Today, in a few towns over from where I live...2 different gas stations decided to have a little gas war and they kept lowering their prices all day long...it ended going down some 60 cents a gallon....there were people waiting in line for an hour...in order to fill up their tanks!!  The police told them they had to up the price before it got dark because they are both on a heavily populated highway...and they didn't want cars lining up and down the highway all night long. :D

Today, in a few towns over from where I live...2 different gas stations decided to have a little gas war and they kept lowering their prices all day long...it ended going down some 60 cents a gallon....there were people waiting in line for an hour...in order to fill up their tanks!!  The police told them they had to up the price before it got dark because they are both on a heavily populated highway...and they didn't want cars lining up and down the highway all night long. :D
That's wild and i appreciate these gas station owners doing that. I paid $3.29 gal for regular this evening

That's wild and i appreciate these gas station owners doing that. I paid $3.29 gal for regular this evening



that's insane! :o  And here I am complaining about our $2.97 a gallon...wow.

that's insane! :o  And here I am complaining about our $2.97 a gallon...wow.
$2.97 is too much anyway. I held off on gettin the car wash at the gas station, I figured gas cost so much, I better wash it by hand tomorrow.

Our local gas station that is about 3 dollars a gallon has cars flowing out of it into the street because it's 20 cents cheaper.

It was $2.71 yesterday, but I bet it's probably up again.

I saw $2.61 yesterday.

If this proposed tax cut comes through I could be paying just over $2.00 again, that'd be freakin nice.

I saw $2.61 yesterday.

If this proposed tax cut comes through I could be paying just over $2.00 again, that'd be freakin nice.

without a tax revenue base we can forget about switching over to alternative fuels. i personally don't think the economy will restructure around alternatives without public sector funding. it's going to be too long before it becomes profitable.

without a tax revenue base we can forget about switching over to alternative fuels. i personally don't think the economy will restructure around alternatives without public sector funding. it's going to be too long before it becomes profitable.


You are correct.

I have always said, I don't think we pay too much, but I'm not gonna balk at the costs going down for a while.

To be perfectly honest.. and this goes against everything I believe in.. the Tax cuts need to be abolished and you're right, more funding needs to go in to alternatives.

Somebody has apparently started another thread about Gas on here, also discussing prices... so I thought I'd put this one back on top. This one was here first, so we do NOT need a second thread to discuss the same thing.

Back on topic, we're still paying too darn much for gasoline. >:(

Back on topic, we're still paying too darn much for gasoline. >:(


So ... do you think we shold try and take action on this.  Such as a boycott of one particular company or not filling up on Fridays (nor cheat by filing up the day before)?

I'd gladly buy one if you can find me one that will fit 5 people, baseball equipment for 3, lawn chairs for 4, a cooler and jackets....oh, and it has to be able to withstand the "predictable" Illinois weather, drive on ice/snow, etc. ::)


Easy.

My old man had a big station wagon for years.

He could fit me and my buddy's when we were kids, with bikes and balls to play football.

It didn't get 30 miles to the gallon, granted, it got about 18-20.

I'd gladly buy one if you can find me one that will fit 5 people, baseball equipment for 3, lawn chairs for 4, a cooler and jackets....oh, and it has to be able to withstand the "predictable" Illinois weather, drive on ice/snow, etc. ::)


Have you considered a hybrid vehicle?  I don't know how the savings will pay off in the long run, but it might help  :-\\  At least in California you get a tax break for driving an alternative-fuel vehicle as well.  I think Ford and Jeep have a hybrid SUV on the market but I am not certain.

Volvos are very good cars and are actually quite good on gas mileage in my experience.  I don't think they can tow a boat though  :-\\

When you have a big family and towing needs and live in the Midwest where it snows and gets really cold, an SUV is justified.  It's the people who just drive them around as status symbols and to compensate for whatever that annoy me because they are driving up everyone's fuel costs through unnecessary demand  :-\\

When you have a big family and towing needs and live in the Midwest where it snows and gets really cold, an SUV is justified.  It's the people who just drive them around as status symbols and to compensate for whatever that annoy me because they are driving up everyone's fuel costs through unnecessary demand  :-\\


Fair point.

I have no problem with people driving big cars to be honest.

I looked at a lot of trucks before I bought the car I have now.
Mainly, because I enjoy off-roading and we get nasty snow and ice.

I paid $40 last Friday for a full tank. I've got no tiger in my tank, just some expensive liquid.  ::)

Ok, so..

when I can't fill a lawnmower for less than $5 something is wrong  ;D

Ok, so..

when I can't fill a lawnmower for less than $5 something is wrong  ;D


We got an electric lawnmower for just this reason when I lived with my parents.  More clean and energy-efficient.  Of course you can always use the old-school unpowered mowers but those don't cut very well through thick grass.

Jim Cramer (that screaming a-hole on CNBC) vehemently defends the oil companies Oh, the poor oil companies. Life has been so hard for them with their profit margins so low for the past 20 years. It is good, moral, and right that Exxon-Mobil get the chance to at least make some money today. God knows they've slaved away for it! Just look at that poor Lee Raymond....
Anyway, there's been a memo from Chevron (Condi's company, I might add) leaked from 1995 entreating the oil companies to limit production and limit supply. If premium stayed at $1.32 a gallon, the cupboards would be bare at the executive mansions. In California over tha last decade 18 out of 32 refineries have been shut down. Shut down by whom? Environmental whackos? Wrong, guess again. The federal government? Nope, give it another try. Could it possibly be...the refining companies themselves? Ding ding ding ding! You are correct, sir! Give that man a set of steak knives!
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I saw $2.67 per gallon tonight.

ours is down to a whopping $2.85/gallon. ::)

Ours hasn't gone up any further in the past week or so... the highest I've seen for self-serve is a whopping $3.67/gallon (for the record, the low-grade gas was $3.47 at that station).

About half the service stations in my area are just above $3.00/gallon. About half are just below. By next week I expect them to all be above $3.00. It's been raining a lot in Massachusetts this week. I'm surprised the prices haven't gone up to $4.00/gallon. Why? 'Cuz it's raining. Gas is more expensive when it's raining, you know!
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About half the service stations in my area are just above $3.00/gallon. About half are just below. By next week I expect them to all be above $3.00. It's been raining a lot in Massachusetts this week. I'm surprised the prices haven't gone up to $4.00/gallon. Why? 'Cuz it's raining. Gas is more expensive when it's raining, you know!
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That is, if it's raining in your neck of the woods!

I paid 98.9 a litre the other day.  I could have paid 96.9 for a lower octane petrol but I wasn't sure how much difference it made to the car?

I paid 98.9 a litre the other day.  I could have paid 96.9 for a lower octane petrol but I wasn't sure how much difference it made to the car?


Most cars can take the cheap stuff.  Having gone through an auto mechanics class and going out with mechanics, I learned that using the expensive stuff is usually a suckers game.  It is best to check the owners manual for the octane rating, or, fill up with the cheap stuff, if your enging starts to chug when you shut it off, it means you need the more expensive brew.

Most cars can take the cheap stuff.  Having gone through an auto mechanics class and going out with mechanics, I learned that using the expensive stuff is usually a suckers game.  It is best to check the owners manual for the octane rating, or, fill up with the cheap stuff, if your enging starts to chug when you shut it off, it means you need the more expensive brew.
You're absolutely right.  According to almost every mechanic I've known, the only cars that really "need" the higher octane are the high-performance cars and some of the foreign cars (Audi's in particular).  Even those won't be damaged by using lower octane gas, but they might have a decrease in performance.  Strangely enough, I've put higher octane gas in my Expedition (at my MIL's house, 89 is usually cheaper than 87) and the engine makes MORE noise than if I put in the cheap stuff ???

Most cars can take the cheap stuff.  Having gone through an auto mechanics class and going out with mechanics, I learned that using the expensive stuff is usually a suckers game.  It is best to check the owners manual for the octane rating, or, fill up with the cheap stuff, if your enging starts to chug when you shut it off, it means you need the more expensive brew.


Or a tune up.

Or a tune up.
did i mention my feelings about car exhaust?

did i mention my feelings about car exhaust?

My objection to the HBO documentary "Too Hot Not To Handle" was the ending in which the hybrid car is presented as the wave of the future. Sorry, the wave of the future is the end of the personal passenger car and a more meager existence than we have seen in over seventy years! Even HBO didn't dare dis the car companies.
We've always had a vision of the future as being:
a. Convenient.
b. Lieisurely.
c. Full of flying cars free of pollution.
Sorry, it'll be none of those.

Most cars can take the cheap stuff.  Having gone through an auto mechanics class and going out with mechanics, I learned that using the expensive stuff is usually a suckers game.  It is best to check the owners manual for the octane rating, or, fill up with the cheap stuff, if your enging starts to chug when you shut it off, it means you need the more expensive brew.


