Who cares what he said in interviews. Read his book. That's if you are interested in that sort of thing.

Many things are missed, Kim! Like these!

Seriously, it's like trying to tell a Jim Jones follower that he's NOT God! Some people are just plain delusional :D I agree with Erin though...he will get away with it. "If the rubber don't fit, you MUST aquit" ::)



http://www.gagreport.com/images/jacksoncourt.jpg

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/j/Jackson,_Michael/sq-michael-baby-balcony-cnn.jpg




i like the top pic, ;D

i like the top pic, ;D
;) ;D

The trial continues...AND the vote here is currently 55-17 guilty ;)

;) ;D
that top pic had me in stitches,lol

The trial continues...AND the vote here is currently 55-17 guilty ;)

This poll has been in action since about the time the trial started. In that sense it isn't very accurate. Why not check out eonline.com and see the polls that they put up every day asking what your current opinion is. Because people's opinion change with everyday in court.

THE DEFENSE START THEIR CASE TODAY!!! THE NIGHTMARE IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This poll has been in action since about the time the trial started. In that sense it isn't very accurate. Why not check out eonline.com and see the polls that they put up every day asking what your current opinion is. Because people's opinion change with everyday in court.

THE DEFENSE START THEIR CASE TODAY!!! THE NIGHTMARE IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, back to E network again...yeah, I believe in the "Stars" network ::)  AND if he's found not guilty, the nightmare will most certainly continue for all the young boys in the world :\'(

Great news!! :)  The defense filed a motion today to have Michael Jackson aqquited of all charges. Legal experts are saying it's more that likely the judge will grant the motion!!! This trial is OVER!!!

GREAT NEWS! These are now on sale ;)

http://www.syberg.be/zMentalSpace/sSys/photo's/pJ7e/blinders.jpg

i like Michael Jackson music but i cant forgive him for what he has done in the past,
i think people are gust out to get money out of him in caught,
like in the past,

WTF is that ???  Looks like it belongs on "another" board ;)
it boesnt look like fun to me that thing,

WTF is that ???  Looks like it belongs on "another" board ;)
;DThey're Blinders!!http://www.wordwiseweb.com/images/2004index/blinders.jpg

and THESE are for people...namely the defense and all the flit-boy fans  :D ;)

http://nowscape.com/mormon/blinder2.jpg

ya....if this trial was for Mr. Average Joe....his A S S would be rotting in jail as we speak......BUT....



since the trial is all about the "king of pop".....he is exempt from what every other "average" person would have to endure, having done the same crimes.



Totally sick if you ask me



Erin

No kidding....if it were some "average Joe", there's no way in hell the judge would allow umpteen "character witnesses", (which, IMO is a bunch of bullcrap anyway).

Laughed my butt off though that the defense's motion to dismiss was DENIED!!! ;D ;D
Me Too ;D

Hey this McCaulay Culkin character - now there's a poor excuse for a man!

I mean those cherry red pouting lips?? uhh  ???

ya....he was so cute when he was little and in the "Home Alone" movies....but, that look just isn't working for him anymore



Erin :)

He's actually been working in plays in the U.K to great critical aclaim.

He's actually been working in plays in the U.K to great critical aclaim.



He has??  I've never seen or heard  any promotion or advertising of him being here.

Hey this McCaulay Culkin character - now there's a poor excuse for a man!

I mean those cherry red pouting lips?? uhh  ???

Oh, you KNOW you'd like to kiss them cherry red pouting lips all night long, just don't wanna admit it!
;D

I think the prosecution has done such an abominable job, the judge should have thrown the case out.  I don't feel sorry for anybody involved.  They're ALL creeps, including MJ.  Wish they'd all just go away!

I think the prosecution has done such an abominable job, the judge should have thrown the case out.  I don't feel sorry for anybody involved.  They're ALL creeps, including MJ.  Wish they'd all just go away!
Same feeling I had during the OJ circus trial..though ITO was a poor excuse for a judge.

Oh, you KNOW you'd like to kiss them cherry red pouting lips all night long, just don't wanna admit it!
;D

I think the prosecution has done such an abominable job, the judge should have thrown the case out.  I don't feel sorry for anybody involved.  They're ALL creeps, including MJ.  Wish they'd all just go away!

NO Mr Maxwell, looking at those lips I'd rather not,

thanks all the same for the thought..goes away and vomits!!

Bumping this "Hard to find" Original thread/poll ::)

Hey...IF he's aquitted MAYBE they can rule that he can't be around young children much less have them in his bed anymore. THAT would be cool if he couldn't be in a position to be accused of it much less do it! At the very least to have the parents with the kids at all times and NO overnights.

it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out. he's guilty

I wonder what rocket scientists say instead of "This isn't rocket science"?

I also wonder what people who reinvent the wheel say instead of "We aren't trying to reinvent the wheel here!"?

???


it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out. he's guilty


And it isn't a rocket scientist who is giving the verdict... it's a judge.

And it isn't a rocket scientist who is giving the verdict... it's a judge.

er.. isn't it the jury who gives the verdict, and the judge who decides sentence?

er.. isn't it the jury who gives the verdict, and the judge who decides sentence?
Yes, that's right. Thanks for the correction.  ;)

It doesn't take rocket science that no matter what anyone says, the public will continue to believe he is guilty because they want to believe he is guilty. I honestly think the only way people are ever going to realise he is truely innocent is if Michael Jackson goes to prison. It's kind of like Jesus Christ. No-one believed he was the messiah until after they killed him. No-one's going to believe Michael Jackson is innocent until after he's been sent to prison for a crime he didn't commit.
Newsflash...Michael Jackson is NOT Jesus Christ and shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence :P You and all Jackson's cronies will always belive he innocent while others won't. Just like OJ...just because he will probably be aquitted and get away with it....like OJ did...people will differ on thier opinions. What the bottom line here is...Common sense, which is something he does NOT have. If accused many times of molesting young boys...STOP sleeping with them, have the parents present on visits and keep his "Willy" in his pants ::)

So he should be convicted because he has shared his bed with children? Is that what you're saying?
Nope, just that with all the accusations of molesting children over the years, perhaps he would be well served by NOT having them ALONE with him...in his bed, overnight or at any other time....and if not the parents, have some ADULTS around. He may get away with this but knowing he's stupid enough to continue getting himself in the same situations..well, shows most people with common sense that he's a screwball. I wore all my opinions out  on "Robbo" so I'm not going to go over it all again.

BUMP!!! If you vote in the "Duplicate Thread" PLEASE vote here in the "ORIGINAL" thread as well ;)

The verdict is coming soon.....

The next few days will be interesting.

I think he's gonna be found not guilty just because of his celebrity.

I didn't get to hear the court room talk...I feel he'll walk er..(moon) walk away but they should put some kind of stipulation..DON'T LET HIM BE ALONE WITH OTHERS KIDS!!!

Why isn't anyone bringing up WHERE ARE THE GIRLS??? if he likes kids so much...
Wendy in Peter Pan wasn't bad looking...sharing your bed is loving when love is equal..boys AND girls! Nobody would be arguing this if any girls took the stand...maybe even THEY think he's weird..

He might get 20 years in prison.

With 10 charges to decide on will he really not get at least 1??

I'll start the ball rolling now: so when Michael went to prison a cell mate asked him if he would do 'the Moonwalk?'
He said,' sure!' Then the guy called out 'Hey Moonwalk, get in here!' ooooooooohhhh :o




Catch this one..IF Michael is found guilty, should anything be done to HIS parents...?
Some are asking the childs' parent should be dealt with for letting him sleep like that...so?????

Jackson's fate now in the hands of the jurors:

AM - Saturday, 4 June , 2005  08:00:00
Reporter: Mark Simkin
EDMOND ROY: Jurors have retired to consider their verdict in the child abuse trial of American pop star, Michael Jackson. The jury was sent out after rival lawyers finished their closing statements. Michael Jackson denies all 10 charges against him, including giving alcohol to a boy of 13 and abusing him. He could be jailed for 20 years if convicted on all charges.

Our reporter, Mark Simkin, joins us from the courthouse now.

Mark, how did the defence finish its case?

MARK SIMKIN: It finished with a very aggressive and relentless attack, Edmond, an attack on the accuser, the teenage boy who says that Michael Jackson molested him, and an attack on the accuser's family.

Thomas Mesereau, the lead defence lawyer repeated that these people are con artists, actors and liars. And he said that again and again. He said they've perjured themselves, they're cunning and they're smart and they flip flop, they lie, and all they're trying to do is shake Michael Jackson down for money.

