http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/28/2090791/us-moves-ships-aircraft-as-libya.html

The American government should stay the hell out of this.  Let the Libyans duke it out amongst themselves.

I am OK with providing humanitarian aid, but the administraion of a "no fly zone" (as I have been hearing about more and more) should be left to members of the Arab League.

In the end whoever wins will turn on us anyway.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/28/2090791/us-moves-ships-aircraft-as-libya.html

The American government should stay the hell out of this.  Let the Libyans duke it out amongst themselves.

I am OK with providing humanitarian aid, but the administraion of a "no fly zone" (as I have been hearing about more and more) should be left to members of the Arab League.

In the end whoever wins will turn on us anyway.


Sanctions are fine with me, anything short of armed intervention.  For too long we have supported any dictator who could afford a pair of sun glasses.  Jimmy Carter tried to change that.  Now, it seems, Obama is changing it.  Is it risky?  You Bet, and given our history no wonder, but it is really nice to stand up for other people's democracy for a change

Sanctions are fine with me, anything short of armed intervention.  For too long we have supported any dictator who could afford a pair of sun glasses.  Jimmy Carter tried to change that.


Gotta call foul on that one, dude.  Jimmy helped bring Robert Mugabe to power by refusing to recognize his opponent's government, got suckered by Kim Il-Sung, Kim Jong-Il, supported Yasser Arafat, and endorsed the "election" of Hugo Chavez.  Five for five on the dictatorship front, and I've got at least three of 'em in shades from the first google image search:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_laxby1jCNh1qaasg9.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx3imx2Dls1qaasg9.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwz1xzH3bA1qaasg9.jpg

There appears to be a correlation within the dictator community between frequency of sunglasses-wearing with outright psychoticness of said dictatorship.  Chavez?  I couldn't find one in the first few pages of a google image search.  Kim Il-Sung?  He often had glasses on, but rarely shades.  Yasser Arafat was in shades, about half the time.  Kim Jong-Il, always in one particular style of heavy dark shades.  

This isn't a right/left thing.  Plenty of right-wing dictators - crazy and sane - wore shades, too.  F'rinstance, compare and contrast:

http://freshisback.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/dictators-shades.jpg

Closer to current events, you bet Mubarak's face was in shades, even as they protested him:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eT5WG0FhGIE/TVbdEilcQqI/AAAAAAAAA3I/50vMQXeVp-4/s1600/800_ap_egypt_britain_110212.jpg

But back on topic - and I don't think even Carter endorsed him - the man of the hour, who's trying to set a new record for crazy, and he almost always appears in a different set of wildly-figured or styled shades.

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/political-pictures-berlusconi-gaddafi-dictatorship-fashion.jpg

So now we know.  Cooler the uniform, bigger the threat.  (Nazis?  Damn right, coolest bad-guy-uniforms in history, designed by none other than Hugo Boss.)  But the more often seen in sunglasses, crazier the ruler.  By that standard, (looks like a dork and always wears shades), Quaddaffy's time is just about up.  

Here's another sunglassed dictator who was brought down during The Carter Years...

http://www.accuracyproject.org/z-Jones6737.jpg

Here's another sunglassed dictator who was brought down during The Carter Years...

http://www.accuracyproject.org/z-Jones6737.jpg


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rtOXMZlMTkg/S0D7RnkkpKI/AAAAAAAACdw/SHOVsUOvDhc/s640/ka_kult.jpg

Anyway, Ghadafi ain't gonna budge because Hillary Clinton says so, but the U.N. is sure gonna do something about him.  You know what they're gonna do?  They're gonna suspend Libya from the Human Rights Council! So how'dya like them apples?
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Gotta call foul on that one, dude.  Jimmy helped bring Robert Mugabe to power by refusing to recognize his opponent's government, got suckered by Kim Il-Sung, Kim Jong-Il, supported Yasser Arafat, and endorsed the "election" of Hugo Chavez.  Five for five on the dictatorship front, and I've got at least three of 'em in shades from the first google image search:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_laxby1jCNh1qaasg9.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx3imx2Dls1qaasg9.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwz1xzH3bA1qaasg9.jpg

There appears to be a correlation within the dictator community between frequency of sunglasses-wearing with outright psychoticness of said dictatorship.  Chavez?  I couldn't find one in the first few pages of a google image search.  Kim Il-Sung?  He often had glasses on, but rarely shades.  Yasser Arafat was in shades, about half the time.  Kim Jong-Il, always in one particular style of heavy dark shades.  

