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Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Reynolds1863 on 11/09/08 at 3:55 pm
http://media.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2004/jan/smoking/peter140.jpg
was it good for you?
Why does he remind me of Napoleon Dynamite's brother? :-\\
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/09/08 at 3:59 pm
Don't be jealous because I've been chatting online with chicks all day.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Reynolds1863 on 11/09/08 at 4:03 pm
Vote for Pedro!!!! :)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/09/08 at 4:28 pm
Don't be jealous because I've been chatting online with chicks all day.
I love how you two foreplay online - your "activity" at home must be stupendous!!! :D :D :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/09/08 at 4:57 pm
I love how you two foreplay online - your "activity" at home must be stupendous!!! :D :D :D
Wait, who's the other one? ??? :o
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/09/08 at 5:25 pm
http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/fail-owned-chick-sexism-sensitivity-fail.jpg
Headline WIN.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/09/08 at 10:47 pm
Whee!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: greenjello74 on 11/09/08 at 10:49 pm
Kittys are crawling all over hubby and he complains that he never gets enough.....
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/09/08 at 11:04 pm
Kittys are crawling all over hubby and he complains that he never gets enough.....
Would you describe this situation as "drowning in p***y"?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/10/08 at 2:46 am
If I had something to say to President George W. Bush before Barack Obama takes his place in the Oval Office, it would be "OK, Georgie, you've had 8 years in this little elliptical room as the tyrannical leader of the United States of America, and you have made the whole world hate our country's collective guts, so now it's time to eat crow!" I am very glad that Obama is now president, and I believe that if Martin Luther King, Jr. were alive today, he would be ecstatic and jubilant in more ways than anyone can imagine. :) :D :)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Reynolds1863 on 11/10/08 at 6:00 am
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo154/apeyketewa/bush_doofus.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 9:27 am
Damage to the base is said to be heavy and the Israeli jets are reported to have made it back to their headquarters.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 9:46 am
83 more posts in here 'til 39,000! :o
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 9:47 am
Hmmm...I wonder if we could pull that off today...
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 9:47 am
*scratches chin and contemplates while typing with the other hand*
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 9:47 am
80 more!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/10/08 at 10:11 am
83 more posts in here 'til 39,000! :o
It's possible
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/10/08 at 11:29 am
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lezliemac/mullet/nomullets.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/10/08 at 11:30 am
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc210/devilrabbit66616/Insperasion/MULLET.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 11:39 am
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lezliemac/mullet/nomullets.jpg
Men Without Mullets? :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/10/08 at 11:43 am
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r56/TaiyouTatsu/De-Motivational%20Posters/moz1.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/10/08 at 11:50 am
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh3/xXxHatboyxXx/NewBitmapImage5.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/10/08 at 11:53 am
http://www.glasbergen.com/images/cat_cartoon.gif
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/10/08 at 11:53 am
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1802/imagept5.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/10/08 at 11:57 am
^ & ^^ ;D
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/Neiliomedeilio/De-motivational%20posters/lolchair.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/10/08 at 11:58 am
http://static.dropline.net/cats/images/Muffin-cat.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/10/08 at 12:00 pm
http://www.knitemare.org/cats/shaved20cat.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/10/08 at 12:02 pm
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/NIM/PL132~Cat-and-Mouse-Posters.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/10/08 at 12:03 pm
http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/cats_sleeping_positions.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/10/08 at 12:04 pm
Now I feel like a postwhore because I could have put all those pics in one dang post!!!
Ah well, LTE Baby!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/10/08 at 12:05 pm
Now I feel like a postwhore because I could have put all those pics in one dang post!!!
Ah well, LTE Baby!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/pyzamattwhore.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/10/08 at 12:06 pm
^ hahahahha!!! If the shoe fits! ;)
http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Stupid%20Haircut.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/10/08 at 12:12 pm
^ hahahahha!!! If the shoe fits! ;)
http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Stupid%20Haircut.jpg
WTF?!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/10/08 at 12:16 pm
WTF?!
Tell me about it! ;D At least it isn't a mullet...?? 8-P
http://www.t-shirtmojo.com/Images/4639/22X28.gif
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/10/08 at 12:19 pm
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/Neiliomedeilio/De-motivational%20posters/hitler.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/10/08 at 12:25 pm
^somehow i see davey thrashmister's influence behind this.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 12:39 pm
Now I feel like a postwhore because I could have put all those pics in one dang post!!!
Ah well, LTE Baby!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Viva LTE!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 12:40 pm
Sweet. 58 more posts to go!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 12:40 pm
LTE is much easier for all to find now that it's stickied in WoW. :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/10/08 at 12:47 pm
LTE is much easier for all to find now that it's stickied in WoW. :D
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/3/1/1/311d22395f78bb5c80b1ee06533d21cb.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/10/08 at 1:54 pm
Business in front, party in back...
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lezliemac/mullet/nomullets.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/10/08 at 2:04 pm
My daughter learnt a song at school camp the other week about making your hair into a mullet. Except she thought it was mullak or maybe mollusc! :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/10/08 at 2:38 pm
Finally found an old thread I've spent two days looking for. Now I can get back to my life!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 3:04 pm
Finally found an old thread I've spent two days looking for. Now I can get back to my life!
I still haven't found what I'm looking for.
Just kiddin' :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/10/08 at 4:40 pm
http://joshreads.com/images/08/11/i081109maryworth.jpg
weeks now we’ve been watching the slow-motion buildup in this storyline, seeing Frank berate his sad sub-Olympic-level daughter, and wondering “When? When will the meddling begin? For the love of God, when?” Today, my friends … today is the day that the meddling begins. In the final panel, you can get a sense of the terrible wrath about to be unleashed as Mary’s face turns unnaturally blue and yellow and radiates pure meddling-energy. Her awesome and horrifying third eye is also beginning to become visible.
By the way, Frank, in case you’re wondering, it was the phrase “Mary, don’t interfere!” that sealed your fate. You may as well have danced in front of a lion shouting “Lion, don’t chew off my genitals!” while wearing underwear made of raw meat."
http://joshreads.com/?p=1783
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Dagwood on 11/10/08 at 4:43 pm
By the way, Frank, in case you’re wondering, it was the phrase “Mary, don’t interfere!” that sealed your fate. You may as well have danced in front of a lion shouting “Lion, don’t chew off my genitals!” while wearing underwear made of raw meat."
Laughed my ass off at that one. ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Dagwood on 11/10/08 at 4:43 pm
38951, BTW
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/10/08 at 5:19 pm
38952
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 5:25 pm
47 mo' to go!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/10/08 at 5:28 pm
This thread was destined to be popular; I don't care who started it. And it is very popular today! :)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/10/08 at 5:33 pm
When I was looking for the forum quote of the day thread I looked through Howard's posts. It was amazing how much he used to post in this thread a couple of years ago.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/10/08 at 5:41 pm
When I was looking for the forum quote of the day thread I looked through Howard's posts. It was amazing how much he used to post in this thread a couple of years ago.
He's been influenced by the enemies now! ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/10/08 at 6:10 pm
Another thread I read was about a large thread being deleted and people panicking about this thread being deleted also. And that was two or three years ago. Still the LTE keeps going
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/10/08 at 6:56 pm
This urinal must belong in the same bathroom as Al-B's toilet! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
http://www.moeys.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/uri.jpg
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/10/08 at 7:40 pm
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc210/devilrabbit66616/Insperasion/MULLET.jpg
What are the two states in which mullet hairstyles on children are not considered to be child abuse? I would like to know! ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/10/08 at 7:58 pm
I think it's Arkansas and Oregon
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/10/08 at 8:01 pm
I think it's Arkansas and Oregon
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D LMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/10/08 at 8:03 pm
I think it's Arkansas and Oregon
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/10/08 at 8:25 pm
Forgot the post??? ;)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/10/08 at 8:30 pm
Forgot the post??? ;)
I think that my post could have gotten deleted when another post came in. I don't know how that could have happened, but I have never seen anyone in Arkansas who was not from out of state with a mullet, and I have seen very few people under the approximate age of 18 with a mullet in Oregon. :)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/10/08 at 11:05 pm
He's been influenced by the enemies now! ;D
Perhaps. Although a lot of the posts was stuff about Pathmark that he now has his own thread for. :-\\
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/10/08 at 11:09 pm
This thread was destined to be popular; I don't care who started it. And it is very popular today! :)
Who started it?
Check the first post again my friend!!! ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/10/08 at 11:14 pm
Who started it?
Check the first post again my friend!!! ;D ;D ;D
Bet you I can guess, without even looking.... ;) ;) ;)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/10/08 at 11:16 pm
Bet you I can guess, without even looking.... ;) ;) ;)
Err uh maybe I can't :-\\ :-\\ :-\\
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/10/08 at 11:16 pm
This urinal must belong in the same bathroom as Al-B's toilet! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
http://www.moeys.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/uri.jpg
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I am guessing that this photo was taken in the men's restroom in a strip joint? ???
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/10/08 at 11:19 pm
Err uh maybe I can't :-\\ :-\\ :-\\
It's all good Girl.... NO ONE saw that coming! ;) ;D 8)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/10/08 at 11:34 pm
Longest bullsh*t ever....
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/10/08 at 11:36 pm
^ but did ya see who created the thread?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/10/08 at 11:39 pm
^ but did ya see who created the thread?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! ;D
That totally made my night. :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Step-chan on 11/10/08 at 11:59 pm
Hocus Pocus!
Step-chan turns into Sabrina the skunk
Oops!
That's what I get for casting a magic spell with random effects.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:11 am
^ but did ya see who created the thread?
We're AWESOME!
Many karamel to Tam! :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:13 am
24 more to go!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:13 am
23
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:13 am
22
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:14 am
Ah, to be 21 again.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:15 am
I AM THE CREATOR!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Dagwood on 11/11/08 at 9:16 am
38981
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:19 am
ooo! ooo! it's almost a new year!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/11/08 at 9:22 am
ooo! ooo! it's almost a new year!
Where what how?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:27 am
16!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:28 am
The renamed creators of this thread all de-leeted themselves at one time or another, so it looks legit :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:29 am
14 more! HOO HOO HOO!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:29 am
And now, 2300 postses for me. :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:46 am
harder
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:46 am
faster
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:46 am
juicier
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:46 am
almsot there!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:47 am
just hold them off
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:47 am
a few
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:47 am
more
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:47 am
seconds
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:48 am
http://www.18to88.com/images/porkins.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:48 am
and now
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:48 am
i can
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:48 am
announce
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:49 am
post 39000!!!!!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/11/08 at 9:50 am
Question is who will post the 39000 message
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Tia obviously ::)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 9:54 am
Question is who will post the 39000 message
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Tia obviously ::)
ha! you too slow! :P
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/11/08 at 9:58 am
ha! you too slow! :P
carp you bass trud
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 12:12 pm
Meet your new neighbor, Hoo Flung Dung!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 12:13 pm
:P :D :P
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 12:14 pm
BULLSH*T
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 12:17 pm
Awww, now we're gonna get reported by n00bz :(
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 12:18 pm
Awww, now we're gonna get reported by n00bz :(
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/LOLdog/noob.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 1:51 pm
Awww, now we're gonna get reported by n00bz :(
For what? Did I miss something? Besides the r0xx0rs 39,000th post in LTE, that is.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 1:53 pm
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/LOLdog/funny-dog-pictures-invisible-dj-ses.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 1:55 pm
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/LOLdog/noob.jpg
This pic cracks me up. ;D
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/LOLdog/funny-dog-pictures-invisible-dj-ses.jpg
This too. ;D ;D
C'mon! Only 989 more posts 'til 40,000! :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 1:56 pm
989, is that all? :P
Alrighty then...
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/11/08 at 2:06 pm
We should get Howard back in here.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 2:22 pm
We should get Howard back in here.
Is he Anti-LTE?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 2:23 pm
I think Howard forgot he can post here :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/11/08 at 2:32 pm
I think Howard forgot he can post here :D
I think you might be right
I'd even let him ask where Bobby is if he wants to
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 2:50 pm
Bobby is probably where he always was, just not here :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 2:51 pm
982, yeah we do!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 2:54 pm
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/LOLcats/AttentionWhore2.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 2:55 pm
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/LOLcats/fullspeed-1.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 2:57 pm
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/LOLcats/lovethread.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 3:01 pm
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/funny-pictures-farmer-cat-thinks-back-on-the-old-days.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 3:05 pm
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh315/THEDecepticon/lolcats/Scienide1.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/11/08 at 3:12 pm
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/insanokitten/rabbit.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 3:27 pm
I think you might be right
I'd even let him ask where Bobby is if he wants to
...but what if he leaves his friends behind?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 3:29 pm
http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo76/zombie-heart/lol-cats/cwned.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/11/08 at 3:30 pm
...but what if he leaves his friends behind?
'Cause his friends don't dance and if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine
or something
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 3:40 pm
http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/leave.gif
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 3:49 pm
Everyone is crazy! ;D
Howard
Long live Howard.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 3:52 pm
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/mcbotulism/LULZ/turdcat.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 3:57 pm
what about carpcat? can he be flushed?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 4:02 pm
what about carpcat? can he be flushed?
Only if he's dead. :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 4:24 pm
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e195/harveydin/lolcats/skelupinhere.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 4:28 pm
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i199/sirbutlust/jacklol.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 4:30 pm
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u150/gothariel/lolcats/adopted.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 4:31 pm
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e195/harveydin/lolcats/skelupinhere.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk135/son_of_sniglet/LOLcats/lolcat_moderatorkitteh.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: CatwomanofV on 11/11/08 at 4:41 pm
Can anyone tell me where Bobby is?
Cat
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 4:45 pm
Can anyone tell me where Bobby is?
Cat
Ummm....karen might be able to. ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/11/08 at 4:49 pm
<steam>
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: CatwomanofV on 11/11/08 at 4:52 pm
<steam>
Just teasing. ;D ;D
Karma.
Cat
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Dagwood on 11/11/08 at 5:41 pm
Can anyone tell me where Bobby is?
Cat
Karma!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 6:53 pm
In today's story, I am taken back to my days in North Carolina when my friends came down to visit. We went to Myrtle Beach where I got hopelessly sloshed and then we started launching fireworks into the Atlantic Ocean. At some point a policeman came down to yell at us and tell us to stop shooting off our flamethrower, although the flamethrower was actually a potato cannon. My friend was actually blowing fireballs by spitting paraffin oil into a Zippo lighter.
When we got home, we shot off the potato cannon some more and someone got mad and called the police. I was going to stay put but everyone ran, so I ran too. When I saw a flashlight shine on the back of the friend in front of me, I darted in another direction and hid in the woods. Later I found out that one friend had torn down a barbed wire fence and scratched himself pretty badly, while another got his leg almost sliced open by the same fence. All in all, an awesome weekend, considering none of us were arrested :D
Unlike other posters, I actually told a true story.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 6:54 pm
In today's story, I am taken back to my days in North Carolina when my friends came down to visit. We went to Myrtle Beach where I got hopelessly sloshed and then we started launching fireworks into the Atlantic Ocean. At some point a policeman came down to yell at us and tell us to stop shooting off our flamethrower, although the flamethrower was actually a potato cannon. My friend was actually blowing fireballs by spitting paraffin oil into a Zippo lighter.
When we got home, we shot off the potato cannon some more and someone got mad and called the police. I was going to stay put but everyone ran, so I ran too. When I saw a flashlight shine on the back of the friend in front of me, I darted in another direction and hid in the woods. Later I found out that one friend had torn down a barbed wire fence and scratched himself pretty badly, while another got his leg almost sliced open by the same fence. All in all, an awesome weekend, considering none of us were arrested :D
Unlike other posters, I actually told a true story.
It's a true story. I have confirmed it with other people involved and we have photographic evidence. :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 6:55 pm
Did you like the part where I didn't have to make sh!t up to fit in?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/11/08 at 6:58 pm
Did you like the part where I didn't have to make sh!t up to fit in?
Yes. :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/11/08 at 7:55 pm
Today was pretty eventful.
I woke up
I went pee
I watched some tv
I drank some pepsi
I went pee
I took a shower
I got dressed
I went pee
I brushed my teeth
I left the house
I went to the mall
I went pee
I went to Target
I went pee
I went to a friends place
I went to walmart
I went to the px
I went home
I went pee
Now I am sitting here thinking about going pee.