And then the very last thing in the case presented by the defence was something of a risky tactic I think. They showed a video of Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson hasn't testified in his own defence, but instead they used a video of him, outtakes from an interview in which Michael Jackson talks about his love of children, about his desire to organise a party for his pet chimp and invite Lassie and other animals. He talked about… he loves innocence and why he likes to invite children to his Neverland property.

And it really was portraying Michael Jackson as someone who might be strange, but perhaps, is not a criminal.

EDMOND ROY: I suppose the prosecution is exactly the opposite?

MARK SIMKIN: Absolutely. The prosecution was… well, similar in one case. They were also very aggressive, but they were arguing that Michael Jackson is not a victim, Michael Jackson is a person who creates victims.

Again, Ron Zonen the Deputy District Attorney was saying to the jurors, you would be outraged if there was a man in your neighbourhood who was taking boys in his bed amid a sea of porn and alcohol.

And then he played a video of his own. And this was very powerful. This was the video… the testimony that had already been seen, or video that had already been shown, but it was replayed. And this was the boy, the accuser's first interview with police.

And given that the whole case of the defence is based around the fact that this boy is making it all up, that he's being coached, that he's an actor, this was very powerful, because it showed just how reluctant, how embarrassed and how honest he seemed and it was a very powerful way to end the prosecution case.

EDMOND ROY: And with all that, what was the atmosphere like in the courthouse then?

MARK SIMKIN: It was very tense in there. There were tears. Some people said they saw Michael Jackson crying, I didn't see that myself. Certainly members of his family were crying. There was real silence after the two cases rested. People just didn't speak, it was real tension.

Michael Jackson's spokeswoman came out and spoke to the media afterwards to say what Mr Jackson was feeling. This is what Ramone Baines had to say.

RAMONE BAINES: He's relieved that it's over. He has a great confidence in the justice system and he is hoping and believing that the jury is going to acquit him of these charges.

He feels that Tom Mesereau and his defence team has done an excellent job, an excellent job throughout this entire trial.

EDMOND ROY: That was Ramone Baines, spokesperson for Michael Jackson.

Mark Simkin, when is the verdict expected?

MARK SIMKIN: A very good question, Edmond. The jury, as you said in your introduction, is now deliberating. They will only deliberate for a short time today. They're not expected to do any deliberating over the weekend, which means they will obviously reflect on it themselves over the weekend and then get together again on Monday.

So the expectation is we'll probably see a verdict sometime next week. Michael Jackson has returned to his Neverland Ranch where he's surrounded by his family, his famous sisters, Janet, Latoya and other members of the family, and he's waiting there, waiting for the verdict, waiting for the decision on his fate.

EDMOND ROY: Mark Simkin, thank you. Mark Simkin there in Santa Maria. 

THE WORLD KNOWS...BUT WHY DON'T THE PSYCHICS WHO ARE SAYING THEY ARE REAL STEP UP AND MAKE  A PREDICTION ON THIS ONE,,,too frivalou :Ps?....

1). The mother's accuser is NOT the most credible person, but her son, the child/victim did testify that Michael Jackson did subject him to some sort of sexual acts which WAS independently supported by the maid and security peson who witnessed MJ and victim showering together.  Come on, plain as day, beyond reasonable doubt.  You have someone saying somebody did something wrong and you have two independent witnesses to say "yes" that somebody actual did that.  Good enough for me! 

2).  Circumstantial evidence- Classic pedophile behaviors:  MJ had a troubled childhood (so what) and MJ was physically abused by his father.  I'm NOT a psychiatrist, but in most cases, this abuse that MJ endured detached MJ from the father figure which made MJ more feminine which he connected to becoming closer to boys/men.  MJ mind is a sick twisted disassociated mess!  MJ is not living his childhood through these boys, but rather punishing them for what he didn't have.  In addition, to having a playground or other material to lure kids (boys), giving children alcohol to change their perception to be more susceptable to sexual acts, and presenting boys with pornographic material (sexual arousal) while sleeping in the same bed (w/ alarmed motion detector in the hallway to give MJ notice when someone is approaching his bedroom).  All this makes me ask the question...what is a 47 year old man without a girlfriend/wife who likes to associate with only certain aged and similar looking BOYS!  The 1993 allegations where MJ payed someone $20 million plus dollars as a settlement!  Let me tell ya, if I didn't have any culpability or negligence in the matter, I certainly wouldn't give anyone a dime!!!

3).  With the overwhelming evidence, I predict MJ to be found GUILTY, convicted of sexual and/or indecent assault.  MJ will do some time in prison.... 8 years. 

1). The mother's accuser is NOT the most credible person, but her son, the child/victim did testify that Michael Jackson did subject him to some sort of sexual acts which WAS independently supported by the maid and security peson who witnessed MJ and victim showering together. Come on, plain as day, beyond reasonable doubt. You have someone saying somebody did something wrong and you have two independent witnesses to say "yes" that somebody actual did that. Good enough for me!

2). Circumstantial evidence- Classic pedophile behaviors: MJ had a troubled childhood (so what) and MJ was physically abused by his father. I'm NOT a psychiatrist, but in most cases, this abuse that MJ endured detached MJ from the father figure which made MJ more feminine which he connected to becoming closer to boys/men. MJ mind is a sick twisted disassociated mess! MJ is not living his childhood through these boys, but rather punishing them for what he didn't have. In addition, to having a playground or other material to lure kids (boys), giving children alcohol to change their perception to be more susceptable to sexual acts, and presenting boys with pornographic material (sexual arousal) while sleeping in the same bed (w/ alarmed motion detector in the hallway to give MJ notice when someone is approaching his bedroom). All this makes me ask the question...what is a 47 year old man without a girlfriend/wife who likes to associate with only certain aged and similar looking BOYS! The 1993 allegations where MJ payed someone $20 million plus dollars as a settlement! Let me tell ya, if I didn't have any culpability or negligence in the matter, I certainly wouldn't give anyone a dime!!!

3). With the overwhelming evidence, I predict MJ to be found GUILTY, convicted of sexual and/or indecent assault. MJ will do some time in prison.... 8 years.
I appreciate an agree with most of your points. Unfortunately he will probably get off and then we'll all have to listen to his blinded fans saying "I told you so" ::) I will always think of him as a molester and even if he gets away with this most people will know he has no common sense by continually putting himself into such precarious positions. Also, if by some miracle he IS found guilty I don't think he'd last very long in prison before someone killed him. Convicts don't like child molesters either >:(

Now after this settles WHY DON'T WE GO AFTER THE RAPISTS AND CRIMINALS OUT THERE ON THE RUN OR TRYING TO OUTWIT THE LAW??

They should be the ones tied up in courts to get justice!

Now after this settles WHY DON'T WE GO AFTER THE RAPISTS AND CRIMINALS OUT THERE ON THE RUN OR TRYING TO OUTWIT THE LAW??

They should be the ones tied up in courts to get justice!
I think molesting children IS rape :-\\

I think if mj is found innocent I can live with it, but how many will go @#***!&*% if he's found guilty?

I think if mj is found innocent I can live with it, but how many will go @#***!&*% if he's found guilty?
Well, I was outraged when those cops were found not guilty in the first trial of the Rodney King debacle...but I had no urge whatsoever to loot a storee or beat people, and when oj got away with murder I felt the same. It's the same for me with this case except IF he gets off, the little creep had better stop his sick habits >:(

Plus how can he keep BUYING things if he is so called reportedly broke...don't they do a finance check to make sure he can pay??

He must not be broke if everyone just let's him take whatever he is 'Buying'...

There must be money somewhere in his accounts... ???

Plus how can he keep BUYING things if he is so called reportedly broke...don't they do a finance check to make sure he can pay??

He must not be broke if everyone just let's him take whatever he is 'Buying'...

There must be money somewhere in his accounts... ???
Like I've said...He's only "Morally" bankrupt ::)

My mom was watching court TV and a guy was telling the viewers what items MJ wouldn't be able to have in his jail cell... No make-up, the reason being he could alter his appearance and escape, I can imagine the guards arriving at his cell in the morning and asking the "black" guy in his cell where is MJ?  :D

SANTA MARIA, California — Michael Jackson, recovering at Neverland Ranch from his back injury, is "anxiously awaiting" the verdict from his child-molestation trial, his spiritual advisor Jesse Jackson told reporters gathered at the Santa





Maria courthouse on Tuesday. The reverend has been visiting and praying with the singer during the wait, and described the singer's state of mind.