It all depends on the engine.

Unless you have a "high compression engine", there is no difference between the different grades of gasoline.  And just as you said, 90% of the cars it does not make any difference.

I have 2 vehicles, and they both have high compression engines.  One is my 1997 Dodge Intrepid.  It has the 3.0 liter engine, and midgrade is recommended.  And yes, I do see a performance difference between the two.  I run the cheap stuff most of the time though, saving the midgrade for long trips.  Since I only drive it 1-2 times a week (no more then 5 miles round trip), is a waste for me to use anything higher.  I only fill it up once a month, and the engine never gets warmed up before I am done.

My bike is a different matter however.  With the cheap stuff, acceleration is off, and it is harder to start.  When I put in mid-grade, performance increases greatly.  In addition, I get another 10-15 miles per tank.  Putting in Premium is even better.  With Premium, I actually get 20-40 miles further on a tank over the cheap stuff.  This almost pays for the difference in cost.

However, my '75 van sees no difference, and neither did my Goldwing.  Since neither of these has high compression engines, putting in anything but regular is a waste of money.

This is where reading your user manual helps.  Also learn how to compute your own gas mileage and track it.  That is the best way to see which works best for your vehicle.

Paid $3.39 a gallon for regular today (actually, yesterday).

I still have managed to stay below the $3.00 mark, although that could end within the next week.  The most I have paid out is $2.95.  I have a Ford Escort, so I am one of the lucky ones, but even then, I have cut down on
my driving.  The kid next door to me got his license and his parents bought him a car, and listen to this, they wanted to get him a smaller SUV and he said no way, he picked out a Neon, opting for a small economy car.  Good on him.

neons are cute, i like em. they're supposed to be kinda unreliable though.

neons are cute, i like em. they're supposed to be kinda unreliable though.


Wouldn't have been my first choice, but his father owns a shop so they won't have to worry too much.

I still have managed to stay below the $3.00 mark, although that could end within the next week.  The most I have paid out is $2.95.  I have a Ford Escort, so I am one of the lucky ones, but even then, I have cut down on
my driving.  The kid next door to me got his license and his parents bought him a car, and listen to this, they wanted to get him a smaller SUV and he said no way, he picked out a Neon, opting for a small economy car.  Good on him.

That was wise on the kid's part. Glad he opposed the suv. Those things are gas guzzelers.

Almost $3.00 a gallon out here in California.  I am glad I only live a little over a mile from work.  :)

Almost $3.00 a gallon out here in California.  I am glad I only live a little over a mile from work.  :)

Are you kidding?? They've been $3 and over in California for the last couple months! :o I should know, I live out there too.

It's good that you live close to your work; you could practically walk there. Where in California do you live?

Edit:
Never mind...I just remembered from another thread that you were in the Central Valley. :) Maybe it's just now approaching $3 in that part of the state.

Are you kidding?? They've been $3 and over in California for the last couple months! :o I should know, I live out there too.

It's good that you live close to your work; you could practically walk there. Where in California do you live?

Edit:
Never mind...I just remembered from another thread that you were in the Central Valley. :) Maybe it's just now approaching $3 in that part of the state.


Depending on which gas station you go to. . . .  it can range anywhere from $2.95 to over $3.00.  My hubby usually fills up the cars so I do not pay much attention to the prices.  However, I took my little VW out the other day and paid $15.00 for 5 gallons of gas.  I remember I use to be able to fill it up for 10 bucks.  Oh - to go back to those days.

I've thought about walking to work, but from my house to work you either have to get on the freeway for one whole exit or drive down a frontage road that is surrounded by cow fields.  Not exactly the best way to commute.  :)

Depending on which gas station you go to. . . .  it can range anywhere from $2.95 to over $3.00.  My hubby usually fills up the cars so I do not pay much attention to the prices.  However, I took my little VW out the other day and paid $15.00 for 5 gallons of gas.  I remember I used to be able to fill it up for 10 bucks.  Oh - to go back to those days.

I've thought about walking to work, but from my house to work you either have to get on the freeway for one whole exit or drive down a frontage road that is surrounded by cow fields.  Not exactly the best way to commute.  :)

Nope. :-\\ I'm not the least bit familiar with that area...and the closest I've been to your area is probably Fresno, where my family and I went six years ago for a family reunion. Back then, I remember gasoline was right around $2.00 a gallon...and I thought that was too much! :D

In San Diego, prices have been around $3.50 as of late.

We need a new government, one that will help us break up the oil monopolies and at the same time help us wean ourselves off petroleum dependency. Right now Big Oil is fleecing you because they know that light sweet crude, the kind that flows like water, is running out. We're in the last gasp of easy extraction. That does not make it right for the fatcats to get fatter by making people struggling to get by struggle even more, but they will continue to do it as long as the get to make the money and the rules!
::)

Nope. :-\\ I'm not the least bit familiar with that area...and the closest I've been to your area is probably Fresno, where my family and I went six years ago for a family reunion. Back then, I remember gasoline was right around $2.00 a gallon...and I thought that was too much! :D


I am about 2 hours north of Fresno - but is basically the same landscape - flat land - full of  "California Happy" cows and crops, with housing developments slowly taking over.  What amazes me is the people who commute to the San Francisco Bay Area everyday.  It is about a 2 hour commute one way, in heavy traffic.  I can ONLY imagine what their gas bill is like. 

I am about 2 hours north of Fresno - but is basically the same landscape - flat land - full of  "California Happy" cows and crops, with housing developments slowly taking over.  What amazes me is the people who commute to the San Francisco Bay Area everyday.  It is about a 2 hour commute one way, in heavy traffic.  I can ONLY imagine what their gas bill is like. 

With prices the way they are now...I probably don't wanna know! :o

I just saw on the news the other night that gas prices are supposed to be going down, but in my town, they keep going up....$2.92 last night when the night before it was $2.89 ::)

Mod to add:  today it's $2.94 :o 

I'm soooo relieved it's $2.93 at Cumby's, instead of $2.99. OK, it may not be $1.42 like it was before the Bushies cheated their way into power, but at least I can buy myself a Mars Bar with the savings on a full tank--when the Mars Bars are on sale!!!
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I just saw on the news the other night that gas prices are supposed to be going down, but in my town, they keep going up....$2.92 last night when the night before it was $2.89 ::)

Mod to add:  today it's $2.94 :o 

Yours went up? Ours just went down a couple notches. :-\\ It's still above three bucks in California.

I saw $2.59 in Lexington.

$2.79 over the road here in St. Louis.

Yesterday, the gas around here was 99.9/L 

Today, it was 1.09/L :o

Yesterday, the gas around here was 99.9/L 

Today, it was 1.09/L :o

I wonder how much that would be in U.S. gallons. :o ??? Actually, I'd probably have to convert the liters to gallons to figure that one out.

I wonder how much that would be in U.S. gallons. :o ??? Actually, I'd probably have to convert the liters to gallons to figure that one out.

It's quite easy: there are 3.79 gallons in a liter, so to convert liters to gallons, all you do is multiply by 3.79...and with some conversion, you might be able to figure out how much that'd be for gallon.

we need to invade europe and make them all convert to the gallon system of measurement before gas gets too expensive for us to fill up all the armored tanks.

I have no idea on the price of petrol over here, I will ask a friend.

The cheapest gas around here is at Cumberland Farms convenience stores.  It's all the way down to $2.89/gallon!

You know what I hate about this?  The oil companies have no incentive to significantly drop prices.  They've realized that at $3.50 or $4.00/gallon, consumers will b*tch a lot, but they won't stop driving.

They have no choice!

It's not that I don't want to take the bus to work, it's that I can't!  Now, a lot of my fellow Americans will not take mass transit even when its available.  Don't do that!  People might think you are poor, and that's the most shameful thing to be in America!  I mean, most Americans are poor, but they'll make themselves even poorer trying to keep up appearances.  There really isn't a "millionaire next door," but you don't want to look like the one who isn't!  That's why there's little fear among car companies of Americans reverting back to "economy cars."  Buy that big SUV! Pay hundreds of dollars to the finance company for the next five years, spend a hundred bucks just filling the tank!  It's OK if you can't afford orthodunture for your kid.  Fewer people will see his crooked teeth than will see, ugh, a four-cylinder!  You want the neighbors to think you got class don't you?

I know a retired linguistics professor whose savings and investments total a couple of million net.  What does he drive?  A 1986 Toyota Camry.  Why? Why not?  He's the type of guy who is the purported "Millionaire Next Door."  However, that book was less about praising thrift than guilt-tripping the 99% of the public who are not millionaires.

Speaking of gas prices here's a funny song parody about driving a Hummer called "Ain't No Gas Price High Enough" you might enjoy: http://theointment.com/?m=20060821

I saw a station selling gas for $2.67.  Cars were lined up.

