In the book "How to Survive a Pandemic" by Michael Greger (you should really read it, even if you don't believe it I think it's good to read something that challenges your beliefs and is based on evidence), it says injecting mice with resvervatrol, a substance found in grapes, had an anti-viral effect (2). However this was through injection and in multiple large doses(3), which would be equivalent to drinking 4 gallons of red wine for humans(4).

1. Herskovits B. 2005. Popeyes, KFC forge plans in case of bird flu outbreak. PR Week, November 11. prweek.com/us/thisissue/article/527525/popeyes-kfc-forge-plans-case-bird-flu-outbreak.

2. Palamara AT, Nencioni L, Aquilano K, et al.
Journal of Infectious Diseases 191(10):1719–29.

3. Walle T, Hsieh F, DeLegge MH, Oatis JE Jr, Walle UK. High absorption but very low bioavailability of oral resveratrol in humans.
dmd.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/32/12/1377


4. Roy H, Lundy S. 2005. Resveratrol. Pennington Nutrition Series: Number 7. www.pbrc.edu/education/pdf/PNS_resveratrol.pdf.

Let's have a look at Newsmax on Wikipedia:
(Bold parts highlighted by me)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsmax

Sounds super trustworthy again...


There are 100's of Grape Seed Info links from those from the founder in France to all t he companies who sell it worldwide......   

I don't know what your trustworthy comment means.....

In the book "How to Survive a Pandemic" by Michael Greger (you should really read it, even if you don't believe it I think it's good to read something that challenges your beliefs and is based on evidence), it says injecting mice with resvervatrol, a substance found in grapes, had an anti-viral effect (2). However this was through injection and in multiple large doses(3), which would be equivalent to drinking 4 gallons of red wine for humans(4).

1. Herskovits B. 2005. Popeyes, KFC forge plans in case of bird flu outbreak. PR Week, November 11. prweek.com/us/thisissue/article/527525/popeyes-kfc-forge-plans-case-bird-flu-outbreak.

2. Palamara AT, Nencioni L, Aquilano K, et al.
Journal of Infectious Diseases 191(10):1719–29.

3. Walle T, Hsieh F, DeLegge MH, Oatis JE Jr, Walle UK. High absorption but very low bioavailability of oral resveratrol in humans.
dmd.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/32/12/1377


4. Roy H, Lundy S. 2005. Resveratrol. Pennington Nutrition Series: Number 7. www.pbrc.edu/education/pdf/PNS_resveratrol.pdf.


Resveratrol came on the scene maybe 10-15 yrs ago AFTER grape seed extract which arrived in my life over 25 yrs ago..  I could write my own book on my life with this great Grape supplement....

I have NOT been asleep at the wheel of my life and actively working to keep  healthy,,,,

My problem with this is you sometimes sound like you are blaming people for not looking after themselves if they get cancer.

Well, I believe my son in law  MIGHT be alive today, if he had started on Grape Seed Ex back in 80's when I tried to get him to take it.  And yes I believe we can do so much to prevent diseases, and even the arthritis I live with too much sugar and carbs for most of my life......

There are  handfuls of people in the world who work on prevention, but most DO NOT.

And timing and being at the right place and having open minds,,,

And Karen, I happened to be at a lecture back in 1995 and I was 57 and the docs and researchers said a tiny bit of the info I'm posting about cancer prevention.

I believe if a person was posting this information and it was news to my ears, I would do my own bit of research and "get on it"....Who wants cancer?????

If  not for members here, you must have older people in your lives and besides Cancer, Heart and Dementia are the other biggies that are dreaded...I'm on other groups with Caregivers and the stories of dementia issues, are tragic. 

The mind is an awful thing to lose and I thank Grape SEEDS for help in this area.                                 

https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/articles/can-you-prevent-dementia-with-grape-seed-extract

Best thing for your brain is to get good sleep. :D

Anyway this has the same problem as the other studies where they're conducted on tiny rodents that receive a quantity of grape juice that would be impractical for humans to consume daily, once you compare a mouse's size/weight vs. ours.