Jesse Jackson also spoke with reporters on Monday, and has been the only public figure to make such demonstrations of support during deliberations. When asked about Jackson's other friends and supporters — such as Elizabeth Taylor and Oprah Winfrey — the reverend said simply, "You'll have to ask them."

The reverend, who is not staying at Neverland but at a local hotel, said Michael is hurt by insinuations that he's faking his back injury or using his physical pain as a ploy for sympathy during deliberations. He said that the singer's pain is quite "severe" (see "Michael Jackson Alleges Conspiracy, Explains Back Pain").

"He is not faking it," Jesse Jackson said. "He's grimacing in pain, but he's fighting back."

He said that the singer's back spasms had gotten worse with the stress of the trial, and that he very much "realizes the gravity of the situation and the implications."

Still, Michael is not completely bedridden, he said, and is walking about during the day. And he hasn't become "paralyzed by fear" at the prospect of prison time. He had to choose between fear and hope, the reverend said, and Michael has chosen hope, remaining "amazingly optimistic." The singer has confidence in his lawyers, due process, and his well of public support, the reverend said, reminding supporters at the same time, "Michael must not be made to feel alone or abandoned."

Michael had felt betrayed during the trial, the reverend said, when some of the people he trusted and was the most generous to had testified against him, though he felt they "withered" under cross examination. Michael has no bitterness or anger now, the reverend said, only confidence and hope as he waits the word of the jury.

Asked if Michael has made any plans for the care of his children if he is convicted, Jesse Jackson replied, "His plans are for acquittal."

MTV News will have live coverage from Santa Maria on-air, online and in Overdrive when a verdict is handed down.

If he is headed to prison,he will be in jail till he's 65.I wonder what he'll look like? ;D :o

If he is headed to prison,he will be in jail till he's 65.I wonder what he'll look like? ;D :o
IF he goes to prison...which I unfortunately predict he won't....he wouldn't LIVE more than a week :D

IF he goes to prison...which I unfortunately predict he won't....he wouldn't LIVE more than a week :D



I hope he does.

I hope he does.
What...gets away with it or dies after a week ???

What...gets away with it or dies after a week ???


most likely he'll get away with it.

most likely he'll get away with it.
Indeed he will be acquitted of the serious charges, but for the minor offences like supplying alcholic drinks to young children he will receive some form of punishment.

Indeed he will be acquitted of the serious charges, but for the minor offences like supplying alcholic drinks to young children he will receive some form of punishment.
I don't think he'll serve anytime and he'll probably get a slap on the wrist....and enjoy it ::)

My latest feelings are they will charge him with the more minor(no pun intended), violations to avoid prison.

As they say there are 10 things to go over something might stick at this point...

:-\\ :-\\ :-\\ :-\\

And for all the Jesse Jacksonites who are trying to make it sound like America is trying to make Michael the next OJ..why didn't they complain when Kobe Bryant went to court and claim 'you're just looking to charge a black guy since OJ didn't get it'??

They had to wait over 10 years!!

Another question for MJ doubters ..maybe a test of your stance....

Would YOU let your kids sleep with MJ?

Would YOU let 12-13 yr. olds look at your porn collection?

Would YOU give pre-teens liquor/Jesus Juice?

Well, testimony is that MJ did!

GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!    What else would you need to convict? ???

Guess not. He's been acquitted from all ten charges. So much for all the guilt-talk. Frankly, I'm happy for him. I found way too many holes in the prosecution's witnesses, and I'm not the type to identify with the perpetrator. I frankly believe pedophiles should be treated with thumbscrews and impalement. However, each case is unique and I followed the details of the trial with as open and objective mind as possible. I think the judgement was fair considering the evidence. Do I think it's possible he molested a kid? Sure...anything's possible in this god-forsaken world. But he seems to be too much of a kid to act like an adult that *wants* kids in that way. I don't know for sure--no one does but Michael himself.

Uh,..yeah, that was MY alibi, uh....reasoning :o

Just because a prosecution totally blew the case and he was found not guilty doesn't neccessary mean he is. IF he doesn't seriously change his ways he will eventually get caught with his hand....well, whatever ::)

Guess not. He's been acquitted from all ten charges. So much for all the guilt-talk. Frankly, I'm happy for him. I found way too many holes in the prosecution's witnesses, and I'm not the type to identify with the perpetrator. I frankly believe pedophiles should be treated with thumbscrews and impalement. However, each case is unique and I followed the details of the trial with as open and objective mind as possible. I think the judgement was fair considering the evidence. Do I think it's possible he molested a kid? Sure...anything's possible in this god-forsaken world. But he seems to be too much of a kid to act like an adult that *wants* kids in that way. I don't know for sure--no one does but Michael himself.


exactly.  I wouldn't let my kids stay there because he's weird, but I don't have any reason to think he's a child molester.  Gee -- a grown man who keeps alcohol and porn in the house with kids around.  Must be a child molester.  duh.

As they said after the mixed OJ verdict...he was found not guilty but that doesn't mean he's INNOCENT! ::)

Justice was done. The man's innocent. He always was.

Yes, there is no way someone that famous can be around so many kids for so many years and be a pedophile and there isn't at least 10 legitimate credible believable stories from people.  It doesn't make sense that the only witnesses or people who make claims are sleazy opportunist scumbags and ex-employees with a grudge.  Come on.  Yes, he used bad judgment and acted irresponsibly around kids, letting them sleep in his bed.  Probably, he had porn magazines (like a lot of guys), and maybe drinks around kids (like a lot of parents), and maybe talks to them about sex.  If he did, it was very, very inappropriate.  But that is not child molestation.

ENOUGH ALREADY

who the fudge cares one way or the other, if he did it- then the system sucks, if he didn't do it-the system works.

As they said after the mixed OJ verdict...he was found not guilty but that doesn't mean he's INNOCENT! ::)
THAT is what I'm talkin' about ;)


Justice was done. The man's innocent. He always was.
Yeah right, he always was....I suppose that's why a few jurors said they thought he was definately guilty of molesting other children in the past...just not this time ;)

Another question for MJ doubters ..maybe a test of your stance....

Would YOU let your kids sleep with MJ?

Would YOU let 12-13 yr. olds look at your porn collection?

Would YOU give pre-teens liquor/Jesus Juice?

Well, testimony is that MJ did!

GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!    What else would you need to convict? ???
Testimony by Anna Ayala's distant relatives is not admissable,you see ;)

This was what Michael said I thought:
on tv:what's wrong with sharing your bed with...
pointed out in court:      the books were  artistic books
Michael would hide his alcohol by putting it in soda cans

This came out, was it in the court room, I didn't watch the whole reenactment..would you let YOUR relatives SLeep with him???

He won his case: that's good
He celebrated his victory by going to Disneyland  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

This was what Michael said I thought:
on tv:what's wrong with sharing your bed with...
pointed out in court:      the books were  artistic books
Michael would hide his alcohol by putting it in soda cans

This came out, was it in the court room, I didn't watch the whole reenactment..would you let YOUR relatives SLeep with him???

He won his case: that's good
He celebrated his victory by going to Disneyland  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
He's be in prison right now if the case had been for other kids....many of the jurors said they think he has molested before.

WRONG!!
One juror said it's possible Michael Jackson molested children in the past. Geez, get your facts rioght. I have the actual vido on my computer, I know what the guy said.
Btw, Michael Jackson did not go to Disneyland, there has been no plans for any victory parties. Michael Jackson is resting at Neverland. He is emotionally and physically destroyed. His weight dropped to under 100 pounds. He needs to rest and eat. The maybe he'll make music again. But there's definately not going to be any form of celebration. Why celebrate the darkest four months of your life?

Might I also add that the judge told jurors they could convict MJ if they felt the past acts were credible enough. If they thought he had molested before, they could assume he molested this time. They found him not guilty. Which means he didn't molest this kid, and he never had molested any kid before.
One juror said maybe, the rest were 100% certain he has never touched a child!

DUDE!! Pop a F*cking Midol and enjoy your boys win!! IF he did molest kids before he WILL pay...If not....that's alrighty then :D

DUDE!! Pop a F*cking Midol and enjoy your boys win!! IF he did molest kids before he WILL pay...If not....that's alrighty then :D

First off, I don't like the racist implications in your message.
Secondly, what's to enjoy. That there are greedy people out there that will go to extreme measures to get money, even if that means putting an innocent person. This trial is not something to celebrate. This trial hurt alot of people. I would tell you what I thought of the people involved in the malicious prosecution of Michael Jackson, but I am a christian. 

