The fall of the Berlin Wall happened less than 12 years before 9/11, and it's now almost 14 years since 9/11.

The reason I didn't put this thread in the 00s section is because I was wondering if you have any other examples of historical facts like this?

That is absolutely unbelievable! :o :o

I know, huh?

Next year will be 15 years.  :o

That is absolutely unbelievable! :o :o


Yeah, that's a bit unbelievable, especially for those who were not born in 1989, yet or those who were still very young.

There is an era existing in the people's mind which Germans call "the-post-Berlin-Wall-era", and which usually refers to the early unified years. I usually think of the early 90s to 1995 at latest when hearing "post-Berlin-Wall-era), but my father actually tends to span this time frame up to ca. 2002. And I don't think that's too inaccurate, because you could actually still "smell the East" in the eastern states of Germany in the early 2000s.

I know, huh?

Next year will be 15 years.  :o


Where does the time go? :o

Others:

*Nirvana's Nevermind is now longer ago than Woodstock was when Nirvana was released.
*The beginning of WWII is now longer ago than when the end of the US Civil War as the start of WWII.
*The final Seinfeld episode is now longer ago than the first Magnum, PI was when Seinfeld ended.
*The first Spongebob episode is longer ago than the first Family Ties at the time.
*The release of Halo: Comat evolved (released just two months after 9/11) is longer ago than the release of Super Mario Bros. 3 was at a time that 8-bit games were already starting to get that "classic" tag.

And of course:

*Back to the Future is now longer ago than when Rock Around the Clock was released and started rock 'n roll to the masses.

It just shows how quickly some things push others firmly into the "vintage" category.

I think somehow the timeline in people's minds ends in 2000, squeezing the 15 years after that into nothing.

Where does the time go? :o


Into the toilet.

http://gephardtdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/flush.jpg

Others:

*Nirvana's Nevermind is now longer ago than Woodstock was when Nirvana was released.
*The beginning of WWII is now longer ago than when the end of the US Civil War as the start of WWII.
*The final Seinfeld episode is now longer ago than the first Magnum, PI was when Seinfeld ended.
*The first Spongebob episode is longer ago than the first Family Ties at the time.
*The release of Halo: Comat evolved (released just two months after 9/11) is longer ago than the release of Super Mario Bros. 3 was at a time that 8-bit games were already starting to get that "classic" tag.

And of course:

*Back to the Future is now longer ago than when Rock Around the Clock was released and started rock 'n roll to the masses.

It just shows how quickly some things push others firmly into the "vintage" category.


I don't know why, but for some reason I've always loved little factoids like this. Here's some additional ones that I could think of:

-The original Super Mario Bros. for the NES is older today than the first video game ever created (1958's Tennis for Two) was when SMB was released.

-"Livin' on a Prayer" by Bon Jovi is as old today as "Hound Dog" by Elvis Presley was when "Livin' on a Prayer" was released in 1986.

-Bill Clinton's Whitewater scandal is as far in the past today as Richard Nixon's Watergate scandal was back in 1995.

-Almost as much time has passed today since the airing of the first episode of Ducktales in 1987 as had passed back then since the debut of the famous "What's Opera Doc?" Bugs Bunny short in 1957.

-The first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie is as old in 2015 as The Sound of Music was in 1990.

-The year 2000 is as old today as 1969 was when Bryan Adams released the song "Summer of '69" back in 1984. :o

-The year 2000 is as old today as 1969 was when Bryan Adams released the song "Summer of '69" back in 1984. :o


That's true, but -at least to me- the time frame between 1969 and 1984 does really not look much bigger culturally than 2000-15.

The fall of the Berlin Wall happened less than 12 years before 9/11, and it's now almost 14 years since 9/11.

The reason I didn't put this thread in the 00s section is because I was wondering if you have any other examples of historical facts like this?


The time gap though does seem smaller because it was so traumatic. That day literally felt like it was the end of the world.

The time gap though does seem smaller because it was so traumatic. That day literally felt like it was the end of the world.


How old were you when it happened?

I was 5 1/2 when the attack happened! I remember the day and time period very well!! :\'(  It changed much of our world! When I first saw the planes crash I almost cried! I'll say one thing; millennials my age who were children when it happened lost apart of our innocence when that occurred!Cause I know I did! After that happened I took real life events pretty seriously;I even started watching the news more with my grandparents and 9/11 can be thanked for that!

I was 5 1/2 when the attack happened! I remember the day and time period very well!! :\'(  It changed much of our world! When I first saw the planes crash I almost cried! I'll say one thing; millennials my age who were children when it happened lost apart of our innocence when that occurred!Cause I know I did! After that happened I took real life events pretty seriously;I even started watching the news more with my grandparents and 9/11 can be thanked for that!


I didn't lose my innocence. I didn't even know about 9/11 until 2006, and by then, people were walking around as if it had never happened.

I didn't lose my innocence. I didn't even know about 9/11 until 2006, and by then, people were walking around as if it had never happened.


Agreed. I was in New York in 2006 and apart from the big hole at ground zero, 9/11 was not that present anymore as it was in the earlier 00s. Due to the memorials and the 9/11 museum (which is great BTW), I think that 9/11 is even more of a big deal now than it was in the mid-late 00s; at least in NYC.

The fall of the Berlin Wall happened less than 12 years before 9/11, and it's now almost 14 years since 9/11.

The reason I didn't put this thread in the 00s section is because I was wondering if you have any other examples of historical facts like this?


The Vietnam War is more distant from today than World War II was from Vietnam.  In fact, the Gulf War is more distant from today than the Vietnam War was to the Gulf War.

Yes, it's really strange.  I know the math is correct, but, emotionally, it doesn't seem right.

When I was a young kid during the Vietnam War, World War II always seemed like ancient history.  People telling me about it were gray haired elders and Nisei veterans.  The world it took place in was so incredibly different that it was a bit hard to imagine.  Hawaii wasn't even a state yet and the 10-story Aloha Tower was the tallest building in Honolulu.  The British Empire covered two fifths of the world's land mass.  The army, like much of the country, was segregated with Japanese Americans fighting in their own unit.  People learned the news via newsreels, radio and newspapers instead of television.  All the photographs and film clips I saw until the 1990s were black and white.  The bombers were propeller planes.

The Vietnam War, on the other hand, never quite seemed to ever "go away".  It seems every few years some geopolitical event would occur to remind us of Vietnam: Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Kuwait, 9/11, Iraq.  In every election season, a candidate's war record or incumbent's foreign policy would inevitably bring up the V-word and the D-word, like some corollary to Godwin's Law.  In between elections, there were movies and TV series or documentaries.  If that weren't enough, you have the ongoing culture wars that came from that era.

