Howard, the rule of thumb is

If it hurts, don't do it! 


That applies to lots of things in life!  Move on and find something that Feels good!!!
^^^^^^DOH!

its fun inside that box huh?

its fun inside that box huh?
It is definitely a tricky box :o :o :o

It is definitely a tricky box :o :o :o



I've been caught in there a few times myself...especially answering alan.

Eh, it's padded in there, so it's all good.

Eh, it's padded in there, so it's all good.
Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 24 hours.

I've been caught in there a few times myself...especially answering alan.



And I have NO idea














































why that might occur ?







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;D

And I have NO idea














































why that might occur ?







:P



;D

Trickckckckckckckckaaaaaaaaay, tricky, tricky, tricky, tricky

Well it was Jess and me... but you and a lot of other people here...... because of Howard... sorry Howard... go back and read the rest of that post.


Thank You,I read the rest of the post. :)

Hey guys, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about in terms of immature threadjacking. I don't wanna sound like an uptight nally type lol, but when it's a serious minded thread and people muck it up with pointless spam I think that's kinda disrepsectful.

I'm not saying delving off topic is a bad thing (you'd expect it to kinda happen and yeah we've all done it), but not to the point where staying on topic is literally impossible.

People might rip on youth for being immature, but the irony is that the people who do this are like in their 50s (ie can't construct a sentence properly or take constructive crticism).

^

Tiresome .... just tiresome !


Being 'lectured' .... by a 27 year old.  ::)


Arrogant !


Please do NOT post in PLAYFUL penguin place ... anymore !   8-P


















:P



;D

Hey guys, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about in terms of immature threadjacking. I don't wanna sound like an uptight nally type lol, but when it's a serious minded thread and people muck it up with pointless spam I think that's kinda disrepsectful.

I'm not saying delving off topic is a bad thing (you'd expect it to kinda happen and yeah we've all done it), but not to the point where staying on topic is literally impossible.

People might rip on youth for being immature, but the irony is that the people who do this are like in their 50s (ie can't construct a sentence properly or take constructive crticism).


You do realize that the more you bitch about it, the more people are going to act up, right?  Srsly.

Here then, if you want on topic: I had an affair of the heart and I got burned in the end because he was a married man who decided to dump both ME and his wife and get with someone else.  I know some of the elder board members on here know who I'm talking about and probably still communicate with him, but you know what?  I really don't f*cking care at this point.  Am I still hurt by it? No, because I found someone who treats me with respect and love and doesn't want to change me to suit his personal agenda.  Am I hurt by the fact that he considered himself my best friend and confidante, even after what happened, yet conveniently disappeared when I was having troubles a few months ago?  Yes.

So there's an affair of the heart story for you.

Hmmm....I must be more bitter than I thought.  Oh the f*ck well.

^ It's alright, I always thought he was a bit of a manipulative douchebag anyway :D

^ It's alright, I always thought he was a bit of a manipulative douchebag anyway :D


And you TOLD ME, TOLD ME, that before that crap went down.  I should have listened.  However, that's not what bothers me anymore.  I think I knew subconsciously that it was going nowhere, despite all the assurances of love and devotion.  What is really hurting is the, "Oh, I'm your best friend I'll always be there for you.....except when you decide to have a nervous breakdown and contemplate suicide and actually have real problems...but let's talk about me some more!"

Feck, I hella lucked out.

Me too!  :)

I guess you have to decide WHY you wanna stay with someone that you don't love or respect anymore.  I know you feel comfortable with someone new now and that might turn out to be an everlasting thing...or it might not.

Are you staying with your husband because financially, they can take care of V, because maybe he'll still take care of him, if you split up.  When you were seperated before, did he still take an interest in V?  I just don't see "staying because of the kids" is ever right.  My parents did it, and now they are so used to each other but bitch about one another to me so much, I wish they'd have seperated long ago.  Maybe they'd have had better chance to be happy, or maybe not, but it certainally doesn't seem like they are happy now (unless complaining about one another makes them happy...who knows?)

I know it's a complicated issue, and certainally not something to just make a snap decision about, but only you can decide if there is something there in your marriage worth saving, nobody else.

When Quirk FIRST started this topic ... in this area of the board .... it bothered me not a bit. I was actually annoyed that it seemed her freedom of choice ... on where she opted to do so ... was maybe being questioned /leaned on.

Since I've found Quirk to be someone who is quite easy going / nearly ALWAYS  up for a laugh ... well, it seemed .... harmless enough ?

On having a FURTHER look ... at how this board is currently divided into topics .... in truth, I can't say that there's a NATURAL 'no question' ... she SHOULD have posted in THAT section   area .... if she wanted a SERIOUS at all times type / no hijacking etc; etc;  sort of discourse.

To accommodate the likes of those ... who might want that sort of thing ... perhaps we should approach the mods / Chucky (when I'm feeling myself) ... to get a new 'sub-board' ... for this type of thing ?


About the only place I see where you might alternatively have  thought about starting this thread .... is 'More than a decade' .... although that's supposed to relate to popular culture.

Maybe the new sub-board, or board ... would be called 'Deadly serious' ... or the like ... with a 'sticky' that posts to THAT section ... are MEANT to be .... STAY ...  serious / 'Please do not hijack' / 'please stay on topic' .......... and the like !  ???

THAT way .... people like McFly  COULD be accommodated  8)  ... and when 'shallow' thinking, immature jerks like me ... try to step in THERE .... well, you could RIGHTLY chide me !

However, being in truth ... a DEEP thinker ... more than some would give me credit for ... I actually thought this all out for myself !  I didn't just come back into this thread ... get back up on my 'soap box' .... and start  making the SAME kinda digs .... all over again .... at those immature 5O + year olds  ::)    ..... after 'sincerely'  ::)  apologizing to them   (well, one at least ) . An apology is USELESS if you're just gonna carry on doing the same old crap  ...... and so SOON !  8-P

A 'deep thinker'    ::)  TRULY contrite  ::)    .... would actually think about the repercussions ... before shooting their mouth off .. yet again, ... allow the 'dust to settle' a little bit ?


Anyway ... personal observations aside .... I do think I've made some CONSTRUCTIVE  good suggestions, in this post ?  ???    ???      :P

When Quirk FIRST started this topic ... in this area of the board .... it bothered me not a bit. I was actually annoyed that it seemed her freedom of choice ... on where she opted to do so ... was maybe being questioned /leaned on.

Since I've found Quirk to be someone who is quite easy going / nearly ALWAYS  up for a laugh ... well, it seemed .... harmless enough ?

On having a FURTHER look ... at how this board is currently divided into topics .... in truth, I can't say that there's a NATURAL 'no question' ... she SHOULD have posted in THAT section   area .... if she wanted a SERIOUS at all times type / no hijacking etc; etc;  sort of discourse.

To accommodate the likes of those ... who might want that sort of thing ... perhaps we should approach the mods / Chucky (when I'm feeling myself) ... to get a new 'sub-board' ... for this type of thing ?


About the only place I see where you might alternatively have  thought about starting this thread .... is 'More than a decade' .... although that's supposed to relate to popular culture.

