I always thought Wallis Simpson pretty much had control of Edward.  She wasn't exactly royal material either.  If I'm correct she came from an old Maryland family and they were Catholic.  I think the pro-Nazi sympathies are a bit overblown.  I think he meet with Hitler once and that was before re realized exactly what was going on.  Has anyone been to Frogmore? 
He was to be the Monarch of Great Britain if Hitler had been successful with his war campaign.

He was to be the Monarch of Great Britain if Hitler had been successful with his war campaign.


Hitler would have forced King George out.  I have to wonder how much Edward knew about what the Nazis were putting people through?  Any decent person knowing that would never side with him unless forced.

The word of the day...Sovereignty
   1.  Supremacy of authority or rule as exercised by a sovereign or sovereign state.
   2. Royal rank, authority, or power.
   3. Complete independence and self-government.
   4. A territory existing as an independent state.



Thirteen pieces of a snake
became in the greatest world's  state.


I don't want to flush anyone
as I say we have a blast of rage
about the colony of Gibraltar. ::)



I know what my country is like.
Anyway it's so hard to find
a  sovereign  sober of mind
Hence a crown I really dislike. 8-P

Maybe I'm  the oddest of men, who knows  ::)

  Any decent person knowing that would never side with him unless forced.



My dear Reynolds1863, you should know how many few souls wearing  crowns know the meaning of decency.

Did you know that our magnificient current king snuck his crown over his father, just from the dictator's hand ?

I always thought Wallis Simpson pretty much had control of Edward.  She wasn't exactly royal material either.  If I'm correct she came from an old Maryland family and they were Catholic.  I think the pro-Nazi sympathies are a bit overblown.  I think he meet with Hitler once and that was before re realized exactly what was going on.  Has anyone been to Frogmore? 

Some interesting facts about her.On December 11, 1936, Edward VIII of Great Britain made his now famous abdication speech, saying he could no longer continue to fulfill his duties “without the woman I love.” From then on, the story of Edward VIII and Wallis Warfield Simpson passed into the history books as the love story of the century. In the seventy one years, tons of books have been written about the couple, including their own memoirs. Even today she provokes a strong reaction when you talk about her. What is it about this story and this couple that has kept us fascinated for so many decades?

This was the biggest scandal ever to hit the royal family of England. Bigger than the Prince and Princess of Wale’s divorce. This was bigger than “Squidgy-gate,” or even the infamous “I want to be your tampon,” recording between Prince Charles and the former Camilla Parker-Bowles. Heck it was even bigger than Princess Margaret and her ill-fated love for Group Captain Peter Townsend, her love affair with the gardener, and her divorce from Lord Snowden.

Unlike the Duchess of Cornwall, Wallis Warfield didn’t come from an aristocratic background. She had no historical connections to the Royal Family, her great-great grandmother wasn’t the mistress of Edward VII the way Camilla’s was. Wallis wasn’t even particularly beautiful but she had what the French call ‘je ne sais quois.” Somehow she managed to captivate the future King of England with her irreverence and domineering manner enough that, like his great nephew with Camilla, he felt that he couldn’t live without her.

She was born Bessie Wallis Warfield in either June 1895 or 1896 in Pennsylvania. There is speculation that she was born before her parents were married. In any event, her father died shortly after she was born. For the first few years of her life, she was raised in Baltimore, Maryland, in modest circumstances, having to depend on the charity of her wealthy uncle, Solomon Warfield.

Wallis married her first husband, Earl Winfield Spencer, a naval pilot, at the age of 20, in 1916 after a whirlwind courtship. She soon learned that the man she married was an alcoholic with a reckless streak. They frequently separated and got back together, and Wallis was frequently unfaithful, having affairs with a Argentine diplomat, and Mussolini’s future son-in-law.

By the time, Wallis and her first husband split for good, she had already made the acquaintance of husband number two, Ernest Aldrich Simpson. Simpson was half-English and half-American, mild-mannered and easy going. He divorced his first wife to marry Wallis. They were married on 21 July 1928, at the Chelsea Registry office. Through a friend, Wallis met Thelma Furness, who in turn introduced Wallis to the Prince of Wales. By the time Wallis met the Prince, Ernest was beginning to suffer financial difficulties. The Simpson’s were living well above their means.

"I really feel so tired of fighting the world all alone and with no money," she once wrote to her mother.

So what was the big deal about? Why couldn't Edward marry her? Well, Wallis Warfield Simpson was not married when the Prince of Wales made her acquaintance, but she’d already been married and divorced once already. Divorce was still a taboo; divorced subjects including members of the Queen’s own family for years were not accepted at court. Although there was nothing constitutionally to stop the King from marrying her apart from that whole Defender of the Faith thing as head of the Church of England, Edward also knew that marrying Wallis would topple the government. Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin had already made clear his views on the marriage. He refused to even countenance a morganatic marriage, whereby the King could marry Wallis, but she wouldn't be Queen.

