Saturday, May 07, 2005 Boston, Massachusetts White Unity MeetingGathering organized by New England members of White Revolution, a white supremacist group headed by Billy Roper, along with the Connecticut White Wolves, including an open invitation to white supremacists
Note: Billy Roper is scheduled to speak on the topic of “Who Are The Jews?”

I am not an advocate of violence, but there are times when you wish someone would beat the sh*t out of these a$$holes.  Rallies like this have never made it in Massachusetts, but they keep trying. They timed this to coincide with an event at the Holocaust Memorial.  >:(

Saturday, May 07, 2005 Boston, Massachusetts White Unity MeetingGathering organized by New England members of White Revolution, a white supremacist group headed by Billy Roper, along with the Connecticut White Wolves, including an open invitation to white supremacists
Note: Billy Roper is scheduled to speak on the topic of “Who Are The Jews?”

I am not an advocate of violence, but there are times when you wish someone would beat the sh*t out of these a$$holes.  Rallies like this have never made it in Massachusetts, but they keep trying. They timed this to coincide with an event at the Holocaust Memorial.   >:(

DISGUSTING!!!
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I really, really, really wish this abomination would not happen!  As much as I'd like to see these crumbs get their azzes kicked to oblivion, I say the best way for the citizens to handle it is to ignore them.  Don't even protest, don't even give them the finger, don't even acknowledge their presence.  White supremecists thrive on publicity and martyrdom.  A street full of disinterested pedestrians going about their business would take the wind out of their sails.  Unfortunately, I know my old pals from the Progressive Labor Party and the International Committee Against Racism (INCAR) will be there to give 'em hell.  And of course passersby will join in with curses and catcalls.  I just hope violence doesn't erupt because that's exactly what the racists want.  Look at the mileage Ann Coulter got out of just one young man jacking her the bird and shouting obsenities at her on some university campus last week!
::)

So douche bags do have meetings after all!  ::) Hopefully someone put an end to the Ku Klux Klan once and for all. Not suprisingly, they timed this at the same time as the event at the Holocaust Memorial, people like the Klan, make me want to vomit.  ::)

My grandmother told me they used to burn crosses on the lawns of the Irish in the 1920s and 1930s in Massachusetts.  There's always been a little activity around here.  It's just shocking to most people when they show up, because it's so rare they allow themselves to be seen in broad daylight.

Perhaps that's why they demonstrate so rarely, is so it has more shock appeal.  I doubt it will swell their numbers much.  It only takes a dozen or two of these losers to make noise, and they won't find many more people than that to join at any point.

My grandmother told me they used to burn crosses on the lawns of the Irish in the 1920s and 1930s in Massachusetts.  There's always been a little activity around here.  It's just shocking to most people when they show up, because it's so rare they allow themselves to be seen in broad daylight.
You betcha!  When Governor Al Smith (NY) ran president in 1928, the KKK awaited him at every whistle stop, burning crosses and anti-papist rhetoric fired up and ready to go!  That was down South.  It doesn't surprise me that the Massachusetts Klan had a problem with the Irish.  The were Catholics ("papists") and they were still viewed as immigrants, even though the mass migrations of Irish over.  The Irish in the '20s and '30s faced similar prejudice to what Latins face today.  The discrimination was worse because the civil rights movement was decades away.

Perhaps that's why they demonstrate so rarely, is so it has more shock appeal.   I doubt it will swell their numbers much.  It only takes a dozen or two of these losers to make noise, and they won't find many more people than that to join at any point.

You won't see hundreds of Bostonians nodding their heads and saying, "You know, they've got some really valid points!"  It's just an odious and repugnant display of ugliness and I wish it wasn't going to happen.  Funny, I said the same thing last year about the Republican National Convention!
;D

So douche bags do have meetings after all!  ::) Hopefully someone put an end to the Ku Klux Klan once and for all. Not suprisingly, they timed this at the same time as the event at the Holocaust Memorial, people like the Klan, make me want to vomit.  ::)


As bad as their message is, you have to allow them to peacefully assemble and have their free speech rights, see the first amendment to the United States constitution.

My grandmother told me they used to burn crosses on the lawns of the Irish in the 1920s and 1930s in Massachusetts.  There's always been a little activity around here.  It's just shocking to most people when they show up, because it's so rare they allow themselves to be seen in broad daylight.



KKK  is an Acronym for "Kolored, Kikes and Katholics" because they were the ones that they generally
practiced their brand of vigilantism. In the past 25 years they have opened their doors to Katholics, (step children to the pride), I can't imagine any Catholic with any self respect joining. Of course there was a guy in our school who said it stood for "Kool Kolored Kids".  I liked that one better.

As bad as their message is, you have to allow them to peacefully assemble and have their free speech rights, see the first amendment to the United States constitution.

