Please note that this is my opinion: But personally going by historical events, birth rates, cultural differences, etc. This is how I personally view the generations, but if you have a different opinion please feel free to let me know. Let me know if you think this is accurate but to make matters simple I'll use HS Grad classes as guidelines since thats the year you turn 18 and com of age:


HS Class of 1928 - HS Class of 1945: The GI Generation - Born/Grew up during prosperity in the 10's & 20's. They were the first to grow up with automobiles and home appliances. They came of age during a time of crisis in the Great Depression & WWII and were awarded for their heroic efforts. They were also around during the start of Jazz & the Blues and the first major sound movies (think WWII Veterans).

They are about age 88-105 as of today give or take.


HS Class of 1946 - HS Class of 1963: The Silent Generation - Born/Grew up during crisis in the Great Depression & WWII. They were the first to grow up with technology like the radio. They came of age during a time of economic prosperity in the 40's, 50's, & early 60's. They were the inventors of Rock & Roll, were some of the first modern day teenagers, & were the civil rights leaders of the 50's & 60's (think of the characters from the movie Grease along with Elvis Presley, Martin Luther King Jr, Bernie Sanders, Bruce Lee, & Chuck Norris).

They are about age 70-87 as of today give or take.


HS Class of 1964 - HS Class of 1982: The Baby Boom Generation - Born/Grew up post WWII during a time of economic prosperity in the 50's & 60's. They were coddled as kids and were the first to grow up with Saturday Morning cartoons and kid orientated programming like the Mickey Mouse Club & The Flintstones. They were the first to grow up with technology like the Television & Record Players in their homes. They came of age during a time of political turbulence & growing distrust of government, corporations, and the military industrial complex in the 60's & 70's. They were known for 'Sex, Drugs, & Rock n Roll', civil rights & anti war protests, hippies, 'sharing the world with a coke', Motown, Punk, & Disco and they were the pioneers for much of the music in the 80's like New Wave and Metal, the Yuppies of the 1980's, and are now huge political figures (think of Michael Jackson, Bill Clinton, Oprah Winfrey, Bill Gates, Madonna, Hulk Hogan, John Travolta, Tom Hanks, Sylvester Stallone & Billy Joel).

They are about age 51-69 as of today give or take.


HS Class of 1983 - HS Class of 1999: Generation X - Born/Grew up during an era of a stagnated economy in the 70's & early 80's and during the Conservative revolution during the 70's, 80's & early 90's. Many were raised under divorced households and were considered some of the first true 'latchkey kids' and many felt undesired because of this along with other factors. They grew up during a dark age for children's entertainment, most notably Disney which didn't bounce back to success until the very late 80's! This along with 'Child Demon Movies' and rising divorce rates made Gen Xers feel 'lost' at a very young age. Think of the Brat Pack, they were children during the turbulent times of the 70's and the teens of the revolutionary 80's, they all echo the essence of Gen X. They were also the first to grow up with personal computers, video game consoles, cable television, color television, microwaves, Vinly records and Cassetes, & VCRS. They came of age during the mid-late 80's & 90's during the end of the Cold War, during a time of economic prosperity and when technology like CDs, video game consoles like the Sega Genesis and Playstation & the internet was being released to the public. However because of their depressing experiences as kids and teens, they remained cynical for much of their young adulthood and adulthood, which was fueled (in a good way) during their era of music like Metal, Glam Metal, Gangsta Rap, Grunge, & Post Grunge which was made possible with the revolution that was MTV; along with tv shows like Beverly Hills 90210, Saved By the Bell, The Fresh Prince of Bel Air, In Living Color, Beavis and Butthead, FRIENDS, & Boy Meets World to name a few (think of the friends from FRIENDS or celebrities like Kurt Cobain, Tupac Shakur, Biggy Smalls, Ice Cube, Tony Hawk, Jennifer Lopez, Ben Affleck, Leonardo DiCaprio, Jay Z, Jennifer Aniston, Eminem, Mariah Carey, Angelina Jolie, Alicia Silverstone, John Cena, James Rolfe, Ben Stiller, Channing Tatum, Kobe Bryant & Kenan and Kel).

They are about age 34-50 as of today give or take.


HS Class of 2000 - HS Class of 2016: The Millennial Generation - Born/Grew up during an era of economic prosperity and during the Liberal revolution during the late 80's-1990's-early 00's & rise of political correctness during the 90's & 00's. Despite this Millennials grew up during a golden age of children orientated programming in the 90's & early 00's thanks to shows like TMNT, The Ren & Stimpy Show, Rugrats, Batman TAS, X-MEN TAS, Ducktales, Tiny Toon Adventures, Power Rangers, Magic School Bus, Arthur, ZOOM, Recess, The Powerpuff Girls, Pee Wee's Playhouse, Blues Clues, Dragon Ball Z, Pokemon, Spongebob, Dexter's Lab, The Fairly Odd Parents, Ed, Edd, n Eddy & Pinky and the Brain to name a few along with kid orientated blocks like SNICK, Fox Kids, Kids WB, ABC One Saturday Morning, Toonami, & Cartoon Cartoon Fridays. They were the first to grow up with the internet, music players, answering machines, Gameboys, pagers, & cell phones. They came of age during the era of terrorism and many post 2007 during the Great Recession and the stagnate recovery in the 2010's. Despite this, Millennials are still very optimistic about the future. However because we were raised as the 'Trophy Generation' many Millennials may come off as entitled and the music of our generation like Bubblegum pop, party rap, pop punk, electropop & dubstep reflects this especially with the help of the internet and social media sites like YouTube, MySpace, Facebook and eventually Twitter and Instagram; they also were defined by tv shows like Glee, Pretty Little Liars, Girls, Scream Queens, The Big Bang Theory, Laguna Beach, 16 & Pregnant, & Jersey Shore to name a few (think of the cast of Glee or the new show Scream Queens or celebrities like the Olsen Twins, Seth Rogen, Lebron James, Raven Symone, Amanda Bynes, Jennifer Lawrence, Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus, Dakota Fanning, Abigail Breslin, Ariana Grande, Zac Efron, & Drake and Josh).

They are about age 17-33 as of today give or take.


The next generation, Z or like to call them the Homeland Generation is too young to be defined at this moment.

They are roughly under 16/17 at the moment



I would also divide the generations into mini cohorts starting with the Baby Boomers like this:


1946-1952: Older Boomers (main Woodstock cohort)

1953-1957: Core Boomers (main Brady Bunch cohort)

1958-1964: Younger Boomers (main Big Chill cohort)

1965-1969: Older Gen Xers (main Brat Packers cohort)

1970-1976: Core Gen Xers (main Heathers cohort)

1977-1981: Younger Gen Xers (main Clueless cohort)

1982-1986: Older Millennials (main American Pie cohort)

1987-1993: Core Millennials (main Mean Girls cohort)

1994-1998/9: Younger Millennials (main Hunger Games cohort)

And so on

Anyways do you guys agree

Awesome post!

This is how I'd define the generations:

GI Generation:  HS Class of 1929 to HS Class of 1945
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+ Struggled with the Depression
+ World War II Veterans
+ Parents of the Baby Boomers
+ Socially conservative, anti-Communist political views

Silent Generation:  HS Class of 1946 to HS Class of 1963
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+ Idolized Elvis Presley, Marilyn Monroe, Marlon Brando, Frank Sinatra, Audrey Hepburn, and James Dean
+ Did not enlist for World War II, but may have fought in the Korean War or Vietnam War
+ First generation to grow up with comic books and animated shorts and films

Baby Boomer Generation:  HS Class of 1964 to HS Class of 1982
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+ First generation to grow up largely in suburban environments
+ Grew up with Hannah Barbera Cartoons, Howdy Doody, or Mickey Mouse Club
+ Fully embraced Beatlemania
+ Many of these people were hippies in the 60s and early 70s, but now this generation is Fox News' core audience

Generation X:  HS Class of 1983 to HS Class of 1998
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+ The MTV Generation, initially the proponents of new wave in the 80s, later grunge and gangsta rap in the 90s
+ First generation to grow up with significant educational television like Sesame Street, Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, and Schoolhouse Rock, as well as color tv (which made this generation's attachment to MTV possible)
+ First generation to grow up with video games, with more of an emphasis on Atari and arcade cabinets than mascot-driven home consoles
+ Generally a highly casual and fairly rebellious generation, but still not as conservative now as current Boomers.

Millennials:  HS Class of 1999 to HS Class of 2015
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+ Can also be described as the "living room generation," since this generation was surrounded by a plethora of home toy products from a young age, as well as television shows that were much more risqué than anything in the past (i.e., Ren & Stimpy, Family Guy, South Park, etc.).
+ Grew up with home consoles like the NES, SNES, Sega Genesis, Nintendo 64, and GameCube.
+ First generation to really grow up with the Internet, particularly when the Internet was primarily accessed via computer and Internet Explorer still existed.
+ First generation to broadly support LGBT rights, as well as the first to push the current waves of feminism and black civil rights activism.

