Democrats:
* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to  Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army
journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor,  Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat
V, Purple Hearts.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52;  Bronze Star,  Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star,
Vietnam.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign
ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76;  Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze
Stars, and Sol dier's Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and
Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze
Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in  Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft
but received #311.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul
Wallenberg.

Republicans -- These are the guys sending people to war:
* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max
Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Vin Weber: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Jon Kyl: did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got
assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for
U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared
from duty.
* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart
and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: did not serve.
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL
for 8 years.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* John Engler: did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.
* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role
making movies.

Pundits & Preachers
* Sean Hannity: did not serve.
* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
* Michael Savage: did not serve.
* George Will: did not serve.
* Chris Matthews: did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
* Bill Kristol: did not serve.
* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: did not serve.
* Michael Medved: did not serve.
* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
* Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot
back.)
* John Wayne: did not serve.

As to the last 2 lists, thats why they're called "chickenhawks".  Its always easier to send other people's children to their deaths than to send your own, or face it yourself.

I have to say, though, that I noticed that Bob Dole is missing from the Republican list :-\\


So are many others who served honorably, but had nothing to do with the current quagmire.  George H.W. Bush, Ike, even Tricky Dicky all served.

John Adams: Did not serve
Samuel Adams: DId not serve
John Hancock: Did not serve
Roger Sherman: Did not serve
Benjamin Franklin: Did not serve
Thomas Jefferson: Did not serve

Why didnt they serve in our fight against England?  Because they were the politicians, not the fighters.  They were the ones using their brains to make laws, not to fight wars. 

Plus, we cant have every politician be a veteran of the military.  THe liberals would complain about the military-industial complex again then. 

What movie was that...oh yeah, Starship Troopers....there anyone who wants the right to vote must have served in the military....now do you want something like Starship Troopers?  I mean, they have giant bugs attacking humans....my lord, we'd all be killed. 


Its a joke people

Crazymom wrote
I have to say, though, that I noticed that Bob Dole is missing from the Republican list
Don't forget John McCain!

Military service shouldn't be a litmus test for office-holding worthiness.  That's not the point of the list Danoota posted.  The list merely illustrates that many politicians and pundits who bigtime war hawks, who link military service to patriotism, who advocate aggressive foreign policy DID NOT serve in the military and themselves.
The list contrasts this with liberals--many of whom are domonized by the Right as peaceniks--did serve 
It is by no means exhaustive.

These chickenhawk azzh()les who did not serve have the grace of the Republican Noise Machine, so they're safe.  Those out of favor with the Republican Noise Machine--John Kerry, Tom Daschle, Max Cleland, and even John McCain--get bulldozed no matter how heroically they served!

"Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that all to the poor"

-- Black Sabbath, 1970

What movie was that...oh yeah, Starship Troopers....there anyone who wants the right to vote must have served in the military....now do you want something like Starship Troopers?  I mean, they have giant bugs attacking humans....my lord, we'd all be killed. 


Its a joke people


You realise that Starship Troopers is satire, don't you?  ;)

You realise that Starship Troopers is satire, don't you?  ;)


very interesting question... answer could explain a lot. ;D

You realise that Starship Troopers is satire, don't you?  ;)


yes, yes I know its a satire lol ....a very efficient satire too....I was making a joke by correlating the wrong cause and effect lol 

Crazymom wroteDon't forget John McCain!

Military service shouldn't be a litmus test for office-holding worthiness.  That's not the point of the list Danoota posted.  The list merely illustrates that many politicians and pundits who bigtime war hawks, who link military service to patriotism, who advocate aggressive foreign policy DID NOT serve in the military and themselves.
The list contrasts this with liberals--many of whom are domonized by the Right as peaceniks--did serve 
It is by no means exhaustive.

These chickenhawk azzh()les who did not serve have the grace of the Republican Noise Machine, so they're safe.  Those out of favor with the Republican Noise Machine--John Kerry, Tom Daschle, Max Cleland, and even John McCain--get bulldozed no matter how heroically they served!


and also, most of the Republicans listed arent even involved in the war debate.  What the hell does Jack Kemp have to do with anything?  Or hell, even Ronald Regan?  They just cut and paste the examples that would help them.  I mean, what about all the Democrats that didnt serve?  THere are many of them too.  Just as many as there are republicans that didnt serve. 

The only way to make this list fair is to list every person in the country by their political party and then write mark off if they served or not.  It doesnt matter if their dead, or hell even opposed the war (like a few of the Republicans listed there), lets just streamline it by going by their political party.  That should define the  person...not the other way around.