I saw a station selling gas for $2.67.  Cars were lined up.


Imagine that...and just a few years ago, they would have lined up to torch the place if a gas station was trying to charge $2.67/gallon!
::)

Imagine that...and just a few years ago, they would have lined up to torch the place if a gas station was trying to charge $2.67/gallon!
::)
torching a gas station might not be a mob's smoothest move... :o

torching a gas station might not be a mob's smoothest move... :o

Well, I look at what the "mob" did after the Red Sox won the series after 86 years...and that mob was celebrating, so.....
::)

I paid $2.77 for premium today in Dallas area at Sam's Club. Lowest it has been in a long time. I do not drive very much, and consolidate trips whenever possible.

I paid $2.77 for premium today in Dallas area at Sam's Club. Lowest it has been in a long time. I do not drive very much, and consolidate trips whenever possible.



That is lower then our regular is. Be glad you have such "low" prices.

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Dave.

I am trying to be glad, but have a hard time when I look at a three year gas price chart.

I went to my doctor today, 60 mile round trip, I guess that cost me about $8 in gas alone never mind wear and tear.

At least I think I can sell this vehicle fairly easily when the time comes. People seem to be more than willing to throw their money away on wasteful vehicles in this area. In our defense, we bought that car when gas was much less and we didn't even realize it requires premium until after we bought it.  >:(

Just paid $2.53 for reg here in Lexington, KY.  Guess the oil cos. feel they've taken enough profits for now.

I am trying to be glad, but have a hard time when I look at a three year gas price chart.

I went to my doctor today, 60 mile round trip, I guess that cost me about $8 in gas alone never mind wear and tear.

At least I think I can sell this vehicle fairly easily when the time comes. People seem to be more than willing to throw their money away on wasteful vehicles in this area. In our defense, we bought that car when gas was much less and we didn't even realize it requires premium until after we bought it.  >:(


Ok, I can save you $50 a year.

Don't see a Doctor that's 30 miles away.  ;D

Ok, I can save you $50 a year.
Don't see a Doctor that's 30 miles away.  ;D


True, very true...

You must be one of them city folks, though. It is 7 miles for me just to get to the main highway. To go to Sam's or Costco, it is about 40 miles round trip.

Honestly, we have tons of doctors here in town and that's where most of ours are. We do have a few near where we used to live who have taken such good care of us that we hate to give them up. Those are the ones we don't see all the time.

I actually make a written plan out when I plan to go more than a few miles, as in what places I am going, for what, and in what order, I try to lump errands together.

True, very true...

You must be one of them city folks, though. It is 7 miles for me just to get to the main highway. To go to Sam's or Costco, it is about 40 miles round trip.

Honestly, we have tons of doctors here in town and that's where most of ours are. We do have a few near where we used to live who have taken such good care of us that we hate to give them up. Those are the ones we don't see all the time.

I actually make a written plan out when I plan to go more than a few miles, as in what places I am going, for what, and in what order, I try to lump errands together.


Dang!

That's not a bad idea, lumping things together, saves way more time and gas than you could imagine.

Still above three bucks in California! ::) :-[

Dang!

That's not a bad idea, lumping things together, saves way more time and gas than you could imagine.


Saves aggravation too, I hate having to invest an extra half hour because I forgot to buy butter or some other piddly item. We are getting a Walmart nearby soon. That is not a good thing, IMO, but not entirely a bad thing either!

Over the past week or so, it finally got below three bucks here in California! :) :D

Currently in our area it is down to around $2.45/gallon.

Gas at the QuikTrip 5 minutes from my house is $2.19/gallon.

It cost me today around $29 for 12 gallons. I got the cheapest gas which was $2.69 a gallon and this was in Concord, California.

For some reason the price of petrol is coming down in the UK.

In Central Texas the cost of gas has gone down to $2.25 a gallon!

They lowered it again today..it's down to around $2.37 now.

Gas here was 87.1 / Litre the other day

Over the past week or so, it finally got below three bucks here in California! :) :D


Yeah I know, even though it doesn't affect me much it's a psychological relief.

I paid $2.71 today, I could have found lower but was limited on time because I was at lunch from work. I'm amazed at how thrilled we are at the lower prices, but really, the prices are still high, but now that we've been gouged so painfully $3 plus at the pump, $2.71 doesn't seem so bad. The brainwashing has worked  ;D

I paid $2.71 today, I could have found lower but was limited on time because I was at lunch from work. I'm amazed at how thrilled we are at the lower prices, but really, the prices are still high, but now that we've been gouged so painfully $3 plus at the pump, $2.71 doesn't seem so bad. The brainwashing has worked  ;D



I expect gas prices down here to be about $2/gallon in a month or so.

I paid $2.28 today for 93 octane premium north of Dallas, TX. It was $2.18 for regular.

Don't look at it like it is a big gift though... that's their goal. Keep being outraged at the high prices.

Dang! I got ripped off at the pump.  and I had to fill up my 2 gallon can to have gas for my lawnmower also. You people have much lower prices than California bay area. I think i saw it in the $2.50 range at the lowest

I'm from California and missed out on making my $$$ in real estate so let me wallow in my measly gas price savings...

Plus don't forget we have dirt cheap houses but pay 3X the property tax percentage... In spite of that a HUGE foreclosure rate...

And then those damned Jones and their leased Hummer to keep up with...

Last I read, we have the suckiest murder rate in the country...

Hey, that's just me making fun of Dallas/North Texas. I don't understand how we always manage to look like such idiots compared to the rest of the U.S.

I'm from California and missed out on making my $$$ in real estate so let me wallow in my measly gas price savings...

Plus don't forget we have dirt cheap houses but pay 3X the property tax percentage... In spite of that a HUGE foreclosure rate...

And then those damned Jones and their leased Hummer to keep up with...

Last I read, we have the suckiest murder rate in the country...

Hey, that's just me making fun of Dallas/North Texas. I don't understand how we always manage to look like such idiots compared to the rest of the U.S.
Please enjoy your savings, by all means. Had you foreseen & had the means to aquire houses here and sell them in the last 3 years, you would have scored heavily. But the housing boom here has subsided and they aren't selling fast, prices are having to be reduced which is usually the kiss of death per my realtor.  stay out of the way of the bullets as you're filling up.

Yeah, I moved out of there for good 13 years ago. I actually had the means to acquire but didn't, due to being young and dumb and living through two recessions, yet will still acquire through aged wise parents.

I am constantly amazed by the influx of Californians who come here and then lose their houses to foreclosure... how can they be so dumb?

Yeah, I moved out of there for good 13 years ago. I actually had the means to acquire but didn't, due to being young and dumb and living through two recessions, yet will still acquire through aged wise parents.

I am constantly amazed by the influx of Californians who come here and then lose their houses to foreclosure... how can they be so dumb?
what part of The Golden State did you reside in?  I lived in San Antonio in 1958-1960 and then moved out West and have been here since and don't plan on moving. We're in a good area and our neck of the woods seems to be a fairly safe haven away from the crime in the bay area. Aged wise parents are good. just don't get too eager to aquire  ;D

I lived in the Long Beach area of Los Angeles. At the time I left, it was hard to sell anything, especially the "own your own" conversions in Long Beach. You could buy 650 sq. ft. for well under 100k at that time, maybe $60k if you were lucky... with a beach view (if you crane your neck).

Here, in far, far, far North Dallas, we don't have the same crime problems as the big city. But we have the low housing costs. What we have are Californians who have cashed out and come here thinking they can live in a 6000 sq ft mansion and drive expensive cars... and buy expensive cars for the kids... and the money goes real fast. Especially when they get hit for the $600+ electricity bill in the summer. We actually know people who have had electric bills over $1200 in the summer.

I lived in the Long Beach area of Los Angeles. At the time I left, it was hard to sell anything, especially the "own your own" conversions in Long Beach. You could buy 650 sq. ft. for well under 100k at that time, maybe $60k if you were lucky... with a beach view (if you crane your neck).

Here, in far, far, far North Dallas, we don't have the same crime problems as the big city. But we have the low housing costs. What we have are Californians who have cashed out and come here thinking they can live in a 6000 sq ft mansion and drive expensive cars... and buy expensive cars for the kids... and the money goes real fast. Especially when they get hit for the $600+ electricity bill in the summer. We actually know people who have had electric bills over $1200 in the summer.
you nailed it exactly with the Californians selling here, and moving to Texas thinking to live the life of luxury but it's all relative and balances out. I may be going to Long Beach soon to scout out LB State for my kid nect year. she took a tour and liked it and wants to go there for college. Did you go there?

I didn't go to LB State... and if I did, it would be so different now I bet because I'm pretty old.

Regarding the "life of luxury" in Texas, it must be a horrid shock to come here and watch the money get eaten up if you only look at the listing price of housing. When you add the taxes, other costs, plus pest control due to large bugs, scorpions, transportation to a county that actually sells booze, etc., it isn't so cheap.

