so hey guys.

J locked his thread, and I decided to open mine.

First off..I would like to say that nothing Jesse has said has been because he is "supposedly" under the "influence" of "someone else" as someone so boldly stated earlier in the thread. I don't know if this "someone" actually meant to say "quirk/Erin"..but if that were the case....you, my friend are wrong indeed. What he said in his thread had absolutely NOTHING to do with me. I did not attack anyone on here...I didn't say anything negative about any of you...so I would appreciate it if you would kindly leave me out of this crap.

You know what...things were said, it's not the end of the world. I remember a few years ago whenever a member (who shall remain nameless) decided to call out two members of the boards (Henk and McFly)...and wrote a bunch of gibberish about the two of them. Jesse could have gotten his panties in a bunch and got all pissy and stuff...but he was totally cool about it. He was like, "hey...whatever...life goes on". Good God...you all act as if he threatened to kill someone's family or something. No, perhaps announcing things about individual people was NOT the best thing for him to do...but does he deserve to be "shunned" now because of it? And you know what? None of you are any better than him. Maybe he was the one that started it by saying things that should not have been said...HOWEVER, as usual (and like freaking 30 pages later)...you have all accomplished acting like total douchebags, too. And furthermore...who on this board has NOT said something that they shouldn't have?

As for the fact that he is "scared" and "won't defend himself", and "won't explain himself" and perhaps, "ran away from the thread"....I dunno...maybe...just maybe he has better things to do in his life then spend the good part of the day sitting around in his skivvies, posting on an internet messageboard. Just an idea. I know that Jesse happens not to be a p**sy....so the "guest" that was looking at the thread..was most likely not him.

sorry if I sound hostile....but I just kind of got fired up whenever I read certain posts by people that seemed like they were putting the blame on me...or insinuating that I had anything to do with this. Ask Jesse...I had nothing to do with it....and if you all decide that you want to treat me like I'm wearing the bloody scarlet letter...then so be it. I will defend Jesse till the end, and if that means not being as "popular" or whatever the hell you want to call it....hey, whatever. I won't lose sleep over my declining karma count. ::)

In the BIG scheme of things (if there is one) ... none of this really matters.  Yeah, you're right that we've probably ALL said things on this board .. that later, we might regret ? However, McFly (I don't feel like calling him Jesse after his observations about me ... or Phil, for that matter) ... has been here long enough to not make those sorta mistakes ?

Unprovoked, it seems to me ! Well he reckons he's a DEEP thinker .... so ... surely he could envisage the repercussions by his unkind remarks ....

I guess you're having a dig at me ... for suggesting he was peeking offline ? Well you can't prove it  ... neither can I ... so ... we'll never know.


You're right .. I SHOULD be doing more than (spending a good part of the day) 'sitting around ... skivvies' (etc;



I admire to some extent .... loyalty ... so, your backing of your friend .. entirely understandable. Apart from Siamese twins, however ... we're not 'tied at the hip' ... so you cannot be responsible for his actions / his comments ... and not NECESSARILY agree with everything he says, or does.


Well ... I never tried to rope you into this 'crap' ... in an unfair way, or suggest that YOU in ANY way ... should cop any flak for the thread he started.


LIfe goes on.


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I never blamed you, never did and never will.  To me, you are still a cool person :)



Yeah .. I'll just quote THAT part ^  .... and say I DO agree !    :)













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I must take issue with you HERE however ...


HOWEVER, as usual (and like freaking 30 pages later)...you have all accomplished acting like total douchebags, too.



'Douchebags' ?    ???


Well, a lot of those 30 pages ... are made of inane posts ... going 'off topic' ... and don't I just LOVE that ... (can't stand the 'off topic' police !  ::)  >:( ) . 



McFly made his post in PPP ... that is PLAYFUL penguin place ! We are entirely within our rights, to joke around  ... if he's so 'deep'  ::) as to make those kinda observations in THAT topic area !


Personally, I think there were a lot of excellent fun posts in that thread  :P  ;D    ... not to mention OTHERS putting in their 2 cents worth, long after you think it's all been analyzed to death ... but then ... maybe they're just trying to connect / to prove to McFly ... that they TOO  .... are 'deep thinkers'  !  (Yeah, I'm never gonna let him off the hook EASILY for THAT observation !  :P    ;D  ) .

Quirk has been known to call us douchbags before.  As for McFly , I believe he posted the thread expecting differing statements and opinions.  He got them.  As for your Scarlet Letter, please being a martyr doesn't become you.

so hey guys.

