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Subject: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Philip Eno on 07/22/11 at 1:04 pm
A massive bomb blast has hit government buildings in the Norwegian capital Oslo, killing at least seven people and injuring several others.
PM Jens Stoltenberg described the situation as "very serious".
The bomb was followed by a fatal shooting incident near Oslo at a youth meeting of the Labour Party, which Mr Stoltenberg leads.
Norwegian media said at least four people were killed when a man opened fire indiscriminately.
Police said the suspected gunman had been arrested, TV2 reported.
No group has said they carried out the attacks but police say they believe them to be linked.
Hours after the bomb struck Oslo, officials said some people were still inside the damaged buildings, some of which were on fire.
Television footage from the government quarter showed rubble and glass from shattered windows in the streets and smoke from the fires drifting across the city. The wreckage of at least one car could be seen.
All roads into the city centre have been closed, said national broadcaster NRK, and security officials evacuated people from the area, fearing another blast.
Mr Stoltenberg, in a telephone call to Norwegian television, said all government ministers were safe.
He said he had been advised by police not to reveal his current location, but is not thought to have been in central Oslo on Friday.
"Even if one is well prepared, it is always rather dramatic when something like this happens," he said.
Egil Vrekke, Assistant Chief Constable of Oslo police told the BBC the rescue operation was ongoing.
"We are issuing warnings just make sure people are not in the area in case there are further explosions," he told the BBC.
"We have cordoned off large areas. There are bomb experts at the scene investigating whether there are other devices in the area."
A spokesman for Oslo University hospital said 10 people had been taken there for treatment, some with serious injuries.
A few hours after the explosion, reports emerged of the shooting at a Labour Party youth camp in Utoeya, an island outside the capital.
TV2 said at least four people had been killed and several injured - there were reports a gunman was wearing a police uniform.
"This created a panic situation where people started to swim from the island" said Labour Party spokesman Per Gunnar Dahl.
Mr Stoltenberg, who had been due to visit the camp on Saturday, told TV2 the situation in Utoeya was critical.
State Secretary Kristian Amundsen said Friday was a public holiday in Norway so the government offices were not as busy as they might usually have been.
"But there are many hundreds of people in these buildings every day," he told the BBC.
"We have to focus on the rescue operation - there are still people in the building, there are still people in the hospital."
Reuters said the oil ministry was among the other government buildings hit, while NRK journalist Ingunn Andersen said the headquarters of tabloid newspaper VG were also damaged.
"It's complete chaos here. The windows are blown out in all the buildings close by," she told AP.
Oistein Mjarum, head of communications for the Norwegian Red Cross, which has offices nearby, said the blast could be heard across Oslo.
"This is a very busy area on Friday afternoon and there were a lot of people in the streets, and many people working in these buildings that are now burning," he said.
Local resident Silvio told the BBC the blast shook everything in his apartment and that he saw several unconscious people in the street.
"If they were dead or not I wouldn't be able to tell you but they were receiving assistance at the time."
Mr Mjarum said people across Oslo and Norway were in shock.
"We have never had a terrorist attack like this in Norway - if that's what it is - but of course this has been a great fear for all Norwegians when they have seen what has been happening around the world."
The United States has condemned the "despicable acts of violence" in Oslo, while the President of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, said he was "deeply shocked" by "these acts of cowardice for which there is no justification".
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: LyricBoy on 07/22/11 at 3:04 pm
Anybody care to speculate on what sort of group would do such a thing?
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: karen on 07/22/11 at 5:35 pm
Anybody care to speculate on what sort of group would do such a thing?
It seems to be some sort of domestic political issue rather than an international terrorist organisation.
It isn't clear yet if the gunman also set the bombs.
Numbers dead and injured are still uncertain, but seem to be seven dead from the bomb and 10 shot at a youth camp
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 07/22/11 at 9:15 pm
Mr Mjarum said people across Oslo and Norway were in shock.
