Falling of a log in Frogger or boucing around on triangles in Qbert or eatting dots in Pac-Man, or jumping barrels in Donkey Kong....to now you have games where people are car jacked, beat up, you rob people, there's hookers on the corners, stuff like that has no sense being marketed as a "game"...because isn't a game suppose to be fun?? How do people take pleasure in stuff like that?

I think it absolutely has a direct link to why the whole world is so rude ....people do use the media to copy the behavior they see off tv, in music, and with the role model choices kids have these days it isn't a wonder they act the way they do...all the sports heros have been arrested for drugs or sexual harrassment, even rape....the women are total sleaze bags that step out of a car with their boob hanging out, and they don't even care that anybody saw it-and they want people to see it-I mean come on they paid big bucks for those things, ya gotta let everyone look, or they have like a piece of dental floss on to cover themselves...Girls have who...Britney Spears??? The Olsen twins?? Anna Nicole Smith?? Paris Hilton??  That is so scary just to think about, girls have Bratz dolls to play with ...those things give me the creeps...I can't stand their big lips and no nose faces...it is awful, it's no wonder plastic surgery is so insane.

It is so crazy how we have just gone down hill in the past 20 years...not even so much as the fashion sucks, the music sucks, tv sucks, and the movies suck...but people totally suck....they really do, it is so hard to meet decent people who you can trust, who won't slit your throat, who aren't liars, or who aren't insane and on some kind of medicine for depression, everyone is one gigantic ball of disfunction any more.  It is really sad....that is what I am so sick of.....is just the way the world has become.

^If you ever run for prez, ya got my vote!  ;)

Seriously, I agree 100% with everything you've said. Young people aren't using their imaginations any more, so when some of them become game designers, they have to get ideas from outside sources. When you watch tv, play video games, etc. the brain basically shuts down from lack of stimulation. Motor skills improve and adrenalin rises but very little to do with intelligence is derived from it.
Obesity in kids is out of control probably because they sit around eating hi-carb processed junk and hardly ever go out and play. Jeez, ride a bike.
I asked one ofmy nieces a question once which involved a bit of imagination and she just stared at me. I asked her if she uses her imagination at school and she told me they aren't allowed to. Something is wrong there.
They'll play the older games. I have an Atari 2600, 1st generation NES, Sega Master System, and Sega Genesis. They love to play the Atari and the NES. No way, if I had kids, would I buy the crap they call entertainment these days.

Falling of a log in Frogger or boucing around on triangles in Qbert or eatting dots in Pac-Man, or jumping barrels in Donkey Kong....to now you have games where people are car jacked, beat up, you rob people, there's hookers on the corners, stuff like that has no sense being marketed as a "game"...because isn't a game suppose to be fun?? How do people take pleasure in stuff like that?

Totally agree. The early games were alot more rounded. It was more cool to be "fun and innocent" I think. Even the "violence" - when it existed - was alot more cartoony and seemed to be more balanced.

In an attempt to play Devil's Advocate though (because I always try and look at everything from both points of view), I think people enjoy "extreme" games like that, not to become violent, but I think it actually can work to relieve anger and stress with some people. Now, it

^that's so sad, that everyone's yelling at cashiers. i have this deli i like to go to and the people there are non-native english speakers so a lot of times the customers have to repeat their orders. i think it's cute and endearing because i've been going there for a long time and all the other regulars just repeat their orders without thinking much about it -- and the people who work there never get it wrong, they just have to have it repeated sometimes -- but this one lady started yelling at them one day, it really bummed me out. so uncalled for!

i think the reasons why people are ruder than they used to be, and are all into this violent stuff, are complicated. i think it's partly because there's no sense of community or collective enterprise anymore, people no longer feel like we're all in it together or that we as a society are going in some particular direction, trying to accomplish something together -- you know, anything, end world hunger or stop wars or put a man on the moon or anything. the values of this society are just, make a buck and get one over on the other guy. and it's very sad.

i also, i was going on in another thread about this george will column in the paper yesterday where he talks about this a bit -- people aren't civil anymore because they're so often on their cell phones or watching dirty movies on their ipods or what have you that even when they're in public, they're not. they're not even aware of the people around them, just in their own little world. george will boils it down to the "welfare state," which struck me as pretty prespammersite because people on welfare can't afford all this stuff! so what the eff? but i think that's part of the problem, george will and everybody else going, hey, forget the other guy. if they're on welfare they should just go get stuffed. so even when he's talking about how uncharitable people are, he's being uncharitable.

i think some of it boils down to that people are now "consumers," not citizens. we all see ourselves subconsciously as customers who are always right and should always have our least whim indulged. i think it's watching all these ads all their lives people start to feel this sense of entitlement, that they should always be indulged and that their needs are the most important thing in the world. because that's what advertising tells people, that's the message of it.

