Greece, New York, a little town I never heard of in the suburbs of Rochester is where seventh grade boys  bullied Karen Klein, a 68-year-old school bus monitor, until she broke down and cried. 

I felt so bad for this lady and I just wanted to smite those little bastards for their lack of humanity.  I mean, what the hell is wrong with our society?  Right?
>:( >:( >:(

Yeah, I still kind of feel that way, but now it's getting weird.  Sympathizers from far and near are showering Mrs. Klein with money ever since the video went viral on Facebook last week.  The incident is turning out to be the best thing that ever happened to the old gal!  I barely survived junior high and if I had a buck for every mean thing seventh graders ever called me, I'd be a millionaire too!  I'm not saying Mrs. Klein doesn't deserve the money.  Heck, she's had a hard life, let her kick and enjoy herself.  What bugs me is we haven't learned anything and we never will.

They didn't have Facebook when I was a kid, but these sorts of stories were regular.  Young adolescent boys would vandalize, steal, bully, kill, rape, or desecrate some one or something and the media hacks would throw up their arms and cry, "Oh our sick depraved youth?  Where did we go wrong?  What are we to do?"  Then we'd all forget about it until the next time.

Maybe kids are better at being cruel nowadays being raised on porn and Daniel Tosh, but I remember as a junior high school student 30 years ago being shocked and outraged at how vile my peers were.  We know one thing for sure, kids are cruel.  They're monsters.  So what gives making this pudgy little old lady a bus monitor?  Those kids won't respect you if they don't think you're five seconds away from bug-squashing them!  If I'm superintendent and I'm serious about peace and quiet on the buses, I'm not hiring sweet old ladies.  I'm hiring scary-looking muscle dudes with jailhouse tattoos!  That's right.  You put Jesse Ventura back there, and you won't hear a peep from Main Street to Backwater Creek!

Anyway, Mrs. Klein -- now a media star for getting made fun of by some kids -- tells Al Sharpton she wasn't crying, she was only sweating.  Whatever lady.  Go make some snickerdoodles for your grandkids and leave the bus monitoring to the professionals!
:D :D :D

I dunno call me a synic but what the hell coul 7th graders say to a 68 yr old woman to put her in tears.
I mean I made that thread about stuff that happened to me and made me feel like crap but, not having seen the video or even heard of the incident before now, I still think that I'd've had those boys crying from the verbal whoop ass id deliver.  :-\\

Greece, New York, a little town I never heard of in the suburbs of Rochester is where seventh grade boys  bullied Karen Klein, a 68-year-old school bus monitor, until she broke down and cried. 

I felt so bad for this lady and I just wanted to smite those little bastards for their lack of humanity.  I mean, what the hell is wrong with our society?  Right?
>:( >:( >:(

Yeah, I still kind of feel that way, but now it's getting weird.  Sympathizers from far and near are showering Mrs. Klein with money ever since the video went viral on Facebook last week.  The incident is turning out to be the best thing that ever happened to the old gal!  I barely survived junior high and if I had a buck for every mean thing seventh graders ever called me, I'd be a millionaire too!  I'm not saying Mrs. Klein doesn't deserve the money.  Heck, she's had a hard life, let her kick and enjoy herself.  What bugs me is we haven't learned anything and we never will.

They didn't have Facebook when I was a kid, but these sorts of stories were regular.  Young adolescent boys would vandalize, steal, bully, kill, rape, or desecrate some one or something and the media hacks would throw up their arms and cry, "Oh our sick depraved youth?  Where did we go wrong?  What are we to do?"  Then we'd all forget about it until the next time.

Maybe kids are better at being cruel nowadays being raised on porn and Daniel Tosh, but I remember as a junior high school student 30 years ago being shocked and outraged at how vile my peers were.  We know one thing for sure, kids are cruel.  They're monsters.  So what gives making this pudgy little old lady a bus monitor?  Those kids won't respect you if they don't think you're five seconds away from bug-squashing them!  If I'm superintendent and I'm serious about peace and quiet on the buses, I'm not hiring sweet old ladies.  I'm hiring scary-looking muscle dudes with jailhouse tattoos!  That's right.  You put Jesse Ventura back there, and you won't hear a peep from Main Street to Backwater Creek!