Maybe the new sub-board, or board ... would be called 'Deadly serious' ... or the like ... with a 'sticky' that posts to THAT section ... are MEANT to be .... STAY ...  serious / 'Please do not hijack' / 'please stay on topic' .......... and the like !   ???

THAT way .... people like McFly  COULD be accommodated  8)  ... and when 'shallow' thinking, immature jerks like me ... try to step in THERE .... well, you could RIGHTLY chide me !

However, being in truth ... a DEEP thinker ... more than some would give me credit for ... I actually thought this all out for myself !  I didn't just come back into this thread ... get back up on my 'soap box' .... and start  making the SAME kinda digs .... all over again .... at those immature 5O + year olds  ::)    ..... after 'sincerely'  ::)  apologizing to them   (well, one at least ) . An apology is USELESS if you're just gonna carry on doing the same old crap  ...... and so SOON !   8-P

A 'deep thinker'    ::)  TRULY contrite  ::)    .... would actually think about the repercussions ... before shooting their mouth off .. yet again, ... allow the 'dust to settle' a little bit ?


Anyway ... personal observations aside .... I do think I've made some CONSTRUCTIVE  good suggestions, in this post ?   ???    ???      :P
  a serious board for serious topics, because Penguins can't help but play here in the PPP. It just might work.

that's a pretty good & thoughtful idea Al,  not bad for a shallow thinking M.A.P.    J/K   

By the way ... if such an area / sub-board WAS established ... well ... you COULD still start such 'serious' threads here ..... but with NO justification to whine, once people like me 'hi-jack' your thread .... go 'off topic'  ::)  .... treat you 'disrespectfully'  ::) . Your respect towards me, McFly  ::)    .... much appreciated !   :P  ;D

  a serious board for serious topics, because Penguins can't help but play here in the PPP. It just might work.

that's a pretty good & thoughtful idea Al,   not bad for a shallow thinking M.A.P.    J/K   





Thanks, Mike ! 

By the way ... if such an area / sub-board WAS established ... well ... you COULD still start such 'serious' threads here ..... but with NO justification to whine, once people like me 'hi-jack' your thread .... go 'off topic'  ::)  .... treat you 'disrespectfully'  ::) . Your respect towards me, McFly   ::)    .... much appreciated !   :P   ;D
true, but probably best to have them moved to the appropriate section & avoid the headaches & heartaches because hijacking happens.   


http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S020praC5Je6cALZajzbkF/SIG=11lp65mb9/EXP=1227864555/**http%3A//2zod.com/news/Beavis_2.jpg hehhehhehhehheh  you said jacking  heh heh hehheh




Thanks, Mike !  
you're welcome and hopefully it will happen.

true, but probably best to have them moved to the appropriate section & avoid the headaches & heartaches because hijacking happens.   


http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S020praC5Je6cALZajzbkF/SIG=11lp65mb9/EXP=1227864555/**http%3A//2zod.com/news/Beavis_2.jpg hehhehhehhehheh  you said jacking  heh heh hehheh

you're welcome and hopefully it will happen.


I WILL make the appropriate noises ... in the  RIGHT  place.  So ... 'chill' McFly  .... don't get your 'knickers in the twist' .. I'd say it's just a matter of time (not long,  I hope ...  )  ... before you  GET the space  YOU / ( other's ? )   want !

Hey guys, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about in terms of immature threadjacking. I don't wanna sound like an uptight nally type lol, but when it's a serious minded thread and people muck it up with pointless spam I think that's kinda disrepsectful.

I'm not saying delving off topic is a bad thing (you'd expect it to kinda happen and yeah we've all done it), but not to the point where staying on topic is literally impossible.

People might rip on youth for being immature, but the irony is that the people who do this are like in their 50s (ie can't construct a sentence properly or take constructive crticism).
Serious chat I keep to the Politics and Religion board. On any PPP topic it is set out for "Discuss preening tips, how to avoid walruses, and famous penguins throughout history. Announce your new ranking status here. Discussions amongst regulars about non-penguin related subjects are also welcome here." So if penguins are to the fore, it is a light hearted matter in PPP. Many a time topic have gone off-topic but do return to the orginal theme. The topic of the thread can easily returned to by posts a reply/post on the subject.

btw, have you try out the BTTF forum yet?

Hey guys, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about in terms of immature threadjacking. I don't wanna sound like an uptight nally type lol, but when it's a serious minded thread and people muck it up with pointless spam I think that's kinda disrepsectful.

I'm not saying delving off topic is a bad thing (you'd expect it to kinda happen and yeah we've all done it), but not to the point where staying on topic is literally impossible.

People might rip on youth for being immature, but the irony is that the people who do this are like in their 50s (ie can't construct a sentence properly or take constructive crticism).


Yet another post of mine for you to ignore but I am going to say it anyway.  Get a grip.  It didn't fly too far off topic and it came right back.  Seriously, if you want people to like or at least respect you, you need to quit chastising them at the drop of a hat.  It is very rude.  Like I said before, you point a finger at someone you have 3 more pointing back at you. 

When Quirk FIRST started this topic ... in this area of the board .... it bothered me not a bit. I was actually annoyed that it seemed her freedom of choice ... on where she opted to do so ... was maybe being questioned /leaned on.




It wasn't the location of the thread I was questioning more the thread as a whole.  I know that people here discuss personal topics but I wasn't sure that a discussion about two/three board members personal lives where only one seemed interested in starting the topic was appropriate.  It just struck me as a minefield.





Hey guys, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about in terms of immature threadjacking. I don't wanna sound like an uptight nally type lol, but when it's a serious minded thread and people muck it up with pointless spam I think that's kinda disrepsectful.



Stop doing that about nally.  Adding lol doesn't stop it being an insult you know.

Also I don't see much threadjacking going on.  It might not have been discussing you and Quirk but it was advice to Howard about his past 'love affairs'

Yet another post of mine for you to ignore but I am going to say it anyway.  Get a grip.  It didn't fly too far off topic and it came right back.  Seriously, if you want people to like or at least respect you, you need to quit chastising them at the drop of a hat.  It is very rude.  Like I said before, you point a finger at someone you have 3 more pointing back at you. 




And now, ladies and gentlemen .... please allow me to present my analysis of this thread ... as it has unravelled ..







Synopsis of thread:

Page 1 ...

Quirk starts thread ... seems light hearted enough .... 'lol ... I'm just curious'



Mister comes in straight away ... makes connection to Howard/ex .... turns into a  joke.



Receives backing in that vein ... from 2kidsamI


Quirk gets the joke .... cool.



Then says ... enough of Howard ... (half joking) ... let's get sorta serious.



Page 2 ...


KidsamI gets serious .... Quirk responds same vein   .... then Karen suggests that maybe the topic was better placed NOT in Playful Penguin Place (or maybe she meant anywhere on the board ?


They debate this ...  a serious tone.



Page 3 ...


In full swing ... 'Mister' makes an appearance on a side issue that bothers him  ... it gets 'missed' ... and the serious discussion continues (no harm done).



Page 4 ...


Pretty much serious ... with some light hearted moments from Badfinger-fan, and Midas .... to lighten the mood ? (Cool)




Page 5 ...