Generation Z:  HS Class of 2016 to HS Class of 2031?
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+ This generation grew up with things like YouTube shows, iPhone/Android games, social media, and Netflix from a very young age and is thus much more accustomed to processing enormous amounts of information
+ Likely to emerge as the computer software generation, due to the job market's increasing reliance on computer and electronics engineers
+ Support for LGBT rights is comfortably accepted across the board, unlike the historically more divided millennial generation
+ I set the end-point to the class of 2031 because I figure that people born in 2013 and beyond will not have experienced the social and ethical turbulence that has defined our currently progressive era

This is how I'd define the generations:

GI Generation:  HS Class of 1929 to HS Class of 1945
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2541747375_1fabfce597_m.jpg
+ Struggled with the Depression
+ World War II Veterans
+ Parents of the Baby Boomers
+ Socially conservative, anti-Communist political views

Silent Generation:  HS Class of 1946 to HS Class of 1963
http://i.imgur.com/0vh86.jpg
+ Idolized Elvis Presley, Marilyn Monroe, Marlon Brando, Frank Sinatra, Audrey Hepburn, and James Dean
+ Did not enlist for World War II, but may have fought in the Korean War or Vietnam War
+ First generation to grow up with comic books and animated shorts and films

Baby Boomer Generation:  HS Class of 1964 to HS Class of 1982
https://confessionsofamediapostgrad.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/graduate-bus.png
+ First generation to grow up largely in suburban environments
+ Grew up with Hannah Barbera Cartoons, Howdy Doody, or Mickey Mouse Club
+ Fully embraced Beatlemania
+ Many of these people were hippies in the 60s and early 70s, but now this generation is Fox News' core audience

Generation X:  HS Class of 1983 to HS Class of 1998
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZCLNjcrCiVE/U2mBYQyw8CI/AAAAAAAABgk/jhD4R7xlgYQ/s1600/new+kids+on+the+block.jpg
+ The MTV Generation, initially the proponents of new wave in the 80s, later grunge and gangsta rap in the 90s
+ First generation to grow up with significant educational television like Sesame Street, Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, and Schoolhouse Rock, as well as color tv (which made this generation's attachment to MTV possible)
+ First generation to grow up with video games, with more of an emphasis on Atari and arcade cabinets than mascot-driven home consoles
+ Generally a highly casual and fairly rebellious generation, but still not as conservative now as current Boomers.

Millennials:  HS Class of 1999 to HS Class of 2015
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/7f/56/1333211111_hipsters2.jpg?itok=01VBXt3I
+ Can also be described as the "living room generation," since this generation was surrounded by a plethora of home toy products from a young age, as well as television shows that were much more risqué than anything in the past (i.e., Ren & Stimpy, Family Guy, South Park, etc.).
+ Grew up with home consoles like the NES, SNES, Sega Genesis, Nintendo 64, and GameCube.
+ First generation to really grow up with the Internet, particularly when the Internet was primarily accessed via computer and Internet Explorer still existed.
+ First generation to broadly support LGBT rights, as well as the first to push the current waves of feminism and black civil rights activism.

Generation Z:  HS Class of 2016 to HS Class of 2031?
http://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/8e79119/2147483647/resize/652x%3E/quality/85/?url=%2Fcmsmedia%2F2f%2F1c%2Fdf897d544e66a7853a3cbb1a75a1%2F150910-teens-editorial.jpg
+ This generation grew up with things like YouTube shows, iPhone/Android games, social media, and Netflix from a very young age and is thus much more accustomed to processing enormous amounts of information
+ Likely to emerge as the computer software generation, due to the job market's increasing reliance on computer and electronics engineers
+ Support for LGBT rights is comfortably accepted across the board, unlike the historically more divided millennial generation
+ I set the end-point to the class of 2031 because I figure that people born in 2013 and beyond will not have experienced the social and ethical turbulence that has defined our currently progressive era


This is 100% spot on, Great job!

They are roughly under 16/17 at the moment
I would also divide the generations into mini cohorts starting with the Baby Boomers like this:

1953-1957: Core Boomers (main Brady Bunch cohort)

1958-1964: Younger Boomers (main Big Chill cohort)

1965-1969: Older Gen Xers (main Brat Packers cohort)

1970-1976: Core Gen Xers (main Heathers cohort)

1977-1981: Younger Gen Xers (main Clueless cohort)

1982-1986: Older Millennials (main American Pie cohort)

1987-1993: Core Millennials (main Mean Girls cohort)

And so on

Anyways do you guys agree

I would've called the 1970ers-1976ers, the 90210 generation, interesting you chose Heathers. And for us I'd say we're the harry potter and twlight generation!

I would've called the 1970ers-1976ers, the 90210 generation, interesting you chose Heathers. And for us I'd say we're the harry potter and twlight generation!


Thats true! I chose Heathers because it came out in 89 and core Xers were 13-19 at the time. The Older Xers, born 65-69, were 16-20 when the Breakfast Club came onto the scene and it represented the start of X. Growing up as kids in the 70's, as teens in the 80's and eventually young adults and emerging adults in the 90's

The Heathers cohort or the 90210 cohort would of grew up in the late 70's/early 80's, and spend their youth in the late 80's/early 90's, while coming of age between the years 1988-1994 which widely considered the absolute peak of Gen X Youth Culture and when movies like Heathers and tv shows like 90210 & Fresh Prince were on the air

Going by the way #Infinity, the birth years would equate to:

GI Generation: b. 1911-1927 - WWII Veterans/Era of Jazz (Ultimate GI Year 1919)

Silent Generation: b. 1928-1945 - Civil Rights Leaders/Era of Rock n Roll (Ultimate Silent Year 1936)

Baby Boom Generation: b. 1946-1964 - Hippies/Era of Punk & Disco (Ultimate Baby Boomer Year 1955)

Generation X: b. 1965-1980 - Slackers/Era of Grunge & Gangsta Rap (Ultimate Gen X Year 1972)

Millennial Generation: b. 1981-1997 - Hipsters/Era of Electropop & Bubblegum Pop (Ultimate Millennial Year 1989)

Generation Z: b. 1998-2013 - Tweens/Teens/Kids/Era of EDM (Ultimate Gen Z Year 2005)


This seems pretty accurate to me

Going by the way #Infinity, the birth years would equate to:

GI Generation: b. 1911-1927 - WWII Veterans/Era of Jazz (Ultimate GI Year 1919)

Silent Generation: b. 1928-1945 - Civil Rights Leaders/Era of Rock n Roll (Ultimate Silent Year 1936)

Baby Boom Generation: b. 1946-1964 - Hippies/Era of Punk & Disco (Ultimate Baby Boomer Year 1955)

Generation X: b. 1965-1980 - Slackers/Era of Grunge & Gangsta Rap (Ultimate Gen X Year 1972)

Millennial Generation: b. 1981-1997 - Hipsters/Era of Electropop & Bubblegum Pop (Ultimate Millennial Year 1989)

Generation Z: b. 1998-2013 - Tweens/Teens/Kids/Era of EDM (Ultimate Gen Z Year 2005)


This seems pretty accurate to me


Agree with this, though I am not sure Generation Z is not still being born.

Eh, personally I think you're overrating the millennials. This is coming from someone born in 1993. I feel like our generation has done some good things like LGBT rights (though this was established in previous decades, I don't see how millennials are special in this regard). Black civil rights were also something that have spanned for generations (still nothing special about the millennials). Not to mention many Millennials fall into the trap of being SJWs, and supporting nutcases like Anita Sarkeesian, and spreading crazy ideas, like the whole "rape culture" and "patriarchy" theories.


Now, there have been some wonderful things to happen like the legalization of gay marriage, and the development of medicine, to name a few things.

However, there has also been some really regressive things that have occurred. In California (where I'm from), our governor, Jerry Brown, has signed an affirmative consent law, called "Yes Means Yes". Now you may think that this is a good thing, that it will help prevent sexual assault. However, if you look it up, you would find that it takes things to an extreme. They claim that the consent must be affirmative, which unfortunately can be arbitrary. Especially since the bill claims that a "lack of protest does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent". Seriously, how stupid is that? The bill specifically calls for "ongoing consent throughout a sexual activity". This is just plain retarded. If a man and a woman agree to have sex, that is all that is needed. You don't need to keep affirming consent throughout the entire act. Here's an image of what our idiot governor is pushing for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUwAKhHDXlU

Now technically consent could be non-verbal, unfortunately, it makes things more arbitrary under the law. How exactly is person supposed to know what constitutes for consent, if a "lack of protest does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent"? I honestly think this is going to cause a lot more problems, because people will be paranoid that their partner could turn on them, claiming that they "didn't affirm consent" at stage x (could be pretty much any point). They also claim that consent, when intoxicated is not real consent. So basically, if both a man and a woman have a couple of drinks, and have sex, a woman could go back and say "well, I didn't mean to say yes, because I had a few drinks". Oh yeah, not to mention, the bill threatens the idea of student due process. So it's basically a "guilty until proven innocent", scenario. Here's some videos for more clarity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Zp-5lTgZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjEl05_BhYg

Anyway, sorry for the long post, I just feel that it's important to keep in mind that society today is not entirely more "progressive". You should check out the channels Sargon of Akkad and TL;DR on Youtube. They can give you a full idea of the issues of today's society, especially with pseudo-progressivisim. This bill is only a small portion of the issues. So that's why I don't feel we truly live in a more "progressive" world.


