Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/16/05 at 8:22 pm
It's good to see your team finally win, Mark. :) Now if mine could beat the Braves tonight (sorry, GWB04 and jiminy). :-Thanks Jeff :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: jiminy on 08/16/05 at 9:29 pm
The braves bullpen piss away another in the 9th losing 6 - 4
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/16/05 at 9:41 pm
The braves bullpen piss away another in the 9th losing 6 - 4
Sorry for you and GW, Jim, but gotta throw a congrats to Jeff.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/16/05 at 9:53 pm
do the dodger players not put their names on their jerseys?
#12 was nameless, a rookie maybe?
They used to put the names on the backs of their jerseys, but not anymore. :-\\
Sorry for you and GW, Jim, but gotta throw a congrats to Jeff.
Thanks Mark...I was watching the game.
The Cleveland Indians won, too, I believe. :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/16/05 at 10:04 pm
They used to put the names on the backs of their jerseys, but not anymore. :-\\
Thanks Mark...I was watching the game.
The Cleveland Indians won, too, I believe. :)
You're welcome, Jeff. Yep, Cleveland, St. Louis AND Cats Mets all won tonight....Colorado is losing in the 6th :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/16/05 at 10:07 pm
You're welcome, Jeff. Yep, Cleveland, St. Louis AND Cats Mets all won tonight....Colorado is losing in the 6th :-\\
And the Yankes lost in the 11th to the Devilrays ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/16/05 at 10:15 pm
And the Yankes lost in the 11th to the Devilrays ;)
8)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/17/05 at 4:48 pm
Angels lost to the Blue Jays last night, since K-Rod failed to preserve a 3-2 lead...oh well :-\\ They won Monday night in 11 innings though.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/17/05 at 5:17 pm
Going down to Busch tonight to see the Cards face the Diamond Backs. Hopefully Marc Mulder can take the W.
The Cards currently have more wins than Any other team.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/17/05 at 11:02 pm
That's right, and the White Sox have the second most wins. And who has the fewest wins right now? The Kansas City Royals!
Dodgers are gonna do worse than them if they keep losing like they did today, 10-2, to Atlanta (congratz to jiminy and GWB04).
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/17/05 at 11:06 pm
Cards won 5-0 with Marc Mulder pitching a full shut out game.
Good work Mulder, if he can get back to the kind of dominant form he keeps flirting with.. he'll kill people in the Post Season when they're tired.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/17/05 at 11:09 pm
Cards won 5-0 with Marc Mulder pitching a full shut out game.
Good work Mulder, if he can get back to the kind of dominant form he keeps flirting with.. he'll kill people in the Post Season when they're tired.
They blanked the Deebacks, I believe...who remain in 2nd place in the NL West, how ever many games behind the San Diego Padres, who lost to the Marlins today. Once again, everybody in the NL West Division has a losing record!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/17/05 at 11:12 pm
They blanked the Deebacks, I believe...who remain in 2nd place in the NL West, how ever many games behind the San Diego Padres, who lost to the Marlins today. Once again, everybody in the NL West Division has a losing record!
No offence to your teams Jeff. But the NL West is so weak this year. The deebacks are playing .460 ball and are still running close second. Is anybody in the NL West playing .500 ball?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/17/05 at 11:25 pm
No offence to your teams Jeff. But the NL West is so weak this year. The deebacks are playing .460 ball and are still running close second. Is anybody in the NL West playing .500 ball?
None taken. I do agree that we seem weak this year.
To answer your question: obviously not, if all five of 'em currently have losing records. ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/17/05 at 11:28 pm
None taken. I do agree that we seem weak this year.
To answer your question: obviously not, if all five of 'em currently have losing records. ::)
Ah yeah, what a 'tard i am ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 08/18/05 at 8:30 am
It was nice watching the Braves win last night, they had a big enough lead that even they couldn't blow it.
And what's up with Dan Kolb? He was pitching horrible but has been scoreless 6 out of his 7 last appearences and came in the on the night we lost to the Dodgers 6-4 came in with the bases loaded and no outs and didn't give up a single run.
Maybe I it's early, but I think we should let Kolb be closer again.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/18/05 at 11:08 pm
Well, the Cardinals lost today.. it looked like they were going to pull it back and then they fell apart and allowed the Deebacks to stick 5 more runs in. Ouch.
But it is now official, even after that loss, the St Louis Cardinals are the best team in Baseball.