As of 2013, two grandchildren of President Tyler (1841-1845) are still alive.  President Tyler was born in 1790.

Another way to think about it: some people on this board today could have grandchildren alive in the 23rd century.  People in the 23rd century could have grandparents born before the Web.

Again, this is one of those things that really isn't surprising when you look at the math.  My father's father was born around the presidency of Millard Fillmore.  Theoretically, there could be people alive today whose great great grandfathers were born before Shakespeare.

The Vietnam War is more distant from today than World War II was from Vietnam.  In fact, the Gulf War is more distant from today than the Vietnam War was to the Gulf War.

Yes, it's really strange.  I know the math is correct, but, emotionally, it doesn't seem right.

When I was a young kid during the Vietnam War, World War II always seemed like ancient history.  People telling me about it were gray haired elders and Nisei veterans.  The world it took place in was so incredibly different that it was a bit hard to imagine.  Hawaii wasn't even a state yet and the 10-story Aloha Tower was the tallest building in Honolulu.  The British Empire covered two fifths of the world's land mass.  The army, like much of the country, was segregated with Japanese Americans fighting in their own unit.  People learned the news via newsreels, radio and newspapers instead of television.  All the photographs and film clips I saw until the 1990s were black and white.  The bombers were propeller planes.

The Vietnam War, on the other hand, never quite seemed to ever "go away".  It seems every few years some geopolitical event would occur to remind us of Vietnam: Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Kuwait, 9/11, Iraq.  In every election season, a candidate's war record or incumbent's foreign policy would inevitably bring up the V-word and the D-word, like some corollary to Godwin's Law.  In between elections, there were movies and TV series or documentaries.  If that weren't enough, you have the ongoing culture wars that came from that era.


I disagree about Vietnam never going away, unlike the Korean War even with North Korea still one of the most hostile nations outside of China. Vietnam today however is much more developed and is in a way similar to the Japan of the 1970s/80s with lots of development and potential. Its definitely in the rear view mirror just like people looked at Japan/WWII by the '70s. Today's kids may get the similar "Ancient History" feeling with Vietnam due to it being the pre-synthesizer age soundtrack, pre-PC/video game age, and back when most phones were rotary and typewriters ruled.

However, when I watch many old news broadcasts from the '80s/'90s, it is fairly common to find stories involving geopolitical tensions in the Middle East and in a way those two decades lay the foundation for what the world is today. That's also when the urge about gratification and "get rich quick" that still penetrates today became common, along with the beginnings of the redistribution of wealth to the haves and have-nots. However, back in say the '80s, most would have said the '50s/'60s as laying the foundations for the then-present (Cold War, Rock music, influence of television, fast-food and suburban culture). That said, what comes out tends to be generational as the youth establish trends, attempt to pass them on to the next generation with varying successes, while the next generation rebels against some of the trends and starts a new way of ideals. It goes back throughout most of recorded history in terms of the arts, and that is the basis towards change, rebellion, and at times jitters ranging from mild domestic violence to wars.

Others:

*Nirvana's Nevermind is now longer ago than Woodstock was when Nirvana was released.
*The beginning of WWII is now longer ago than when the end of the US Civil War as the start of WWII.
*The final Seinfeld episode is now longer ago than the first Magnum, PI was when Seinfeld ended.
*The first Spongebob episode is longer ago than the first Family Ties at the time.
*The release of Halo: Comat evolved (released just two months after 9/11) is longer ago than the release of Super Mario Bros. 3 was at a time that 8-bit games were already starting to get that "classic" tag.

And of course:

*Back to the Future is now longer ago than when Rock Around the Clock was released and started rock 'n roll to the masses.

It just shows how quickly some things push others firmly into the "vintage" category.


*1980 is now just as long ago as the end of World War II was in 1980. 35 years!

*1980 is now just as long ago as the end of World War II was in 1980. 35 years!


In the 80s, most people only in their mid-40s were able to remember WWII. I think, society in central Europe changed once those people got retired and the people who did not remember the war formed the culture.

The assassination of President Kennedy is longer ago than the start of WW1 was when he was assassinated.

I think somehow the timeline in people's minds ends in 2000, squeezing the 15 years after that into nothing.


Yeah, I wonder when people will realize that it's not 2000 anymore.

Yeah, I wonder when people will realize that it's not 2000 anymore.

IKR!!  :D

Here's more for ya!
Owen Hart's death is now longer ago than Bruiser Brody's death was then!
Kobe Bryant's NBA debut is now OFFICIALLY longer ago than Michael Jordan's debut was back in 1996!

These all came out closer to 1919 than present day:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/Velvet_Underground_and_Nico.jpg
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/list/5c60b6f07182074469636bb45da1fd26b8d2a04f.JPG
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/album_review/400f48f612f988f6f8e21714fd761dfb1d6709fb.jpg

And these were released closer to when World War I was still going on:

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/list/20121113-doors-x306-1363713306.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51hrjrVpgFL._SY300_.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/38/Bob_Dylan_-_Blonde_on_Blonde.jpg
https://devonrecordclub.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/beatles-revolver1.jpg

These are all older now than 1999 was back when they came out:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Graduation_(album).jpg
http://www.panicposters.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/250x/c2bfe4c776f72036b09a06804953f265/P/P/PP416SUPERBAD.jpg
http://www.enterpriseios.com/sites/enterpriseios.com/files/story_images/Aaron%20Freimark/24%20Sep%202013%20-%208%3A32am/iphone-1.png?1380025958
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/BioShock_cover.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/Transformers07.jpg
https://carpoolcandy.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/madmen-300x244.jpg

On the topic of 9/11, children born on September 11, 2001 are about to enter high school.

These all came out closer to 1919 than present day:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/Velvet_Underground_and_Nico.jpg
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/list/5c60b6f07182074469636bb45da1fd26b8d2a04f.JPG
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/album_review/400f48f612f988f6f8e21714fd761dfb1d6709fb.jpg

And these were released closer to when World War I was still going on:

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/list/20121113-doors-x306-1363713306.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51hrjrVpgFL._SY300_.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/38/Bob_Dylan_-_Blonde_on_Blonde.jpg
https://devonrecordclub.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/beatles-revolver1.jpg

These are all older now than 1999 was back when they came out:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Graduation_(album).jpg
http://www.panicposters.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/250x/c2bfe4c776f72036b09a06804953f265/P/P/PP416SUPERBAD.jpg
http://www.enterpriseios.com/sites/enterpriseios.com/files/story_images/Aaron%20Freimark/24%20Sep%202013%20-%208%3A32am/iphone-1.png?1380025958
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/BioShock_cover.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/Transformers07.jpg
https://carpoolcandy.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/madmen-300x244.jpg

On the topic of 9/11, children born on September 11, 2001 are about to enter high school.