Pretty much on topic ... with Mister making a couple of mild attempts at humor .... but certainly not disruptive.




Page 6 ....


Late comer to the thread ... our 'hero' .... McFly  ::)  .... sticks his oar in  (no ... let's try to stay objective) ... he promises undying love / devotion to Quirk ...


Howard starts talking about YOU know who ... (well I DID try to warn her  :P    ;D ) .....



As usual ... he gets an audience for this old, old story   :(  .......



Page 7 ...


When Howard CONTINUES with all this .... (been analyzed /advised to death) .... we (Ladybug, Snoz, 2kidsamI, Mister ...   start to make some jokes .... coz he's played that record to death .... and driving us insane !


Page 8 ...



Howard is chastened .... apologies for his talking about her .... YET again ... fumbles .. a joke is made by Jessica ..... we have a page then joking about how he got stuck in the quote box (members also involved in the joke snoz / 2kids )



Page 9 ....


The joking continues .. for another page ...with further contributions from ladybug, mister, and those ALREADY involved.


It is at THIS point .... with absolutely NOBODY being ignored .... disrespected (did I MISS something ?   ???   ???  ) .... that McFly takes us to task  ... who (REMINDER)  did NOT start the thread ... .he ONLY appeared on page 6 ... and now has the audacity ... to tell us to 'behave'  !  In other words ... this thread is SACRED territory ... and UNLESS you've got something to say .... seriously related to this topic ... get the f*** out (according to him )   ::)



'Mister' SNAPS ... gives him a piece of his mind ...  the discussion continues.


Page 10 and 11 ... well you can do your OWN from here !   :P






YEP ..... I'd say that's a pretty fair, accurate analysis .... of how this thread developed.  Anyone disagree / agree ?    ???

Wow, I must have been drunker than I thought last night, because I sure in the hell don't remember typing any of what I typed a page ago.

Damned Andria syndrome. ;D

My story and assessment still stand though.  I also agree with Dagwood and karen and everyone else who said to chill the f*ck out, McFly.

This is heavy, Doc...

I'm wating till they make the film.

Hey guys, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about in terms of immature threadjacking. I don't wanna sound like an uptight nally type lol, but when it's a serious minded thread and people muck it up with pointless spam I think that's kinda disrepsectful.

I'm not saying delving off topic is a bad thing (you'd expect it to kinda happen and yeah we've all done it), but not to the point where staying on topic is literally impossible.

People might rip on youth for being immature, but the irony is that the people who do this are like in their 50s (ie can't construct a sentence properly or take constructive crticism).



first you call me middle aged then you say I'm in my fifties  >:(  you're seriously treading very dangerous ground Marty.


For the record...we were having a serious discussion...Erin never came back and well in the course of our discussion the discussion shifted.... its called tangents it happens... and if Erin chooses to respond to us then we'll get back on track... at the very least you can thank us for keeping her topic at the forefront for others to see.  and respond to.  <that will also help it get back on track....

When Quirk FIRST started this topic ... in this area of the board .... it bothered me not a bit. I was actually annoyed that it seemed her freedom of choice ... on where she opted to do so ... was maybe being questioned /leaned on.

Since I've found Quirk to be someone who is quite easy going / nearly ALWAYS  up for a laugh ... well, it seemed .... harmless enough ?

On having a FURTHER look ... at how this board is currently divided into topics .... in truth, I can't say that there's a NATURAL 'no question' ... she SHOULD have posted in THAT section   area .... if she wanted a SERIOUS at all times type / no hijacking etc; etc;  sort of discourse.

To accommodate the likes of those ... who might want that sort of thing ... perhaps we should approach the mods / Chucky (when I'm feeling myself) ... to get a new 'sub-board' ... for this type of thing ?


About the only place I see where you might alternatively have  thought about starting this thread .... is 'More than a decade' .... although that's supposed to relate to popular culture.

Maybe the new sub-board, or board ... would be called 'Deadly serious' ... or the like ... with a 'sticky' that posts to THAT section ... are MEANT to be .... STAY ...  serious / 'Please do not hijack' / 'please stay on topic' .......... and the like !   ???

THAT way .... people like McFly  COULD be accommodated  8)  ... and when 'shallow' thinking, immature jerks like me ... try to step in THERE .... well, you could RIGHTLY chide me !

However, being in truth ... a DEEP thinker ... more than some would give me credit for ... I actually thought this all out for myself !  I didn't just come back into this thread ... get back up on my 'soap box' .... and start  making the SAME kinda digs .... all over again .... at those immature 5O + year olds  ::)    ..... after 'sincerely'  ::)  apologizing to them   (well, one at least ) . An apology is USELESS if you're just gonna carry on doing the same old crap  ...... and so SOON !   8-P

A 'deep thinker'    ::)  TRULY contrite  ::)    .... would actually think about the repercussions ... before shooting their mouth off .. yet again, ... allow the 'dust to settle' a little bit ?


Anyway ... personal observations aside .... I do think I've made some CONSTRUCTIVE  good suggestions, in this post ?   ???    ???      :P



it won't help to create a sub board... if you think about it this thread only went off topic 3 times....

1) to talk about Howard  ::)  (and even that was sort of on topic since we discussed his relationship )
2) to talk about getting stuck in the quote box....which happened here so it got discussed here
3) to talk- oddly enough- about going off topic....this one is Jesse's fault...if he hadn't said anything things would have gradually gone back on task once Patty replied.

And I think only Erin should be the one to say if she doesn't like that we went astray in her board.  Of all the threads I've gone off topic in...I think this was the least offensive/offending of the lot... because it didn't stray that far.

 

I will amend my last post slightly.....


I don't think if we had a sub board for serious topics we'd stay on track there any more than we do anywhere else....  however a serious board might be nice for it felt strange posting the In honor of Cat's sister thread in Playful Penguin Place  :-\\

I think we can be playfully serious...I think most of us have enough tact to know when to be playful and silly and when to tone it back a notch.

Hey guys, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about in terms of immature threadjacking. I don't wanna sound like an uptight nally type lol, but when it's a serious minded thread and people muck it up with pointless spam I think that's kinda disrepsectful.

I'm not saying delving off topic is a bad thing (you'd expect it to kinda happen and yeah we've all done it), but not to the point where staying on topic is literally impossible.

People might rip on youth for being immature, but the irony is that the people who do this are like in their 50s (ie can't construct a sentence properly or take constructive crticism).


OOOOOH...I see.

No wonder Snoz was mad :(  McFly fail.

OOOOOH...I see.

No wonder Snoz was mad :(  McFly fail.



Especially since I feel I was the instigator in the first two jackings... if you can call them jackings....  ::)

Actually I think he was aiming this at one person in particular.  :-\\

Actually I think he was aiming this at one person in particular.  :-\\



but that person, in this case didn't jack the thread... that person made one innocent comment to something I said... so its my fault (in this case) not his...

Actually I think he was aiming this at one person in particular.  :-\\


Well, if it's the person I'm thinking of then I think I'm inclined to agree, but said person also makes a good point subsequent to the posting :D :D

Well, if it's the person I'm thinking of then I think I'm inclined to agree, but said person also makes a good point subsequent to the posting :D :D


True dat

and for the record.... what we've been doing since Mcfly's post is totally thread jacking.... Sorry Erin.