First off, I don't like the racist implications in your message.
Secondly, what's to enjoy. That there are greedy people out there that will go to extreme measures to get money, even if that means putting an innocent person. This trial is not something to celebrate. This trial hurt alot of people. I would tell you what I thought of the people involved in the malicious prosecution of Michael Jackson, but I am a christian. 
First off...racist? Holy OJ...which, BTW, could be very comparable to this case!  ANYWAY, for all his fans that say he's so powerful and has a lot of money...I don't give a crap. He can't and won't take anything with him when he dies. The bottom line....again...so listen close and absorb it this time....IF he has NEVER molested a child that's great...if he HAS I hope someday he will get punished for it. I agree this case was a crock though and the kid was probably never molested. As for past molestations? YOU have NO idea and neither do I. As for the racial crap...um, NO, it ain't gonna fly. Molestation has nothing to do with race, sorry

First off, I don't like the racist implications in your message.

Have to agree with RnRf, here: there were no racist implications, and to throw the 'r' word around doesn't help.

Besides, we all know MJ only got off 'cause he's white ;)

Has he ever thought of painting his skin in "blackface"? ;D

Did anyone watch Larry King Live with 8 of the jurors?
Larry asked them if they thought Michael ever molested children in his life. Their answer - ABSOLUTELY NOT!
So SUCK ON THAT!!!!

I'd also like to add that once again the media was wrong. They said all jurors thought he was guilty of something but there was no proof. Wrong again pundits, only 2 jurors believe he may of molested kids in the past, the rest - absolutely not!!

What else were the media wrong about? Hmm, let's see...

They were wrong about police finding child porn in Michael Jackson's bedroom
They were wrong about police finding the DNA of 3 different boys (no DNA evidence was found)
They were wrong about Michael Jackson planning a victory party.
They were wrong about one juror being invited to that party.
They were wrong about Michael wanting to be in Live 8.
Most of all, they were wrong about Michael. He is not a child molester, the law says so and 12 average people say so. The man is innocent and he always was.

Did anyone watch Larry King Live with 8 of the jurors?
Larry asked them if they thought Michael ever molested children in his life. Their answer - ABSOLUTELY NOT!
So SUCK ON THAT!!!!Why don't you try being a "Good" winner? Your boy is free to molest...you won! As dead as his career is to me...so is this topic, buh-bye ;)

This is the last time I ask you. Stop using that word, 'boy'. It implies racism and it implies pedophilia and I don't need to explain why it implies these two things. You know perfectly well why and you use that word on purpose.

He is not free to molest, what garbage are you talking about? In case you didn't realise, Michael Jackson was charged of child molestation, he was found not guilty which means he did not molest the child. Michael Jackson is not a child molester, end of story.

His career is not dead. In case you haven't noticed, his record sales have increased dramatically. His #1's and Thriller albums have re-entered the Billboard charts numerous times since his vindication. He's sold an extra million records since his vindication. He has now sold 60 million records in the US. I know 60 million is no match for the 500 million your beloved Beatles have sold, but it's still a hell of alot better than most artists have sold. Michael Jackson is the best selling black artist in the US. He is the only black artist in the top 10 of all-time. Also keep in mind that Motown was not registered with RIAA, so all the solo records he sold under the Motown label aren't countered towards his grand total of 60 million.

So his career is not dead, he is still selling millions and albums he made 20 years ago are still re-entering the Billboard chart. Epic are soon releasing an Essential Michael Jackson CD in July which could be a high seller. Then again it could not because God knows how many MJ greatest hits collections Epic have released. Anyone interested in Michael Jackson's music probably allready has a good collection of his hits on CD. But I have no doubt his vindication will boost the sales of Essential MJ. His new album is due anytime within the next 1-2 years. I'm sure he'll use his vindication as a promotional tool for the album. But an album is like a recipe and you need to get all the ingredients right. With the right tunes, the right image, and the right promotion, Michael Jackson's new album could easily sell over the 20 million mark. A mark he has failed to reach since HIStory in 1995.

Michael Jackson is innocent and his career has never been stronger. He is in a position now where anyone would offer him any amount of money to sign with them. People want him with their label. People want him for their shows. His career is at the top of it's game.

You may say I'm not a good winner. But you are a bad loser.   

Sounds like you're weeding through the background of this prformer BUT call it as it is Michael (and anyone)who is found NOT GUILTY in court does NOT mean tthey are INNOCENT.

This goes for OJ and all the other names unknown who've had the money or wits to get the NOT GUILTY vote.

Look at the outstanding facts NOT brought up in the courtroom that has others emotional about MJ, he SLEEPS/SLEPT with kids and
whether they testified or not, claims were out there from people involved who said he would put alcohol in Coke cans...
Did you see the Emmanuel Lewis photos of a teen boy(EL) SUCKING ON A BABY BOTTLE...what's that?!!

Something smells fishy. ??? 

This is the last time I ask you. Stop using that word, 'boy'. It implies racism and it implies pedophilia and I don't need to explain why it implies these two things. You know perfectly well why and you use that word on purpose.


You may say I'm not a good winner. But you are a bad loser. 
Knock off the racism crap. Sorry to disappoint you but UI was NOT using it as a racist term. Actually it's used in boxing a lot..."You're boy looks strong"..and NO it;'s not only about colored boxers either. As for it implying pedophilia...so be it. I have a right to my opinion aboutr him just like you do...we just disagree is all. I'm a bad loser because, like the OJ circus, I hate when criminals are set free. I will stop being a bad loser but can YOU stop being a bad winner and drop this topic. I just made my last post. Nice talkin' to you again...Robbo ;)

I still say he's guilty. If we're lucky, he'll drop dead of guilt or excessive plastic surgery or something.

i thought he was guilty

These two jurors who are now saying he is guilty prove that Michael Jackson is innocent. The defense's case was the the family was doing for money, because if they win a criminal trial the ultimately win a civil lawsuit. The family accusing Michael Jackson of molesting their son love being on television and in newspapers. The fame, or infame they get from saying Michael Jackson molested their son was intoxicating and these two jurors who have just come out, also obviously find the cameras intoxicating. These jurors were probably the most outspoken, when the verdict first came out, that they made the right decision and they felt very strongly that Michael Jackson was not guilty. They were also the two who said he may have molested boys in the past, but not this time. Every other juror believes 100% innocent of 1993 and 2003. These two jurors are now saying they think he is guilty because they know it will get them TV interveiws, book deals and in the end, money, money, money. This is what Michael Jackson and his lawyers said all along and it has just been proven big time by these two whacko's.
I hope Michael stays away from this. I hope he stays away until all this post-trial mayhem is long forgotten. Then think about getting his career going again. I am glad Michael is in Bahrain because I bet he is treated alot better there than he is in America. He's given billions of dollars to sick and dying people. He has blessed millions with his music. He has been a positive role model for youth for years. And this is how they treat him. Utterly, pathetic!
Michael, do what you want man. Stay in Bahrain and live it up. Don't give in to these morons. They want an interview, but don't let the fudgeer's get it. Just let these 2 whacky juror's do what they want, and sit back in Bahrain knowing they are proving what you've said all along. People will do anything for money.

Robbo?

I believe his is still not guilty.

About two months ago, I've heard the news on the radio once, and it said Michael Jackson was not guilty, he was innocent just like the album by one of my all-time favorites Billy Joel!  That was hot stuff!  ;D

why are we all still talking about this....he was found innocent, some may think he was guilty...but we are never going to agree on that, nor will it make the outcome any different...so, let's agree to disagree....there are a lot more problems to worry about then this matter.



Erin :)

why are we all still talking about this....he was found innocent, some may think he was guilty...but we are never going to agree on that, nor will it make the outcome any different...so, let's agree to disagree....there are a lot more problems to worry about then this matter.



Erin :)


I'm sorry, but an African American middle-aged male being robbed of his rights and labelled as a child molester when a court of law found him innocent, is an issue of major concern.
Sure there a bombing going on in the world, there a people dying in Iraq, but we as people can do nothing about that. It's up to the world leaders to get off their arses and no something about it. We can do something about the treatment of Michael Jackson. The man was found innocent for christ's sake show some mercy. If the public does not respond to the media constantly calling him a child molester, they will stop. They say "Whacko Jacko" on TV, hear it said in the mall one day and they know they have done a good job. If instead of hearing "Whacko Jacko" they heard simply, "Michael Jackson", they would be out of a job. A journo's job is to brainwash the public and they have done one hell of a good job. There was no evidence, there was no case. He was found not guilty but still the public say he is guilty. WTF?

why are we all still talking about this....he was found innocent, some may think he was guilty...but we are never going to agree on that, nor will it make the outcome any different...so, let's agree to disagree....there are a lot more problems to worry about then this matter.