This isn't a right/left thing.  Plenty of right-wing dictators - crazy and sane - wore shades, too.  F'rinstance, compare and contrast:

http://freshisback.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/dictators-shades.jpg

Closer to current events, you bet Mubarak's face was in shades, even as they protested him:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eT5WG0FhGIE/TVbdEilcQqI/AAAAAAAAA3I/50vMQXeVp-4/s1600/800_ap_egypt_britain_110212.jpg

But back on topic - and I don't think even Carter endorsed him - the man of the hour, who's trying to set a new record for crazy, and he almost always appears in a different set of wildly-figured or styled shades.

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/political-pictures-berlusconi-gaddafi-dictatorship-fashion.jpg

So now we know.  Cooler the uniform, bigger the threat.  (Nazis?  Damn right, coolest bad-guy-uniforms in history, designed by none other than Hugo Boss.)  But the more often seen in sunglasses, crazier the ruler.  By that standard, (looks like a dork and always wears shades), Quaddaffy's time is just about up.  


I didn't say that Carter was consistent, or successful, just that he called attention to the issue, tried to do a bit of reorientation, unlike all his predecessors, who just "sent the marines" or the CIA

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rtOXMZlMTkg/S0D7RnkkpKI/AAAAAAAACdw/SHOVsUOvDhc/s640/ka_kult.jpg

Anyway, Ghadafi ain't gonna budge because Hillary Clinton says so, but the U.N. is sure gonna do something about him.  You know what they're gonna do?  They're gonna suspend Libya from the Human Rights Council! So how'dya like them apples?
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I was thinking of posting a pic of "Hey Kool-Aid" too, but I was running late for work.

Karma + 1 for Max...


http://americandigest.org/absolute-jonestown-pitcher-of-flavor-aid.jpg

I am sorry but I really hate the phrase "drink the Kool-Aid" because those people in Jonestown didn't drink it willingly (maybe one or two but not the masses). In fact, many of them were injected with poison. And it wasn't Kool-Aid, it was Flavor-Aid.

Sorry. I will get off my soap box now.


Cat

I am sorry but I really hate the phrase "drink the Kool-Aid" because those people in Jonestown didn't drink it willingly (maybe one or two but not the masses). In fact, many of them were injected with poison. And it wasn't Kool-Aid, it was Flavor-Aid.


Karma for historical accuracy.  And for outlining the reasons why I love the phrase.  

Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it

The quote is from Santayana in 1905, not Jones.  The photo beats the demotivational poster "Good things come to those who wait", because unlike the demotivator, it wasn't captioned or Photoshopped, and because a lot more than one guy died for it.  Jim Jones knew damn well what the endgame looked like.  (And any resemblance between Jonestown and the Scilon Basestar at Hemet, CA, is purely coincidental.)

We now return you to your local news from Libya: None other than Hugo Chavez appears to be the only guy willing to Moonmars L. Kwudhalfee the time of day, let alone acknowledge him as the ruler of Libya. Ah, paranoid nutbars with delusions of grandeur: It takes one to know one.

Karma for historical accuracy.  And for outlining the reasons why I love the phrase.  

Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it

The quote is from Santayana in 1905, not Jones.  The photo beats the demotivational poster "Good things come to those who wait", because unlike the demotivator, it wasn't captioned or Photoshopped, and because a lot more than one guy died for it.  Jim Jones knew damn well what the endgame looked like.  (And any resemblance between Jonestown and the Scilon Basestar at Hemet, CA, is purely coincidental.)

We now return you to your local news from Libya: None other than Hugo Chavez appears to be the only guy willing to Moonmars L. Kwudhalfee the time of day, let alone acknowledge him as the ruler of Libya. Ah, paranoid nutbars with delusions of grandeur: It takes one to know one.


