Here's a game that might be kind of interesting. Sometimes, it's really weird to think how drastically a decade's culture changes from the beginning to end, to the point where it seems crazy to even categorize them under the same chronological umbrella. For example, 1960 was still full of rockabilly conservatism, while 1969 was all grizzled, free love, flower power; 1990 was still dominated by big hair and glam bands, while 1999 had the Internet Boom and Britney Spears. The idea of this thread is to take two heavily contrasting things, whether they're songs, movies, television shows, or anything else, that technically happen to be part of the same decade, which really make you think "boy do things change fast!" In some cases, it may seem like the culture is not just 10 years apart, but practically 20! The cache is that the song has to be at least fairly of its time, so something like "24k Magic" sounding like it belongs in 1983 instead of 2016 doesn't count.

I'll start with some songs that represent polar opposite cultural eras within the same respective decades.

Both from the 1960s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_ctJX8qmfM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFj0rxyNCtc

Both from the 1970s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0xpkk0yaQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-T2PawPyf0

Both from the 1980s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7ONp-GC7vM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB54dZkzZOY

Both from the 1990s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCZuYS-9qaw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNShSkGUEq0

Both from the 2000s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnJUMBdjCuY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNqIUb2RdGQ

1990.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b5/b6/b6/b5b6b673e660fc8d907c909136d0fd12--mariah-carey-age-good-hair.jpg

1999.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/25/cf/24/25cf2485e987d80919159467c6970a30.jpg

Great thread idea, #Infinity! Here are a few of my examples;

1990s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjyZKfdwlng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIDWgqDBNXA


2000s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlCC1GOwFw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feA64wXhbjo

Here are two songs which represent vastly contrasting eras of the 2000s; "One Step Closer" by Linkin Park and "Shooting Stars" by Bag Raiders. It's incredible to think really that the Nu-Metal, Y2K aesthetic occurred within the same decade as the futuristic, electropop era which largely defined most of the latter part of the decade.

R&B changed a lot in the 1980s.

1980:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skfjEVgwskQ

1989:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lECDTb2G1hY

The 1960s kinda speak for themselves as far as radical changes go

1960 rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXvKAWiU_cQ

1969 rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJIqnXTqg8I

Both from the 1970s:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/WillyWonkaMoviePoster.jpg
http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/MOV_9f7a2fc4_b.jpg
From whimsical musicals with guys in bowties and top hats to dark, gritty sci-fi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0nUWQV3ZDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvqgb1D6Opw
From a "Sugar Sugar"-inspired cheesefest with 50s-style lyrics to something that epitomizes 1980s music before that decade even started.

Both from the 1990s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY84MRnxVzo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFcv5Ma8u8k
From a rapper dressed like Run-D.M.C. using the term butt instead of a** over a similarly 80s-style beat to a slickly produced rap featuring Enimem.

Both from the 2000s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-tNT6vGtG4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7ArUgxtlJs
From a piano-driven eurodance-house song that sounds like it was made in 1997 to one of the major tracks that helped popularize dubstep.

#Infinity..."You Owe Me" and "Forgot About Dre" were both released in 2000...so those don't count for 1999.

These 2 superhero movies:

Superman II (1980)
http://derek237.com/images/superman2poster.jpg

Batman (1989)
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/4/47/Batman_1989_-_Poster_%28fan_art%29.jpg

#Infinity..."You Owe Me" and "Forgot About Dre" were both released in 2000...so those don't count for 1999.


Actually, both appeared on albums released in 1999, so plenty of people still heard them months before they were released as singles. The same logic applies to Lady Gaga's "Alejandro" being a 2010 hit but from an EP released in 2009 and already massive upon its release.

Actually, both appeared on albums released in 1999, so plenty of people still heard them months before they were released as singles. The same logic applies to Lady Gaga's "Alejandro" being a 2010 hit but from an EP released in 2009 and already massive upon its release.

That doesn't matter...both songs (singles) were released in 2000.

You should have just used "Hate Me Now" for Nas and "My Name Is" for Eminem.

That doesn't matter...both songs (singles) were released in 2000.