True story
;D ;D ;D ;D
Anyone know where Bobby is??!!??!!
8) ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/11/08 at 7:56 pm
I'll take my ball home
>:(
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:27 pm
Today was pretty eventful.
I woke up
I went pee
I watched some tv
I drank some pepsi
I went pee
I took a shower
I got dressed
I went pee
I brushed my teeth
I left the house
I went to the mall
I went pee
I went to Target
I went pee
I went to a friends place
I went to walmart
I went to the px
I went home
I went pee
Now I am sitting here thinking about going pee.
True story
;D ;D ;D ;D
Anyone know where Bobby is??!!??!!
8) ;D
Where's the part about consuming large amounts of alcohol? ??? That's my favourite part.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 9:41 pm
I'll take my ball home
>:(
What ball?
951 left to goooooooooooooooooooooooo :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/11/08 at 9:43 pm
Figure of speech
perhaps I'll pout instead
http://perso.orange.fr/david.silpa/images/little%20girl%20with%20pout.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/11/08 at 10:01 pm
Figure of speech
perhaps I'll pout instead
http://perso.orange.fr/david.silpa/images/little%20girl%20with%20pout.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/djmidas96/poor_baby.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Reynolds1863 on 11/11/08 at 10:26 pm
Figure of speech
perhaps I'll pout instead
http://perso.orange.fr/david.silpa/images/little%20girl%20with%20pout.jpg
Not only are you pouting but look what you did to that poor kid's bike. :\'(
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 10:48 pm
Where's the part about consuming large amounts of alcohol? ??? That's my favourite part.
Tam must value her liver.
But boy she pees a lot.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/11/08 at 11:26 pm
Tam must value her liver.
if it gets all fudged up, can't ya buy another one?
i thought i saw that on the news. sheesh, i sure hope so.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/11/08 at 11:57 pm
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/political-pictures-kids-proud.jpg
I just like this picture.
Harmony WIN.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 1:55 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Obama-playing-ball-on-Election-Day?urn=nba,121344
Prez-elect's got some mad skillz.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/12/08 at 2:01 am
Tam must value her liver.
But boy she pees a lot.
I once heard that one can live with half a liver. If Tam decides to take up drinking booze to the tune of 2 cases of beer and a 750-milliliter bottle of 100-proof hard liquor every day, or more than that, and her liver goes out, I will sell her half of mine for $100 billion US. ;)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 2:21 am
I once heard that one can live with half a liver. If Tam decides to take up drinking booze to the tune of 2 cases of beer and a 750-milliliter bottle of 100-proof hard liquor every day, or more than that, and her liver goes out, I will sell her half of mine for $100 billion US. ;)
If your stories are true, then I doubt your liver would be viable.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 2:22 am
I like chicken
I like liver
Meow Mix Meow Mix
Please deliver
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 11/12/08 at 2:45 am
I once heard that one can live with half a liver. If Tam decides to take up drinking booze to the tune of 2 cases of beer and a 750-milliliter bottle of 100-proof hard liquor every day, or more than that, and her liver goes out, I will sell her half of mine for $100 billion US. ;)
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S020ojiRpJ1kUAd9ujzbkF/SIG=127el1a5d/EXP=1226562211/**http%3A//www.minyanville.com/assets/Image/mickeys.jpg
I'm sure you've a few too many Mickey's Big Mouth malt liquor, so unfortunately, your liver would not be accepted, even as a donor.
my friend had a liver transplant last year and 3 family members all offered half of their livers and all 3 were REJECTED due to massive alcohol consumption. :o
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 8:03 am
If your stories are true, then I doubt your liver would be viable.
Owe you some more Karma!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Midas on 11/12/08 at 10:21 am
938! Woohoo!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: CatwomanofV on 11/12/08 at 1:57 pm
I used to live this guy who was dealing coke & marijuana for a short period of time. He used my red 1987 Nissan Sentra to drove down to the projects in Hartford, Conn to score. We were waiting in a parking lot for our "contact" and we were told that there was a drive-by shooting that took place in that same parking lot the week before. One time on our way home, we had a bag full of marijuana and he was stopped for speeding. Here we had a bag full sitting at my feet & we were also sitting in MY car.
Cat
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: thereshegoes on 11/12/08 at 2:19 pm
I used to live this guy who was dealing coke & marijuana for a short period of time. He used my red 1987 Nissan Sentra to drove down to the projects in Hartford, Conn to score. We were waiting in a parking lot for our "contact" and we were told that there was a drive-by shooting that took place in that same parking lot the week before. One time on our way home, we had a bag full of marijuana and he was stopped for speeding. Here we had a bag full sitting at my feet & we were also sitting in MY car.
Cat
I'm going to report this post. Drugs are evil and children might be reading this.
Bad kitty >:(
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Ashkicksass on 11/12/08 at 4:30 pm
In today's story, I am taken back to my days in North Carolina when my friends came down to visit. We went to Myrtle Beach where I got hopelessly sloshed and then we started launching fireworks into the Atlantic Ocean. At some point a policeman came down to yell at us and tell us to stop shooting off our flamethrower, although the flamethrower was actually a potato cannon. My friend was actually blowing fireballs by spitting paraffin oil into a Zippo lighter.
When we got home, we shot off the potato cannon some more and someone got mad and called the police. I was going to stay put but everyone ran, so I ran too. When I saw a flashlight shine on the back of the friend in front of me, I darted in another direction and hid in the woods. Later I found out that one friend had torn down a barbed wire fence and scratched himself pretty badly, while another got his leg almost sliced open by the same fence. All in all, an awesome weekend, considering none of us were arrested :D
Unlike other posters, I actually told a true story.
What's a potato cannon?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 5:13 pm
http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/dyslexic.gif
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 5:14 pm
What's a potato cannon?
http://www.spudtech.com/
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Dagwood on 11/12/08 at 5:33 pm
http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/population.gif
So true, so true.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/12/08 at 7:42 pm
If your stories are true, then I doubt your liver would be viable.
Jessica, my stories are absolutely true, and although I drink a lot (some say too much), I frankly have no idea about the condition of my liver. If you really want to find out, you can cut me open and see for yourself, but you would have to bring your own anesthetic and figure out how to do it without making me bleed to death. BTW, I live in Western Oregon, somewhere between Portland and Klamath Falls, and my house is a yellow split-level with a partially grown-in lawn and an ugly car and even uglier truck in the driveway, downhill and about 1/4 mile north of a major thoroughfare and very close to Interstate 5. You can't miss it. ;)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 8:07 pm
Such self-destructive behavior... *shakes head*
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 8:09 pm
Jessica, my stories are absolutely true, and although I drink a lot (some say too much), I frankly have no idea about the condition of my liver. If you really want to find out, you can cut me open and see for yourself, but you would have to bring your own anesthetic and figure out how to do it without making me bleed to death. BTW, I live in Western Oregon, somewhere between Portland and Klamath Falls, and my house is a yellow split-level with a partially grown-in lawn and an ugly car and even uglier truck in the driveway, downhill and about 1/4 mile north of a major thoroughfare and very close to Interstate 5. You can't miss it. ;)
Should I get my immunizations updated before I come out there?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 8:10 pm
Should I get my immunizations updated before I come out there?
With the amount she claims to drink, she's probably completely sterile (in more ways than one) :o
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 8:13 pm
With the amount she claims to drink, she's probably completely sterile (in more ways than one) :o
She's got blood in her alcohol stream! :o
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 8:15 pm
She's got blood in her alcohol stream! :o
Her blood type is XO :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 8:16 pm
Her blood type is XO :D
;D
This is assuming anything she said is true.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/12/08 at 8:32 pm
Should I get my immunizations updated before I come out there?
Jessica, if you ever decide to visit me in person, you may very well get tetanus (lockjaw), Lyme disease, rabies (thanks to the squirrels, chipmunks, raccoons and mice that my neighborhood is overrun with) and psittacosis from the bat guano in the garage and garden shed, there are numerous wasp, hornet and yellowjacket nests all over the place that are very active throughout the spring, summer and early fall, I have a large reptile/amphibian collection (2 ball pythons, 3 water dragons, 1 gopher tortoise, 6 poison-arrow frogs, 1 leopard gecko, a bearded dragon, a bullfrog, 2 corn snakes and a boa constrictor) and the place has strong chemical odors from the new paint, new carpet and fresh wallboard, so you will definitely want to get immunizations, and you will want to stay away if you don't like reptiles (I have the boa and the pythons out of their tanks much of the time) or if you are sensitive to chemicals. I will not give you any more directions. :)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/12/08 at 8:40 pm
livers are overrated.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/12/08 at 8:45 pm
livers are overrated.
Overrated? Whaddaya mean, overrated? You can't live without your liver! ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/12/08 at 8:56 pm
i'm anti-liver.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Step-chan on 11/12/08 at 9:08 pm
Pokeman, with the pokey and man, the pokey and the man, eh eh eh
Pokeman, zip zop, kids like to play... with their rap music. :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: AL-B Mk. III on 11/12/08 at 9:09 pm
Jessica, if you ever decide to visit me in person, you may very well get tetanus (lockjaw), Lyme disease, rabies (thanks to the squirrels, chipmunks, raccoons and mice that my neighborhood is overrun with) and psittacosis from the bat guano in the garage and garden shed, there are numerous wasp, hornet and yellowjacket nests all over the place that are very active throughout the spring, summer and early fall, I have a large reptile/amphibian collection (2 ball pythons, 3 water dragons, 1 gopher tortoise, 6 poison-arrow frogs, 1 leopard gecko, a bearded dragon, a bullfrog, 2 corn snakes and a boa constrictor)
(Everybody now!)
...AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE! :D :D :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 9:22 pm
Her blood type is XO :D
not MD 20/20 (or any other cheap alcohol that no one else in this world wants to drink past their freshman initiation in college)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 9:24 pm
(Everybody now!)
...AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE! :D :D :D
;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 9:26 pm
not MD 20/20 (or any other cheap alcohol that no one else in this world wants to drink past their freshman initiation in college)
Beer pong beer?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 9:42 pm
Jessica, if you ever decide to visit me in person, you may very well get tetanus (lockjaw), Lyme disease, rabies (thanks to the squirrels, chipmunks, raccoons and mice that my neighborhood is overrun with) and psittacosis from the bat guano in the garage and garden shed, there are numerous wasp, hornet and yellowjacket nests all over the place that are very active throughout the spring, summer and early fall, I have a large reptile/amphibian collection (2 ball pythons, 3 water dragons, 1 gopher tortoise, 6 poison-arrow frogs, 1 leopard gecko, a bearded dragon, a bullfrog, 2 corn snakes and a boa constrictor) and the place has strong chemical odors from the new paint, new carpet and fresh wallboard, so you will definitely want to get immunizations, and you will want to stay away if you don't like reptiles (I have the boa and the pythons out of their tanks much of the time) or if you are sensitive to chemicals. I will not give you any more directions. :)
Wow!!!! As a reptile and amphibian caretaker and owner - they themselves (both Reptiles and Amphibians, but Amphibians more) are highly sensitive to chemicals whether ingested or absorbed through their skin!!!! I would suggest temporarily moving them out while you are redoing your house, for their safety..... Don't worry though you can continue to live there. I have had reptiles for the past 21 years, work at a vet clinic and help local schools with reptile/amphibian orientations for students.... Imagine being locked into an enclosed room with those fumes, you would get light headed, nauses and a head ache (or a normal person would); now imagine your skin can also absorb chemicals and pollutants, and your scent is 100 times more powerful than humans - not a good mixture....
Quit bragging about being stupid when animals are involved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 9:43 pm
2kidsami WIN
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 9:44 pm
By the way, is a bearded dragon anything like a bearded clam? ???
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 9:53 pm
By the way, is a bearded dragon anything like a bearded clam? ???
Do not know crustaceans all that well??? ;D ;D ;D
Bearded Dragonhttp://www.the-lizard-lounge.com/content/gallery/lizard-pictures/bearded-dragon-pictures/bearded-dragon-02.jpg
Bearded Clamhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2438008724_3d82885035.jpg
You tell me???
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: AL-B Mk. III on 11/12/08 at 9:55 pm
Do not know crustaceans all that well??? ;D ;D ;D
Bearded Dragonhttp://www.the-lizard-lounge.com/content/gallery/lizard-pictures/bearded-dragon-pictures/bearded-dragon-02.jpg
Bearded Clamhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2438008724_3d82885035.jpg
You tell me???
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'd be afraid to dive into that clam. :o :o :o
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tia on 11/12/08 at 9:57 pm
Quit bragging about being stupid
though i appreciate animals, this also stands as excellent general advice. applies to my plan to try and ride my scooter through the winter, and how i'm telling everybody because i think it makes me badass.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 9:58 pm
I'd be afraid to dive into that clam. :o :o :o
The dragon is pretty good natured though, we have one and my 5 year old just loves him..... NOT So sure about the clam? ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 10:01 pm
Oh, a bearded dragon actually is real! That's a first :P
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/12/08 at 10:02 pm
Wow!!!! As a reptile and amphibian caretaker and owner - they themselves (both Reptiles and Amphibians, but Amphibians more) are highly sensitive to chemicals whether ingested or absorbed through their skin!!!! I would suggest temporarily moving them out while you are redoing your house, for their safety..... Don't worry though you can continue to live there. I have had reptiles for the past 21 years, work at a vet clinic and help local schools with reptile/amphibian orientations for students.... Imagine being locked into an enclosed room with those fumes, you would get light headed, nauses and a head ache (or a normal person would); now imagine your skin can also absorb chemicals and pollutants, and your scent is 100 times more powerful than humans - not a good mixture....
Quit bragging about being stupid when animals are involved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just read your post, and all of my reptiles and amphibians are currently in my basement, where I have not done any remodeling and where no hazardous chemicals or fuels are stored. :)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 10:04 pm
I'd be afraid to dive into that clam. :o :o :o
Pervert. I like it. http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/07/naughty.gif
The dragon is pretty good natured though, we have one and my 5 year old just loves him..... NOT So sure about the clam? ;D ;D ;D
My clam is pretty bad tempered. Snaps at you and everything.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 10:05 pm
^ :o
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/12/08 at 10:06 pm
(Everybody now!)
...AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE! :D :D :D
Al, you are fairly close. Actually, there is an osprey nest in a cottonwood tree in the backyard that faces mine. Yes, there's a bird's nest in a tree, but wrong kind of bird, wrong kind of tree, not my backyard. ;)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 10:10 pm
A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE CHEVROLET SMALL-BLOCK V-8.
Chevrolet's small-block V8 is a famous automobile engine. Nicknamed "mouse motor" (opposed to the big block engine, nicknamed "rat") for its compact dimensions compared to other V8 engines of the time, production began in 1955 with the 265 engine. By 1957 it had grown to 283 cu in (4.6 L), and with the optional Rochester mechanical fuel injection, it became one of the first production engines ever to make one horsepower per cubic inch. This engine was used to power the Corvette, and the Bel Air at that time. It would later be extended to other vehicles as well, and replace the old style 265 V8s. The displacement changed over the years, eventually reaching 400 cu in (6.6 L), but none caught on like the 350 cu in (5.7 L) small-block. This engine is still in production today at General Motors Toluca, Mexico plant (primarily for the GM over-the-counter Goodwrench powerplants), but is no longer offered in current model year vehicles since the year 2004. Its production numbers were impressive, with more than 90,000,000 built. It has been produced in carbureted, mechanical fuel injection, and electronic fuel injection forms.
From 1955-74, the small-block engine was known as the "Turbo-Fire V8".
Although Buick, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac also designed V8 engines (see list of GM engines), it was Chevrolet's 350 cu in (5.7 L) small-block that became the GM corporate standard. Over the years, every American General Motors division except Saturn used the Chevrolet small-block, and its descendants (see GM LT engine and GM LS engine) continue as the company's mainstream V8 design today.
The small-block was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines of the 20th Century list.
Chevrolet tested the small-block twice with no water and no oil at wide-open throttle. The first time it lasted an hour and 15 minutes and the second time it lasted two hours.
Major Versions
Generation 1
The original design of the small block remained remarkably unchanged for its production run, which began in 1955 and ended, in passenger vehicles, in 2003. The engine is still being built today for many aftermarket applications, both to replace worn-out older engines and also by many builders as high-performance applications. There were, however many minor changes made to the engine over the years; these changes are listed below.
