The American President (1995) starring Michael Douglas and Annette Bening.  Very good movie.


Dion O'Banion was a florist/mobster, arch rival of Al Capone and orderer of many a hit.

It's nice to see all the optimistic comments now that the day is finally here and everyone is ready for change. I  only wish
I could share the optimism. I hope Obama makes me eat my words, I hope he proves how wrong I've been, I hope he
makes me so proud that he is our President that I will work diligently for his reelection in 4 years. As of right now though,
I can't help but feel that he just pulled off the biggest scam in history.


Then you missed the 2000 election?

Then you missed the 2000 election?

You think that was a bigger scam than the 2004 one?

IMO, if the majority (or even a substantial enough majority) of the population had a proper understanding of statistics, the 2004 result wouldn't have stood.

Then you missed the 2000 election?


I don't consider 2000 a scam at all. Bush didn't convince the majority of the population that he was the answer to
all the nation's woes. The 2000 election, as well as 2004, was the biggest sham of an election not really a scam.

That he duped millions of American voters into thinking he's the great savior. The one to right the ship and get us out
of this economic hellhole and to fix all the wrongs inflicted upon us from the Bush administration only to prove he has his
own selfish agendas and all his promises of American glory was just a smoke screen to set him on his path to fame and
fortune while "we the people," suffer through 4 more years of the same old bullcrap.

Like I said though, I hope he proves me wrong and if he does it will be the most satisfying bit of crow I will ever eat.



I share the same concerns.  However, he's got his fame and fortune.  From a selfish standpoint, it's in his best interest to secure a great legacy.  To that end, he has to show Bush up to be the worst president ever and himself to be great reformer and healer.  Like FDR, public sentiment will be on his side if he stands up to the fat cats and the establishment political class. 

That he duped millions of American voters into thinking he's the great savior. The one to right the ship and get us out
of this economic hellhole and to fix all the wrongs inflicted upon us from the Bush administration only to prove he has his
own selfish agendas and all his promises of American glory was just a smoke screen to set him on his path to fame and
fortune while "we the people," suffer through 4 more years of the same old bullcrap.

Like I said though, I hope he proves me wrong and if he does it will be the most satisfying bit of crow I will ever eat.



So if he repeats the bush administration........

With BHO swearing for the second time, does it mean the USA was without a true President for two days?

No, he was still President as of noon on January 20th.

No, he was still President as of noon on January 20th.
...or was it a few minutes after midday?

With BHO swearing for the second time, does it mean the USA was without a true President for two days?

As opposed to 8 years?

As opposed to 8 years?
Too true.

...or was it a few minutes after midday?
yeah, i think technically they were a couple minutes late with the oath so for a few minutes biden was technically president.

just think, if mccain had won and the same thing had happened, for a few minutes sarah palin would have technically been president.  :o

i wonder if mccain might have won if he'd picked a different running mate. food for thought.

The President-elect assumes the duties of the President the moment the term of the President ends.  So even though he hasn't taken the oath he is acting as President.  So, oath or not, Obama was President the same moment Bush stopped being President.  The oath is a formality.  Obama was right in having it re-done.  Can you imagine the rightrightright laying in wait on that.

Amendment 20 - Presidential, Congressional Terms. Ratified 1/23/1933. History

1. The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

2. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

4. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.

5. Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article.

6. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission.


He was officially prez as of noon according to the Constitution. Going back in history (granted this was before the 20th Amendment was passed), VP Calvin Coolidge was visiting his father here in Vermont when Harding died. News reached CC in the middle of the night. Even though he had not taken the oath, he WAS president. They were trying to figure out what to do and they decided rather than waiting until CC got back to D.C. for the Chief Justice to administer the oath, to have a notary public administer it-which just happened to be Calvin's father.



Cat 

With BHO swearing for the second time, does it mean the USA was without a true President for two days?


It was to tell FOXNEWS to STFU.

It was to tell FOXNEWS to STFU.
does that ever work, though?

does that ever work, though?


I dunno, I stopped watching FOX News years ago.

Amendment 20 - Presidential, Congressional Terms. Ratified 1/23/1933. History

1. The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.

2. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.

3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

4. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.

5. Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article.

6. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission.


He was officially prez as of noon according to the Constitution. Going back in history (granted this was before the 20th Amendment was passed), VP Calvin Coolidge was visiting his father here in Vermont when Harding died. News reached CC in the middle of the night. Even though he had not taken the oath, he WAS president. They were trying to figure out what to do and they decided rather than waiting until CC got back to D.C. for the Chief Justice to administer the oath, to have a notary public administer it-which just happened to be Calvin's father.



Cat   




This part was ratified because Herbert Hoover was considered the worst president ever...for his time (But I still think Warren G. Harding keeps that role).