I didn't go to LB State... and if I did, it would be so different now I bet because I'm pretty old.

Regarding the "life of luxury" in Texas, it must be a horrid shock to come here and watch the money get eaten up if you only look at the listing price of housing. When you add the taxes, other costs, plus pest control due to large bugs, scorpions, transportation to a county that actually sells booze, etc., it isn't so cheap.
scorpions??  I'm sure a lot of people do only that, and imagine they have a nest egg from their California home sale that will get them thru. You guys do have some good mesquite BBQ joints I'm sure and you can probably wear a holster & 6 shooter in public  ;D  J/K

I never managed to get all the gun laws straight. There are some stupid laws, like if it is dark, you can shoot at people if they are threatening your property.

There are some good barbeque joints around, but we'll still drive 40 miles up to the Carl's Jr. for one of those burgers Paris Hilton used to advertise.

If you can ever get an In N Out Burger here, you will have people from a five state radius clogging the drive through.

Here, in far, far, far North Dallas, we don't have the same crime problems as the big city. But we have the low housing costs. What we have are Californians who have cashed out and come here thinking they can live in a 6000 sq ft mansion and drive expensive cars... and buy expensive cars for the kids... and the money goes real fast. Especially when they get hit for the $600+ electricity bill in the summer. We actually know people who have had electric bills over $1200 in the summer.


The mean streets of Carolton are round North Dallas though, watch out for Vanilla Ice wannabe's.  ;) ;D

The gas stations nearest my house all have prices under $3 now!! :D So maybe our gas bill for the next cycle won't be quite so much.

$2.09 here.

The mean streets of Carolton are round North Dallas though, watch out for Vanilla Ice wannabe's.  ;) ;D

Vanilla Ice wannabeez?  Thought at least they'd be Eminem wannabeez by now!

Gas over here in western Mass. is averaging about $2.60/gal., but at least it's not $3.60...it's coming though, Memorial Day weekend '07.  I'd put money on it...money like $3.60 for a gallon o' gas!
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Vanilla Ice wannabeez?  Thought at least they'd be Eminem wannabeez by now!

Gas over here in western Mass. is averaging about $2.60/gal., but at least it's not $3.60...it's coming though, Memorial Day weekend '07.  I'd put money on it...money like $3.60 for a gallon o' gas!
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$2.60?  Man, you're gettig a ream job up there in Mass.  :o

I was in Findlay Ohio today and gas was $1.999  ;)

$2.60?  Man, you're gettig a ream job up there in Mass.  :o

I was in Findlay Ohio today and gas was $1.999   ;)



wow! under $2.00.......it's been going down here...today we got gas for $2.30

Down to $2.05.

Has anyone every brought gas/petrol online?

Man, you're gettig a ream job up there in Mass.  :o


Well, it wouldn't be the first time!
::)


Has anyone every brought gas/petrol online?

How does that work?
???

Think they're gonna stay $1.99 after election day?  Wouldn't count on it!

Has anyone every brought gas/petrol online?




How does that work?
???


I think I have discovered one thing you cannot buy online.

Down to 2.17 at a station around the corner from me, but go a couple of blocks and it jumps to 2.34.  The generic independents have the lowest prices.

The lowest I have seen it around here is $2.27.

It's down to $1.96 at the gas station down the street.

It's down to $1.96 at the gas station down the street.

That's the first under-two-dollars price for gas I've seen in...ages! I can't remember when it was last that cheap.

That's the first under-two-dollars price for gas I've seen in...ages! I can't remember when it was last that cheap.
Kinda sad when we're saying gas is "cheap" just because it's under two dollars. I think that we're being conditioned by the oil companies to think that.

I still remember the good old days when I could fill my tank up, give the cashier a $20 bill, and still get some change back.

I dunno about hardboiled eggs and whatnot  ;D but I saw gas for $2.10 at a Sam's Club in the DFW area over the weekend. I wish we could see under $2 again, and I think "shame on us" for being thrilled at paying as much as we are paying now. Come on, peeps, let's not fall into the trap!

/soapbox

I haven't seen it under two and a half dollars a gallon since maybe last year.

I haven't seen it under two and a half dollars a gallon since maybe last year.

Neither have I.


I wish we could see under $2 again

Heck, just plain two dollars would be okay by me...at least for now!

$2.75 for regular (as of last night). It may have gone down another two cents today.

Kinda sad when we're saying gas is "cheap" just because it's under two dollars. I think that we're being conditioned by the oil companies to think that.

I still remember the good old days when I could fill my tank up, give the cashier a $20 bill, and still get some change back.

Back inthe mid '90s I had that Geo 4-cylinder. I could coast to the pump running on vapors and fill 'er up and top it off for about $12.00.  Ah, good old 1995!  Of course, that car was like driving a lawn mower down the Interstate, but that's a different kettle 'o fish!
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I paid $2.26 for premium today... I didn't really need it, but I was there in town, at Costco. Regular was $2.06. There was a lady filling up who said the price had been cheaper a few days earlier.

I filled up our Honda Civic out in the boonies (where we live) for $2.14 because the gas light came on.

Regular unleaded is down to $2.05 over here.  My sister's hoping it gets down to $2.00 by the time she needs to fill up.

I paid 85 pence per litre today. That's the cheapest I have seen it in the UK for several years.
That's $1.59 per litre or $7.24 for a gallon.

Quit complaining about $2.00 a gallon!

I paid 85 pence per litre today. That's the cheapest I have seen it in the UK for several years.
That's $1.59 per litre or $7.24 for a gallon.

Quit complaining about $2.00 a gallon!


American's really are spoiled about the cost of things.  They get something for less then half the cost of the same item in most areas of the world, and still they complain.  I invite some of them to go buy petrol in Japan.  Where even in 1988 a Big Mac would set you back almost $5, and gasoline was almost 200% higher then it is in the US.

Of course, for most of them it is their own fault.  They are so brain-washed into the "bigger is better mindset", that they buy either 8+ cylynder luxury cars, or beast sized SUVs which get 15 MPG.

I just laugh at their whines though.  As even when gas was at it's highest, I still spent only $5-10 per week for Premium.  After all, nothing stopped them from getting a motorcycle like I did.

American's really are spoiled about the cost of things.  They get something for less then half the cost of the same item in most areas of the world, and still they complain.  I invite some of them to go buy petrol in Japan.  Where even in 1988 a Big Mac would set you back almost $5, and gasoline was almost 200% higher then it is in the US.

Of course, for most of them it is their own fault.  They are so brain-washed into the "bigger is better mindset", that they buy either 8+ cylynder luxury cars, or beast sized SUVs which get 15 MPG.

I just laugh at their whines though.  As even when gas was at it's highest, I still spent only $5-10 per week for Premium.  After all, nothing stopped them from getting a motorcycle like I did.

Right.

I love how cheap things are in the states, and when I pay those prices, I feel I'm getting a real bargain.  ;D

I paid $26 for a full tank. Now that's nice  8)

It's been down around 2.17/gallon here.

Still above $2.50 a gallon here! :P

It's $1.97 over here.

I paid $26 for a full tank. Now that's nice   8)


I had to flip over to my reserve yesterday, so I knew that it was time for me to fill up again.

I pulled in, and gave the cashere a $10, and filled up my tank with Premium.  And I even got .75 in change back!  And that $9.25 will be all I need to spend for the next 2-3 weeks.  But then again, lately my driving has only ammounted to maybe 50 miles a week.

And even last summer when I had a 60 mile commute, the price of gas did not eat me up.  Driving an economy vehicle makes even more sense to me now then it did when I was a teenager and gas was under $1 a gallon.

I had to flip over to my reserve yesterday, so I knew that it was time for me to fill up again.

I pulled in, and gave the cashere a $10, and filled up my tank with Premium.  And I even got .75 in change back!  And that $9.25 will be all I need to spend for the next 2-3 weeks.  But then again, lately my driving has only ammounted to maybe 50 miles a week.

And even last summer when I had a 60 mile commute, the price of gas did not eat me up.  Driving an economy vehicle makes even more sense to me now then it did when I was a teenager and gas was under $1 a gallon.


Well, you put me to shame, even though I drive a car that is known to be economical - Honda Civic - on gas. But, wow, how many gallons did you pay for? That's awfully cheap!

Well, you put me to shame, even though I drive a car that is known to be economical - Honda Civic - on gas. But, wow, how many gallons did you pay for? That's awfully cheap!


It was somewhere between 4-5 gallons.  My bike has a 5 gallon tank, so could not have been more then that.  I think it cost somewhere around $2.45, I never pay attention to the price to be honest.

I have always prefered motorcycles, for many reasons.  For one, they use far less natural resources to build.  You can build 5-8 motorcycles with the resources that go into 1 SUV.  They also use less oil and gasoline in operation.  And because of simpler engines, they use less (if not no) toxic chemicals like DOT hydrolic fluid, antifreeze, or freon.

