..of course  ;D    me too, pure as the driven snow.
We should start a highly exclusive Perfect People club. Only the absolutely 100 percent virginal and pure of heart and spirit will be allowed to join. :)

women love to be taken to motels where you pay by the hour.
So what you're saying is that when their back is on a mattress, the meter is running ???

So what you're saying is that when their back is on a mattress, the meter is running ???
Pretty much. isn

Shall we try to resurrect this thread out of the gutter for when Alex gets back?  ;D ;D

Shall we try to resurrect this thread out of the gutter for when Alex gets back?   ;D ;D
pure as the driven snow! think pure as the driven snow!

We should start a highly exclusive Perfect People club. Only the absolutely 100 percent virginal and pure of heart and spirit will be allowed to join. :)


Can I be Chairperson please   ;D

I'm looking into a motel for Robin and I anyway.I'm sick and tired of not getting many intimate moments with my girlfriend and living with Parents.One motel I was looking into one that's $32 for 4 hours and $36 every other hour including taxes and gratituity.The only problem is to get her out of the house for the day cause the Parents are overprotective and she's going to have to make an excuse that sounds good.I'll let you know what happens. ;) 


wow...we don't have motels by the hour where I come from! :o  Besides, Howard..I thought the problem was that she wanted to wait until marriage to lose her virginity..not because you guys don't have privacy? ???  Don't ya think that would be way tacky to take her to a slummy joint like that? ::)

wow...we don't have motels by the hour where I come from! :o   Besides, Howard..I thought the problem was that she wanted to wait until marriage to lose her virginity..not because you guys don't have privacy? ???   Don't ya think that would be way tacky to take her to a slummy joint like that? ::)



Well Erin,I don't want to wait till marriage.It's much too long.I understand how she feels but wouldn't it be better to lose your virginity now cause what would happen if we break up and she doesn't want to get married?I'm just sick and tired of parents coming home and a boyfriend/girlfriend wants to make out and it doesn't feel intimate sometimes.We both live at home with parents and I guess we both have to live by their rules so they say.

women love to be taken to motels where you pay by the hour.


4 hours just isn't enough time to fool around.

Well Erin,I don't want to wait till marriage.It's much too long.I understand how she feels but wouldn't it be better to lose your virginity now cause what would happen if we break up and she doesn't want to get married?I'm just sick and tired of parents coming home and a boyfriend/girlfriend wants to make out and it doesn't feel intimate sometimes.We both live at home with parents and I guess we both have to live by their rules so they say.


Do you have a car? Sometimes the car is a nice place to make out and stuff (from popular tradition of teens, lol). Or go to a quiet place in upstate New York. Taking her to a motel would make her NOT want to lose her virginity. It would really throw her back, as she would feel cheapened by it. If you're gonna lose your virginity to her, at least make it the Plaza hotel and go ALL out - make it worthy - lol. But don't go into Bates Pay By the Hour To Get Your Kicks Motel and end up regretting it  ;D

Why does setting matter? 

If there is chemistry you can "set the mood" anywhere.  You just need some good tunes, candles, incense...

Actually, that brings me to my one contribution about all this...

A lot of people here have offered you some good advice. Here's the thing: you should consider, you should see what makes sense to you, you should maybe even integrate some of it into your moves, whatever, but...

When you're out there spittin' game, make sure it's your game. Don't load yourself up with so much technique etc. that you lose yourself in the process. If the woman is perceptive (and when it comes to guys, so many of them seem to be) she'll figure out fairly quickly if you've put up some kinda facade. Make sure that, whatever you're doing, it's still you coming through and not just an image, because, trust me, when you find someone who likes you for you and not for something more superficial, it will be one of the most rewarding times of your life.

That is all. Whatever you do, best of luck.

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That's a really cool post and great advice.


If there is chemistry you can "set the mood" anywhere.  You just need some good tunes, candles, incense...

Alex   :) :)  I love what you said there dude and I agree with you - if the chemistry is totally right between you and her then you don't even need the accoutrements, they're merely added extras.