Erin :)
Exactly, Erin! But you see, it's because they refuse to be good winners. tThey want ALL of us to believe what they believe. But already stating how I feel, I refuse to reply anymore to ANY of "Screwball Nation", I wish they'd all go and have a huge slumber party and leave all of the non believers alone. I couldn't agree more with what you said though ;)

oh good grief, not this again ::)

oh good grief, not this again ::)
Yep, I'm afraid that until we all bow down and worship the King Of Molestation and join his fans in "Screwball Nation"...they just won't leave it alone!! ::)

But don't you understand? I don't want you to believe anything. I want you to stop believing what the media tells you to believe. We can't stop the Iraq war, but we can stop the mistreatment of Michael Jackson.
I didn't start this again. The 2 whacko jurors did when they said, "oops, changed my mind. He's guilty." It proves what Michael Jackson has said all along and if you can't see that then you are living in denial.

But don't you understand? I don't want you to believe anything. I want you to stop believing what the media tells you to believe. We can't stop the Iraq war, but we can stop the mistreatment of Michael Jackson.
I didn't start this again. The 2 whacko jurors did when they said, "oops, changed my mind. He's guilty." It proves what Michael Jackson has said all along and if you can't see that then you are living in denial.




I just don't understand what the big fixation on Michael Jackson is all about....ok, so you are a fan of his, you like his music, you think he is a cool guy...that's fine. I just don't understand why you are fighting tooth and nail for this guy? What? Did he do you some big favor? Is he a long lost relative? I mean, it's not like anything you are saying in his favor will change the course of your life or anything.  I can understand thinking that someone is innocent and wanting to defend them...but it seems like (by some of your comments) that you are trying to clear the name of someone that you hold dear to you (a mother, father, spouse, etc), rather than a pop star.  That's what I don't really understand. I could see your passion about this if it were regarding someone who you were directly connected to, but to get all bent out of shape over a person that you have never met, nor have a relationship with...it just seems like a waste of time to me.  What I was trying to say in my last post is that it's OVER now...he went to trial, he was found not guilty, HOWEVER, there will always be people who think he got off easily and that he truly was guilty.  He may or may not be, but here's the thing.....when you are a figure in the public eye, you have to know that whatever the matter is, you are always going to be in the public eye...with people for you and against you....that's the price "famous" people have to pay for being public icons. I am not trying to argue whether he was innocent or guilty...because truly...I don't care either way, the outcome of his trial has nothing to do with my life path....all I am saying is that you can't convert every single person to "your side" or "your beliefs" on the matter....and that goes for both sides of the spectrum (being for or against him).


Erin :)

It's very hard to understand why Michael Jackson fans are so passionate. But when someone says, "Michael Jackson is a child molester", "Michael Jackson is a whacko", "I wish Michael Jackson was dead", I feel like they are calling me a child molester, a whacko or they wish I was dead. When someone says something bad about Michael Jackson I feel my heart sink and I feel like throwing up. I have to, I must defend Michael Jackson. It absolutely kills me that he was found not guilty, but everyone still says he is a child molester. What the hell is wrong with humanity? I can't believe that people can sit back and call Michael Jackson whacko, when they are the one's lying about him and trying so desperately to destroy his life. To me that seems pretty whacko. You say you can't understand why I try so hard to defend Michael Jackson. Well I wonder all the time why people try so hard to destroy Michael Jackson.

It's very hard to understand why Michael Jackson fans are so passionate. But when someone says, "Michael Jackson is a child molester", "Michael Jackson is a whacko", "I wish Michael Jackson was dead", I feel like they are calling me a child molester, a whacko or they wish I was dead. When someone says something bad about Michael Jackson I feel my heart sink and I feel like throwing up. I have to, I must defend Michael Jackson. It absolutely kills me that he was found not guilty, but everyone still says he is a child molester. What the hell is wrong with humanity? I can't believe that people can sit back and call Michael Jackson whacko, when they are the one's lying about him and trying so desperately to destroy his life. To me that seems pretty whacko. You say you can't understand why I try so hard to defend Michael Jackson. Well I wonder all the time why people try so hard to destroy Michael Jackson.


Whine, whine, whine. Don't you have a frickin' life?

Take a look at yourself lady. You are so insecure about yourself that you create a cartoon face that is suppose to resemble yourself and use it as your avatar. You are too ashamed of yourself to put a real photo of yourself as your avatar. You may say you do it for fun or whatever, but on a subconcious level you are hiding yourself from the world. Yahoo! and other companies designed these avatar making programs because real people are too ugly to use their own faces as avatars so they have to make a cartoon version of themselves. By doing this you are destroying your real self. This cartoon face has become you.

Take a look at yourself lady. You are so insecure about yourself that you create a cartoon face that is suppose to resemble yourself and use it as your avatar. You are too ashamed of yourself to put a real photo of yourself as your avatar. You may say you do it for fun or whatever, but on a subconcious level you are hiding yourself from the world. Yahoo! and other companies designed these avatar making programs because real people are too ugly to use their own faces as avatars so they have to make a cartoon version of themselves. By doing this you are destroying your real self. This cartoon face has become you.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You so funnee!


Oh, and by the way I was being sarcastic.

Take a look at yourself lady. You are so insecure about yourself that you create a cartoon face that is suppose to resemble yourself and use it as your avatar. You are too ashamed of yourself to put a real photo of yourself as your avatar. You may say you do it for fun or whatever, but on a subconcious level you are hiding yourself from the world. Yahoo! and other companies designed these avatar making programs because real people are too ugly to use their own faces as avatars so they have to make a cartoon version of themselves. By doing this you are destroying your real self. This cartoon face has become you.




ya know, you are taking this way too far. It's one thing to disagree with someone over whether Michael Jackson is guilty or not, but when it comes to personal attacks against someone....that's when it is just wrong!  Just because someone has a cartoon avatar of themselves does not mean that they are insecure or think badly of themselves. I do not know Jessica personally, but from reading her posts, etc..I would say that she is far from being insecure...she seems like a very strong-willed, assertive woman.
I will never understand (and I am not sure if I even want to) how someone can be so obsessed with Michael Jackson, or any celebrity for that matter.  How can you think that without a shadow of a doubt that he was 100% innocent?  Were you there during the time of his accusations?  You act like you are physically connected to the man, like you feed off of each other or something...that is just really creepy.
Think what you want regarding the matter, voice your opinion concerning the Michael Jackson controversy....but don't go making out of place, rude comments to members of the board.


Erin :)

Take a look at yourself lady. You are so insecure about yourself that you create a cartoon face that is suppose to resemble yourself and use it as your avatar. You are too ashamed of yourself to put a real photo of yourself as your avatar. You may say you do it for fun or whatever, but on a subconcious level you are hiding yourself from the world. Yahoo! and other companies designed these avatar making programs because real people are too ugly to use their own faces as avatars so they have to make a cartoon version of themselves. By doing this you are destroying your real self. This cartoon face has become you.
Personally attacking someone because they disagree with you're views on your God, you have NO class in doing so ::)  Seek some help.....Robbo....or just go sleep in MJ's bed, you know you want to, but leave the rest of us who do NOT agree with your opinion of that freak, alone ;)

He was, crazymom...he used to be known as 'Robbo'...

Personally, I think it's MJ himself, but that's just me!

He was, crazymom...he used to be known as 'Robbo'...

Personally, I think it's MJ himself, but that's just me!



gosh, that's what it seems like, huh? The way he talks...it's either MJ...or maybe MJ's relative!




Erin :)

He was, crazymom...he used to be known as 'Robbo'...

Personally, I think it's MJ himself, but that's just me!
No he's not quite mad enough...................

Take a look at yourself lady. You are so insecure about yourself that you create a cartoon face that is suppose to resemble yourself and use it as your avatar. You are too ashamed of yourself to put a real photo of yourself as your avatar. You may say you do it for fun or whatever, but on a subconcious level you are hiding yourself from the world. Yahoo! and other companies designed these avatar making programs because real people are too ugly to use their own faces as avatars so they have to make a cartoon version of themselves. By doing this you are destroying your real self. This cartoon face has become you.


Maybe if you'd stop getting so hot and bothered over Michelle Michael Jackson and take a look elsewhere on the board, you'd see that several pictures are posted of me. And stop trying to be all deep and cr*p. It doesn't fly when you defend a scumbucket like Jackson.