Our bad.

Where is your heart today?  Mine is with the wife's pies and turkey :D

and for the record.... what we've been doing since Mcfly's post is totally thread jacking.... Sorry Erin.




Only after someone poked their nose in to comment on the threadjacking that had been going on.  And we were discussing how little there had been and waiting for the original complainant to show us exactly where the thread had gone astray.  I have previously asked him to do this in the other thread (What Happened to inthe00s (long)) but got no response.  Doubt we will this time either.

Our bad.

Where is your heart today?  Mine is with the wife's pies and turkey :D



mine is with the yams... always with the yams!

Only after someone poked their nose in to comment on the threadjacking that had been going on.  And we were discussing how little there had been and waiting for the original complainant to show us exactly where the thread had gone astray.  I have previously asked him to do this in the other thread (What Happened to inthe00s (long)) but got no response.  Doubt we will this time either.



he's become a selective responder

Hey guys, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about in terms of immature threadjacking. I don't wanna sound like an uptight nally type lol, but when it's a serious minded thread and people muck it up with pointless spam I think that's kinda disrepsectful.

I'm not saying delving off topic is a bad thing (you'd expect it to kinda happen and yeah we've all done it), but not to the point where staying on topic is literally impossible.

People might rip on youth for being immature, but the irony is that the people who do this are like in their 50s (ie can't construct a sentence properly or take constructive crticism).


I would think most people in their 50s can construct a sentence properly.  But like, whatever.  lol



:D

So much for my 'synopsis' of this thread. Nobody could be bothered to say whether they agreed, or disagreed.  :-[

Am I being ignored ? Man .... I feel like starting a thread !  >:(























'What the hell happened to the 00s .... MACH 2 ! '
















:P



:D



;D

So much for my 'synopsis' of this thread. Nobody could be bothered to say whether they agreed, or disagreed.   :-[



I think that the silence was agreement with your post.

When Howard CONTINUES with all this .... (been analyzed /advised to death) .... we (Ladybug, Snoz, 2kidsamI, Mister ...  start to make some jokes .... coz he's played that record to death .... and driving us insane !


I know,I shouldn't have brought up that situation. :(

I know,I shouldn't have brought up that situation. :(




I just KNEW you WOULD (see post 2 in this thread ) .......... AND ....... you CAN'T help yourself !


















:D

I just KNEW you WOULD (see post 2 in this thread ) .......... AND ....... you CAN'T help yourself !


















:D



I tried to help myself.

Ah...bloody freaking hell. http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/06/madgo.gif

Everybody chill..please!  http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/06/krach.gif

At this point I don't really care if we are talking about hairy taxi drivers named Moe, OR affairs of the heart.

This is getting crazy...is it not?

Oh, and Patty...btw..karma to you, I think your comments were right on the nose. ;) http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/06/luxhello.gif

he's become a selective responder





The hallmarks ..... of a would be control-freak ?

Ah...bloody freaking hell. http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/06/madgo.gif

Everybody chill..please!  http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/06/krach.gif

At this point I don't really care if we are talking about hairy taxi drivers named Moe, OR affairs of the heart.

This is getting crazy...is it not?

Oh, and Patty...btw..karma to you, I think your comments were right on the nose. ;) http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/06/luxhello.gif



There you have it ... it's official ... the THREAD starter .... don't care ... so ... 'butt out' ... McFly !  :P    ;D

There you have it ... it's official ... the THREAD starter .... don't care ... so ... 'butt out' ... McFly !   :P     ;D



be nice Alan....let's all agree to disagree now! ;)

be nice Alan....let's all agree to disagree now! ;)


I certainly will agree to disagree .... and coz I STILL like YOU, Erin   :-*    :-*      .... I'll try to be 'nice'  !     :)    ;D

I certainly will agree to disagree .... and coz I STILL like YOU, Erin   :-*    :-*      .... I'll try to be 'nice'  !     :)    ;D



thank you very much!!  ;) :D

thank you very much!!  ;) :D


You're more than welcome.



P.S.

























Feel free to 'hi-jack' your OWN thread ANYTIME !












:D

You're more than welcome.



P.S.

























Feel free to 'hi-jack' your OWN thread ANYTIME !












:D


w00t!!! I just might! :D

How can someone hi-jack their own thread?

How can someone hi-jack their own thread?


one can do anything...if they put their mind to it! ;)

one can do anything...if they put their mind to it! ;)



Who needs a woman .... a man .... anybody, .... any THING .... when ... if you put your mind to it ... you can even go F*** yourself .... and I'm sure you sometimes feel like  inviting  some of us to do JUST that.  8)    ;D






In the MEAN time .... I WILL experiment with that interesting idea ( but I think it has to be of John Holmes proportions,  :-X    :-[    and a bit more flexible ? )     ???    ???



???      ::)      :o






















:P




:D



;D

Who needs a woman .... a man .... anybody, .... any THING .... when ... if you put your mind to it ... you can even go F*** yourself .... and I'm sure you sometimes feel like  inviting  some of us to do JUST that.   8)    ;D






In the MEAN time .... I WILL experiment with that interesting idea ( but I think it has to be of John Holmes proportions,  :-X     :-[    and a bit more flexible ? )     ???    ???



???      ::)       :o


:P




:D



;D
WAY, WAY too much information at this time in the morning  8-P

first you call me middle aged then you say I'm in my fifties  >:(  you're seriously treading very dangerous ground Marty.


For the record...we were having a serious discussion...Erin never came back and well in the course of our discussion the discussion shifted.... its called tangents it happens... and if Erin chooses to respond to us then we'll get back on track... at the very least you can thank us for keeping her topic at the forefront for others to see.   and respond to.   <that will also help it get back on track....


Oh gosh no, of course not (and all apologies if I insinuated that it was about you). Youre one of the few people I usually thoroughly enjoy talking with (even when we may disagree on an issue). I was referring to Mr Mister - and for the record I've got nothing against him as a human being, I just happen to dislike his posting style. There's a difference between the person's actions and the person themselves.

BTW, I'm not ignoring anyone. I've been busier lately (looking for a job, selling stuff on ebay and hanging out with people - i cant help it if I'm not at home).






Look, it's like Jerry Springer says "Till next time, take care of yourself and each other" - that's how the board used to be back in the day. I'm not even begging for it to return to that (I know things change, and I'm personally busier these days), it's just the principle of it I was trying to get across in the whole thread.

Was everything analytical or super serious 2-3 years ago? Of course not, it just seemed more communal and less cliquey (ie the "Keep ninny broken" type threads).

Serious chat I keep to the Politics and Religion board. On any PPP topic it is set out for "Discuss preening tips, how to avoid walruses, and famous penguins throughout history. Announce your new ranking status here. Discussions amongst regulars about non-penguin related subjects are also welcome here." So if penguins are to the fore, it is a light hearted matter in PPP. Many a time topic have gone off-topic but do return to the orginal theme. The topic of the thread can easily returned to by posts a reply/post on the subject.

btw, have you try out the BTTF forum yet?