And many states are now recognizing this fact.  In California, there are 2 ways to get to use a car pool lane.  1 is to have 2 (or more) people in your car.  The other is to drive what they consider a "high efficiency vehicle".  Under the California code, that covers electric cars, hybred cars, and motorcycles.  They are trying to pass legislation now to include biodiesel and other alternative fuels to that list.

I wish that more people would consider motorcycles for routine comutes.  I am not advocating a total conversion, since I also own a car.  But when the weather is nice and you have nothing (or nobody) that needs to be carried, motorcycles would go a long ways to reducing fuel use, polution, and congestion.  Even the smallest car engines are larger then the vast majority of motorcycles engines.  Only the latest models of Goldwings and Harley-Davidsons come anywhere close to that of a car.  And at 1.8L, even the massive Goldwing is a runt compared to what is used in most SUVs (the current Ford Explorer comes with either a 4L or 4.6L engine).

And that massive 1.8L Goldwing engine?  It is double the size of the engine in my 900cc motorcycle.  And I drive what is considered to be a "sportbike".

I think it's down to $1.90 down here.

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no way  :o  I paid 2.40 yesterday and was pleased with that, because my gasoline bill hits me hard with 3 drivers and 3 cars.


... they don't pay for their own?  ???

It was somewhere between 4-5 gallons.  My bike has a 5 gallon tank, so could not have been more then that.  I think it cost somewhere around $2.45, I never pay attention to the price to be honest.

I have always prefered motorcycles, for many reasons.  For one, they use far less natural resources to build.  You can build 5-8 motorcycles with the resources that go into 1 SUV.  They also use less oil and gasoline in operation.  And because of simpler engines, they use less (if not no) toxic chemicals like DOT hydrolic fluid, antifreeze, or freon.

And many states are now recognizing this fact.  In California, there are 2 ways to get to use a car pool lane.  1 is to have 2 (or more) people in your car.  The other is to drive what they consider a "high efficiency vehicle".  Under the California code, that covers electric cars, hybred cars, and motorcycles.  They are trying to pass legislation now to include biodiesel and other alternative fuels to that list.

I wish that more people would consider motorcycles for routine comutes.  I am not advocating a total conversion, since I also own a car.  But when the weather is nice and you have nothing (or nobody) that needs to be carried, motorcycles would go a long ways to reducing fuel use, polution, and congestion.  Even the smallest car engines are larger then the vast majority of motorcycles engines.  Only the latest models of Goldwings and Harley-Davidsons come anywhere close to that of a car.  And at 1.8L, even the massive Goldwing is a runt compared to what is used in most SUVs (the current Ford Explorer comes with either a 4L or 4.6L engine).

And that massive 1.8L Goldwing engine?  It is double the size of the engine in my 900cc motorcycle.  And I drive what is considered to be a "sportbike".


I owned a motorcycle before I owned a car.  That being said I would hate to see the majority of peopel on them.  It is not a vehicle for everyone, and I truly believe that if it isn't in your heart to get on one before the age of 25 then it isn't in your heart to master the beast. 

I owned a motorcycle before I owned a car.  That being said I would hate to see the majority of peopel on them.  It is not a vehicle for everyone, and I truly believe that if it isn't in your heart to get on one before the age of 25 then it isn't in your heart to master the beast. 


I agree with you there.  Considering how most people drive their cars, I would hate to see some of them on motorcycles.  However, if just 10-15% would use them more often, it could have a huge impact on traffic.

As a good example, look at Los Angeles.  Here is a city with probably the worst congestion in the nation.  It also has some of the best weather in the nation.  If on the nice cunny days only 10% switched from cars to bikes, you would see a noticeable reduction in traffic.  You can fit 2-3 motorcycles easily into the space taken up by those SUVs.

I am well aware that something like this would not work in the northern areas of the country.  Driving my bike in Alabama in winter is one thing.  I even did it when I lived in North Carolina (as long as there was no snow on the ground or expected).  I would hate to consider driving a bike in Connecticut in the winter.  I am not a Smurf, so would not look good in blue.  8)

Motorcycles are fuel efficient, but not everybody's cut out to ride one. 
What we need is a long-term plan for revitalized mass transit and more localized economies.  I used to live where I could walk a few blocks to buy a loaf of bread and a bottle of milk.  Now I have drive five miles to get either (how I ended up living here is a long story!).  I could walk it, but who's got time?  This road existed 100 years ago.  100 years ago the people living on this road milked their own cows and baked their own bread.  I don't have cows or a wheat field!
But if you talk in terms of public transportation and more self-subsistent municipal economies, people call you a commie.  That's because if you drive less, you don't hand over so much of your money to the petroleum and automobile industry.  Of course, it takes steel and fuel to create mass transit systems, but it's 100 times more efficient once it's set up and in use.
That's what all this talk about "individualism" from the Right seems to boil down to.  The "individualist" lives in an exurban tract mansion next to a golf course and drives his SUV to pick up the kids at soccer practice ten miles away!
::)

That's what all this talk about "individualism" from the Right seems to boil down to.  The "individualist" lives in an exurban tract mansion next to a golf course and drives his SUV to pick up the kids at soccer practice ten miles away!
::)



Then there are the ones who have to pick the kids up at school, 1 mile away, and the kids are in high school.  ???

Then there are the ones who have to pick the kids up at school, 1 mile away, and the kids are in high school.   ???

What?  When I was a kid if you lived one mile away from school, you hoofed it!  In fact one mile was the limit for schoolbus service.  I lived like 0.99 miles from the building, and I couldn't get the bus!  On cold and rainy days, I just walked up the block a bit and caught the bus from there.  The driver didn't care and the school didn't catch on, no harm done! 

These kids grow up with the parents kow-towing to their every desire, then they go out into the workforce and expect the world to kiss their butts...and the world does!  'specially if you're blonde with big boobs!
That's what I said to my brother-in-law who was going on about how he didn't want my niece to grow up spoiled.  He said, "I don't want her to be like those UMass girls with blonde hair and big t*ts who think the world revolves around them!"
I said, "But...the world DOES revolve around them, at least so far as I've observed!"
:P

It's $1.97 over here.


I think it's down to $1.90 down here.


I wish I could see prices like that where I live...but it don't look like that's gon' happen any time soon.

I saw 1.96 for reg unleaded yesterday. I didn't need any though.

On hauling children around: It is pathetic. Where we live, it is standard for 16 year olds to get a car, often new or near new. It doesn't matter if the kid is mature or not, as long as they pass the test. And no, the kids are not expected to walk anywhere. Parents gripe if the school will not bus from their house because it is too close. And then there are plenty of parents who cannot stand to be away from their kids that long so the line to pick up children from the school is often blocks long and starts to form more than a half hour before school lets out!

Recently, two moms got into a full on brawl outside of an elementary school.

Stupid people.

$1.94 this morning when I filled up my car.

The lowest around here currently is $2.13

It's finally starting to creep under $2.50 over here...

Motorcycles are fuel efficient, but not everybody's cut out to ride one. 
What we need is a long-term plan for revitalized mass transit and more localized economies.  I used to live where I could walk a few blocks to buy a loaf of bread and a bottle of milk.  Now I have drive five miles to get either (how I ended up living here is a long story!).  I could walk it, but who's got time?  This road existed 100 years ago.  100 years ago the people living on this road milked their own cows and baked their own bread.  I don't have cows or a wheat field!
But if you talk in terms of public transportation and more self-subsistent municipal economies, people call you a commie.  That's because if you drive less, you don't hand over so much of your money to the petroleum and automobile industry.  Of course, it takes steel and fuel to create mass transit systems, but it's 100 times more efficient once it's set up and in use.
That's what all this talk about "individualism" from the Right seems to boil down to.  The "individualist" lives in an exurban tract mansion next to a golf course and drives his SUV to pick up the kids at soccer practice ten miles away!
::)


You have to realize, I am a huge believer in Public Transit.  When I lived in LA, I took the Subway quite often.  When I needed to go to Long Beach (about 45 miles) I took the train.  But the LA subway system is almost a joke.  To many NIMBY people sabotaged it, so it does not go to half of the locations that it needed to get to.  About the only places it goes to is downtown, Hollywood, and Long Beach.  It does not run across the San Fernando Valley, nor does it run down Wilshire past the first few miles on the East side.  It does not even go to LAX, but stops a few miles away.  You still have to catch either a city bus or a taxi to get to the airport.  You can see from the tracks the spur line that was intended for the airport, but political pressure (mostly from Taxi drivers) prevented it from being finsihed.