Anyway, Mrs. Klein -- now a media star for getting made fun of by some kids -- tells Al Sharpton she wasn't crying, she was only sweating.  Whatever lady.  Go make some snickerdoodles for your grandkids and leave the bus monitoring to the professionals!
:D :D :D


Am I an asshole for thinking Daniel Tosh is hilarious?    :-\\


I dunno call me a synic but what the hell coul 7th graders say to a 68 yr old woman to put her in tears.
I mean I made that thread about stuff that happened to me and made me feel like crap but, not having seen the video or even heard of the incident before now, I still think that I'd've had those boys crying from the verbal whoop ass id deliver.  :-\\


Apparently the woman had a son who committed suicide about 10 years ago, and one of the kids was basically saying something about how the rest of her family should kill themselves.  >:(

I have yet to see the video but I have heard about this. People are very cruel and it doesn't matter how old. This was in today's paper:

“Making the Bus Monitor Cry.”

That’s the name of the video. It’s more than 10 minutes long, but if you make it through more than three of them with your eyes not getting misty and your blood not boiling then you are a rock, or at least your heart is.

The video shows Karen Klein, a 68-year-old grandmother and bus monitor in upstate New York, being relentlessly tormented by a group of young boys.

They hurl profanities. One asks for her address because he says he wants to go urinate on her door. Others are more explicit about defiling her.

One boy tells her that she doesn’t have a family because “they all killed themselves because they didn’t want to be near you.” (Her eldest son committed suicide.)

One suggests that if he were to stab her, his knife would go through her “like butter.”

Since the video was posted to YouTube, there has been an outpouring of shock and outrage.

An online campaign set up to raise $5,000 to send Klein on a vacation had raised more than $500,000 by midday Friday, Klein has made the media circuit recounting her ordeal and some of the children have apologized.

But what, if anything, does this say about society at large? Many things one could argue, but, for me, it is a remarkably apt metaphor for this moment in the American discourse in which hostility has been drawn out into the sunlight.

Those boys are us, or at least too many of us: America at its ugliest. It is that part of society that sees the weak and vulnerable as worthy of derision and animus.

This kind of behavior is not isolated to children and school buses and rural communities. It stretches to the upper reaches of society — our politics and our pulpits and our public squares.

Whether it is a Republican debate audience booing a gay soldier or Rush Limbaugh’s vicious attack on a female Georgetown law student or Newt Gingrich’s salvos at the poor, bullying has become boilerplate. Hiss and taunt. Tease and intimidate. Target your enemies and torture them mercilessly. Maintain primacy through predation.

Traditionally inferior identity roles are registered in a variety of ways. For Klein, she was elderly and female and not thin or rich. For others, it is skin color, country of origin, object of affection or some other accident of birth.

The country is changing, and that change is creating friction: between the traditional ruling classes and emerging ones; between traditional social structures and altered ones; between a long-held vision of an American ideal and growing reality that its time has passed.

And that change is coming with an unrelenting swiftness.

Last month, the Census Bureau reported that for the first time in the country’s history, minority births outnumbered those of whites. And The New York Times recently highlighted a Brookings Institution demographer’s calculations that “minorities accounted for 92 percent of the nation’s population growth in the decade that ended in 2010.”

Furthermore, there are now more women in college than men, and a Pew Research Center poll published in April found that, “in a reversal of traditional gender roles, young women now surpass young men in the importance they place on having a high-paying career or profession.”

A Gallup poll released Thursday found that a record number of people (54 percent) say that they would be willing to vote for an atheist for president, and a Gallup poll last month found that more people support same-sex marriage than oppose it.

These dramatic shifts are upending the majority-minority paradigm and are making many people uneasy.

The Republican-Democratic divide is increasingly becoming an all-white/multicultural divide, a male/female divide, and a more religious/less religious divide — the formers the traditional power classes, and the latters the emerging ones.

This has led to some increasingly unseemly attacks at traditionally marginalized groups, even as — and possibly particularly because — they grow more powerful.

Women are under attack. Hispanics are under attack. Minority voting rights are under attack. The poor are under attack. Unsurprisingly, those doing the attacking in every case are from the right.

Seldom is power freely passed and painlessly surrendered, particular when the traditionally powerful see the realignment as an existential treat.

The bullying on that bus was awful, but so is the bullying in our politics. Those boys were trying to exert power over a person placed there to rein them in. But bullying is always about power — projecting more than you have in order to accrue more than your share.

Sounds like the frightened, insecure part of American society.



Charles M. Blow is a columnist for The New York Times.


It really makes me very sad that this country just spews hate EVERYWHERE!!!!