Why doesn't it matter? Shouldn't the fact that both songs were made and technically released in the same decade as something as mid-80s-sounding as "Cradle of Love" still carry a lot of weight? Both The Chronic 2001 and Nastradamus were hot sellers when they first hit stores, so it's absolutely nothing like with sleeper hit albums like New Miserable experience, Songs About Jane, or Yourself or Someone Like You.

You should have just used "Hate Me Now" for Nas and "My Name Is" for Eminem.


Neither of those songs scream 2000s the way "You Owe Me" and "Forgot About D.R.E." do. "Hate Me Now" is typical late 90s shiny suit rap, complete with a guest spot by Puff Daddy. "My Name Is" may be lyrically groundbreaking, but it still has a beat that sounds quintessentially 90s - 1995/1996-ish, even. By comparison, "You Owe Me" feels like it was produced in 2004 or 2005, making even the rest of Timbaland's early productions sound retro by comparison. "Forgot About D.R.E." also sounds like something that would've still been current well into the 2000s, unlike "My Name Is."

Nice topic #Infinity.

1960s:
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1970s:
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1980s:
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1990s:
I would post another hair metal song from the 90s, but Cherry Pie (already posted) was easily the most iconic.
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2000s:
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Why doesn't it matter? Shouldn't the fact that both songs were made and technically released in the same decade as something as mid-80s-sounding as "Cradle of Love" still carry a lot of weight? Both The Chronic 2001 and Nastradamus were hot sellers when they first hit stores, so it's absolutely nothing like with sleeper hit albums like New Miserable experience, Songs About Jane, or Yourself or Someone Like You.
What? So when I said that some of the surf rock songs from 1963 were recorded in 1962..you basically said that it doesn't matter. The songs were released in 2000...they don't count PERIOD.


Neither of those songs scream 2000s the way "You Owe Me" and "Forgot About D.R.E." do. "Hate Me Now" is typical late 90s shiny suit rap, complete with a guest spot by Puff Daddy. "My Name Is" may be lyrically groundbreaking, but it still has a beat that sounds quintessentially 90s - 1995/1996-ish, even. By comparison, "You Owe Me" feels like it was produced in 2004 or 2005, making even the rest of Timbaland's early productions sound retro by comparison. "Forgot About D.R.E." also sounds like something that would've still been current well into the 2000s, unlike "My Name Is."

So what? I thought the point of this thread was to show the difference between things from the beginning and end of a decade. "Hate Me Now" and "My Name Is" were both released in 1999 and are much different from rap music from 1990-1995. I don't get what you're trying to do. Beats me.

What? So when I said that some of the surf rock songs from 1963 were recorded in 1962..you basically said that it doesn't matter. The songs were released in 2000...they don't count PERIOD.

That's a very different case because surf rock in 1962 was an underground movement with little to no exposure outside of local California music circuits. I don't think Dick Dale's Surfer's Choice would've made any impact on the Billboard 200 in 1962. Conversely, both The Chronic 2001 and Nastradamus debuted within the top 10, the former landing at #2. Eminem, Dr. Dre, and Nas were already established as rap superstars by late 1999. Therefore, plenty of people heard "Forgot About D.R.E." and "You Owe Me" in 1999. The way you stress your own personal rules over this matter makes it seem as though the songs I listed were remixes or rerecordings, but I assure you they were both filling sound-systems with 2000s vibes while it was still the 1990s.

So what? I thought the point of this thread was to show the difference between things from the beginning and end of a decade. "Hate Me Now" and "My Name Is" were both released in 1999 and are much different from rap music from 1990-1995. I don't get what you're trying to do. Beats me.


Uh yeah, both of those songs still distinctly represent how differently music was produced and released on albums at the end of the 90s compared to the beginning. And for the record, I never stated "Hate Me Now" and "My Name Is" sound like they fit in with music from the first half of the 90s. They simply blend in reasonably well within the late 90s. Unlike "You Owe Me," I can't exactly imagine either track sounding modern in the mid-2000s.