What Edward did next was extraordinary in English history. While Richard II was forced to abdicate, King Charles I was beheaded, and James II and tossed out of England, no King in English history had voluntarily given up their throne. It’s a wonder that hell didn’t freeze over or the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse didn’t come riding up Pall Mall to the doors of Buckingham Palace.

In America, we think of this as a great love story. Heck the King of England fell in love with one of our own. In England, not so much, although given the pro-Nazi sympathies of Edward VIII, Wallis Simpson pretty much did England a favor. Frankly she should probably have gotten a medal. Instead she was denied the title of HRH, something that even Fergie received when she was a member of the Royal Family, and she didn’t dress nearly as well as The Duchess of Windsor. Edward never forgave his brother for not allowing Wallis to have the HRH.

Although Wallis was no beauty, she had charisma, and a belief in her own attractiveness. She knew how to dress to make the most of what she was given. And she apparently treated the Prince of Wales, well not like a Prince. On their first meeting, the King asked her some trivia about being American, to which Wallis replied that she’d been asked the same thing by every English person she’d met. She’d hoped for more originality from the Prince of Wales. Snap! Girlfriend wasn’t cowed by the August presence of the Prince of Wales. Wallis did her homework, when Thelma Furness asked Wallis to look after Edward while she traveled, she had no idea that Wallis would end up replacing her. What do you want to bet that she pumped ole Thelma for whatever information she could about her lover? And then did her one better?

Edward VIII had been a man starved of a mother’s affection. His own mother, Queen Mary, was a pretty cold fish, who left Edward in the hands of a pretty sadistic nanny. His youngest brother who was mentally handicapped was shunted aside, and treated as if he didn’t exist. He was completely scared of his father George V, who boasted that he’d been afraid of his father, and he was damn sure that his children would be afraid of him. All of Edward’s affairs had been with older married women.

There were rumors that Wallis had worked in a brothel in China while her first husband had been stationed in the Far East, where she learned Ancient Asian sex secrets that she used to bind Edward to her. Another rumor was that she was a hermaphrodite, and that Edward was attracted to her for her manly qualities.

The last paragraph is interesting,because when Missy quick looked at the pic (the 2nd one down) she thought it was a guy in drag ;D

My dear Reynolds1863, you should know how many few souls wearing  crowns know the meaning of decency.

Did you know that our magnificient current king snuck his crown over his father, just from the dictator's hand ?



I was so hoping at least one would know the meaning.

Took the crown from his Father.  I'm to guess the father was still in good health.  

I was so hoping at least one would know the meaning.

Took the crown from his Father.  I'm to guess the father was still in good health.  

Francisco Franco was in office before him, so it went from his grandfatherAlfonso XIII of Spain to the dictator to him and passed over his father from what I can figure out.

There was something about psychology that Wallis just knew.  Thelma was much better looking and more refine than Wallis.  Thelma later said if she had the heart to do the Edward what Wallis did she could have.  If you read about Wallis's later life she pretty much relied on the mercy/pity of the royal family.

I was so hoping at least one would know the meaning.

Took the crown from his Father.  I'm to guess the father was still in good health.  

It is well known Juan Carlos chose the power before the loyalty.
He was second in line to the throne. His father had no other choice than yield. And if he got ill was from then on...too much walking alone with Johnny.
He was enhanced in spite of  succesion's laws  by the grace of Franco and God.

That's what everybody knows by here and looks at other side.  :-X

It is well known Juan Carlos chose the power before the loyalty.
He was second in line to the throne. His father had no other choice than yield. And if he got ill was from then on...too much walking alone with Johnny.
He was enhanced in spite of  succesion's laws  by the grace of Franco and God.

That's what everybody knows by here and looks at other side.  :-X


Didn't Juan Carlos accidentally kill someone?

To me he always seem a bit of a brut.  I'm surprised he able to deal with the fact that he's only a figure head. 

My dear Reynolds1863, you should know how many few souls wearing  crowns know the meaning of decency.

Did you know that our magnificient current king snuck his crown over his father, just from the dictator's hand ?



Good heavens! I never would have thought that about Spain, although from the carryings on of every other monarch (?) it's not surprising.

Long Live The King!

Long Live The King!
Which king?

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adj.

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The co-person of the day... Jeff Buckley
Jeffrey Scott Buckley (November 17, 1966 – May 29, 1997), raised as Scotty Moorhead, was an American singer-songwriter and guitarist. He was the son of Tim Buckley, also a musician. Buckley gained popularity in the early 1990s by playing cover songs at venues in Manhattan's East Village, such as Sin-é, and he gradually focused more on his own material. After much interest from record labels he signed with Columbia and, after recruiting a band, recorded what would be his only studio album, Grace.

Over the following two years, the band toured widely to promote the album, including concerts in the U.S., Europe, Japan and Australia. In 1997, he stopped touring and moved to Memphis, Tennessee, to experiment with new material for a second album, recording many four-track demos and completing his third recording session for his new album with his band, with Tom Verlaine as producer. While awaiting the arrival of his band from New York, he drowned during an evening swim in the Wolf River. His body was found on June 4, 1997.
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