They have a record of 76 and 45 playing .628 ball. Whilst the Chicago White Sox have a record of 74 and 44 and are playing .627 ball. This will change when the White Sox play there extra games. Unless of course they lose a few more.
The Cardinals now lead Houstin by 12.0 games and the Cu**s by 17.0 games. The Flubs have dropped to 4th in the NL Central as well.
In other good news the A's still lead the Yankees by a game and a half in the AL Wild Card. The Kansas City Royals are still on course to break the modern record for most consecutive losses and Philedelphia managed to creep a half game ahead of The Astro's. I'd much rather have Philedelphia with there avaerage pitching staff in the playoffs than the Astro's with there Kickas*! Pitching staff.
Short series's favour good pitching.. who wants to face Clemens, Oswalt and Pettiete. With Lidge in the wings. The Nationals could leapfrog both the Stro's and Phillies.. which would be nice.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/18/05 at 11:22 pm
Well...the Dodgers (who are probably not going to see the playoffs this year) won today, 7-4, taking two out of three from the Braves. Duaner Sanchez picked up his second save this year; he is now the third closer that L.A. has had this year; Yhency Brazobum has faltered a lot lately.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/19/05 at 1:36 pm
And the Angels hung on to clobber the Red Sox, 13-4; Bartolo Colon's record has improved to 16 wins and 6 losses.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/19/05 at 10:32 pm
Jim Edmonds hit a Walk off Home Run to give the Cardinals the 5-4 win over the Giants.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/19/05 at 11:57 pm
Jim Edmonds hit a Walk off Home Run to give the Cardinals the 5-4 win over the Giants.
YAYYY!!! I was hoping the Cardinals would win. :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: bbigd04 on 08/20/05 at 12:32 am
Indians comeback to beat the Orioles 5-4 and will stay 2.5 back of Oakland in the AL wild card chase.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/20/05 at 2:23 pm
^ That's good. 8) I hope Cleveland wins the A.L. wildcard spot. :)
Dodgers were denied any runs by the Florida Marlins yesterday; A.J. Burnett and the fishes' closer shut 'em down 3-zip yesterday. Unfortunately, today's game will NOT be televised locally, which makes me mad, because I like watching the game on TV. I can see what's going on.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/20/05 at 7:57 pm
Cardinals won today 4-2.
At this moment they're 12.5 games ahead of Houston and 17.5 ahead of the Flubs.
At the start of the year i said St Louis would win by 15 and so Would the White Sox. 1 out of 2 ain't bad. The White Sox haven't been as dominant recently and are 4 win down on the Cards.
Unless the Astro's start getting some SERIOUS run support for the pitching staff, they will fall to 15 behind.
I'd like to see the Twins and Indians get beat up a bit and have the White Sox win convincingly.. but i don't think it'll happen.
The Kansas City Royals have lost 19 in a row now, they're closing on the Modern Day Record.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: jiminy on 08/20/05 at 8:54 pm
The Braves have been playing bad the past few days, I wish they would let Hampton and Thompson do their "rehab starts" in the minor leagues, it is clear both are not yet up to form, we got good pitching today but no hitting and finally lost it in the 13th inning 7 - 2... Smoltz goes tomorrow night
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: bbigd04 on 08/21/05 at 12:52 am
Tribe wins 6-1, The Royals finally win a game and beat the A's 2-1. Indians move to 1.5 back of Oakland.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/21/05 at 9:23 am
Colorado beat Chicago 4-2 last night....and in little league news, Dante Bichette Jr. Pitched and hit his Florida team to victory last night...
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/llws05/index
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/21/05 at 12:10 pm
Dodgers beat the Marlins yesterday 11-6 to go 3-2 on their current roadtrip.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/21/05 at 2:45 pm
Rockies lead 1-0 early against Maddux....now I'm off to the gym.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/21/05 at 3:32 pm
An hour or so ago I turned on the L.A./Florida game... the Marlins were leading 7-1 in the 8th. :-\\ I dunno; doesn't look too promising for my team. They probably lost already.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/21/05 at 7:15 pm
An hour or so ago I turned on the L.A./Florida game... the Marlins were leading 7-1 in the 8th. :-\\ I dunno; doesn't look too promising for my team. They probably lost already.
Sorry to hear that Jeff, I thought my Rockies lost but they actually beat the Cubs to win the series 2-1 by a 9-7 score :D
DENVER -- The Colorado Rockies and Chicago Cubs played a classic Coors Field game.
Matt Holliday and Dustan Mohr hit two-run homers, leading the Rockies over the Cubs 9-7 on Sunday in a game that featured eight home runs.