Jones went out in a blaze of glory.  Jonestown was failing because the jungle soil was drying out and the crops were failing.  Plus Jones was hopped up on dope all the time.  Gaddafi is a madman who wants to go out with a bang not whimper.  Jones had the advantage of only having to kill 1000 people in a controlled compound.  Gaddafi rules over a nation of seven million people a good many of whom no longer want to call him "Brother."
::)

Jones went out in a blaze of glory.  Jonestown was failing because the jungle soil was drying out and the crops were failing.  Plus Jones was hopped up on dope all the time.  Gaddafi is a madman who wants to go out with a bang not whimper.  Jones had the advantage of only having to kill 1000 people in a controlled compound.  Gaddafi rules over a nation of seven million people a good many of whom no longer want to call him "Brother."
::)


I think that Jim Jones left a more lasting legacy in pop culture than Kwadaughy will.

Weird thing is, in the beginning JJ was a pioneer for black rights in Indiana. He and his wife were the first white couple to legally adopt a black child. And when his congregation refused to allow blacks to join, he told them to go pack sand, then started his own church.

Of course somewhere along the line all that power went to his head. And despite the warning signs by the time he moved his tent to Kalifornia, he was seen as a darling to the liberal class until maybe a year before the punch party.  :-\\

Jones went out in a blaze of glory.  Jonestown was failing because the jungle soil was drying out and the crops were failing.  Plus Jones was hopped up on dope all the time.  Gaddafi is a madman who wants to go out with a bang not whimper.  Jones had the advantage of only having to kill 1000 people in a controlled compound.  Gaddafi rules over a nation of seven million people a good many of whom no longer want to call him "Brother." ::)


All true, but I'm not really seeing the difference here.  

They both want to go out with a bang, they're both succeeding at epic failure, Khadaffi had 1000+ kills before Lockerbie, let alone the revolution, they're both known for Sheenesque levels of incoherency, and given the number of times Khadaffi's accused his opposition of being hopped up on goofballs, I'd wager he's on a 3-week meth bender too.

(Things To Do When I'm Retired:  Since Khadafi (I'll use an Al-Jazeera reporter quoting Khadaffi, since the original track is actually sampling Malcolm X) and Jones are already taken, there's only one sample source left to use.  When I mash up Front 242's Funkhadafi with Welcome to Paradise, I'll cram all the samples through a vocoder so they sound the same, and I'll throw in a few lines from Charlie Sheen just to see if anyone can tell the three apart.)

I'll throw in a few lines from Charlie Sheen just to see if anyone can tell the three apart.)


Those Libyan rebels are now experiencing the wrath of Quadaffy's fire breathing fists.

I am sorry but I really hate the phrase "drink the Kool-Aid" because those people in Jonestown didn't drink it willingly (maybe one or two but not the masses). In fact, many of them were injected with poison.

Here is a link to an article from one of the Jonestown collaborators survivors.  He indeed estimates that several hundred were forceably coerced into drinking the Flavorade (or otherwise injected), but he concedes that many otherwise willingly drank from the vat.

He then goes on to explain away those suicides by saying that "Those who voluntarily drank the poison through months/years of conditioning that created a state-of-siege mentality." and also thus were murdered so to speak.

But this is the essence of the "They Drank the Kool Aid" phraseology.  That if you keep pounding away at weak-minded people with propaganda, quite a large proportion of them will start to buy the cr@p and start believeing in it and go along.  Jim Jones was treating his followers like cr@p long before they all moved to Jonestown, yet they willingly all went down there en masse, and not at gunpoint.

Other writings make claims that "it has been forensically proven that all but 2 or 3 at Jonestown were murdered" but this is silliness.  914 bodies were found there, but there were neither 914 inquests nor 914 autopsies.  The majority of the dead had drank the vile substance and without an autopsy/inquest process there is no way to "forensically prove" that everybody was murdered.  Guyana in November is hot as hell, and those bodies were decomposing VERY rapidly.  The authorities made a huge effort to simply get the bodies out of there FAST to prevent disease.