Best thing for your brain is to get good sleep. :D

Anyway this has the same problem as the other studies where they're conducted on tiny rodents that receive a quantity of grape juice that would be impractical for humans to consume daily, once you compare a mouse's size/weight vs. ours.


Exactly, it's always good to get a normal amount of sleep to fight colds.

The problem is you don’t know the health history of people on here (or that of their close relatives). You are inadvertently upsetting people by implying that all cases of cancer can be prevented.

Exactly, it's always good to get a normal amount of sleep to fight colds.


Imma pre-empt @jaminhealth here and say it's important to take zinc losenges at the onset of cold symptoms, it makes the symptoms a lot less severe.

I really like grape juice, especially after its fermented.  Guarapo is also really good, especially after it ages for a few days

I really like grape juice, especially after its fermented.  Guarapo is also really good, especially after it ages for a few days


Purple grape juice in particular is helpful in the prevention of heart attacks. One has to be careful with it though because it is high in sugar even though it's natural fruit sugar.

I don't count on the juices, they all contain added sugars more than others...

The problem is you don’t know the health history of people on here (or that of their close relatives). You are inadvertently upsetting people by implying that all cases of cancer can be prevented.


You are correct, I know of no one's health info here as there is NO health group and that is rather unfortunate....I'm a member of others and have been for some yrs....Health is #1 in my life and I love learning and sharing all I've learned with others who want to learn also, otherwise they have options, don't read my info....simple...

And truth be known almost everyone living has some health issues/concerns, young and old.

Good REM sleep is an absolute and some of you here and millions in the world don't get that elusive good sleep.  REM sleep produces human growth hormone also which starts depleting as we age....

I believe since millions stare at monitors for hours, sleep is fleeting them more than ever. And I've been hearing and reading this info for a long time.

I now turn off my computer at 8PM or so and feel good about it.  And I don't stare at it all day, do my off and on routine...  Yeah, I know many have jobs that require 8+ hrs of constant use.

Imma pre-empt @jaminhealth here and say it's important to take zinc losenges at the onset of cold symptoms, it makes the symptoms a lot less severe.


Yep, and I take a zinc/copper capsule daily  now especially since covid.  Trump is about the only politician  out there who talked about zinc months ago. 

There is no health group because that is not the purpose of these boards.

They were originally set up to discuss the 1980s and expanded to talk about music, fashion, lifestyles etc throughout the various decades.

Such a great community developed that extra sections were added to enable general discussions about what is happening in our personal lives and to have jokes and play games. The section (Tenacious Tuxedo Talk) came about after a request from members to have an area to discuss more serious topics, that people would respect and not try to derail the conversation.

There are various threads on here loosely about people’s health, mainly dieting and exercise, for people to offer support and sympathy. It is support people want and get, not lectures, or being told they are wrong.

Purple grape juice in particular is helpful in the prevention of heart attacks. One has to be careful with it though because it is high in sugar even though it's natural fruit sugar.


grape juice also has vitamins too.

Good REM sleep is an absolute and some of you here and millions in the world don't get that elusive good sleep.  REM sleep produces human growth hormone also which starts depleting as we age....

I believe since millions stare at monitors for hours, sleep is fleeting them more than ever. And I've been hearing and reading this info for a long time.

I now turn off my computer at 8PM or so and feel good about it.  And I don't stare at it all day, do my off and on routine...  Yeah, I know many have jobs that require 8+ hrs of constant use.


How much sleep do you get, JH?

I really like grape juice, especially after its fermented.  Guarapo is also really good, especially after it ages for a few days


You guys missed the point ;)

grape juice also has vitamins too.


Minute if any, but plenty of sugars and cancer cells thrive in sugar environment.

Do some research, Howard....Knowledge is power.

How much sleep do you get, JH?


8-10 good dreamy hours....Still wake  up stiff but that's my arthritic body at 82 yrs of doing life....