Cat

^ I agree with Mr. Blow.  As I said, kids were just as sadistic when we were in junior high.  Fear is all that reins in the savagery of those without conscience.  Everybody who went to Catholic school has a story about a nun who looked like Mrs. Klein -- but they were all terrified of her.  If you got out of line, you got whacked with the steel ruler, and everybody from the principal to your parents would say Sister Maria did the right thing.  Jesus, I hate to defend corporal punishment, but it made the little sh*ts behave on the school bus!

What scares me is unlike thirty or forty years ago, the level of incivility the grown-ups tolerate in this culture is trending towards seventh grade boy levels.  At the same time, if Mrs. Klein opened up a can of whupass on the boy who called her fat, his parents, unlike ours, would have sued Mrs. Klein, sued the school district, sued the bus driver, sued the bus company, released the tape to Nancy Grace, and taken Junior to a child psychologist to treat his "trauma." 
8-P


Am I an asshole for thinking Daniel Tosh is hilarious?    :-\\


No.  Tosh is hilarious sometimes.  Other times I find him devoid of empathy and cruel to marginalized and vulnerable people (see the column Cat posted).  Satire doesn't work when it's the king mocking the peasants.  John Stewart gets it.  Daniel Tosh does not.

Am I an asshole for thinking Daniel Tosh is hilarious?    :-\\

Apparently the woman had a son who committed suicide about 10 years ago, and one of the kids was basically saying something about how the rest of her family should kill themselves.  >:(


Okay that's harsh....I'd still hand Hingis ass. He's what 13? I'd drop kick him across the bus and take my chances in court!

It's funny how the same people who were devastated that this happened to Karen, are now the same people who are dissing her for having all of this money (I'm speaking of the ones who have been commenting on the Facebook page that was set up for her, and comments on her appearances on the Today Show, etc).  Yes, there are many others who probably deserve the money more than Mrs. Klein, but it's not like SHE set up the site to make money. This pulled on the public's heartstrings, and that's why people have donated so much money.  One thing that didn't set well with me however, was a comment that she made on The Today Show. She was asked how long she had to endure this harassment, and she kinda blew it off and said something like, "Oh, it wasn't really long at all, just 15 minutes or so".  Also, when asked what she was going to do with the money, she said that she would invest some of it. Then, she looked at her daughter, who said to her, "charity"...and she pointed at her daughter and said, "Ya, charity"....and something about how kids always needed money, etc.

It's funny how the same people who were devastated that this happened to Karen, are now the same people who are dissing her for having all of this money (I'm speaking of the ones who have been commenting on the Facebook page that was set up for her, and comments on her appearances on the Today Show, etc).  Yes, there are many others who probably deserve the money more than Mrs. Klein, but it's not like SHE set up the site to make money. This pulled on the public's heartstrings, and that's why people have donated so much money.  One thing that didn't set well with me however, was a comment that she made on The Today Show. She was asked how long she had to endure this harassment, and she kinda blew it off and said something like, "Oh, it wasn't really long at all, just 15 minutes or so".  Also, when asked what she was going to do with the money, she said that she would invest some of it. Then, she looked at her daughter, who said to her, "charity"...and she pointed at her daughter and said, "Ya, charity"....and something about how kids always needed money, etc.


Wait'll that Karen Klein sex tape gets leaked!
8)

Greece, New York, a little town I never heard of in the suburbs of Rochester is where seventh grade boys  bullied Karen Klein, a 68-year-old school bus monitor, until she broke down and cried. 

I felt so bad for this lady and I just wanted to smite those little bastards for their lack of humanity.  I mean, what the hell is wrong with our society?  Right?
>:( >:( >:(

Yeah, I still kind of feel that way, but now it's getting weird.  Sympathizers from far and near are showering Mrs. Klein with money ever since the video went viral on Facebook last week.  The incident is turning out to be the best thing that ever happened to the old gal!  I barely survived junior high and if I had a buck for every mean thing seventh graders ever called me, I'd be a millionaire too!  I'm not saying Mrs. Klein doesn't deserve the money.  Heck, she's had a hard life, let her kick and enjoy herself.  What bugs me is we haven't learned anything and we never will.

They didn't have Facebook when I was a kid, but these sorts of stories were regular.  Young adolescent boys would vandalize, steal, bully, kill, rape, or desecrate some one or something and the media hacks would throw up their arms and cry, "Oh our sick depraved youth?  Where did we go wrong?  What are we to do?"  Then we'd all forget about it until the next time.

