Steiners or Money Inc?


Steiners because Scott betrayed Rick by joining the NWO


Money Ince...I have no idea but I believe it's because Mike Rotundo(IRS) signed with WCW as V.K. Wallstreet shortly after Money Inc's 2nd Title loss to the Steiners.



And as for Ted Dibiase,he managed Steve Austin Ringmaster.

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/04/austindibiase.jpg


Howard

I long for those late 80's through mid 90's days....Long live the rockers!


Anyone remember The new Rockers? ::)

Howard

Anyone remember The new Rockers? ::)


I certainly do, Howard. Marty's last chance with the WWF as he teamed with a heavily miscast Leif Cassidy (better known as Al Snow). Oddly enough, I believe they were heels at some point in the short tenure as a tag team.

I certainly do, Howard. Marty's last chance with the WWF as he teamed with a heavily miscast Leif Cassidy (better known as Al Snow). Oddly enough, I believe they were heels at some point in the short tenure as a tag team.


well sort of like dorky heels.nobody paid attention to them so he became Al Snow with Head as for Marty Jannety he went his own separate way.


Howard

yeah too bad him and Vince got into it or Jannetty woulda been as good as Michaels..he was originally supposed to be anyway..but he had to mess up on a few occasions.

From what i have heard Jannetty got a bit too big for his boots.

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/m/martyjannetty/16.jpg


This was him a few years ago minus the long hair.^


Howard

yeah too bad him and Vince got into it or Jannetty woulda been as good as Michaels..he was originally supposed to be anyway..but he had to mess up on a few occasions.



That's what maybe got him kicked out. ::)

Howard

The story on Jannetty is simple, he didn't like the idea of being broken up but Michaels wanted to be. So he just left the WWE one day without notice...McMahon decided to give him a second shot and that's how Jannetty won the IC belt, but then Jannetty turned around and did it again and when he came back..McMahon wasn't so forgiving and stuck him in jobber matches with Savio Vega and Stone Cold before humiliating the Rocker Gimmick with Leif Cassidy.

I'm not saying it wasn't Jannettys fault cause it was partying, women, and not caring to much got the best of him, and by the time he figured that out, it was too late. Still have to say he's one of my all time favorites though, and if he would of taken his chance...he could have been as good as Michaels or better.

The story on Jannetty is simple, he didn't like the idea of being broken up but Michaels wanted to be. So he just left the WWE one day without notice...McMahon decided to give him a second shot and that's how Jannetty won the IC belt, but then Jannetty turned around and did it again and when he came back..McMahon wasn't so forgiving and stuck him in jobber matches with Savio Vega and Stone Cold before humiliating the Rocker Gimmick with Leif Cassidy.

I'm not saying it wasn't Jannettys fault cause it was partying, women, and not caring to much got the best of him, and by the time he figured that out, it was too late. Still have to say he's one of my all time favorites though, and if he would of taken his chance...he could have been as good as Michaels or better.


Eh, I can't say that Jannetty would have evoked the same emotion that Michaels did.  I mean, when they were together as the Rockers he was definately my favorite, but Shawn makes my blood boil just by breathing.

I bought the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies before WW XX and I swear he's done about a pound of coke.  He keeps sniffing, his eyes are glossy, and damn man, his lips are so dry they are white.

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/r/rockers/18.jpg

I kinda knew something was wrong with the Rockers.Shawn Michaels was acting strange and thought he was better than Jannetty. ::)


Howard

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/r/rockers/18.jpg


LMAO I love that pic.. that's definatley gonna get photoshopped

I don't think anyone would have trouble finding embarrassing pictures of Shawn Michaels if they looked hard enough.  I mean, damn, all you would have to do would be look at a gay man's collection of Playgirl and you would find it  ::).

Anyways, just a little notice to all you Canadians on the board, if there are any, Bret Hart is going to be on OTR on TSN December 13th.  Rumor has it he's almost ready to release his book.

While I am sure it's going to contain a lot of 'hero' and 'role model' stuff in it, I am very interested in which wrestlers he appreciates/rips to shreds.  As far as I'm concerned he is one of the few out there that actually has credibility.  And he has definitely overcame much of the bitterness after Survivor Series and his stroke.

I bet he goes easier on McMahon then Michaels and Flair.

hehehe, I hope it's out near Christmas.  :)

I don't think anyone would have trouble finding embarrassing pictures of Shawn Michaels if they looked hard enough.  I mean, darn, all you would have to do would be look at a gay man's collection of Playgirl and you would find it  ::).