* 1955 - The first year of introduction in 265 cu in (4.3 L) only. As was fairly common for the time, no provision for an oil filter was included in the engine design.
* 1956 - Oil filtration was introduced, using a sock style filter in a canister.
* 1957 - The engine came with only front mounts, the side mount bosses were present but not drilled and tapped leaving its retrofitting problematic.
* 1962 - The block's cylinder wall casting was revised to allow four inch bores. Previously, only certain years of the 283 engine (1958-1962) could be bored safely to four inches.
* 1968 - The main journal diameter was increased to 2.45 in from 2.30 in and the connecting rod journal diameter was increased to 2.10 in from 2.00 in. This allowed the use of cast iron crankshafts as the previous parts were made of forged steel. The rod bolts were changed from 11/32 in. diameter to 3/8 inch. Additionally, the canister/sock style oil filter was now converted to use spin on filters. The oil fill location was moved from a tube on the front of the intake manifold to a cap on either side valve cover.
* 1987 - The valve cover surfaces were changed such that cylinder head mounting lip was raised and the bolt location was moved from 4 bolts on the perimeter, to 4 bolts down the centerline of the valve cover (this design debuted on the Corvette in 1985, and Chevrolet 4.3 L the year before). The rear main seal was changed from a 2-piece rubber design to a 1-piece rubber design that used a mounting appliance to hold it in place. This necessitated a change in the flywheel/flexplate bolt pattern as well. Also changed were the mounting angles of the center 2 bolts on each side of the intake manifold (from 90 degrees to 73 degrees) and the lifter bosses were increased in height to accept roller lifters. The alloy heads for use in the Corvette still retain the non-angled bolts (center 2 bolts attaching to the intake). Also all carburetors were done away with and replaced by TBI (throttle-body injection) fuel injection that acts some what like a carburetor.
* 1996 - This was the last change for the Generation I engine, and continued through the end of the production run in 2003; all 1997-2003 Generation I engines were Vortec truck engines. The cylinder heads were redesigned using improved ports and combustion chambers similar to those in the Generation II LT1. This change resulted in significant power increases.
SB2 and SB2.2
(Small Block/second generation) This engine was produced from 1996 to the present for racing applications only. The cylinder heads were redesigned and the lifter bores were offset. The valve sequence for each head was changed from the traditional E-I-I-E-E-I-I-E to a new I-E-I-E-E-I-E-I and because of this the camshaft was redesigned.
Generation II
LT1 from a 1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
See the GM LT engine page for more information on the Generation II small-block V8s, which differ mainly in their reverse-flow cooling system.
Generation III / IV
LS1 from a 1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
See the GM LS engine page for more information on the current family of General Motors small-block V8s.
Early Small Blocks
The first small block Chevrolet V-8 was a 265 cu in (4.3 L) engine that was developed in 1955 for the Corvette. Displacement and power eventually reached 327 cu in (5.4 L) and 375 hp (280 kW) (in prototypes) before the Corvette switched to Chevrolet big-block power. Although less powerful than big blocks, small block engines have remained popular due to their lower cost (including the cost of performance add-ons) and solid performance and reliability.
265
The 265 cu in (4.3 L) V8 was the first Chevrolet small block. Designed by Ed Cole's group at Chevrolet, it filled the power gap in the 1955 Corvette lineup, producing an impressive 250 hp (186 kW). The little engine went from drawings to production in just 15 weeks. Besides its compact dimensions, the small-block was known for its novel green-sand foundry construction process.
Dimensions were oversquare - 3.75 in (95 mm) bore and 3 in (76 mm) stroke. The small-block's 4.4 in (111.8 mm) bore spacing would continue in use for decades. It was a pushrod cast-iron engine with hydraulic lifters and a 2-barrel or 4-barrel Rochester carburetor. The 1955 conventional passenger car version produced 162 hp (121 kW) with a 2-barrel carburetor, or could be upgraded at extra cost to a "Power Pack" version conservatively rated at 180 hp (134 kW) with a four-barrel Rochester and dual exhaust. The first production year of this engine had no provision for oil filtration built into the block; however, an add-on filter mounted on the thermostat housing was installed during production. Due to the lack of adequate oil filtration provisions, the '55 model year block is typically only desirable to period collectors.
The 1956 Corvette introduced three versions of this engine - 210 hp (157 kW), 225 hp (168 kW) with twin 4-barrel carbs, and 240 hp (179 kW) with a high-lift cam.
* 1955, 1956 Chevrolet Corvette
* 1955 Chevrolet, 165 hp (123 kW) (2-barrel) and 195 hp (145 kW) (4-barrel)
283
The 283 cu in (4.6 L) V8 was introduced in 1957. It was a version of the 265 cu in (4.3 L) with a larger bore at 3.87 in (98 mm). There were five different versions ranging from 185 hp (138 kW) to 283 hp (211 kW) depending on whether a single carb, twin carbs, or fuel injection was used. Power was up a bit each year for 1958, 1959, and 1960.
The 1957 engine featured Ramjet mechanical fuel injection, allowing the engine to produce 1 hp (1 kW) per cubic inch, an impressive feat at the time. For 1961, an amazing 315 hp (235 kW) was available from this unit.
* 1957-1962 Chevrolet Corvette
302
Chevrolet produced a special 302 cu in (4.9 L) engine for Trans Am racing from 1967-1969. It was the product of placing the 3-inch stroke crankshaft from a 283 into a 4-inch bore 327 block. This engine was mostly used in the first-generation Camaro Z28. Just over 100 DZ block 302 engines were used in the, unique to South Africa, Chevrolet Firenza Can Am. Conservatively rated at 290 hp (216 kW), actual output was around 360 hp (268 kW). This block is one of 3 displacements that underwent a transformation for the 1968/1969 period when the main bearing size was increased from 2.30 in to 2.45 in.
307
A 307 cu in (5 L) version was produced from 1968 through 1973. Engine bore was 3.875 inches (98.4 mm) with a 3.25-inch (82.6 mm) stroke.
The 307 replaced the 283 in Chevrolet cars and produced 200 hp (149 kW) SAE gross at 4600 rpm and 300 lb·ft (407 N·m) of torque at 2400 rpm in the 1960s. The later emissions-modified versions produced just 115 hp (86 kW) SAE net, giving the engine one of the lowest power-per-displacement ratings of all time. Chevrolet never produced a high-performance version of this engine, though they did produce, for Outboard Marine Corporation, a high-performance marinized 307, rated at 235 hp (175 kW) and 245 hp (183 kW) SAE gross, depending on year, that shipped with the Corvette/Z-28's cast aluminum valve covers and Rochester QuadraJet carb. Chevy also built other versions of the OMC 307 rated at 210 hp (157 kW), 215 hp (160 kW) and 225 hp (168 kW) SAE gross.
One of the biggest myths about the 307 is that all the blocks were cast with a very low nickel content. However, some 307 blocks, such as casting number 3970020 with suffix VxxxxTHA (x's in place for date), had 010 and 020 stamped under the timing chain cover indicating high tin and nickel content.
327
The 327 cu in (5.4 L) V8, introduced in 1962, had a bore and stroke of 4 in (102 mm) by 3.25 in. Power ranged from 250 hp (186 kW) to 375 hp (280 kW) depending on the choice of carburetor or fuel injection, camshaft, cylinder heads, pistons and intake manifold. In 1962, the Duntov solid lifter cam versions produced 340 hp (254 kW), 344 lb·ft (466 N·m) with single Carter 4-brl, and 360 hp (268 kW), 352 lb·ft (477 N·m) with Rochester mechanical fuel injection. In 1964, horsepower increased to 365 hp (272 kW) for the now dubbed L79 version, and 375 hp (280 kW) for the fuel injected L84 respectively, making the L84 the most powerful naturally aspirated, single-cam, production small block V8 until the appearance of the 385 hp (287 kW), 385 lb·ft (522 N·m) Generation III LS6 in 2001. * L79, L84 1963-1965; Chevrolet Corvette. This block is one of three displacements that under went a major change in 1968/1969 when the main bearing size was increased from 2.30 to 2.4 inches (58.4–61.0 mm). In 1965 the SS malibu choice of the 327/350 hp know as the "L79", with a aluminum manifold, holley squarebore carb, chrome valve covers, a huge 8" balancer, huge 2.02" intake valves and could only be ordered with a 4 speed trans.
400
A 400 cu in (6.6 L) small-block was introduced in 1970 and produced for 10 years. It had a 4.125-inch (104.8 mm) bore and a 3.75-inch (95.3 mm) stroke. Initial output was 265 hp (198 kW) and was only available equipped with a 2-barrel carburetor. In 1974 a 4-barrel version of the 400 was introduced,while the 2-barrel version stopped production in 1975. 1976 was the last year that the 400 was used in a Chevrolet Passenger car, available in both the A-Body and B-Body line. While popular with circle-track racers, the engine was prone to cooling troubles if cylinder heads without steam holes were used. they mostly put out 250 hp stock.
Later Small Blocks
This section documents the odd-size small blocks developed after the 350 appeared in 1969. Many of these basic blocks are variations of the 350 design.
262
The 262 was a 262 cu in (4.3 L) 90° pushrod V8 with an iron block and heads. Bore and stroke were 3.67 in (93 mm) by 3.10 in (78.7 mm). Power output for 1975 was 110 hp (82 kW) and 195 lb·ft (264 N·m). The 262 was underpowered and was replaced by the 305 the following year.
This was Chevrolet's second 4.3 L-displacement powerplant; two other Chevrolet engines displaced 4.3 L: the Vortec 4300 (based on the Chevrolet 350, with two cylinders removed), and a derivative of the LT1 known as the L99 (using the 305's 3.736-inch bore, 5.94-inch connecting rods, and a 3-inch crankshaft stroke).
This engine was used in the following cars:
* 1975-1976 Chevrolet Monza
* 1975 Chevrolet Nova
267
The 267 was introduced in 1979 for GM F-Body(Camaro), G-bodies (Chevrolet Monte Carlo, El Camino, and Malibu Classic) and also used on GM B-body cars (Impala and Caprice models). The 267 cu in (4.4 L) had the 350's crankshaft stroke of 3.48" and the smallest bore of any small-block, 3.500 in. The 3.500" bore was also used on the 200 cu in (3.3 L) V6, which was introduced a year earlier. (The 200 was a Chevrolet V6 engine based on the small block with the #3 and #6 cylinders removed).
It was available with a Rochester Dualjet 210 - effectively a Rochester Quadrajet with no rear barrels. After 1980, electronic feedback carburetion was used on the 267.
While similar in displacement to the other 4.3-4.4 L V8 engines produced by General Motors (including the Oldsmobile 260 and Pontiac 265, the small bore 267 shared no parts with the other engines and was phased out after the 1982 model year due to inability to conform to emission standards. Chevrolet vehicles eventually used the 305 cu in (5 L) as its base V8 engine.
305
The 305 variant of the small-block Chevrolet had a displacement of 305 cu in (5 L) with a 3.736-inch (95 mm) bore and 3.48-inch (88.4 mm) stroke. The 262 was considered underpowered for use in vehicles with a wheelbase greater than 110 inches, so GM engineers decided to increase the bore diameter from 3.671 to 3.736 inches (93.2–94.9 mm) and increase the stroke from 3.10 to 3.48 inches (78.7–88.4 mm) (from the 350). Some performance enthusiasts have noted a marked resistance to performance upgrades on the 305 because of its small bore, poor selection of aftermarket cylinder heads, and the relatively high availability of 350 cu in (5.7 L) engines.
Induction systems for the 305 included carburetors (both 2 and 4-barrel), throttle-body injection (TBI), tuned-port fuel injection (TPI), and sequential fuel injection (GM Vortec).
After 1996, its usage was limited to light trucks and SUVs as the Vortec 5000.
Year hp (kW) lb·ft (N·m)
1976 140 250 w/2bbl.
1977 145 245 w/2bbl.
1978 140 240 w/2bbl.
1978 160 235 w/4bbl.
1979 130 245 w/2bbl.
1979† 125 235 w/2bbl.
1980 155 240 w/4bbl.
1981 150 240 w/4bbl
† California Emissions
The 305 was used in the following cars:
* 1977-1993 Chevrolet Caprice (includes Impala)
* 1977-1986 Pontiac Parisienne
* 1976-1979 Chevrolet Monza
* 1976-1979 Chevrolet Nova (also GM X-body clones after 1976)
* 1976-1992 Chevrolet Camaro
* 1976-1988 Chevrolet Malibu, Chevrolet El Camino, and Chevrolet Monte Carlo
* 1978-1992 Pontiac Firebird
* 1978-1980 Oldsmobile Cutlass (US Market only, Canadian market 1978-1987)
* 1991-1992 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser
* 1981-1987 Pontiac Grand Prix
* 1975-1979 Buick Skylark
* 1977-2003 Chevrolet/GMC Trucks, SUVs, Vans
* 1991-1992 Cadillac Brougham
LG3
Years:1976-1980
Dualjet 2 bbl carb version with 8.5:1 compression.
LG4
Years: 1980-1987
The LG4 was the "low output" 305 cu in (5 L) (compared to the L69). It produced 150 hp (112 kW)-170 hp (127 kW) and 240 lb·ft (325 N·m)-250 lb·ft (339 N·m). The addition of a knock sensor for the engine management system in 1985 allowed an increase in compression and a more aggressive spark timing map in the ECM. As a result power increased for the 1985 models to 165 hp (123 kW) from the 150 hp (112 kW) rating in 1984.
L69
Years: 1983-1986
The L69 was the last true H.O. engine. The High Output 5 L (305 cu in) , featuring higher compression of 9.5:1 with heads of the to-be-discontinued LU5 Cross-Fire fuel injection engine, and utilizing camshaft and 4" catalytic converter of the 5.7 L (350 cu in) L83 which was used on the Corvette of 1982 and 1984. Complete with a 2.75 inch exhaust system, topped by a recalibrated 4-barrel carburetor, dual snorkel air cleaner assembly, aluminum intake manifold, aluminum flywheel, electric cooling fan, and furthermore a knock sensor including more aggressive spark timing, this engine produced 190 hp (142 kW) @ 4800 and 240 lb·ft (325 N·m) of torque @ 3200 rpm. In most cases, being mated to a 3.73 or 3:42 ratio limited slip rear axle and a T5 5-speed or 700R4 automatic, this engine provided its driver with a wide range of rpm to play in.
LE9
Years: 1981-1986
The LE9 5 L (305 cu in) was the truck/van version of the High Output 305. It also had flattop pistons for a 9.5:1 compression ratio, the "929" truck 350 camshaft for more torque, 14022601 casting heads featuring 1.84/1.50" valves and 53 cc chambers, a specially calibrated 4bbl Q-Jet, the hybrid centrifugal/vacuum advance distributor with ESC knock sensor setup, and lower restriction exhaust. The engine made 210 hp (157 kW) @ 4,600 and 250 lb·ft (339 N·m) @ 2,000 rpm.
L03
Years: 1987-95
The L03 was the "low output" 5 L (305 cu in) (compared to the 305 TPI LB9). It produced 170 hp (127 kW) and 255 lb·ft (346 N·m) of torque (190 hp (142 kW) at 4,400 rpm and 275 lb·ft (373 N·m) at 2,400 in 1993-1995 GM trucks). This engine used throttle-body fuel injection. The TBI uses a unique injector firing scheme, for every rotation of the engine, each injector fired twice.
LB9
Years: 1985-1992
Introduced in 1985, the LB9 was the first Chevrolet small block to have tuned-port fuel injection (TPI). It was introduced with 215 hp (160 kW) and 275 lb·ft (373 N·m) and varied between 190 hp (142 kW)-230 hp (172 kW) (with 275 lb·ft (373 N·m)-300 lb·ft (407 N·m) of torque) over the years offered. It was an option on all 1985-1992 Chevrolet Camaro & Pontiac Firebird models.
350
Not to be confused with Buick V8 engine, Oldsmobile V8 engine, or Pontiac V8 engine.
The first generation of Chevrolet small-blocks began with the 1955 Chevrolet 265 cu in (4.3 L) V8. But it was the 350 cu in (5.7 L) series that came to be emblematic of the Chevrolet small block V8 engine. The engine's physical dimensions (oversquare 4.00-inch bore and 3.48-inch stroke, 102 mm by 88 mm) are nearly identical to the 400 hp (298 kW) LS2 engine of today, but much has changed. It is by far the most widely used Chevrolet small-block; it has been installed in everything from station wagons to sports cars, in commercial vehicles, and even in boats and (in highly modified form) airplanes.