Do you have a car? Sometimes the car is a nice place to make out and stuff (from popular tradition of teens, lol). Or go to a quiet place in upstate New York. Taking her to a motel would make her NOT want to lose her virginity. It would really throw her back, as she would feel cheapened by it. If you're gonna lose your virginity to her, at least make it the Plaza hotel and go ALL out - make it worthy - lol. But don't go into Bates Pay By the Hour To Get Your Kicks Motel and end up regretting it  ;D



that's a good idea there, Krissy....ya know, maybe she would like it if Howard thought of a creative place/way to set the mood? ??? ;)

that's a good idea there, Krissy....ya know, maybe she would like it if Howard thought of a creative place/way to set the mood? ??? ;)


I'm tellin' ya, good tunes, candles, some incense..

Perfect ambience=

Rainy, windy spring day.  Open the windows, turn off the lights, put out some candles, and light some Nag Champa incense.  Top it off with good music.

Black Magic Woman by Santana

Rainy Day Dream Away by Jimi Hendrix

Riders On The Storm by The Doors

In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed by The Allman Brothers Band

Lay Lady Lay by Bob Dylan

Those are all good tunes for setting a nice mood, IMO.

Snacks are good too.  Club crackers, cheese, oysters(you can get them in jars), and some Perrier water maybe..

Another good song..

Time Of The Season - The Zombies(wasn't that the name of the band who did it?)

And I forgot dessert!  Strawberries and whipped cream..

..

I honestly don't understand what it truely takes.

My best friend who lives in Dallas picks up chicks effortlessly.  He's just so good.. and I suck so badly.  I can't figure out how he does it.

Then again, cooking is natural to me.  And some people can't boil water.

I honestly don't understand what it truely takes.

My best friend who lives in Dallas picks up chicks effortlessly.  He's just so good.. and I suck so badly.  I can't figure out how he does it.

Then again, cooking is natural to me.  And some people can't boil water.



women like men who can cook well! Nothing better than a nice dinner cooked by the man...a very nice touch! ;)

women like men who can cook well! Nothing better than a nice dinner cooked by the man...a very nice touch! ;)


They also like neat people.. Act gay, that works too... it's true!

Try it.

Not that I'd know...  ::)

They also like neat people.. Act gay, that works too... it's true!

Try it.

Not that I'd know...  ::)



yep, I have known quite a few guys that truly were gay, and let me tell you...the ladies loved them just as much! ;)

yep, I have known quite a few guys that truly were gay, and let me tell you...the ladies loved them just as much! ;)


Ah, what an ironic twist of life!

Ah, what an ironic twist of life!


HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ah, what an ironic twist of life!



LOL!  I remember when I was in high school and there would be this guy that all the girls would LOVE...and I would be totally like, "OMG, he's so gay"...and then years later I would hear that he definitely was gay! ;D

I benched 180 today..

I think I'll volunteer at the shelter some more this coming week..

Then I got a gig with the band coming up too...

So busy! :D

They also like neat people.. Act gay, that works too... it's true!

Try it.

Not that I'd know...  ::)
dom you doofus, that almost made me choke on my diet coke  ;D  ;D
dammit LOL  acting gay will only get him more conversation and that's it.

..


::) a few spliffs too?? ... c-o-o-l  man  ::)

::) a few spliffs too?? ... c-o-o-l  man  ::)


Eh?

My best friend who lives in Dallas picks up chicks effortlessly.  He's just so good.. and I suck so badly.  I can't figure out how he does it.
If he's truly your friend, then ask him for some pointers.  Not only that, but next time he's out hustling chicks, observe him. Study his body language and his attitude, and how the girls interact with him. It can be quite fascinating if you look at it that way.

Do you have a car? Sometimes the car is a nice place to make out and stuff (from popular tradition of teens, lol). Or go to a quiet place in upstate New York. Taking her to a motel would make her NOT want to lose her virginity. It would really throw her back, as she would feel cheapened by it. If you're gonna lose your virginity to her, at least make it the Plaza hotel and go ALL out - make it worthy - lol. But don't go into Bates Pay By the Hour To Get Your Kicks Motel and end up regretting it  ;D



No,I don't drive.I take public transportation.I changed my mind just not to get her anxious but I'm not going to think about a motel right now.Let me worry about my job and other things.I just have too much sex on my brain. ;D

that's a good idea there, Krissy....ya know, maybe she would like it if Howard thought of a creative place/way to set the mood? ??? ;)


What do you mean a creative place? She likes making out in private so I don't know where or how. ???