Here's a picture for you, courtesy of an awesome website:

http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a270/a270.gif

I'm so going to hell for that. I guess I'll see Michael there!

P.S. Thanks to Erin, Mark, GRS, and Crazymom for getting all up on this guy. ;)

Hey, you know me....I'll argue with ANYONE ;D ;D
Oh no, not You, Kim ;D ;)

Maybe if you'd stop getting so hot and bothered over Michelle Michael Jackson and take a look elsewhere on the board, you'd see that several pictures are posted of me. And stop trying to be all deep and cr*p. It doesn't fly when you defend a scumbucket like Jackson.

Here's a picture for you, courtesy of an awesome website:

http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a270/a270.gif

I'm so going to hell for that. I guess I'll see Michael there!

P.S. Thanks to Erin, Mark, GRS, and Crazymom for getting all up on this guy. ;)
You won't be joining Michelle/Michael "Ladies Man" in hell, Jess. He's got all the reservations for himself and his  "Screwball Nation" :D Anyway, ANYTHING for you, anytime ;)

ya know, you are taking this way too far. It's one thing to disagree with someone over whether Michael Jackson is guilty or not, but when it comes to personal attacks against someone....that's when it is just wrong!
Whine, whine, whine. Don't you have a frickin' life?
 
Just because someone has a cartoon avatar of themselves does not mean that they are insecure or think badly of themselves. I do not know Jessica personally, but from reading her posts, etc..I would say that she is far from being insecure...she seems like a very strong-willed, assertive woman.
I was simply making a point about these avatar things that Yahoo! and other companies have created.
I will never understand (and I am not sure if I even want to) how someone can be so obsessed with Michael Jackson, or any celebrity for that matter.  How can you think that without a shadow of a doubt that he was 100% innocent?  Were you there during the time of his accusations?  You act like you are physically connected to the man, like you feed off of each other or something...that is just really creepy.
That's right. No-one will understand. That's why you'll keep throwing around words like "creepy". How dare you say I take things to far, I resort to personal attacks. You just called my actions creepy. The majority of people on this board have said nasty things about Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson is a person, so any smart ass comments made about him are personal attacks.
Think what you want regarding the matter, voice your opinion concerning the Michael Jackson controversy....but don't go making out of place, rude comments to members of the board.
Erin :)
Think what you want regarding the matter, voice your opinion concerning the Michael Jackson controversy....but don't go making out of place, rude comments about Michael Jackson or his fans.

I laugh at the effect the media has had on your minds. They've turned you into hypocrits. It's OK for you all to say I am a screwball, I am going to hell - Michael Jackson is a screwball, Michael Jackson is going to hell. But if I make a simple statement about the Yahoo! avatars and how they rob people of them trueselves, I am the bad guy. It doesn't make sense.
What has Michael Jackson ever done to you that he deserves such harsh insults? He fought through a whole trial just to prove to you lot that he is innocent. But that's not good enough for you. It's hard enough for him to have to deal with the media saying insulting things about him and spreading lies. The public believing what the media tells them just makes it worse. Do you know how to show any mercy to the poor guy?

Animals strike from malice because they want to live. It's the same for those who critisize. They desire our blood, not our pain. So have mercy for I've been bleeding a long time now. - Michael Jackson

  I was simply making a point about these avatar things that Yahoo! and other companies have created.That's right. No-one will understand. That's why you'll keep throwing around words like "creepy". How dare you say I take things to far, I resort to personal attacks. You just called my actions creepy. The majority of people on this board have said nasty things about Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson is a person, so any smart butt comments made about him are personal attacks. Think what you want regarding the matter, voice your opinion concerning the Michael Jackson controversy....but don't go making out of place, rude comments about Michael Jackson or his fans.


Listen, your God WON! He's FREE! to do "Whatever" he wants....so quit coming back and making us all more sick about it. There are a LOT of people here who just want him....and you to "Go Away"....bye, Robbo ;)

OK. Yes, you're right. It's time for me to leave. It seems I came to this board to talk, but I was disgusted by people's misrepresentations and disrespect for Michael Jackson. You don't even understand who Michael Jackson is, or what he stands for. All you know is what the media tells you. All you know is lies. You can't base your opinions on someone, from lies. It's ridiculous. I came to this board and didn't agree that Michael Jackson was a child molester like the rest of you. So straight away I wasn't welcome. All the time I put up with RocknRollFan's hurtful and degrading PM's. I put up with people saying they want me to go to hell, calling me a screwball. I put up with it and stuck around because I hated seeing Michael Jackson treated like dirt. I had to defend him. I feel sorry for you all. You have been manipulated by the media. You are missing out on the magic that is Michael Jackson, while the fans are soaking it up. If you knew how happy Michael Jackson makes us all. Just a picture of him sends out hearts a flutter. It you understood how we felt about him, you'd understand why we all defend him so passionately. Michael Jackson is my passion. When I feel cold and alone I turn to Michael Jackson. He makes a dark day bright. He sows a broken heart together. His music, his voice, his beautiful smile, his persona makes me so happy, even when I'm feeling really down. He brightens up my days. Not even you lot can make me feel upset or angry when I've got Michael Jackson by my side.
So I will make this board a better place and leave. But just remember, you don't have to believe what the media tell you. You don't have to treat Michael Jackson like sheesh. It you find it in your hearts, you can show him some mercy. But I highly doubt, with dominating personalities like RNRF on the board that you will ever step out of your comfort zone and say, "Hey, let's leave the poor guy alone. He's had it rough". Ah well.

wow....i feel really sorry for someone that would use this comment regarding a celebrity.....



"If you knew how happy Michael Jackson makes us all. Just a picture of him sends out hearts a flutter".


Here's the thing....you keep saying, "how do you know he did all of this"....."quit listening to the media"....etc....but it works in reverse as well....how do YOU know that he is innocent?  Do you know Michael Jackson personally?  Do you stay in his home and sleep in his bed?  You can't say that you know 100% that he is innocent, can you?  It's all a matter of opinion (on both sides)...you KNOW in your heart that he is innocent....and others KNOW in their hearts that he is guilty.  Furthermore, I never once BASHED Michael Jackson in my replies, nor did I cast your soul to hell....the only comment that I made was that it seemed really creepy of the extent that you take it when it concerns your love and passions for Michael Jackson....that was it.  So please do not say that I was bashing you or your hero, ok?
As for your comments regarding the boards, etc....the people here are awesome, open-minded, and very friendly....they just differ in opinion from you.



Erin

You are missing out on the magic that is Michael Jackson, while the fans are soaking it up. If you knew how happy Michael Jackson makes us all. Just a picture of him sends out hearts a flutter. It you understood how we felt about him, you'd understand why we all defend him so passionately. Michael Jackson is my passion. When I feel cold and alone I turn to Michael Jackson. He makes a dark day bright. He sows a broken heart together. His music, his voice, his beautiful smile, his persona makes me so happy, even when I'm feeling really down. He brightens up my days.



:o Omfg....Please, seek help. This just isn't healthy, and I'm genuinely concerned for you...   :-\\




-Beth

OK. Yes, you're right. It's time for me to leave. It seems I came to this board to talk, but I was disgusted by people's misrepresentations and disrespect for Michael Jackson. You don't even understand who Michael Jackson is, or what he stands for. All you know is what the media tells you. All you know is lies. You can't base your opinions on someone, from lies. It's ridiculous. I came to this board and didn't agree that Michael Jackson was a child molester like the rest of you. So straight away I wasn't welcome. All the time I put up with RocknRollFan's hurtful and degrading PM's. I put up with people saying they want me to go to hell, calling me a screwball. I put up with it and stuck around because I hated seeing Michael Jackson treated like dirt. I had to defend him. I feel sorry for you all. You have been manipulated by the media. You are missing out on the magic that is Michael Jackson, while the fans are soaking it up. If you knew how happy Michael Jackson makes us all. Just a picture of him sends out hearts a flutter. It you understood how we felt about him, you'd understand why we all defend him so passionately. Michael Jackson is my passion. When I feel cold and alone I turn to Michael Jackson. He makes a dark day bright. He sows a broken heart together. His music, his voice, his beautiful smile, his persona makes me so happy, even when I'm feeling really down. He brightens up my days. Not even you lot can make me feel upset or angry when I've got Michael Jackson by my side.
So I will make this board a better place and leave. But just remember, you don't have to believe what the media tell you. You don't have to treat Michael Jackson like sheesh. It you find it in your hearts, you can show him some mercy. But I highly doubt, with dominating personalities like RNRF on the board that you will ever step out of your comfort zone and say, "Hey, let's leave the poor guy alone. He's had it rough". Ah well.
Hey first I never said you should go to hell, next, I'm glad YOU find comfort with MJ. Next, I DON'T, which is MY right just like you worshipping him is yours. Just stop trying to persuade me and the MANY others who have a difference of opinion from yours, enjoy your idol's court victory and move on with your life ;)

You are missing out on the magic that is Michael Jackson, while the fans are soaking it up. If you knew how happy Michael Jackson makes us all. Just a picture of him sends out hearts a flutter. It you understood how we felt about him, you'd understand why we all defend him so passionately. Michael Jackson is my passion. When I feel cold and alone I turn to Michael Jackson. He makes a dark day bright. He sows a broken heart together. His music, his voice, his beautiful smile, his persona makes me so happy, even when I'm feeling really down. He brightens up my days.
I think you've mistaken Michael Jackson for God.  :-X ;)


Ever heard of a fundy-MJ Fan? (Similar to a Fundy-Christian or a Fundy-Muslim etc) ???