"We had a little nostalgia game, one that wasn't for the weak of heart," Colorado manager Clint Hurdle said. "Like old times, with a lot of home runs."
Each team hit four homers -- but the Cubs didn't enjoy theirs nearly as much.
"I'd managed here too many games before and again it was too painful to watch," Chicago manager Dusty Baker said. "You make mistakes and the ball flies out of here."
Garrett Atkins had three hits, including a solo homer, for the Rockies. Pinch-hitter Jorge Piedra added a three-run drive in the eighth as Colorado took two of three in the series.
"I wasn't here for the Blake Street Bombers, but this was the atmosphere they played in every game," Holliday said. "That picked me up as it did all of us and helped us come back from a great pitcher."
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: bbigd04 on 08/21/05 at 8:17 pm
Indians win again, A's and Yankees lose, the Tribe moves within 0.5 games! It's getting very close in the AL wild card race.
Oakland 68 55 .553 -
NY Yankees 67 55 .549 .5
Cleveland 68 56 .548 .5
Minnesota 66 58 .532 2.5
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/22/05 at 11:19 am
^ Go tribe!! ;D I definitely want them to win the WC spot.
I'm glad the Wankees lost yesterday to the White Sox. What's more, the Big Unit was handed another loss.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 08/22/05 at 1:46 pm
The Braves FINALLY beat the Padres by a score of 6-2 and hold onto a 3.5 game lead in the NL east. One more win and the Padres would have swept us for the entire season, for some reason the Braves just couldn't beat them, they're the Braves one weakness.
We play the Cubs tonight, a team we swept in a four game series not to long ago.
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And that Farnsworth guy we got during the middle season in a trade with the Tigers is great. We need to make him the closer.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/22/05 at 1:48 pm
My team lost its 67th yesterday (12 of those losses now belong to Derek Lowe).. we have one more shot today to split the series two games apiece. Today, I believe, is Jeff Weaver's 32nd birthday.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/22/05 at 2:44 pm
We play the Cubs tonight, a team we swept in a four game series not to long ago.
GO BRAVES!!!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/22/05 at 2:52 pm
Colorado has the day off before traveling West to play Jeff's Dodgers. The Rockies need to win 16 more games to avoid 100 losses and trail the Giants by 7 and a half and Pittburgh by 6 to climb up from worst in the NL.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/22/05 at 6:38 pm
St. Louis leads the Pirates in the 2nd by a score of 2-1.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: jiminy on 08/22/05 at 10:36 pm
Braves won 4 - 2, Chipper hit two 2 run homers and Tim Hudson pitched a complete game
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/22/05 at 11:47 pm
Braves won 4 - 2, Chipper hit two 2 run homers and Tim Hudson pitched a complete game
Hudson looked great, congrats on the win....Chipper killed my Rockies in the '95 playoffs and he's STILL good!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: bbigd04 on 08/22/05 at 11:48 pm
Indians win again 11-4! Yankees win as well so it's a virtual 3 way tie in the AL wild card race, Indians do trail the A's and Yanks by percentage points though. This is going to be a great race. It's very close in the NL wild card race as well.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: jiminy on 08/22/05 at 11:50 pm
Hudson looked great, congrats on the win....Chipper killed my Rockies in the '95 playoffs and he's STILL good!
he has the swing back and he bats one two with andruw jones
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/22/05 at 11:51 pm
he has the swing back and he bats one two with andruw jones
They are awesome....reminds me of Bichette and Walker back in the day.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: jiminy on 08/22/05 at 11:57 pm
They are awesome....reminds me of Bichette and Walker back in the day.
Estrada was back tonight too, a lot of the young guys are looking really good... jeff francouer is looking like a rookie of the year candidate
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/23/05 at 12:03 am
Estrada was back tonight too, a lot of the young guys are looking really good... jeff francouer is looking like a rookie of the year candidate
And as much as I have disliked Bobby Cox....I gotta give him a LOT of credit for taking this team...and all the others over the years, as far as he has.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 08/23/05 at 1:02 am
As already stated, Braves beat the Cubs 4-2. And the Cubs best pitcher was pitching, so it's good he is out of the way. Now we'll see if Thomson can pitch a good game.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Magnum,PI {2} on 08/23/05 at 10:30 am
yanks are gonna win the al wild card and crush bostons sorry a s ses in the alcs, then gana beat the nats in the world series!!! 27 championchips!!
