Just want to know others opinion on this one. How come in this country it seems normal that our kids watch violence in movies , video games and on TV but it suddenly becomes a big no no as soon as there is a small sex scene? It really does seem that it's OK to make war kill everything that moves but to make love is the worst thing you can do.... Was once asked the question how come we teach our kids everything but how to make love?

Just want to know others opinion on this one. How come in this country it seems normal that our kids watch violence in movies , video games and on TV but it suddenly becomes a big no no as soon as there is a small sex scene? It really does seem that it's OK to make war kill everything that moves but to make love is the worst thing you can do.... Was once asked the question how come we teach our kids everything but how to make love?


How the hell should I know?  I guess it is way the American public feels, violence on television, but sex and nudity crosses the line.  The DEMOCRAT who runs the FCC likes it that way.

Just want to know others opinion on this one. How come in this country it seems normal that our kids watch violence in movies , video games and on TV but it suddenly becomes a big no no as soon as there is a small sex scene? It really does seem that it's OK to make war kill everything that moves but to make love is the worst thing you can do.... Was once asked the question how come we teach our kids everything but how to make love?


I guess you have answered your own question, GoodRedShirt. When people see a lot of anything, they become desentized to it, rendering it seemingly normal. It seems that there is an emphasis on censorship in USA at the moment and sex, not violence, is usually the yard-stick for censoring something.

How the hell should I know?  I guess it is way the American public feels, violence on television, but sex and nudity crosses the line.  The DEMOCRAT who runs the FCC likes it that way.

It's a good deal more than that.  I wasn't aware Michael Powell was a Democrat, but even if he is it makes no difference. 

The American hang-up about sex stems from the Calvinist Reformation, the residuals of which are still with us.  But the consumption of seedy television and hardcore pornography is universally popular in the U.S.  The argy-bargy about sex in the media has been going on all my life.  Every time a new taboo is shattered, he bluenoses decry it, and the American public buys it.
Remember, it may be liberals are more outspokenly tolerant of sexually explicit entertainment, but if it was only liberals buying the stuff, it wouldn't make it.
Heck, Dr. William Bennett has The Big Book of Virtues, but you can bet your sweet @ss he's also got the Big Box of Porn.

As for violence, Americans love violence, as long it's us doing it to them. 
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The Toyes summed it up in the song "What's so bad about a nipple" http://www.thetoyes.com/lyrics/lyrnipple.html

I have never understood the concept that bodies are bad but body bags are good. I would rather kids (as well as myself) see two people making love than violence. 


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The Toyes summed it up in the song "What's so bad about a nipple" http://www.thetoyes.com/lyrics/lyrnipple.html

I have never understood the concept that bodies are bad but body bags are good. I would rather kids (as well as myself) see two people making love than violence. 


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Its the Christian fundamentalist thing, you know, puritanism.  Sex is only for making babies, violance is for building nations.  The world is not to be enjoyed.  Life is a vail of tears and suffering. 


How the hell should I know? I guess it is way the American public feels, violence on television, but sex and nudity crosses the line. The DEMOCRAT who runs the FCC likes it that way.


Of course you wouldn't know, especially if you don't know that  Michael Powell, Colin's son, is a Rebuplican.  I will refrain from aying more so as not to cross the line of board edicate

Its the Christian fundamentalist thing, you know, puritanism.  Sex is only for making babies, violance is for building nations.  The world is not to be enjoyed.  Life is a vail of tears and suffering. 


Nnnnoooo, I would say that's giving Christian Fundamentalists too much true Christian credit.  "The world is not to be enjoyed" is more Catholic and Calvinist, as is "life is a vale of tears and suffering," which also reflects the Buddhist understanding of life as pain.
The American Christian Fundamentalist attitude is summed up as "God made the diamonds for His people."

As for violence, Americans love violence, as long it's us doing it to them. 
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Yeah, killing foreigners never goes out of style in America, does it?

Yeah, killing foreigners never goes out of style in America, does it?