Anyways, just a little notice to all you Canadians on the board, if there are any, Bret Hart is going to be on OTR on TSN December 13th.  Rumor has it he's almost ready to release his book.

While I am sure it's going to contain a lot of 'hero' and 'role model' stuff in it, I am very interested in which wrestlers he appreciates/rips to shreds.  As far as I'm concerned he is one of the few out there that actually has credibility.  And he has definitely overcame much of the bitterness after Survivor Series and his stroke.

I bet he goes easier on McMahon then Michaels and Flair.

hehehe, I hope it's out near Christmas.  :)



http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/06/hartgoldberg.jpg

maybe this is one picture that should be brought up in the book.^ ::)


Howard

McMahon wasn't so forgiving and stuck him in jobber matches with Savio Vega and Stone Cold before humiliating the Rocker Gimmick with Leif Cassidy.


I've heard Vince does this with some wrestlers as punishment (I heard that Dusty Rhodes was an example - polka dots and acting camp!?!). If Vince wants these wrestlers, he should not be shooting himself in the foot like that because teaming him up with Leif Cassidy is not drawing the crowds - remember wrestlers may do wrong but the fans, like customers, are always right.

When you have as much cash as Vince you can do pretty much what you want, however that dosen't mean to say he is right.

I've heard Vince does this with some wrestlers as punishment (I heard that Dusty Rhodes was an example - polka dots and acting camp!?!). If Vince wants these wrestlers, he should not be shooting himself in the foot like that because teaming him up with Leif Cassidy is not drawing the crowds - remember wrestlers may do wrong but the fans, like customers, are always right.


I've heard horror story right after horror story...not to long Ago Terry Taylor was posing to Vince that maybe the promo's shouldn't have so much profanity and sexual references and Vince threatened to bring out the red hair dye.

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/06/hartgoldberg.jpg

maybe this is one picture that should be brought up in the book.^ ::)
Howard



Any story to it besides it being Goldberg and him ending Hitman's career?

Yeah all about how much of a jerk Goldberg is

Yeah all about how much of a jerk Goldberg is


Here's a link to a background story of Goldberg trying to show how much of a man he was backstage against Jerhico...

...sort of backfired.

http://www.brethart.com/columns/may9.asp

Tells you all you need to know anout Goldberg

What was the story about Chris Jericho calling him "Greenburg" in WCW?
and why did they wait 4 years later to finally cross paths with each other? ::)



Howard

Jericho didn't think it was right that Goldberg even when he was new, Green and inexperienced, was beating people who deserved a push.

Jericho didn't think it was right that Goldberg even when he was new, Green and inexperienced, was beating people who deserved a push.



But that never gave him the right to make fun of him and call him Greenburg ::)


Howard

well.. Jericho is a hell of a lot better and Goldberg is a jerk... i think maybe this one can pass lol

I've heard horror story right after horror story...not to long Ago Terry Taylor was posing to Vince that maybe the promo's shouldn't have so much profanity and sexual references and Vince threatened to bring out the red hair dye.


That's got to be a horror story. Lol. Terry's first outing was a complete disaster. I could never understand why he was in The Heenan Family to start with.

well.. Jericho is a hell of a lot better and Goldberg is a jerk... i think maybe this one can pass lol


Too right. Oh! I'll add my two-penny worth as well - Goldberg is a jerk.  ;D

Too right. Oh! I'll add my two-penny worth as well - Goldberg is a jerk.  ;D


maybe that's why he got fired from WWF. ;D



Howard

maybe that's why he got fired from WWF. ;D



Howard


I always liked "Goldturd! Goldturd!" any real pro wrestling fan, it'd be impossible to like Goldberg

He got fired from the WWF (i hate calling it WWE as well stupid name..)

Because, basically he wanted more money, he wanted to be the champion, he didn't wanna lose to anybody, he didn't wanna be teamed up with specific people, he just wanted to win everything and never lose. To be honest they have Triple H for that and he is a hell of a lot better than Goldberg, and i will give Hunter credit, he does occasionally lose.

He got fired from the WWF (i hate calling it WWE as well stupid name..)

Because, basically he wanted more money, he wanted to be the champion, he didn't wanna lose to anybody, he didn't wanna be teamed up with specific people, he just wanted to win everything and never lose. To be honest they have Triple H for that and he is a hell of a lot better than Goldberg, and i will give Hunter credit, he does occasionally lose.