And that's why, as loathsome as it seems, I don't mind tax money going for police to protect these mofos.  If the city says, "We'll protect you, sure, we can spare one crossing guard...but she's old!," and the good citizens take it upon themselves to kick the living crepes out of of the Klan, then the Klan will start supplying its own vigilante goons.  We don't want that, now, do we?  That's how the Nazi SS got started.

Danoota wrote KKK  is an Acronym for "Kolored, Kikes and Katholics" because they were the ones that they generally
practiced their brand of vigilantism. In the past 25 years they have opened their doors to Katholics, (step children to the pride), I can't imagine any Catholic with any self respect joining. Of course there was a guy in our school who said it stood for "Kool Kolored Kids".  I liked that one better.
The name "Ku Klux Klan," as you probably know, is a corruption of the word "Kuklos," Greek for "circle."  I suppose for symmetry they spelled Clan, as in "association," with a K. 
That's why I always looked askance at that chain of convenience stores called the "Circle K"!
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Isn't it ironic how one of the founders of the KKK was named "James Crowe"?  "Crowe" with an "e," and not Jim, but James.  Hmmmm....

The cops, the courts, and the Ku Klux Klan,
All a part of the bosses' plan!
--one of the protest chants my militant leftist friends were fond of.

As bad as their message is, you have to allow them to peacefully assemble and have their free speech rights, see the first amendment to the United States constitution.


Well, at least you agree that their message is "bad".  Unfortunately its worse than bad, since these people advocate hate crimes.  Peacefulling assembling to "petition the government for a redress of gfrievances" is one thing, but advocating race hate and genocide is another.

Isn't it ironic how one of the founders of the KKK was named "James Crowe"?  "Crowe" with an "e," and not Jim, but James.  Hmmmm....



I always thought it was Nathan Bedford Forrest, but I googled and found out something I didn't know. James Crowe , that is Ironic.  ???

Well, at least you agree that their message is "bad".  Unfortunately its worse than bad, since these people advocate hate crimes.  Peacefulling assembling to "petition the government for a redress of gfrievances" is one thing, but advocating race hate and genocide is another.


I'm sorry but the actual constitutional right of free speech trumps the perceived constitutional right to feel comfortable.

They had a "meeting"  in Somerville yesterday to strategize.  Today is the Holocaust Memorial service.  They plan to stand across the street from the services and excersize their right to hate.  They are despicable people with a despicable message.  They have the mentality of 12 year old bullies with big mouths and little brains.

And that's why, as loathsome as it seems, I don't mind tax money going for police to protect these mofos


I agree 100%.  Things like military, police, war on drugs, border patrol, and education deserve more spending.  Things like medicare, medicaid, social security, unemployment, and other social services deserve to be scrapped completely.

They had a "meeting" in Somerville yesterday to strategize. Today is the Holocaust Memorial service. They plan to stand across the street from the services and excersize their right to hate. They are despicable people with a despicable message. They have the mentality of 12 year old bullies with big mouths and little brains.


What a bunch of creeps.  On the bright side, if these people are out demonstrating others can see just who the jerks are. 

What a bunch of creeps.  On the bright side, if these people are out demonstrating others can see just who the jerks are. 


I agree, they are creeps with way too much time on their hands.  ::)

Things like medicare, medicaid, social security, unemployment, and other social services deserve to be scrapped completely.


Say that when you lose your job, buddy.  Or if, God forbid, someone in your family becomes seriously ill and even if you have half a mill stashed away it goes on medical treatment. 

Go ahead, explain to me how that could "never happen to you."  I can't wait.

And FYI, in case you write me off as some "flaky lib," I voted for Rudy Giuliani, and back in my home state of CT I'm behind Republican governor Jodi Rell 100%.

I'm sorry but the actual constitutional right of free speech trumps the perceived constitutional right to feel comfortable.


Really?  Would you feel the same way if a gay pride march was held on your Main Street?

Go ahead, explain to me how that could "never happen to you."  I can't wait.


It could happen to me, but it wouldn't be the government's and the American taxpayer's responsibility to bail me out.  That would infringe on economic freedom.

Would you feel the same way if a gay pride march was held on your Main Street?

As stupid as those "gay pride" parades seem, I do think they have the right to exist as long as they remain peaceful.  Only if they riot should they be dispersed.

It's silly for people to speak in vague general terms about the "constitutional right of free speech" as though it does or should encompass every kind of speech.

I wonder how many similarly-minded 'conservatives' would speak in the same calm objective tone about the rights of "free spech" and "peaceful assembly" if instead of the KKK, it were some group known to advocate and execute acts of violence against white Christian heterosexuals.

It's silly for people to speak in vague general terms about the "constitutional right of free speech" as though it does or should encompass every kind of speech.



