I say 1993 with the first Michael Jackson trial, the (1992) Rodney King beatings, and MTV show explosion.  But 2001 and 9/11 magnified the rules.

Definitely in the 90s!

Tanya

What rules are you talking about?

What rules are you talking about?


Like for TV, how to behave, the government, our law system.  They have changed a lot in the past 20 years.

Like for TV, how to behave, the government, our law system.  They have changed a lot in the past 20 years.




The change is constant -- you couldn't show married couples sharing a bed in the 50's or even say the word 'pregnant' on the air.  When they started saying 'bitch' and 'ass' on prime time TV in the 80s, it was revolutionary.  Now it's business as usual.

The change is constant -- you couldn't show married couples sharing a bed in the 50's or even say the word 'pregnant' on the air.  When they started saying 'b*tc*' and 'a**' on prime time TV in the 80s, it was revolutionary.  Now it's business as usual.


This is absolutely right.  Standards of acceptibility are in a consatant state of flux, and I think that's a good thing.  Some may see it as a deterioration of moral values, at least in part, but I see it as both a growth in sensitivity to diversity and a growing openness to the expression of the full range of human emotions.  Lee is right, you couldn't show married couples in the same bed in the 50's (so where did all us baby boomers come from?  ;)) but now, at least on cable/dish, you can see soft porn.

Like for TV, how to behave, the government, our law system.  They have changed a lot in the past 20 years.




Political Correctness is not a law, if it was it would be unconstitutional. It's just a policy of the media in order to try to make everybody happy. If something is offensive to somebody, they complain about it, and then it gets on the news, then out of not wanting to look "bad" the network (or individual) involved says sorry to try to make everybody happy.

PC is passe.  The rightwingers still use it as the ubiquitous bogeyman, but that's about it.  I mean, there are still phenomena on college campuses one would recognize as "political correctness," but the term itself has been nothing more than a pejorative for nearly fifteen years now.

Incidentally, I was never a "politically correct" person.  I always found the whole thing Stalinist.

The change is constant -- you couldn't show married couples sharing a bed in the 50's or even say the word 'pregnant' on the air.  When they started saying 'b*tc*' and 'a**' on prime time TV in the 80s, it was revolutionary.  Now it's business as usual.


Shows where our culture has gone.

PC is passe.  The rightwingers still use it as the ubiquitous bogeyman, but that's about it.  I mean, there are still phenomena on college campuses one would recognize as "political correctness," but the term itself has been nothing more than a pejorative for nearly fifteen years now.

Incidentally, I was never a "politically correct" person.  I always found the whole thing Stalinist.


I agree with you 100% on that.

I agree with you 100% on that.

Well, Uncle Joe coined the term "Politcally Correct."  The Soviets loved that kind of sloganeering.
I distinctly remember my sister and me arguing about it in 1990.  She declared, "well, the more you know about some one, the less likely you  are to say something rude about them!"
Ah, but PC is not about "knowing" others.  I go back to something I said about Christian Fundamentalism...PC is about monitoring behavior and passing judgement.
Like I told my sister, the very term "Politically Correct" is absolutist.  It declares "there is but one correct point of view, one correct list of classifications, and we have it and we will teach it to you whether you like it or not!  Any sensible person is going to resent that kind of attitude, and the ones that like it, I feel sorry for 'em.
No matter how fringe left I got when I was a kid, I always hated the idea of restriction of speech from any angle!

Shows where our culture has gone.


And I guess you were concived by immaculate conception while your parants slept in sperate beds?  Why can't we recognize and revel  in our sexuality?  Or do you consider sex "dirty"?

And I guess you were concived by immaculate conception while your parants slept in sperate beds?  Why can't we recognize and revel  in our sexuality?  Or do you consider sex "dirty"?

Sex is a double-edged sword.  Revelling in it can be just as destructive as suppressing it. 

Sex is a double-edged sword.  Revelling in it can be just as destructive as suppressing it. 


Good observation, Max. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Tanya

Well, Uncle Joe coined the term "Politcally Correct."  The Soviets loved that kind of sloganeering.
I distinctly remember my sister and me arguing about it in 1990.  She declared, "well, the more you know about some one, the less likely you  are to say something rude about them!"
Ah, but PC is not about "knowing" others.  I go back to something I said about Christian Fundamentalism...PC is about monitoring behavior and passing judgement.
Like I told my sister, the very term "Politically Correct" is absolutist.  It declares "there is but one correct point of view, one correct list of classifications, and we have it and we will teach it to you whether you like it or not!  Any sensible person is going to resent that kind of attitude, and the ones that like it, I feel sorry for 'em.
No matter how fringe left I got when I was a kid, I always hated the idea of restriction of speech from any angle!



Did you vote 1990 for the change? I'd say it started about then but is way worse now than ever. 1993 was my start date.

Sex is a double-edged sword.  Revelling in it can be just as destructive as suppressing it. 


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Monogamy:$0
Revelling to your heart's content:Priceless

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What do you make of "revelling" here?

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Main Entry: 1rev·el
Pronunciation: 're-v&l
Function: intransitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -eled or -elled; -el·ing or rev·el·ling  /'re-v&-li, 'rev-li/
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French reveler, literally, to rebel, from Latin rebellare
1 : to take part in a revel : CAROUSE
2 : to take intense pleasure or satisfaction   



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