Today's political rhetoric is filled with Jim Joneses on both sides of the political spectrum... and those who do not recognize this will indeed be doomed to repeat the past. The lesson of Jonestown?  Blind loyalty in the face of controverting evidence leads to disaster.

I think that Jim Jones left a more lasting legacy in pop culture than Kwadaughy will.

Weird thing is, in the beginning JJ was a pioneer for black rights in Indiana. He and his wife were the first white couple to legally adopt a black child. And when his congregation refused to allow blacks to join, he told them to go pack sand, then started his own church.

Of course somewhere along the line all that power went to his head. And despite the warning signs by the time he moved his tent to Kalifornia, he was seen as a darling to the liberal class until maybe a year before the punch party.  :-\\


He also sold monkeys door-to-door.  Jones was a strange cat.
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True: The poisoned punch was indeed a knock-off called "Flavor-Aid."
Also true: Rev. Jones did show a film crew Jonestown's pantry, in which he pointed out packets of Kool-Aid.  If I had the footage on hand, I'd post it.

Berlusconi and Gaddafi --

U-Caption-It
:D
http://unsilentgeneration.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/gaddafi-and-berlusconi-handshake.jpg

The Ministry of Defence in the UK says it will not comment on a claim in the Sunday Times that members of the SAS have been seized by rebel forces in Libya.

U-Caption-It
:D
http://unsilentgeneration.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/gaddafi-and-berlusconi-handshake.jpg



"Betcha 50 bucks that Charlie Sheen will have more headlines than you."



Cat

The Ministry of Defence in the UK says it will not comment on a claim in the Sunday Times that members of the SAS have been seized by rebel forces in Libya.
A British diplomatic team detained by Libyan rebels in Benghazi have been freed and have now left the country, the Foreign Office says.

A British diplomatic team detained by Libyan rebels in Benghazi have been freed and have now left the country, the Foreign Office says.


Must have been an interesting meeting for sure.  Those SAS guys are badazz mofos.  Must have been under extremely strict orders to not fire their weapons.  :-X

This isn't a right/left thing.  Plenty of right-wing dictators - crazy and sane - wore shades, too.  F'rinstance...


http://blogs.orange.co.uk/.a/6a00d8345192e469e20134854a1708970c-800wi




(Er...shurley shome mishtake...)

(Er...shurley shome mishtake...)


You don't vote for queens!

5Xd_zkMEgkI

(Bloody peasants! :)

You don't vote for queens!

5Xd_zkMEgkI

(Bloody peasants! :)


There you go, bringing class into it again!
;)

Must have been an interesting meeting for sure.  Those SAS guys are badazz mofos.  Must have been under extremely strict orders to not fire their weapons.  :-X

AIUI, the SAS (or SBS, as the Beeb quoted) were there to protect diplomats who were flying in to meet with rebel leaders.. but nobody told the local rebels.

Under those sorts of circumstances, I can't see them opening fire on the people they were wanting to talk to, just because those people didn't realize they were supposed to be legit.

I'm a bit surprised by the stupidity of some of the reporting, though.

AIUI, the SAS (or SBS, as the Beeb quoted) were there to protect diplomats who were flying in to meet with rebel leaders.. but nobody told the local rebels.

Under those sorts of circumstances, I can't see them opening fire on the people they were wanting to talk to, just because those people didn't realize they were supposed to be legit.


Hey, it's an awkward moment.  By pretending everyone was captured, everyone gets to pretend it didn't happen and laugh it off afterwards.


I'm a bit surprised by the stupidity of some of the reporting, though.


I'm not.  Near as I can tell, we have a stalemate, with overenthusiastic rebels trying to push towards Sirte and/or take Tripoli from the surburgs, and getting nailed by what's left of Gadaffi's mercs/forces.  That situation can't last for very long.  A UN-authorized no-fly zone, but with no foreign ground forces, would go a long way towards tipping the balance against Daffy.  But it's probably still a week or so away, and by then it might all be over anyways.