That's a very different case because surf rock in 1962 was an underground movement with little to no exposure outside of local California music circuits. I don't think Dick Dale's Surfer's Choice would've made any impact on the Billboard 200 in 1962. Conversely, both The Chronic 2001 and Nastradamus debuted within the top 10, the former landing at #2. Eminem, Dr. Dre, and Nas were already established as rap superstars by late 1999. Therefore, plenty of people heard "Forgot About D.R.E." and "You Owe Me" in 1999. The way you stress your own personal rules over this matter makes it seem as though the songs I listed were remixes or rerecordings, but I assure you they were both filling sound-systems with 2000s vibes while it was still the 1990s.
Are you forgetting that 1962 had "Misirlou" by Dick Dale which is one of the most popular surf rock songs ever. Surf rock was not underground in 1962. Anyways, you just contradicted yourself anyways but whatever. You say whatever to the surf rock songs being recorded but released in another year but not when it comes to the rap songs to mentioned.


Uh yeah, both of those songs still distinctly represent how differently music was produced and released on albums at the end of the 90s compared to the beginning. And for the record, I never stated "Hate Me Now" and "My Name Is" sound like they fit in with music from the first half of the 90s. They simply blend in reasonably well within the late 90s. Unlike "You Owe Me," I can't exactly imagine either track sounding modern in the mid-2000s.

Isn't the point of this thread to show the differences between things that came out in the same decade? You can use "Hate Me Now" and "My Name Is" for that purpose because they were actually released in the 1990s not "You Owe Me" and "Forgot About Dre".

That's like using "Hold On" by Wilson Phillips which was released in 1990 to represent the difference between the late '80s and songs like "Don't You Want Me" by The Human League from the early '80s. Just use a song that was released in the late '80s especially in 1988 and 1989.

Are you forgetting that 1962 had "Misirlou" by Dick Dale which is one of the most popular surf rock songs ever. Surf rock was not underground in 1962. Anyways, you just contradicted yourself anyways but whatever. You say whatever to the surf rock songs being recorded but released in another year but not when it comes to the rap songs to mentioned.

The only reason "Misirlou" is so famous is because it was prominently featured in the 1994 movie Pulp Fiction. It did not chart or anything back when it came out. It's a cut hit, not a representation of what people were actually listening to in 1962.

How am I contradicting myself? It doesn't matter whether a song was immediately released as a single so long as the album it's from is popular right upon its release. This is especially true of somebody like Nas, whose success is muh more contingent with album sales than radio or single airplay. In fact, Nastradamus was already certified Platinum in December 1999.

Isn't the point of this thread to show the differences between things that came out in the same decade? You can use "Hate Me Now" and "My Name Is" for that purpose because they were actually released in the 1990s not "You Owe Me" and "Forgot About Dre".

Again, it matters not when a song was released as a single if, by appearing on a popular album released in 1999, is still essentially from the 1990s. I remember Justin Timberlake's "Rock Your Body" making a huge impact on me when I heard it on Justified in late 2002, even though the song itself wasn't a hit single until summer 2003.

That's like using "Hold On" by Wilson Phillips which was released in 1990 to represent the difference between the late '80s and songs like "Don't You Want Me" by The Human League from the early '80s. Just use a song that was released in the late '80s especially in 1988 and 1989.


Wilson Phillips' debut album was released in 1990, so nobody aside from the people who produced and recorded the track heard it in 1989. "Forgot About D.R.E." and "You Owe Me" were readily available for the world to consume in November 1999 upon their album releases, and consume them the world did, immediately.

The only reason "Misirlou" is so famous is because it was prominently featured in the 1994 movie Pulp Fiction. It did not chart or anything back when it came out. It's a cut hit, not a representation of what people were actually listening to in 1962.

How am I contradicting myself? It doesn't matter whether a song was immediately released as a single so long as the album it's from is popular right upon its release. This is especially true of somebody like Nas, whose success is muh more contingent with album sales than radio or single airplay. In fact, Nastradamus was already certified Platinum in December 1999.

Again, it matters not when a song was released as a single if, by appearing on a popular album released in 1999, is still essentially from the 1990s. I remember Justin Timberlake's "Rock Your Body" making a huge impact on me when I heard it on Justified in late 2002, even though the song itself wasn't a hit single until summer 2003.

Wilson Phillips' debut album was released in 1990, so nobody aside from the people who produced and recorded the track heard it in 1989. "Forgot About D.R.E." and "You Owe Me" were readily available for the world to consume in November 1999 upon their album releases, and consume them the world did, immediately.

