1) "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees."
-President Bush, on "Good Morning America," Sept. 1, 2005, six days
after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage
expected from Hurricane Katrina (Source)

2) "What I'm hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to
stay in Texas. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so
many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged
anyway so this (chuckle) - this is working very well for them."
-Former First  Lady Barbara Bush, on the Hurricane flood evacuees in
the Houston Astrodome, Sept. 5, 2005 (Source)

3) "It makes no sense to spend billions of dollars to rebuild a city
that's seven feet under sea level....It looks like a lot of that
place could be bulldozed." -House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.),
Aug. 31, 2005 (Source)

4) "We've got a lot of rebuilding to do ... The good news is - and
it's hard for some to see it now - that out of this chaos is going to
come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles
of Trent Lott's house - he's lost his entire house - there's going to
be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the
porch." (Laughter) -President Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile,
Ala., Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)

5) "Considering the dire circumstances that we have in New Orleans,
virtually a city that has been destroyed, things are going relatively
well." -FEMA Director Michael Brown, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

6) "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." -President Bush, to FEMA
director Michael Brown, while touring Hurricane-ravaged Mississippi,
Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)

7) "I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the
convention center who don't have food and water." -Homeland Security
Secretary Michael Chertoff, on NPR's "All Things Considered," Sept.
1, 2005 (Source)

8) "Well, I think if you look at what actually happened, I remember
on Tuesday morning picking up newspapers and I saw headlines, 'New
Orleans Dodged the Bullet.' Because if you recall, the storm moved to
the east and then continued on and appeared to pass with considerable
damage but nothing worse." -Homeland Security Secretary Michael
Chertoff, blaming media coverage for his failings, "Meet the Press,"
Sept. 4, 2005 (Source)

9) "I mean, you have people who don't heed those warnings and then
put people at risk as a result of not heeding those warnings. There
may be a need to look at tougher penalties on those who decide to
ride it out and understand that there are consequences to not
leaving." -Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), Sept. 6, 2005 (Source)

10) "You simply get chills every time you see these poor
individuals...many of these people, almost all of them that we see
are so poor and they are so black, and this is going to raise lots of
questions for people who are watching this story unfold." -CNN's Wolf
Blitzer, on New Orleans' hurricane evacuees, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

11) "What didn't go right?'" --President George W. Bush, as quoted by
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), after she urged him to
fire FEMA Director Michael Brown "because of all that went wrong, of
all that didn't go right" in the Hurricane Katrina relief effort
(Source)

12) "Louisiana is a city that is largely under water." -Homeland
Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, news conference, Sept. 3, 2005
(Source)

13)"I also want to encourage anybody who was affected by Hurricane
Corina to make sure their children are in school." -First Lady Laura
Bush, twice referring to a "Hurricane Corina" while speaking to
children and parents in South Haven, Mississippi, Sept. 8, 2005
(Source)

14) "It's totally wiped out. ... It's devastating, it's got to be
doubly devastating on the ground." -President George W. Bush, turning
to his aides while surveying Hurricane Katrina flood damage from Air
Force One, Aug. 31, 2005 (Source)

15) "I believe the town where I used to come - from Houston, Texas,
to enjoy myself, occasionally too much - will be that very same town,
that it will be a better place to come to." -President George W.
Bush, on the tarmac at the New Orleans airport, Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)

16) "Last night, we showed you the full force of a superpower
government going to the rescue." -MSNBC's Chris Matthews, Sept. 1,
2005 (Source)

17) "You know I talked to Haley Barbour, the governor of Mississippi
yesterday because some people were saying, 'Well, if you hadn't sent
your National Guard to Iraq, we here in Mississippi would be better
off.' He told me 'I've been out in the field every single day, hour,
for four days and no one, not one single mention of the word Iraq.'
Now where does that come from? Where does that story come from if the
governor is not picking up one word about it? I don't know. I can use
my imagination." -Former President George Bush, who can give his
imagination a rest, interview with CNN's Larry King, Sept. 5, 2005
(Source)