I'm not a lawyer, and I have only a vague understanding of the law (I don't live in California), but it's not really that hard to affirm that you have somebody's consent during sex. You can look at things like their body language (are they receptive to what you're doing or about to do), or you can ask questions during sex (e.g. "Is it okay if I...?", "Do you like that?"), which people do all the time, anyway.

But, back on topic.  ::)

I don't want to start a thread, but is 1988/1989 the peak of the millennial generations?

I don't want to start a thread, but is 1988/1989 the peak of the millennial generations?


Probably.

I don't want to start a thread, but is 1988/1989 the peak of the millennial generations?


Probably.  People born that year may have owned some Ninja Turtles toys and played the Sega Genesis at a young age, but they would've been ripe to embrace all of the dominant trends of the late 90s and 2000s as they grew older, as well.  They also would've probably been familiar with all of the classic Nicktoons and Cartoon Cartoons from 1991 to 2004, whereas shows like Ren & Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life weren't even on the air anymore by the time I started watching cartoons.

Probably.  People born that year may have owned some Ninja Turtles toys and played the Sega Genesis at a young age, but they would've been ripe to embrace all of the dominant trends of the late 90s and 2000s as they grew older, as well.  They also would've probably been familiar with all of the classic Nicktoons and Cartoon Cartoons from 1991 to 2004, whereas shows like Ren & Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life weren't even on the air anymore by the time I started watching cartoons.


I remember there were still reruns of Ren and Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life in 1997/1998.

I remember there were still reruns of Ren and Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life in 1997/1998.


They weren't on anymore though by the beginning of the new millennium, by which people my age should have been at the height of their interest in Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.  Prior to that, I still watched Arthur on PBS, as well Pokémon on Kids WB, and played video games during my free time.  Even if you already were watching Nickelodeon by 1997/1998, it probably wouldn't have been a huge part of your childhood as it was for those who were in their core childhoods during the early and mid-90s.

They weren't on anymore though by the beginning of the new millennium, by which people my age should have been at the height of their interest in Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.  Prior to that, I still watched Arthur on PBS, as well Pokémon on Kids WB, and played video games during my free time.  Even if you already were watching Nickelodeon by 1997/1998, it probably wouldn't have been a huge part of your childhood as it was for those who were in their core childhoods during the early and mid-90s.


Ren & Stimpy lasted from 1991-1996. People born from 1980-1981 were in 5th grade throughout the 1st season and people born from 1989-1990 were in Kindergarten when most of the final season aired. So that's a 10 year period right there. I'm not sure how long the reruns lasted though. IMO, in order for a show to qualify as apart of your childhood, at least one season of the show has to premiere new episodes in one of your grade school elementary school years. Like for me, Rugrats may have started in 1991, but it still had new episodes throughout the early 2000's as late as 2nd grade for me, including reruns of older episodes being played regularly along the side, so I still consider Rugrats as a huge part of my core childhood despite most of its peak being spent in the 90's.

Ren & Stimpy lasted from 1991-1996. People born from 1980-1981 were in 5th grade throughout the 1st season and people born from 1989-1990 were in Kindergarten when most of the final season aired. So that's a 10 year period right there. I'm not sure how long the reruns lasted though. IMO, in order for a show to qualify as apart of your childhood, at least one season of the show has to premiere new episodes in one of your grade school elementary school years. Like for me, Rugrats may have started in 1991, but it still had new episodes throughout the early 2000's as late as 2nd grade for me, including reruns of older episodes being played regularly along the side, so I still consider Rugrats as a huge part of my core childhood despite most of its peak being spent in the 90's.


Yeah, Rugrats lasted much longer than Ren & Stimpy because the creator was never fired from Nickelodeon, though it did take a break in the mid-90s, a lot like Doug did before it began its less popular Disney era.  The fact that it held on until the end of the Klasky Csupo era in 2004 means it was basically a show for basically all three portions of the millennial generation, unlike the rest of the first wave of Nicktoons, which were early and mid-Y only (though Doug still had reruns in the early 2000s even on Nickelodeon; it was the show that replaced The Angry Beavers' 2:30 slot).

They weren't on anymore though by the beginning of the new millennium, by which people my age should have been at the height of their interest in Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.  Prior to that, I still watched Arthur on PBS, as well Pokémon on Kids WB, and played video games during my free time.  Even if you already were watching Nickelodeon by 1997/1998, it probably wouldn't have been a huge part of your childhood as it was for those who were in their core childhoods during the early and mid-90s.


That's true. Stuff like Pokemon and Arthur were probably more significant in our childhood. Still I feel like Ren and Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life were a bit of a gateway. Even if I didn't fully appreciate it until I was older. I think the reason I was aware of those shows were because of my older sister. She was born in 1987, so I guess she could be considered a core millennial. She pretty much remembers the entirety of the 90s.

That's true. Stuff like Pokemon and Arthur were probably more significant in our childhood. Still I feel like Ren and Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life were a bit of a gateway. Even if I didn't fully appreciate it until I was older. I think the reason I was aware of those shows were because of my older sister, whom was born in 1987.

Yup, older siblings are the reason I knew of Rocko, and Ren & Stimpy, I remember seeing reruns of them in the early 00s a couple of times even.

Ren & Stimpy lasted from 1991-1996. People born from 1980-1981 were in 5th grade throughout the 1st season and people born from 1989-1990 were in Kindergarten when most of the final season aired. So that's a 10 year period right there. I'm not sure how long the reruns lasted though. IMO, in order for a show to qualify as apart of your childhood, at least one season of the show has to premiere new episodes in one of your grade school elementary school years. Like for me, Rugrats may have started in 1991, but it still had new episodes throughout the early 2000's as late as 2nd grade for me, including reruns of older episodes being played regularly along the side, so I still consider Rugrats as a huge part of my core childhood despite most of its peak being spent in the 90's.


Yeah I think the initial audience (probably born in the 80s) lost interest when Dil was introduced.

Yeah I think the initial audience (probably born in the 80s) lost interest when Dil was introduced.

Ironically, that's when many of my friends and I got into the series! ;D ;D ;D  But, I'd say rugrats was for both 80s and early-mid 90s born.

Ironically, that's when many of my friends and I got into the series! ;D ;D ;D  But, I'd say rugrats was for both 80s and early-mid 90s born.


Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah I think the initial audience (probably born in the 80s) lost interest when Dil was introduced.
This is very true!

I have sisters born in the mid 80's and they say that all the time

While me and my sis born in 91 love both the pre dill and post dill episodes!

If we go by the widely accepted early 80's-mid 90's definiton of Gen Y and were to break into 3 distinct eras based on what was one of the most quintessential cartoons when certain groups were kids, then it would probably be this (note I am not saying that EVERYBODY is in the same category, but roughly)

1981-1986: Older Y, Main TMNT Cohort aka Neon Era Kids, Y2K Era Teens

1987-1990: Core Y, Main Power Rangers Cohort aka Core 90's Kids, Core 00's Teens

1991-1996: Younger Y, Main Pokemon Cohort aka Y2K Era Kids, Electropop Era Teens

Thats true! I chose Heathers because it came out in 89 and core Xers were 13-19 at the time. The Older Xers, born 65-69, were 16-20 when the Breakfast Club came onto the scene and it represented the start of X. Growing up as kids in the 70's, as teens in the 80's and eventually young adults and emerging adults in the 90's

The Heathers cohort or the 90210 cohort would of grew up in the late 70's/early 80's, and spend their youth in the late 80's/early 90's, while coming of age between the years 1988-1994 which widely considered the absolute peak of Gen X Youth Culture and when movies like Heathers and tv shows like 90210 & Fresh Prince were on the air


I have some insight into this because my father was actually born in 1964 (he was just 22 when I was born). Even though his age group is usually lumped in with Gen X, he did start high school in 1979, and generally considers the 70's to be a part of his "time". He liked Disco when he was in junior high, and then Punk when he was in high school (both are considered to be "late Boomer" genres), and he owns a boatload of albums from major 70's rock acts like Boston, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John and Led Zeppelin. In the early 80's he was mostly into New Wave and Hard Rock, but I never really hear him talk much about stuff that came out post-1985, so it seems as if he began to phase out of pop culture a bit at that point.

Because of somebody like him, I've always been intrigued by the idea of the existence of a "Generation Jones", made up of people on the cusp of being Boomers or Xers. These would be people, like my dad, that were too young to remember the upheavals of the 60's, or to be drafted into service in Vietnam, but still old enough to vividly remember Watergate and the malaise of the 70's. As a prime example of a "Jonser", think about somebody like, say, Barack Obama, who was born in 1961.