You were asleep.. I was lonely...  ;)



::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Okay then.....

(goes and checks)

No STDs, whew!

:D :D :D :D :D

You know we have to get some. ;)



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I benched 180 today..

I think I'll volunteer at the shelter some more this coming week..

Then I got a gig with the band coming up too...

So busy! :D


180, I knew you could manage at least that.. like I said. If a 10 year old girl could do 135..

180, I knew you could manage at least that.. like I said. If a 10 year old girl could do 135..


Err, I was kidding man.

Err, I was kidding man.




Ooohh...

Ooohh...


About benching 180.  I can only bench 100.  I wasn't kidding about saying I only benched 100..

Always try something erotic like what I did on Sunday where I put a Hershey's Chocolate Caramel Kiss on her belly button,sucked it right out and left a trail of caramel to lick off.Women always love to try something different. ;) O0

Always try something erotic like what I did on Sunday where I put a Hershey's Chocolate Caramel Kiss on her belly button,sucked it right out and left a trail of caramel to lick off.Women always love to try something different. ;) O0



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Yyyyeah, I think he might want to master the act of talking to a girl first, Howard.

Always try something erotic like what I did on Sunday where I put a Hershey's Chocolate Caramel Kiss on her belly button,sucked it right out and left a trail of caramel to lick off.Women always love to try something different. ;) O0


Remember Howard, she'll really like it if you spit the caramel in her eye.

About benching 180.  I can only bench 100.  I wasn't kidding about saying I only benched 100..


Alex 100 is still pretty good going  :)

...


Yyyyeah, I think he might want to master the act of talking to a girl first, Howard.


;D

Its okay, he is just trying to help.  When I have a girlfriend someday, I'll try that Howard. ;D ;)

Alex 100 is still pretty good going  :)


Thanks. 8)

The approach is the hard part.  Asking a woman out seems really daunting to me.  I mean, it was difficult enough in High School. But it seems even more hard to do out in the "real world".

...


Yyyyeah, I think he might want to master the act of talking to a girl first, Howard.



I did that MD.

Remember Howard, she'll really like it if you spit the caramel in her eye.


Why would I want to spit the caramel in her eye for?
Spit it in her mouth to let her taste the creamy goodness. ;D ;)

;D

Its okay, he is just trying to help.  When I have a girlfriend someday, I'll try that Howard. ;D ;)



Pick up her blouse first. ;)

Pick up her blouse first. ;)


Thanks for the tip. ;D

No offense Howard, but how come every post always winds up being about you sex life...or lack of? 

I did that MD.


..Eh?!

Er, nevermind...



No offense Howard, but how come every post always winds up being about you sex life...or lack of? 




Because that's.. just Howard, yo.

Theres a girl who works at the grocery store I'd like to ask out.

Theres a girl who works at the grocery store I'd like to ask out.


Spit caramel in her eye, that'll show her you're tough and take no shiit.

Then find a quiet corner and take a leak there, that'll show her you are child like and free.

Spit caramel in her eye, that'll show her you're tough and take no shiit.

Then find a quiet corner and take a leak there, that'll show her you are child like and free.


lol

I think I'll try something else.

So...


I wish I could figure out a good way to ask this girl out or something.

Unfortunately, I don't know her or have spoken to her.  I go in the grocery store where she works a lot, probably 3 or 4 times a week on average.  Shes always there.  But she works in the cubicle upfront answering the phone and doing paperwork, so she doesn't interact with customers really.

I don't even know if she's ever noticed me.

So...


I wish I could figure out a good way to ask this girl out or something.

Unfortunately, I don't know her or have spoken to her.  I go in the grocery store where she works a lot, probably 3 or 4 times a week on average.  Shes always there.  But she works in the cubicle upfront answering the phone and doing paperwork, so she doesn't interact with customers really.

I don't even know if she's ever noticed me.


.. You make me want to throttle a child dude.