J locked his thread, and I decided to open mine.

First off..I would like to say that nothing Jesse has said has been because he is "supposedly" under the "influence" of "someone else" as someone so boldly stated earlier in the thread. I don't know if this "someone" actually meant to say "quirk/Erin"..but if that were the case....you, my friend are wrong indeed. What he said in his thread had absolutely NOTHING to do with me. I did not attack anyone on here...I didn't say anything negative about any of you...so I would appreciate it if you would kindly leave me out of this crap.


I said that because i do believe some of the things McFly said were so out of the blue for him plus he mentioned threads started by you. I remember awhile back you getting really frustrated with some of us in the Politics boards and i've noticed that lately you seem disappointed with the boards altogether.  In the same way some of McFly’s point of view are influenced by you (remember the pornography thread?) and that's completely normal when you guys have such a strong bond.
I don't think you put him to it but i also don't believe he's talking only about his perception. Maybe i totally wrong but is how i see it.

And then you mention things like "just maybe he has better things to do in his life then spend the good part of the day sitting around in his skivvies, posting on an internet messageboard", wtf is that,Erin? Are the people here no-lifes? Look at your own number of posts, you sure seemed to enjoy posting on this message board, did that made you a loser?

I always thought you were a sweetie who loved everyone and i really don't have anything against you but i can't keep but wonder how you really feel about most of us here :-\\

No, it's just that I hate whenever someone assumes something about me that is totally not true. Yes, Jesse and I are close...but he has his own opinions about things. Some of them are similar to my own..and others are quite different. I will be the first to tell you that even he and I have gotten into disagreements about certain issues, where we were both on total opposite sides of the spectrum....but in the end, we agreed to disagree. I can't help it if we do share some common opinions about things.

I think what it boils down to is the fact that certain people can get away with "murder", while others get totally chastised for much lesser things, even after they offer a heartfelt apology....individuals are still not able to accept it and forgive. I DO take it personally when a gang of people are making my very close friend out to be some cold hearted bastard, which is very far from the truth. Perhaps if people would take a moment and get to know others (people that happen to be in the shadows more than the spotlight)...they would see just how sincere and awesome they really are.

Jesse was there for me more than anyone has ever been there for me in my entire life. I can't even begin to explain to all of you how much I appreciate all he has done for me throughout the past year or so. I do feel like I am indebted to him in a way...I mean, not only is he my closest and best friend...he is my main support system...and for that, I would do anything for him (including stand up for him no matter what).

Once again, I had absolutely nothing to do with the comments that were spoken/typed by Jesse in his thread. I even told him that he perhaps went too far, by calling certain people out, etc....but I do understand the method to his "madness"....I talk to him everyday...I know what is inside of his head.

I personally have nothing against any of you...but I just really think it is uncool when someone drags you into something that you had nothing to do with...that was my only beef.

Isabel..you are right..I'm not as "into" the boards and there are "some" (not all) people who have really disappointed me over some time...but that's life, right? Yes...there was a time when I was more into posting and whatnot, and my comment about people sitting around all day posting was said in haste, out of me being pissed that my name was brought into this whole mess.

I guess I'm not really as sweet as some may think...or maybe my true colors are showing...or maybe I am just using the balls that I have allowed myself to grow over the years...I really have no idea anymore. All I know is that it hurts when people who are important to me hurt...because I know how that feels.

^ So true sweetie and thanks.  ;) :D Yeah, the disagreements have made us stronger too (loved ones and family members argue sometimes, and they don't love each other any less) and have made each of us know more about each other. It's all about respecting the other person and coming to an understanding that matters. :) There's times I actually will agree with someone on a basic issue but if they say it in a real d*ckhead way it still annoys me.




I'll just say this about myself - I'm a complex person who can see alot of different points of view and it's like I loosely fit into a bunch of different categories without totally being in any one. I can basically get along with everyone because chances are something in them will appeal to a certain side of me. It just takes awhile of getting to knew me to really understand what I'm like.

I can totally see how I might confuse people who only know surface things about me, since I have alot of seemingly contradictory opinions of traits which make sense once someone gets to fully know me and I feel comfortable enough talking about it - like being girl-crazy my whole life yet at the same time being feminist and disapproving of the "typical guy" way of talking about women. Maybe with being fairly Liberal but being anti-abortion and sometimes for like harsher prison sentences etc. Or with how I'm very old-school with my pop culture tastes/memories and I think I'm pretty mature, yet my personality is like a big 12 year old sometimes. ;D