The President-elect assumes the duties of the President the moment the term of the President ends.  So even though he hasn't taken the oath he is acting as President.  So, oath or not, Obama was President the same moment Bush stopped being President.  The oath is a formality.  Obama was right in having it re-done.  Can you imagine the rightrightright laying in wait on that.

Yeah, Chris Wallace, El Dorko Supremo at FOX News, was squawking about Obama not really being President because they flubbed the oath.  However, as Keith Olbermann pointed out, the president-elect becomes the president at noon on January 20th, whether he's swearing the oath or taking a bath.  He added, "What are you, eleven years old?," in regards to Wallace.  

One of Olbermann's guests remarked that the conspiracy nuts could rest assured.  Olbermann commented, "They'll find something else."  So true, they will!
::)

This part was ratified because Herbert Hoover was considered the worst president ever...for his time (But I still think Warren G. Harding keeps that role).


Don't forget James Buchanan.  My hometown was named for him when he was a Senator.  ::)

Don't forget James Buchanan.  My hometown was named for him when he was a Senator.   ::)


I didn't forget. He was sooooo bad, he was considered the last President. Something that Bush wasn't called too much.

Don't forget James Buchanan.  My hometown was named for him when he was a Senator.   ::)


He was never a Senator he was a congressman.  BTW, I'm from Lancaster . . . where he lived.

I didn't forget. He was sooooo bad, he was considered the last President. Something that Bush wasn't called too much.


Some of us have a better understanding of the man.  Even remotely comparing him to Bush is a slap in the face to Buchanan. 8-P

He was never a Senator he was a congressman.  BTW, I'm from Lancaster . . . where he lived.


Did you go to James Buchanan High or something?
???

Did you go to James Buchanan High or something?
???


No however my friend and I did get yelled at for kicking around a soccerball in his back yard.  My grimmy fingerprints are also on his writing desk.  My Mom's friend was a guide at Wheatland which was his home.

No however my friend and I did get yelled at for kicking around a soccerball in his back yard.  My grimmy fingerprints are also on his writing desk.  My Mom's friend was a guide at Wheatland which was his home.


I have relatives in Lanchester. They would go to Clearfield which is near Penn State every August. I didn't go last year, but I'll be going sometime this spring.

Maybe I'll ask what their opinions on Buchanan to them!

I have relatives in Lanchester. They would go to Clearfield which is near Penn State every August. I didn't go last year, but I'll be going sometime this spring.

Maybe I'll ask what their opinions on Buchanan to them!


Lanchester?  Where is that?  Do you mean Lancaster?  Clearfield is up towards State College which is about 135 miles away from Lancaster.  Why would they have an opinion on Buchanan?  By the way there are two Penn State campuses in that area.  One in State College and one in Harrisburg.

Lanchester?  Where is that?  Do you mean Lancaster?  Clearfield is up towards State College which is about 135 miles away from Lancaster.  Why would they have an opinion on Buchanan?  By the way there are two Penn State campuses in that area.  One in State College and one in Harrisburg.


I mean the one in State College.

And I'm sorry that I misspelled your home city.

I mean the one in State College.

And I'm sorry that I misspelled your home city.


State College took over Dickinson Law School which was where Buchanan graduated from.  This should be interesting, maybe they would have an opinion.

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He was never a Senator he was a congressman. 


That makes it worse, somehow.  Although maybe he was a better Congressman than President, so at the time there was some "honor" in it.  Guess the town should have waited to see how it all played out and named themselves something else.  Doesn't it make you wonder how someone from the "lower house" can jump right to president?  Maybe he should have done some time as Senator before striving for president.

That makes it worse, somehow.  Although maybe he was a better Congressman than President, so at the time there was some "honor" in it.  Guess the town should have waited to see how it all played out and named themselves something else.  Doesn't it make you wonder how someone from the "lower house" can jump right to president?  Maybe he should have done some time as Senator before striving for president.


Many of our Presidents were never in the Senate.  They pretty well split between Senators, Congressmen and Governors.

That makes it worse, somehow.  Although maybe he was a better Congressman than President, so at the time there was some "honor" in it.  Guess the town should have waited to see how it all played out and named themselves something else.  Doesn't it make you wonder how someone from the "lower house" can jump right to president?  Maybe he should have done some time as Senator before striving for president.


Lincoln was only a congressman too.  Quite a few have gone from Congressman to President.  How about U.S. Grant who went from being a General to being president.  Basing his qualifications on the fact that he was a war hero.

Lincoln was only a congressman too.  Quite a few have gone from Congressman to President.  How about U.S. Grant who went from being a General to being president.  Basing his qualifications on the fact that he was a war hero.


Washington and Eisenhower took that route.