Really? I thought those born in the 2000-01 school year were entering high school. and next year 2001-02 school year born would then start!

Really? I thought those born in the 2000-01 school year were entering high school. and next year 2001-02 school year born would then start!


Well, since the class cutoff is sort of blurry from summer to fall, not all kids born on 9/11 are starting high school this year, but a great deal are.  They're already teenagers, and will be turning 14 soon.

Well, since the class cutoff is sort of blurry from summer to fall, not all kids born on 9/11 are starting high school this year, but a great deal are.  They're already teenagers, and will be turning 14 soon.


Damn WTF! But then again that does make some sense. My cousin was born in early 01' and he's entering H.S this year.

I remember during the 10 year reunion of 9/11 my cousin asking me what 9/11 was. I was shocked because I just assumed that the teachers at his school taught him about it, but apparently they never did.

So I told him my experience (albeit my young experience of the event) of what happened, getting picked up from school earlier, watching the live news coverage and our tv signal shutting off when the north tower fell. I told him about some of my memories of living in NY before 9/11 and of course the immediate aftermath and kids my age drawing pictures of American flags to celebrate our pride.

Despite only Being 5 1/2 at the time, I still remember it in pretty great detail. Heck its the reason why the north tower fell is the reason my family finally decided to get cable because we were scared out of our minds that if another attack occurs that we wouldn't know whats going on if our signal goes off.

Its weird to think that my H.S Grad class, 2014, was probably the last to have physical memories of the event.

And my cousin's grad class, 2019, will be one of the first to have some members born after it. Now thats creepy...

Damn WTF! But then again that does make some sense. My cousin was born in early 01' and he's entering H.S this year.

I remember during the 10 year reunion of 9/11 my cousin asking me what 9/11 was. I was shocked because I just assumed that the teachers at his school taught him about it, but apparently they never did.

So I told him my experience (albeit my young experience of the event) of what happened, getting picked up from school earlier, watching the live news coverage and our tv signal shutting off when the north tower fell. I told him about some of my memories of living in NY before 9/11 and of course the immediate aftermath and kids my age drawing pictures of American flags to celebrate our pride.

Despite only Being 5 1/2 at the time, I still remember it in pretty great detail. Heck its the reason why the north tower fell is the reason my family finally decided to get cable because we were scared out of our minds that if another attack occurs that we wouldn't know whats going on if our signal goes off.

Its weird to think that my H.S Grad class, 2014, was probably the last to have physical memories of the event.

And my cousin's grad class, 2019, will be one of the first to have some members born after it. Now thats creepy...

I think the 2015 class might be the last to have physical memories!! Hell, even SOME 2016ers to a degree!!!!

I think the 2015 class might be the last to have physical memories!! Hell, even SOME 2016ers to a degree!!!!


True, you usually could remember as far back as age 3. So this years seniors are the last

Here are some more surprising date facts:

+ Tony Bennett's first hit single, Because of You, was released in 1951, which is as close to 1887 as it is to today, thus making it closer in age to Tchaikovsky's Sleeping Beauty and Nutcracker ballets and all but one of John Philip Sousa's marches than anything made now.  Just last year, Bennett recorded a duets album with electropop icon Lady Gaga.
+ Speaking of whom, the release of Lady Gaga's first album (August 19, 2008) is now closer to 9/11 than present day.
+ The current oldest living person, Susannah Mushatt Jones (born July 6, 1899), was born closer to the end of the American Revolutionary War (1783) than today.
+ The Nintendo 64, released in 1996, came out closer to 1978's Space Invaders than today.  Same goes with the games Crash Bandicoot and Tomb Raider.
+ The first YouTube video (April 23, 2005) was posted closer in time to the release of Windows 95 (August 24, 1995) than now.
+ As of the date of this post, the launch of Wikipedia (January 15, 2001) occurred the same amount of time after The Great Mouse Detective premiered in theaters (July 2, 1986) as before present day.

The Great Wall Street crash in fall 2008 is almost as close to 9/11 as today. 7 year stock market cycle anyone?

Thought of some more:

* Green Day's American Idiot is closer in age to Dookie than it is to today.
* Radiohead's OK Computer was released closer to Pink Floyd’s The Wall than to present day.
* The first album by The Rolling Stones came out closer to the presidency of William Howard Taft than now.
* Kanye West's The College Dropout was released closer in time to Dr. Dre's The Chronic than to present day.
* Dr. Dre's The Chronic came out closer to The Beatles' last studio album, Let It Be, than to present day.
* The movie Shrek was released closer in time to the first episode of DuckTales than today.
* Star Wars Episode I:  The Phantom Menace is closer in age to Return of the Jedi than present day.
* The Ramones' first album came out closer to blues legend Robert Johnson's studio recordings than today.
* Steamboat Willie was first shown closer in time to the lifetime of Andrew Jackson than to today.
* Joan of Arc lived closer in time to now than to the reign of Charlemagne.
* Elizabeth II became Queen of England closer to the 1888 murders by Jack the Ripper than to present day.
* The 2003 Invasion of Iraq occurred closer to the Gulf War than now.
* The first episode of The Simpsons aired closer to the final episode of The Flintstones than to the most recent episode of The Simpsons.
* The first episode of Modern Family aired closer to the final episode of Friends than to present day.
* Disney’s Tron came out closer to the original animated Cinderella than present day.
* Raiders of the Lost Ark was released in theaters closer to Miracle on 34th Street than present day.
* The Sega Dreamcast came out closer to the Atari Age than to today.

Thought of some more:

* Green Day's American Idiot is closer in age to Dookie than it is to today.
* Radiohead's OK Computer was released closer to Pink Floyd’s The Wall than to present day.
* The first album by The Rolling Stones came out closer to the presidency of William Howard Taft than now.
* Kanye West's The College Dropout was released closer in time to Dr. Dre's The Chronic than to present day.
* Dr. Dre's The Chronic came out closer to The Beatles' last studio album, Let It Be, than to present day.
* The movie Shrek was released closer in time to the first episode of DuckTales than today.
* Star Wars Episode I:  The Phantom Menace is closer in age to Return of the Jedi than present day.
* The Ramones' first album came out closer to blues legend Robert Johnson's studio recordings than today.
* Steamboat Willie was first shown closer in time to the lifetime of Andrew Jackson than to today.
* Joan of Arc lived closer in time to now than to the reign of Charlemagne.
* Elizabeth II became Queen of England closer to the 1888 murders by Jack the Ripper than to present day.
* The 2003 Invasion of Iraq occurred closer to the Gulf War than now.
* The first episode of The Simpsons aired closer to the final episode of The Flintstones than to the most recent episode of The Simpsons.
* The first episode of Modern Family aired closer to the final episode of Friends than to present day.
* Disney’s Tron came out closer to the original animated Cinderella than present day.
* Raiders of the Lost Ark was released in theaters closer to Miracle on 34th Street than present day.
* The Sega Dreamcast came out closer to the Atari Age than to today.