Reuters: Arab media says Gaddafi looking for exit deal

Reuters article is tl;dr?  Found this on That Other Website:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5443/libyaqnego.jpg

Yeah, pretty much that.

American politicians are increasingly talking about a no-fly zone.  A bunch of nonsense that "Well, Quadaffi has air power and that gives him an advantage over the rebels." Of course it gives him an advantage, and killing is going on from both sides of that battle.  The rebels (as well as the government) are using heavy weapons to overtake residential as well as strategic areas.

Other than humanitarian help, we should stay the hell out of this

What happens in Libya is for the Libyans to decide.

American politicians are increasingly talking about a no-fly zone.  A bunch of nonsense that "Well, Quadaffi has air power and that gives him an advantage over the rebels." Of course it gives him an advantage, and killing is going on from both sides of that battle.  The rebels (as well as the government) are using heavy weapons to overtake residential as well as strategic areas.

Other than humanitarian help, we should stay the hell out of this

What happens in Libya is for the Libyans to decide.


What about OPEC?
???

What about OPEC?
???


OPEC loves this.  With the oil price spike, they all are now cheating and overproducing.  Libya will cause ZERO oil shortage.

OPEC loves this.  With the oil price spike, they all are now cheating and overproducing.  Libya will cause ZERO oil shortage.


Aw, jeez, tell me about it.  We're up to $3.50/gal. for the cheap stuff, and we've got it cheap in Mass compared to CT and NY.
::)

American politicians are increasingly talking about a no-fly zone.  A bunch of nonsense that "Well, Quadaffi has air power and that gives him an advantage over the rebels." Of course it gives him an advantage, and killing is going on from both sides of that battle.  The rebels (as well as the government) are using heavy weapons to overtake residential as well as strategic areas.

Other than humanitarian help, we should stay the hell out of this

What happens in Libya is for the Libyans to decide.


In a way, I agree. We can't police the whole damn world, look at Iraq...we thought we could change the country, but the Iraqis don't want our change!


Here is a link to an article from one of the Jonestown collaborators survivors.  He indeed estimates that several hundred were forceably coerced into drinking the Flavorade (or otherwise injected), but he concedes that many otherwise willingly drank from the vat.

He then goes on to explain away those suicides by saying that "Those who voluntarily drank the poison through months/years of conditioning that created a state-of-siege mentality." and also thus were murdered so to speak.

But this is the essence of the "They Drank the Kool Aid" phraseology.  That if you keep pounding away at weak-minded people with propaganda, quite a large proportion of them will start to buy the cr@p and start believeing in it and go along.  Jim Jones was treating his followers like cr@p long before they all moved to Jonestown, yet they willingly all went down there en masse, and not at gunpoint.

Other writings make claims that "it has been forensically proven that all but 2 or 3 at Jonestown were murdered" but this is silliness.  914 bodies were found there, but there were neither 914 inquests nor 914 autopsies.  The majority of the dead had drank the vile substance and without an autopsy/inquest process there is no way to "forensically prove" that everybody was murdered.  Guyana in November is hot as hell, and those bodies were decomposing VERY rapidly.  The authorities made a huge effort to simply get the bodies out of there FAST to prevent disease.

Today's political rhetoric is filled with Jim Joneses on both sides of the political spectrum... and those who do not recognize this will indeed be doomed to repeat the past. The lesson of Jonestown?  Blind loyalty in the face of controverting evidence leads to disaster.


I should also let you know...Jim Jones was interested in Socialism as well. I heard this awhile ago, I don't know if that was true or not.  :-\\

OPEC loves this.  With the oil price spike, they all are now cheating and overproducing.  Libya will cause ZERO oil shortage.


But if it's any consolidation to Carlos, I've actually lost money this week.  Price of oil gets too high, world economies implode, Europe implodes harder because Brent (North Atlantic) crude has gone up higher than West Texas Intermediate (North America), and when Europe implodes, European countries' bonds get crushed, the Euro crashes against the US Dollar, and voila - my gold and silver miners and oil producers got absolutely crushed today.  Karma's a bitch!