"We have never had a terrorist attack like this in Norway - if that's what it is - but of course this has been a great fear for all Norwegians when they have seen what has been happening around the world."
Never say never, Mr Mjarum!
:o
I saw some pictures on the news. What a big scary mess. They say the number of deaths could reach 80. It's 17 and counting right now.
I think it's somebody trying to strike fear, rather than go for maximum casualties, otherwise the perpetrators wouldn't have chosen a public holiday to bomb the buildings.
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: ChuckyG on 07/22/11 at 10:12 pm
Right Wing Extremist
The suspect arrested in today's bombing and shooting attacks in Oslo is 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik, who is believed to have links to right-wing extremist and anti-immigrant (read: anti-Muslim) organizations.
I'm sure apologies from the organizations reporting it WAS Muslims instead of an anti-Muslin nutbag will be forthcoming from the pundits. Right?
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: mitch1987 on 07/22/11 at 11:34 pm
Never say never, Mr Mjarum!
:o
I saw some pictures on the news. What a big scary mess. They say the number of deaths could reach 80. It's 17 and counting right now.
I think it's somebody trying to strike fear, rather than go for maximum casualties, otherwise the perpetrators wouldn't have chosen a public holiday to bomb the buildings.
They are now saying 87 dead. unbelievable. RIP
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 07/22/11 at 11:59 pm
They are now saying 87 dead. unbelievable. RIP
Oh, Good Christ!
My prayers for Oslo.
:\'( :\'( :\'(
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: CatwomanofV on 07/23/11 at 12:01 pm
What bothers me worse than the bomb in Oslo is THIS:
http://news.yahoo.com/police-island-shooter-fired-90-minutes-163308264.html
I have a dear friend who is from Norway. I have lost contact with her for years now (which I had been hoping to reconnect with her). I really hope that she & her family are safe.
Cat
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Foo Bar on 07/24/11 at 1:25 am
I'm sure apologies from the organizations reporting it WAS Muslims instead of an anti-Muslin nutbag will be forthcoming from the pundits. Right?
For a few nanoseconds, I'll stand in defense of said nutbags, there was a Muslim extremist organization that claimed responsibility before the truth came out that they had nothing to do with it. For the record, the extremists in question appear to have been innocent of the crime for which they tried to claim guilt.
That unpleasantness now dispensed with, I think this incident clearly demonstrates (again) that religious fanatics suck, no matter whose God they claim to be following. Cue Dr. House. "If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people."
But in the case of Norway, it's specifically hard-right self-proclaimed Christians that suck harder than WW2-era-Nazi-sympathizing self-proclaimed Muslims. As much as the Muslim nutbars might have wished they'd thought of it first, it's the guy on the right who's in the lead.
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/217/armedthistime.jpg
I'm already goin' to hell. Might as well get a window seat.
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: danootaandme on 07/24/11 at 6:41 am
Anybody care to speculate on what sort of group would do such a thing?
We were right. It was so obvious.
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Philip Eno on 07/24/11 at 10:41 am
The suspect charged with carrying out a massacre at a youth camp in Norway and a bombing in the capital, Oslo, says he acted alone, police say. Anders Behring Breivik, 32, admitted to carrying out both attacks, which he described as "gruesome but necessary".
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: karen on 07/24/11 at 2:49 pm
The suspect charged with carrying out a massacre at a youth camp in Norway and a bombing in the capital, Oslo, says he acted alone, police say. Anders Behring Breivik, 32, admitted to carrying out both attacks, which he described as "gruesome but necessary".
He says he will explain it all in court
In my opinion he shouldn't be allowed to do this. Maybe behind closed doors would be o.k. but he shouldn't get any publicity.
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 07/24/11 at 3:56 pm
Americans are shocked. The maximum penalty anybody can get for anything in Norway is 21 years in prison. Norwegians don't have crime, I guess. Just misunderstandings.
Send Anders to Texas. They'll cook his goose!
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Creeder on 07/24/11 at 5:32 pm
Huge tragedy!