GO YANKEES I HATE TH REDSOX ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/23/05 at 3:26 pm
yanks are gonna win the al wild card and crush bostons sorry a s ses in the alcs, then gana beat the nats in the world series!!! 27 championchips!!
GO YANKEES I HATE TH REDSOX ;D
Hey a LOT of us are still smiling from last years ALCS, biggest choke in sports history ;D I respect that's your team though, it should be an interesting race the rest of the way :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/23/05 at 9:58 pm
Ugh.. i hang my head. 10-0 against the Pirates. That's not bad.. that's an embarrassment!
Nobody seemed up for it tonight. It was almost like a repeat of the World Series... the Cards just looked lethargic.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Magnum,PI {2} on 08/24/05 at 7:13 am
ummm rock and roll fan you might be too young to remember but in 86 Bill Buckler first baseman for the red sox let the game winning out get through his legs and mets won in 86 cuz of that ;DThats the biggest choke in history ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/24/05 at 8:09 am
ummm rock and roll fan you might be too young to remember but in 86 Bill Buckler first baseman for the red sox let the game winning out get through his legs and mets won in 86 cuz of that ;DThats the biggest choke in history ;)
I was 26 at the time and since the Mets and Cardinals were from the same division, I was rooting against New York. Though it ranks very high, no sports team had ever had a 3-0 lead and then choked 4 straight games. I still think that's the biggest choke :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Magnum,PI {2} on 08/24/05 at 9:36 am
uhhhhh your rite but in 1955 (i think the year is rigte) the new your giaints beat the brooklyn dodgers after coming 0-3 behind the dodgers in the world series :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/24/05 at 1:25 pm
The Cubbies won last night, though ;)
One embarresment every couple of months is one thing..
In this house WGN is out Comedy Central ;)
I watched some 'great' Cubbie 'Baseball' over the weekend. ;D I'm trying to remember just how many errors there were.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/24/05 at 4:42 pm
uhhhhh your rite but in 1955 (i think the year is rigte) the new york giaints beat the brooklyn dodgers after coming 0-3 behind the dodgers in the world series :)
No, I think the Yankees won that one. Giants and Dodgers are both in the National League (and always have been) so they can't possibly face e.o. in a World Series.
Anyway, my L.A. Dodgers beat Mark's Colorado Rockies last night 8-3; Jeff Weaver improved to 12-8 (which is the opposite of Derek Lowe's miserable record right now). So far, the Rockies haven't won at Dodger Stadium since last year. May the best team win tonight. ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 08/24/05 at 5:00 pm
Braves beat the Cubs today by a final score of 3-1 and take two out of three from the Cubs.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: jiminy on 08/24/05 at 5:25 pm
Braves beat the Cubs today by a final score of 3-1 and take two out of three from the Cubs.
missed my first game of the year... dam the cubs and their day games
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/24/05 at 8:36 pm
uhhhhh your rite but in 1955 (i think the year is rigte) the new your giaints beat the brooklyn dodgers after coming 0-3 behind the dodgers in the world series :)
Brooklyn Dodgers (4) vs New York Yankees (3)
Also, the Pirates and Yankees played in the 1960 World Series.
1960 World Series Game 1
Yankees 4
Pittsburgh 6
Game 2
Yankees 16
Pirates 3
Game 3
Pirates 0
Yankees 10
Game 4
Pirates 3
Yankees 2
Game 5
Pirates 5
Yankees 2
Game 6
Yankees 12
Pirates 0
Game 7
Yankees 9
Pirates 10
=============================================================
Yankees outscored the Pirates 43-27 and the Pirates still won the Series. Now THAT was exciting...though I've only seen highlights :)
In the late 70's I actually KINDA liked the Yanks, with Ron Guidrey & Thurman Munson :\'(
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 08/24/05 at 11:42 pm
Wow.....the Royals beat the Red Sox.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/25/05 at 12:28 am
The Rockies actually won tonight :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/25/05 at 1:46 pm
The Rockies actually won tonight :D
Yes...and they beat my team. Neither starter gave up a run during the first seven innings of the game; in fact, neither Byung Hyun Kim nor DJ Houlton gave up a run period. Rockies scored 2 in the 8th and the Dodgers put one on the board in the 9th.