The longer we stay out of it, the better.  The longer the UN stays out of it, however, the more likely it is Gadaffi regroups and wins.  Maybe that's what the UN wants - dither until the rebellion's crushed, and Gadaffi puts another 10000 heads on pikes pour encourager les autres ("to encourage the others").  The world calms down now that everyone in the rabble knows their place.  Feh.

I love making money no matter who wins.  I'm OK with losing money if the good guys win; that's basically a breakeven.  But I'll be goddamned if I'm going to lose fracking coin for Gadaffi.  I'm not angry - I feel anger every day.  No, this is more than anger.  I'm downright annoyed.

The longer we stay out of it, the better.  The longer the UN stays out of it, however, the more likely it is Gadaffi regroups and wins. 

The U.N. is irrelevant in armed confrontation. Any time a UN operation ostensibly intervened in armed conflict, the UN designation was a fig leaf for what essentially were American or British/French type interventions.  US/Britain/France do the real fighting while the UN supplies donuts and fresh underwear.

(Canada and Australia have also done their bit in armed interventions too but they were hardly UN-centric)

UN 'forces' will idly stand by while people are slaughtered, gang-raped, looted, and pillaged.

But if it's any consolidation to Carlos, I've actually lost money this week.  Price of oil gets too high, world economies implode, Europe implodes harder because Brent (North Atlantic) crude has gone up higher than West Texas Intermediate (North America), and when Europe implodes, European countries' bonds get crushed, the Euro crashes against the US Dollar, and voila - my gold and silver miners and oil producers got absolutely crushed today.  Karma's a bitch!

The longer we stay out of it, the better.  The longer the UN stays out of it, however, the more likely it is Gadaffi regroups and wins.  Maybe that's what the UN wants - dither until the rebellion's crushed, and Gadaffi puts another 10000 heads on pikes pour encourager les autres ("to encourage the others").  The world calms down now that everyone in the rabble knows their place.  Feh.

I love making money no matter who wins.  I'm OK with losing money if the good guys win; that's basically a breakeven.  But I'll be goddamned if I'm going to lose fracking coin for Gadaffi.  I'm not angry - I feel anger every day.  No, this is more than anger.  I'm downright annoyed.


Why should I want you to lose $$$?  Not at all.

But if it's any consolidation to Carlos, I've actually lost money this week.  Price of oil gets too high, world economies implode, Europe implodes harder because Brent (North Atlantic) crude has gone up higher than West Texas Intermediate (North America), and when Europe implodes, European countries' bonds get crushed, the Euro crashes against the US Dollar, and voila - my gold and silver miners and oil producers got absolutely crushed today.  Karma's a bitch!

The longer we stay out of it, the better.  The longer the UN stays out of it, however, the more likely it is Gadaffi regroups and wins.  Maybe that's what the UN wants - dither until the rebellion's crushed, and Gadaffi puts another 10000 heads on pikes pour encourager les autres ("to encourage the others").  The world calms down now that everyone in the rabble knows their place.  Feh.

I love making money no matter who wins.  I'm OK with losing money if the good guys win; that's basically a breakeven.  But I'll be goddamned if I'm going to lose fracking coin for Gadaffi.  I'm not angry - I feel anger every day.  No, this is more than anger.  I'm downright annoyed.



You should invest in Green Mountain Coffee. I made over $10,000 in the last 24 hours with my stock.  :o :o :o :o



Cat

This might sound controversial, but...

What would happen if Hitler wore sunglasses? :-\\

This might sound controversial, but...

What would happen if Hitler wore sunglasses? :-\\

Not much.  He's dead.

Not much.  He's dead.



Karma for making me laugh.



Cat

Why should I want you to lose $$$?  Not at all.


For the schadenfreude!  (I wouldn't begrudge you any of it!  The thing I love about the market is that it doesn't care about who's right and who's left, it cares about who's right and who's wrong.  This week, I was very, very wrong, so next week, I get to play again :)  


This might sound controversial, but...