18) "...those who are stranded, who chose not to evacuate, who chose
not to leave the city..." -FEMA Director Michael Brown, on New
Orleans residents who could not evacuate because they were too poor
and lacked the means to leave, CNN interview, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

19) "We just learned of the convention center - we being the federal
government - today." -FEMA Director Michael Brown, to ABC's Ted
Koppel, Sept. 1, 2005, to which Koppel responded " Don't you guys
watch television? Don't you guys listen to the radio? Our reporters
have been reporting on it for more than just today." (Source)

20) "I don't make judgments about why people chose not to leave but,
you know, there was a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans." -FEMA
Director Michael Brown, arguing that the victims bear some
responsibility, CNN interview, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

21) "I don't want to alarm everybody that, you know, New Orleans is
filling up like a bowl. That's just not happening." -Bill Lokey,
FEMA's New Orleans coordinator, in a press briefing from Baton Rouge,
Aug. 30, 2005 (Source)

22) "FEMA is not going to hesitate at all in this storm. We are not
going to sit back and make this a bureaucratic process. We are going
to move fast, we are going to move quick, and we are going to do
whatever it takes to help disaster victims." --FEMA Director Michael
Brown, Aug. 28, 2005 (Source)

23) "I understand there are 10,000 people dead. It's terrible. It's
tragic. But in a democracy of 300 million people, over years and
years and years, these things happen." --GOP strategist Jack Burkman,
on MSNBC's "Connected," Sept. 7, 2005 (Source)

24) "As of Saturday (Sept. 3), Blanco still had not declared a state
of emergency, the senior Bush official said." -Washington Post staff
writers Manuel Roig-Franzia and Spencer Hsu, who didn't bother to
fact-check the blatant lie peddled by the Bush administration as part
of its attempts to pin blame on state and local officials, when, in
fact, the emergency declaration had been made on Friday, Aug. 26
(Source)

25) "Thank President Clinton and former President Bush for their
strong statements of support and comfort today. I thank all the
leaders that are coming to Louisiana, and Mississippi and Alabama to
our help and rescue. We are grateful for the military assets that are
being brought to bear. I want to thank Senator Frist and Senator Reid
for their extraordinary efforts. Anderson, tonight, I don't know if
you've heard - maybe you all have announced it -- but Congress is
going to an unprecedented session to pass a $10 billion supplemental
bill tonight to keep FEMA and the Red Cross up and operating." -Sen.
Mary Landrieu (D-LA), to CNN's Anderson Cooper, Aug. 31, 2005, to
which Cooper responded:

  "I haven't heard that, because, for the last four days, I've been
seeing dead bodies in the streets here in Mississippi. And to listen
to politicians thanking each other and complimenting each other, you
know, I got to tell you, there are a lot of people here who are very
upset, and very angry, and very frustrated. And when they hear
politicians slap - you know, thanking one another, it just, you know,
it kind of cuts them the wrong way right now, because literally there
was a body on the streets of this town yesterday being eaten by rats
because this woman had been laying in the street for 48 hours. And
there's not enough facilities to take her up. Do you get the anger
that is out here?" (Source)




It really goes to show that these people don't have a clue of what is going on.




Cat

Heavy

There you go again, confusing the spin with actual quotes. 

3) "It makes no sense to spend billions of dollars to rebuild a city
that's seven feet under sea level....It looks like a lot of that
place could be bulldozed." -House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.),
Aug. 31, 2005 (Source)


AGREED

Very cold hearted thing to say.  It's clear to see that Hastert didn't put much thought into what he had to say. Many people define themselves partially by where they are from.  I know New Yorker's take a lot of pride in their City,  Texan's take pride in there State.  I have no doubt that New Orlean's people as well as those from Mississippi and Louisiana State as a whole  take pride in where they are from as well.  These are people's homes and it comes down to a heck of a lot more than just ground and property.  Foundations of memories, and so much more. 

