http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050610/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_ap_ipsos_poll

why were these people asleep 6 months ago when it mattered?

55% do not support bush's foreign policy
65% think the country is going in the wrong direction
59% do not approve of bush's handling of social security
57% do not support bush's handling of economy

why were these people asleep 6 months ago when it mattered?





I really don't think they were asleep. I think things were rigged-BIG TIME!!!!



Cat

I thought the only poll that mattered was on November 02, 2004.  ???

The illegal immigration thing is really making me think.

I thought the only poll that mattered was on November 02, 2004.  ???

The illegal immigration thing is really making me think.


Not if he plans on using his support to get bills passed.

Lack of public support for his Social Security detruction plan didn't exactly race that bill through the House or Senate did it? 

Never mind how much monkey business the GOP played on 11/2/04 to "win" the presidency,  one has to figure half the voting population was against Bush in the first place.  Then you're going to have at least 5% or 10% of Bush supporters b#tch about his handling of any given issue.  So, those number are no surprise.

Never mind how much monkey business the GOP played on 11/2/04 to "win" the presidency,  one has to figure half the voting population was against Bush in the first place.  Then you're going to have at least 5% or 10% of Bush supporters b#tch about his handling of any given issue.  So, those number are no surprise.


it would have been real interesting to see if he'd have still won Ohio if the Coingate info had not been surpressed by the Republicans in October of last year.  It's still not even reported in the local Clevland paper, since they only have a right-wing rag in town now.  That was only $50 million lost, there's actually a $250 million loss of funds now too.

it would have been real interesting to see if he'd have still won Ohio if the Coingate info had not been surpressed by the Republicans in October of last year.  It's still not even reported in the local Clevland paper, since they only have a right-wing rag in town now.  That was only $50 million lost, there's actually a $250 million loss of funds now too.

It makes me wonder what other stories are still surpressed by the Republicans.  When Enron broke the buzz among the punditry was it's not a political scandal, it's a business scandal, asking the general public to just overlook the buddy-buddy relationship between Ken Lay and Dubya. 

55% do not support bush's foreign policy
65% think the country is going in the wrong direction
59% do not approve of bush's handling of social security
57% do not support bush's handling of economy

Remember the survey that came out in October where between 65% and 80-something% of Republican supporters were wrong about what they thought GWB's position on various issues was?  I guess all this means is that some of them are waking up.

I guess all this means is that some of them are waking up.


It's a poll.  ::)

Ya gotta wonder if the Red States will ever get it that they sold out the future of themselves and their children by voting for Bush.

Oh yeah.... it's been rigged....  ::)

Ya gotta wonder if the Red States will ever get it that they sold out the future of themselves and their children by voting for Bush.

Not so long as big business controls television.  It always has, and it always will.  That's why they put a radical Republican in charge of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.  Mind you CPB chair Kenneth Y. Tomlinson was appointed by Clinton, not Dubya.  Clinton is no friend to the working class either, but that's a different story.
Tomlinson killed off Bill Moyers' program because Moyers was reporting the truth from the field about small-town, working class America.  He was going out there and doing journalism.  Moyers was not hobnobbing with Wall Street lackeys and right-wing think tank stooges and celebrating the "global economy."  Moyers was not calling poverty in America anomolous, he was not maligning the poor.  Moyers was going out there and reporting what's up. 
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/052105D.shtml
We can't have that, can we? 
Let's invite Jack Welch to talk about how to get by in life, and Fred Barnes to talk about working class issues instead!  Let's make the salient issues Jesus, abortion, and pornography.  Above all, let's never talk about class unless it has the word middle in front of it!

i love conspiracy theories  ::)

i love conspiracy theories  ::)

Wot?  Are you refering to what I said about CPB?  Why, that's more conspiracy fact than conspiracy theory, my man!

Let's invite Jack Welch to talk about how to get by in life, and Fred Barnes to talk about working class issues instead! 

That's like Bill O'Riellly ($40 million a year) trying to pass himself off as just average folk because he would rather drink coffee than a latte.

That's like multi millionaire Republican lap dog Sean Hannity interviewing multimillionaire goobernator Auh-nold, and telling the rest of us we should learn how to live withing a budget.

And yet these finacial elitists have the nerve to tell us that Bush gives a damn about us and that everything is all hunky dory in BushWorld.

That's like Bill O'Riellly ($40 million a year) trying to pass himself off as just average folk because he would rather drink coffee than a latte.