There is only one way you can do this I'm afraid.. and I know you have low confidence, but the ONLY GODDAM WAY to improve your confidence is to at least try. You are at the moment at the bottom rung on the ladder, the only way is up ("baby" - remember that song?).

I will script this for you and if you follow it you are in with a shot.

"Hi, how's it going?"
HER LINE'S START NOW AND ARE IN SINGLE MARKS!'Oh, Ok'
"Good, well, I was just wondering if you might not be too busy one night this week?"
'Oh right..'
"Yeah, I was just thinking, ya know, if you might want to go out and do something?"

Ok.. this is so simple even a child could do it.. I don't think you're ready for anything more complex yet.
If she agrees, you suggest things you could do.
I'd keep with simple stuff like dinner and a movie, it's old, but it works.
Then you slip her a Royhpie and nail her in an uncomfortable place.

.. You make me want to throttle a child dude.

There is only one way you can do this I'm afraid.. and I know you have low confidence, but the ONLY GODDAM WAY to improve your confidence is to at least try. You are at the moment at the bottom rung on the ladder, the only way is up ("baby" - remember that song?).

I will script this for you and if you follow it you are in with a shot.

"Hi, how's it going?"
HER LINE'S START NOW AND ARE IN SINGLE MARKS!'Oh, Ok'
"Good, well, I was just wondering if you might not be too busy one night this week?"
'Oh right..'
"Yeah, I was just thinking, ya know, if you might want to go out and do something?"

Ok.. this is so simple even a child could do it.. I don't think you're ready for anything more complex yet.
If she agrees, you suggest things you could do.
I'd keep with simple stuff like dinner and a movie, it's old, but it works.
Then you slip her a Royhpie and nail her in an uncomfortable place.
Shep!!! I just used your script and it truly works  dude, I went up to this chick I been "preying", I mean checking out and made my move and she went for it, I was a little shaky at first but when she said sure, she'd like to, I was enthralled.  The fact that this chick is my wife doesn't matter does it?  ::) 

.. You make me want to throttle a child dude.

There is only one way you can do this I'm afraid.. and I know you have low confidence, but the ONLY GODDAM WAY to improve your confidence is to at least try. You are at the moment at the bottom rung on the ladder, the only way is up ("baby" - remember that song?).

I will script this for you and if you follow it you are in with a shot.

"Hi, how's it going?"
HER LINE'S START NOW AND ARE IN SINGLE MARKS!'Oh, Ok'
"Good, well, I was just wondering if you might not be too busy one night this week?"
'Oh right..'
"Yeah, I was just thinking, ya know, if you might want to go out and do something?"

Ok.. this is so simple even a child could do it.. I don't think you're ready for anything more complex yet.
If she agrees, you suggest things you could do.
I'd keep with simple stuff like dinner and a movie, it's old, but it works.
Then you slip her a Royhpie and nail her in an uncomfortable place.
This is all sound advice, all except for the very last line. Instead of slipping her a roofie, you instead slip her some clomipramine and start droning on about power tools...

.. You make me want to throttle a child dude.

There is only one way you can do this I'm afraid.. and I know you have low confidence, but the ONLY GODDAM WAY to improve your confidence is to at least try. You are at the moment at the bottom rung on the ladder, the only way is up ("baby" - remember that song?).

Ok.. this is so simple even a child could do it.. I don't think you're ready for anything more complex yet.



Its just not easy for a ballsy person like yourself to understand. >:(

Its not a "confidence" thing.  I like who I am.  It is a thing of I get NERVOUS.  Extremely nervous..

Look.  I just can't do it.  I just can't go up to a chic and talk to her like that.  If that makes me less of a man- whatever.

Its just not easy for a ballsy person like yourself to understand. >:(

Its not a "confidence" thing.  I like who I am.  It is a thing of I get NERVOUS.  Extremely nervous..

Look.  I just can't do it.  I just can't go up to a chic and talk to her like that.  If that makes me less of a man- whatever.
It doesn't make you less at all. It ain't easy, fact! even for seasoned veterans.  you'll get the hang of it. just don't fret and put pressure on yourself. you're gonna be ok at this one day.  8)

Its just not easy for a ballsy person like yourself to understand. >:(

Its not a "confidence" thing.  I like who I am.  It is a thing of I get NERVOUS.  Extremely nervous..