4) "We've got a lot of rebuilding to do ... The good news is - and
it's hard for some to see it now - that out of this chaos is going to
come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles
of Trent Lott's house - he's lost his entire house - there's going to
be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the
porch." (Laughter) -President Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile,
Ala., Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)


DISAGREED

Tell me where the harm is in being optomistic?  The damage is already done, there is or was no way to prevent it in the first place.  Why whine and cry about it?  Why act like there is some way that Katrinia could have been prevented?  She was coming, whether anyone liked it or not.  Make the most out of a situation, even those that are devestating tragedies.  See the light, search for the light, when surrounded by darkness.  I see no harm in this.

5) "Considering the dire circumstances that we have in New Orleans,
virtually a city that has been destroyed, things are going relatively
well." -FEMA Director Michael Brown, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)


AGREED

This was just plain stupid, not much more to comment on.

7) "I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the
convention center who don't have food and water." -Homeland Security
Secretary Michael Chertoff, on NPR's "All Things Considered," Sept.
1, 2005 (Source)


DISAGREED

Maybe Chertoff really didn't know what was going on.  Just because something is the way it is, doesn't mean people are gonna speak up about it.  Unreported events are as good as events that never took place, when the moderator doesn't get them.

8) "Well, I think if you look at what actually happened, I remember
on Tuesday morning picking up newspapers and I saw headlines, 'New
Orleans Dodged the Bullet.' Because if you recall, the storm moved to
the east and then continued on and appeared to pass with considerable
damage but nothing worse." -Homeland Security Secretary Michael
Chertoff, blaming media coverage for his failings, "Meet the Press,"
Sept. 4, 2005 (Source)


Want to put agreed....but you yourself are the reason I'm gonna put....
DISAGREED

Whenever I try and point out how bad something is, I get the privilage of being told how much worse things can be.  Therefore Chertoff is 100% correct....things could have been so much worse than what they are.  The entire State of Louisiana, Mississippi and other surrounding areas could be totatally whiped off the face of this planet.  Granted, I think that "appeared to pass with considerable damage, nothing worse" is a very weak statement, that claims a weak devestation, when in fact it was a very large strong devestation.  However, compared to the entire universe blowing up in a paradox, due to a laps in the space time continum, it is only considerable damage.

AGREED

Very cold hearted thing to say.  It's clear to see that Hastert didn't put much thought into what he had to say. Many people define themselves partially by where they are from.  I know New Yorker's take a lot of pride in their City,  Texan's take pride in there State.  I have no doubt that New Orlean's people as well as those from Mississippi and Louisiana State as a whole  take pride in where they are from as well.  These are people's homes and it comes down to a heck of a lot more than just ground and property.  Foundations of memories, and so much more. 


This is something I have actually talked about in here before.

People do not want to accept the fact that New Orleans is built in what is possibly the worst place to have a city.  It rests below sea level, and is surrounded on all sides by water.  That is just a disaster waiting to happen.

Man is a vain creature.  He thinks he can control nature.  But over and over again, nature proves to be stronger.  We see this in situations like this.  This storm did more devistation then both atomic bombs dropped in 1945.  And no matter what we do, it will happen again.  The best thing we can do is prepare for the next one in a logical manner.

Myself, I feel that New Orleans should largely be razed.  Keep the French Quarter, and parts that are of cultural and historical nature.  But don't even attempt to protect the entire city.  The majority of the city should be eliminated, and housing should not be allowed.

In fact, a good thing in my opinion would be to return as much of the area as possible to marshlands as possible.  This would have the added effect of helping to protect what is left.

But I know this will never happen.  New Orleans will be rebuilt.  People will move back in.  And some time in the future this will happen all over again.  It may be 5 years from now, it may be 30 years from now.  It could even be a month from now.  But it will happen again.  Storm surge will push the Gulf into the city from one side, and as it passes it will push the lake in from the other side.  And the increased water flow will make the Mississippi overflow it's banks as well.

^ On the same note, Amsterdam and Venice are sitting on borrowed time, although they aren't in as bad of a weather pocket as the Gulf States are.

DISAGREED

Maybe Chertoff really didn't know what was going on.  Just because something is the way it is, doesn't mean people are gonna speak up about it.  Unreported events are as good as events that never took place, when the moderator doesn't get them.


Then what the hell was he doing in his position? How come the reporters knew and not him?