Some of these aren't that surprising if you think about it! ;)

Some of these aren't that surprising if you think about it! ;)


Which ones in particular?

Which ones in particular?

The first episode of Modern Family aired closer to the final episode of Friends than to present day.
The 2003 Invasion of Iraq occurred closer to the Gulf War than now.
Star Wars Episode I:  The Phantom Menace is closer in age to Return of the Jedi than present day.
The Sega Dreamcast came out closer to the Atari Age than to today.
Kanye West's The College Dropout was released closer in time to Dr. Dre's The Chronic than to present day.

Here's some hidden gems
The first dragonball manga was released close in time to Astro Boy's first manga than the present day.
The first season of One Piece was closer in time to the first season of Dragon Ball Z than the present day.

The first episode of Modern Family aired closer to the final episode of Friends than to present day.
The 2003 Invasion of Iraq occurred closer to the Gulf War than now.
Star Wars Episode I:  The Phantom Menace is closer in age to Return of the Jedi than present day.
The Sega Dreamcast came out closer to the Atari Age than to today.
Kanye West's The College Dropout was released closer in time to Dr. Dre's The Chronic than to present day.


I guess some of them aren't that surprising, but I'm still pretty shocked by the Phantom Menace, College Dropout, and Dreamcast ones.  With how much Star Wars fans contrast the quality and feel of the original Star Wars trilogy with the prequels, it just seems odd to me that Episode I came out closer to Return of the Jedi than it will to the upcoming film.  Return of the Jedi was still very much a classic, practical effects-driven movie with a timeless story and characters, and has been iconic for ages now.  On the other hand, The Phantom Menace has just as much CGI in it as any blockbuster movie made today, and like the movies of the present, feels quite distant from the "classic" age of cinema with all its mechanical elements.

I brought up the College Dropout example because that album was really the beginning of hip hop as it became today, abandoning the macho image for a more topical, cosmopolitan approach.  The fact that this "modern" rap album has now been released closer to when rap was still in its old school era, I think is at least somewhat interesting.

I think the Dreamcast one is at least a bit surprising, since that system was the first sixth generation console, so it had 3D graphics that weren't just polygons like the PS1 and N64.  It also had an online feature.  The fact that this was all made closer to when people still played games with only one screen, single-color sprites, and ultra-simplistic gameplay just goes to show how much farther gaming came during the 16 years between the Dreamcast's American release and 1983, versus the 16 years between the system's American release and today.

Here are some more surprising date facts:
+ The Nintendo 64, released in 1996, came out closer to 1978's Space Invaders than today.  Same goes with the games Crash Bandicoot and Tomb Raider.


Hey #Infinity, do you like those games? And if so, which one do you prefer?

Hey #Infinity, do you like those games? And if so, which one do you prefer?


I've never played Tomb Raider before, since my dad didn't have it for his PS1, though he did own Crash Bandicoot, which was sort of enjoyable, but still no Super Mario 64, at least for my tastes.

The 1969 moon landing is closer to the stock market crash than today.
If you were born in 1955 you are now older than Walt Disney was when Disneyland opened.
The turn of the millenium is closer to 1985 than it is to 2016.
The release of Pokemon red and blue in the United States is closer to the video game crash of 1983 than now.
1950 is closer to 1890 than 2016
The years that facebook and youtube started are closer to 1995 than today.

The 1969 moon landing is closer to the stock market crash than today.

So is the release of Pong!

The turn of the millenium is closer to 1985 than it is to 2016.

It's actually closer to 1983! 2000 was 16 years ago, and 1984 was 16 years before 2016, but since you also have to factor in months and days, the earliest parts of 2000, plus the very end of 1999 are the same distance to 1983 as now.

The release of Pokemon red and blue in the United States is closer to the video game crash of 1983 than now.

Pokémon's original Japanese release in February 1996 is now closer to 1975, during the age of Pong consoles and before the Atari 2600 had even come out!

I love to geek out on this kind of stuff. ;)

*The debut of Home Improvement is as far in the past today as the debut of Family Affair was in 1991.
*The North American launch of the Super Nintendo is further in the past today than the launch of the Magnavox Odyssey was in 1991.
*The original Super Mario Bros. video game is older today than the song "Hound Dog" by Elvis Presley was in 1985.
*The debut of the Disney Channel show Lizzie McGuire is as far in the past today as the debuts of shows like ALF and Matlock were in 2001.
*The 2000 presidential election controversy is as old today as Ronald Reagan's landslide 1984 re-election was in 2000.
*The 1976 election of the oldest living U.S. President, Jimmy Carter, is as far in the past today as the 1936 re-election of Franklin Roosevelt was in 1976.
*The debut of the original Sonic the Hedgehog is older today than Woodstock was in 1991.
*The attack on Pearl Harbor is nearly as old today as the assassination of Abraham Lincoln was in 1941.
*The Oklahoma City Bombing is as far in the past today as the resignation of Richard Nixon was in 1995.
*Kurt Cobain's death is further in the past today than Elvis Presley's was in 1994.

[quote author=#Infinity link=topic=51607.msg3423555#msg3423555 date=1463169634
Pokémon's original Japanese release in February 1996 is now closer to 1975, during the age of Pong consoles and before the Atari 2600 had even come out!

and Pongs release is closer to 1946, which is the era of ENIAC computers.
1913 is closer to the war of 1812 than 2016.
John F Kennedys assasination is closer to the sinking of the Titanic and the start of World War I than now

I love to geek out on this kind of stuff. ;)

*The debut of Home Improvement is as far in the past today as the debut of Family Affair was in 1991.
*The North American launch of the Super Nintendo is further in the past today than the launch of the Magnavox Odyssey was in 1991.
*The original Super Mario Bros. video game is older today than the song "Hound Dog" by Elvis Presley was in 1985.
*The debut of the Disney Channel show Lizzie McGuire is as far in the past today as the debuts of shows like ALF and Matlock were in 2001.
*The 2000 presidential election controversy is as old today as Ronald Reagan's landslide 1984 re-election was in 2000.
*The 1976 election of the oldest living U.S. President, Jimmy Carter, is as far in the past today as the 1936 re-election of Franklin Roosevelt was in 1976.
*The debut of the original Sonic the Hedgehog is older today than Woodstock was in 1991.
*The attack on Pearl Harbor is nearly as old today as the assassination of Abraham Lincoln was in 1941.
*The Oklahoma City Bombing is as far in the past today as the resignation of Richard Nixon was in 1995.
*Kurt Cobain's death is further in the past today than Elvis Presley's was in 1994.