I have some insight into this because my father was actually born in 1964 (he was just 22 when I was born). Even though his age group is usually lumped in with Gen X, he did start high school in 1979, and generally considers the 70's to be a part of his "time". He liked Disco when he was in junior high, and then Punk when he was in high school (both are considered to be "late Boomer" genres), and he owns a boatload of albums from major 70's rock acts like Boston, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John and Led Zeppelin. In the early 80's he was mostly into New Wave and Hard Rock, but I never really hear him talk much about stuff that came out post-1985, so it seems as if he began to phase out of pop culture a bit at that point.

Because of somebody like him, I've always been intrigued by the idea of the existence of a "Generation Jones", made up of people on the cusp of being Boomers or Xers. These would be people, like my dad, that were too young to remember the upheavals of the 60's, or to be drafted into service in Vietnam, but still old enough to vividly remember Watergate and the malaise of the 70's. As a prime example of a "Jonser", think about somebody like, say, Barack Obama, who was born in 1961.


Yep, Generation Jonesers I consider to be the late boomers and early Xers. Basically my parents, born in 1959 and 1965.

I have some insight into this because my father was actually born in 1964 (he was just 22 when I was born). Even though his age group is usually lumped in with Gen X, he did start high school in 1979, and generally considers the 70's to be a part of his "time". He liked Disco when he was in junior high, and then Punk when he was in high school (both are considered to be "late Boomer" genres), and he owns a boatload of albums from major 70's rock acts like Boston, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John and Led Zeppelin. In the early 80's he was mostly into New Wave and Hard Rock, but I never really hear him talk much about stuff that came out post-1985, so it seems as if he began to phase out of pop culture a bit at that point.

Because of somebody like him, I've always been intrigued by the idea of the existence of a "Generation Jones", made up of people on the cusp of being Boomers or Xers. These would be people, like my dad, that were too young to remember the upheavals of the 60's, or to be drafted into service in Vietnam, but still old enough to vividly remember Watergate and the malaise of the 70's. As a prime example of a "Jonser", think about somebody like, say, Barack Obama, who was born in 1961.


Yeah my mother would fall into that category, being born in 57'. She remembers the 60's pretty vividly but she doesn't relate it with her youth, more like her childhood. While the 70's and early 80's was 'her time' and she talks about these two eras the most when reminiscing about her youth. Hence why she doesn't relate to the boomer label, as since I asked her if she related to the boomer label and she always thought of boomers as her husband or her sister (my aunt was born in 52'). I then asked her if she related to Gen X, and she said no to that either. So I do agree, Gen Jones does exist, think of Michael Jackson & Madonna, they are the epitome of Gen Jones

My dad on the other hand was born in 49, and hes the living emodiyment of a baby boomer. Grew up in the conservative 50's, came of age in the radical 60's, served in Vietnam, discoed in the 70's, and yuppied (and married my mom) in the 80's lol

Probably.  People born that year may have owned some Ninja Turtles toys and played the Sega Genesis at a young age, but they would've been ripe to embrace all of the dominant trends of the late 90s and 2000s as they grew older, as well.  They also would've probably been familiar with all of the classic Nicktoons and Cartoon Cartoons from 1991 to 2004, whereas shows like Ren & Stimpy and Rocko's Modern Life weren't even on the air anymore by the time I started watching cartoons.


I would include us '87ers in the Gen Y peak also. Generally speaking, kids born 1987-89 are the only cohort both old enough and young enough to have checked all of the key Millennial "boxes". As you mentioned, we were old enough to have gotten into the waning years of the TMNT fad, but young enough to have still collected Pokemon cards in 1999. Old enough to have owned an SNES, Genesis, or even NES, but young enough to have played the PS2 as junior high/high school kids. Old enough to clearly remember a time before the average person had ever heard of the internet, but still young enough to have gotten fully immersed in the MySpace/Facebook/social media fad.

Kids in this group also bridged the gap musically as well. We were old enough to have liked late 90's acts like Sugar Ray, LFO, Smash Mouth, and the Spice Girls, but we were also still in the target age group for more stereotypically Millennial stuff like Nickleback, Jimmy Eat World, Yellowcard, The Strokes, etc.

Yeah my mother would fall into that category, being born in 57'. She remembers the 60's pretty vividly but she doesn't relate it with her youth, more like her childhood. While the 70's and early 80's was 'her time' and she talks about these two eras the most when reminiscing about her youth. Hence why she doesn't relate to the boomer label, as since I asked her if she related to the boomer label and she always thought of boomers as her husband or her sister (my aunt was born in 52'). I then asked her if she related to Gen X, and she said no to that either. So I do agree, Gen Jones does exist, think of Michael Jackson & Madonna, they are the epitome of Gen Jones

My dad on the other hand was born in 49, and hes the living emodiyment of a baby boomer. Grew up in the conservative 50's, came of age in the radical 60's, served in Vietnam, discoed in the 70's, and yuppied (and married my mom) in the 80's lol


Yeah, 1949 is just about as stereotypical a Boomer birth year as you can get. Their peak childhood years came in the Elvis/James Dean/Malt Shop segment of the 50's, they started high school the year JFK died, turned 18 during the "Summer of Love", were 21 during during the 1970 "Student Strike" that followed the Kent State shootings, and were young adults during the height of Disco excess. I would imagine that a great many 1949ers cast their first vote for George McGovern in his 1972 landslide defeat, then, twelve years later as a much more moderate "yuppie", voted for Ronald Reagan in his 1984 landslide victory.

I would say that your mom, being born in '57, is a more stereotypical example of a "Jonser" than my dad. '64ers and '65ers just barely squeeze into that group, as they are the last birth years to start high school in the '70s, and the last that could have reasonably gotten into Disco before the backlash against it began to set in. People born after 1965 (such as my mom, who's a few years younger than my dad) were more likely to be in their prime music age during the MJ/Madonna/Brat Pack mid '80s.

If we go by the widely accepted early 80's-mid 90's definiton of Gen Y and were to break into 3 distinct eras based on what was one of the most quintessential cartoons when certain groups were kids, then it would probably be this (note I am not saying that EVERYBODY is in the same category, but roughly)

1981-1986: Older Y, Main TMNT Cohort aka Neon Era Kids, Y2K Era Teens

1987-1990: Core Y, Main Power Rangers Cohort aka Core 90's Kids, Core 00's Teens

1991-1996: Younger Y, Main Pokemon Cohort aka Y2K Era Kids, Electropop Era Teens
1991 borns weren't the prime electropop era teens that's insane! We were already in our senior year of high school when that fad began or at least about to become legalized adults and the core of the generation tends to be the longest cohort so this would be more accurate

Early Y 1981-1985

Peak Y 1986-1991

Late Y 1992-1996

People born in 1990 would likely view the Y2k era as a major part of their childhood as well I mean they were only 9 in 1999 and that still one of the best ages childhood has to offer. Also I think the real cohort that enjoyed Pokemon were those born from about 1988/1989-1992 about, I have a cousin born in 89 and I remember he enjoyed early Pokemon at the time back in 1999.

1991 borns weren't the prime electropop era teens that's insane! We were already in our senior year of high school when that fad began or at least about to become legalized adults and the core of the generation tends to be the longest cohort so this would be more accurate

Early Y 1981-1985

Peak Y 1986-1991

Late Y 1992-1996

People born in 1990 would likely view the Y2k era as a major part of their childhood as well I mean they were only 9 in 1999 and that still one of the best ages childhood has to offer. Also I think the real cohort that enjoyed Pokemon were those born from about 1988/1989-1992 about, I have a cousin born in 89 and I remember he enjoyed early Pokemon at the time back in 1999.


You make a good point, however on the Pokemon thing I was just going by based on when the trend was most popular which was from  late 1998-2001 and when it was still popular from late 2001-2003 roughly. While the trend at first was mostly with late 80's babies, many of them grew out of it pretty quickly. These are your Gen Wunners, aka the guys that only liked the first season and or when the franchise only had 150 Pokemon. Meanwhile people born from 1992-1996 were all old enough to watch the show during its peak in popularity during 1999-2001 roughly, but were also young enough to continue watching it throughout 2001-2003 even though show was past its peak was still relatively popular at the time. IMO, If you at least grew up during the first 5 seasons (basically with the original trio, Ash, Brock & Misty) and all of the Gameboy Color Games and the first few Advanced Games, then thats what I would consider the true kids of that generation

Also I think the real cohort that enjoyed Pokemon were those born from about 1988/1989-1992 about, I have a cousin born in 89 and I remember he enjoyed early Pokemon at the time back in 1999.


Woah woah woah hold up, are you referring to the Pokemon video games or the Pokemon TV show on Kids WB?

Woah woah woah hold up, are you referring to the Pokemon video games or the Pokemon TV show on Kids WB?

Yeah...I hope to god he meant the games because we were old enough for Pokeamania when it was still relevant. Cause if he meant the anime on Kids WB he's kidding himself.