^ On the same note, Amsterdam and Venice are sitting on borrowed time, although they aren't in as bad of a weather pocket as the Gulf States are.


That is very true.

Venice was once well above "Sea Level".  But over the centuries, they went from a near sea side town, to sea side, until now they use boats instead of taxis in large areas.  And there are areas that were above water 200 years ago that are now underwater.

Holland is a little more prepared then these areas.  For hundreds of years, they have built dykes and pumps in order to keep their low lying areas dry.  But even so, they expect to loose sections periodically.

This is something I have actually talked about in here before.

People do not want to accept the fact that New Orleans is built in what is possibly the worst place to have a city.  It rests below sea level, and is surrounded on all sides by water.  That is just a disaster waiting to happen.

Man is a vain creature.  He thinks he can control nature.  But over and over again, nature proves to be stronger.  We see this in situations like this.  This storm did more devistation then both atomic bombs dropped in 1945.  And no matter what we do, it will happen again.  The best thing we can do is prepare for the next one in a logical manner.

Myself, I feel that New Orleans should largely be razed.  Keep the French Quarter, and parts that are of cultural and historical nature.  But don't even attempt to protect the entire city.  The majority of the city should be eliminated, and housing should not be allowed.

In fact, a good thing in my opinion would be to return as much of the area as possible to marshlands as possible.  This would have the added effect of helping to protect what is left.

But I know this will never happen.  New Orleans will be rebuilt.  People will move back in.  And some time in the future this will happen all over again.  It may be 5 years from now, it may be 30 years from now.  It could even be a month from now.  But it will happen again.  Storm surge will push the Gulf into the city from one side, and as it passes it will push the lake in from the other side.  And the increased water flow will make the Mississippi overflow it's banks as well.


And when it does happen again, will we be able to point a finger into the past and say clearly and clarified, "thou shall take the past into account and realize that history does indeed repeat itself.  You should have taken the advice given to you by the past and got out while you still had time."  Or will we be plain stupid or stupidly ignorant to put all the blame upon one man as we do now.

Also has been quoted MANY times incomplete and out of context.  Much of the area DOES need to be bulldozed, there's no chance at restoration and you have to clear it before you can rebuild.  Also, it really DOESN'T make sense to rebuild it at it's current level. 


I myself want to do something even more radical.  I want to stop the artificial maintaining of the current course of the Mississippi, and let it follow it's new "Natural Course".  To me, it is insane to try and rebuild a city that rests below sea-level.  It also makes no sense to try and fight a river like the Mississippi, knowing that someday it will shift to the West, no matter how much we fight it.

Of course, allowing the river to shift it's course will also have the benefit of protecting New Orleans from being flooded so badly in the future.  Without the Mississippi, a lot of the damage from future floods will be prevented.

DISAGREED

Tell me where the harm is in being optomistic?  The damage is already done, there is or was no way to prevent it in the first place.  Why whine and cry about it?  Why act like there is some way that Katrinia could have been prevented?  She was coming, whether anyone liked it or not.  Make the most out of a situation, even those that are devestating tragedies.  See the light, search for the light, when surrounded by darkness.  I see no harm in this.

Hey, it's not just optimistic.  It's realistically optimistic.  The guys who will have their homes rebuilt and there property restored are rich white guys like Trent Lott.  Furthermore, when this disaster gets cleared up, the only porch Bush will be invited to sit on down there is Trent Lott's porch!
It's sort of like when your four-year-old tells the candid truth in front of company (eg. "Grandma says daddy doesn't have a job because he'd rather drink wine all day.")
The truth is out, and boy is it ever embarrassing...because we can ALL see it is the truth!
:-[

Remember when Daddy Bush said homeless people are homeless because they "enjoy the outdoor lifestyle," and Ed Meese said people go to soup kitchens because they're "too lazy to cook at home"?
When you deal with conservative Republicans, this is the mentality you encounter.  It's somewhere between denial and oblivion.  They have no governing agenda beyond tax cuts for the rich and sweet deals for the military-industrial complex.  The non-rich American people are just a nusiance.  Tell your best lie and hope it sticks.