Fun stuff! :D To add to those you listed, here are some more that I thought of:

* Dr. Dre's The Chronic was released closer in time to when the original Woodstock concert took place in 1969 than to present day.
* Pong first came out closer in time to the Stock Market Crash of 1929 than to today.
* The premiere of Breaking Bad was closer to the 90s than to today.
* The first iPhone is as old now as the original MacBook from 1998 was back when the iPhone originally came out.
* 50 Cent's Get Rich or Die Tryin' came out closer to the 1980s than to today.
* H.G. Wells wrote War of the Worlds closer to the American Revolutionary War than to today.
* Super Mario Sunshine is as old now as the American Super Mario Bros. 2 was when Super Mario Sunshine came out.
* The first single by the Beatles, "Love Me Do," came out closer to the presidency of Teddy Roosevelt than to present day.
* Def Leppard's Pyromania came out closer to the 1940s than to today.
* Pixar's Luxo Jr. was first shown closer to the premiere of What's Opera, Doc? than to today.
* The song "Rhythm Is a Dancer" by Snap was released as a single closer to when the Rolling Stones released "Jumpin' Jack Flash" than to today.
* 9/11 is now closer not just to the fall of the Berlin Wall, but also the Iran-Contra scandal, as well.
* "Rapper's Delight" became a hit closer to World War II's D-Day than to today.
* Napster was launched closer to when vinyl was still the most popular music format than to present day.
* The 2003 incarnation of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles premiered closer to the release of the first live action TMNT film from 1990 than to today.

The most tumultuous year recorded on earth, 1968 and my dads birthyear is now closer to 1920 than 2016.
People who were 20 years old when 9/11 happened are now nearly 35-36.
The Class of 1998 is now closer in age to the Class of 1981 than the Class of 2016.
Millennials are larger than Baby Boomers now.
I was born right when Santana's Smooth started its #1 run on the Hot 100. :)

Now 9/11 is longer ago than the Wall Street '87 crash, U2's The Joshua Tree, the first episode of Full House, and Dirty Dancing.

Now 9/11 is longer ago than the Wall Street '87 crash, U2's The Joshua Tree, the first episode of Full House, and Dirty Dancing.


In just less than a week, it'll be as close to today as it is to the end of 1986.

People who turned 18 in 1994 turn 40 this year. By the end of the 2010s those born who were before WW 2 and still alive will be over 80 years old.
People born before 1988 were born closer to the Vietnam War than the 2003. Everyone born in 1991 and before is older than the internet
Most Baby Boomers were adults when Pong came out.
If a female born in 1981 had a baby in 1996. That baby is old enough to be a mother and the female born in 1981 is old enough to be a grandma.

People who turned 18 in 1994 turn 40 this year. By the end of the 2010s those born who were before WW 2 and still alive will be over 80 years old.
People born before 1988 were born closer to the Vietnam War than the 2003. Everyone born in 1991 and before is older than the internet
Most Baby Boomers were adults when Pong came out.
If a female born in 1981 had a baby in 1996. That baby is old enough to be a mother and the female born in 1981 is old enough to be a grandma.

You just described a famous youtuber, Jess Lizama! :o :D

Another SCARY one. Magic Johnson's and Larry Bird's rivalry in the NBA is now closer in time to Wilt chamberlain and Bill Russell's rivalry than the present day NBA. MINDBLOWING! :D

The other day I realised something that made me feel a bit old: my birth year (1991) is closer to the moon landings than the present day!

The other day I realised something that made me feel a bit old: my birth year (1991) is closer to the moon landings than the present day!


Another way to look at it: the album Nevermind by Nirvana is as old today as Pet Sounds by The Beach Boys was in 1991. :o

Pokémon Red and Blue are as old now as 1975 was back when they were first released in Japan as Red and Green. Gold and Silver were released halfway back from now to 1983. Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire were released closer to 1989 than to today, and Pokémon Diamond and Pearl came out closer to 1996 than to now. This is going by each generation's respective original Japanese release dates, of course, except for Ruby & Sapphire, whose American release is also as close to today as it is to 1989.

My first day of preschool is closer to when my parents first met than the present day..... :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Damn I'm getting old! ;D

1995 is closer to 1976 the year of the bicentennial than it is to 2016.
Everyone who is now under 13 has no memory of a time when YouTube, or Facebook did not exist.
The youngest people driving In 2016 are the first people born in the 2000s to drive.

My first day of preschool is closer to when my parents first met than the present day..... :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Damn I'm getting old! ;D


My first days of preschool took place closer to when both of my parents were still in high school than to today! :o

1995 is closer to 1976 the year of the bicentennial than it is to 2016.
Everyone who is now under 13 has no memory of a time when YouTube, or Facebook did not exist.
The youngest people driving In 2016 are the first people born in the 2000s to drive.


Unless you lived in states like New York, where you have to be 17 in order to drive. You could probably be 16 and get a learner's permit, but that's about it.

The invasion of Iraq in March 2003 is closer to the start of the 90s than the present day. I think it's about to be closer to the fall of the Berlin Wall as well!

The invasion of Iraq in March 2003 is closer to the start of the 90s than the present day.

Honestly it's not that surprising. The 90s were still recent then, now... not so much! ;D

The 20th century is slipping away from our hands!!!  :(  8)

Honestly it's not that surprising. The 90s were still recent then, now... not so much! ;D


The start of the 90s still had a heavily late 80s atmosphere though, aside from The Simpons being on television and house music becoming popular in the United States. Still, it's pretty amazing that it's now as close to today as it is to the fall of the Berlin Wall, as Catherine stated!

The fall of the Berlin Wall is as close to the Cuban missile crisis as it is to now.

The fall of the Berlin Wall is as close to the Cuban missile crisis as it is to now.