I'm actually still pisssed at HHH for holding hte title for (8??10??12 Months) when he couldn't even wrestle.

That being said, at least when he's healthy, he's a helluva wrestler.

Yeah he is, it does annoy me that he flexes his politcal muscle to keep the title, but he does job for people, and i can see his reasoning. If he jobbed for everybody then it wouldn't be a major thing when somebody beat him, however, because he is so dominant when say Orton beats him, it pushes Orton or whoever, that little bit more than if a normal guy jobbed to them. Same can be said about The Undertaker.

Yeah when he is healthy he is one of the best, however he hasn't been properly healthy for some time now, he is just starting to get back to full fitness, but really he needs to take 2-3 months off and then come back better than ever.

Yeah he is, it does annoy me that he flexes his politcal muscle to keep the title, but he does job for people, and i can see his reasoning. If he jobbed for everybody then it wouldn't be a major thing when somebody beat him, however, because he is so dominant when say Orton beats him, it pushes Orton or whoever, that little bit more than if a normal guy jobbed to them. Same can be said about The Undertaker.

Yeah when he is healthy he is one of the best, however he hasn't been properly healthy for some time now, he is just starting to get back to full fitness, but really he needs to take 2-3 months off and then come back better than ever.


All I can say is that it hurts the WWE.  Is it me or has Vince lost his mind lately?  CCC winning the U.S. title in his first appearance, HHH keeping the championship while injured, Orton getting the belt with no real buildup.  I think the ratings show how much Vince is underminding his own company.

It's like all the belts are meaningless, unlike how they were 10 years ago.  Remember when the Intercontinental meant something?

It used to be that every title was important.. now the world heavyweight championship.. is just being left up in the air.. that tells you something

Yeah he is, it does annoy me that he flexes his politcal muscle to keep the title, but he does job for people, and i can see his reasoning. If he jobbed for everybody then it wouldn't be a major thing when somebody beat him, however, because he is so dominant when say Orton beats him, it pushes Orton or whoever, that little bit more than if a normal guy jobbed to them. Same can be said about The Undertaker.

Yeah when he is healthy he is one of the best, however he hasn't been properly healthy for some time now, he is just starting to get back to full fitness, but really he needs to take 2-3 months off and then come back better than ever.


Triple H is a title hog.That's what happens when you're part of the McMahon Family and you're screwing the boss's daughter. ::)
He thinks he wants to be like Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan. ::)



Howard

It used to be that every title was important.. now the world heavyweight championship.. is just being left up in the air.. that tells you something



I think he deserves to get stripped of the title. >:(



Howard

He thinks he wants to be like Ric Flair


That's exactly it, but as Mr Flair (who i am not a huge fan of to be honest) said.. To be the man, you gotta beat the man!

That's exactly it, but as Mr Flair (who i am not a huge fan of to be honest) said.. To be the man, you gotta beat the man!


and HHH has never beaten Ric Flair.Or has he? ???


Howard

Well he has.. but not properly.

That's why Evolution will eventually crumble.I know that Batista is starting to turn face and I don't know abour Ric Flair having to confront HHH.That would be excellent. ;D



Howard

If they booked Triple H clean over ric flair, and Flair retired then.. that would be right.. he would retire with dignity, and by beating Ric Flair clean, 1...2...3 in the middle of the ring Triple H could honestly say he was the man. Maybe at Wrestlemania Ric Flair vs Triple H

If they booked Triple H clean over ric flair, and Flair retired then.. that would be right.. he would retire with dignity, and by beating Ric Flair clean, 1...2...3 in the middle of the ring Triple H could honestly say he was the man. Maybe at Wrestlemania Ric Flair vs Triple H



or Batista vs.Ric Flair vs.HHH with Randy Orton as special guest referee. ;D


Howard

That would be a neat match. Im wondering what Wrestlemania will be like this year.. i guess it's too early to say. I think Stone Cold will definatley be there, so will The Rock, i think Mick Foley will as well.

Personally i think the main event should be Randy Orton vs Chris Jericho

That would be such an awesome match, eventually they will have to make Randy orton a heel again, people just don't like him as a face.

That would be a neat match. Im wondering what Wrestlemania will be like this year.. i guess it's too early to say. I think Stone Cold will definatley be there, so will The Rock, i think Mick Foley will as well.