Also has been quoted MANY times incomplete and out of context.  Much of the area DOES need to be bulldozed, there's no chance at restoration and you have to clear it before you can rebuild.  Also, it really DOESN'T make sense to rebuild it at it's current level.  Engineers have said that there is no way to protect it if it remains below sea level.  The levees that would need to be built to "protect" it against even a Cat 3 hurricane would take YEARS (12 was the minimum estimate) and even THOSE would probably fail.  The levees needed to protect it against a Cat 4-5 hurricane would take Billions (I think it was 40+-) and approx 20 years.


Empathy and sympathy should both be taken into consideration.  Regardless of what's best or not best to do.

Hey, it's not just optimistic.  It's realistically optimistic.  The guys who will have their homes rebuilt and there property restored are rich white guys like Trent Lott.  Furthermore, when this disaster gets cleared up, the only porch Bush will be invited to sit on down there when belongs to Trent Lott!
It's sort of like when your four-year-old tells the candid truth in front of company.  The truth is out, and boy is it ever embarrassing...because we can ALL see it's the truth!
:-[

Remember when Daddy Bush said homeless people are homeless because they "enjoy the outdoor lifestyle," and Ed Meese said people go to soup kitchens because they're "too lazy to cook at home"?
When you deal with conservative Republicans, this is the mentality you encounter.  It's somewhere between denial and oblivion.  They have no governing agenda beyond tax cuts for the rich and sweet deals for the military-industrial complex.  The non-rich American people are just a nusiance.  Tell your best lie and hope it sticks.


We have yet to see what is realistic and unrealistic.  When the time comes and you are right, hat's off to you Smart.  However, when the time comes and your wrong, let's see that receeding hair line.

We have yet to see what is realistic and unrealistic.  When the time comes and you are right, hat's off to you Smart.  However, when the time comes and your wrong, let's see that receeding hair line.

Ain't got no receding hairline...knock on wood!

I do see where Hastert is coming from.  His candor is ham-handed to be sure, but we all must face the reality that with or without Katrina, New Orleans has a limited lifespan.
The "ragged sole" estuary of Louisiana  has been eroding since man tried to tame nature.  The levee systems prevented flooding along the Mississippi, but they also interrupted the flow of alluvial soils that replenished the islands of the coastal estuary.  When those islands and marshes are gone, New Orleans becomes part of the new estuary along with Lake Ponchartrain! Furthermore, when you build a city upon silt, it sinks. 

Ain't got no receding hairline...knock on wood!

I do see where Hastert is coming from.  His candor is ham-handed to be sure, but we all must face the reality that with or without Katrina, New Orleans has a limited lifespan.
The "ragged sole" estuary of Louisiana  has been eroding since man tried to tame nature.  The levee systems prevented flooding along the Mississippi, but they also interrupted the flow of alluvial soils that replenished the islands of the coastal estuary.  When those islands and marshes are gone, New Orleans becomes part of the new estuary along with Lake Ponchartrain! Furthermore, when you build a city upon silt, it sinks. 


Maybe the answer is buying them all boat homes.

As far as New Orleans having a limited lifespan with or with out Katrina, I could also say that California has a limited life span as part of the United States.  In a short  couple of 10's of thousands of years, it'll be closer to Hawaii than it is to Nevada!

Since man tried to tame nature......this was How many years ago?  The homosapians would have called Louisiana what?

I think your looking way to far into the future, not that that's a bad thing. It's a good thing.

I just tend to think of what life will be for my children and my grandchildren.

I admire you for thinking of what life will be like for your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandchild's  great great great grandchildren.

Ain't got no receding hairline...knock on wood!

I do see where Hastert is coming from.  His candor is ham-handed to be sure, but we all must face the reality that with or without Katrina, New Orleans has a limited lifespan.
The "ragged sole" estuary of Louisiana  has been eroding since man tried to tame nature.  The levee systems prevented flooding along the Mississippi, but they also interrupted the flow of alluvial soils that replenished the islands of the coastal estuary.  When those islands and marshes are gone, New Orleans becomes part of the new estuary along with Lake Ponchartrain! Furthermore, when you build a city upon silt, it sinks. 