You guys missed the point ;)


Not sure what Guarapo is but we are having a nice Malbec tonight

There is no health group because that is not the purpose of these boards.

They were originally set up to discuss the 1980s and expanded to talk about music, fashion, lifestyles etc throughout the various decades.

Such a great community developed that extra sections were added to enable general discussions about what is happening in our personal lives and to have jokes and play games. The section (Tenacious Tuxedo Talk) came about after a request from members to have an area to discuss more serious topics, that people would respect and not try to derail the conversation.

There are various threads on here loosely about people’s health, mainly dieting and exercise, for people to offer support and sympathy. It is support people want and get, not lectures, or being told they are wrong.


I didn't know the nature of the formation of this group, but I do now, thanks.... And it's evolved into many other topics, that is a good thing.  And everyone has health good and bad and I'm certain all my years of dancing only helped push me into advanced arthritis....but I had fun.    Good old YMCA group...and so many others.

Can grape seeds also fight small colds too, JH?

8-10 good dreamy hours....Still wake  up stiff but that's my arthritic body at 82 yrs of doing life....


I get between 6-8 hours and sometimes when I'm watching something on the computer a few hours later I get small "jerk awakes" which means I nod off for a second then I get conscious enough to wake up, maybe I'm not getting enough sleep?  ???

I get between 6-8 hours and sometimes when I'm watching something on the computer a few hours later I get small "jerk awakes" which means I nod off for a second then I get conscious enough to wake up, maybe I'm not getting enough sleep?  ???


Well  Howard good chance too much computer viewing....lots of info on this world and sleep deprivation.  I now turn my computer off about 8PM or so....

You are young my friend and can start to change things early in your life....I have a sleep combo I use for my good sleep and in it is 1mg or less of Melatonin and Calms Forte' tablet and a couple  other things, and my sleep got messed up when I was mid 50's after menopause....and I deal with a lot of arthritic pain. 

At your age I was out dancing at the clubs.....I guess not much of that going on these years.....loved my disco life....

Howard, you may never get colds again....I have NOT had a cold in about 30 yrs...

I really get "fear" vibes here on taking Grape Seed Extract.


I MUST SAY, IF ONE TAKES A PHARMA BLOOD THINNER THEN CAN'T TAKE BOTH./......

Grape Seed Extract cleans and thins the blood.

Howard, you may never get colds again....I have NOT had a cold in about 30 yrs...

I really get "fear" vibes here on taking Grape Seed Extract.


I MUST SAY, IF ONE TAKES A PHARMA BLOOD THINNER THEN CAN'T TAKE BOTH./......

Grape Seed Extract cleans and thins the blood.


Good to know because I take aspirin as a blood thinner. It helps me because I’ve had several DVT blood clots starting 8 years ago.

For me, I see it as an anti blood clotter..

Now my good friend who attended the lecture we heard in 1995, she's been taking Grape Seed Extract for probably 20 yrs or so, but had to stop as she was hit with afib about 5 yrs ago and is now taking a bunch of pharma heart drugs one of which is blood thinner.  She's not a happy camper but the afib hit her...and I believe she was not taking her magnesium for years to keep the heart working good.....    I've been taking good amounts  of magnesium for years for joint issues and keeps my system moving....good with my sleep routine too.

Wagonman:  Just occurred to me, you could be deficient in magnesium, or low, millions are.      Here is some info on the subject:

https://drcarolyndean.com/2013/07/magnesium-blood-clots/

https://healthfully.com/magnesium-and-blood-clots-6417617.html

Wagonman:  Just occurred to me, you could be deficient in magnesium, or low, millions are.      Here is some info on the subject:

https://drcarolyndean.com/2013/07/magnesium-blood-clots/

https://healthfully.com/magnesium-and-blood-clots-6417617.html


It’s possible. I’ve had tons of blood work in the last couple years. The only thing that raised a flag was my iron has always been very low. They think it was most likely due to the internal bleeding of my acid damage. When I was a kid my potassium was always very low and they had to build me up before surgery.