Personally i think the main event should be Randy Orton vs Chris Jericho

That would be such an awesome match, eventually they will have to make Randy orton a heel again, people just don't like him as a face.



It's just weird that Wrestlemania 21 is just around the corner.and to think last year Stone Cold was the referee for Goldberg vs.Brock Lesnar. ::)


Howard

Yeah, that was a strange match, everybody knew that was both of those guys last matches, nobody cared about them and yet even Stone Cold was about to leave soon after.

That match really did suck though, Only Austin was good there

Yeah, that was a strange match, everybody knew that was both of those guys last matches, nobody cared about them and yet even Stone Cold was about to leave soon after.

That match really did suck though, Only Austin was good there


Whoever thought everybody's dream match would come true but yet sucked so much. ::)


Howard

Yeah.. and they hyped it up so much, and yet the match was just really bad, it didn't look like ther were even trying to make it look good.

and also Hulk Hogan vs.Vince McMahon sucked.Oh yeah,I heard that Hogan and her daughter will face Vince and her daughter at Wrestlemania 21.


Howard

Yeah i heard about that. I really doubt it though, and it would totally suck.. Brooke Hogan has never wrestled ever, and it's not like the Hulkster is much to watch anymore, in there match i really thought Vinny Mac was as good as the Hulkster.

Yeah i heard about that. I really doubt it though, and it would totally suck.. Brooke Hogan has never wrestled ever, and it's not like the Hulkster is much to watch anymore, in there match i really thought Vinny Mac was as good as the Hulkster.


Vince McMahon will never be as good as Hulk Hogan.Vince thinks he can wrestle. ::)



Howard

Hogan used to be able to wrestle.. now he can't simple as that

Hogan used to be able to wrestle.. now he can't simple as that


Vince can't wrestle either. ::)


Howard

True.. but he trys lol

What was interesting (if anything) about that Goldberg/Lesnar match at Wrestlemania 21 was how quick the whole thing ended. What Goldberg did to Lesnar was very much what Lesnar did to The Rock before he left for the movies.

Anyone looking forward to The Royal Rumble? What are your predictions for the winner?

The Rumble looks interesting... my prediction for the rumble will have to wait until after Armaggedon.. well ok i will explain.

Basically if Eddie Guerrero or The Undertaker wins, then i think it will be either one of them that lost or Booker T. (I wanna see RVD win but he won't)

However if it is a Raw winner, i would like to see Jericho win it.. and i can actually see him doing so.

He isn't involved in anything big at the moment, and Vince ain't that stupid, he knows Jericho is a big draw.

Hogan used to be able to wrestle.. now he can't simple as that


Since when?  As far as I can figure it, Hogan is just as good now as he ever was, but that's because he never could wrestle. He was just a magician with the crowd.

There have been matches where Hogan has been good, against Savage he was good, it was an entertaining well put together match and on several occasions against Andre he was good.. but that was about it.

In WCW he never had one good match in my opinion.

There have been matches where Hogan has been good, against Savage he was good, it was an entertaining well put together match and on several occasions against Andre he was good.. but that was about it.

In WCW he never had one good match in my opinion.


Who woulda thought the first person to pin Hulk Hogan in WCW would be Arn Anderson?

There have been matches where Hogan has been good, against Savage he was good, it was an entertaining well put together match and on several occasions against Andre he was good.. but that was about it.

In WCW he never had one good match in my opinion.


I absolutely disagree. While he didn't win any matches by legitimate pinfall when he was a heel that was just part of his character. And it really made you more annoyed with him. Speaking of Savage and the WCW though, I beleive it was after Hogan had turned on Savage with the NWO when I saw their best match.

It wasn't anything special until Savage, who was eyeing Hogan outside of the ring while on top of the turnbuckle, jumped at Hulk who was resting on the gate around the ring.  By some freak accident Savage, who missed Hogan a la elbow, went to anchor himself on the rail.  Instead, his elblow fell into a partition preventing him from stopping himself.  His knees bent, his chin when into the corner of the rail, and you could literally see his eyes open up about 3 times their normal size.  I could almost see the stars around his skull.

I am sure that it was one of the biggest hits he ever received but he pressed on in an absolute daze, shaking his head and grabbing his rearranged chin.  Hogan kept going but you could see that Randy took a few minutes just to figure out who he was.  After that the match took on a special meaning because of the sheer will of Savage.  He pulled it off with Hogan and I am sure to this day I was one of the very few who picked out the blow to Randy.

It turned out to be a great match.