Oh yeah I get what you're saying Phil, and hey I don't have anything against "playful" or jokey threads existing (I've done several myself). All I'm saying is that they now seem to be the MAJORITY - like probably 80% of the board.

Beings that the PPP is a general off topic board, people are gonna sometimes want to talk about something from their life or ask an opinion or just have general questions about something. Is it always serious? Of course not (I'd usually say it averaged about half and half) but there should be SOME more personalized stuff. It can be hard to make a post here without the thread getting buried and (maybe unintentionally) ignored.

I guess you have to decide WHY you wanna stay with someone that you don't love or respect anymore.  I know you feel comfortable with someone new now and that might turn out to be an everlasting thing...or it might not.

Are you staying with your husband because financially, they can take care of V, because maybe he'll still take care of him, if you split up.  When you were seperated before, did he still take an interest in V?  I just don't see "staying because of the kids" is ever right.  My parents did it, and now they are so used to each other but bitch about one another to me so much, I wish they'd have seperated long ago.  Maybe they'd have had better chance to be happy, or maybe not, but it certainally doesn't seem like they are happy now (unless complaining about one another makes them happy...who knows?)

I know it's a complicated issue, and certainally not something to just make a snap decision about, but only you can decide if there is something there in your marriage worth saving, nobody else.


Thanks for actually caring, and I basically agree. :)

Yeah, it's a hard situation all around. I know V is a big part of why they're still together (the poor kid has been through alot in only 6 and a half years, and it would be difficult to be torn apart from him - even if the guy is a jerk and not that attentive he still at least provides and raises V, that's all he knows as a dad). There's also the idea of being able to get a place on your own and a career that can sustain that - getting back on your feet is harder than it sounds.

It's easy for casual observers on the outside to say "Oh just ditch him and move out" (and I'm not knocking that), but it's the day to day simple things like that which don't get as much attention. That's harder for people to understand, and ironically you would think I would be the most critical person to be telling her to take off (because of my personal feelings).

But I think aside from extreme stuff (like if he were violent) sometimes you have to go with the lesser of two evils and only stay long enough for you to get away later and have a better life.

Why stay with someone who you have no feelings for.In the long run not only are you hurting and cheating yourself from love,but you are also hurting your son. Children can be very intuitive and know when parents are upset and hurting.Lots of kids are very emotional,and take it to heart and they start feeling sad.
You can only do what you feel is right,so good luck to you,and I hope everything turns out for the best.

Oh gosh no, of course not (and all apologies if I insinuated that it was about you). Youre one of the few people I usually thoroughly enjoy talking with (even when we may disagree on an issue). I was referring to Mr Mister - and for the record I've got nothing against him as a human being, I just happen to dislike his posting style. There's a difference between the person's actions and the person themselves.

BTW, I'm not ignoring anyone. I've been busier lately (looking for a job, selling stuff on ebay and hanging out with people - i cant help it if I'm not at home).


Look, it's like Jerry Springer says "Till next time, take care of yourself and each other" - that's how the board used to be back in the day. I'm not even begging for it to return to that (I know things change, and I'm personally busier these days), it's just the principle of it I was trying to get across in the whole thread.

Was everything analytical or super serious 2-3 years ago? Of course not, it just seemed more communal and less cliquey (ie the "Keep ninny broken" type threads).



I guess I just took offense because Alan wouldn't have even made the post you're referring to if I hadn't called on him to do so.



I guess if you're not here every day (or every few days) the boards could seem cliquey... I just don't find them to be cliquey I think its just that our conversations carry on over several threads..... so 2kidsami, ladybug and myself might start a conversation in one place and then carry it over to some other post.  Tam, Jessica and I do the same thing.  Then gibbo, alan and I also do it. I could have 5 different conversations carrying on in 15 different threads.  I suppose it can get confusing. But usually some one comes in, asks what we're talking about and we tell them and then they join in. 

I think you have to start putting yourself out there Jessie. You've been around long enough you know most of the members. You keep saying that people need to know you (or you need to know them) before you're comfortable. I say let your hair down and get comfortable. Life is kicking most of us in the ass. This is how we deal with it... It may seem immature but I would prefer talking about spankings and other nonesense here than dealing with the reality that is my life... I'm not ready to kill myself or anything but some days  :-\\  some days are really bleak.. so  ease up on Alan. You may like his style but he makes me laugh when I need it.  And Philip is always here when I need company in the middle of the night because the insomnia won't go away.  And as for nally- nally's pretty cool. He has never uttered one mean thing against anyone on this board. I don't think any of us can claim the same.

Oh gosh no, of course not (and all apologies if I insinuated that it was about you). Youre one of the few people I usually thoroughly enjoy talking with (even when we may disagree on an issue). I was referring to Mr Mister - and for the record I've got nothing against him as a human being, I just happen to dislike his posting style. There's a difference between the person's actions and the person themselves.

BTW, I'm not ignoring anyone. I've been busier lately (looking for a job, selling stuff on ebay and hanging out with people - i cant help it if I'm not at home).






Look, it's like Jerry Springer says "Till next time, take care of yourself and each other" - that's how the board used to be back in the day. I'm not even begging for it to return to that (I know things change, and I'm personally busier these days), it's just the principle of it I was trying to get across in the whole thread.

Was everything analytical or super serious 2-3 years ago? Of course not, it just seemed more communal and less cliquey (ie the "Keep ninny broken" type threads).

The Keep ninny broken is there for everybody to comment on,for the last couple of months it has been pictures that go with the word of the day. Anyone can go on and post pics or make comments.I wish more people would :)

The Keep ninny broken is there for everybody to comment on,for the last couple of months it has been pictures that go with the word of the day. Anyone can go on and post pics or make comments.I wish more people would :)


what? we're not goood enough company for you  >:(


;)

what? we're not goood enough company for you  >:(


;)

Your great company :) I just don't want people to think that they can't contribute to the thread..The more the merrier ;D

Thanks for actually caring, and I basically agree. :)

Yeah, it's a hard situation all around. I know V is a big part of why they're still together (the poor kid has been through alot in only 6 and a half years, and it would be difficult to be torn apart from him - even if the guy is a jerk and not that attentive he still at least provides and raises V, that's all he knows as a dad). There's also the idea of being able to get a place on your own and a career that can sustain that - getting back on your feet is harder than it sounds.

It's easy for casual observers on the outside to say "Oh just ditch him and move out" (and I'm not knocking that), but it's the day to day simple things like that which don't get as much attention. That's harder for people to understand, and ironically you would think I would be the most critical person to be telling her to take off (because of my personal feelings).

But I think aside from extreme stuff (like if he were violent) sometimes you have to go with the lesser of two evils and only stay long enough for you to get away later and have a better life.
I will repeat what I posted way back on page 5........

'Noone is saying it's easy to walk away! Most of us have been in situations to know *EXACTLY* just how bloody hard it is! We are just saying it is the best thing for everyone long term and it's a goal to aim for. I wouldn't wish long term misery on anyone, which is what you get if you stay in a situation like that.'
I certainly don't comment as a 'casual observer' I concider Erin a good friend and I am sad about her situation. 
I'm sure you have no idea how bloody patronising you sound sometimes!