It is even more then that.

The thing that gives the delta it's unique shape is the fact that the Mississippi regularly shifted it's course.  It would move to one side or the other, and drop silt in another location.  This would build up yet another area.

This es aggrivated even more because of the dredging of the river.  The river is narrower then it is historically, and it is dredged deeper.  This makes the river flow faster, creating even more undercutting of the levees and sea walls.  This makes them even more sure to fail.

Add to this the fact that most of the failure is not due to the levee itself failing, but to the fact that they were undercut.  The actual failure did not occur until the day after the hurricane passed.  The soft sandy soil was simply unable to support the weight of the water and the levee, and failed.  This failure washed away the levee.

No matter what is done, the city will flood again someday.  The only way to prevent that is to build a 2,000 mile levee encircling the city, and to constantly rebuild it, because it will continue to sink along with the rest of the city.  With the Katrina storm surge of over 25 feet, the levees would have to be over 35 feet high.  And with an average sinking of 2-6 feet per century, that means that they will have to be torn down and rebuilt constantly.

Add to that, the fact that a heavy concrete levee will increase the sinking of the land where they are built on!  The levees they had in place already were constantly rebuilt, because they would sink under their own weight.  Imagine how fast they would sink if they were 30' high and made of cement.

No matter what, they will fail again.  Just as it was impossible to prevent them from failing this time.

Maybe the answer is buying them all boat homes.


Hey, don't give nobody no ideas there!  The feds will send junked vessels from the military and give one to each family of those people.  Then they'll shove 'em all off into the Gulf and wave so long!


It is even more then that.

The thing that gives the delta it's unique shape is the fact that the Mississippi regularly shifted it's course.  It would move to one side or the other, and drop silt in another location.  This would build up yet another area.

This es aggrivated even more because of the dredging of the river.  The river is narrower then it is historically, and it is dredged deeper.  This makes the river flow faster, creating even more undercutting of the levees and sea walls.  This makes them even more sure to fail.

Add to this the fact that most of the failure is not due to the levee itself failing, but to the fact that they were undercut.  The actual failure did not occur until the day after the hurricane passed.  The soft sandy soil was simply unable to support the weight of the water and the levee, and failed.  This failure washed away the levee.

No matter what is done, the city will flood again someday.  The only way to prevent that is to build a 2,000 mile levee encircling the city, and to constantly rebuild it, because it will continue to sink along with the rest of the city.  With the Katrina storm surge of over 25 feet, the levees would have to be over 35 feet high.  And with an average sinking of 2-6 feet per century, that means that they will have to be torn down and rebuilt constantly.

Add to that, the fact that a heavy concrete levee will increase the sinking of the land where they are built on!  The levees they had in place already were constantly rebuilt, because they would sink under their own weight.  Imagine how fast they would sink if they were 30' high and made of cement.

No matter what, they will fail again.  Just as it was impossible to prevent them from failing this time.

Well, yeah, in the physical world, every action creates a reaction.  But how do you say a 250+ year old city with a population of half a million that we're not going to let them live where they used to? 
I mean, they have flooding problems in places like Bengaladesh, and the poor folks just have to sit there and take it. 

DISAGREED

Tell me where the harm is in being optomistic?  The damage is already done, there is or was no way to prevent it in the first place.  Why whine and cry about it?  Why act like there is some way that Katrinia could have been prevented?  She was coming, whether anyone liked it or not.  Make the most out of a situation, even those that are devestating tragedies.  See the light, search for the light, when surrounded by darkness.  I see no harm in this.


You missed the point here.  Who gives a rat's hind parts about Trent Lott's house?  It was a stupid, glib, insensitive comment from a stupid, glib, insensitive, spoiled rich boy.

Hah, a good chunk were here on this forum.

The part of the article PRIOR to the comments:
“First of all, your heart goes out to the people, the loss of their homes,” the Plano Republican said. “But there are some real tough questions to ask about how you go about rebuilding the city.”