First usage of the 350 was in the 1967 Chevrolet Camaro and 1968 Nova producing 295 horsepower (gross); other Chevrolet vehicle lines followed suit in the year 1969.
The GM Goodwrench 350 crate engine comes in several variations. The lowest priced uses the pre-1986 four-bolt casting molds with two dipstick locations; pre-1980 on the driver's side and post-1980 on the passenger's side. This engine was produced in Mexico since 1981 as the Targetmaster 350, and now the GM Goodwrench 350.
ZQ3
Years: 1969, 1970, 1972-1975
The ZQ3 was the standard engine in the 1969-1970 Chevrolet Corvette. It was a 300 hp (224 kW) version of the 350 cu in (5.7 L) small-block, with 10.25:1 compression and hydraulic lifters. It used a Rochester "4MV" Quadra-Jet 4-barrel carburetor. This was the first block produced that featured the larger 2.45 inch main bearing versus the older 2.30 inch main bearing in 1968/1969.
The 1969 ZQ3 produced 200 hp (149 kW) and 300 lb·ft (407 N·m) with 8.5:1 compression, dropping another 10 hp (7 kW) in 1973. 1975 saw the ZQ3 at 165 hp (123 kW) and 255 lb·ft (346 N·m).
L46
Years: 1969, 1970
The L46 was an optional engine on the 1969-1970 Chevrolet Corvette. It was a 350 hp (261 kW), 380 lb·ft (515 N·m) version of the ZQ3 with higher 11:1 compression.
LT-1
LT-1 from a 1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
Years: 1970-1972
The LT-1 was the ultimate 350 cu in (5.7 L) V8, becoming available in 1970. It used solid lifters, 11:1 compression, a high-performance camshaft, and a Holley four-barrel carburetor on a special aluminum intake to produce 370 hp (276 kW) and 380 lb·ft (515 N·m). It was available on the Corvette and Camaro Z28. Power was down in 1971 to 330 hp (246 kW) and 360 lb·ft (488 N·m) with 9:1 compression, and again in 1972 (the last year of the LT-1) to 255 hp (190 kW) and 280 lb·ft (380 N·m).
There was also a later small-block engine called the "LT1".
L48
Years: 1967-1980
The L-48 is the original 350 cu in (5.7 L), available only in the Camaro or Chevy II/Nova in '67 & '68. In '69 it was used in almost everything; Camaros, Corvettes, Impalas, Chevelles & Novas. From '75-'80 it was available only in the Corvette. L-48's use a Hyd Cam, 4bbl Qjet, Cast pistons, 2 bolt main caps, "Pink" Rods, #0014 Blocks & #993 heads. Power output ranges from 300HP(gross) down to 175HP(net).
The L48 was the standard engine in the 1971 Chevrolet Corvette. It produced 270 hp (201 kW) and 360 lb·ft (488 N·m) with an 8.5:1 compression ratio.
The 1976-1979 L48 was the standard Corvette engine and produced 180 hp (134 kW) and 270 lb·ft (366 N·m). The 1980 L48 stood at 190 hp (142 kW) and 280 lb·ft (380 N·m) from 8.2:1 compression.
In 1972 the only way to get a L48 (4bbl V8) in a Chevy Nova was to get the Super Sport Package. This is indicated by the 5th digit in the VIN being a "K". 1972 was the only year you could verify the Super Sport package by the VIN.
In 1973 the "L-48" had cold air induction (throttle activated) and developed 190 hp (142 kW) (net). Beginning in 1974 the hp was reduced for several years until it reached a low of 165 hp (123 kW) (net) in 1975, before rising again.
L82
Years: 1973-1980
The 1973-1974 L82 was a "performance" version of the 350 producing 250 hp (186 kW) and 285 lb·ft (386 N·m) from 9:1 compression. It was down to 205 hp (153 kW) and 255 lb·ft (346 N·m) for 1975. It was the optional engine again in 1976-1977, producing 5 hp (4 kW) more. The 1978 L82 recovered somewhat, producing 220 hp (164 kW) and 260 lb·ft (353 N·m), and then 5 hp (4 kW) and 10 lb·ft (14 N·m) more for 1979. 1980 saw yet another 10 hp (7 kW) and 15 lb·ft (20 N·m).
L81
Years: 1981
The L81 was the only 5.7 L (350 cu in) Corvette engine for 1981. It produced 190 hp (142 kW) and 280 lb·ft (380 N·m) from 8.2:1 compression, exactly the same as the 1980 L48, but added computer control spark advance, replacing the vacuum advance.
L83
Years: 1982, 1984
The 1982 L83 was again the only Corvette engine (and only available with an automatic transmission) producing 200 hp (149 kW) and 285 lb·ft (386 N·m) from 9:1 compression. This was again the only engine on the new 1984 Vette, at 205 hp (153 kW) and 290 lb·ft (393 N·m). The L83 added Cross-Fire fuel injection (twin throttle-body fuel injection).
L98
For the new Generation IV V8, see GM L98.
Years: 1985-1992
The new 1985 L98 added tuned-port fuel injection "TPI", which produced 230 hp (172 kW) and 330 lb·ft (447 N·m). It was standard on all 1985-1991 Corvettes (rated at 230 hp (172 kW)-250 hp (186 kW) and 330 lb·ft (447 N·m)-350 lb·ft (475 N·m)). Optional on 87-92 Chevrolet Camaro & Pontiac Firebird models (rated at 225 hp (168 kW)-245 hp (183 kW) and 330 lb·ft (447 N·m)-345 lb·ft (468 N·m)) 1987 versions had 10 hp (7 kW) and 15 lb·ft (20 N·m) more thanks to 9.5:1 compression. Compression was up again in 1991 to 10:1 but output stayed the same.
LM1
The LM1 is the base 5.7 L (350 cu in) with a 4-barrel carburetor (usually with a Rochester Quadrajet) in passenger cars until 1988. Throughout its lifespan, it received either a points, electronic, and/or computer-controlled spark system, to conventional and feedback carburetors.
LM1s were superseded with the LO5 powerplant after 1988.
L05
The L05 was introduced in 1987 for use in Chevrolet/GMC trucks in both the GMT400 (introduced in April 1987 as 1988 models) and the R/V series trucks such as the K5 Blazer, Suburban, and rounded-era pickups formerly classed as the C/K until 1996 which includes chassis cabs and 4-door crew cabs. Although usage was for trucks, vans, and 9C1-optioned Caprices, the L05 was also used with the following vehicles:
* 1992/1993 Buick Roadmaster sedan and station wagon
* 1991/1992 Cadillac Brougham (optional engine)
* 1993 Cadillac Fleetwood
* 1992/1993 Chevrolet Caprice Wagon (optional engine)
* 1993 Chevrolet Caprice LTZ
* 1992 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser Wagon (optional engine)
L05 usage was replaced by the GM LT1 after 1993 in GM B-Bodies until production ceased in 1996.
In mid 1996 the L05 was equipped with Vortec heads used in the 1996 G30.
L31
The L31 replaced the LO5 in 1996 - known as the Vortec 5700. Known as the GEN 1+, this was the final incarnation of the 1955-vintage small block, ending production in 2005 with the last vehicle being a Kodiak/Topkick HD truck. Volvo Penta and Mercury Marine still produces the L31. The "MARINE" intake is a potential upgrade for L31 trucks.
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Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 10:14 pm
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Here is a website, especially since they are now in "the basement" and you aren't living with them - unless you enjoy living in your basement, and considering how you have described your house thus far, I am sure that it is not the "prime" spot to be. You have said you let your snakes and reptiles run freely, and that your house is an old house in disrepair - that means lead paint and lead pipes - very hazardous to both reptiles and amphibians..... Lead dust is everywhere when one does remodeling and dust settles so that means it goes down, basements are down and this is not!!!! a good situation. It is never advised to have reptiles, birds and fish around any renovations; let alone amphibians the most sensitive of all animals.... Still advise to move them out till you are through!!!
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A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE CHEVROLET SMALL-BLOCK V-8.
Chevrolet's small-block V8 is a famous automobile engine. Nicknamed "mouse motor" (opposed to the big block engine, nicknamed "rat") for its compact dimensions compared to other V8 engines of the time, production began in 1955 with the 265 engine. By 1957 it had grown to 283 cu in (4.6 L), and with the optional Rochester mechanical fuel injection, it became one of the first production engines ever to make one horsepower per cubic inch. This engine was used to power the Corvette, and the Bel Air at that time. It would later be extended to other vehicles as well, and replace the old style 265 V8s. The displacement changed over the years, eventually reaching 400 cu in (6.6 L), but none caught on like the 350 cu in (5.7 L) small-block. This engine is still in production today at General Motors Toluca, Mexico plant (primarily for the GM over-the-counter Goodwrench powerplants), but is no longer offered in current model year vehicles since the year 2004. Its production numbers were impressive, with more than 90,000,000 built. It has been produced in carbureted, mechanical fuel injection, and electronic fuel injection forms.
From 1955-74, the small-block engine was known as the "Turbo-Fire V8".
Although Buick, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac also designed V8 engines (see list of GM engines), it was Chevrolet's 350 cu in (5.7 L) small-block that became the GM corporate standard. Over the years, every American General Motors division except Saturn used the Chevrolet small-block, and its descendants (see GM LT engine and GM LS engine) continue as the company's mainstream V8 design today.
The small-block was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines of the 20th Century list.
Chevrolet tested the small-block twice with no water and no oil at wide-open throttle. The first time it lasted an hour and 15 minutes and the second time it lasted two hours.
Major Versions
Generation 1
The original design of the small block remained remarkably unchanged for its production run, which began in 1955 and ended, in passenger vehicles, in 2003. The engine is still being built today for many aftermarket applications, both to replace worn-out older engines and also by many builders as high-performance applications. There were, however many minor changes made to the engine over the years; these changes are listed below.
* 1955 - The first year of introduction in 265 cu in (4.3 L) only. As was fairly common for the time, no provision for an oil filter was included in the engine design.
* 1956 - Oil filtration was introduced, using a sock style filter in a canister.
* 1957 - The engine came with only front mounts, the side mount bosses were present but not drilled and tapped leaving its retrofitting problematic.
* 1962 - The block's cylinder wall casting was revised to allow four inch bores. Previously, only certain years of the 283 engine (1958-1962) could be bored safely to four inches.
* 1968 - The main journal diameter was increased to 2.45 in from 2.30 in and the connecting rod journal diameter was increased to 2.10 in from 2.00 in. This allowed the use of cast iron crankshafts as the previous parts were made of forged steel. The rod bolts were changed from 11/32 in. diameter to 3/8 inch. Additionally, the canister/sock style oil filter was now converted to use spin on filters. The oil fill location was moved from a tube on the front of the intake manifold to a cap on either side valve cover.
* 1987 - The valve cover surfaces were changed such that cylinder head mounting lip was raised and the bolt location was moved from 4 bolts on the perimeter, to 4 bolts down the centerline of the valve cover (this design debuted on the Corvette in 1985, and Chevrolet 4.3 L the year before). The rear main seal was changed from a 2-piece rubber design to a 1-piece rubber design that used a mounting appliance to hold it in place. This necessitated a change in the flywheel/flexplate bolt pattern as well. Also changed were the mounting angles of the center 2 bolts on each side of the intake manifold (from 90 degrees to 73 degrees) and the lifter bosses were increased in height to accept roller lifters. The alloy heads for use in the Corvette still retain the non-angled bolts (center 2 bolts attaching to the intake). Also all carburetors were done away with and replaced by TBI (throttle-body injection) fuel injection that acts some what like a carburetor.
* 1996 - This was the last change for the Generation I engine, and continued through the end of the production run in 2003; all 1997-2003 Generation I engines were Vortec truck engines. The cylinder heads were redesigned using improved ports and combustion chambers similar to those in the Generation II LT1. This change resulted in significant power increases.
SB2 and SB2.2
(Small Block/second generation) This engine was produced from 1996 to the present for racing applications only. The cylinder heads were redesigned and the lifter bores were offset. The valve sequence for each head was changed from the traditional E-I-I-E-E-I-I-E to a new I-E-I-E-E-I-E-I and because of this the camshaft was redesigned.
Generation II
LT1 from a 1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
See the GM LT engine page for more information on the Generation II small-block V8s, which differ mainly in their reverse-flow cooling system.
Generation III / IV
LS1 from a 1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
See the GM LS engine page for more information on the current family of General Motors small-block V8s.
Early Small Blocks
The first small block Chevrolet V-8 was a 265 cu in (4.3 L) engine that was developed in 1955 for the Corvette. Displacement and power eventually reached 327 cu in (5.4 L) and 375 hp (280 kW) (in prototypes) before the Corvette switched to Chevrolet big-block power. Although less powerful than big blocks, small block engines have remained popular due to their lower cost (including the cost of performance add-ons) and solid performance and reliability.
265
The 265 cu in (4.3 L) V8 was the first Chevrolet small block. Designed by Ed Cole's group at Chevrolet, it filled the power gap in the 1955 Corvette lineup, producing an impressive 250 hp (186 kW). The little engine went from drawings to production in just 15 weeks. Besides its compact dimensions, the small-block was known for its novel green-sand foundry construction process.
Dimensions were oversquare - 3.75 in (95 mm) bore and 3 in (76 mm) stroke. The small-block's 4.4 in (111.8 mm) bore spacing would continue in use for decades. It was a pushrod cast-iron engine with hydraulic lifters and a 2-barrel or 4-barrel Rochester carburetor. The 1955 conventional passenger car version produced 162 hp (121 kW) with a 2-barrel carburetor, or could be upgraded at extra cost to a "Power Pack" version conservatively rated at 180 hp (134 kW) with a four-barrel Rochester and dual exhaust. The first production year of this engine had no provision for oil filtration built into the block; however, an add-on filter mounted on the thermostat housing was installed during production. Due to the lack of adequate oil filtration provisions, the '55 model year block is typically only desirable to period collectors.
The 1956 Corvette introduced three versions of this engine - 210 hp (157 kW), 225 hp (168 kW) with twin 4-barrel carbs, and 240 hp (179 kW) with a high-lift cam.
* 1955, 1956 Chevrolet Corvette
* 1955 Chevrolet, 165 hp (123 kW) (2-barrel) and 195 hp (145 kW) (4-barrel)
283
The 283 cu in (4.6 L) V8 was introduced in 1957. It was a version of the 265 cu in (4.3 L) with a larger bore at 3.87 in (98 mm). There were five different versions ranging from 185 hp (138 kW) to 283 hp (211 kW) depending on whether a single carb, twin carbs, or fuel injection was used. Power was up a bit each year for 1958, 1959, and 1960.
The 1957 engine featured Ramjet mechanical fuel injection, allowing the engine to produce 1 hp (1 kW) per cubic inch, an impressive feat at the time. For 1961, an amazing 315 hp (235 kW) was available from this unit.
* 1957-1962 Chevrolet Corvette
302
Chevrolet produced a special 302 cu in (4.9 L) engine for Trans Am racing from 1967-1969. It was the product of placing the 3-inch stroke crankshaft from a 283 into a 4-inch bore 327 block. This engine was mostly used in the first-generation Camaro Z28. Just over 100 DZ block 302 engines were used in the, unique to South Africa, Chevrolet Firenza Can Am. Conservatively rated at 290 hp (216 kW), actual output was around 360 hp (268 kW). This block is one of 3 displacements that underwent a transformation for the 1968/1969 period when the main bearing size was increased from 2.30 in to 2.45 in.
307
A 307 cu in (5 L) version was produced from 1968 through 1973. Engine bore was 3.875 inches (98.4 mm) with a 3.25-inch (82.6 mm) stroke.
The 307 replaced the 283 in Chevrolet cars and produced 200 hp (149 kW) SAE gross at 4600 rpm and 300 lb·ft (407 N·m) of torque at 2400 rpm in the 1960s. The later emissions-modified versions produced just 115 hp (86 kW) SAE net, giving the engine one of the lowest power-per-displacement ratings of all time. Chevrolet never produced a high-performance version of this engine, though they did produce, for Outboard Marine Corporation, a high-performance marinized 307, rated at 235 hp (175 kW) and 245 hp (183 kW) SAE gross, depending on year, that shipped with the Corvette/Z-28's cast aluminum valve covers and Rochester QuadraJet carb. Chevy also built other versions of the OMC 307 rated at 210 hp (157 kW), 215 hp (160 kW) and 225 hp (168 kW) SAE gross.