In a city like LA, a lot of places are almost impossible to get to by decent public tranist.  When I lived in the Mojave Desert, my commute to work was 3 trains and a bus.  A 100 mile trip took me about 3 hours each way.  And when I worked on Wilshire, it was 2 trains (30 minutes) and a 45 minute bus ride (no trains went West of Highland Ave).  That same trip was just over 30 minutes by car.  And I still had to drive to and from the train stop.  The city bus did not start until after I had to catch the train, and the last bus stopped running before I got home.

New York is unusual, because it grew up around the subway system.  In most US cities however, they are spread wide and far apart.  In LA, a lot of people do not think twice about driving 100+ miles to get to work.  And where your major alternative is slow public transit (which goes on strike for 30-60 days every thrid year), it simply makes no sense.

Here in Alabama, it is very different.  With a population of only 135,000, there is simply not enough of a customer base to make busses affordable outside of the bigger cities.  There have been attempts in the past in my town, and they have all failed due to low ridership.

The mid-grade gas is finally under $2.50/gallon here. O0

Let's see how long it'll stay that way...

Anything above two and a half dollars a gallon is still too high in my book. ::)

I gassed up for 81.6/L tonight

The mid-grade gas is finally under $2.50/gallon here. O0

Let's see how long it'll stay that way...


I hear ya, today I saw unleaded go for $2.39 in my local area.

back up they go :-\\ ::)

back up they go :-\\ ::)

same here... ::) :(

There's this ONE store out towards the country that I pass on the way home that actually dropped when everyone else was going back up...
His Texaco station is down to 1.92 now and the Shell across the street is HATING' it because he keeps dropping to keep up with the other guy. LOL

They've made a big jump in the past couple weeks in California. Say...I seem to remember we were paying $3+ a year ago at this time. :o :o

Talking Gas isn't the same without RheemO :D

Gas has gone up like 20 cents here, over the past week.

Talking Gas isn't the same without RheemO :D


RheemO sounds like it should be the name of a brand of anal lube. :D

RheemO sounds like it should be the name of a brand of anal lube. :D



I think this guy was anal lube.

Gee...I just realized that I'm talking about anal in two threads now.... :-\\

Gee...I just realized that I'm talking about anal in two threads now.... :-\\



Is there something you want to share with us, Chrissy?  ;D

once i was at a party and everybody started doing some kinda truth or dare thing, this question would go around the room and people would raise their hands if they'd done it. so the question whether you'd ever participated in anal (pitching or catching) comes up and i'm thinking, dur, who HASN'T? goi?! so i raise my hand and look around in horror cuz NO ONE ELSE HAS RAISED THEIR HAND.

i mean wtf.

Diesel < Gas now!  :o

not sure what this has to do with gas prices though. why the hell don't you people care about gas prices? a great fabulous selfless person like rheemo comes along, wanting to rise up about gas prices, and no one cares! damn you all!

RheemO sounds like it should be the name of a brand of anal lube. :D


RheemO feels good on the hole :D

RheemO feels good on the hole :D


Now that we've got the slogan....maybe you need to come up with the RheemO package .....how would we market this item?

1/2 price bottles at all gay clubs

once i was at a party and everybody started doing some kinda truth or dare thing, this question would go around the room and people would raise their hands if they'd done it. so the question whether you'd ever participated in anal (pitching or catching) comes up and i'm thinking, dur, who HASN'T? goi?! so i raise my hand and look around in horror cuz NO ONE ELSE HAS RAISED THEIR HAND.

i mean wtf.


LOL  That would be embarrassing. ;D 

We played a drinking game like that at a bachelorette party a few weeks ago.  You find out some interesting stuff playing those games. :D

i dare ya to start an "anybody want to talk about buttpluggin'' thread.

Is there something you want to share with us, Chrissy?  ;D


Uh.....the average gas price in Goldsboro, NC is $2.359.  That's all I have.........for now. :D

i dare ya to start an "anybody want to talk about buttpluggin'' thread.


LOL  I think we had something similar on the old rated X inthe00s messageboard.

This is so funny because I'm listening to Howard Stern and they're talking about anal sex right now. ;D

This is so funny because I'm listening to Howard Stern and they're talking about anal sex right now. ;D
that's actually not that strange a coincidence.  ;D

that's actually not that strange a coincidence.  ;D


Yeah...I thought about that after I posted. ;D

Gas:  $2.45

Diesel:  $2.44

Gas:  30 mpg on a good day

Diesel:  55 mpg

Hmmm.

i dare ya to start an "anybody want to talk about buttpluggin'' thread.


Hey, I started the "Ask Me About Porn" thread.

But sorry, I have no experience in buttpluging.

Gas:  $2.45

Diesel:  $2.44

Gas:  30 mpg on a good day

Diesel:  55 mpg

Hmmm.


I have long supported Diesel.  While it may be more polluting, it is also the easiest to convert to "Alternative Fuels".  A lot of farmers in the area have converted their tractors to Bio-Diesel.  And if I ever get another vehicle, it will probably be a diesel for the same reason.

In fact, spending $75-200 converting a diesel engine can even get you free fuel.  Most resteraunts pay to have their waste fryer oil disposed of.  However, with some straining it can be run in a diesel engine.  A lot of individuals in the country are already powering their vehicles this way, reducing their effective fuel costs to nothing.

And if you are running low on fuel, ignore the gas station.  Simply go to the local Grocery Store and buy some Wesson.  This will make both Florence Henderson and Mother Nature happy.  8)

I wonder how much it would cost me to roll my loan over to a diesel-powered VW.

I took the Harris Ranch exit off I-5 to get some gas and the cheapest was $3.05/gal. Ah well...

I took the Harris Ranch exit off I-5 to get some gas and the cheapest was $3.05/gal. Ah well...


That is not unusual for Harris Ranch though.  Being in the middle of nowhere on the Grapevine, gas there is normally between 5-15 cents more then anywhere else in the state.

I used to drive the 5 between Vallejo and LA every month, and tried to avoid getting gas along there if I could.  But because of the distances, I always had to fill up somewhere between Lost Hills and Buttonwillow.  All the station owners in the area know this, and take advantage of it.

But sorry, I have no experience in buttpluging.


Damn, are you good for anything? ;) ;D

But sorry, I have no experience in buttpluging.
it's better in the movies than in real life. and i was pitching! i was just kinda... gross.

best left to the professionals, i think.

Damn, are you good for anything? ;) ;D

We finally found a subject Mr. Mushroom doesn't have the skinny on!
I know some dudes who know a thing or two about it, butt for some reason, I've never bothered to ask!

I noticed the prices shot up about $.15 here.  The local cheapest was $2.35 for 87 grade at Cumby's.  They could charge $5.35 and I'd still hafta pay it.  They've got me by the bells!
::)

$0.00 at the nearby gas station, thanks to a fire at a gas station, somewhere in Ontario.

$0.00 at the nearby gas station, thanks to a fire at a gas station, somewhere in Ontario.

Well, there was one place around here where they put the decimal in the wrong place:
"$233./gal."
"Why they no stop here no more, boss?"
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I think gas is about $2.25 at the QT near my house.

Well, there was one place around here where they put the decimal in the wrong place:
"$233./gal."
"Why they no stop here no more, boss?"
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LOL! :D
Sometime a few months ago, some wiseacre transposed the numbers on the board listing the gas prices at the local Shell station, so instead of $2.15 it showed $5.12 ::) At first I was stunned when I saw that!



Anyway, it's an even three dollars at that station now.

The Shell station near my home:
Tuesday night: $3.00 for mid-grade gas.
Wednesday night: $3.09 " " " "
Thursday night: $3.15


I wonder how it is in other parts of the country. :o

I haven't bought gas in a few weeks.  That's the nice thing about living in a city that's about a square mile. ::)

$0.00 at the nearby gas station, thanks to a fire at a gas station, somewhere in Ontario.


I saw that at several Esso stations.  I had to drive out of my way to a Petro Canada

ours is now up to $2.63/gallon....totally insane.

ours is now up to $2.63/gallon....totally insane.

That's cheap compared to So-Cal's current gas prices, lol. I initially had plans to go out for dinner tonight, but I think I'll just stay home so we can save gasoline for going to church tomorrow.

It's about 2.47 here.  I checked the LA area...it's about 3.03 there.

One of the executives of a local oil company came into my store today, and one of the things I found out kinda surprised me.  And it was mostly a surprise because I am not surprised that people have not realized this earlier.

The simple fact, is that the oil companies can't lower the price they charge for gasoline.  Because it is against the law.

Back in 1911, the Standard Oil company was broken up because of anti-trust regulations.  One of the major charges was that John Paul Getty's oil company was selling gasoline below cost, in order to drive the competition out of business.  Some of the anti-trust regulations put into place was to prevent companies from selling their product below "cost or market price".

And the price of Gasoline is set by the world commodities markets.  If the world commodity price is $100 a barrel, then by law, the oil companies can't sell gasoline for less.  And since they produce between 20-45% of their own oil, that means gross profits off of the oil they produce themselves.