^that's so sad, that everyone's yelling at cashiers. i have this deli i like to go to and the people there are non-native english speakers so a lot of times the customers have to repeat their orders. i think it's cute and endearing because i've been going there for a long time and all the other regulars just repeat their orders without thinking much about it -- and the people who work there never get it wrong, they just have to have it repeated sometimes -- but this one lady started yelling at them one day, it really bummed me out. so uncalled for!

i think the reasons why people are ruder than they used to be, and are all into this violent stuff, are complicated. i think it's partly because there's no sense of community or collective enterprise anymore, people no longer feel like we're all in it together or that we as a society are going in some particular direction, trying to accomplish something together -- you know, anything, end world hunger or stop wars or put a man on the moon or anything. the values of this society are just, make a buck and get one over on the other guy. and it's very sad.

i also, i was going on in another thread about this george will column in the paper yesterday where he talks about this a bit -- people aren't civil anymore because they're so often on their cell phones or watching dirty movies on their ipods or what have you that even when they're in public, they're not. they're not even aware of the people around them, just in their own little world. george will boils it down to the "welfare state," which struck me as pretty prespammersite because people on welfare can't afford all this stuff! so what the eff? but i think that's part of the problem, george will and everybody else going, hey, forget the other guy. if they're on welfare they should just go get stuffed. so even when he's talking about how uncharitable people are, he's being uncharitable.

i think some of it boils down to that people are now "consumers," not citizens. we all see ourselves subconsciously as customers who are always right and should always have our least whim indulged. i think it's watching all these ads all their lives people start to feel this sense of entitlement, that they should always be indulged and that their needs are the most important thing in the world. because that's what advertising tells people, that's the message of it.


Good post - really makes me think.

Now that you mention it, I think this kinda corralates to an article I was reading somewhere about how the average person doesn't care about politics as much as, say back in the 60's.

I think that boils down to the same kind of thing as general friendliess and caring amongst people. Back then, we cared about politics, and ultimately each other, because we "had" to. In other words, our future often depended on it - whether it was Vietnam or a number of other things - but today we don't really "need" it as much, just because life is much easier for us, so we can afford to sit back and live in our own world.

That can make us more concerned for ourself and less about other people.

Gosh, you guys sure have A LOT to say! ;) ;D ;D

Tia and Marty- That is EXACTLY what I am talking about. I honestly can not take people and their cell phones...my husband always says...if they are that important they should have stayed at home...I hate being in the grocery store and people blocking the aisles because they are gabbing on the phone in the grocery store with someone and debating on what brand of crackers to buy...I see it every time I am at the store, and I think how did society function without a cell phone?? We have one, but we hardly use it, we only got it incase we break down...and the only reason we did that, is because you can't trust people, that if you break down anyone will help you, or that someone doesn't come along and rob you , it is all so crazy.  People are so untrusting. I had my credit card stolen through paypal a few months ago, and someone took $1200 off my account, and went and had a hay day out in California with my card.. my bank gave me back the money...but still I couldn't do ANYTHING about it, my police have no juristiction over California, and you can't even notify the FBI unless it is over $10,000, and I contacted the Long Beach police, and told them I could give them the exact location of the atm machine the people used, and the time and date, and all they would have had to do was go check the survellience camera at the atm for that date, but they wouldn't, and since that happened to me, I probably have gotten the same email like 3 more times, on a bogus Paypal logo and everything, and bogus email address, that totally looks authentic, and people have no guilt in doing that...I could have had a kid with cancer or something horrible, that they could have screwed me all up for days on having money...and they didn't care. They probably went to Hawaii with my money.  I get so sick of the kids in school who are so evil but then the teachers are just as mean, and it's like why did they become a teacher for if they are so mean?? And I have had to deal with alot of doctor's lately, over a friend of mine that had cancer...and they don't care to treat the person, all they care about is who's paying the bill, and they want that all lined up before you can even step foot through the door, it is all about money.

Everything is about money...people don't realize how good they have it, if you look at where we all were in history just 100 years ago...nobody had anything, and even the people on welfare, don't have to worry about using an outhouse, and having to milk a cow, or make their own butter...and just having heat was a luxury...and people are so out of touch with the basic neccisities of life, that it is sad.
And people will shoot ya for no reason, and it doesn't matter where...I have a good friend that lives in Tacoma, WA, and I had seen on the news where some crazy gunman went in to a mall to a Sam Goody music place, and was shooting people, she goes there all the time, it scares me to death.
Your just not safe any more. You can't let your kids out of your sight....if you do...your nuts for doing it...because they might not ever come back, and if you say you can't think about that or live like that...then you aren't clued in to the news and how horrible the word is.  And that's what I am sick of...other people have mad me have to think about every single thing I do, because there is so much craziness out there...that you can't realx and enjoy life any more, because everyone is on the verge of killing someone.
And I don't remember growing up like that...sure bad things happened all the time, but it wasn't so horrible like you hear mothers drowning their own kids in their car, and brothers killing their parents cause they were molested all their lives, or a husband killing his wife cause she meet someone else...I mean it is crazy, if someone doesn't want you...then let them go, obviously your better off without that person.  But, people are so jealous of each other anymore...and worried about who has a nicer SUV...and I like having nice stuff myself...I figure my husband works hard ever day and we pay our bills, and I make personal choices every single day to spend money on my home and my family...I don't drink or smoke, or eat out all the time, so I have had friends who get jealous of my life too...but they could have everything I have...but blow their money on stupid crap...so I decided I don't care...everyone has a choice in life, if you want the life of someone else, then you go do the work it takes that it took them to get it, and you can have it too, but to sit around and moan and groan and complain about everything...that makes me crazy, cause I see so many people who act like that.
I use to do all kinds of volunteer work, even as a teenager...I was a candy striper and worked as a camp counselor, I was in the Big Brothers/Big Sisters assoc., I worked for the SPCA, I worked for the boyscouts when my son was involved in it...but you know you get burned out, because any more when you help people out...you never are appreciated...someone just wants more and more, and is never satisfied with what you give them, and they complain about places that are helping them...as if those place should do 10 times more...and you get sick and tired of all of it.

Or when they leave it anywhere on the ground and don't pick it up. :P >:(



Yeah,People who smoke and leave their butts anywhere on the sidewalk. ::) :P