One of the biggest myths about the 307 is that all the blocks were cast with a very low nickel content. However, some 307 blocks, such as casting number 3970020 with suffix VxxxxTHA (x's in place for date), had 010 and 020 stamped under the timing chain cover indicating high tin and nickel content.
327
The 327 cu in (5.4 L) V8, introduced in 1962, had a bore and stroke of 4 in (102 mm) by 3.25 in. Power ranged from 250 hp (186 kW) to 375 hp (280 kW) depending on the choice of carburetor or fuel injection, camshaft, cylinder heads, pistons and intake manifold. In 1962, the Duntov solid lifter cam versions produced 340 hp (254 kW), 344 lb·ft (466 N·m) with single Carter 4-brl, and 360 hp (268 kW), 352 lb·ft (477 N·m) with Rochester mechanical fuel injection. In 1964, horsepower increased to 365 hp (272 kW) for the now dubbed L79 version, and 375 hp (280 kW) for the fuel injected L84 respectively, making the L84 the most powerful naturally aspirated, single-cam, production small block V8 until the appearance of the 385 hp (287 kW), 385 lb·ft (522 N·m) Generation III LS6 in 2001. * L79, L84 1963-1965; Chevrolet Corvette. This block is one of three displacements that under went a major change in 1968/1969 when the main bearing size was increased from 2.30 to 2.4 inches (58.4–61.0 mm). In 1965 the SS malibu choice of the 327/350 hp know as the "L79", with a aluminum manifold, holley squarebore carb, chrome valve covers, a huge 8" balancer, huge 2.02" intake valves and could only be ordered with a 4 speed trans.
400
A 400 cu in (6.6 L) small-block was introduced in 1970 and produced for 10 years. It had a 4.125-inch (104.8 mm) bore and a 3.75-inch (95.3 mm) stroke. Initial output was 265 hp (198 kW) and was only available equipped with a 2-barrel carburetor. In 1974 a 4-barrel version of the 400 was introduced,while the 2-barrel version stopped production in 1975. 1976 was the last year that the 400 was used in a Chevrolet Passenger car, available in both the A-Body and B-Body line. While popular with circle-track racers, the engine was prone to cooling troubles if cylinder heads without steam holes were used. they mostly put out 250 hp stock.
Later Small Blocks
This section documents the odd-size small blocks developed after the 350 appeared in 1969. Many of these basic blocks are variations of the 350 design.
262
The 262 was a 262 cu in (4.3 L) 90° pushrod V8 with an iron block and heads. Bore and stroke were 3.67 in (93 mm) by 3.10 in (78.7 mm). Power output for 1975 was 110 hp (82 kW) and 195 lb·ft (264 N·m). The 262 was underpowered and was replaced by the 305 the following year.
This was Chevrolet's second 4.3 L-displacement powerplant; two other Chevrolet engines displaced 4.3 L: the Vortec 4300 (based on the Chevrolet 350, with two cylinders removed), and a derivative of the LT1 known as the L99 (using the 305's 3.736-inch bore, 5.94-inch connecting rods, and a 3-inch crankshaft stroke).
This engine was used in the following cars:
* 1975-1976 Chevrolet Monza
* 1975 Chevrolet Nova
267
The 267 was introduced in 1979 for GM F-Body(Camaro), G-bodies (Chevrolet Monte Carlo, El Camino, and Malibu Classic) and also used on GM B-body cars (Impala and Caprice models). The 267 cu in (4.4 L) had the 350's crankshaft stroke of 3.48" and the smallest bore of any small-block, 3.500 in. The 3.500" bore was also used on the 200 cu in (3.3 L) V6, which was introduced a year earlier. (The 200 was a Chevrolet V6 engine based on the small block with the #3 and #6 cylinders removed).
It was available with a Rochester Dualjet 210 - effectively a Rochester Quadrajet with no rear barrels. After 1980, electronic feedback carburetion was used on the 267.
While similar in displacement to the other 4.3-4.4 L V8 engines produced by General Motors (including the Oldsmobile 260 and Pontiac 265, the small bore 267 shared no parts with the other engines and was phased out after the 1982 model year due to inability to conform to emission standards. Chevrolet vehicles eventually used the 305 cu in (5 L) as its base V8 engine.
305
The 305 variant of the small-block Chevrolet had a displacement of 305 cu in (5 L) with a 3.736-inch (95 mm) bore and 3.48-inch (88.4 mm) stroke. The 262 was considered underpowered for use in vehicles with a wheelbase greater than 110 inches, so GM engineers decided to increase the bore diameter from 3.671 to 3.736 inches (93.2–94.9 mm) and increase the stroke from 3.10 to 3.48 inches (78.7–88.4 mm) (from the 350). Some performance enthusiasts have noted a marked resistance to performance upgrades on the 305 because of its small bore, poor selection of aftermarket cylinder heads, and the relatively high availability of 350 cu in (5.7 L) engines.
Induction systems for the 305 included carburetors (both 2 and 4-barrel), throttle-body injection (TBI), tuned-port fuel injection (TPI), and sequential fuel injection (GM Vortec).
After 1996, its usage was limited to light trucks and SUVs as the Vortec 5000.
Year hp (kW) lb·ft (N·m)
1976 140 250 w/2bbl.
1977 145 245 w/2bbl.
1978 140 240 w/2bbl.
1978 160 235 w/4bbl.
1979 130 245 w/2bbl.
1979† 125 235 w/2bbl.
1980 155 240 w/4bbl.
1981 150 240 w/4bbl
† California Emissions
The 305 was used in the following cars:
* 1977-1993 Chevrolet Caprice (includes Impala)
* 1977-1986 Pontiac Parisienne
* 1976-1979 Chevrolet Monza
* 1976-1979 Chevrolet Nova (also GM X-body clones after 1976)
* 1976-1992 Chevrolet Camaro
* 1976-1988 Chevrolet Malibu, Chevrolet El Camino, and Chevrolet Monte Carlo
* 1978-1992 Pontiac Firebird
* 1978-1980 Oldsmobile Cutlass (US Market only, Canadian market 1978-1987)
* 1991-1992 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser
* 1981-1987 Pontiac Grand Prix
* 1975-1979 Buick Skylark
* 1977-2003 Chevrolet/GMC Trucks, SUVs, Vans
* 1991-1992 Cadillac Brougham
LG3
Years:1976-1980
Dualjet 2 bbl carb version with 8.5:1 compression.
LG4
Years: 1980-1987
The LG4 was the "low output" 305 cu in (5 L) (compared to the L69). It produced 150 hp (112 kW)-170 hp (127 kW) and 240 lb·ft (325 N·m)-250 lb·ft (339 N·m). The addition of a knock sensor for the engine management system in 1985 allowed an increase in compression and a more aggressive spark timing map in the ECM. As a result power increased for the 1985 models to 165 hp (123 kW) from the 150 hp (112 kW) rating in 1984.
L69
Years: 1983-1986
The L69 was the last true H.O. engine. The High Output 5 L (305 cu in) , featuring higher compression of 9.5:1 with heads of the to-be-discontinued LU5 Cross-Fire fuel injection engine, and utilizing camshaft and 4" catalytic converter of the 5.7 L (350 cu in) L83 which was used on the Corvette of 1982 and 1984. Complete with a 2.75 inch exhaust system, topped by a recalibrated 4-barrel carburetor, dual snorkel air cleaner assembly, aluminum intake manifold, aluminum flywheel, electric cooling fan, and furthermore a knock sensor including more aggressive spark timing, this engine produced 190 hp (142 kW) @ 4800 and 240 lb·ft (325 N·m) of torque @ 3200 rpm. In most cases, being mated to a 3.73 or 3:42 ratio limited slip rear axle and a T5 5-speed or 700R4 automatic, this engine provided its driver with a wide range of rpm to play in.
LE9
Years: 1981-1986
The LE9 5 L (305 cu in) was the truck/van version of the High Output 305. It also had flattop pistons for a 9.5:1 compression ratio, the "929" truck 350 camshaft for more torque, 14022601 casting heads featuring 1.84/1.50" valves and 53 cc chambers, a specially calibrated 4bbl Q-Jet, the hybrid centrifugal/vacuum advance distributor with ESC knock sensor setup, and lower restriction exhaust. The engine made 210 hp (157 kW) @ 4,600 and 250 lb·ft (339 N·m) @ 2,000 rpm.
L03
Years: 1987-95
The L03 was the "low output" 5 L (305 cu in) (compared to the 305 TPI LB9). It produced 170 hp (127 kW) and 255 lb·ft (346 N·m) of torque (190 hp (142 kW) at 4,400 rpm and 275 lb·ft (373 N·m) at 2,400 in 1993-1995 GM trucks). This engine used throttle-body fuel injection. The TBI uses a unique injector firing scheme, for every rotation of the engine, each injector fired twice.
LB9
Years: 1985-1992
Introduced in 1985, the LB9 was the first Chevrolet small block to have tuned-port fuel injection (TPI). It was introduced with 215 hp (160 kW) and 275 lb·ft (373 N·m) and varied between 190 hp (142 kW)-230 hp (172 kW) (with 275 lb·ft (373 N·m)-300 lb·ft (407 N·m) of torque) over the years offered. It was an option on all 1985-1992 Chevrolet Camaro & Pontiac Firebird models.
350
Not to be confused with Buick V8 engine, Oldsmobile V8 engine, or Pontiac V8 engine.
The first generation of Chevrolet small-blocks began with the 1955 Chevrolet 265 cu in (4.3 L) V8. But it was the 350 cu in (5.7 L) series that came to be emblematic of the Chevrolet small block V8 engine. The engine's physical dimensions (oversquare 4.00-inch bore and 3.48-inch stroke, 102 mm by 88 mm) are nearly identical to the 400 hp (298 kW) LS2 engine of today, but much has changed. It is by far the most widely used Chevrolet small-block; it has been installed in everything from station wagons to sports cars, in commercial vehicles, and even in boats and (in highly modified form) airplanes.
First usage of the 350 was in the 1967 Chevrolet Camaro and 1968 Nova producing 295 horsepower (gross); other Chevrolet vehicle lines followed suit in the year 1969.
The GM Goodwrench 350 crate engine comes in several variations. The lowest priced uses the pre-1986 four-bolt casting molds with two dipstick locations; pre-1980 on the driver's side and post-1980 on the passenger's side. This engine was produced in Mexico since 1981 as the Targetmaster 350, and now the GM Goodwrench 350.
ZQ3
Years: 1969, 1970, 1972-1975
The ZQ3 was the standard engine in the 1969-1970 Chevrolet Corvette. It was a 300 hp (224 kW) version of the 350 cu in (5.7 L) small-block, with 10.25:1 compression and hydraulic lifters. It used a Rochester "4MV" Quadra-Jet 4-barrel carburetor. This was the first block produced that featured the larger 2.45 inch main bearing versus the older 2.30 inch main bearing in 1968/1969.
The 1969 ZQ3 produced 200 hp (149 kW) and 300 lb·ft (407 N·m) with 8.5:1 compression, dropping another 10 hp (7 kW) in 1973. 1975 saw the ZQ3 at 165 hp (123 kW) and 255 lb·ft (346 N·m).
L46
Years: 1969, 1970
The L46 was an optional engine on the 1969-1970 Chevrolet Corvette. It was a 350 hp (261 kW), 380 lb·ft (515 N·m) version of the ZQ3 with higher 11:1 compression.
LT-1
LT-1 from a 1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
Years: 1970-1972
The LT-1 was the ultimate 350 cu in (5.7 L) V8, becoming available in 1970. It used solid lifters, 11:1 compression, a high-performance camshaft, and a Holley four-barrel carburetor on a special aluminum intake to produce 370 hp (276 kW) and 380 lb·ft (515 N·m). It was available on the Corvette and Camaro Z28. Power was down in 1971 to 330 hp (246 kW) and 360 lb·ft (488 N·m) with 9:1 compression, and again in 1972 (the last year of the LT-1) to 255 hp (190 kW) and 280 lb·ft (380 N·m).
There was also a later small-block engine called the "LT1".
L48
Years: 1967-1980
The L-48 is the original 350 cu in (5.7 L), available only in the Camaro or Chevy II/Nova in '67 & '68. In '69 it was used in almost everything; Camaros, Corvettes, Impalas, Chevelles & Novas. From '75-'80 it was available only in the Corvette. L-48's use a Hyd Cam, 4bbl Qjet, Cast pistons, 2 bolt main caps, "Pink" Rods, #0014 Blocks & #993 heads. Power output ranges from 300HP(gross) down to 175HP(net).
The L48 was the standard engine in the 1971 Chevrolet Corvette. It produced 270 hp (201 kW) and 360 lb·ft (488 N·m) with an 8.5:1 compression ratio.
The 1976-1979 L48 was the standard Corvette engine and produced 180 hp (134 kW) and 270 lb·ft (366 N·m). The 1980 L48 stood at 190 hp (142 kW) and 280 lb·ft (380 N·m) from 8.2:1 compression.
In 1972 the only way to get a L48 (4bbl V8) in a Chevy Nova was to get the Super Sport Package. This is indicated by the 5th digit in the VIN being a "K". 1972 was the only year you could verify the Super Sport package by the VIN.
In 1973 the "L-48" had cold air induction (throttle activated) and developed 190 hp (142 kW) (net). Beginning in 1974 the hp was reduced for several years until it reached a low of 165 hp (123 kW) (net) in 1975, before rising again.
L82
Years: 1973-1980
The 1973-1974 L82 was a "performance" version of the 350 producing 250 hp (186 kW) and 285 lb·ft (386 N·m) from 9:1 compression. It was down to 205 hp (153 kW) and 255 lb·ft (346 N·m) for 1975. It was the optional engine again in 1976-1977, producing 5 hp (4 kW) more. The 1978 L82 recovered somewhat, producing 220 hp (164 kW) and 260 lb·ft (353 N·m), and then 5 hp (4 kW) and 10 lb·ft (14 N·m) more for 1979. 1980 saw yet another 10 hp (7 kW) and 15 lb·ft (20 N·m).
L81
Years: 1981
The L81 was the only 5.7 L (350 cu in) Corvette engine for 1981. It produced 190 hp (142 kW) and 280 lb·ft (380 N·m) from 8.2:1 compression, exactly the same as the 1980 L48, but added computer control spark advance, replacing the vacuum advance.
L83
Years: 1982, 1984
The 1982 L83 was again the only Corvette engine (and only available with an automatic transmission) producing 200 hp (149 kW) and 285 lb·ft (386 N·m) from 9:1 compression. This was again the only engine on the new 1984 Vette, at 205 hp (153 kW) and 290 lb·ft (393 N·m). The L83 added Cross-Fire fuel injection (twin throttle-body fuel injection).
L98
For the new Generation IV V8, see GM L98.
Years: 1985-1992
The new 1985 L98 added tuned-port fuel injection "TPI", which produced 230 hp (172 kW) and 330 lb·ft (447 N·m). It was standard on all 1985-1991 Corvettes (rated at 230 hp (172 kW)-250 hp (186 kW) and 330 lb·ft (447 N·m)-350 lb·ft (475 N·m)). Optional on 87-92 Chevrolet Camaro & Pontiac Firebird models (rated at 225 hp (168 kW)-245 hp (183 kW) and 330 lb·ft (447 N·m)-345 lb·ft (468 N·m)) 1987 versions had 10 hp (7 kW) and 15 lb·ft (20 N·m) more thanks to 9.5:1 compression. Compression was up again in 1991 to 10:1 but output stayed the same.
LM1
The LM1 is the base 5.7 L (350 cu in) with a 4-barrel carburetor (usually with a Rochester Quadrajet) in passenger cars until 1988. Throughout its lifespan, it received either a points, electronic, and/or computer-controlled spark system, to conventional and feedback carburetors.
LM1s were superseded with the LO5 powerplant after 1988.