I will repeat what I posted way back on page 5........

'Noone is saying it's easy to walk away! Most of us have been in situations to know *EXACTLY* just how bloody hard it is! We are just saying it is the best thing for everyone long term and it's a goal to aim for. I wouldn't wish long term misery on anyone, which is what you get if you stay in a situation like that.'
I certainly don't comment as a 'casual observer' I concider Erin a good friend and I am sad about her situation. 
I'm sure you have no idea how bloody patronising you sound sometimes!



I'm going to echo this because yes it is hard but staying is also hard so which is going to be better for her emotional health because. The best way for Erin to love Vaughn is to show him that she loves herself.

The Keep ninny broken is there for everybody to comment on,for the last couple of months it has been pictures that go with the word of the day. Anyone can go on and post pics or make comments.I wish more people would :)



yeah,we need to keep that thread going.

yeah,we need to keep that thread going.


If EVERYONE on this site posts there ... well ALMOST everybody (think I've one person in mind  ... )  ... WELL we could ALL have ONE big  HAPPY 'clique'  ....................


TOGETHER ? ?    ???    ???
















:D

One big happy family.

One big happy family.
A worldwide family

One big happy family.

Like The Duggars
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/normanstuff/duggars17andcounting.jpg
17 kids and one on the way
Joshua - 20
Jana & John David -Turn 19 in Jan.
Jill - 17
Jessa - 16
Jinger -Will be 15 in Dec
Joseph - Turns 14 in January
Josiah - 12
Joy-Anna -11
Jedidiah & Jeremiah- Turn 10 in December
Jason - 8
James- 7
Justin - 6
Jackson- 4
Johanna-3
Jennifer-1

^ that's too many damn kids  >:(

...but that's one efficient vagina!  :o

...but that's one efficient vagina!  :o


:-X

Like The Duggars
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/normanstuff/duggars17andcounting.jpg
17 kids and one on the way
Joshua - 20
Jana & John David -Turn 19 in Jan.
Jill - 17
Jessa - 16
Jinger -Will be 15 in Dec
Joseph - Turns 14 in January
Josiah - 12
Joy-Anna -11
Jedidiah & Jeremiah- Turn 10 in December
Jason - 8
James- 7
Justin - 6
Jackson- 4
Johanna-3
Jennifer-1


They should name the 18th Jesus, lady, tie your tubes!

Like The Duggars
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/normanstuff/duggars17andcounting.jpg
17 kids and one on the way
Joshua - 20
Jana & John David -Turn 19 in Jan.
Jill - 17
Jessa - 16
Jinger -Will be 15 in Dec
Joseph - Turns 14 in January
Josiah - 12
Joy-Anna -11
Jedidiah & Jeremiah- Turn 10 in December
Jason - 8
James- 7
Justin - 6
Jackson- 4
Johanna-3
Jennifer-1
...and still growing?

They should name the 18th Jesus, lady, tie your tubes!



http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/pp305/Meeposmini/floor-laughing-smiley.gif

...and still growing?


yes the mom is pregnant.... again....


I don't even know how she keeps those kids from sliding out when she walks


BAM! 


finally a comment for Rice's last post!  ;)

yes the mom is pregnant.... again....


I don't even know how she keeps those kids from sliding out when she walks


BAM! 


finally a comment for Rice's last post!  ;)




I'm positive she has to cross her legs when she sneezes!  :-X

I'm positive she has to cross her legs when she sneezes!  :-X



;D



or use a sieve when she pees  ;)

;D ;D

yes the mom is pregnant.... again....


I don't even know how she keeps those kids from sliding out when she walks


BAM! 


finally a comment for Rice's last post!  ;)



The family have their page on wiki!

Sewing up the pyjamas might help ?

separate beds might be a better help

;D



or use a sieve when she pees  ;)







Or a funnel.

separate beds might be a better help


One for her, and one for the vajayjay :D :D

Sewing up the pyjamas might help ?

Not for Fertile Myrtle, over there.  I wouldn't trust anything but surgery!

One for her, and one for the vajayjay :D :D



;D

Not for Fertile Myrtle, over there.  I wouldn't trust anything but surgery!



heck with her luck she'd come back from that pregnant too.

separate beds might be a better help
Separate rooms, in separate houses, in separate towns?

There was an old woman
Who lived in a shoe
She had so many children
She didn't know what to do

It's women like that
That make me grunt
You'd've thought by now
She'd 've sewn up her ****

There was an old woman
Who lived in a shoe
She had so many children
She didn't know what to do

It's women like that
That make me grunt
You'd've thought by now
She'd 've sewn up her ****



http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t325/imahippie/funny-4.jpg

There was an old woman
Who lived in a shoe
She had so many children
She didn't know what to do

It's women like that
That make me grunt
You'd've thought by now
She'd 've sewn up her ****


:o Karen,

I'm both shocked and impressed!  ;D

:o Karen,

I'm both shocked and impressed!  ;D



mostly... I am impressed  ;)

There was an old woman
Who lived in a shoe
She had so many children
She didn't know what to do

It's women like that
That make me grunt
You'd've thought by now
She'd 've sewn up her ****
Concrete would be better ?

Whilst I'd love to take credit for that little ditty it's something I heard years ago.  Maybe a Judge Dredd record?  :-\\

One for her, and one for the vajayjay :D :D


I wouldn't want to know how big it is.  :o

Whilst I'd love to take credit for that little ditty it's something I heard years ago.  Maybe a Judge Dredd record?  :-\\
Judge Dread, a thing of my past, I recall trying to remember the lyrics.

Judge Dread, a thing of my past, I recall trying to remember the lyrics.


one of my brothers had one or two records.

...but that's one efficient vagina!  :o


I wonder how efficient was the penis? ???

one of my brothers had one or two records.
I still have a few here, do know which ones.

Sewing up the pyjamas might help ?


or her panties.

Concrete would be better ?

Concrete!  ;D ;D

Concrete!  ;D ;D


to cover up that hole of hers. ;D

to cover up that hole of hers. ;D

Or as her OBGYN calls it:  "The Abyss".

Or as her OBGYN calls it:  "The Abyss".


He doesn't need a speculum.  He just crawls in with a miner's helmet on.

He doesn't need a speculum.  He just crawls in with a miner's helmet on.

;D

He doesn't need a speculum.  He just crawls in with a miner's helmet on.


;D


I really love you guys :)

For some reason I have this image the Seven Dwarves going to work in their mine tunnel...

They should name the 18th Jesus, lady, tie your tubes!


Or Jeez lady, tie his tubes. :D

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/pp305/Meeposmini/floor-laughing-smiley.gif





My sentiments exactly!

this thread has gone a strange yet hilarious direction. . .

It's become a 'free for all', following Erin's blessing. LOVE it !










:D

Like The Duggars


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m90/mordantkitten/thread_is_going_bikecrash.jpg


...but that's one efficient vagina!  :o



Or as her OBGYN calls it:  "The Abyss".


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/89/249270409_664e6841fa.jpg

Please, please, people.  Can we at least agree on one thing -- the proper term is "Clown Car". 