That is you!  :o

I think you've mistaken Michael Jackson for God.  :-X ;)


Ever heard of a fundy-MJ Fan? (Similar to a Fundy-Christian or a Fundy-Muslim etc) ???

That is you!  :o
Well, the guy does have a right to his beliefs, it's just that he needs to stop trying to shove them down other peoples throats!

OK. Yes, you're right. It's time for me to leave. It seems I came to this board to talk, but I was disgusted by people's misrepresentations and disrespect for Michael Jackson. You don't even understand who Michael Jackson is, or what he stands for. All you know is what the media tells you. All you know is lies. You can't base your opinions on someone, from lies. It's ridiculous. I came to this board and didn't agree that Michael Jackson was a child molester like the rest of you. So straight away I wasn't welcome. All the time I put up with RocknRollFan's hurtful and degrading PM's. I put up with people saying they want me to go to hell, calling me a screwball. I put up with it and stuck around because I hated seeing Michael Jackson treated like dirt. I had to defend him. I feel sorry for you all. You have been manipulated by the media. You are missing out on the magic that is Michael Jackson, while the fans are soaking it up. If you knew how happy Michael Jackson makes us all. Just a picture of him sends out hearts a flutter. It you understood how we felt about him, you'd understand why we all defend him so passionately. Michael Jackson is my passion. When I feel cold and alone I turn to Michael Jackson. He makes a dark day bright. He sows a broken heart together. His music, his voice, his beautiful smile, his persona makes me so happy, even when I'm feeling really down. He brightens up my days. Not even you lot can make me feel upset or angry when I've got Michael Jackson by my side.
So I will make this board a better place and leave. But just remember, you don't have to believe what the media tell you. You don't have to treat Michael Jackson like sheesh. It you find it in your hearts, you can show him some mercy. But I highly doubt, with dominating personalities like RNRF on the board that you will ever step out of your comfort zone and say, "Hey, let's leave the poor guy alone. He's had it rough". Ah well.



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Don't leave, Robbo. You brighten my day with your defensive little boy attitude about your idol.

Crazymom: What a coincidence. I also like to argue a lot. Especially when people go on about stupid sh*t.
Mark: I knew you'd have my back. ;) :-*

Mark: I knew you'd have my back. ;) :-*
And I always will, Jess :-* ;)

I wonder if when Michael resumes his recording career, will his album/singles sell?  I haven't really liked anything he's done since his 1991 album Dangerous

He's back in the music industry. He's ready to get the ball rolling again.
He's announced his first single since the acquittal which is, "From The Bottom of My Heart" (a hurricane relief single).
He's contacted Kanye West to produce an album with him and West said he'd definately do a few tracks with him. R Kelly also has a whole album with Michael's name on it.
It's all systems go.

He's back.

I wonder if when Michael resumes his recording career, will his album/singles sell?  I haven't really liked anything he's done since his 1991 album Dangerous


I doubt it.  He may have the occasional "comebacks", but he will never be the powerful industry powerhouse that he was 20-25 years ago.

Nobody can deny how important Elvis was to music.  But by the mid 1960's, he had largely been left behind.  The industry had changed, and his fans got older and older.  The newer generations prefered music by groups like The Beatles and The Doors.  His last #1 record was "Suspicious Minds" in late 1969.  He had a short revival after performing in 1973, and then his career died again.  He was planning yet another "comeback" when he died in 1977.

Michael's career is over.  He may have an occasional song pop up here and there, but they will be flukes.  He does not seem to understand that his style has been left behind.  His antics have alienated even more of his former fans.

And hanging onto the career of R. Kelly may be an even bigger mistake.  Nobody wants to listen to 2 pedophiles singing together.  R. Kelly is another known pedophile, and his career also has taken a sharp dive since this became public knowledge.  After all, he was 27 when he married a 15 year old Aaliyah.  And the rumors of his involvement with underage girls go way back to the early 1990's.  And with the videotape of him having sex with 2 different 14 year old girls is rather convincing, unless you live in the state of Denial.

Who knows, maybe they can make a reality TV show.  Every week, viewers could tune in, and see the antics of 2 over the hill, washed up R&B singers as they chase young boys and girls.

Naw, that is to disturbing, even for todays trashy TV market.

He's back in the music industry. He's ready to get the ball rolling again.
He's announced his first single since the acquittal which is, "From The Bottom of My Heart" (a hurricane relief single).
He's contacted Kanye West to produce an album with him and West said he'd definately do a few tracks with him. R Kelly also has a whole album with Michael's name on it.
It's all systems go.

He's back.
Isn't R. Kelly the guy who filmed himself having sex with a 13 year old girl? ::)

That would be him....he is best known for the song "Fly" (I believe I can fly, I believe I can touch the sky...)  Although, I think she was 14, but either age, it's still pretty sick (though I've seen the tape and one of them sure as heck doesn't LOOK 14) >:(
I've never seen the tape but I thought it was just one girl...though that's bad enough >:(

There are multiple tapes ;)
What a sicko :P

There are multiple tapes ;)


I have seen clips of the tapes.  They were on the news, with the girl's face and other areas blured out.  They showed 2 different girls, 1 was 14 the other was 15.

The 14 year old was the neice of one of his "associates", so I don't see how he can claim he did not know her age.

I can understand how once was an "oops".  But we are now talking about 3 different girls, all 15 or under.  This is a disturbing and disgusting trend.

I think R. Kelly and Michelle Jackson deserve each other.  And I will never buy one of their CDs again.  I do not even play them at gigs, unless I am pestered by the customer to play them.

I think R. Kelly and Michelle Jackson deserve each other.  And I will never buy one of their CDs again.  I do not even play them at gigs, unless I am pestered by the customer to play them.

Why wont you play Michael Jackson at "gigs"? He was found not guilty. Is that not enough for you? By court of law he did not do it.

I have seen clips of the tapes.  They were on the news, with the girl's face and other areas blured out.  They showed 2 different girls, 1 was 14 the other was 15.

The 14 year old was the neice of one of his "associates", so I don't see how he can claim he did not know her age.

I can understand how once was an "oops".  But we are now talking about 3 different girls, all 15 or under.  This is a disturbing and disgusting trend.

I think R. Kelly and Michelle Jackson deserve each other.  And I will never buy one of their CDs again.  I do not even play them at gigs, unless I am pestered by the customer to play them.
Oh but haven't you heard? Whacko is doing a hurricane relief CD, so that makes him "Good" again ::)

Why wont you play Michael Jackson at "gigs"? He was found not guilty. Is that not enough for you? By court of law he did not do it.
Robbo!!  This place just wan't the same without you. JUST because he was found not guillty does NOT mean he was innocent ::)

Obiviously guilty

Though I still listen to his "Thriller" & "Bad"  albums once in a while

He's so guilty.  He's on such a roll lately, maybe his next song should be a cover of the 1986 Kenny Loggins hit 'Playing With the Boys'  ;D

people that rape should be casterated.

Why wont you play Michael Jackson at "gigs"? He was found not guilty. Is that not enough for you? By court of law he did not do it.


Mr. Guest, I refuse to buy or play them, because they are morally reprehensible pedophiles.

In fact, most of the jurors who have been interviewed admit that they think he is a pedophile.  They simply state that there was not enough burden of proof in this case.  And as everybody should know, being found Not Guilty is not the same as being found Innocent.

Not Guilty means that the State did not meet the Burden Of Proof.  Innocent means that the person did not do it.