What would happen if Hitler wore sunglasses? :-\\


He'd have probably beaten up on some group other than Jewish folks.  All those physicists would have stuck around in Germany, rather than emigrating to America.  So it would have been like the worst-case scenario of the BP oil spill last year:

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/worst_case_scenario.png

You know, like this:

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/quake1/bp1.jpg

...but with nukes!  Oh, wait.  

(I was gonna see Battle:LA last Friday, and then I realized that reality had beaten Hollywood to the punch by the time I'd woken up Friday morning.)

Unconfirmed reports on the news that British Torando planes have landed in Sicily

You should invest in Green Mountain Coffee. I made over $10,000 in the last 24 hours with my stock.  :o :o :o :o


You were long GMCR for that move? 

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/3882091790_b01833f61d.jpg

EPIC WIN!  (Seriously, you get bragging rights for killing it!)

(I thought the rumors had already been priced in last month and totally missed the real win a couple of weeks ago.  The Keurig had already changed the way a lot of people consume coffee, and the deal with SBUX pretty much cinches it.  Starbucks, realistically, couldn't have partnered with anyone else.)

The UK, the US and France fire dozens of missiles at Libya as enforcement of the UN-mandated no-fly zone gets under way.

You were long GMCR for that move? 

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/3882091790_b01833f61d.jpg

EPIC WIN!  (Seriously, you get bragging rights for killing it!)

(I thought the rumors had already been priced in last month and totally missed the real win a couple of weeks ago.  The Keurig had already changed the way a lot of people consume coffee, and the deal with SBUX pretty much cinches it.  Starbucks, realistically, couldn't have partnered with anyone else.)



I have been doing the happy dance (and I don't even drink coffee).


And yeah, we are now in a third war.  ::)


Cat

Are the Libyans still upset that Doc Brown sold them old used pinball machine parts?

http://www.gamesprays.com/images/icons/run_for_it_marty_icon1053.jpg

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/28/2090791/us-moves-ships-aircraft-as-libya.html

The American government should stay the hell out of this.  Let the Libyans duke it out amongst themselves.

I am OK with providing humanitarian aid, but the administraion of a "no fly zone" (as I have been hearing about more and more) should be left to members of the Arab League.

In the end whoever wins will turn on us anyway.
I agree we should stay out of this. I mean every problem that a nation is having we can't be part of the solution all the time. I mean I could see if the mission was to oust Qhadhafi but its not so I conclude there is no reason to be there.

I disagree why even bother sending foriegn aid to Libya when the dictator of the country hates us? Why do we have to send foriegn aid to any country?

Btw, who knows if the rebels in Lybia aren't part or have some connection to the Muslim Botherhood? We know nothing about the rebels.

Libya's foreign minister Moussa Koussa has arrived in London on a surprise visit from Tunisia, amid reports he has defected.

Not much.  He's dead.


Different "he", but it's something I can riff off of and get us back onto our original Libyan Civil War thread after a few weeks of stalemate.

http://i.imgur.com/0hDFN.jpg

Yup, he's dead.  Poop just got real (again) for Daffy. 

A NATO air strike in the Libyan capital, Tripoli, kills the youngest son of the Libyan leader, Colonel Gaddafi, a government spokesman says.

A NATO air strike in the Libyan capital, Tripoli, kills the youngest son of the Libyan leader, Colonel Gaddafi, a government spokesman says.


Yep. They snuffed 3 of his grandchildren too.

So it's a few months late.

While we've been laughing at corndog-in-the-mouth politicians and fretting about the imminent collapse of the US and European markets, the rebels have been slowly advancing, and fighting has finally broken out in Tripoli.

Latest from AJE's liveblog.  Latest chatter on the Fark thread indicates that Libyan state TV may have gone down.

Grab yer popcorn, kids!

Grab yer popcorn, kids!


I'll save my popcorn for the sequel.. "Libyan Factional Anarchy 3-D"... coming to a desert near you!

I'll save my popcorn for the sequel.. "Libyan Factional Anarchy 3-D"... coming to a desert near you!


http://i.imgur.com/wLs0T.jpg

My money's on the cute chicks that weren't part of Daffy's Glamazon guard.