Look.  I just can't do it.  I just can't go up to a chic and talk to her like that.  If that makes me less of a man- whatever.


So you take it even slower.  One day go into the store and just say hi to her as you pass by.  Keep it at that level for a few times. (perhaps just catch her eye and smile the first time if you can't manage to speak).  Then she will start to recognise you.  Then you can try and ask her out.  Try and sound positive when you do it.  Although you think Shpe' script sounds 'ballsy' I think it still sounds a little apologetic and gives her too much of a chance to say 'no'

No offense Howard, but how come every post always winds up being about you sex life...or lack of? 


I don't know.I have nothing else to talk about.I just have too much time on my hands. ;D

Thanks for the tip. ;D


You're Welcome. O0

Spit caramel in her eye, that'll show her you're tough and take no shiit.

Then find a quiet corner and take a leak there, that'll show her you are child like and free.


It works.  But I prefer someone pee around me to mark their territory.

Theres a girl who works at the grocery store I'd like to ask out.


Just be pleasant and make happy smiley eye contact with her and see what her reaction is to you?

but don't  grab her blouse!   ;D (joke)

Anyone wanna help out here with more tips?

Although you think Shpe' script sounds 'ballsy' I think it still sounds a little apologetic and gives her too much of a chance to say 'no'


I'd agree with that.

Dude, if you wanna know what I'd say.

Well first, I wouldn't need to say anything.. just walk past, give her The Eye and keep walking.. soon I'd have her attatched to the back of my leg.

But seriously, yo.

If you are that nervous you have to be careful.
Don't be just friendly, because then you become the worst possible thing 'A friend'. All the women I know I'm occasionally awful to.. that way they don't think of me as a good enough friend so's that we can't screw.
Thus, you have to tread the thin line.
Be nice, but not too nice.

I'd suggest flowers with the right and a backhand with the left.

I'd agree with that.

Dude, if you wanna know what I'd say.

Well first, I wouldn't need to say anything.. just walk past, give her The Eye and keep walking.. soon I'd have her attatched to the back of my leg.

But seriously, yo.

If you are that nervous you have to be careful.
Don't be just friendly, because then you become the worst possible thing 'A friend'. All the women I know I'm occasionally awful to.. that way they don't think of me as a good enough friend so's that we can't screw.
Thus, you have to tread the thin line.
Be nice, but not too nice.

I'd suggest flowers with the right and a backhand with the left.

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You really know how to treat a woman huh!!   ;D ;D

I don't know if there's any help when it comes to approaching a woman. I think some guys just do it all wrong. There's too much excitement in it for them. Just relax. Women just need someone who's laid back and not going to jump all over them. We get tired of guys deeming us that way, so we'd just like someone who can see us as an equal.

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You really know how to treat a woman huh!!  ;D ;D


None have ever complained... or.. said much else..

It works.  But I prefer someone pee around me to mark their territory.



Oh so you like a golden shower? :o :P

I don't know if there's any help when it comes to approaching a woman. I think some guys just do it all wrong. There's too much excitement in it for them. Just relax. Women just need someone who's laid back and not going to jump all over them. We get tired of guys deeming us that way, so we'd just like someone who can see us as an equal.


Well how can it not be exciting? ;D

Well how can it not be exciting? ;D


It's exciting, yes, but some guys are so excited that they come off as little boys who have just eaten a ton of candy and are sweating profusely and TRY TOO HARD!

Just be pleasant and make happy smiley eye contact with her and see what her reaction is to you?

but don't  grab her blouse!   ;D (joke)

Anyone wanna help out here with more tips?



Then you can go to the fruit section and grab your big banana and her ripe melons.  ;D

Then you can go to the fruit section and grab your big banana and her ripe melons.  ;D


Howard, I don't know how you end up tickling my funny bone, but you sure got me this time!  ;D

Howard, I don't know how you end up tickling my funny bone, but you sure got me this time!   ;D



Well,I'm glad I did. ;)