Maybe kids are better at being cruel nowadays being raised on porn and Daniel Tosh, but I remember as a junior high school student 30 years ago being shocked and outraged at how vile my peers were.  We know one thing for sure, kids are cruel.  They're monsters.  So what gives making this pudgy little old lady a bus monitor?  Those kids won't respect you if they don't think you're five seconds away from bug-squashing them!  If I'm superintendent and I'm serious about peace and quiet on the buses, I'm not hiring sweet old ladies.  I'm hiring scary-looking muscle dudes with jailhouse tattoos!  That's right.  You put Jesse Ventura back there, and you won't hear a peep from Main Street to Backwater Creek!

Anyway, Mrs. Klein -- now a media star for getting made fun of by some kids -- tells Al Sharpton she wasn't crying, she was only sweating.  Whatever lady.  Go make some snickerdoodles for your grandkids and leave the bus monitoring to the professionals!
:D :D :D


Why would they want to do that to her, It's just cruel.

There is much to be bothered about by this story, after all, who hasn't been bullied at this point? I have been bullied with far worse than this myself-more than once.

What is most disturbing about this is like everything else in our culture we think 'hmm, what will fix this?' and the solution people came up with is money?? Throwing money at a problem without actively getting involved has never created a solution.

That lady doesn't need money, she needs compassion and possibly therapy. The boys who did this need to be taken out to the woodshed.  >:( >:( >:(

Bullying is serious it is mental abuse, you carry the scars for life. I am 42 years old and still remember being 13 and having a boy tell me that I should die like my 'retarded' sister did. (My youngest sister had Downs and died of heart issues when she was 2 and I was eight). Not only do I remember that I can remember what I was wearing and exactly what class I was leaving that day when it happened. I have many, many memories of being bullied and they are flashbulb memories, they are that clear. That is almost 30 years ago my friends. I can also remember my teacher in that class looking right at us, obviously hearing it, and turning the other way. 

There is much to be bothered about by this story, after all, who hasn't been bullied at this point? I have been bullied with far worse than this myself-more than once.

What is most disturbing about this is like everything else in our culture we think 'hmm, what will fix this?' and the solution people came up with is money?? Throwing money at a problem without actively getting involved has never created a solution.

That lady doesn't need money, she needs compassion and possibly therapy. The boys who did this need to be taken out to the woodshed.  >:( >:( >:(

Bullying is serious it is mental abuse, you carry the scars for life. I am 42 years old and still remember being 13 and having a boy tell me that I should die like my 'retarded' sister did. (My youngest sister had Downs and died of heart issues when she was 2 and I was eight). Not only do I remember that I can remember what I was wearing and exactly what class I was leaving that day when it happened. I have many, many memories of being bullied and they are flashbulb memories, they are that clear. That is almost 30 years ago my friends. I can also remember my teacher in that class looking right at us, obviously hearing it, and turning the other way.


YES! You and me both!  The bullying got so bad in eighth grade I started skipping school because I couldn't stand the stress.  And then I was the delinquent!  The vice-principal told me there was really nothing he could do about the bullying as "this is just how eighth grade kids act."  So I says to myself, I says, "What am I supposed to do?  Get an Uzi and mow down these little f*ckers?"  I remembered thinking that when Columbine happened. 

If people want to send money to Mrs. Klein and make her a millionaire, good-o for Mrs. Klein.  Like I said, it changes nothing and we'll learn nothing!
:D

YES! You and me both!  The bullying got so bad in eighth grade I started skipping school because I couldn't stand the stress.  And then I was the delinquent!  The vice-principal told me there was really nothing he could do about the bullying as "this is just how eighth grade kids act."  So I says to myself, I says, "What am I supposed to do?  Get an Uzi and mow down these little f*ckers?"  I remembered thinking that when Columbine happened. 

If people want to send money to Mrs. Klein and make her a millionaire, good-o for Mrs. Klein.  Like I said, it changes nothing and we'll learn nothing!
:D


And I am sure there are people that say, "Well the bullies need therapy too. They are victims and that is why the way they are." To which I say, "Absolutely. Let's get them some therapy too. After the trip to the woodshed."

Those kids should be made to walk to school for the next couple of years, and the bus monitor should be more like Mr T than Aunt Bea.

Those kids should be made to walk to school for the next couple of years, and the bus monitor should be more like Mr T than Aunt Bea.