One thing they don’t understand is how I have only had blood clot problems in the coldest part of the winter. To me it’s because my blood is probably borderline and that temperature difference thickens it enough to cause problems.

Edit: I checked my test results on my patient portal and last test showed magnesium at 1.8 which was well in the normal range.

I had no idea. This is good to know. :)

It’s possible. I’ve had tons of blood work in the last couple years. The only thing that raised a flag was my iron has always been very low. They think it was most likely due to the internal bleeding of my acid damage. When I was a kid my potassium was always very low and they had to build me up before surgery.

One thing they don’t understand is how I have only had blood clot problems in the coldest part of the winter. To me it’s because my blood is probably borderline and that temperature difference thickens it enough to cause problems.

Edit: I checked my test results on my patient portal and last test showed magnesium at 1.8 which was well in the normal range.


1.8 is low end of range.  I just looked at my 2019 mag report and the range is 1.5-2.6 and I came in a 2.1....I love my magnesium and all it helps me with.  And so many labs can use different ranges, why, who the H knows....just to confuse everyone. 

You mention low low iron and probably for 15+ yrs my daughter was horribly anemic, terrible and seeing docs and even some G.D. stomach surgeries.... and so many G.D. colonoscopies.....and then probably about 2 yrs ago she found an HGH homeopathic gel and it's turned her around completely....her docs are shocked and she's higher than a kite.....I use it too now about 20 months or so...I'm not anemic. 

I had no idea. This is good to know. :)


Most of the world does NOT know, big pharma keeps their grips on people, unless the people begin to wake up and work on their own  healing....I started 30 yrs ago...  My grandkids are already and are  in their early 20's...

1.8 is low end of range.  I just looked at my 2019 mag report and the range is 1.5-2.6 and I came in a 2.1....I love my magnesium and all it helps me with.  And so many labs can use different ranges, why, who the H knows....just to confuse everyone. 

You mention low low iron and probably for 15+ yrs my daughter was horribly anemic, terrible and seeing docs and even some G.D. stomach surgeries.... and so many G.D. colonoscopies.....and then probably about 2 yrs ago she found an HGH homeopathic gel and it's turned her around completely....her docs are shocked and she's higher than a kite.....I use it too now about 20 months or so...I'm not anemic.


Yes ranges vary. My chart said 1.5 to 2.4 so I was at 1/3 the range. I looked at my history throughout the year and it ranged from 1.7 to 2.1 in no particular order.

My hemoglobin on the other hand had a high of 11.5 early this year and by the time I had my surgery 2 months ago it was 8.7. It’s been that low before and the doctors said I shouldn’t be walking but I guess I’ve adapted and I could stack several tons of pellets and go for long bicycle rides. I can’t tell the difference most of the time.

This was my 4th GI surgery, after being born with problems, to take care of what was life threatening. My normal is not what most people live with. I’ll have to look into the hgh thing. Thanks for the info.

Too too bad the U.S. poo poo homeopathics...forget they exist and they have been around for centuries.....  Here is a good link on  homeopathics for anemia....not what  my daughter and I use but maybe some background for you to read on.

https://www.drhomeo.com/homeopathic-treatment/homeopathic-medicines-anemia/

Howard, you may never get colds again....I have NOT had a cold in about 30 yrs...

I really get "fear" vibes here on taking Grape Seed Extract.


I MUST SAY, IF ONE TAKES A PHARMA BLOOD THINNER THEN CAN'T TAKE BOTH./......

Grape Seed Extract cleans and thins the blood.


I always get colds, can never escape them since I'm always around people all the time. ::)

Well  Howard good chance too much computer viewing....lots of info on this world and sleep deprivation.  I now turn my computer off about 8PM or so....

You are young my friend and can start to change things early in your life....I have a sleep combo I use for my good sleep and in it is 1mg or less of Melatonin and Calms Forte' tablet and a couple  other things, and my sleep got messed up when I was mid 50's after menopause....and I deal with a lot of arthritic pain. 