L05
The L05 was introduced in 1987 for use in Chevrolet/GMC trucks in both the GMT400 (introduced in April 1987 as 1988 models) and the R/V series trucks such as the K5 Blazer, Suburban, and rounded-era pickups formerly classed as the C/K until 1996 which includes chassis cabs and 4-door crew cabs. Although usage was for trucks, vans, and 9C1-optioned Caprices, the L05 was also used with the following vehicles:
* 1992/1993 Buick Roadmaster sedan and station wagon
* 1991/1992 Cadillac Brougham (optional engine)
* 1993 Cadillac Fleetwood
* 1992/1993 Chevrolet Caprice Wagon (optional engine)
* 1993 Chevrolet Caprice LTZ
* 1992 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser Wagon (optional engine)
L05 usage was replaced by the GM LT1 after 1993 in GM B-Bodies until production ceased in 1996.
In mid 1996 the L05 was equipped with Vortec heads used in the 1996 G30.
L31
The L31 replaced the LO5 in 1996 - known as the Vortec 5700. Known as the GEN 1+, this was the final incarnation of the 1955-vintage small block, ending production in 2005 with the last vehicle being a Kodiak/Topkick HD truck. Volvo Penta and Mercury Marine still produces the L31. The "MARINE" intake is a potential upgrade for L31 trucks.
Wow Jessica you know a lot about the Chevy small-block v8 I am very impressed!!! ;D ;D
You to Al-B ;D ;D ;D
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Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 10:17 pm
Wow Jessica you know a lot about the Chevy small-block v8 I am very impressed!!! ;D ;D
You to Al-B ;D ;D ;D
Al-B taught me all about it. ;D
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Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 10:19 pm
That's quite detailed.
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Written By: Andria on 11/12/08 at 10:20 pm
Here is a website, especially since they are now in "the basement" and you aren't living with them - unless you enjoy living in your basement, and considering how you have described your house thus far, I am sure that it is not the "prime" spot to be. You have said you let your snakes and reptiles run freely, and that your house is an old house in disrepair - that means lead paint and lead pipes - very hazardous to both reptiles and amphibians..... Lead dust is everywhere when one does remodeling and dust settles so that means it goes down, basements are down and this is not!!!! a good situation. It is never advised to have reptiles, birds and fish around any renovations; let alone amphibians the most sensitive of all animals.... Still advise to move them out till you are through!!!
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=17+1913&aid=1611
Once again, I have read this post and read the linked article, and now my herps are living with my significant other's stepfather, who is nuts about reptiles and amphibians, to say the least. Fortunately, my possible mother-in-law-to-be is a veterinarian, so the idea of having snakes, lizards and frogs in their house is not unpleasant. They will be there for quite a long time, and of course, I will visit them regularly. By the way, I want to get a venomous snake of some kind, preferably a king cobra or a rattlesnake.
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Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 10:21 pm
^ QFT?
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Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 10:22 pm
^^ posting fail.
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Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 10:22 pm
Jess = 1000 karamels :)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 10:27 pm
Once again, I have read this post and read the linked article, and now my herps are living with my significant other's stepfather, who is nuts about reptiles and amphibians, to say the least. Fortunately, my possible mother-in-law-to-be is a veterinarian, so the idea of having snakes, lizards and frogs in their house is not unpleasant. They will be there for quite a long time, and of course, I will visit them regularly. By the way, I want to get a venomous snake of some kind, preferably a king cobra or a rattlesnake.
Herpes?
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Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 10:29 pm
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/08/18/movies/19snak.650.jpg
I've had it with these snakes on a plane!
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Written By: Tia on 11/12/08 at 10:31 pm
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A scooter is a style of two-wheeled motor vehicle traditionally defined by characteristics such as a step-through frame, wheels from 10" to 16" in diameter, and an engine mounted on the rear swingarm. Though throughout the history of scooters, there have been models which challenged or defied this definition, incorporating elements or designs from motorcycles (distinguished by a tank between the rider and handlebars and an engine located beneath the rider and to the front of the vehicle) and mopeds (which have pedals), developments over the past 20 years have broadened the "scooter" label to include a wide array of vehicles and designs featuring many different technologies and capabilities. Modern scooters cover a broad spectrum of designs: step-through or step-over frames, small or large wheels, front fairings or floor boards, and manual or automatic transmissions.
At one end of the current market, the Vespa LX series reflects the scooters' historical antecedents: small wheels, floor boards, front fairing, inner fairing storage. At the other end, the Honda Big Ruckus features no bodywork, floorboards or step-through frame, but is still classified as a scooter due to its smaller wheels and engine placement. The Piaggio MP3, with two front wheels (three wheels total) reflects the fluid nature of the scooter classification. Modern scooters have a wide range of engine displacements, from under 50 cc to over 799 cc, and some have engine locations in stark contrast to classic scooter design (e.g. Yamaha T-Max 500, Suzuki Burgman 650, Gilera GP800).
Generally the term "scooter" is not defined in law, as laws are based on characteristics such as engine size and power, and maximum speed. The United States Department of Transportation defines a scooter as having a platform for the operator's feet or has integrated footrests, and has a step-through architecture. In the U.S. and Europe, scooters are classified by vehicle codes as either "motorcycles" or, for those with 50cc or smaller engines, "mopeds." Each are subject to the applicable laws for their categorization.
Contents
* 1 Description
* 2 History
o 2.1 Early scooters
o 2.2 Scooters after World War II
o 2.3 Maxi-scooters
o 2.4 Electric scooters
* 3 Popularity
* 4 Footnotes
* 5 See also
Description
1956 Allstate Scooter
The classic scooter design features a step-through frame and a flat floorboard for the rider's feet. This design is possible because the scooter engine and the drive system transferring power to the rear wheel is attached to the rear axle or under the seat. Unlike a motorcycle, in which the engine is mounted on the frame, this front-hinged arrangement allows the engine to swing vertically together with the rear wheel. Most vintage scooters and some newer retro models have axle-mounted engines with a manual transmission and the gear shift and clutch controls built into the left handlebar. Most newer scooters use a Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT).
Unlike most motorcycles, scooters usually feature bodywork, including a front leg shield and body that conceals all or most of the mechanicals. There is often some integral storage space, either under the seat, built into the front leg shield, or both. Most modern motor scooters have smaller wheels than motorcycles, 12 to 15 inches (30 to 37.5 cm) in diameter, although maxi- and big-wheel scooters may have larger wheels. Most scooters have smaller engines than motorcycles, 50 cc to 400 cc with a single cylinder, although larger models have twin cylinder 400 to 800 cc. motors.
Most jurisdictions have no legal definition for scooters, and instead classify scooters with engines smaller than 50 cc as mopeds, and subject them to lower safety restrictions and licensing fees. Scooters above 50 cc are usually legally considered motorcycles, although some jurisdictions have an in-between definition for motorized bike for scooters and motorcycles between 50 and 150 cc.
Until recently, most modern motor scooters came with air-cooled two-stroke cycle engines with automatic two-stroke oil injection although some of the higher spec small ones and large ones are water cooled, such as the Honda FC50, the 2002 Yamaha YQ50. Scooters increasingly have four-stroke engines, such as Honda GY6, to meet stricter emissions controls. Trends around the world have seen new variations on the classic scooter, some with larger engines and tires. High-end scooter models now include comprehensive technological features, including cast aluminum frames, engines with integral counter-balancing, and cross-linked brake systems. Some of these scooters have comfort features such as an alarm, start button, radio, windshield, heated hand grips and full instrumentation (including clock or outside temperature gauge).
In an effort to reduce emissions, there are now LPG powered scooters that run on liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) instead of gasoline or diesel. High-powered electric road scooters are on the horizon since small electric motorcycles like the Vectrix, e-max, and the eGO have been released.
History
Early scooters
1894 Hildebrand & Wolfmüller
Scooter-like traits began to develop in motorcycle designs around the 1900s. In 1894, Hildebrand & Wolfmüller produced the first successful two-wheeler, with a step-through frame. Its fuel tank was mounted on the down tube, its parallel two-cylinder engine was mounted low on the frame, and its cylinders moved fore-and-aft. It was water-cooled and had a radiator built into the top of the rear fender. It became the first mass produced and publicly sold powered two-wheel vehicle, and among the first powered mainly by engine rather than foot pedals. Maximum speed was 40 km/h (25 mph). The rear wheel was driven by pistons similar to those in a locomotive. Only a few hundred such bikes were built, and the high price and technical difficulties made the venture a financial failure for both Wolfmüller and his financial backer, Hildebrand.
In France, the Auto-Fauteuil was produced since 1902. In United States, the Motoped is believed to be the first scooter to enter production, in 1910.
1919 Autoped Ever Ready
Since 1914, the Autoped Company of Long Island City, New York produced a compact scooter for short trips. The driver stood on a short platform with 15-inch tires. After riding, the steering column, which contained all operating controls, was folded over the platform to store the scooter in a compact space. The engine was an air-cooled, 4-stroke, 155 cc engine over the front wheel. The bike came with a headlamp and tail lamp, a Klaxon horn, and a toolbox. Developed during wartime and gasoline rationing, it was quite efficient, but did not achieve widespread distribution.
In 1919, British engineer Granville Bradshaw created the ABC Skootamoto which had a seat. Its single-cylinder 123 cc OHV engine, designed by Bradshaw, sits above the rear wheel and drives it by chain. The pansaddle and spacious footboard provide comfort. The Skootamota is a rare archetype of modern motor scooters. Bradshaw also designed a few other special engines, such as the ABC flat twins, the oil-cooled singles and the engine of the Panther Panthette.
The Kenilworth is another classic vintage scooter made in England in 1919. Powered by a 142 cc overhead valve engine, it reached 20 mph (32 km/h). Electric lights were a first on this machine, but its brakes worked exactly as on a bicycle.
Salsbury's Motor Glide was a tiny motorbike built in 1936 in the back of a plumbing and heating shop in Oakland, California, by E. Foster Salsbury and inventor Austin Elmore. It had an enclosed body and an automatic transmission. It was such a success that in 1938 Salsbury attempted to license the design to several European manufacturers including Piaggio. The Motor Glide was the first depression era scooter, and set the standards for all later models. It inspired production of motor scooters by Powell, Moto-scoot, Cushman, Rock-Ola, and others. Salsbury produced the first automatic scooter with a continuously variable transmission (CVT).
Cushman three-wheel scooter based on step-through frame
The Cushman Company produced motor scooters from 1936 to 1965. Light, compact, and rugged, they were widely used by the US military in World War II and as an alternative to automobiles in the years before and after the war. Cushmans were easy to ride and had an automatic clutch which allowed the rider to twist the right grip to go and step on the pedal to stop. The step-through design and ease of operation made it popular with men and women alike. Cushman claimed an efficiency of 75 miles per gallon, and a penny-a-mile operating cost. The scooters usually weighted about 250 to 335 pounds (110-152 kg) and some had as much as 9 horsepower (6.7 kW). The most successful Cushman model, the Eagle, was produced for about 16 years. With its exposed engine and top tanks, it resembled a motorcycle. Other Cushman models used a traditional step-through design of most motor scooters. One of the most famous was the “Model 53”, a military model from the World War II era. It was designed to be dropped by parachute with Army Airborne troops, so it became known as the “Cushman Airborne”. It was also used around military bases for messenger service.
Scooters after World War II
Mitsubishi Silver Pigeon
After World War II, most wartime aircraft manufacturers began producing scooters, and this created the first two-wheeler boom in Japan. The Mitsubishi Silver Pigeon was a scooter largely made of warplane wheels and discarded warplane parts. It eventually shared popularity with the Fuji Rabbit, a motor scooter produced in Japan by Fuji Heavy Industries from 1946 to 1968. Production of the initial model, the S-1 began in 1946, some six months before the Vespa and was largely inspired by scooters used by American servicemen during and after World War II. Fuji Rabbit were the first Japanese-made scooters that could exceed 60 mph (97 km/h). Later models were among the most technologically sophisticated of their era, featuring electric starters, automatic transmissions and pneumatic suspension systems. As the Japanese economy expanded, demand for scooters shrunk, and Fuji diversified into automobiles in 1958. Although less known outside Japan, the Fuji Rabbit became a symbol of nostalgia in Japanese pop culture.
In post-World War II Italy the Piaggio Vespa became the standard for scooters around the world for 35 years. Patented in April 1946, it used aircraft design and materials. D’Ascanio's 98 cc scooter had various radical design concepts, including a sleek, stress-bearing structure. The gear shift lever was moved to the handlebars for easier riding. The engine was placed near the rear wheel, eliminating the belt drive. The typical fork support was replaced by an arm similar to an aircraft carriage for easier tire-changing. The elegantly styled body protected the driver from wind and road dirt, and bore little resemblance to uncomfortable and noisy motorcycles. The smaller wheels and shorter wheelbase provide improved maneuverability through narrow streets and congested traffic. Combining the best elements of automotive, aeronautical and motorcycle design, the Vespa quickly became an icon of design and economy. The name reportedly originated when Piaggio's president upon seeing the prototype, remarked "Sembra una vespa", "It looks like a wasp".
1952 Lambretta 125 D
Months after the Vespa, in 1947, Innocenti introduced the Lambretta, beginning a rivalry with Vespa. The scooter was designed by Innocenti, his General Director Giuseppe Lauro and engineer Pierluigi Torre. It debuted in 1947 at the Paris Motor Show. The Lambretta 'A' went on sale on December 23rd 1947 and sold sold 9,000 units in one year. It was efficient, 160-180 mpg (miles per gallon) or 68-76 km/litre, at a time when petrol was severely rationed. It had a top speed of 45 mph (72 km/h), and a direct air-cooled engine with 123 cc. The Lambretta was named after the Milanese neighborhood where the factory stood.
The Maicoletta motor scooter of the 1950s was one of the largest produced in that era. The engine was a single cylinder 247 cc piston port 2-stroke (277 cc for use with a sidecar), with four foot-operated gears and centrifugal fan cooling. The tubular frame was built on motorcycle principles, with long travel telescopic forks and 14-inch wheels. The Maicoletta had a top speed of 70 mph (110 km/h) which was comparable with most 250 cc motorcycles of the time.
Germany's aviation industry was also dismantled after World War II. Heinkel stayed in business by making bicycles and motorbikes. The Heinkel Tourist was a large and relatively heavy touring scooter produced in the 1960s. It provided good weather protection with a full fairing and the front wheel turned under a fixed nose extension. It had effective streamlining, perhaps thanks to its aircraft ancestry. Although it had only a 175 cc 4 stroke motor, it could sustain speeds of 70 mph (110 km/h). Heinkel scooters were known for their reliability.
Zündapp Bella R 154 from 1958
The Zündapp Bella was the most popular German scooter in the 1960s. It was in production for about ten years, in three engine sizes, 150 cc, 175 cc and 200 cc. They could perform all day at a steady speed of 60 mph (97 km/h). Extremely reliable and very well made, many of these scooters still exist today.
In the US, the Harley-Davidson Topper scooter was produced from 1960 to 1965. It had a fiberglass body and a pull-cord starting mechanism much like a lawn mower. It had a 165 cc DKW gas motor, a variant of the DKW 125 cc gas motor taken by the US from Germany in a war reparations deal. It only went 40 mph (64 km/h), and had no front brake. Very few units were sold. Harley-Davidson has not produced other scooter models, but smaller models, including the Shortster and Sprint, produced by Italian manufacturer Aeronautica Macchi S.P.A.. were in America under the Harley-Davidson name.
In England in 1962, the Triumph Tigress was a luxury scooter with good performance and handling like a motorcycle, drawing on Triumph's long experience of building fast motorcycles. It was sold with a 175 cc 2-stroke single engine, or a 250 cc 4-stroke twin. Both had four foot-operated gears. The 250 twin sold well and could reach 70 mph (112 km/h) with efficient suspension and good roadholding despite having only 10-inch wheels. But the Tigress broke often. The BSA Sunbeam was an identical machine with the BSA label.
1983 Honda Beat
In the 1980s new versions of scooters began to be released and become popular, especially in Japan and far-east Asia. This style of scooters began to reflect that of larger, sporty, higher-performance motorcycles of the time and the trend has continued till now. With the release of the Honda Ruckus, new trends towards dirt-bike scooters are just beginning. In 1988, Honda introduced a large, touring scooter design, the 250 cc Helix (also called Spazio, Fusion or CN250). Although it was bulky to handle at low speeds and was derisively called a "Barcalounger on wheels", it was designed for riding long distances in comfort. Now nearly all major scooter manufacturers produce such models, called "maxi", "GT" or "touring" scooters. The largest scooter made is now the 840 cc Gilera GP 800, a 75 CV scooter capable of reaching 100 km/h (62 mph) in 5.7 seconds.
