Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell will unveil his report on performance-enhancing drugs in Major League Baseball... the names of nearly five dozen players. Mitchell has called a press conference for 2pm
It has been leaked to ESPN that Roger Clemens name will be mentioned for steroid use. What has baseball come to first Bobby Bonds,now Roger Clemens,is the sport so cut troat that one has to cheat to achieve their goals
Just wondering what everyone thought about this.

Admittedly, it doesn't surprise me that much that Clemens name is in the report.

It's certainly disappointing.

I'm curious to see as to what sort of time scales and information they have regarding his steroid use.

If it isn't disputable then I'm thinking it's time he hangs up his cleats.

They are saying their are about 60 names, and they said quite a few pitchers.  A lot of players will have to wave goodbye to the Hall. Clemens is due to call it a day anyway, this would be a good time to say goodnight.

They are saying their are about 60 names, and they said quite a few pitchers.  A lot of players will have to wave goodbye to the Hall. Clemens is due to call it a day anyway, this would be a good time to say goodnight.


Yeah, I think Clemens is just the sort of guy to ignore it though. Ya know, I have all the respect in the world for his talent, best pitcher of the last 20 years, no doubt, but one gets the impression that he's a hard headed bastard.

Yeah, I think Clemens is just the sort of guy to ignore it though. Ya know, I have all the respect in the world for his talent, best pitcher of the last 20 years, no doubt, but one gets the impression that he's a hard headed bastard.

Maybe he will pretend to ignore it like the Cingular commercial  ;D="http://www.youtube.com/v/GEd3pS1jXJ4&rel;D

Yeah, I think Clemens is just the sort of guy to ignore it though. Ya know, I have all the respect in the world for his talent, best pitcher of the last 20 years, no doubt, but one gets the impression that he's a hard headed bastard.


He is hard headed, they all are to some degree.  I would think that is part of what it takes to excel at anything.  ;)

I just heard that on the radio...awaiting the comments from the teams.

It is inevitable that they will now look to see how many of the 'roided pitchers Bonds/Mcgwire hit off of.

I am praying no more A's players are on there (Mcgwire, Giambi, etc.) My Barry Zito better not be on there - yet, I know he's smarter than that!

I'm hoping Jeter and Mo aren't among those or I'll be traumatized. :(

I'm hoping Jeter and Mo aren't among those or I'll be traumatized. :(


ditto

I had seen Clemens name thrown around a lot as a possible juicer so it's not really surprising.

I really hate this *&^%$ dial-up that I have. I am trying to get the Mitchell report to download. You can go to www.mlb.com and you can download the report as a pdf file.



Cat

This is the list of players mentioned in the report:

Manny Alexander
Chad Allen
Rick Ankiel
David Bell
Mark Bell
Gary Bennett
Marvin Bernard
Larry Bigbie
Barry Bonds
Ricky Bones
Kevin Brown
Paul Byrd
Alex Cabrera
Jose Canseco
Ken Caminiti
Mike Carreon
Jason Christiansen
Howie Clark
Roger Clemens
Paxton Crawford
Jack Cust
Chris Donnells
Brendan Donnely
Lenny Dykstra
Bobby Estalella
Matt Franco
Ryan Franklin
Eric Gagne
Jay Gibbons
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Troy Glaus
Juan Gonzalez
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Matt Herges
Phil Hiatt
Glenallen Hill
Darren Holmes
Todd Hundley
Mike Judd
David Justice
Chuck Knoblauch
Tim Laker
Mike Lansing
Paul Lo Duca
Nook Logan
Josias Manzanillo
Gary Matthews Jr.
Mark McGwire
Cody McKay
Kent Merker
Bart Miadich
Hal Morris
Daniel Naulty
Denny Neagle
Rafael Palmeiro
Jim Parque
Andy Pettitte
Adam Piatt
Todd Pratt
Armando Rios
Stephen Randolph
Adam Riggs
Brian Roberts
John Rocker
F.P. Santangelo
Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Scott Schoeneweis
David Segui
Mike Stanton
Ricky Stone
Miguel Tejada
Derrick Turnbow
Ismael Valdez
Randy Velarde
Mo Vaughn
Ron Villone
Fernando Vina
Rondell White
Jeff Williams
Matt Williams
Todd Williams
Steve Woodward
Kevin Young
Gregg Zaun

Adam Piatt used to be on the A's, but is no longer on there. He never looked like the body type of a steroid user.  :(

Petitte and Clemens. Dang!