For some reason I have this image the Seven Dwarves going to work in their mine tunnel...


...all singing John Valby's parody of Hi Ho (which would be track 02 on 1996's Super Pixies, which everyone still reading this thread really should google, because if you're still here, you're unlikely to be offended by anything.  By Dobbs, there's even some video that someone shot at a live performance.  Video safe for work, it's just a guy at a piano.  Audio, not even remotely safe for work.  Not even with headphones, because your cow orkers will be wondering why you're pounding the table while trying desperately to suppress the giggles.)   

Hey.  It's Christmas.  Go get yourself a copy of Valby's Treasury of Xxxmas Classics.  (Which, I should mention, is not his only Christmas album, just his latest...)  There's a Christmas music thread somewhere around here, right?

( Edit: Well, that's a hell of a first post to the Tenacious Tuxedo Talk board.  What I did there.  You see it?  Well, don't do that.  That sort of weirdness is supposed to be for the PPP, which was where this thread started... and where it went off the rails.  I give myself ten out of ten for style, but I think it's still a pretty good example of what not to do. )

For some reason I have this image the Seven Dwarves going to work in their mine tunnel...
Hi Ho!!

^

Serious post < ... Hey, Philip ! ....  this thread has NOW moved to the sacred realms of TTT. Please stay on topic ... from here on in

(damn .. never thought I'D be the one, to say THAT ! ).






:D  (< sorry about this smiley).

Like The Duggars
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/normanstuff/duggars17andcounting.jpg
17 kids and one on the way
Joshua - 20
Jana & John David -Turn 19 in Jan.
Jill - 17
Jessa - 16
Jinger -Will be 15 in Dec
Joseph - Turns 14 in January
Josiah - 12
Joy-Anna -11
Jedidiah & Jeremiah- Turn 10 in December
Jason - 8
James- 7
Justin - 6
Jackson- 4
Johanna-3
Jennifer-1
What is the size of the food bill for this family?

I have to echo Alan here... as much I enjoyed where this thread was going it has been moved from PPP into the new board Tenacious Tuxedo Talk and unfortunately they don't want us going off topic here.


In an attempt to stay on topic I would like to see Erin respond to some of the things that have been said... what'dya say Erin?

I echo the above ... out of RESPECT for what this area is all about (and appreciation to what Tam's done today).

I DO believe this will be my last post in this topic.

Please, please .... stay on topic, from now on.  8)

...and still growing?

Yeah number 18 is due Jan1.
On Discovery Health you get to choose what name it should be..it's a girl
What should the Duggars name their new baby


Jasmin

Joselyn

Juliette

Julianna

Jessica

Jewel

Yeah number 18 is due Jan1.
On Discovery Health you get to choose what name it should be..it's a girl
What should the Duggars name their new baby


Jasmin

Joselyn

Juliette

Julianna

Jessica

Jewel


Why not Janine?

What is the size of the food bill for this family?

The family grocery bill is $2,000 a month. Transportation is provided by nine vehicles, including a 21-passenger bus. To get through a week requires 63 loads of laundry, six gallons of milk, 15 dozen eggs, 12 boxes of cereal and 12 rolls of toilet paper.

They buy all their shoes and clothes at Thrift shops,They make their own laundry soap.
Why not Janine?

I know that would be perfect ;D

The family grocery bill is $2,000 a month. Transportation is provided by nine vehicles, including a 21-passenger bus. To get through a week requires 63 loads of laundry, six gallons of milk, 15 dozen eggs, 12 boxes of cereal and 12 rolls of toilet paper.

They buy all their shoes and clothes at Thrift shops,They make their own laundry soap.I know that would be perfect ;D


9 Vehicles? 

9 Vehicles? 

All their older kids drive,plus they own their own car business. They just bought a bus from a hockey team
The 19-member Duggar family will now take vacations in a bus once used by Cher and the Port Huron Flags hockey team.

Fred Minnie, a charter member of the now-defunct Flags team who transported the hockey players in one of his three tour buses, sold the bus to the Duggars in early September.

There's not too many of those buses with 15 beds in it," he said. "(Duggar) couldn't get here fast enough." The Duggars have big plans for the bus. Jim Bob said the family hopes to travel north this year to visit Michelle's family in Ohio.

The family grocery bill is $2,000 a month. Transportation is provided by nine vehicles, including a 21-passenger bus. To get through a week requires 63 loads of laundry, six gallons of milk, 15 dozen eggs, 12 boxes of cereal and 12 rolls of toilet paper.

They buy all their shoes and clothes at Thrift shops,They make their own laundry soap.I know that would be perfect ;D
What does the father do for a living?

What does the father do for a living?

He owns a car dealship,plus he is a real estate agent and owns several properties that they rent out.
He us to be a state legislator for Arkansas from 1999-2002

He owns a car dealship,plus he is a real estate agent and owns several properties that they rent out.
He us to be a state legislator for Arkansas from 1999-2002
Thanks, so the children do not go without, but what can the rota be like for the bedtime stories?

*sigh* I guess to be fair they are staying on topic... just the wrong topic  ;)

where were all these fun posts when I started a topic about this family here?

Everyone please..... back on the original topic. ;)

Thank you

Maybe Quirk can come get it back on track.  I had added my opinion regarding affairs of the heart quite a few pages ago.

Affair of the heart sounds like a disease name or is it just me? :-\\

I don't know I think people put too much value on relationships. I don't really knock the idea but it seems a lot of people feel they have to be in them and determine their own self worth based on whether they are in a relationship or not.  I think one has to have an affair with oneself first and then they'll be able to better determine if a relationship (affair of the heart or not) is worthy of them.

I don't know I think people put too much value on relationships. I don't really knock the idea but it seems a lot of people feel they have to be in them and determine their own self worth based on whether they are in a relationship or not.  I think one has to have an affair with oneself first and then they'll be able to better determine if a relationship (affair of the heart or not) is worthy of them.


Dr.Phil,is that you? ;)

I don't know I think people put too much value on relationships. I don't really knock the idea but it seems a lot of people feel they have to be in them and determine their own self worth based on whether they are in a relationship or not.  I think one has to have an affair with oneself first and then they'll be able to better determine if a relationship (affair of the heart or not) is worthy of them.


How does one have an affair with oneself?  ???

Are you talking about self-stimulation, or just an introspection?

I think of relationship not as a status symbol but as something that will keep both her and myself happy. 

How does one have an affair with oneself?  ???

Are you talking about self-stimulation, or just an introspection?

I think of relationship not as a status symbol but as something that will keep both her and myself happy. 



A love affair, a love fest. You have to learn how to be on your own and be okay with that. Base your value on your own qualities not who you are with someone else. 

Too many women run from one guy to the next because they can't bear the idea of being alone... its sad.

Ah so!  Wise.  +17 charisma.

A love affair, a love fest. You have to learn how to be on your own and be okay with that. Base your value on your own qualities not who you are with someone else. 

Too many women run from one guy to the next because they can't bear the idea of being alone... its sad.


Yes but too many women are alone because they can't bear the idea of sharing themselves with someone...it's sad too.