A modern Honda Jazz.
The classic styling of the Vespa never lost its popularity, and remains the most popular and most imitated scooter design. Almost all manufacturers now carry both a classic/retro model and a sporty/modern model.
Maxi-scooters
Honda CN250 Helix
Another trend is toward larger scooters, called maxi-scooters, with engines ranging in size from 250 cc up to the latest 839 cc machine (the Gilera GP 800), and using larger frames than the normal sized scooters. This trend began in 1985 when Honda introduced the CH250 Elite/Spacy. A few years later, Suzuki launched the Burgman 650. Honda (600 cc), Piaggio, Yamaha, Aprilia, Kymco (700 cc) and others have also introduced scooters with engine displacements ranging from 400 to 850 cc. Honda's PS250 (also known as Big Ruckus) defies common scooter classification because its step-through is high and it features a motorcycle-like exoskeleton instead of bodywork.
The more advanced and expensive maxi-scooters differ from traditional scooters in that the engine is mounted on the frame, as opposed to the swing-arm. This arrangement can improve the handling, by allowing the centre of gravity to be moved forwar and by making fewer demands on the rear shock absorber(s). A final drive is necessary to connect the clutch assembly to the rear wheel. This trend toward larger, more powerful scooters with fully automatic transmissions is matched by an emerging trend in motorcycle design that foreshadows automatic transmission motorcycles with on-board storage. This is exemplified by the Aprilia NA 850 Mana automatic-transmission motorcycle that provides built-in storage for a full-face helmet.
Electric scooters
In 1996, Peugeot launched the Scoot'Elec, the first electric moped. It is powered by a 2.8 kW (4 hp) DC motor fed by an 18V, 100Ah battery made of 3 Saft nickel-cadmium "monoblocs". A lot of body panels and suspension parts come from Peugeot's entry-level gas scooter, the Zenith. However, the frame is different, built around a "double cradle", and holding the batteries low between and behind the driver's feet. Under the seat are the electronic controller, onboard charger and a curly charging cable with a standard plug. The fast on-board charger (1,400 Watt) uses a 230V power supply. The batteries charge from empty to 95% full in two hours, with 3 more hours to equalize.
Popularity
In many parts of the world, such as Asia and Europe, motor scooters are a popular form of urban transportation due to their low cost and easy driving position. In fact, in many nations in Asia, scooter sales growth outpaces automobile sales growth. For many people, a motor scooter is the family vehicle until sufficient funds to purchase an automobile are amassed, although in crowded cities, scooters can be preferred over automobiles (regardless of cost) due to parking, storage, and traffic issues.
In Taiwan, road infrastructure have been built specifically with two wheelers in mind, with separate lanes and intersection turn boxes. In Thailand, scooters are used for street to door taxi services, as well as for navigating through heavy traffic. Motor scooters are popular because of their size, fuel-efficiency, weight, and typically larger storage room than a motorcycle. In many localities, certain road motor scooters are considered by law to be in the same class as mopeds or small motorcycles and therefore they have fewer restrictions than do larger motorcycles.
According to the Motorcycle Industry Council, sales of motor scooters in the United States have more than doubled since 2000. The motorcycle industry as a whole has seen 13 years of consecutive growth. According to council figures, 42,000 scooters were sold in 2000. By 2004, that number increased to 97,000.
The Piaggio MP3.
In the last few years, new technology has emerged, such as fuel-injected scooters, which are efficient and durable. Aprilia released the SR50 Ditech in 2001. The fuel consumption of this direct injection scooter is one litre of fuel for 50 kilometres of driving (117mpg). Later on, more brands, such as Derbi and Peugeot, started using direct injection systems for their scooters.
Due to new environmental laws, scooters had to change because the Euro3 standard allows only four-stroke engines. This has met with opposition from many scooter riders who favor the two-stroke engine's superior power-to-weight ratio, especially in smaller size ranges. While four-stroke engines generally perform sufficiently in sizes from 100 cc upward, 50 cc four-strokes tend to have barely enough power to drive at city speeds.
Footnotes
1. ^ 571.123
2. ^ e-max ev's Germany Ltd. - High performance electric scooter
3. ^ Home: eGO Vehicles
4. ^ Is a motor scooter in your future? - Life - MSNBC.com
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A scooter is a style of two-wheeled motor vehicle traditionally defined by characteristics such as a step-through frame, wheels from 10" to 16" in diameter, and an engine mounted on the rear swingarm. Though throughout the history of scooters, there have been models which challenged or defied this definition, incorporating elements or designs from motorcycles (distinguished by a tank between the rider and handlebars and an engine located beneath the rider and to the front of the vehicle) and mopeds (which have pedals), developments over the past 20 years have broadened the "scooter" label to include a wide array of vehicles and designs featuring many different technologies and capabilities. Modern scooters cover a broad spectrum of designs: step-through or step-over frames, small or large wheels, front fairings or floor boards, and manual or automatic transmissions.
At one end of the current market, the Vespa LX series reflects the scooters' historical antecedents: small wheels, floor boards, front fairing, inner fairing storage. At the other end, the Honda Big Ruckus features no bodywork, floorboards or step-through frame, but is still classified as a scooter due to its smaller wheels and engine placement. The Piaggio MP3, with two front wheels (three wheels total) reflects the fluid nature of the scooter classification. Modern scooters have a wide range of engine displacements, from under 50 cc to over 799 cc, and some have engine locations in stark contrast to classic scooter design (e.g. Yamaha T-Max 500, Suzuki Burgman 650, Gilera GP800).
Generally the term "scooter" is not defined in law, as laws are based on characteristics such as engine size and power, and maximum speed. The United States Department of Transportation defines a scooter as having a platform for the operator's feet or has integrated footrests, and has a step-through architecture. In the U.S. and Europe, scooters are classified by vehicle codes as either "motorcycles" or, for those with 50cc or smaller engines, "mopeds." Each are subject to the applicable laws for their categorization.
Contents
* 1 Description
* 2 History
o 2.1 Early scooters
o 2.2 Scooters after World War II
o 2.3 Maxi-scooters
o 2.4 Electric scooters
* 3 Popularity
* 4 Footnotes
* 5 See also
Description
1956 Allstate Scooter
The classic scooter design features a step-through frame and a flat floorboard for the rider's feet. This design is possible because the scooter engine and the drive system transferring power to the rear wheel is attached to the rear axle or under the seat. Unlike a motorcycle, in which the engine is mounted on the frame, this front-hinged arrangement allows the engine to swing vertically together with the rear wheel. Most vintage scooters and some newer retro models have axle-mounted engines with a manual transmission and the gear shift and clutch controls built into the left handlebar. Most newer scooters use a Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT).
Unlike most motorcycles, scooters usually feature bodywork, including a front leg shield and body that conceals all or most of the mechanicals. There is often some integral storage space, either under the seat, built into the front leg shield, or both. Most modern motor scooters have smaller wheels than motorcycles, 12 to 15 inches (30 to 37.5 cm) in diameter, although maxi- and big-wheel scooters may have larger wheels. Most scooters have smaller engines than motorcycles, 50 cc to 400 cc with a single cylinder, although larger models have twin cylinder 400 to 800 cc. motors.
Most jurisdictions have no legal definition for scooters, and instead classify scooters with engines smaller than 50 cc as mopeds, and subject them to lower safety restrictions and licensing fees. Scooters above 50 cc are usually legally considered motorcycles, although some jurisdictions have an in-between definition for motorized bike for scooters and motorcycles between 50 and 150 cc.
Until recently, most modern motor scooters came with air-cooled two-stroke cycle engines with automatic two-stroke oil injection although some of the higher spec small ones and large ones are water cooled, such as the Honda FC50, the 2002 Yamaha YQ50. Scooters increasingly have four-stroke engines, such as Honda GY6, to meet stricter emissions controls. Trends around the world have seen new variations on the classic scooter, some with larger engines and tires. High-end scooter models now include comprehensive technological features, including cast aluminum frames, engines with integral counter-balancing, and cross-linked brake systems. Some of these scooters have comfort features such as an alarm, start button, radio, windshield, heated hand grips and full instrumentation (including clock or outside temperature gauge).
In an effort to reduce emissions, there are now LPG powered scooters that run on liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) instead of gasoline or diesel. High-powered electric road scooters are on the horizon since small electric motorcycles like the Vectrix, e-max, and the eGO have been released.
History
Early scooters
1894 Hildebrand & Wolfmüller
Scooter-like traits began to develop in motorcycle designs around the 1900s. In 1894, Hildebrand & Wolfmüller produced the first successful two-wheeler, with a step-through frame. Its fuel tank was mounted on the down tube, its parallel two-cylinder engine was mounted low on the frame, and its cylinders moved fore-and-aft. It was water-cooled and had a radiator built into the top of the rear fender. It became the first mass produced and publicly sold powered two-wheel vehicle, and among the first powered mainly by engine rather than foot pedals. Maximum speed was 40 km/h (25 mph). The rear wheel was driven by pistons similar to those in a locomotive. Only a few hundred such bikes were built, and the high price and technical difficulties made the venture a financial failure for both Wolfmüller and his financial backer, Hildebrand.
In France, the Auto-Fauteuil was produced since 1902. In United States, the Motoped is believed to be the first scooter to enter production, in 1910.
1919 Autoped Ever Ready
Since 1914, the Autoped Company of Long Island City, New York produced a compact scooter for short trips. The driver stood on a short platform with 15-inch tires. After riding, the steering column, which contained all operating controls, was folded over the platform to store the scooter in a compact space. The engine was an air-cooled, 4-stroke, 155 cc engine over the front wheel. The bike came with a headlamp and tail lamp, a Klaxon horn, and a toolbox. Developed during wartime and gasoline rationing, it was quite efficient, but did not achieve widespread distribution.
In 1919, British engineer Granville Bradshaw created the ABC Skootamoto which had a seat. Its single-cylinder 123 cc OHV engine, designed by Bradshaw, sits above the rear wheel and drives it by chain. The pansaddle and spacious footboard provide comfort. The Skootamota is a rare archetype of modern motor scooters. Bradshaw also designed a few other special engines, such as the ABC flat twins, the oil-cooled singles and the engine of the Panther Panthette.
The Kenilworth is another classic vintage scooter made in England in 1919. Powered by a 142 cc overhead valve engine, it reached 20 mph (32 km/h). Electric lights were a first on this machine, but its brakes worked exactly as on a bicycle.
Salsbury's Motor Glide was a tiny motorbike built in 1936 in the back of a plumbing and heating shop in Oakland, California, by E. Foster Salsbury and inventor Austin Elmore. It had an enclosed body and an automatic transmission. It was such a success that in 1938 Salsbury attempted to license the design to several European manufacturers including Piaggio. The Motor Glide was the first depression era scooter, and set the standards for all later models. It inspired production of motor scooters by Powell, Moto-scoot, Cushman, Rock-Ola, and others. Salsbury produced the first automatic scooter with a continuously variable transmission (CVT).
Cushman three-wheel scooter based on step-through frame
The Cushman Company produced motor scooters from 1936 to 1965. Light, compact, and rugged, they were widely used by the US military in World War II and as an alternative to automobiles in the years before and after the war. Cushmans were easy to ride and had an automatic clutch which allowed the rider to twist the right grip to go and step on the pedal to stop. The step-through design and ease of operation made it popular with men and women alike. Cushman claimed an efficiency of 75 miles per gallon, and a penny-a-mile operating cost. The scooters usually weighted about 250 to 335 pounds (110-152 kg) and some had as much as 9 horsepower (6.7 kW). The most successful Cushman model, the Eagle, was produced for about 16 years. With its exposed engine and top tanks, it resembled a motorcycle. Other Cushman models used a traditional step-through design of most motor scooters. One of the most famous was the “Model 53”, a military model from the World War II era. It was designed to be dropped by parachute with Army Airborne troops, so it became known as the “Cushman Airborne”. It was also used around military bases for messenger service.
Scooters after World War II
Mitsubishi Silver Pigeon
After World War II, most wartime aircraft manufacturers began producing scooters, and this created the first two-wheeler boom in Japan. The Mitsubishi Silver Pigeon was a scooter largely made of warplane wheels and discarded warplane parts. It eventually shared popularity with the Fuji Rabbit, a motor scooter produced in Japan by Fuji Heavy Industries from 1946 to 1968. Production of the initial model, the S-1 began in 1946, some six months before the Vespa and was largely inspired by scooters used by American servicemen during and after World War II. Fuji Rabbit were the first Japanese-made scooters that could exceed 60 mph (97 km/h). Later models were among the most technologically sophisticated of their era, featuring electric starters, automatic transmissions and pneumatic suspension systems. As the Japanese economy expanded, demand for scooters shrunk, and Fuji diversified into automobiles in 1958. Although less known outside Japan, the Fuji Rabbit became a symbol of nostalgia in Japanese pop culture.
In post-World War II Italy the Piaggio Vespa became the standard for scooters around the world for 35 years. Patented in April 1946, it used aircraft design and materials. D’Ascanio's 98 cc scooter had various radical design concepts, including a sleek, stress-bearing structure. The gear shift lever was moved to the handlebars for easier riding. The engine was placed near the rear wheel, eliminating the belt drive. The typical fork support was replaced by an arm similar to an aircraft carriage for easier tire-changing. The elegantly styled body protected the driver from wind and road dirt, and bore little resemblance to uncomfortable and noisy motorcycles. The smaller wheels and shorter wheelbase provide improved maneuverability through narrow streets and congested traffic. Combining the best elements of automotive, aeronautical and motorcycle design, the Vespa quickly became an icon of design and economy. The name reportedly originated when Piaggio's president upon seeing the prototype, remarked "Sembra una vespa", "It looks like a wasp".
1952 Lambretta 125 D
Months after the Vespa, in 1947, Innocenti introduced the Lambretta, beginning a rivalry with Vespa. The scooter was designed by Innocenti, his General Director Giuseppe Lauro and engineer Pierluigi Torre. It debuted in 1947 at the Paris Motor Show. The Lambretta 'A' went on sale on December 23rd 1947 and sold sold 9,000 units in one year. It was efficient, 160-180 mpg (miles per gallon) or 68-76 km/litre, at a time when petrol was severely rationed. It had a top speed of 45 mph (72 km/h), and a direct air-cooled engine with 123 cc. The Lambretta was named after the Milanese neighborhood where the factory stood.
The Maicoletta motor scooter of the 1950s was one of the largest produced in that era. The engine was a single cylinder 247 cc piston port 2-stroke (277 cc for use with a sidecar), with four foot-operated gears and centrifugal fan cooling. The tubular frame was built on motorcycle principles, with long travel telescopic forks and 14-inch wheels. The Maicoletta had a top speed of 70 mph (110 km/h) which was comparable with most 250 cc motorcycles of the time.
Germany's aviation industry was also dismantled after World War II. Heinkel stayed in business by making bicycles and motorbikes. The Heinkel Tourist was a large and relatively heavy touring scooter produced in the 1960s. It provided good weather protection with a full fairing and the front wheel turned under a fixed nose extension. It had effective streamlining, perhaps thanks to its aircraft ancestry. Although it had only a 175 cc 4 stroke motor, it could sustain speeds of 70 mph (110 km/h). Heinkel scooters were known for their reliability.
Zündapp Bella R 154 from 1958
The Zündapp Bella was the most popular German scooter in the 1960s. It was in production for about ten years, in three engine sizes, 150 cc, 175 cc and 200 cc. They could perform all day at a steady speed of 60 mph (97 km/h). Extremely reliable and very well made, many of these scooters still exist today.
In the US, the Harley-Davidson Topper scooter was produced from 1960 to 1965. It had a fiberglass body and a pull-cord starting mechanism much like a lawn mower. It had a 165 cc DKW gas motor, a variant of the DKW 125 cc gas motor taken by the US from Germany in a war reparations deal. It only went 40 mph (64 km/h), and had no front brake. Very few units were sold. Harley-Davidson has not produced other scooter models, but smaller models, including the Shortster and Sprint, produced by Italian manufacturer Aeronautica Macchi S.P.A.. were in America under the Harley-Davidson name.