That's like multi millionaire Republican lap dog Sean Hannity interviewing multimillionaire goobernator Auh-nold, and telling the rest of us we should learn how to live withing a budget.

And yet these finacial elitists have the nerve to tell us that Bush gives a darn about us and that everything is all hunky dory in BushWorld.

It's about taking the issue of "class" off the table.  Laura Ingraham, a similar Dartmouth alumna swastika girl to Ann Coulter, said bluntly that elitist versus populist has nothing to do with income.  It's all about values and personal tastes.  If you go to Church on Sunday and drink Maxwell House, you're a regular folk.  If you go to the art gallery on Sunday and drink lattes, you're an elitist.
Or as O'Reilly says, "I'm in the working class because I get up in the morning and go to work." 
Hello!  Reality knocking!
The capitalist elites know it is vital for their kleptocratic program to keep the unrich from realizing they're being ripped off and that it is because of the changes in tax structure since Ronald Reagan got elected that is causing the steep decline in the quality of American life.

I thought the only poll that mattered was on November 02, 2004.  ???

The illegal immigration thing is really making me think.


Then why, may I ask do you persist in quoting polls that support your positions (as in the flag buning amendment one) and ignore polls that place you in the minority?  Seems a bit, shall we say, "selective"?

It's about taking the issue of "class" off the table.  Laura Ingraham, a similar Dartmouth alumna swastika girl to Ann Coulter, said bluntly that elitist versus populist has nothing to do with income.  It's all about values and personal tastes.

Which is why you never hear the Republican propogandist (Rush, O'Rielly, Hannity, Coulter, Ingram, etc) talk about economic issues, instead they always talk about social issues. 

Rush and company know the big business, corporate Amercia status quo, is what is lineing their pockets, and keeping their legions in a perpetual state of economic servitude.  Better to change the issue to moral ones and blame all that is wrong in the country on this mythical "liberalism."

The best thing about blaming this all ecompasing liberalism (even though the Republicans controll all branches of government, more and more of the judiciary, most of the governorships, the corpratate media, and Republicans have won 6 of the last 9 presidential elections) is that they can never, ever defeat this so-called liberalism, and can always drag liberalism out as a threat to their personal economic gravy train, even though such threat does not exist from the so-called vague liberalism.

This is why as long as O'Rielly and his cabal keep serving up the non-existent threat of liberalim to their zombie listenters, Bush's ratings will never go lower than 40%.  Welcome to Red State America.

Which is why you never hear the Republican propogandist (Rush, O'Rielly, Hannity, Coulter, Ingram, etc) talk about economic issues, instead they always talk about social issues. 

Rush and company know the big business, corporate Amercia status quo, is what is lineing their pockets, and keeping their legions in a perpetual state of economic servitude.  Better to change the issue to moral ones and blame all that is wrong in the country on this mythical "liberalism."

The best thing about blaming this all ecompasing liberalism (even though the Republicans controll all branches of government, more and more of the judiciary, most of the governorships, the corpratate media, and Republicans have won 6 of the last 9 presidential elections) is that they can never, ever defeat this so-called liberalism, and can always drag liberalism out as a threat to their personal economic gravy train, even though such threat does not exist from the so-called vague liberalism.

This is why as long as O'Rielly and his cabal keep serving up the non-existent threat of liberalim to their zombie listenters, Bush's ratings will never go lower than 40%.  Welcome to Red State America.

Actually, they do talk about economic issues: Rondald Reagan good, Bill Clinton bad.  Tax cut good, tax hike bad.
The only reason Reaganomics caused our national debt to triple is a spendthrift Congress couldn't control itself.  You know, that kind of specious horsepuckey.  All serious economists concluded Supply Side Economics would be an utter fiasco before the Reaganistas even enacted it, and they were right.  The problem is, corporate greed talks and John Kenneth Galbraith walks, in 1981 as today!

http://www.popaganda.com/billboards/images/billboard_oneParty.jpg

They forgot the "C" in theocracy and added an extra "I" in Republicans ;D ;D ;D


Must have been approved by Dan Quayle

http://www.popaganda.com/billboards/images/billboard_oneParty.jpg


If it wasn't so true, I would be laughing.




Cat

And people thought Bush was smarter than Kerry.

And people thought Bush was smarter than Kerry.


isnt this sign mocking republicans?  I mean, it says "For a dissent free theoracy"...I doubt this person was a member of the republican party.