OK I see. I'll just count most movies, songs and TV shows that were released in a year starting with 0 as being apart of another decade as long as their was previews or other things about it was shown at the end of the previous decade.

We went from 1990 with Madonna's Vogue to 1999's Candy with Mandy Moore.

The only reason "Misirlou" is so famous is because it was prominently featured in the 1994 movie Pulp Fiction. It did not chart or anything back when it came out. It's a cut hit, not a representation of what people were actually listening to in 1962.

How am I contradicting myself? It doesn't matter whether a song was immediately released as a single so long as the album it's from is popular right upon its release. This is especially true of somebody like Nas, whose success is muh more contingent with album sales than radio or single airplay. In fact, Nastradamus was already certified Platinum in December 1999.



Are you forgetting that 1962 had "Misirlou" by Dick Dale which is one of the most popular surf rock songs ever. Surf rock was not underground in 1962. Anyways, you just contradicted yourself anyways but whatever. You say whatever to the surf rock songs being recorded but released in another year but not when it comes to the rap songs to mentioned.


Are you guys still having this 'surf rock' argument?  ;D

2003: Late 90s things were still relevant, Recess, Gundam Wing, Pokemon with Misty, no YouTube, dial-up was more popular than broadband, Tamagotchi, Hey Arnold, N64, etc.

2005: Late 90s things are mostly gone, Camp Lazlo, Naruto, Pokemon with May, YouTube founded and rising in popularity (11 million users by the end of 2005), broadband more popular than dial up, Club Penguin, Catscratch, Xbox 360, etc.

Are you guys still having this 'surf rock' argument?  ;D

Not really...I just mentioned it to try and prove a point but whatever.

Obama and then Trump ;D  :-X

Male fashion in 1960

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/1a/3d/1e/1a3d1e74c9d0d23570b12a1113714366.jpg

Male fashion in 1969

http://the1965-1969research.weebly.com/uploads/5/1/9/8/51988779/524461496.jpg

2000

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRY239qRbMDjpDloxGOKWJOOYsxnyOsAgaNneR_cQbFSaPwVHEqnA

2009

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwOfFZyhbjAxYijE2e6W0whAJ_dbgyuAHeOabJ4E0K1mNzep33MQ

Here are some video game contrasts...

Both arcade games from the 1980s:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9JUcxoGly3g/hqdefault.jpg
http://kaijupop.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/chase-hq-4.png

Both console games from the 1990s:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cleAsGqvErE/hqdefault.jpg
https://r.mprd.se/media/images/178-Soul_Calibur-8.jpg

Both portable games from the 2000s:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xFYQcekTwAU/hqdefault.jpg
https://img-s2.onedio.com/id-52b57a2498a455d117000087/rev-1/w-500/s-d231816e8eff4de9505e8d9329f717397c5d6014.jpg

This!

1960
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1969
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Here are some video game contrasts...

Both portable games from the 2000s:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xFYQcekTwAU/hqdefault.jpg
https://img-s2.onedio.com/id-52b57a2498a455d117000087/rev-1/w-500/s-d231816e8eff4de9505e8d9329f717397c5d6014.jpg

What is the former game? I'm kind of disappointed at the state of mobile gaming in the late 2000s since the iPhone release and the 2010s because most of them resemble free 2D Flash games that can be played online on desktops.

My take on this thread.
People going from this fashion in the 2010s:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/50/f4/a650f438b4716b16dde7f83be1fba7bd.jpg

To something sort of like this:
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5a/3c/ae/5a3caebede4f3a09fc9ba6ebf8e91100--christian-collins-tumblr-boys.jpg

I noticed also that when Christina Grimmie was covering "Titanium", she was wearing her hair a lot darker and more in an emo style than she did before she passed away. A lot of other girls were like that, or they had their hair dyed with blonde highlights. These days, girls are wearing their hair more in a retro style, died white or otherwise in a non-scene girl style.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/blNqWku7Tyc/maxresdefault.jpg

What is the former game? I'm kind of disappointed at the state of mobile gaming in the late 2000s since the iPhone release and the 2010s because most of them resemble free 2D Flash games that can be played online on desktops.