Good Grief! :o

I just realized something. My birth is closer to when my Mom was in middle school than the present day.... :o :o :o :( :( :(
Lordy Jesus!!!! :D

I just realized something. My birth is closer to when my Mom was in middle school than the present day.... :o :o :o :( :( :(
Lordy Jesus!!!! :D


Wow. I guess she had you really young.

Wow. I guess she had you really young.

Actually, she was 30 when she had me; since she was born in 1965...
Her middle school days were in the late 70s. The late 70s were only 16-18 years old in 1995. 1995 to now on the other hand is 21 years old.... :o :o :o

Actually, she was 30 when she had me; since she was born in 1965...
Her middle school days were in the late 70s. The late 70s were only 16-18 years old in 1995. 1995 to now on the other hand is 21 years old.... :o :o :o


Huh. That seems interesting to know.

My first day of preschool is closer to when my parents first met than the present day..... :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Damn I'm getting old! ;D


Your post just made me realize that my first day of preschool is closer to the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy in 1968 than it is to the present day! :o

Also, the day I was born is now closer to 1959 than it is to 2016. :o :o

Sorry to bump an old topic, but as time passes by, more and more of these trivial milestones are met, so I figured I'd bring it up again! Here are some more to add:

* Shrek was released closer to The Black Cauldron than to present day.
* The release of Wii Sports is closer to that of Donkey Kong Country 3 for the SNES than to today.
* The iPhone first came out closer to 1997 than to today.
* Twitter was first launched closer to the release of Windows 95 than to the present day.
* Facebook was launched closer to the dissolution of the USSR than to today.
* Myspace was launched closer to the 1980s than to today.
* Family Guy debuted on television closer to the premiere of The Smurfs than to the most recent episode of Family Guy.
* George Michael's Faith was released closer to The Day the Music Died than to the day George Michael died.
* Jurassic Park's theatrical release is now the same distance from the original Woodstock festival in 1969 as it is from today.
* The year 1990 is closer to the JFK Assassination than it is to today.
* Lady Gaga's The Fame was released closer to the 1990s than to the present day.
* The original animated Beauty and the Beast was released closer to when Walt Disney was still alive than to the release of the live action remake.

I'll give my take.

*The start of WW2 in 1939 is as close to the start of the Civil War in 1861 to now.
*World War I is as close to The War of 1812 than is today.
*The release of Toy Story and Oklahoma city bombings in 1995 is as close to the oil crisis than today.
*9/11 is as close to the release of Back To The Future than to present.
*The release of Star Wars is as close to the Hindenburg Disaster than to now.
*The Summer of Love and the release of The Beatle's Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club in 1967 is as close to the American entry into WW1 to now.
*Disco Demolition Night is as close to the attack on Pearl Harbor than to now.
*The release of Ferris Bueller's Day Off film in 1986 is as close to the release of Rebel Without a Cause in 1955.

Here's my take:

1. The Great Pyramid was older to the Romans than the Romans are to us.
2. The Stegosaurus was older to the Tyrannosaurus rex than the T. rex is to us.
3. The 10th president of the United States has two grandchildren who are alive today.
4. Oxford University is older than the Aztec civilization.
5. Harvard University was founded before Isaac Newton published his laws of motion and gravity.
6. We made it to the moon only 66 years after the Wright brothers invented human flight.
7. Woolly mammoths were still alive when the Great Pyramid at Giza was built.
8. The Ottoman Empire still existed when Paramount Studios was founded.
9. Will Smith is now older than James Avery (Uncle Phil) was when Fresh Prince of Bel-Air started.
10. If they made a That '90s Show and waited the same amount of time after the '90s as That '70s Show waited after the '70s, the show would be made in 2017.
11. The Eiffel Tower was inaugurated for the 1889 World's Fair the same year Nintendo was founded.
12. Anne Frank, Martin Luther King Jr., and Barbara Walters were all born in the same year.
13. Some of the world's whales that are alive today were born before Moby Dick was written.
14. Everything you see happened in the past, not the present.

I'll give my take.

*The start of WW2 in 1939 is as close to the start of the Civil War in 1861 to now.
*World War I is as close to The War of 1812 than is today.
*The release of Toy Story and Oklahoma city bombings in 1995 is as close to the oil crisis than today.
*9/11 is as close to the release of Back To The Future than to present.
*The release of Star Wars is as close to the Hindenburg Disaster than to now.
*The Summer of Love and the release of The Beatle's Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club in 1967 is as close to the American entry into WW1 to now.
*Disco Demolition Night is as close to the attack on Pearl Harbor than to now.
*The release of Ferris Bueller's Day Off film in 1986 is as close to the release of Rebel Without a Cause in 1955.


Actually, some of those you listed aren't yet true because you're going simply by the year each event happened, not the day. Since we're not very far into 2017 yet, events that occurred towards the end of a particular year aren't necessarily equidistant to older things by counting the year alone. For example, 9/11 is still closer to the present than it is to the release of Back to the Future and actually all of 1985. As of the date I'm writing this post, 9/11 is halfway back to February 17, 1986 (or the 16th, depending on where you live), so a better comparison would be that it's chronologically closer to the release of Pretty in Pink (February 28, 1986) than to today. In a few weeks, the September 11th attacks will be as close to the present as they will be to the Challenger Disaster, and finally, four weeks after that, they'll be closer to part of 1985 than to today.

There is only 1 person born in the 1800s left on earth.

In the next 30 years the number of people born in the 2000s will eventually outnumber the number of people born in the 1900s.

The fall of the Soviet Union is closer to the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia than the 2014 Annexation of Crimea by Russia

Elvis Presley's Jailhouse Rock song is just as old this year as John Sousa ' s Stars and Forever was in 1957

1980 is closer to 1945 than it is to 2017

Windows Xp is closer in age to Windows 3.0 than to Windows 10
Star Wars release in 1977 is closer to the 1939 release Wizard of Oz than the 2017 version of Beauty and the Beast

The first Looneytunes cartoon is as old today as Edgar Allan Poe ' s the Tell Tale Heart was in 1930

Actually, some of those you listed aren't yet true because you're going simply by the year each event happened, not the day. Since we're not very far into 2017 yet, events that occurred towards the end of a particular year aren't necessarily equidistant to older things by counting the year alone. For example, 9/11 is still closer to the present than it is to the release of Back to the Future and actually all of 1985. As of the date I'm writing this post, 9/11 is halfway back to February 17, 1986 (or the 16th, depending on where you live), so a better comparison would be that it's chronologically closer to the release of Pretty in Pink (February 28, 1986) than to today. In a few weeks, the September 11th attacks will be as close to the present as they will be to the Challenger Disaster, and finally, four weeks after that, they'll be closer to part of 1985 than to today.