In England in 1962, the Triumph Tigress was a luxury scooter with good performance and handling like a motorcycle, drawing on Triumph's long experience of building fast motorcycles. It was sold with a 175 cc 2-stroke single engine, or a 250 cc 4-stroke twin. Both had four foot-operated gears. The 250 twin sold well and could reach 70 mph (112 km/h) with efficient suspension and good roadholding despite having only 10-inch wheels. But the Tigress broke often. The BSA Sunbeam was an identical machine with the BSA label.
1983 Honda Beat
In the 1980s new versions of scooters began to be released and become popular, especially in Japan and far-east Asia. This style of scooters began to reflect that of larger, sporty, higher-performance motorcycles of the time and the trend has continued till now. With the release of the Honda Ruckus, new trends towards dirt-bike scooters are just beginning. In 1988, Honda introduced a large, touring scooter design, the 250 cc Helix (also called Spazio, Fusion or CN250). Although it was bulky to handle at low speeds and was derisively called a "Barcalounger on wheels", it was designed for riding long distances in comfort. Now nearly all major scooter manufacturers produce such models, called "maxi", "GT" or "touring" scooters. The largest scooter made is now the 840 cc Gilera GP 800, a 75 CV scooter capable of reaching 100 km/h (62 mph) in 5.7 seconds.
A modern Honda Jazz.
The classic styling of the Vespa never lost its popularity, and remains the most popular and most imitated scooter design. Almost all manufacturers now carry both a classic/retro model and a sporty/modern model.
Maxi-scooters
Honda CN250 Helix
Another trend is toward larger scooters, called maxi-scooters, with engines ranging in size from 250 cc up to the latest 839 cc machine (the Gilera GP 800), and using larger frames than the normal sized scooters. This trend began in 1985 when Honda introduced the CH250 Elite/Spacy. A few years later, Suzuki launched the Burgman 650. Honda (600 cc), Piaggio, Yamaha, Aprilia, Kymco (700 cc) and others have also introduced scooters with engine displacements ranging from 400 to 850 cc. Honda's PS250 (also known as Big Ruckus) defies common scooter classification because its step-through is high and it features a motorcycle-like exoskeleton instead of bodywork.
The more advanced and expensive maxi-scooters differ from traditional scooters in that the engine is mounted on the frame, as opposed to the swing-arm. This arrangement can improve the handling, by allowing the centre of gravity to be moved forwar and by making fewer demands on the rear shock absorber(s). A final drive is necessary to connect the clutch assembly to the rear wheel. This trend toward larger, more powerful scooters with fully automatic transmissions is matched by an emerging trend in motorcycle design that foreshadows automatic transmission motorcycles with on-board storage. This is exemplified by the Aprilia NA 850 Mana automatic-transmission motorcycle that provides built-in storage for a full-face helmet.
Electric scooters
In 1996, Peugeot launched the Scoot'Elec, the first electric moped. It is powered by a 2.8 kW (4 hp) DC motor fed by an 18V, 100Ah battery made of 3 Saft nickel-cadmium "monoblocs". A lot of body panels and suspension parts come from Peugeot's entry-level gas scooter, the Zenith. However, the frame is different, built around a "double cradle", and holding the batteries low between and behind the driver's feet. Under the seat are the electronic controller, onboard charger and a curly charging cable with a standard plug. The fast on-board charger (1,400 Watt) uses a 230V power supply. The batteries charge from empty to 95% full in two hours, with 3 more hours to equalize.
Popularity
In many parts of the world, such as Asia and Europe, motor scooters are a popular form of urban transportation due to their low cost and easy driving position. In fact, in many nations in Asia, scooter sales growth outpaces automobile sales growth. For many people, a motor scooter is the family vehicle until sufficient funds to purchase an automobile are amassed, although in crowded cities, scooters can be preferred over automobiles (regardless of cost) due to parking, storage, and traffic issues.
In Taiwan, road infrastructure have been built specifically with two wheelers in mind, with separate lanes and intersection turn boxes. In Thailand, scooters are used for street to door taxi services, as well as for navigating through heavy traffic. Motor scooters are popular because of their size, fuel-efficiency, weight, and typically larger storage room than a motorcycle. In many localities, certain road motor scooters are considered by law to be in the same class as mopeds or small motorcycles and therefore they have fewer restrictions than do larger motorcycles.
According to the Motorcycle Industry Council, sales of motor scooters in the United States have more than doubled since 2000. The motorcycle industry as a whole has seen 13 years of consecutive growth. According to council figures, 42,000 scooters were sold in 2000. By 2004, that number increased to 97,000.
The Piaggio MP3.
In the last few years, new technology has emerged, such as fuel-injected scooters, which are efficient and durable. Aprilia released the SR50 Ditech in 2001. The fuel consumption of this direct injection scooter is one litre of fuel for 50 kilometres of driving (117mpg). Later on, more brands, such as Derbi and Peugeot, started using direct injection systems for their scooters.
Due to new environmental laws, scooters had to change because the Euro3 standard allows only four-stroke engines. This has met with opposition from many scooter riders who favor the two-stroke engine's superior power-to-weight ratio, especially in smaller size ranges. While four-stroke engines generally perform sufficiently in sizes from 100 cc upward, 50 cc four-strokes tend to have barely enough power to drive at city speeds.
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1. ^ 571.123
2. ^ e-max ev's Germany Ltd. - High performance electric scooter
3. ^ Home: eGO Vehicles
4. ^ Is a motor scooter in your future? - Life - MSNBC.com
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WOW you know a lot about the Vespa Tia, karma ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/12/08 at 10:44 pm
Wow quick move, and now a Veterinarian in the family... I am soooo impressed! I am surprised that none of this was mentioned earlier? :-\\ :-\\ :-\\
With your luck and careless attitude towards life, poisonous snakes would definitely be to your liking.... but maybe not to their health. And you may want to consult with a lawyer, or your mother-in-law, as in many states they are illegal to own (along with too many exotic animals - you could be in violation of the USDA ).... But I am sure you know all of this...
Actually, my potential future in-laws live on the next street over from me, so it was fairly easy to put all the tanks, the food and the other supplies into my car and drive to their house, and my possible future mother-in-law was falsely accused of selling Ketamine and other drugs to a Mexican drug cartel and just got her license back last year.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 10:45 pm
Just what we need...a Druish scooter...
Actually, my potential future in-laws live on the next street over from me, so it was fairly easy to put all the tanks, the food and the other supplies into my car and drive to their house, and my possible future mother-in-law was falsely accused of selling Ketamine and other drugs to a Mexican drug cartel and just got her license back last year.
Let's advertise our family's illicit activities on the internet! :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 10:50 pm
Actually, my potential future in-laws live on the next street over from me, so it was fairly easy to put all the tanks, the food and the other supplies into my car and drive to their house, and my possible future mother-in-law was falsely accused of selling Ketamine and other drugs to a Mexican drug cartel and just got her license back last year.
Oh my f*cking God........
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Moderator note: Added extra row of rolling eyes for effect
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 10:54 pm
Actually, my potential future in-laws live on the next street over from me, so it was fairly easy to put all the tanks, the food and the other supplies into my car and drive to their house, and my possible future mother-in-law was falsely accused of selling Ketamine and other drugs to a Mexican drug cartel and just got her license back last year.
18 animals in 6 minute (from the time I posted the web page, to the time you responded that they were at your parents) with at least 12 of those animals that should be in different cages (for their safety) in a car???? Wow my bearded dragon requires a 90 gallon tank, let alone a python?? Those are some big tanks??? Just my thoughts
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/12/08 at 10:56 pm
Herpes?
Herp (plural is "herps"): A slang synonym for "reptile", derived from "herpetology", the study of reptiles.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/12/08 at 10:58 pm
18 animals in 6 minute (from the time I posted the web page, to the time you responded that they were at your parents) with at least 12 of those animals that should be in different cages (for their safety) in a car???? Wow my bearded dragon requires a 90 gallon tank, let alone a python?? Those are some big tanks??? Just my thoughts
I had help from my neighbor Wallace and his son, who was visiting him. I forgot to mention that some of the tanks went into Wallace's pickup and into his son's minivan. I felt like I had to explain, so I did :)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 11:00 pm
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo308/Psycho_Saturn/Lolcats/Attention.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 11:02 pm
I had help from my neighbor Wallace and his son, who was visiting him. I forgot to mention that some of the tanks went into Wallace's pickup and into his son's minivan. I felt like I had to explain, so I did :)
http://kmwithlori.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/wallacegromit.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/12/08 at 11:06 pm
Once Mother said "My litle pet"
you ought to learn your alphabet
So in my soup I used to get
All the letters of the alphabet
I learned them all from A to Z
And now my Mothers giving me
Animal crackers in my soup
Monkeys and rabbits loop the loop
Gosh oh gee but I have fun
Swallowing animals one by one
In every bowl of soup I see
Lions and Tigers watching me
I make 'em jump right through a hoop
Those animal crackers in my soup
When I get hold of the big bad wolf
I just push him under to drown
Then I bite him in a million bits
And I gobble him right down
When their inside me where its dark
I walk around like Noahs Arc
I stuff my tummy like a goop
With animal crackers in my soup
Animal crackers in my soup
Do funny things to me
They make me think my neighbourhood
Is a big menagerie
For instance there's our Janitor
His name is Mr Klein
And when he Hollers at us kids
He reminds me of a Lion
The Grocer is so big and fat
He has a big moustache
He looks just like a Walrus
Just before he takes a splash
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Andria on 11/12/08 at 11:07 pm
http://kmwithlori.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/wallacegromit.jpg
DUDE... Not that Wallace, I am talking about my 73-year-old neighbor, who is a veteran of the Korean and Vietnam Wars. ;)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 11:09 pm
I had help from my neighbor Wallace and his son, who was visiting him. I forgot to mention that some of the tanks went into Wallace's pickup and into his son's minivan. I felt like I had to explain, so I did :)
Oh that explains it.... I just did not want you to hurt anything I know you have hurt yourself with falling off of your parents porch or your boyfriends truck cab! I know it can take 4 of us to clean out the Python's environment at the high school.... I just could not see how you could have got it all done ??? ??? ???
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 11:10 pm
Once Mother said "My litle pet"
you ought to learn your alphabet
So in my soup I used to get
All the letters of the alphabet
I learned them all from A to Z
And now my Mothers giving me
Animal crackers in my soup
Monkeys and rabbits loop the loop
Gosh oh gee but I have fun
Swallowing animals one by one
In every bowl of soup I see
Lions and Tigers watching me
I make 'em jump right through a hoop
Those animal crackers in my soup
When I get hold of the big bad wolf
I just push him under to drown
Then I bite him in a million bits
And I gobble him right down
When their inside me where its dark
I walk around like Noahs Arc
I stuff my tummy like a goop
With animal crackers in my soup
Animal crackers in my soup
Do funny things to me
They make me think my neighbourhood
Is a big menagerie
For instance there's our Janitor
His name is Mr Klein
And when he Hollers at us kids
He reminds me of a Lion
The Grocer is so big and fat
He has a big moustache
He looks just like a Walrus
Just before he takes a splash
Thank's for getting that song (with Shirley Temple singing it) in my head before bed
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 11:10 pm
So 2kidsami posted the link to the article and her concerns for your pets at 9:14 (7:14 on the west coast). At 9:20 (7:20 on the west coast), you come back and say that they have all been moved. Quite a feat in six minutes.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 11:11 pm
Oh that explains it.... I just did not want you to hurt anything I know you have hurt yourself with falling off of your parents porch or your boyfriends truck cab! I know it can take 4 of us to clean out the Python's environment at the high school.... I just could not see how you could have got it all done ??? ??? ???
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/2/22/DoctorOctopus(Octavius)_Head.jpg/440px-DoctorOctopus(Octavius)_Head.jpg
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Dagwood on 11/12/08 at 11:13 pm
I really should be working and I have left a couple of times to do just that, but I don't wanna work anymore. **stomps feet and holds breath**
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 11:14 pm
I really should be working and I have left a couple of times to do just that, but I don't wanna work anymore. **stomps feet and holds breath**
Me neither :P But I will finish my stuff eventually.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 11:15 pm
I really should be working and I have left a couple of times to do just that, but I don't wanna work anymore. **stomps feet and holds breath**
KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FROGS?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Dagwood on 11/12/08 at 11:16 pm
KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FROGS?
FROGS ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (good enough for ya? ;D)
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 11:16 pm
Oooh, 2kidsami is in Iowa! :o That's, like, the next state over!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 11:19 pm
Oooh, 2kidsami is in Iowa! :o That's, like, the next state over!
Illinois is my home state!
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 11:20 pm
Des Moines has a Sonic or two :D That was the only place I actually stopped at in Iowa :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/12/08 at 11:21 pm
Thank's for getting that song (with Shirley Temple singing it) in my head before bed
My pleasure! ;D
Oooh, 2kidsami is in Iowa! :o That's, like, the next state over!
Is Iowa even a state??!!??!! ;D
Des Moines has a Sonic or two :D That was the only place I actually stopped at in Iowa :D
Aw dang man, now you got me craving Sonic when the closest one is in Pennsylvania!!!! >:(
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Step-chan on 11/12/08 at 11:24 pm
http://www.sabrina-online.com/strips/SabOnline451.GIF
^ This is relevent to my interests.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 11:25 pm
For Tam, Pennsylvania is the next state over :D
Apparently there is a Sonic near us in Aurora, home of Wayne Campbell.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 11:25 pm
My pleasure! ;D
Is Iowa even a state??!!??!! ;D
>:(
Well the song sucks, and all I know is a verse and then I have to hum :o :o :o
AND YES IOWA IS A STATE- where do you think your food and cornsyrup, cornflakes, tofu, meat and etc.... Comes from???
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 11:26 pm
Well the song sucks, and all I know is a verse and then I have to hum :o :o :o
AND YES IOWA IS A STATE- where do you think your food and cornsyrup, cornflakes, tofu, meat and etc.... Comes from???
Nebraska?
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/12/08 at 11:26 pm
Nebraska?
I was thinking Stop and Shop
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 11:28 pm
Nebraska?
YOU'd starve
I was thinking Stop and Shop
LOL thanks I needed that ;D ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Jessica on 11/12/08 at 11:33 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KANI2dpXLw
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/12/08 at 11:34 pm
Well the song sucks, and all I know is a verse and then I have to hum :o :o :o
AND YES IOWA IS A STATE- where do you think your food and cornsyrup, cornflakes, tofu, meat and etc.... Comes from???
CHINA?
I shop at Walmart! ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 11:37 pm
CHINA?
I shop at Walmart! ;D ;D ;D
;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/12/08 at 11:38 pm
;D
Wait a second!!!!
I guess you can call Iowa a state.... even though all they did manage to put out was Mr. Demi Moore! :P
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/12/08 at 11:46 pm
And Bill Bryson
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/12/08 at 11:51 pm
Wait a second!!!!
I guess you can call Iowa a state.... even though all they did manage to put out was Mr. Demi Moore! :P
Johnny Carson, John Wayne, Glenn Miller, Grant Wood, Tom Arnold, Bix Biederbeck,
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 11:53 pm
Don't forget James T. Kirk.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/12/08 at 11:59 pm
There should be a fan club for the LTE.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: 2kidsami on 11/13/08 at 12:00 am
Don't forget James T. Kirk.
Hey Riverside is close, no I have never been to Trekfest
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/13/08 at 12:02 am
You should go. Nerds shall inherit the Earth.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/13/08 at 12:02 am
Johnny Carson, John Wayne, Glenn Miller, Grant Wood, Tom Arnold, Bix Biederbeck,
WHO?? ?? ?? ?? ;D
I am kidding!!!!! :D :D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/13/08 at 12:04 am
I found a list of fifty famous Iowans
I'd heard of about 10 of them
so not that famous then...
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Rice_Cube on 11/13/08 at 12:05 am
Iowa is where people caucus.
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: Tam on 11/13/08 at 12:05 am
I found a list of fifty famous Iowans
I'd heard of about 10 of them
so not that famous then...
karma +1
and I don't care what you think about it! :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: Longest Thread Ever
Written By: karen on 11/13/08 at 12:07 am
karma +1
and I don't care what you think about it! :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
I see I have been mis-understood. :\'(
I don't mind karma per se. It just seems against the purpose of the smite thread that's all
So that's why no one's been giving me any karma