Thanks to voters like you. And speaking of style isn't the fashion industry controlled by a tiny minority who trick the impressionable majority into making themselves poorer while increasing the wealth of the powerful minority? kind of like the Republican party

Just want to know others opinion on this one. How come in this country it seems normal that our kids watch violence in movies , video games and on TV but it suddenly becomes a big no no as soon as there is a small sex scene? It really does seem that it's OK to make war kill everything that moves but to make love is the worst thing you can do.... Was once asked the question how come we teach our kids everything but how to make love?
Dude, you just hit a major nerve with me. THANK YOU for bringing this up. I frickin' HATE this double standard our country has with sex and violence. Our media constantly bombards us with images of people dyin' and cryin', and that's perfectly all right, but Janet Jackson flashes one boob (even with the nipple covered up) and everyone all of a sudden goes apesh*t. IMO, we're not a whole lot better than the Taliban in that regard.

Yeah, killing foreigners never goes out of style in America, does it?

Who do you think you are, P.J. O'Rourke?
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Who do you think you are, P.J. O'Rourke?
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Who is that?

Who is that?

Don't yank my chain, you must have heard of P.J. O'Rourke.
Well, I shouldn't introduce people to unfunny libertarian satirists such as P.J., but here goes:
http://www.groveatlantic.com/grove/wc.dll?groveproc~genAuth~568~0

Don't yank my chain, you must have heard of P.J. O'Rourke.
Well, I shouldn't introduce people to unfunny libertarian satirists such as P.J., but here goes:
http://www.groveatlantic.com/grove/wc.dll?groveproc~genAuth~568~0


No, seriously I haven't heard on him until just now.  But I like that site....GIVE WAR A CHANCE!

Don't yank my chain, you must have heard of P.J. O'Rourke.

It's probably because he (that's O'Rourke, not GWB, of course) spends so much of his time on this side of the pond on the lecture circuit or participating in satirical news quizzes ;)  He's very witty and razor-sharp.

It's probably because he (that's O'Rourke, not GWB, of course) spends so much of his time on this side of the pond on the lecture circuit or participating in satirical news quizzes ;)  He's very witty and razor-sharp.

Yes, he is very witty, I just find him repulsive.
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Yeah, killing foreigners never goes out of style in America, does it?




Thanks to voters like you.




Touche.



Cat

Sex is the physical embodiment of *unstoppable* human drives and emotions. Love and lust will conquer any human, and if we go around actually loving eachother, we might start wanting to help eachother, and we might start wanting our government policies to reflect that attitude of love... which means the officials would no longer be able to do whatever they want.

It is only convenient that this disdain for sex is part of the American heritage of Puritanism. It's a good thing for those who want to keep love under wraps (especially if it is between two men).

GIVE WAR A CHANCE!


Does it give you some kind of vicarious thrill?  Have you ever been even close to one?  Are you will to sacrifice your kids to one?  This attitude makes me sick.

Does it give you some kind of vicarious thrill?  Have you ever been even close to one?  Are you will to sacrifice your kids to one?  This attitude makes me sick.

If you just look at the titles of P.J. O'Rourke's books, you can surmise what kind of fellow he is--witty with the tongue, erroneous with the mind.  He's a spoiled Harvard brat who worked for the National Lampoon in the '70s, Rolling Stone in the '80s, and, like David Brooks, writes worshipful articles about the rich and scorns anything liberal.  If Rush Limbaugh had a sense of humor, he would be P.J.

If you just look at the titles of P.J. O'Rourke's books, you can surmise what kind of fellow he is--witty with the tongue, erroneous with the mind.  He's a spoiled Harvard brat who worked for the National Lampoon in the '70s, Rolling Stone in the '80s, and, like David Brooks, writes worshipful articles about the rich and scorns anything liberal.  If Rush Limbaugh had a sense of humor, he would be P.J.


Unlike our conservative "friend" I knoe PJ.  I read ONE of his books once, years ago.  I  agree with your assessment.