Nah...too easy! More like, tie 'em to the back of the bus and drag 'em to school for the next couple of years!  ;)

Nah...too easy! More like, tie 'em to the back of the bus and drag 'em to school for the next couple of years!  ;)


that's a good idea.

Those kids should be made to walk to school for the next couple of years, and the bus monitor should be more like Mr T than Aunt Bea.


Good idea revoking their bus privileges*,  let those turds walk to school in January when it's 10 below. ::)

As far as bus monitors go, they should hire combat veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, I'll guarantee none of those kids would dare mess with them.

*As our bus driver would repeatedly tell us (and we constantly smarted off to her, though without any of the actual cruelty of the Rochester Four), riding the school bus is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT. You remember all the Little Johnny jokes? Well, we had our own "Little Johnny" (whose name was actually Robert and he was one of the funniest people I ever knew) and he acted up on the bus so many times that he got banned permanently.

We never had bus monitors when I was a kid...no matter how bad things got!
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I have yet to see the video but I have heard about this. People are very cruel and it doesn't matter how old. This was in today's paper:

“Making the Bus Monitor Cry.”

That’s the name of the video. It’s more than 10 minutes long, but if you make it through more than three of them with your eyes not getting misty and your blood not boiling then you are a rock, or at least your heart is.

The video shows Karen Klein, a 68-year-old grandmother and bus monitor in upstate New York, being relentlessly tormented by a group of young boys.

They hurl profanities. One asks for her address because he says he wants to go urinate on her door. Others are more explicit about defiling her.

One boy tells her that she doesn’t have a family because “they all killed themselves because they didn’t want to be near you.” (Her eldest son committed suicide.)

One suggests that if he were to stab her, his knife would go through her “like butter.”

Since the video was posted to YouTube, there has been an outpouring of shock and outrage.

An online campaign set up to raise $5,000 to send Klein on a vacation had raised more than $500,000 by midday Friday, Klein has made the media circuit recounting her ordeal and some of the children have apologized.

But what, if anything, does this say about society at large? Many things one could argue, but, for me, it is a remarkably apt metaphor for this moment in the American discourse in which hostility has been drawn out into the sunlight.

Those boys are us, or at least too many of us: America at its ugliest. It is that part of society that sees the weak and vulnerable as worthy of derision and animus.

This kind of behavior is not isolated to children and school buses and rural communities. It stretches to the upper reaches of society — our politics and our pulpits and our public squares.

Whether it is a Republican debate audience booing a gay soldier or Rush Limbaugh’s vicious attack on a female Georgetown law student or Newt Gingrich’s salvos at the poor, bullying has become boilerplate. Hiss and taunt. Tease and intimidate. Target your enemies and torture them mercilessly. Maintain primacy through predation.

Traditionally inferior identity roles are registered in a variety of ways. For Klein, she was elderly and female and not thin or rich. For others, it is skin color, country of origin, object of affection or some other accident of birth.

The country is changing, and that change is creating friction: between the traditional ruling classes and emerging ones; between traditional social structures and altered ones; between a long-held vision of an American ideal and growing reality that its time has passed.

And that change is coming with an unrelenting swiftness.

Last month, the Census Bureau reported that for the first time in the country’s history, minority births outnumbered those of whites. And The New York Times recently highlighted a Brookings Institution demographer’s calculations that “minorities accounted for 92 percent of the nation’s population growth in the decade that ended in 2010.”

Furthermore, there are now more women in college than men, and a Pew Research Center poll published in April found that, “in a reversal of traditional gender roles, young women now surpass young men in the importance they place on having a high-paying career or profession.”

A Gallup poll released Thursday found that a record number of people (54 percent) say that they would be willing to vote for an atheist for president, and a Gallup poll last month found that more people support same-sex marriage than oppose it.

These dramatic shifts are upending the majority-minority paradigm and are making many people uneasy.

The Republican-Democratic divide is increasingly becoming an all-white/multicultural divide, a male/female divide, and a more religious/less religious divide — the formers the traditional power classes, and the latters the emerging ones.

This has led to some increasingly unseemly attacks at traditionally marginalized groups, even as — and possibly particularly because — they grow more powerful.

Women are under attack. Hispanics are under attack. Minority voting rights are under attack. The poor are under attack. Unsurprisingly, those doing the attacking in every case are from the right.

Seldom is power freely passed and painlessly surrendered, particular when the traditionally powerful see the realignment as an existential treat.