Obviously the first amendment right to free speech doesn't extend to death threats, but it does allow ANY group the right to peacefully assemble and say whatever they want.

I'm sorry but the actual constitutional right of free speech trumps the perceived constitutional right to feel comfortable.



Obviously the first amendment right to free speech doesn't extend to death threats, but it does allow ANY group the right to peacefully assemble and say whatever they want.


It has nothing to do with the non-existant "right to feel comfortable".  The gaurantee of free speach is not absolute, nor is the freedom of assembly, nor is any right.  Insighting to riot, or to commit crimes are not protected, as you well know.  Advocating the violent overthrow of the government is not protected by free speech, nor is advocating genocide.  You seem to want to cut a lot of slack to right wing extremist though.

I agree 100%.  Things like military, police, war on drugs, border patrol, and education deserve more spending.  Things like medicare, medicaid, social security, unemployment, and other social services deserve to be scrapped completely.


Oh Brave New World, neocon fashion.  You must be an afficionado of Ayn Rand.

Idiots

Idiots


Yes, they are idiots!  But let them rant.  They only embarass themselves.

I agree 100%.  Things like military, police, war on drugs, border patrol, and education deserve more spending.  Things like medicare, medicaid, social security, unemployment, and other social services deserve to be scrapped completely.

Pretty whacky there G!  You and Ann Coulter go together like peas in a pod, but she would say the government ought to get out funding education altogether, except for what profits military contractors and multinational corporations.
The best way to revive the socialist movement is to rollback the social contract to 1900.  Your priorities are the priorities Bush and his friends wish they could strive for with full force.  If they had their way, American cities would like like Sao Paolo and Mexico City!
:D

Obviously the first amendment right to free speech doesn't extend to death threats, but it does allow ANY group the right to peacefully assemble and say whatever they want.


Yes, but for them to choose to protest a memorial to holocaust victims on the same day at the same time
in the same place as the service to remember the same is at the very least antagonistic.  When you consider that there are people attending who lived through the holocaust, and lost family members in a most brutal way, is unconscionable. Imho it attains the level of "fighting words".  I am anxious to see what happened.  I do hope the people at the memorial were able to maintain their composure, I'm not so sure I would have.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/05/08/two_arrested_at_holocaust_commemoration_marred_by_protests/

ha, they couldn't even find local nimrods, they had to import them from well out of state.

I'm tired of wasting brain energy on people like that. Then again I would love to see the KKK have one of their rallies in Manhattan, that'd be some good entertainment.

whatever ::)

I'm tired of wasting brain energy on people like that. Then again I would love to see the KKK have one of their rallies in Manhattan, that'd be some good entertainment.

whatever ::)

I say let 'em march in full regalia down 125th Street!
8)

Its hard to support the "First ammendment rights" of supporters of an ideology that essentially wants to destroy those vary same rights.

Its hard to support the "First ammendment rights" of supporters of an ideology that essentially wants to destroy those vary same rights.

Tell it to the Bush Administration, friend!
::)

I'm tired of wasting brain energy on people like that. Then again I would love to see the KKK have one of their rallies in Manhattan, that'd be some good entertainment.

whatever ::)


In part I agree.  These idiots aren't worth the effort.  On the other hand, all the it required for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

Hopefully they are on the road back to Arkansas.  For every one of them(about 20, all out of staters), there were 10 locals to tell them they were not wanted.  They were actually gone before the people who attended the service at Fanueil Hall arrived at the sight of the memorial, so that they, some were holocaust survivors, weren't subjected to their...insensitivity.... 

In part I agree.  These idiots aren't worth the effort.  On the other hand, all the it required for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.


True.  In a perverse way, it's useful to have blatant wake-up calls like these as an opportunity for each of us to test the courage of our moral convictions. 

It can be so easy for us all to arrogantly look back and say if "If I'd been a German citizen in the 40's... If I'd been around when Bull Connor and his boys were pulling that nonsense down South... I wouldn't have stood quietly and let them get away with it, I would've...".

Ok, let's see.

True.  In a perverse way, it's useful to have blatant wake-up calls like these as an opportunity for each of us to test the courage of our moral convictions. 

It can be so easy for us all to arrogantly look back and say if "If I'd been a German citizen in the 40's... If I'd been around when Bull Connor and his boys were pulling that nonsense down South... I wouldn't have stood quietly and let them get away with it, I would've...".

Ok, let's see.


I attended several anti-war demos in the 60's, and participated in (actually organized) a bit of "guerrilla warfare" that got several realestate agents in Newark N.J. both fines and de-licenced (they were red lining and we proved it).  Cat's philosophy," Do what you will, harm none" is fine, as far as it goes, but I would add "Do what you can to (quoting H.L. Menkin) "comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable".  Justice, like freedom needs to be constantly defended by all of us.