Asked whether it made sense to spend billions of federal tax dollars reconstructing a city that sits below sea level and remains vulnerable, Hastert said: “It doesn’t make sense to me.”
http://www.dailyherald.com/search/searchstory.asp?id=35808


I agree, however, the particular question to which he was responding had nothing to do with how he felt towards those who had been affected, it SPECIFICALLY dealt with what to do from here.  He HAD been asked how he felt, but that was 'conveniently' left out.  I have the benefit of living in "Hastert territory" and this has been reported to death.  If he had said "Yes, let's rebuild exactly as it was" and a few years down the road, it was hit by another hurricane and suffered the same devastation, he would be attacked for not recommending that modifications be made as to it's location below sea level.  When the flood hit (I think in 98?) the Mississippi Valley, many towns that were wiped out were relocated to higher ground.  That was in his mind when asked about rebuilding.  He's not saying that it should be moved, but that modifications be made to rebuild ABOVE sea level to help prevent a disaster like this again.





This is done so many times.  I hate how the media among other's tell you only half-truths.  I suppose life should be treated like a court battle.  Both the defense and the offense have to be heard.  Like Paul Harvey say's you can't know it all until you know "the rest of the story."

I agree (wow, twice in one week :o)  However, as I said, since I'm in "Hastert country", this has been reported so many times, it's ridiculous.  If I'm not mistaken, the interview was about 10 minutes long and a few sentences were the only thing printed.....of those, only 1 was reprinted and reprinted and reprinted.  Crap like this is the reason I went out on my own and looked at the 9-11 commission report and have done research on many other subjects because I've learned that the media only report what THEY want.  It shouldn't surprise me from the Daily Herald, though ::)


Thankfully not everything has been recorded like that.  Imagnie only one word of the Declaration of Independence being saved in record.  What really bedaffles me is that even with the entire story, there is still information that needs to be obtained.  It's sorta hard to look at the why did he/she say that, what is the situation inwhich he/she said that, what was society like when he/she said that, who/what was/were the influences behind what he/she said, and all the other questions that must be asked for the TRUTH of the matter.  Shamely, the media obviously doesn't want the truths, or full story I should say to be politically correct.

OMG :o  3 times in one week :o :o :o  :-*


I've read more believable things in Weekly World News

I've read more believable things in Weekly World News

Weekly World News gets all the great scoops, and gets 'em before anybody else!  You could read the The New York Times or the Wall Street Journal, but you'd be totally in the dark!

Weekly World News gets all the great scoops, and gets 'em before anybody else!  You could read the The New York Times or the Wall Street Journal, but you'd be totally in the dark!


Who care's about what's going on down in Louisiana?  Bat Boy is still on the loose!

And, he's impregnated the green cat and they are having leprechaun offspring :D


Why isn't the government doing something about this! 

Because Bush is going to put makeup on them to be his "body doubles" ;)


I'm involved in the world of Theatre myself, and I tell you that will be a challenge.

Who care's about what's going on down in Louisiana?  Bat Boy is still on the loose!

Actually, I stole that idea from the "Men In Black" movie in which everything in the check-out tabloids is TRUE, but nobody else realizes is it.  One of the "men in black" says, "better check the hot sheets," as he picks up a copy of the National Enquirer, then he turns to the Will Smith character and explains, "You could read the 'New York Times," but----"  (I forgot the quote)
:D

Well, Michael Jackson has managed to pass himself off as almost white, it shouldn't be too hard for a leprechaun...you know, as a woman I'm well versed in makeups and you wouldn't believe the "maximum coverage" stuff they've got out there ;)


That is an excellent point.

Here is a good point of Michael Jackson's, "What is the deal with you and me being white?  White people go around and they tan. Making themselves look black, NO ONE have no problem with that, but a black man look white, everybody get rilled up"

Does he really talk in that syntax?? :o

Does he really talk in that syntax?? :o


To be honest with you I remember more about laughing my butt off making fun of it with my friends, than I do the actual quote and show.

It was on VH1 I believe, it was either the show with Martin Sheaur(spelled way way way off) or the extra footage that Jackson put out.  WHich in my opinion was one of the greatest examples of who forced perspective works in this country.