R.I.P. for the innocent victims.
Yes, islamization is a terrible problem here is Europe, but this isn't the way.
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: danootaandme on 07/24/11 at 6:35 pm
Huge tragedy!
R.I.P. for the innocent victims.
Yes, islamization is a terrible problem here is Europe, but this isn't the way.
What does Islam have to do with this?
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Foo Bar on 07/24/11 at 7:16 pm
What does Islam have to do with this?
I think what he means is that killing people for not being hardline right-wingers isn't the way to advance the sorts of policies advocated by the hard right.
I'm not gonna argue that point, but only because I think killing people over political differences is a pretty crappy way to advance any political agenda. Whatever happened to simply yelling at each other?
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 07/24/11 at 11:37 pm
I think what he means is that killing people for not being hardline right-wingers isn't the way to advance the sorts of policies advocated by the hard right.
I'm not gonna argue that point, but only because I think killing people over political differences is a pretty crappy way to advance any political agenda. Whatever happened to simply yelling at each other?
"Let's kill all those guys over there" is about the oldest political agenda since the dawn of politics.
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Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Creeder on 07/25/11 at 7:35 am
What does Islam have to do with this?
The killer is an extreme right-wing conservative christian crusader, who seeks destruction of multicultural society and wants to stop the increasing muslim population in Europe.
But he is clearly out of his mind if he thinks killing people would help his cause.
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Philip Eno on 07/29/11 at 1:17 pm
The first funerals for victims of Norway's gun and bomb attacks are held, as the remaining names of the dead are released by police.
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Philip Eno on 08/14/11 at 10:09 am
Norwegian gunman Anders Behring Breivik returns to the island of Utoeya for a police reconstruction of how he shot dead 69 people there.
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 08/14/11 at 6:31 pm
Norwegian gunman Anders Behring Breivik returns to the island of Utoeya for a police reconstruction of how he shot dead 69 people there.
Breivik is a terrifying mass murderer, even by American standards.
:o
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: LyricBoy on 08/14/11 at 7:20 pm
What does Islam have to do with this?
The dude who did it hated Muslims.
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 08/14/11 at 11:34 pm
The dude who did it hated Muslims.
Fatwa time. Bye-Bye, Dude!
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Bobby on 08/15/11 at 7:07 pm
When I first saw this on the news my initial reaction was; "Why Norway?" If someone wanted to do that here in the UK I would hate it just as much but at least I could half understand someone's mentality/motivation for doing such a thing with immigration tension at fever pitch and previous trouble with terrorism. What a truly horrible tragedy.
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Foo Bar on 08/15/11 at 8:35 pm
When I first saw this on the news my initial reaction was; "Why Norway?"
In North America, we're lucky in that neo-Nazis have been a harmless joke ever since before The Blues Brothers came out. Unfortunately, the same is not true in Scandinavia.
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 08/15/11 at 9:47 pm
In North America, we're lucky in that neo-Nazis have been a harmless joke ever since before The Blues Brothers came out. Unfortunately, the same is not true in Scandinavia.
http://www.natallnews.com/images/teaser/george-lincoln-rockwell.jpg
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Don Carlos on 08/16/11 at 11:06 am
http://www.natallnews.com/images/teaser/george-lincoln-rockwell.jpg
He sure was a piece of work
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: Bobby on 08/16/11 at 6:06 pm
http://www.natallnews.com/images/teaser/george-lincoln-rockwell.jpg
Who is he, Mr.Smart? Is he a Neo Nazi?
Subject: Re: Huge bomb rocks Norwegian capital
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 08/16/11 at 7:59 pm
Who is he, Mr.Smart? Is he a Neo Nazi?
Yes sir, that's the late George Lincoln Rockwell. He was commander of the American Nazi Party from 1962-1967. He was assassinated by a disgruntled former party member. Rockwell got famous for being truly obnoxious. Nowadays he'd just get a job as a FOX News commentator.
BTW, nobody looks menacing smoking a corncob pipe!
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