Isn't that a bit OCD?

There was an old commercial I saw on YouTube (I don't remember what for) from back in the late '80s obviously targeting Boomer childhood nostalgia that asked "Do you remember growing up in 1960?" It came out around 1987 or 1988.

If such an ad were made exactly thirty years later, it would say "Do you remember growing up in 1990?" and it would be targeted at people my age!

-The beginning of the cultural 90's (following the commercial breakthrough of grunge) in autumn 1991 will be as close to the escalation of the Vietnam war in the summer of 1965 this year.

-The human-be in festival in January 1967 (the beginning of the hippie movement) is as close to the tragic battle of Somme in July 1916 during WWI.

-The beginning of the Blitz (German air-raid bombing over Britain) on September 7, 1940 is almost as close to the battle of Gettysburg in 1863.

-The late 1920s are as close to the commercial breakthrough of photography in the early 1840's.

-The space shuttle challenger disaster is as close to the day Elvis recorded "That's Alright Mama" on July 5, 1954 (considered to be the day rock and roll was born)

-the release of Empire Strikes Back is as close to Operation Husky (invasion of Italy) in 1943.

-My birth of June 22, 1998 is as close to the end of disco's popularity and rise of new wave in 1979.

-My birth of June 22, 1998 is as close to the end of disco's popularity and rise of new wave in 1979.

Woah :o....I thought you were much older than that. I was born July 13, 1999...so you're a year older than me.

My birth is closer to 1982 FIFA World Cup than the (current) 2017 FIFA Confederations Cup and the 2018 FIFA World Cup :o.

Woah :o....I thought you were much older than that. I was born July 13, 1999...so you're a year older than me.

My birth is closer to 1982 FIFA World Cup than the (current) 2017 FIFA Confederations Cup and the 2018 FIFA World Cup :o.


And you know something else about June 22...Look at the calendar  ::)

And you know something else about June 22...Look at the calendar  ::)

Your birthday is tomorrow ;). Happy early 19th birthday!.

Your birthday is tomorrow ;). Happy early 19th birthday!.


Where I am it already is June 22.

Where I am it already is June 22.

Oh snap...I forgot that you're from the UK. You guys are 5 hours ahead of where I live (NYC)...so it's 2:12 am over there. HAPPY 19TH BIRTHDAY! :).

And you know something else about June 22...Look at the calendar  ::)


Happy birthday!  :D

* The first Michael Bay Transformers movie was released closer to James Cameron's Titanic than to Transformers: The Last Knight. It's almost as old now as Men in Black and Batman and Robin were when it first hit theaters.

* The 1981 synthpop cover of Lesley Gore's "It's My Party" by Dave Stewart and Barbara Gaskin is roughly twice as old today as the original was back when the remake came out.

* Smosh's Pokémon Theme Music Video was uploaded to YouTube closer to the OJ Simpson Bronco chase in 1994 than to Anthony Padilla's departure from Smosh in 2017.

* "Crank That (Soulja Boy)" was released approximately as close to today as it was to the murder of the Notorious B.I.G.

* The first episode of the Angry Video Game Nerd (Castlevania II: Simon's Quest) was made closer to the release of Battletoads for the NES than to today.

* The Lehman Brothers bankruptcy, the definitive moment of the Great Recession, occurred closer to the Y2K panic than to today.

* Kurt Cobain committed suicide closer to the passing of Jim Morrison than to the death of Chris Cornell.

* The Matrix was released to theaters closer to the presidency of Jimmy Carter than to today.

* The Big Bang Theory premiered on television closer to the finale of Family Matters than to the most recent episode of The Big Bang Theory.

* The Backstreet Boys' first song, "We've Got It Goin' On," came out closer to 1973 than to today.

* N.W.A.'s song "Straight Outta Compton" first came out closer to Bobby Darin's "Mack the Knife" than to today.


And you know something else about June 22...Look at the calendar  ::)


Happy Birthday!

HAPPY 19TH BIRTHDAY! :).


Happy birthday!  :D


Happy Birthday!


Thanks

Where I am it already is June 22.


Happy birthday.  :)

Happy birthday.  :)


thanks mate

thanks mate
Happy birthday to you!

You must be up early?

You must be up early?


Yeah, I have a really weird sleeping pattern. I usually sleep all morning and then stay up until 4-5am, which means I usually only get 6 hours sleep a day.

Yeah, I have a really weird sleeping pattern. I usually sleep all morning and then stay up until 4-5am, which means I usually only get 6 hours sleep a day.
As long as you are healthy with it?

Michael Jackson's death is closer in time to 9/11 than the present day :/

The beginning of Obamacare is closer in time to the beginning of the Iraq war than the present day.

The member's of Spice Girls are all in their 40s
Queen Victoria ' s death in 1901 is closer to the French Revolution than it is to the birth of Prince George in 2013
By January 1st 2018 everyone born in the 90s will legally be adults
The release of the Playstation 2 in 2000 is closer to the release of the NES in 1985 than it is to the release of theNintendo Switch this year
The first episode of the tv show I love Lucy came out closer to the first silent film Roundhay Garden Scene than to today

The release of the Playstation 2 in 2000 is closer to the release of the NES in 1985 than it is to the release of the Nintendo Switch this year


http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tim-and-eric-mind-blown.gif

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tim-and-eric-mind-blown.gif


That fact that the PS2 is now 17 years old is mind blowing on its own. By the time the PS4 comes out the PS2 will become the dusty old grandpa of the PS2 family.

That fact that the PS2 is now 17 years old is mind blowing on its own. By the time the PS4 comes out the PS2 will become the dusty old grandpa of the PS2 family.
You mean PS5 right? I heard it supposed to be released around the end of next year.

You mean PS5 right? I heard it supposed to be released around the end of next year.

Really? That early? They should wait until at least 2020.

That fact that the PS2 is now 17 years old is mind blowing on its own. By the time the PS4 comes out the PS2 will become the dusty old grandpa of the PS2 family.

You mean the PS5...unless you don't know that the PS4 exists :o.

Really? That early? They should wait until at least 2020.
I agree, but by the time the PS5 is out the it would be 7 years with the PS4 which was the same amount of time with the PS3.

That fact that the PS2 is now 17 years old is mind blowing on its own. By the time the PS5 comes out the PS2 will become the dusty old grandpa of the PS2 family.

Fixed it for you ;).

And yeah I agree, I vividly remember getting a PS2 in Christmas of 2003 (it came with a PS2 Underground Demo Disc & a copy of ATV OffRoad Fury 2). Its gonna come to a point in which the PS2 is going to be considered retro, most likely around when the PS5 comes out, and I don't think I can handle that.