You make a good point, however on the Pokemon thing I was just going by based on when the trend was most popular which was from  late 1998-2001 and when it was still popular from late 2001-2003 roughly. While the trend at first was mostly with late 80's babies, many of them grew out of it pretty quickly. These are your Gen Wunners, aka the guys that only liked the first season and or when the franchise only had 150 Pokemon. Meanwhile people born from 1992-1996 were all old enough to watch the show during its peak in popularity during 1999-2001 roughly, but were also young enough to continue watching it throughout 2001-2003 even though show was past its peak was still relatively popular at the time. IMO, If you at least grew up during the first 5 seasons (basically with the original trio, Ash, Brock & Misty) and all of the Gameboy Color Games and the first few Advanced Games, then thats what I would consider the true kids of that generation
Oh I see what you mean now. I don't think 91ers really would have still been into Pokemon like that anymore by 2003 being that they turned 12 that year and w were getting into more adolescent oriented activities, although I do remember that my slightly older cousin that I mentioned above was still into Pokemon cards in late 2002. He actually was teaching me how to battle.


Woah woah woah hold up, are you referring to the Pokemon video games or the Pokemon TV show on Kids WB?
The TV show.

The TV show.


When Ash, Brock, and Misty were on Pokemon from 1999-2003, which was Indigo League through Master Quest, I think the main cohort would mainly be early & mid 90's babies, not late 80's babies. Someone born in 1989 would almost be in middle school by the time Pokemon reached its peak and would've mostly spent his core childhood with Power Rangers. However, I understand how everybody's experiences were different.

When Ash, Brock, and Misty were on Pokemon from 1999-2003, which was Indigo League through Master Quest, I think the main cohort would mainly be early & mid 90's babies, not late 80's babies. Someone born in 1989 would almost be in middle school by the time Pokemon reached its peak and would've mostly spent his core childhood with Power Rangers. However, I understand how everybody's experiences were different.
If that is the case those born in 1990 would be the oldest to be into Pokemon during its peak since they were only in 4th grade during the 1999-2000 school although I still think personally that somebody born in late 1989 at least could've gotten into early Pokemon during its peak. I think people born from late 1989- mid 1991 share a lot of the same experiences growing and grow up basically on the same things that's why I consider us part of the same cohort.

If that is the case those born in 1990 would be the oldest to be into Pokemon during its peak since they were only in 4th grade during the 1999-2000 school although I still think personally that somebody born in late 1989 at least could've gotten into early Pokemon during its peak. I think people born from late 1989- mid 1991 share a lot of the same experiences growing and grow up basically on the same things that's why I consider us part of the same cohort.


In addition to this, I believe that Class of 2011 (late 1992-mid 1993) would be the ultimate Pokemania kids, because they were in Kindergarten (1998-1999) when the first season of Pokemon premiered on Kids WB, and in 5th grade (2003-2004) during the end of Pokemon's final season with Misty, which was Master Quest. So you could really say 1992 & 1993 born's in general were the ultimate Pokemon kids in its peak of popularity.

I actually think the significance of Pokémon from about the time of 9/11 through the last Misty season is exaggerated.  By then, Pokémania was pretty much completely dead, with Yu-Gi-Oh! being the major kid's anime fad of the day (along with DBZ).  If anything, the beginning of the Hoenn era was when Pokémon began to rebound, as that was when all of my classmates suddenly began discussing Ruby & Sapphire instead of Yu-Gi-Oh!.  I distinctly remember only making as far as the Umbra & Lumis duel (near the end of 4th grade) before I stopped watching the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime, though it was the ridiculous Noah arc that was the true death knell for Yu-Gi-Oh!'s mainstream popularity.

Yeah...I hope to god he meant the games because we were old enough for Pokeamania when it was still relevant. Cause if he meant the anime on Kids WB he's kidding himself.
Well I'm not saying you were not old enough to remember Pokemania I just think you guys were a little young to be the main demographic for Pokemon during its very early days(1999/2000) unlike those who were in their core childhood at the time. I guess since you turned six in 2001 I guess you could say you were somewhat demographic for some of the peak early Pokemon era.

Well I'm not saying you were not old enough to remember Pokemania I just think you guys were a little young to be the main demographic for Pokemon during its very early days(1999/2000) unlike those who were in their core childhood at the time. I guess since you turned six in 2001 I guess you could say you were somewhat demographic for some of the peak early Pokemon era.


I disagree with you completely. In a previous post you said people born from 1988/1989-1992. However I was born in October 1993, which would have made me 6 when Pokemon was at its peak. I was at the perfect age to enjoy Pokemon! Not to mention the main demographic for Pokemon was like 4-10.

In addition to this, I believe that Class of 2011 (late 1992-mid 1993) would be the ultimate Pokemania kids, because they were in Kindergarten (1998-1999) when the first season of Pokemon premiered on Kids WB, and in 5th grade (2003-2004) during the end of Pokemon's final season with Misty, which was Master Quest. So you could really say 1992 & 1993 born's in general were the ultimate Pokemon kids in its peak of popularity.


What about the class of 2012?

What about the class of 2012?


I meant the ultimate Pokemon kids, like who was in elementary school throughout the WHOLE peak from 1999-2003. Class of 2012 entered elementary school when season 2 of Pokemon was getting started, and was still in 5th grade by the time the Advanced season was on when Misty was no longer around. Now of course y'all were the prime age for Pokemon's peak too, but I was just referring to the ultimate Pokemon group of kids. So basically in general, Class of 2011 (1992-1993) were in elementary school throughout Pokemon's entire peak from Indigo League to Master Quest. Class of 2006 (1987-1988) were in 5th grade (1998-1999) when Pokemon's peak was just getting started, and Class of 2016 (1997-1998) were in Kindergarten (2003-2004) when Pokemon's peak came to an end. Now remember I'm not talking about the early Pokemon days or the Pokemania era from 1997-2000 or whatever. I understand how Yu-Gi-Oh exploded in 2001, but Pokemon was still pretty big at the time and Misty was still on the show for 2 more years, and I'm pretty sure there were some people who had Pokemon vs. Yu-Gi-Oh debates at the time.

I disagree with you completely. In a previous post you said people born from 1988/1989-1992. However I was born in October 1993, which would have made me 6 when Pokemon was at its peak. I was at the perfect age to enjoy Pokemon! Not to mention the main demographic for Pokemon was like 4-10.


I agree, I have a cousin who's currently in 1st grade about to turn 7 this month, and he's been into Pokemon since he was 5 1/2 last year, now of course Pokemon is no where near its prime anymore, but there's still merchandise for the next generation series today, he has all kinds of books and cards in his room, and he enjoys the Pokemon XY series on Cartoon Network. I was 6 in 2002 and I have a picture of the first lego toy I ever built, and it was a huge spaceship. I just visually copied from the pictures and put that thing together like a champion! So it's no doubt that people at that age can get into the pop culture geared towards kids easily.

Well I'm not saying you were not old enough to remember Pokemania I just think you guys were a little young to be the main demographic for Pokemon during its very early days(1999/2000) unlike those who were in their core childhood at the time. I guess since you turned six in 2001 I guess you could say you were somewhat demographic for some of the peak early Pokemon era.


Heck I was already heavily into Pokemon in 2001. I had Pokemon Red on the Gameboy Color, I watched the show everyday after school and on Saturdays and I would play the card game with my friends and cousins. So I most definitely experienced it during its 'peak'.

However I get where you are coming from. Someone from 1988 or 1989 wouldve been 9/10 years old when Pokemon blew up. I was a similar age when shows like Naruto and Sonic X were popular in the mid 00's. However, I would still say I grew up with Pokemon, especially since I could remember first watching the show in 1999, and watching it regularly from 1999-2003, so when I was 3-7. By the time the main 1st 5 seasons came to a close, I was 7 1/2 (mathematically, the 'peak' of my childhood) going on 8.

I would say how I grew up with the first 5 seasons of Pokemon is similar to how someone from 88' or 89' would've been mostly influences by a show like Power Rangers. They were age 4/5 when the show began and age 7/8 when the main popularity of the original show came to a close.

I actually think the significance of Pokémon from about the time of 9/11 through the last Misty season is exaggerated.  By then, Pokémania was pretty much completely dead, with Yu-Gi-Oh! being the major kid's anime fad of the day (along with DBZ). If anything, the beginning of the Hoenn era was when Pokémon began to rebound, as that was when all of my classmates suddenly began discussing Ruby & Sapphire instead of Yu-Gi-Oh!.  I distinctly remember only making as far as the Umbra & Lumis duel (near the end of 4th grade) before I stopped watching the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime, though it was the ridiculous Noah arc that was the true death knell for Yu-Gi-Oh!'s mainstream popularity.


Ok, I understand that the show wasn't the biggest show during the 2001-2002 school year like it was from 1998-mid 2001, but dead? Maybe for guys your age (though your not that much older than me, but I digress) but despite YuGiOh becoming more popular I still remember Pokemon still be generally liked for kids my age. Heck I remember when I was 5-7 years old kids my age on the playground would have debates about which show/card game was better

I meant the ultimate Pokemon kids, like who was in elementary school throughout the WHOLE peak from 1999-2003. Class of 2012 entered elementary school when season 2 of Pokemon was getting started, and was still in 5th grade by the time the Advanced season was on when Misty was no longer around. Now of course y'all were the prime age for Pokemon's peak too, but I was just referring to the ultimate Pokemon group of kids. So basically in general, Class of 2011 (1992-1993) were in elementary school throughout Pokemon's entire peak from Indigo League to Master Quest. Class of 2006 (1987-1988) were in 5th grade (1998-1999) when Pokemon's peak was just getting started, and Class of 2016 (1997-1998) were in Kindergarten (2003-2004) when Pokemon's peak came to an end. Now remember I'm not talking about the early Pokemon days or the Pokemania era from 1997-2000 or whatever. I understand how Yu-Gi-Oh exploded in 2001, but Pokemon was still pretty big at the time and Misty was still on the show for 2 more years, and I'm pretty sure there were some people who had Pokemon vs. Yu-Gi-Oh debates at the time.