The former game is The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages, released on Game Boy Color in early 2001. It technically just reuses the graphical style of Link's Awakening, which came out back in 1993 (updated to colour in 1998), but the Oracle games were still released at a time the Game Boy Color was the newest Nintendo handheld, not to mention plenty of sprites in the games were still brand new.

Cellphones-

2000:
http://nokiamuseum.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Nokia-THR600.jpg

2009:
https://static.fnac-static.com/multimedia/Images/PT/NR/32/ed/07/519474/1540-4/tsp20160818094023/Apple-iPhone-3GS-8GB-Preto.jpg

It's crazy how much changed during the 2000s :o!

Cellphones-

2000:
http://nokiamuseum.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Nokia-THR600.jpg

2009:
https://static.fnac-static.com/multimedia/Images/PT/NR/32/ed/07/519474/1540-4/tsp20160818094023/Apple-iPhone-3GS-8GB-Preto.jpg

It's crazy how much changed during the 2000s :o!


I know, it's amazing how things have changed over the past 18 years. :o

These both came out in the 1970s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaMX0Cs5Bc4
This is an extremely 60s-sounding Motown song, yet it went to #1 in late 1970.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmQlBfxh4Us
Contrary to this video's details, this single was actually originally released in 1979. In my opinion, the way it casually integrates synthesizers into its casual production makes it still not seem all that old.

Also both 70s songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlp3wmE4bbI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0YVOIKX0IQ

I suppose anything full-on synthesized just instantly sounds ages away from anything produced in the counterculture era and earlier. The Melanie song seems particularly vintage to me because of its backup choir, a common staple of popular music for decades prior.

Both are 80s songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR2qjvsqNSk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9LkE0vpvk

The former almost feels like a 30s musical number being remixed into a disco track. The latter is hip hop that doesn't feel overtly 80s like Run-D.M.C. or Licensed to Ill-era Beastie Boys.

Both dance songs from the 90s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RckyoHIQKNg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgs9QUtWc3M

The former is still a very 80s-esque S/A/W track, while the latter is trance that still would've sounded fairly recent in the mid-2000s.

Both of these party songs are from the 2000s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkuu0Lwb5EM
This is like the same style as "Whoomp! (There It Is)" from 1993, not to mention its music video is dominated by a wide-angle lens, yet it was still a huge deal all throughout the early 2000s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFG6AoEScVE
It wasn't a single in America until 2010, but it was already a hit in the UK in 2009.

These both came out in the 1970s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaMX0Cs5Bc4
This is an extremely 60s-sounding Motown song, yet it went to #1 in late 1970.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmQlBfxh4Us
Contrary to this video's details, this single was actually originally released in 1979. In my opinion, the way it casually integrates synthesizers into its casual production makes it still not seem all that old.

Tears of a Clown was actually a 1967 song that just happened to get popular in 1970 upon being released as a single for the first time.

Tears of a Clown was actually a 1967 song that just happened to get popular in 1970 upon being released as a single for the first time.


Wow, I wonder what took it so long? Apparently, it was actually recorded in 1966. No wonder it sounded so retro, even for 1970.

Rock in the 60s; the decade started off with the cheesy Rock 'n' Roll and Rockabilly of the 50s and ended with Psychedelic Rock, Experimental Rock, Hard Rock and even early-Heavy Metal.

Rap in the 80s; started off as the dance-oriented, silly Disco Rap and ended with the already defined and blossoming Hardcore Hip Hop and Gangsta Rap.

2000s
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For some reason I find it delightful these two artists shared a decade where they both had a hit at some point, especially since Drake is all over the place this year.

1990s:
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Rather crazy how quickly it went from rap songs that still had plenty of 80s and new jack swing vibes to moody alternative rock & britpop.

2010s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnPB76mjxI&list=PLBE370CFB415B28A9&index=5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes&list=PLgDP5UKLWaCDLY-TOxK6E6TlSWBpcG_VN&index=36
Literally only 2 years between them. HOW.

Blackberry curve 93000 and Iphone X. Blackberry is in a similar position as Myspace. Both were popular in the mainstream 10 years ago, but looked at as just a memory of the past that we make fun of.

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New Kids on the Block, one of the defining acts of the late 80s Teen Pop movement (with Tiffany and Debbie Gibson) were still making hits in the early 90s. Not too long before the second wave of Boy Bands made their debuts.