Yes but too many women are alone because they can't bear the idea of sharing themselves with someone...it's sad too.


sometimes that's just a choice. I just don't have a desire to share my heart with anyone.

*sigh* I guess to be fair they are staying on topic... just the wrong topic  ;)

where were all these fun posts when I started a topic about this family here?




Everyone please..... back on the original topic. ;)

Thank you

Sorry :-[ But I thought it was rude not to answer Phil's question.

sometimes that's just a choice. I just don't have a desire to share my heart with anyone.


If the right one came along, would you? 

But if you're content with yourself I don't see why you'd have to rush to change that anyway, so I do see your point :)

If the right one came along, would you? 

But if you're content with yourself I don't see why you'd have to rush to change that anyway, so I do see your point :)


I think I am too set in my ways now to let anyone in to disrupt my routine. But if I found someone I HAD to be with I would have to reevaluate this.  I grew up differently than most.. only child we moved every other year... I spent a lot of time alone so I just became accustomed to it.

It's good to be comfortable in your own skin and you seem to be capable and willing to make friends so I think you're doing fine :)

It's good to be comfortable in your own skin and you seem to be capable and willing to make friends so I think you're doing fine :)


thx

I think I am too set in my ways now to let anyone in to disrupt my routine. But if I found someone I HAD to be with I would have to reevaluate this.  I grew up differently than most.. only child we moved every other year... I spent a lot of time alone so I just became accustomed to it.



Alone but not lonely, i assume.

I knew someone like that, love changed him forever and it was a beautiful thing to see.

We can be happy alone but when misery strikes is good to have company imo

Alone but not lonely, i assume.

I knew someone like that, love changed him forever and it was a beautiful thing to see.

We can be happy alone but when misery strikes is good to have company imo



alone not lonely is right... when misery strikes I come here.

Like Erin I have found good friends here but nothing I would label an affair of the heart. I haven't felt that with anyone... I've been in like but I have never been in love...

alone not lonely is right... when misery strikes I come here.

Like Erin I have found good friends here but nothing I would label an affair of the heart. I haven't felt that with anyone... I've been in like but I have never been in love...


I wanna say love is overrated but i can't. Maybe i'm the fool but to me love and being in love is what saves me every day. I'm not talking about being with someone so just that you're not alone. My point is true love makes us better, it helps us grow and makes life easier. That's not only true for romantic love of course, but the process of falling in love is such a thrill that it's a shame not to experience it at least once.

...especially when your love is like a storybook story.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080311/princess-bride_l.jpg

It's as real as the feelings I feel.

I wanna say love is overrated but i can't. Maybe i'm the fool but to me love and being in love is what saves me every day. I'm not talking about being with someone so just that you're not alone. My point is true love makes us better, it helps us grow and makes life easier. That's not only true for romantic love of course, but the process of falling in love is such a thrill that it's a shame not to experience it at least once.


I can relate to that and if that's how you feel about yours then you fell in love for all the right reasons... not just to "fill a void".

I'm just not wired that way. I have dated a few guys but thought (eh- I don't really enjoy this whole being with someone) so I stay on my own.  If I find someone I flip for you all will be the first to know but don't hold your breath  ;D

^ Can't wait!  :D

Hey, where's Howard's dating advice thread?

...especially when your love is like a storybook story.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080311/princess-bride_l.jpg

It's as real as the feelings I feel.


I think its great you and Jess found each other. I'm not opposed to relationships in general. Just the "need" to be in one. Its two different things.



edited to add * I asked Tam to move Howard's dating advise thread to PPP I felt it was  both  fun and serious. and I didn't want to restrict people from going off topic...I don't like the restrictions feels too militant.  Real conversations go off tangent all the time... but I digresss... sorry

^ Oh I know it's in the PPP, I just can't find it for some reason :(  I must be blind!

I don't know I think people put too much value on relationships. I don't really knock the idea but it seems a lot of people feel they have to be in them and determine their own self worth based on whether they are in a relationship or not.  I think one has to have an affair with oneself first and then they'll be able to better determine if a relationship (affair of the heart or not) is worthy of them.
I argee with this. i have know a few people with very low self worth and no love for themselves who put up with complete bas****s because they think it is 'all they deserve' If you learn to love yourself you know you deserve better.

I also have friends who plunge from one desperate relationship to the next because it's 'better than being alone', actually no it's not! Being down right miserable is not better than living a happy fulfilled life on your own.

I think it just boils down to the fact that I have been really realizing that I deserve to be happy for once in my life. I have not been in many relationships in my lifetime, and the two major ones that i have been in (including my present one) have not been for the good. I DO know that no one is perfect, nor are relationships...but it would be so nice for once in my life to be able to be happy. I would love to be able to have things in common with someone and just be myself. I would love it that they would LOVE the little "quirky" things about me. And most importantly, I would absolutely adore the fact that I could trust someone for once in my life...to love ME, to put ME first in their life, and not have to constantly worry about what they are doing behind my back at all times.

I can honestly say that I have tried more than most women in my position would have..BUT, a relationship cannot be just one-sided. BOTH people have to be working at it constantly to make it work. I have felt that this relationship has been totally one-sided, with me attempting to pick up bits and pieces and "save" it...while the other party does nothing to make the situation any better. The only problem is....as easy as it can be to enter a relationship...it's not as easy to exit it.  I am not expecting my life to become a "fairy tale experience" in a whirlwind of days....but to be able to let a sigh of relief and know that maybe..just maybe someone out there cares about me...in a way that I totally deserve...is such a great feeling.

I think it just boils down to the fact that I have been really realizing that I deserve to be happy for once in my life. I have not been in many relationships in my lifetime, and the two major ones that i have been in (including my present one) have not been for the good. I DO know that no one is perfect, nor are relationships...but it would be so nice for once in my life to be able to be happy. I would love to be able to have things in common with someone and just be myself. I would love it that they would LOVE the little "quirky" things about me. And most importantly, I would absolutely adore the fact that I could trust someone for once in my life...to love ME, to put ME first in their life, and not have to constantly worry about what they are doing behind my back at all times.

I can honestly say that I have tried more than most women in my position would have..BUT, a relationship cannot be just one-sided. BOTH people have to be working at it constantly to make it work. I have felt that this relationship has been totally one-sided, with me attempting to pick up bits and pieces and "save" it...while the other party does nothing to make the situation any better. The only problem is....as easy as it can be to enter a relationship...it's not as easy to exit it.  I am not expecting my life to become a "fairy tale experience" in a whirlwind of days....but to be able to let a sigh of relief and know that maybe..just maybe someone out there cares about me...in a way that I totally deserve...is such a great feeling.




You deserve everything you listed in paragraph one Erin.... just one little thing... you say you want someone to love you and put you first- the first person you has to put you first is you.  Instead of being the only one commited to the relationship- its obviously not working- turn your energy on yourself..no one is saying this is going to be easy...just the opposite we know how hard it will be but in some ways it'll also be so much better for you.  Hope you work it out- whatever you decide to do.

I also have friends who plunge from one desperate relationship to the next because it's 'better than being alone', actually no it's not! Being down right miserable is not better than living a happy fulfilled life on your own.


A good deal of truth in your post. :)