Oh okay, that makes sense.

Ok, I understand that the show wasn't the biggest show during the 2001-2002 school year like it was from 1998-mid 2001, but dead? Maybe for guys your age (though your not that much older than me, but I digress) but despite YuGiOh becoming more popular I still remember Pokemon still be generally liked for kids my age. Heck I remember when I was 5-7 years old kids my age on the playground would have debates about which show/card game was better


I just mean Pokémon was definitely no longer a "craze" when Yu-Gi-Oh! became popular the way it was during Generation I and early Generation II.  Pokémon is still extremely popular today, selling millions upon millions with each new game release, but the general public is no longer obsessed with it the way it was in 1999 and 2000.  Even if the anime has gotten consistently worse over the years, I certainly wouldn't consider the 2001-2002 or especially 2002-2003 (pre-Ruby & Sapphire) school years anywhere close to Pokémania, due to Yu-Gi-Oh! overshadowing the franchise during that time.

I just mean Pokémon was definitely no longer a "craze" when Yu-Gi-Oh! became popular the way it was during Generation I and early Generation II.  Pokémon is still extremely popular today, selling millions upon millions with each new game release, but the general public is no longer obsessed with it the way it was in 1999 and 2000.  Even if the anime has gotten consistently worse over the years, I certainly wouldn't consider the 2001-2002 or especially 2002-2003 (pre-Ruby & Sapphire) school years anywhere close to Pokémania, due to Yu-Gi-Oh! overshadowing the franchise during that time.


Agreed. While not as popular as it was 15 years ago, Pokemon is an example of something that has outlived fad status, and has a stable amount of popularity. The same could be said for Power Rangers. It peaked in 1994-1995, declined in 1996-1997 (sort of like how Pokemon declined in 2001-2002). 1998 was when Power Rangers was revitalized, but nowhere near as popular as it was in the mid 90s. In a way I think Power Rangers in Space is almost like what the Hoenn region was to Pokemon, in the sense that each helped revitalize their respective series, and helped them outlive fad status. However, the popularity it once had during the peak years, cannot be duplicated, ever.

I just mean Pokémon was definitely no longer a "craze" when Yu-Gi-Oh! became popular the way it was during Generation I and early Generation II.  Pokémon is still extremely popular today, selling millions upon millions with each new game release, but the general public is no longer obsessed with it the way it was in 1999 and 2000.  Even if the anime has gotten consistently worse over the years, I certainly wouldn't consider the 2001-2002 or especially 2002-2003 (pre-Ruby & Sapphire) school years anywhere close to Pokémania, due to Yu-Gi-Oh! overshadowing the franchise during that time.


I understand what you mean. Personally, I'd still consider the peak of the Pokemon TV show to be from 1999-2003 here in the U.S. or according to wikipedia basically series 1 of Pokemon which was Indigo League through Master Quest. However, if you're referring to Pokemania craze, then I'd go with 1998-2001 on that one like you explained. Since late 2003/early 2004 we've been having all these new generations/series of Pokemon like we still do today.

I just mean Pokémon was definitely no longer a "craze" when Yu-Gi-Oh! became popular the way it was during Generation I and early Generation II.  Pokémon is still extremely popular today, selling millions upon millions with each new game release, but the general public is no longer obsessed with it the way it was in 1999 and 2000.  Even if the anime has gotten consistently worse over the years, I certainly wouldn't consider the 2001-2002 or especially 2002-2003 (pre-Ruby & Sapphire) school years anywhere close to Pokémania, due to Yu-Gi-Oh! overshadowing the franchise during that time.

Yeah, pre K and kindergarten it was Digimon vs Pokemon, then in 1st and 2nd grade it was yu gi oh vs Pokemon! Lol

Heres another way you could look at generations, since 18 year periods could be seen as long, so instead I opted for 7-15 year time periods:

Baby Boomers: b. 1946-1956 - Children of the 50's & early 60's, The Mickey Mouse Club, JFK, The Beatles, Woodstock, Civil Rights, Motown, Anti War Protests, Hippies, Vietnam, 'Sex Drugs & Rock n Roll'.

Ultimate Baby Boomer b. 1952 ie. Liam Neeson, David Hasselhoff, Jeff Goldblum


Generation Jones: b. 1957-1964 - Children of the 60's & early 70's, Watergate, End of Vietnam, Stagnation, Punks, Disco, The Bee Gees, The Jackson 5, Saturday Night Fever, Grease, Star Wars, Yuppies, New Wave, Pong, Space Invaders, The Brady Bunch.

Ultimate Joneser b. 1961 ie. Barack Obama, George Clooney, Woody Harelson


Generation X: b. 1965-1980 - Reagan Revolution, The Muppets, Sesame Street, GI Joe, Cheers, Hair Metal, Alternative, Gangsta Rap, MTV, Stoners, Slackers, The Brat Pack, Nintendo, FRIENDS, Beverly Hills 90210, Melrose Place, The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

Ultimate Xer b. 1972 ie. Eminem, Dwayne Johnson, Cameron Diaz


Millennials: b. 1981-1997 - Dawn of Information Age, Power Rangers, Skip It, YoYos, Pokemon, The WB, Bubblegum Pop, Electropop, YouTube, Facebook, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, iPod, N64, Playstation 2, Mean Girls, Twilight, Super Smash Bros, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The O.C, Pretty Little Liars, Hipsters, SJWs.

Ultimate Millennial b. 1989 ie. Taylor Swift, Chris Brown, Nina Dobrev


Generation Z: b. 1998-2012 - Currently being defined

Ultimate Zer yet to be defined

Heres another way you could look at generations, since 18 year periods could be seen as long, so instead I opted for 7-15 year time periods:

Baby Boomers: b. 1946-1956 - Children of the 50's & early 60's, The Mickey Mouse Club, JFK, The Beatles, Woodstock, Civil Rights, Motown, Anti War Protests, Hippies, Vietnam, 'Sex Drugs & Rock n Roll'.

Ultimate Baby Boomer b. 1952 ie. Liam Neeson, David Hasselhoff, Jeff Goldblum


Generation Jones: b. 1957-1964 - Children of the 60's & early 70's, Watergate, End of Vietnam, Stagnation, Punks, Disco, The Bee Gees, The Jackson 5, Saturday Night Fever, Grease, Star Wars, Yuppies, New Wave, Pong, Space Invaders, The Brady Bunch.

Ultimate Joneser b. 1961 ie. Barack Obama, George Clooney, Woody Harelson


Generation X: b. 1965-1980 - Reagan Revolution, The Muppets, Sesame Street, GI Joe, Cheers, Hair Metal, Alternative, Gangsta Rap, MTV, Stoners, Slackers, The Brat Pack, Nintendo, FRIENDS, Beverly Hills 90210, Melrose Place, The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

Ultimate Xer b. 1972 ie. Eminem, Dwayne Johnson, Cameron Diaz


Millennials: b. 1981-1997 - Dawn of Information Age, Power Rangers, Skip It, YoYos, Pokemon, The WB, Bubblegum Pop, Electropop, YouTube, Facebook, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, iPod, N64, Playstation 2, Mean Girls, Twilight, Super Smash Bros, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The O.C, Pretty Little Liars, Hipsters, SJWs.

Ultimate Millennial b. 1989 ie. Taylor Swift, Chris Brown, Nina Dobrev


Generation Z: b. 1998-2012 - Currently being defined

Ultimate Zer yet to be defined


Ugh, it sad but true. Our generation is really is defined by hipsters and SJWs (at the moment). I really hope the SJW movement is just a 2010s trend.

Heres another way you could look at generations, since 18 year periods could be seen as long, so instead I opted for 7-15 year time periods:

Baby Boomers: b. 1946-1956 - Children of the 50's & early 60's, The Mickey Mouse Club, JFK, The Beatles, Woodstock, Civil Rights, Motown, Anti War Protests, Hippies, Vietnam, 'Sex Drugs & Rock n Roll'.

Ultimate Baby Boomer b. 1952 ie. Liam Neeson, David Hasselhoff, Jeff Goldblum


Generation Jones: b. 1957-1964 - Children of the 60's & early 70's, Watergate, End of Vietnam, Stagnation, Punks, Disco, The Bee Gees, The Jackson 5, Saturday Night Fever, Grease, Star Wars, Yuppies, New Wave, Pong, Space Invaders, The Brady Bunch.