At your age I was out dancing at the clubs.....I guess not much of that going on these years.....loved my disco life....


Maybe that could be the problem.

Not sure what Guarapo is but we are having a nice Malbec tonight


Glad someone got it.  Guarapo is sugar cane juice.  In Puerto Rico they sell it fresh squeezed from the cane.  Let it sit for 2-3 days and it gets less sweet and "frothy", fermented

I always get colds, can never escape them since I'm always around people all the time. ::)


You don't always have to get colds, get a strong immune system and you won't....don't you get this Howard.....

You don't always have to get colds, get a strong immune system and you won't....don't you get this Howard.....


Where I work I'm outside, I am a cart attendant for Stop N Shop and there are people out in the parking lot who are almost constantly clearing their throats or sneezing or maybe blowing their noses.

Where I work I'm outside, I am a cart attendant for Stop N Shop and there are people out in the parking lot who are almost constantly clearing their throats or sneezing or maybe blowing their noses.


Again, your immune system, inside or outside... 

We have a huge population of unhealthy people and if they only took the time to work on their health, I'm asking for TOOOOO much .... 

Where I work I'm outside, I am a cart attendant for Stop N Shop and there are people out in the parking lot who are almost constantly clearing their throats or sneezing or maybe blowing their noses.


Thank god there is no video evidence for the way I used to behave pre-pandemic. Would touch all sorts of things at public transport, gyms, and go to all sorts of crowded events and shake so many hands. *shudders*

Thank god there is no video evidence for the way I used to behave pre-pandemic. Would touch all sorts of things at public transport, gyms, and go to all sorts of crowded events and shake so many hands. *shudders*


You know the most germy stuff is handling of money....all kinds paper, coins...

I woke up some yrs ago to touching stuff out there -- and then of course, putting your hands to your face....grrrrrrrrrrrrr

Thank god there is no video evidence for the way I used to behave pre-pandemic. Would touch all sorts of things at public transport, gyms, and go to all sorts of crowded events and shake so many hands. *shudders*


Well, there's no crime in touching things on public  transport in non-pandemic times. I mean, if one is standing on a train or bus one has to hold onto the pole or one will go flying. Just be sure to wash hands afterwards. If one is going through a revolving door one has to push. One has to push a shopping cart. Shaking hands, on the other hand, I was all for getting rid of, even before the pandemic. And I don't approve of replacing it with the very crude looking elbow thing. A small head bow is what I would like to see.

You guys missed the point ;)
Quote from: Don Carlos on November 14, 2020, 04:02:47 PM
I really like grape juice, especially after its fermented.  Guarapo is also really good, especially after it ages for a few days

Juice, the kind from the Napa Valley?

You know the most germy stuff is handling of money....all kinds paper, coins...

I woke up some yrs ago to touching stuff out there -- and then of course, putting your hands to your face....grrrrrrrrrrrrr


Exactly, touching money is pretty germy so always try to wash your hands afterwards.

Glad I found this base...and I'll start with this post and what I would do IF covid symptoms, first of all I am big on Vit C, Vit D, Zinc and Grape Seed Extract so my immune system is strong...

Now if I started to feel off, I would hit my body with Oscilloccium homeopathic remedy.  Works every time in my life for the flu season.    I get no vaccines but am up on all good stuff to put in my body.
The grapes I normally eat are seedless, does that mean they have been extracted first?

Also, which variety of grape is best, green, purple, or black?

The grapes I normally eat are seedless, does that mean they have been extracted first?

Also, which variety of grape is best, green, purple, or black?


No, I think seedless grapes have been cultivated to grow that way. They never had seeds in the first place.  Except the ones they grew from of course.

No, I think seedless grapes have been cultivated to grow that way. They never had seeds in the first place.  Except the ones they grew from of course.
So I have to buy the seeds separately, even when I have grapes already in the shopping basket?