Really? That early? They should wait until at least 2020.


2020 is a tad bit too late as the PS4 would be incredibly dated by that point. I'd personally prefer it to be released in 2018, but that'd piss off people who bought the Pro (FYI I got my PS4 on launch day, so I wouldn't mind if it came out next year). I think PS5 would probably be released in 2019, as it would be 6 years between the PS5 & PS4, which is about the general average for most console generations.

I agree, but by the time the PS5 is out the it would be 7 years with the PS4 which was the same amount of time with the PS3.

...and that's how I think it should be, IMO.

2020 is a tad bit too late as the PS4 would be incredibly dated by that point. I'd personally prefer it to be released in 2018, but that'd piss off people who bought the Pro (FYI I got my PS4 on launch day, so I wouldn't mind if it came out next year). I think PS5 would probably be released in 2019, as it would be 6 years between the PS5 & PS4, which is about the general average for most console generations.

2019 is fine but I don't think next year should be even considered.

2020 would be great in my opinion because Sony could reveal the PS5 at the 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo and that would be EPIC! Then, just release it some time in Q4 2020.

2019 is fine but I don't think next year should be even considered.

2020 would be great in my opinion because Sony could reveal the PS5 at the 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo and that would be EPIC! Then, just release it some time in Q4 2020.


That would be badass 8).

That would be badass 8).

Yep 8).

That fact that the PS2 is now 17 years old is mind blowing on its own. By the time the PS4 comes out the PS2 will become the dusty old grandpa of the PS2 family.

:o The fact that the graphics on an average PS2 game,other than the lack of HD are more like the graphics of the average PS4 game than those of an average Nes game or even an average Snes game blows my mind. It's crazy how fast time has gone.

My birth is closer to the administration of Dwight Eisenhower than it is the administration of Donald Trump.

My birth is closer to the administration of Dwight Eisenhower than it is the administration of Donald Trump.


Has it been like that for about three years now?

Has it been like that for about three years now?


Yes, 2014 would've been the last year where the current administration was closer to my birth than Dwight Eisenhower's.

And by 2022, Harry Truman's administration will be closer to my birth than the current administration.

Also, by the 2024 Olympics, the 1952 Olympics will be closer to my birth.

Babies born on 9/11/01 are now sophomores in high school.

Babies born on 9/11/01 are now sophomores in high school.
And juniors. Not all states have a September 1st cutoff. ;)

Yes, 2014 would've been the last year where the current administration was closer to my birth than Dwight Eisenhower's.

And by 2022, Harry Truman's administration will be closer to my birth than the current administration.

Also, by the 2024 Olympics, the 1952 Olympics will be closer to my birth.


The 1984 Olympics are closer to my birth than the 2020 Olympics :o

1990 my birth year is closer to the 1964 Olympics than the 2020 Olympics and it's closer to the 1984 Olympics than the 2000 Olympics.
Politically 1990 is closer to the early 1960s than it is to the late 2010s. Both the early 1960s and 1990 have the Cold War in common and both were in a time where Muslim Terrorist were not really seen as a threat.

Politically 1990 is closer to the early 1960s than it is to the late 2010s. Both the early 1960s and 1990 have the Cold War in common and both were in a time where Muslim Terrorist were not really seen as a threat.


1990 did not have the Cold War, the Berlin Wall had already collapsed. It did have Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait.

1990 did not have the Cold War, the Berlin Wall had already collapsed. It did have Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait.

Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about, lol.

1990 did not have the Cold War, the Berlin Wall had already collapsed. It did have Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait.

In 1990 The Soviet Union still existed, Lithuania re - declared it's independence in March and Germany was reunited in October 1990. It wasn't till December 1991 when Gorbachev resigned as leader and The Council of Republics of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR recognized the dissolution of the Soviet Union and decided to dissolve itself.that the Soviet Union ceased to exist and the Cold War ended.

In 1990 The Soviet Union still existed, Lithuania re - declared it's independence in March and Germany was reunited in October 1990. It wasn't till December 1991 when Gorbachev resigned as leader and The Council of Republics of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR recognized the dissolution of the Soviet Union and decided to dissolve itself.that the Soviet Union ceased to exist and the Cold War ended.


The dissolution of the USSR is not the same thing as the end of the Cold War. If that were the case, then the Cold War must have started in 1922. Even though it took a couple of years for the Eastern Bloc states to separate from the Kremlin, the ideological war between the United States and the Soviets that began at the end of World War II was already officially over.

The next event relevant to the thread title will be the rediscovery of the RMS Titanic at the beginning of September 1985, which is next week. It's now also older than the premiere of The Golden Girls and the launch of the Nintendo Entertainment System in North America. Compared to even last year, I've noticed that the "We will never forget" mantra of the attack on the anniversary isn't quite like what it used to be (especially prior to the death of Bin Laden), especially now that it isn't unlike the high schoolers of the late 1950s who had no memory of Pearl Harbor and just viewed the present as a rowdy time (they're most concerned about tech once again).

The dissolution of the USSR is not the same thing as the end of the Cold War. If that were the case, then the Cold War must have started in 1922. Even though it took a couple of years for the Eastern Bloc states to separate from the Kremlin, the ideological war between the United States and the Soviets that began at the end of World War II was already officially over.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

1991 was the end of the Cold War. It was a power game between the two superpowers, the U.S & the USSR. Once the USSR officially ceased to exist, the war ended, thus allowing the U.S to becoming the sole superpower.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

1991 was the end of the Cold War. It was a power game between the two superpowers, the U.S & the USSR. Once the USSR officially ceased to exist, the war ended, thus allowing the U.S to becoming the sole superpower.


The same article states that historians don't totally agree with the specific boundaries, that it's a matter of perspective. In my view, the period after the fall of the Berlin Wall was not concretely part of the conflict as it related to the rivalry between the United States and Soviet Union.

The same article states that historians don't totally agree with the specific boundaries, that it's a matter of perspective. In my view, the period after the fall of the Berlin Wall was not concretely part of the conflict as it related to the rivalry between the United States and Soviet Union.


Touche. I do agree that the Berlin Wall collapsing was a symbolic end to the Cold War. After that mediator between the values of Western Europe & Eastern Europe ceased to exist, it only exacerbated the inevitable fall of the Soviets.

My birth is as close to the end of the Vietnam War as the present day

Here's one that will blow everyone's mind. In a couple of months the debut of Lady Gaga will be closer to the debut of Britney Spears!!