So what is the solution?  Well, either getting after OPEC, which actually sets the "benchmark price" on crude oil.  Or on the commodities speculators who drive the price up even more.

Or we can deregulate the industry, and allow them to sell oil for below the international market price.  Because under current US Laws, they are not allowed to do so.

It's $2.45 here. 


http://www.gasbuddy.com


You can check where the lowest prices in the country are AND you can plot gas prices between up to 3 cities for a 3 year period to see how they've gone up and down.  Back in 2004, a gallon of gas in the Atlanta area was $1.56.  The good old days.

The Shell station near my home:
Tuesday night: $3.00 for mid-grade gas.
Wednesday night: $3.09 " " " "
Thursday night: $3.15


I wonder how it is in other parts of the country. :o



LOL I had to see where you lived cuz that sounds about right...for LA  I'm in Santa Barbara and its like 3.11 - 3.19 but 3.29 in Montecito...

About $3.00 in San Diego, and it's only March.

LOL I had to see where you lived cuz that sounds about right...for LA  I'm in Santa Barbara and its like 3.11 - 3.19 but 3.29 in Montecito...



Actually, I live in the city of Oxnard, which is located about 60 miles WNW of central Los Angeles.

Actually, I live in the city of Oxnard, which is located about 60 miles WNW of central Los Angeles.


gotta love the 'nard what with its red lobster, best buy and close proximity to the camarillo outlets.  the costco gas station was only $2.91 on Tuesday (3/13) I say only like its a good thing but regular in Montecito that same day was 3.39 for regular.

I got some gas for 2.42 today...not bad considering.

It's $2.39 here now.

It's $3.50 in southern California now! Ouch!! :o

It is currently around $2.80 here.

It's expensive. I believe around $3.50/gal.

It's $3.50 in southern California now! Ouch!! :o


Yeah, and it's only Spring right now.

Last I checked, it was about 89.9/L

Every so often, the gas stations up on the reservation lower it into the 70 range for like an hour or so, and the cars lined up is unbelievable :o

It's expensive. I believe around $3.50/gal.

It's right at that level once again over here. :o :o It's never been this high before.

I just hope it doesn't go up to four dollars a gallon anytime soon....although I'm not holding my breath. ::)

$3.09 here in Illinois.. but it's still $2.90 over in Missouri.

Northern Virginia:  Regular is around 2.99 /gallon, the high octane is about 3.30 /gallon.

It's been between $2.99 and $3.05 for the cheap stuff the past few days.  I think we're headed for that Memorial Day weekend spike.
(W.Mass.)

Passed this sign the other day 3.79 ~ 3.89 ~ 3.99 (in Santa Barbara)

^ DAMN!!

I filled up today for $2.87 a gallon, damned if I was gonna miss that!!

It was $2.99/gallon here. >:(

I paid $2.99 a gallon last time I bought gas.

I paid $1.07/L last time I got gas.  Up on the indian reserve it was 99.9/L

As soon as I get my native band card, I'll be able to get gas much much cheaper

And the moral of this little tale is... whatever you're paying for gas, and whatever you're driving -- be it an all-electric Tesla Roadster, a Prius that you hacked to recharge from cheap overnight "plug it into the wall" electricity and get 100+ miles-per-electric-bill-cost-of-a-gallon-of-gas, a 60+ MPG Vespa scooter, a 40+ motorcycle, a 30-something MPG biodiesel conversion, or even a 10-20 MPG retro luxo-barge from the 50s-80s -- enjoy every mile you drive.  At least, enjoy it enough to say you got your money's worth from every gallon you poured into it.

And the moral of this little tale is... whatever you're paying for gas, and whatever you're driving -- be it an all-electric Tesla Roadster, a Prius that you hacked to recharge from cheap overnight "plug it into the wall" electricity and get 100+ miles-per-electric-bill-cost-of-a-gallon-of-gas, a 60+ MPG Vespa scooter, a 40+ motorcycle, a 30-something MPG biodiesel conversion, or even a 10-20 MPG retro luxo-barge from the 50s-80s -- enjoy every mile you drive.  At least, enjoy it enough to say you got your money's worth from every gallon you poured into it.


Roll down the window, crank up the stereo, piss off the neighbors!

I figure, it's costing a dollar every ten miles, may as well multi-task and be obnoxious whilst I'm at it!

I figure, it's costing a dollar every ten miles, may as well multi-task and be obnoxious whilst I'm at it!


...with whaleskin hubcaps, and all-leather cow interior, and big brown baby seal eyes for headlights!  Yeah!  And I'm gonna drive in that baby at 115 miles per hour, gettin' one mile per gallon, suckin' down quarter-pounder cheeseburgers from McDonalds in the old-fashioned non-biodegradable styrofoam containers...

(I can't yet afford a Tesla, I admire the engineering of the Prius - and while a Prius would probably be my choice for a "second car / daily driver" for its hacking possibilities, but by Dobbs, I enjoy my luxobarge, and as long as I have room in my budget for only one car, then the restored luxo-barge it is!)

...with whaleskin hubcaps, and all-leather cow interior, and big brown baby seal eyes for headlights!  Yeah!  And I'm gonna drive in that baby at 115 miles per hour, gettin' one mile per gallon, suckin' down quarter-pounder cheeseburgers from McDonalds in the old-fashioned non-biodegradable styrofoam containers...

(I can't yet afford a Tesla, I admire the engineering of the Prius - and while a Prius would probably be my choice for a "second car / daily driver" for its hacking possibilities, but by Dobbs, I enjoy my luxobarge, and as long as I have room in my budget for only one car, then the restored luxo-barge it is!)


Mmmmmm... barge.

I'd love something with more chrome than Buckingham palace.

...with whaleskin hubcaps, and all-leather cow interior, and big brown baby seal eyes for headlights!  Yeah!  And I'm gonna drive in that baby at 115 miles per hour, gettin' one mile per gallon, suckin' down quarter-pounder cheeseburgers from McDonalds in the old-fashioned non-biodegradable styrofoam containers...
Denis Leary at his most eloquent :)


I'd love something with more chrome than Buckingham palace.

That's easy: there is no chrome at Buckingham Palace - if it's that shiny, it's silver

Denis Leary at his most eloquent :)
That's easy: there is no chrome at Buckingham Palace - if it's that shiny, it's silver


:-[

Now my ignorance shows.. even after living in London.. I've never even looked twice at Buckingham Palace, one would just assume they had bathrooms covered with chrome fittings. I would!

Passed this sign the other day 3.79 ~ 3.89 ~ 3.99 (in Santa Barbara)

They've got us.  We couldn't give up our cars if we wanted to....and Californians will never want to, for a person's car is how they measure his worth as a human being.  Or so those who live in L.A. tell me.

Seriously, what are we going to do?  Are we going to boycott the oil cartel?  There's a reason why the government broke up Standard Oil in 1911, and you're seeing it now!

Passed this sign the other day 3.79 ~ 3.89 ~ 3.99 (in Santa Barbara)

Holy crap...that's about 35-40 miles away from where I live. :o :o

They went through the roof a long time ago.

Thankfully, the ones by my house actually went down a few cents this week.

$3.31

>:(

They've got us.  We couldn't give up our cars if we wanted to....and Californians will never want to, for a person's car is how they measure his worth as a human being.  Or so those who live in L.A. tell me.

Seriously, what are we going to do?  Are we going to boycott the oil cartel?  There's a reason why the government broke up Standard Oil in 1911, and you're seeing it now!


Yeah I thought about giving up the car... I have 6 more work days until payday - 13 actual days - I am almost on "E",  I have -$55 dollars in the bank, almost maxed out my credit card, and I live 2+ miles from the nearest bus stop- 17miles from work.  I work 14 hour days and no one else is on the schedule I am so car pooling is out of the question.  Don't know what to do....

Where I live was just voted the "most expensive gas in the country" ::)  I paid $3.32 the other day in a different town, but gas in ours went from $3.42-$3.46-$3.49 in one day and I think it's now $3.57 :o

Where I live was just voted the "most expensive gas in the country" ::)  I paid $3.32 the other day in a different town, but gas in ours went from $3.42-$3.46-$3.49 in one day and I think it's now $3.57 :o


I saw that on the news last night, I don't get how Chicago is the most expensive, when parts of California routinely touch $4.00?

I saw that on the news last night, I don't get how Chicago is the most expensive, when parts of California routinely touch $4.00?

We're not up to $4/gal yet...but with the way things are going, I'm not holding my breath :-\\

$3.29. Cost me 53 freakin' dollars to fill up my tank today.  >:(

They've got us.  We couldn't give up our cars if we wanted to....and Californians will never want to, for a person's car is how they measure his worth as a human being.  Or so those who live in L.A. tell me.