So I have to buy the seeds separately, even when I have grapes already in the shopping basket?


I guess so. Unless you buy grapes with seeds in them. I remember an old urban legend that apple seeds are toxic. I just looked it up and it seems they are OK in small doses but it's not recommended to eat too many as they do have a cyanide type component. I have a friend who eats the entire apple, core, seeds and all. He loves it. Yuck!

I guess so. Unless you buy grapes with seeds in them. I remember an old urban legend that apple seeds are toxic. I just looked it up and it seems they are OK in small doses but it's not recommended to eat too many as they do have a cyanide type component. I have a friend who eats the entire apple, core, seeds and all. He loves it. Yuck!
I understand that some grapes are available without seeds for I have seen the Great Vine at Hampton Court Palace, with the grapes growing on the vine.

I did not put my ear on it to hear the Great Vine

One would be hard pressed to find grapes with seeds in them, unless one grows their own...the "industry" probably started maybe 15 yrs ago to give us seedless grapes, the seeds are the most powerful part of the grape.  I don't know  how the cultivation works, could be along the GMO lines, I don't know.    Historically folks spit out the best part of the grape, the SEED. 

I'm  not sitting around trying to find SEEDS, I take my Grape Seed Extract which are the seeds pulverized into capsules and tablets. etc.....  As I said I've been taking this supplement for 25 yrs....

If you live near where Concord grapes are grown, they still are grown with Seeds...every now and then I can find them here in CA, but not often....A true wonderful grape..

https://agsci.psu.edu/research/extension-centers/erie/grape-non-grape-crops/grapes 

If you live near where Concord grapes are grown, they still are grown with Seeds...every now and then I can find them here in CA, but not often....A true wonderful grape..

https://agsci.psu.edu/research/extension-centers/erie/grape-non-grape-crops/grapes 
I have the strongest feeling that where Concord grapes are grown is many miles from me.

Me too, but when I've seen a small stock in whole foods I would buy some,  so so so good and eat the whole grape, seeds and all.

Me too, but when I've seen a small stock in whole foods I would buy some,  so so so good and eat the whole grape, seeds and all.



Is it actually healthy to eat the grape seeds?

Is it actually healthy to eat the grape seeds?


Oh Howard, if you can find piles of grape seeds, eat them.... 

Oh Howard, if you can find piles of grape seeds, eat them.... 
Best to wash the grapes first?

Is it actually healthy to eat the grape seeds?
Is there an eat by date for grapes seeds?

Oh Howard, if you can find piles of grape seeds, eat them....


We have grapes in our refrigerator.

Oh Howard, if you can find piles of grape seeds, eat them.... 
Is that any pile of grapes seeds?

We have grapes in our refrigerator.


So, do your grapes have the benefits of SEEDS in them????

Reminds me of a place I worked back in the 80's and a co worker would sit and eat grapes during the day, but back in those days our grapes still had SEEDS....... He was strengthing his immune system and had no clue about that.....  I had no clue of the value of grapes until 1995 when I was led to them by the company bringing  Grape Seed Ex into the  U.S. 

We have grapes in our refrigerator.


I try to keep fruits in visible places so I snack on them more often.

We have grapes in our refrigerator.

I try to keep fruits in visible places so I snack on them more often.
I can easily remember that our grapes are in the refrigerator.

I can easily remember that our grapes are in the refrigerator.


Maybe others can't...out of sight, out of mind.....

So, do your grapes have the benefits of SEEDS in them????

Reminds me of a place I worked back in the 80's and a co worker would sit and eat grapes during the day, but back in those days our grapes still had SEEDS....... He was strengthing his immune system and had no clue about that.....  I had no clue of the value of grapes until 1995 when I was led to them by the company bringing  Grape Seed Ex into the  U.S.


No, our grapes are seedless.

No, our grapes are seedless.
All of my grapes are seedless too!