OJ was found Not Guilty also.  But he is still a wife beating murderer.  I will not buy any movie with him in it.  I refuse to put money into the pockets of people like them.

Robbo!!  This place just wan't the same without you. JUST because he was found not guillty does NOT mean he was innocent ::)



Ha! Ya, I was just going to say that....Robbo just can't stay away!




Erin :)

Ha! Ya, I was just going to say that....Robbo just can't stay away!




Erin :)
:) I suppose we should brace ourselves for yet another bout of crap ::)

:) I suppose we should brace ourselves for another wave of crap ::)



ya, as long as Michael Jackson is still getting publicity...we will have to hear all about it.




Erin :)

ya, as long as Michael Jackson is still getting publicity...we will have to hear all about it.




Erin :)
Sad but true, though it does set him up for more scrutiny, which he SO deserves ;)

Hahaha. I can't believe people still aren't over the trial. Good grief.

people that rape should be casterated.


Amen to that.

people that rape should be casterated.

Casterated?
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He has been proved not guilty ten times and that is that!

He has been proved not guilty ten times and that is that!
Not guilty does NOT always mean innocent....Example: OJ Simpson ::)

Hahaha. I can't believe people still aren't over the trial. Good grief.
Hahaha, I can't believe you keep coming back for more ridicule....Robbo :D ;D BTW, I'm over the trial but forever sickened that the pervert got away with it >:(

Robbo? Who the hell is that?

I came hear to promote Michael Jackson's new charity single. I was sickened by people's disrespect for the man.
He was found not guilty, that's that. The point is, before the verdict and before the trial, everyone was saying "I don't know if he is guilty or not, so let's see what the jury says." The jury says "not guilty" and everyone still says he is guilty. The man endured a 4 month trial just to prove that he didn't do it, when he did, people still didn't believe it. What does he have to do?

Robbo? Who the hell is that?

I came hear to promote Michael Jackson's new charity single. I was sickened by people's disrespect for the man.
He was found not guilty, that's that. The point is, before the verdict and before the trial, everyone was saying "I don't know if he is guilty or not, so let's see what the jury says." The jury says "not guilty" and everyone still says he is guilty. The man endured a 4 month trial just to prove that he didn't do it, when he did, people still didn't believe it. What does he have to do?


Hey babycakes! Good to see you back and defending your weenie sucking hero!

Wow, he made a single. Just for the record (and I hate to do this because actors and such usually blow), have you noticed how many other stars are actually out there making a difference for the victims? They're not sitting on their wannabe white asses trying to do a song that will never fly with anybody. Hell, Sean Penn was out there knee deep in muck rescuing people. And where was your God at? Oh yeah, in Dubai sucking up to the peeps there!

So what does MJ have to do to earn some respect? Maybe 'fess up to being a molestor and then jump off the Golden Gate.

The man endured a 4 month trial just to prove that he didn't do it, when he did, people still didn't believe it. What does he have to do?
Perhaps he ought to start staking out the nation's exclusive golf courses in order to try and track down the "real molesters."  ;D ;D ;D

Robbo? Who the hell is that?


Robbo was some pedophile-supporter we had in here a while ago.

He was real easy to spot too.  You see, he was so ashamed of his "hero", that he would never sign in as anything but a guest.  And he was always changing his name.

Ya know, I wonder if this should be moved to the "Politics" section, because of the "contriversial" nature of Michelle Jackson and it's crimes?

What have you all got against Michael Jackson?
He's a fine gentleman. Very kind-hearted. He is making a single for the benefit of hurricane victims. He's done it in the past with We Are The World where he raised $60 million in aid of Africa. He was found not guilty of child molestation because he proved it in court.
What have you got against the man?

What have you all got against Michael Jackson?
He's a fine gentleman. Very kind-hearted. He is making a single for the benefit of hurricane victims. He's done it in the past with We Are The World where he raised $60 million in aid of Africa. He was found not guilty of child molestation because he proved it in court.
What have you got against the man?


the only thing proven in court was that the prosecution didn't obtain enough evidence to support a guilty verdict.

Exactly. Everyone is presumed innocent. That prosecution has to prove the defendant is guilty, this didn't happened which means Michael Jackson is still presumed innocent.

Exactly. Everyone is presumed innocent. That prosecution has to prove the defendant is guilty, this didn't happened which means Michael Jackson is still presumed innocent.


presumed is the right word, he is presumed innocent because of the lack of evidence, his innocence has never been proven either

the prosecution mucked up the case


Not to mention (and this may have been said previously in this thread but I'm too lazy to read back to see) the fact that several of the jurors have stepped forward to say that they feel that he really IS GUILTY!!!

Not to mention (and this may have been said previously in this thread but I'm too lazy to read back to see) the fact that several of the jurors have stepped forward to say that they feel that he really IS GUILTY!!!


That is so true.  And even as this debate goes on, Michelle is undergoing a trial for....

Child Molestation.

Decades ago, John Gotti was called "The Teflon Don".  Everybody knew he was guilty, they just had a problem with making anything stick.  But they eventually did find him guilty, and he spent the rest of his life in jail.

Maybe we should call him "The Teflon Pedophile".

Can we please, please, please move on to another topic and leave this one alone? Some people believe he is guilty as sin. Fine, for all any of us know, he could very well be. I don't live inside his head--thankfully--and neither do any of you. Some others are 100% sure of his innocence and are horrified at how many people think he is guilty. That's fine too, because he has done a hell of a lot in his career, and he seems--to a lot of people--to be like a soft-spoken and shy child who only wants to help and entertain others. The bottom line is none of us are ever going to know if he--in fact--did or did not molest kids. He went to court and was found not guilty, and as we all know, the court is not infallible. So you know what? No offense to atheists or people who believe in other religious beings...but let God decide if he's guilty or not and let's not tear each other apart over this matter anymore. It's not worth it.

Can we please, please, please move on to another topic and leave this one alone? Some people believe he is guilty as sin. Fine, for all any of us know, he could very well be. I don't live inside his head--thankfully--and neither do any of you. Some others are 100% sure of his innocence and are horrified at how many people think he is guilty. That's fine too, because he has done a hell of a lot in his career, and he seems--to a lot of people--to be like a soft-spoken and shy child who only wants to help and entertain others. The bottom line is none of us are ever going to know if he--in fact--did or did not molest kids. He went to court and was found not guilty, and as we all know, the court is not infallible. So you know what? No offense to atheists or people who believe in other religious beings...but let God decide if he's guilty or not and let's not tear each other apart over this matter anymore. It's not worth it.
Yes, I'm sick of reading the support of this crotch-grabbing, child molesting sicko as well. BUT the FACT remains that as much "Talent" as he had, he is a criminal and I for one , will NOT ever let the facts go that he is a sick person who has damaged many peoples lives through his obsession. Just as OJ commited a double murder and got away with it....yet those of us with brains KNOW he did it, we also know that this creep has gotten away with unspeakable acts against innocent boys. "Karma" will get him but unfortunately, the victims will have to live with what happened to them :\'(  Lastly...ALWAYS remember that "Not Guilty" does NOT mean "Innocent"

I still like his music from The Jackson 5 and solo albums in the 80's  8)

But is a creep  :P

Like I still like "Risky Business", but don't believe in that particular's actors' views...

There's too much proof that he is innocent to even think he might be guilty. It's out of the question. The proof won in this case, and the proof showed that Michael did not commit those crimes.

He's a great musician, the best there ever was. Elvis Presley, The Beatles, Led Zeppilin...nothing when compared to Michael Jackson.

On the topic of Presley... Elvis Presley is NOT the King of Rock & Roll, Chuck Berry and Little Richard did more for music than he sould ever dream of. He just copied what Chucky Berry had allready been doing for years.

Michael Jackson was found not guilty for the same reason OJ Simpson and Robert Blake were found not guilty.


Because they're famous and money can buy you innonence.  If you REALLY think Michael never molested a kid, you're the only living in Neverland, not him.  If the man can go on national TV and lie and say he's only had one surgery on his nose, than he can most certainly lie about molesting a child.

OMG this thread is so old.  Michael Jackson is like so last year  ::)

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Michael Jackson was found not guilty for the same reason OJ Simpson and Robert Blake were found not guilty.
Because they're famous and money can buy you innonence.  If you REALLY think Michael never molested a kid, you're the only living in Neverland, not him.  If the man can go on national TV and lie and say he's only had one surgery on his nose, than he can most certainly lie about molesting a child.

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Where you directing that statement to me in the sentence I've highlighted to bold?