The bullying on that bus was awful, but so is the bullying in our politics. Those boys were trying to exert power over a person placed there to rein them in. But bullying is always about power — projecting more than you have in order to accrue more than your share.

Sounds like the frightened, insecure part of American society.



Charles M. Blow is a columnist for The New York Times.


It really makes me very sad that this country just spews hate EVERYWHERE!!!!



Cat



I learned about this a couple of days after it happened. The TV announcer guy was sitting there, blowing a nuttie, fixn to go find those boys and string'em up. so to speak. He actually said he wished he could give out the names and addresses of these boys, so THEY could find out what it's like to be bullied (meaning that the public would smoke'm out and bully them.) I'M sitting there blowing a nuttie b/c here's this guy ON TV, criticizing the kids and their parents,  all of whom were brought up watching sitcoms ON TV of kids bullying adults. When and why did THAT start? THAT's the important question.  The kids are just doing what has passed for high humor on TV sitcoms for how many decades now?  Sure, kids have always bullied other kids, but how long have they been bullying ADULT AUTHORITY FIGURES??  I think it's Capitalism again. Kids being "wise" to adult authority figures is funny.  It's funny to kids because they feel so little and powerless, and it's funny to adults, b/c we can remember being kids and it's so incongruous (I mean, it used to be) . Whatever the public finds funny, they'll put it in the sitcoms. It WAS funny and ok because it "never really happens." NOW it happens ALL THE TIME. (like killing people gets to be so familiar and desireable to do when you get mad.)  So why isn't anyone speaking about THIS aspect of the problem?? Could it be.... Capitalism??

I learned about this a couple of days after it happened. The TV announcer guy was sitting there, blowing a nuttie, fixn to go find those boys and string'em up. so to speak. He actually said he wished he could give out the names and addresses of these boys, so THEY could find out what it's like to be bullied (meaning that the public would smoke'm out and bully them.) I'M sitting there blowing a nuttie b/c here's this guy ON TV, criticizing the kids and their parents,  all of whom were brought up watching sitcoms ON TV of kids bullying adults. When and why did THAT start? THAT's the important question.  The kids are just doing what has passed for high humor on TV sitcoms for how many decades now?  Sure, kids have always bullied other kids, but how long have they been bullying ADULT AUTHORITY FIGURES??  I think it's Capitalism again. Kids being "wise" to adult authority figures is funny.  It's funny to kids because they feel so little and powerless, and it's funny to adults, b/c we can remember being kids and it's so incongruous (I mean, it used to be) . Whatever the public finds funny, they'll put it in the sitcoms. It WAS funny and ok because it "never really happens." NOW it happens ALL THE TIME. (like killing people gets to be so familiar and desireable to do when you get mad.)  So why isn't anyone speaking about THIS aspect of the problem?? Could it be.... Capitalism??


Are you mocking me?
;)

Are you mocking me?
;)


Mocking you? About what? O dear, if what I wrote sounds like I'm mocking someone, I'd better improve my writing style. No, I'm dead blasted serious! Reported exactly as it happened inside my seething mind.

Mocking you? About what? O dear, if what I wrote sounds like I'm mocking someone, I'd better improve my writing style. No, I'm dead blasted serious! Reported exactly as it happened inside my seething mind.


I'm known to blame everything on capitalism!
8)

I'm known to blame everything on capitalism!
8)


Since I can't find a PMV of Oingo Boingo's Capitalism (and since Soviet Realism made for propaganda way more awesome than that produced by anyone else on the planet), I'm switching sides for tonight:

3DSbowW5j34

FOR THE NEW LUNAR REPUBLIC!

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And a hat tip to creator Dabu for spotting the reference and absolutely nailing it at 0:20.

I'm known to blame everything on capitalism!
8)

Oh, haha, I wouldn't have noticed probably, since I'm the same way, just seems "correct!" That's why TV is so harmful, they'll put anything that people want to watch on, so they can get the advertising dollar. No big news in that department, but it has a bad effect on mainstream culture (if you want to call it that) in that what's on TV seems legitimized regarding OK behavior (torturing the bus monitor, murdering your BFF to say nothing of Fox News, whose announcers no one would stop to hear if they were on a soapbox on the street, so foolish is their drivel – and you hear them quoted in your workplace, by your taxi-driver, at the supermarket....)  And the spread of mockery!  This site is great!!  A lot of the forums and chat places, the meaner and more mocking you sound, the "better." But it ain't me, boys.  :-X  :P