As I've said one would be hard pressed to find grapes with seeds...they have been redesigned for who knows why....wine industry, supplement industry etc etc etc...

A couple comments on good health and "vitality" .. I talk to my neighbor friend who is 93 and aside from a mess from 2 hip replacements, she is strong and vital, not sick as her immune system is strong. 

She's been taking Grape Seed Ex for at least 10 yrs and also DHEA, which I've posted about re: worn out libido. 

My own mom died at 91 and took grape seed ex for maybe a  couple years or so but I knew nothing about all I know now or I would have helped her more.  She was pretty aged when she passed, no DHEA and probably none in her body.  The comparison between these two women is astounding...

Some here keep reporting on the daily deaths and the huge missing link to so much of these deaths is:

Vit C, Vit D, Zinc and yes the Grape SEEDS...

But those reporting don't seem to want to hear any of this.

Some here keep reporting on the daily deaths and the huge missing link to so much of these deaths is:

Vit C, Vit D, Zinc and yes the Grape SEEDS...

But those reporting don't seem to want to hear any of this.


Source for this please?

Karen, source????  There are 100's of url's on keeping the Immune System strong for all health issues and covid included.... and I could post some of them till I'm blue in the face and they  mean nothing to MOST of you folks here, so keep reporting on the daily deaths...

Karen, source????  There are 100's of url's on keeping the Immune System strong for all health issues and covid included.... and I could post some of them till I'm blue in the face and they  mean nothing to MOST of you folks here, so keep reporting on the daily deaths...


No, I want a source that states that no one who died from Covid took any form of vitamin supplement. That is what you have stated above, and in other threads on here.

In the papers at the weekend was an article from a GP who recommended vitamin D as a general health thing (which others here have agreed with), but he specifically says that research has shown that it does NOT improve your chances of catching Covid nor does it shorten your symptoms nor affect the outcome

No, I want a source that states that no one who died from Covid took any form of vitamin supplement. That is what you have stated above, and in other threads on here.

In the papers at the weekend was an article from a GP who recommended vitamin D as a general health thing (which others here have agreed with), but he specifically says that research has shown that it does NOT improve your chances of catching Covid nor does it shorten your symptoms nor affect the outcome


Why bother?  It's futile

Karen, source????  There are 100's of url's on keeping the Immune System strong for all health issues and covid included.... and I could post some of them till I'm blue in the face and they  mean nothing to MOST of you folks here, so keep reporting on the daily deaths...
I have looked and there are 100s online, can you direct me on on just one url that states this?

Cat has said no health info wanted on this forum and WHY, beats the  Hell out of me..Health is #1 and without good health nothing else is important, NOTHING.

Just reading again some posts about those with cancers and it goes on and on.

And the MAIN reason I got on Pycnogenol and then Grape Seed Extract a year later, we were lectured that it MAY prevent cancers.

So listen or don't but at least I'm putting it out there.

You can find so much info on Pycnogenol and Grape Seed Extract and cancers.... 

But probably NOT from your oncology docs or AMA or Cancer Society as they sell those expensive deady drugs. 

Cat has said no health info wanted on this forum and WHY, beats the  Hell out of me..Health is #1 and without good health nothing else is important, NOTHING.

Just reading again some posts about those with cancers and it goes on and on.

And the MAIN reason I got on Pycnogenol and then Grape Seed Extract a year later, we were lectured that it MAY prevent cancers.

So listen or don't but at least I'm putting it out there.

You can find so much info on Pycnogenol and Grape Seed Extract and cancers.... 

But probably NOT from your oncology docs or AMA or Cancer Society as they sell those expensive deady drugs.


I didn't say that there wasn't health info wanted. I said that this board is geared to pop culture and even though we discuss other topics, health isn't a popular subject. Also, most of your threads basically say the same thing-which can be considered as spamming the boards-which is against the rules.


Cat

I didn't say that there wasn't health info wanted. I said that this board is geared to pop culture and even though we discuss other topics, health isn't a popular subject. Also, most of your threads basically say the same thing-which can be considered as spamming the boards-which is against the rules.