Ultimate Joneser b. 1961 ie. Barack Obama, George Clooney, Woody Harelson


Generation X: b. 1965-1980 - Reagan Revolution, The Muppets, Sesame Street, GI Joe, Cheers, Hair Metal, Alternative, Gangsta Rap, MTV, Stoners, Slackers, The Brat Pack, Nintendo, FRIENDS, Beverly Hills 90210, Melrose Place, The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

Ultimate Xer b. 1972 ie. Eminem, Dwayne Johnson, Cameron Diaz


Millennials: b. 1981-1997 - Dawn of Information Age, Power Rangers, Skip It, YoYos, Pokemon, The WB, Bubblegum Pop, Electropop, YouTube, Facebook, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, iPod, N64, Playstation 2, Mean Girls, Twilight, Super Smash Bros, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The O.C, Pretty Little Liars, Hipsters, SJWs.

Ultimate Millennial b. 1989 ie. Taylor Swift, Chris Brown, Nina Dobrev


Generation Z: b. 1998-2012 - Currently being defined

Ultimate Zer yet to be defined

Question for you, Ocarinafan: whenever someone tells you "You are Gen Z", be it on the news, in college class, or maybe one of your friends, do you say "No, I'm not", "Yes, I am", "I'm in between Y and Z", or do you not care? The vast majority of people say it begins in 1995, as much as older Zers want to disagree with that.

Yes, I know generations are a load of soft-science bullsheesh. However, due to the bad reputations of certain gens, older/younger members often want to distance themselves from them. For example, those born in 1981-84 HATE being called "Millennials", since they didn't have widespread Internet until high/school.

Likewise, those born 1961-64 often prefer to be Gen X, since they didn't participate in Vietnam protests at all and don't remember when JFK was shot. They also want to distance themselves from the corporate shilling, "screwing everyone over", and "f**k yours, I got mine" perceptions of the Boomers.

Question for you, Ocarinafan: whenever someone tells you "You are Gen Z", be it on the news, in college class, or maybe one of your friends, do you say "No, I'm not", "Yes, I am", "I'm in between Y and Z", or do you not care? The vast majority of people say it begins in 1995, as much as older Zers want to disagree with that.

Yes, I know generations are a load of soft-science bullsheesh. However, due to the bad reputations of certain gens, older/younger members often want to distance themselves from them. For example, those born in 1981-84 HATE being called "Millennials", since they didn't have widespread Internet until high/school.

Likewise, those born 1961-64 often prefer to be Gen X, since they didn't participate in Vietnam protests at all and don't remember when JFK was shot. They also want to distance themselves from the corporate shilling, "screwing everyone over", and "f**k yours, I got mine" perceptions of the Boomers.


Hahaha, Zelek you have a point there! I here in this everyday life too! I'm in a Physics class right now and there are a few early 80's born's in there and they think their are Generation X or at the tail end of the generation and they actually do get offended if they get called Generation Y or millennials, while people born in the early 60's get offended when getting called Baby Boomers because they say it's an insult of calling them "old" and they wanna feel like like the X'ers.

Hahaha, Zelek you have a point there! I here in this everyday life too! I'm in a Physics class right now and there are a few early 80's born's in there and they think their are Generation X or at the tail end of the generation and they actually do get offended if they get called Generation Y or millennials, while people born in the early 60's get offended when getting called Baby Boomers because they say it's an insult of calling them "old" and they wanna feel like like the X'ers.

I'm guessing the presentations in your classes say "Gen Z 1995-2010", right? How do those in their late teens/early 20s feel about it? Happy, indifferent, offended?

Question for you, Ocarinafan: whenever someone tells you "You are Gen Z", be it on the news, in college class, or maybe one of your friends, do you say "No, I'm not", "Yes, I am", "I'm in between Y and Z", or do you not care? The vast majority of people say it begins in 1995, as much as older Zers want to disagree with that.

Yes, I know generations are a load of soft-science bullsheesh. However, due to the bad reputations of certain gens, older/younger members often want to distance themselves from them. For example, those born in 1981-84 HATE being called "Millennials", since they didn't have widespread Internet until high/school.

Likewise, those born 1961-64 often prefer to be Gen X, since they didn't participate in Vietnam protests at all and don't remember when JFK was shot. They also want to distance themselves from the corporate shilling, "screwing everyone over", and "f**k yours, I got mine" perceptions of the Boomers.


It's interesting, there's still debate going on as to where the Y/Z line is. I read some forums on this site from 2006, where some people considered 1995 to be the first Z birth year, with the elements of Z starting with those born in 1993. Some other people even considered 1991 to have elements of Z and 1993 to be the first fully Z birth year. And some people even claimed those born in 1992 were Gen Y with elements of X (I'm not kidding). There was a lot of wacky, inconsistent ideas back then. Nowadays it seems there's a general consensus of Gen Z beginning around the 1998 or 1999, though some swear by the mainstream cutoff of 2000. Personally it's hard to say. The idea of grouping people in one category based on an 18-20 year period is pretty crazy. Though I guess each generation has it's peak years. 

Nowadays it seems there's a general consensus of Gen Z beginning around the 1998 or 1999, though some swear by the mainstream cutoff of 2000.

I've never heard this, it's always 1995-97 on news sites.

Hahaha, Zelek you have a point there! I here in this everyday life too! I'm in a Physics class right now and there are a few early 80's born's in there and they think their are Generation X or at the tail end of the generation and they actually do get offended if they get called Generation Y or millennials, while people born in the early 60's get offended when getting called Baby Boomers because they say it's an insult of calling them "old" and they wanna feel like like the X'ers.


I guess it's subjective. Sometimes I'm ashamed to associate myself as a Millennial. Especially with the current SJW movement. I know not all millennials are SJWs (I'm not one), but it seems to be a defining characteristic, at the moment.

Yeah, pre K and kindergarten it was Digimon vs Pokemon, then in 1st and 2nd grade it was yu gi oh vs Pokemon! Lol


True, but Digimon was always considered to be merely a wannabe-Pokémon, whereas Yu-Gi-Oh! was legitimately much more popular than Pokémon between its premiere in September 2001 (which makes sense, given that Yu-Gi-Oh! was much darker than Pokémon) and the release of Ruby & Sapphire.

I guess it's subjective. Sometimes I'm ashamed to associate myself as a Millennial. Especially with the current SJW movement. I know not all millennials are SJWs (I'm not one), but it seems to be a defining characteristic, at the moment.

Some argue that Gen Z is the "social justice generation", but others argue that they're only 15 at most (if you go by the 2000 start due) and most of the hypersensitivity comes from college-aged kids, aka Millennials.

I've never heard this, it's always 1995-97 on news sites.


I've heard that too, but honestly, there are so many different cutoffs thrown around, that it's probably getting arbitrary for many people. Personally I don't really care. I just hope that Gen Z, doesn't keep the SJW movement alive.

I've heard that too, but honestly, there are so many different cutoffs thrown around, that it's probably getting arbitrary for many people. Personally I don't really care. I just hope that Gen Z, doesn't keep the SJW movement alive.


I know. They're annoying as heck. I don't know why, I get a bad vibe from them.

True, but Digimon was always considered to be merely a wannabe-Pokémon, whereas Yu-Gi-Oh! was legitimately much more popular than Pokémon between its premiere in September 2001 (which makes sense, given that Yu-Gi-Oh! was much darker than Pokémon) and the release of Ruby & Sapphire.


To be fair there were a lot of alleged wannabe shows at the time like Medabots, Monster Rancher, and Cardcaptors. And while Digimon didn't quite match the success of Pokemon, it came close. It even had a worldwide theatrical release. Which is still a far-cry from the 3 Pokemon movies that got a worldwide theatrical release, but what can you do  ;D. I think while Digimon had better writing, it did have a hard time keeping up with Pokemon's marketability. Along with the show, Pokemon had the games (which was the meat of its success), the card games, the movies, and the designs of the Pokemon themselves (which admittedly, were more memorable).

I've heard that too, but honestly, there are so many different cutoffs thrown around, that it's probably getting arbitrary for many people.

What sources did you find that said 98-99? Could you link them, perhaps?

We should stop using Y and Z for these generations. X made sense, Y and Z is just stupid. Millennials (1981-1997) makes sense and we should keep that up. Instead of Z, they should be called Generation-i or whatever since that generation is so absorbed in their apple and google products it's not even funny. The kids of this generation were born 1998-onward and that's when the i-Mac was already out.


I know. They're annoying as heck. I don't know why, I get a bad vibe from them.


Me too. You know what's the worst thing about these social justice league heros? Some of them end up being my age! How on earth does that happen!? I've gone out a few times and seen these guys around 32/33 with tight jeans and big beards talking about gay rights, killing white people, "cis scum" and the "patriarchy." I always see these guys in record stores and coffee stores. I don't know if I have any hope for the i-Generation. Even tail end (1993-1997) Millennials had some experience in a less connected world (they're quickly losing that skill! Use it or lose it!). All the i-Generation knows is technology. Hardly any social skills whatsoever. They just trap themselves in safety bubbles on Tumbler instead of challenging themselves in the outside world.