...and Jackson

John Q. Adams went from the White House to the House.  ;) :D ;D ;D



Cat

John Q. Adams went from the White House to the House.  ;) :D ;D ;D



Cat


I forgot about that one.  God bless him, he gave 'em a run for their money once he got there, too  :)

random blog comment on sadly no:

The “USS Free Enterprise� has fires on all decks & their Talking Point deflector-shields are shot to hell - Barack “Khan� Obama is pwning them already, & he hasn’t even been in the Oval Office for a whole month yet. The GOP thinks it’s still 1997 & they can be The Roadblock Party with impunity - & that delusion is going to buy them a political headshot.

Obama offered to play nice & got blown off … now he doesn’t have to play nice AT ALL any more if he feels like breaking out the brass-knuckles … & I’m pretty sure he counted on being given just that opening. He’s well-positioned right now to rip the GOP in half, & if he does there won’t be much sorrow across the fruited plains for the demise of America’s political Yakuza. Dude’s not fudgeing around - unlike the vacation-whore he replaced.

the Wingnutz can smell their bacon sizzling, & they aren’t loving it. But now their beloved FUD blitz just does a 180 & winds up all over their pointy heads … & unfortunately, they’ve long since forgotten how to think, so it’s all they know how to do any more.

Mammoths probably enjoyed those nice toasty tar-pits on cold Ice Age mornings … until they tried to get out of them.



oh snap

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Okay...that was just wrong. 8-P

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Grrrross!

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(For a good time, google "Bunny Suicides".)

lol i tried to make it my avatar but i couldn't make it work right so i went with the pretty cute tongue action, rather than the satanic, hideous tongue action.

i love how the background is "my friends" over and over again. that's a laffriot right there.

just think about all those nights you KNOW john mcC was licking sarah palin's ear for hours and hours at a pop. that's late night!

Remember Ted Haggard?  How he said it's not really gay if you're only naked and doing meth with another naked guy?  And how the general response was that he should go frack himself? 

Well it he was way ahead of us on that front, because it maybe it's also not really gay if it's made of plastic and a replica of...

...anyways, that's just how cognitive dissonance works:  you give him an inch and he'll take a mile.  And he'll call it "Ted Two".

On that note, we're gonna sign this post off with the other immortal words of Ron Burgundy: "You stay classy, Ted."

Remember Ted Haggard?  How he said it's not really gay if you're only naked and doing meth with another naked guy?  And how the general response was that he should go frack himself? 

Well it he was way ahead of us on that front, because it maybe it's also not really gay if it's made of plastic and a replica of...

...anyways, that's just how cognitive dissonance works:  you give him an inch and he'll take a mile.  And he'll call it "Ted Two".

On that note, we're gonna sign this post off with the other immortal words of Ron Burgundy: "You stay classy, Ted."


He been diagnosed with heterosexual complications, but . . . he's not gay. ::)

So, I guess he's out of personal trainers to do meth and "pal" around with.

He been diagnosed with heterosexual complications, but . . . he's not gay. ::)

So, I guess he's out of personal trainers to do meth and "pal" around with.


Well, there's always this guy.  Oh, wait.  Female inflatable dolls.  Totally not Ted's type of plastic.

Well, there's always this guy.  Oh, wait.  Female inflatable dolls.  Totally not Ted's type of plastic.


I suppose plastic is the only thing some people can get.  Guy looks kind of homely.  Ted's type doesn't have the extras that normal inflatable dolls have.

The George W. Bush Presidential Library, now in the planning stages, is accepting donations.

The Library will include:

The Hurricane Katrina Room, which is still under construction.
The Alberto Gonzales Room, which contains no memories.
The Walter Reed Hospital Room, where they don't let you in.
The Guantanamo Bay Room, where they don't let you out.
The Texas Air National Guard Room, where you don't even have to show up.
The Weapons of Mass Destruction Room, which no one has been able to find.
The National Debt Room, which is huge and has no ceiling.
The Tax Cut Room, with entry only to the wealthy.
The Economy Room, which is in the toilet.
The Iraq War Room. (After you complete your first visit, they make you go
back for a second, third, fourth, and sometimes fifth visit.)
The Dick Cheney Room, in the famous undisclosed location, complete with shooting gallery.
The Environmental Conservation Room, still empty.
The Supreme Gift Shop, where you can buy an election.
The Airport Men's Room, where you can meet some of your favorite Republican Senators.
The Decider Room, complete with dart board, magic 8-ball, Ouija board, dice, coins, and straws.

Note: The library will feature an electron microscope to help you locate and
view the President's accomplishments.

The library will also include many famous Quotes by George W. Bush:

"The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country."
"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."
"No senior citizen should ever have to choose between prescription drugs and medicine."
"I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy
- but that could change."
"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'."
"Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."
"The future will be better tomorrow."
"We're going to have the best educated American people in the world."
"One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures."
"Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it."
"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."
"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."
"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."