Hey, anyone hear how they are trying to not hire people who smoke at certain companies-mainly due to the medical insurance involved. News onWarner Bros. news channel mentioned how they are giving drug tests for nicotine to the workers and lie detector tests to applicants to make sure they are not a smoker in order to be hired!

Wow! No getting around this one! :o 

Hey, anyone hear how they are trying to not hire people who smoke at certain companies-mainly due to the medical insurance involved. News onWarner Bros. news channel mentioned how they are giving drug tests for nicotine to the workers and lie detector tests to applicants to make sure they are not a smoker in order to be hired!

Wow! No getting around this one! :o 


Sounds like discriminatrion to me, as I light up.  As long as tobacco is legal, seems to me that descriminating agains smokers like this is simply that, discrimination.  How can one be punished for doing a legal thing?  Not only am I lighting up, I'm sipping a rum.  Good God, aren't the sin taxes we pay enough?

Sounds like discriminatrion to me, as I light up.  As long as tobacco is legal, seems to me that descriminating agains smokers like this is simply that, discrimination.  How can one be punished for doing a legal thing?  Not only am I lighting up, I'm sipping a rum.  Good God, aren't the sin taxes we pay enough?


I don't know why they don't just charge different insurance rates for people based on individual health risks -- that makes more sense...

I agree...life insurance costs more if you're a smoker, why not medical as well?


Yep, I should pay far less than a Type-A Fortune-500 CEO who smokes, drinks and sleeps around...
and I should pay a bit more than a Mormon vegan.

8)

It's legal but so many smokers don't give a flying cigarette butt about anybody else. Blow your damn second hand smoke away from me and clean up after yourselves. Sounds like there's a huge lack of compassion for others from most smokers >:(

Corporations are generally evil, insurance companies are generally evil.  Two negatives make a negative.  They  came for pot smokers yesterday, cigarette smokers today, tomorrow it will be beer drinkers, and the next day it will be Twinkie eaters. 
Remember, this isn't the big bad government, this is the reaction of greedy private businesses to the action of greedy private insurance firms!
Again, I quote Chris Rock, "I'm tired of this sh*t, tired, tired, tired!"
::)

Coming from a non-smoker myself, who thinks that smoking is a stupid disgusting habit, I actually think that's rather harsh and unfair. I guess part of the major reason for why I feel this way, is that nobody trusts one another anymore, and now we have to take ridiculous tests to prove we're not lying!!  What next, blood tests to reveal alcohol abuse during the hiring process?! I think that all these screenings and security checks in this society are backfiring, and are making us more defensive and angry because just think of it as being in a marriage where there is no trust.

Don't look to the Justice Department to help.  As much as some people hate the ACLU, they may be
your only line of defense.

Don't look to the Justice Department to help.  As much as some people hate the ACLU, they may be
your only line of defense.



I'm surprised at that. I thought tabacco companies were still in Washington's back pocket (or is it Washington is in the tabacco companies' back pocket?).




Cat

It's legal but so many smokers don't give a flying cigarette butt about anybody else. Blow your darn second hand smoke away from me and clean up after yourselves. Sounds like there's a huge lack of compassion for others from most smokers >:(


Most?  You may be right, but at least some of are more than conciderate.  For example, Cat and I "fumigate" our house and smoke outside when non-smakeers visit.

I don't know why they don't just charge different insurance rates for people based on individual health risks -- that makes more sense...
I thought that a lot of insurance companies already did that.