This morning, CBS and MSNBC broke the story that Albert Pujols was on there.

I swear, I never got so many phone calls in such a short amount of time.

To clarify, Albert is and always has been clean.

I was just looking over that report-not really reading it because there are 409 pages and I'm in the middle of doing 500 other things (as usual).  The only thing I have to say about it is Holy S**t, Batman!!! It seems like half of Major League Baseball is involved. And from what I have gathered, this is all from only ONE supplier. How many other suppliers are out there?



Cat

Hmm.

In Rafael Palmeiro's case, it was bad viagras. ;D

HAHAHA

Clemens lawyer issued a statement saying it was not true about Clemens.  He said that the person who named him was just a pissed off employee, and that Clemens was tested negative multiple times(which also can mean nothing).  Before the report came out I was wondering what kind of concrete proof they would offer up beside the word of one person in the locker room.  The problem with the report seems that if one locker room person made the charge it was put out as proof, even the Salem Witch Trials at least added waterboarding to the equation.  Now, I don't doubt some of the  people, but I also think if you are gonna damn someone you should have more proof, and if they could slip someone in out of spite, they could also leave someone out for other unknown reasons.

Clemens lawyer issued a statement saying it was not true about Clemens.  He said that the person who named him was just a pissed off employee, and that Clemens was tested negative multiple times(which also can mean nothing).  Before the report came out I was wondering what kind of concrete proof they would offer up beside the word of one person in the locker room.  The problem with the report seems that if one locker room person made the charge it was put out as proof, even the Salem Witch Trials at least added waterboarding to the equation.  Now, I don't doubt some of the  people, but I also think if you are gonna damn someone you should have more proof, and if they could slip someone in out of spite, they could also leave someone out for other unknown reasons.

Andy Petitte's lawyer said the same,that he was innocent,but he had to talk to the players union,ESPN baseball anaylist were saying if he is innocent what would he have to discuss with them.

Andy Petitte's lawyer said the same,that he was innocent,but he had to talk to the players union,ESPN baseball anaylist were saying if he is innocent what would he have to discuss with them.


Because they always discuss everything, "discussing" doesn't mean anything, it is just covering bases(sorry for the pun)  I actually do not have any doubt that the majority of the players were using, but proving it is another thing.

Andy Pettitte admits taking HGH to recover from elbow surgery in 2002
Pettitte said he tried HGH on two occasions, stressing he did it to heal faster and not enhance his performance. He emphasized he never used steroids.

I think there will be a lot of fallout from naming names.  Mitchell admits that there were many names left off, one would have to ask why.

I think there will be a lot of fallout from naming names.  Mitchell admits that there were many names left off, one would have to ask why.

I heard somewhere that Jose Canseco was mad because they didn't mention Alex Rodriguez name.

I heard somewhere that Jose Canseco was mad because they didn't mention Alex Rodriguez name.


I think a lot of names will be bandied about, and 99% of it is "he said, he said".

I think a lot of names will be bandied about, and 99% of it is "he said, he said".

It's going to take Bud Selig years to figure all this out.

It's going to take Bud Selig years to figure all this out.


;D 

I heard somewhere that Jose Canseco was mad because they didn't mention Alex Rodriguez name.


He's cutting himself as we speak. :)

Curt the Schill has called for Clemens to give up his Cy Young Awards.  Knowing Schill he probably will hammer away at eaach successive person until he is the one who ends up with them.