Cat


Well I see a LOT of different subjects and not just pop culture and how long can a forum go on and on with just pop culture...and as I said had I known that was the main topic I would not have  joined, but I didn't know that....thought it was a overall general life forum but not the case I find.    And even the pop culture world needs good health and what is this pop culture stuff....I loved my disco world and the music I grew up with and we didn't call it pop culture...it was music....oh well ::)

BTW Cat, are you the forum founder???

Well I see a LOT of different subjects and not just pop culture and how long can a forum go on and on with just pop culture...and as I said had I known that was the main topic I would not have  joined, but I didn't know that....thought it was a overall general life forum but not the case I find.    And even the pop culture world needs good health and what is this pop culture stuff....I loved my disco world and the music I grew up with and we didn't call it pop culture...it was music....oh well ::)

BTW Cat, are you the forum founder???


This board has been around for a LONG time. I believe it started in 1998. No, I am not the forum founder. ChuckyG is the forum founder. I am just one of the lead mods-and the only lead mod who is still around. In fact, I haven't even been here the longest. I believe Karen arrived long before I did as well as others.

The other lead mods disappeared, Chucky made me lead mod and he, too disappeared. So, I maintain his board for him-keep away the spammers and make sure people are following the rules and not disrupting the boards. Chucky does comes by from time to time. When I need assistance or have a problem, I will email him. He does trust me to keep things running.


Cat

Well I see a LOT of different subjects and not just pop culture and how long can a forum go on and on with just pop culture...and as I said had I known that was the main topic I would not have  joined, but I didn't know that....thought it was a overall general life forum but not the case I find.    And even the pop culture world needs good health and what is this pop culture stuff....I loved my disco world and the music I grew up with and we didn't call it pop culture...it was music....oh well ::)

BTW Cat, are you the forum founder???


What music did you like besides disco? Just curious.

Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Tony Bennett, Perry Como, Paul Anka, Neil Diamond, Lionel Richie, Arethia, Donna Summers, Village People, TJ Brass, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Dusty Springfield, Paul Simon, Elton John, Beetles, Steve/Edie Gorme,  and so much in between all these...NEVER an opera fan, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Today's so called Music????

Just heard Selena yesterday on NPR, they were doing a tribute to this beautiful woman and great voice who was gone at 23....I didn't know much about her, but know a little more now.

Oh I don't know what all these music makers have to do with Grape SEEDS, but I complied to your request 

Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Tony Bennett, Perry Como, Paul Anka, Neil Diamond, Lionel Richie, Arethia, Donna Summers, Village People, TJ Brass, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Dusty Springfield, Paul Simon, Elton John, Beetles, Steve/Edie Gorme,  and so much in between all these...NEVER an opera fan, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Today's so called Music????

Just heard Selena yesterday on NPR, they were doing a tribute to this beautiful woman and great voice who was gone at 23....I didn't know much about her, but know a little more now.

Oh I don't know what all these music makers have to do with Grape SEEDS, but I complied to your request


Just trying to vary things up. We can't talk about the exact same thing all the time. Besides, it gives a more rounded picture of what you're all about. That's a good selection of musical artists. I could never stand opera either.

Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Tony Bennett, Perry Como, Paul Anka, Neil Diamond, Lionel Richie, Arethia, Donna Summers, Village People, TJ Brass, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Dusty Springfield, Paul Simon, Elton John, Beetles, Steve/Edie Gorme,  and so much in between all these...NEVER an opera fan, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Today's so called Music????

Just heard Selena yesterday on NPR, they were doing a tribute to this beautiful woman and great voice who was gone at 23....I didn't know much about her, but know a little more now.

Oh I don't know what all these music makers have to do with Grape SEEDS, but I complied to your request 
Arethia? Is that Arethia Franklin?

Arethia? Is that Arethia Franklin?


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Can it be that grape seeds is an anagram of 'depress age'?