Seriously, what are we going to do?  Are we going to boycott the oil cartel?  There's a reason why the government broke up Standard Oil in 1911, and you're seeing it now!
Guess I'd might as well try to find the blueprints for the old Stanley Steamer and get cracking on it. It'd be kind of nice if I could jerk the V-8 out of my Crown Vic and replace it with a steam powerplant, and then mount an old train whistle on the roof so I could blast it every time I pass a gas station just to say "F**K YOU!" to Big Oil.
  Of course, it would be rather inconvenient (not to mention messy), since I'd have to rip out my back seat so I'd have somewhere to store the coal, plus I'd need someone to ride shotgun with me all the time to keep the boiler stoked.
    Any volunteers?  :D :D :D

We're not up to $4/gal yet...but with the way things are going, I'm not holding my breath :-\\


We have held steady at 3.45 & 3.47 for regular unleaded...although that one crazy gas station still has the 3.79 ~ 3.89 ~3.99 I posted last week.  The station across the street from them is at 3.72 ~3.82 and 3.92.  I hope we hit a downslide after memorial day weekend. 

$3.29. Cost me 53 freakin' dollars to fill up my tank today.  >:(Guess I'd might as well try to find the blueprints for the old Stanley Steamer and get cracking on it. It'd be kind of nice if I could jerk the V-8 out of my Crown Vic and replace it with a steam powerplant, and then mount an old train whistle on the roof so I could blast it every time I pass a gas station just to say "F**K YOU!" to Big Oil.
  Of course, it would be rather inconvenient (not to mention messy), since I'd have to rip out my back seat so I'd have somewhere to store the coal, plus I'd need someone to ride shotgun with me all the time to keep the boiler stoked.
    Any volunteers?  :D :D :D


Done and Done.

And if the steam-powered car isn't enough, how about a steam-powered Victorian mobile home?

It may not be efficient, but it's fun as all hell to see.

You americans are so spoiled!

Try $6.46 :o

Lately,i feel so bad asking someone for a ride,they don't leave me at the door anymore,they come on up for coffee and cake,and can use the restroom 'cause i feel the need to pay em somehow  :-\\

You americans are so spoiled!

Try $6.46 :o


Where's that at? :o

Where's that at? :o


Portugal.. and that's cheap in Europe.

In England, Holland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland etc the price is far closer to $10.00.

Portugal.. and that's cheap in Europe.

In England, Holland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland etc the price is far closer to $10.00.

Wowwee. :o

So let me get this straight...their prices are equivalent to 10 US dollars?

Wowwee. :o

So let me get this straight...their prices are equivalent to 10 US dollars?


Yeah, gas is cheap in the US.

Before I moved back to the US from England it would routinely cost me $150+ to fill the tank on my Freelander.

Yeah, gas is cheap in the US.

Compared to gas in other countries, yes.

Compared to gas in other countries, yes.


MmmHmm.

.. and that's the price we pay for developing such a reliance on gasoline.

But still, trust me, running a car in the US is incredibly cheap compared to most other developed nations.

Insurance is about a third as much as in most European nations, vehicles themselves are cheaper, there are far less taxes on automobiles, less toll-roads and gasoline is far, far cheaper.

I paid $41 for 11 gallons yesterday.  :o And I have a small commuter Civic  :\'(

I filled my car last night and kept the receipt so I could do the conversion.

I put in about 12 US gallons and paid the equivalent of $87.33

I filled my car last night and kept the receipt so I could do the conversion.

I put in about 12 US gallons and paid the equivalent of $87.33


Run,Karen,Run :D

Oh you will move to America right? Very cool btw!

I've said it before, I wouldn't mind gas prices going double what they are right now if driving was a luxury not a necessity.  A hundred million other Americans and I do not live and work where this is viable mass transit.  That's not how America was civilly engineered for the past 80 years.  The entire layout of the American suburb/exurb---and then most American cities--was prejudiced in favor of the automobile.

Sure, you could move to Manhattan and give up your car, but you'd spend EVEN MORE money for the OUTRAGEOUS expenses of living in NYC.

If I could leave my car in the driveway and just take troilleys and buses everywhere, I wouldn't mind if gas went up to $8 a gallon.

Wowwee. :o

So let me get this straight...their prices are equivalent to 10 US dollars?


Don't forget they usually price in Liters not gallons. so unless they did the math it could be more than $10 but Europe has better public transportation than most places in the US so I don't feel so bad.

Don't forget they usually price in Liters not gallons. so unless they did the math it could be more than $10 but Europe has better public transportation than most places in the US so I don't feel so bad.

That's right, they use the metric system over there. I could easily convert litres to gallons and figure out the exact equivalence.

I have never been to Europe, but I do know about their public transportation system, having heard about it from people who have been there.

Don't forget they usually price in Liters not gallons. so unless they did the math it could be more than $10 but Europe has better public transportation than most places in the US so I don't feel so bad.


Yeah, public transport is great there.. if you live in a big city.

Live in London, Paris, Lyon, Berlin, Munchen, Amsterdam.. yup, you'll only need a car if you go outside the city.. of course, to rent a closet will cost you about $1000 a week, but hey, you've got public transport.  ;)

Yeah, public transport is great there.. if you live in a big city.

Live in London, Paris, Lyon, Berlin, Munchen, Amsterdam.. yup, you'll only need a car if you go outside the city.. of course, to rent a closet will cost you about $1000 a week, but hey, you've got public transport.  ;)


Yes that's true,some people rather have the BIG house,the BIG car, the BIG boring life in the suburbs ::)

Yeah, public transport is great there.. if you live in a big city.

Live in London, Paris, Lyon, Berlin, Munchen, Amsterdam.. yup, you'll only need a car if you go outside the city.. of course, to rent a closet will cost you about $1000 a week, but hey, you've got public transport.  ;)


Most of my family in Holland travel by train when they want to get out of the city.

Most of my family in Holland travel by train when they want to get out of the city.


I don't know how expensive the trains are in Holland, when I lived in France as a kid we took the train to places and it was cheap, but in England and Germany the train prices are ridiculous. To travel 100 miles in England from Leicester to London you can often pay as much as 50 pounds or more.. that's $100 - May as well drive.

Yes that's true,some people rather have the BIG house,the BIG car, the BIG boring life in the suburbs ::)


Ahem, I live in the city and always have apart from in Chicago.. where it was just not possible.. but you try and afford an apartment in the West End, it's not actually possible.

I just topped off my tank in Hart, MI (which is approx 70 miles due west of where I live) and I paid $3.34 a gal.  When I got into Big Rapids (where I live) I saw that it is $3.58

Of course, hubby refused to stop on our way home this past weekend at any of the stations where gas was $3.19 (because I still had over 1/2 tank) so I ended up paying $3.54 2 days later (since I was under 1/4 tank).  Oh, and he also refused to stop where gas was $3.09 on the way out because of the same reason.  He also wouldn't take the extra 2 minutes to get the cashier at Wal-Mart to reload the gift card so we could save 3 cents/gallon because "it's only a dollar or so".....thing is, save a buck or two twenty times and you've got $20-40. ::)  Why can he not understand that burning through $3.19 (or lower) gas is much more sensible than burning through $3.54? 

Wow - Ferguson; MO $2.92!  :o

Over the past couple weeks, it's been going down little by little in CA. Still above three bucks a gallon though. I'd like for it to come down a whole dollar, lol.

"Down" to 3.17 (as of this morning) here in Big Rapids, MI.  This past Sunday I could have gotten it over in Hart & Shelby for 3.09 (when it was 3.21 here).

The cheapest I've seen around here lately is $2.93

Just filled up for $2.73 a gallon.

There's a lot to be said for living on the border of Illinois and Missouri. My tax dollars go to the Illinois state government who provide all manner of wonderful social welfare programs (Including a pretty good health care system) but my sales tax dollars all go to the Missouri state government, who basically do nothing and as such have very low levels of tax on everything.

$2.73 on one side of the river, still about $3.10 here in Ill-E-noiz.

Yes that's true,some people rather have the BIG house,the BIG car, the BIG boring life in the suburbs ::)


Somewhere, Peter Gabriel is weeping claymation tears.

(But not me... I'm smarter than that!  I worked it out!  I'll be stretching my mouth to let this big post come right out!  I'm heading up, I'm getting out, to the city, the big, big city.  I'll be a big noise, with all the big boys.  So much stuff I will own!  And I will pray to a big God, and I kneel in the big church...)

$2.97 here in Illinois, I saw it at $2.71 in Missouri earlier.

Paid $3.01 or $3.02 this afternoon (Micah got it for me, haven't checked receipt yet)

$2.89 in Hart.  I'm filling up before I leave tomorrow.

Last night when I was coming home, I finally saw a gasoline price less than $3/gal!!



But it was only $2.99.

All the way down to $2.60 something in St. Louis, $2.83 in Ill-e-noize.