We should stop using Y and Z for these generations. X made sense, Y and Z is just stupid. Millennials (1981-1997) makes sense and we should keep that up. Instead of Z, they should be called Generation-i or whatever since that generation is so absorbed in their apple and google products it's not even funny. The kids of this generation were born 1998-onward and that's when the i-Mac was already out.

Me too. You know what's the worst thing about these social justice league heros? Some of them end up being my age! How on earth does that happen!? I've gone out a few times and seen these guys around 32/33 with tight jeans and big beards talking about gay rights, killing white people, "cis scum" and the "patriarchy." I always see these guys in record stores and coffee stores. I don't know if I have any hope for the i-Generation. Even tail end (1993-1997) Millennials had some experience in a less connected world (they're quickly losing that skill! Use it or lose it!). All the i-Generation knows is technology. Hardly any social skills whatsoever. They just trap themselves in safety bubbles on Tumbler instead of challenging themselves in the outside world.

You're entitled to your opinion of thinking homosexuality is wrong but it might get you in trouble on this forum.

You're entitled to your opinion of thinking homosexuality is wrong but it might get you in trouble on this forum.


Oh, no, I don't think it's wrong at all. I support it but it's the way they go on about it to look good. They don't really believe in the causes they go on about.

Ah, I see.

I also am annoyed by SJW types. Ben Stiller says they probably wouldn't be able to make Tropic Thunder (a movie made only 7 years ago) today, due to people getting sensitive. This really puts into perspective how quickly and rapidly social media changed society, both for positive and negative.

I'm guessing the presentations in your classes say "Gen Z 1995-2010", right? How do those in their late teens/early 20s feel about it? Happy, indifferent, offended?


Actually in my sociology class last semester the professor gave us a brief lecture on generations and she stated that people in my class were Millennials. She went with the traditional 1982-2000 definition

Question for you, Ocarinafan: whenever someone tells you "You are Gen Z", be it on the news, in college class, or maybe one of your friends, do you say "No, I'm not", "Yes, I am", "I'm in between Y and Z", or do you not care? The vast majority of people say it begins in 1995, as much as older Zers want to disagree with that.

Yes, I know generations are a load of soft-science bullsheesh. However, due to the bad reputations of certain gens, older/younger members often want to distance themselves from them. For example, those born in 1981-84 HATE being called "Millennials", since they didn't have widespread Internet until high/school.

Likewise, those born 1961-64 often prefer to be Gen X, since they didn't participate in Vietnam protests at all and don't remember when JFK was shot. They also want to distance themselves from the corporate shilling, "screwing everyone over", and "f**k yours, I got mine" perceptions of the Boomers.


Personally I just consider myself YZ, since sources cannot figure a proper cutoff. For instance if you type in 'Millennials' on Google most recent sources and articles will go with the age range of 18-34, implying that Millennials were born from 1981-1997. While if you type in 'Generation Z' most sources and articles will go with the age range of 20 or 19 and under, implying that they were born from 1995-2010 or 1996-2010. So its pretty obvious that I am in a similar position as many late 70's/early 80's babies are when it comes down to being either X or Y. Infact check out these two sections from these wikipedia articles with both Millennials and Z

Millennials:

"Authors William Strauss and Neil Howe wrote about the Millennials in Generations: The History of America's Future, 1584 to 2069, and they released an entire book devoted to them, titled Millennials Rising: The Next Great Generation. Strauss and Howe are "widely credited with naming the Millennials" according to journalist Bruce Horovitz. In 1987, they coined the term "around the time 1982-born children were entering preschool and the media were first identifying their prospective link to the millennial year 2000". Strauss and Howe use 1982 as the Millennials' starting birth year and 2004 as the last birth year.

In August 1993, the phrase Generation Y first appeared in an Ad Age editorial to describe those who were aged 11 or younger as well as the teenagers of the upcoming ten years who were defined as different from Generation X. Since then, the company has sometimes used 1982 as the starting birth year. According to Horovitz, in 2012, Ad Age "threw in the towel by conceding that Millennials is a better name than Gen Y", and by 2014, a past director of data strategy at Ad Age said to NPR "the Generation Y label was a placeholder until we found out more about them".

Alternative names for this group that have been proposed in the past are: Generation We, Global Generation, Generation Next and the Net Generation. Millennials are sometimes also called Echo Boomers, referring to the generation's size relative to the Baby Boomer generation and due to the significant increase in birth rates during the 1980s and into the 1990s. In the United States, birth rates peaked in August 1990 and a 20th-century trend toward smaller families in developed countries continued.

Newsweek used the term Generation 9/11 to refer to young people who were between the ages of 10 and 20 years on 11 September 2001. The first reference to "Generation 9/11" was made in the cover story of the November 12, 2001 issue of Newsweek.

In his book The Lucky Few: Between the Greatest Generation and the Baby Boom, author Elwood Carlson called Millennials the "New Boomers" (born 1983 to 2001), because of the upswing in births after 1983, finishing with the "political and social challenges" that occurred after the terrorist acts of September 11, 2001, and the "persistent economic difficulties" of the time. Generally speaking, Millennials are the children of Baby Boomers or Generation Xers, while a few may have parents from the Silent Generation.

In 2006, Australian McCrindle Research Center, used 1982 to 2000 as birth dates in a document titled "Report on the Attitudes and Views of Generations X and Y on Superannuation". Separately, McCrindle has also defined "Generation Y" as those born between 1980 to 1994.

In 2013, a global generational study conducted by PricewaterhouseCoopers with the University of Southern California and the London Business School defined Millennials as those born between 1980 and 1995.

In May 2013, a Time magazine cover story identified Millennials as those born from 1980 or 1981 to 2000.

In 2014, the Pew Research Center, an American think tank organization, defined "adult Millennials" as those who are 18 to 33 years old, born 1981–1996. And according to them, the youngest Millennials are still "in their teens" with "no chronological end point set for them yet".

In 2015, the Pew Research Center also conducted research regarding generational identity. It was discovered that Millennials, or members of Generation Y, are less likely to strongly identify with the generational term when compared to Generation X or to the baby boomers. It was also found that Millennials chose most often to define itself with more negative terms such as self-absorbed, wasteful or greedy. In this 2015 report, Pew defined Millennials with birth years ranging from 1981 to 1997.

In Canada, the official body of Statistics Canada has declared 1992 as the last year of birth for Generation Y. "

Original Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials


Generation Z:

"Authors William Strauss and Neil Howe wrote several books on the subject of generations and are widely credited with coining the term Millennials. Howe has said "No one knows who will name the next generation after the Millennials". In 2005, their company sponsored an online contest in which respondents voted overwhelmingly for the name Homeland Generation. That was not long after the September 11th terrorist attacks, and one fallout of the disaster was that Americans may have felt more safe staying at home. Howe has described himself as "not totally wed" to the name, and cautioned that "names are being invented by people who have a great press release. Everyone is looking for a hook." Strauss and Howe defined the Homeland Generation as people born from the year 2005 onwards.

In 2012, USA Today sponsored an online contest for readers to choose the name of the next generation after the Millennials. The name Generation Z was suggested, although journalist Bruce Horovitz thought that some might find the term "off-putting". According to Horovitz, the generations begins roughly around 1995.

In 2013, the Nickelodeon channel used the term post-millennials to describe its audience.

iGeneration (or iGen) is a name that several individuals claim to have coined. Psychology professor and author Jean Twenge claims that the name iGen "just popped into her head" while she was driving near Silicon Valley, and that she had intended to use it as the title of her 2006 book Generation Me until it was overridden by her publisher. Demographer Cheryl Russell claims to have first used the term in 2009. In 2014, an NPR news intern noted that iGeneration "seems to be winning" as the name for the post-Millennials. The name has been described as "a wink and nod to Apple's iPod and iPhone", with former Ad Age writer Matt Carmichael noting that the lowercase "i" in iGeneration left room for interpretation, and could also stand for "interactive" or "international".

The Pluralist Generation (also abbreviated as Plurals) is a name coined in 2012 by marketing firm Frank N. Magid Associates, who use 1997 to the present day as birth dates. According to Magid, the name "Plurals" reflects that they are the most diverse of any generation in the United States.

In Australia, a 2005 report from the McCrindle Research Center used 2001 as the starting point of this generation's birth years. A later McCrindle report in 2009 gave a range of 1995-2009, starting with a recorded rise in birth rates, and fitting their newer definition of a generational span as 15 years. Under this definition McCrindle uses birth rates to determine when a new generation emerges rather than or in addition to sociological changes and trends. Statistics Canada defines the generation as starting in 1993."

Original Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z

So in the grand scheme of things me, along with a few others on this forum like Mqg, EazyE-Man, mxcrasher, #infinity, & musicguy93, among others are all on the cusp between Y & Z, though if pressed most of us might be more likely to consider ourselves Late Y rather than Early Z, since we remember all the quintessential Y cultural things like the lack of electronics, Web 1.0 era internet, the golden age of various kid networks, a prosperous economy, kids being treated like Angels, events like Columbine, Y2K, 2000 Election, 9/11, Hurricaine Katrina, and or The Late 2000's Recession