The finale of the three-game series (which is currently split 1 game apiece) is tonight; good luck to your Rockies, Mark. ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Magnum,PI {2} on 08/25/05 at 2:21 pm
:\'(RIP THUMON MUNSON :\'( heh we stole your closer colorado (Shawn Chacon)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/25/05 at 2:33 pm
:\'(RIP THUMON MUNSON :\'( heh we stole your closer colorado (Shawn Chacon)
What's interesting is that today, Shawn Chacon faces a pitcher for the Blue Jays whose last name is Chacin! (The two starting pitchers have one letter different in their names...isn't that amazing?!) :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 08/25/05 at 10:12 pm
The Royals beat the Red Sox again and took two out of three from them. :o :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: bbigd04 on 08/25/05 at 11:32 pm
Tribe with a nice 12-4 victory tonight, after yesterday's horrible loss. Still a virtual 3 way tie in the AL wild card race.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/25/05 at 11:35 pm
The Royals beat the Red Sox again and took two out of three from them. :o :D
:( I really wanted the Royals to go 0 for August. ;D
The Cardinals won again, they've taken 2 out of 3 against the Pirates so far.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/26/05 at 1:16 am
And the Rockies took two out of three from the Dodgers. Both Rockie wins were one-run decisions. :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/26/05 at 1:16 pm
Also, the Angels failed to complete a sweep in Baltimore yesterday as Rodrigo Lopez shut 'em down 2-zip. :-\\ John Lackey pitched a complete game but got no run support.
And the wankees' Chacon beat the Blue jays' Chacin as well.
On the plus side, the Indians won. :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/27/05 at 4:07 am
As if things couldn't get any worse, Andy Pettitte and company hand Derek Lowe his unlucky 13th loss as the Astros beat the Dodgers 2-1. ::) The Astros' three best pitchers, Pettitte, Roy Oswalt, and Roger Clemens, are scheduled to face the Dodgers at the Stadium this weekend. We shall see how things turn out. But one game is down with two to go.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 08/27/05 at 7:47 am
As if things couldn't get any worse, Andy Pettitte and company hand Derek Lowe his unlucky 13th loss as the Astros beat the Dodgers 2-1. ::)
I was wondering how Derek Lowe would do once he left the Sox. He is a real putz and Boston was glad to see the back of him.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/28/05 at 1:01 am
I was wondering how Derek Lowe would do once he left the Sox. He is a real putz and Boston was glad to see the back of him.
He had done so well with the Red Sox last year...especially in the playoffs... who woulda thought he'd get no run support in most of his starts as a Dodger?
Anyway, my team won tonight, beating the Houston Astros 8-3. :) Edwin Jackson, who turns 22 in a couple weeks, got his first win of the season.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/28/05 at 1:31 pm
And the Rockies took two out of three from the Dodgers. Both Rockie wins were one-run decisions. :-\\
Sorry Jeff, but now the Rockies are trying to sweep the Padres. I'm happy because they are closing in on Pittsburgh and San Fran.....and the Cardinals just keep on winning :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/28/05 at 3:35 pm
Sorry Jeff, but now the Rockies are trying to sweep the Padres. I'm happy because they are closing in on Pittsburgh and San Fran.....and the Cardinals just keep on winning :)
Well I'm sure youre happy about the Rockies taking two of three from L.A.; after all, they are your team. They'll make another visit to Dodger Stadium some time next month, and we'll be heading to Denver some time after that. As for the Cardinals, I'll cheer for them in the playoffs for sure. :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: jiminy on 08/28/05 at 3:39 pm
Braves won 5 - 2, Tim Hudson pitched a complete game and Andruw Jones hit two homeruns
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/28/05 at 7:10 pm
Roger Clemens is denied a victory as the Dodgers beat the Astros 1-0. ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/28/05 at 8:15 pm
Well I'm sure youre happy about the Rockies taking two of three from L.A.; after all, they are your team. They'll make another visit to Dodger Stadium some time next month, and we'll be heading to Denver some time after that. As for the Cardinals, I'll cheer for them in the playoffs for sure. :)
Thanks Jeff. We weren't quite able to sweep San Diego today though :-\\ Though I'm happy they just need 10 more wins to avoid 100 losses and are close to catching the Pirates and San Francisco,,,while The Royals are way behind the Rockies now for worst record :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/28/05 at 8:20 pm
Braves won 5 - 2, Tim Hudson pitched a complete game and Andruw Jones hit two homeruns
Hey Jim, is Jones close to breaking the team record? I'm thinking Mathews...48 HR's in the 60's ???
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: jiminy on 08/28/05 at 8:49 pm
Hey Jim, is Jones close to breaking the team record? I'm thinking Mathews...48 HR's in the 60's ???
the Atlanta record is 43 held by Javy Lopez, Hank Aaron has the Braves record of 48 (Mathews might share the record, i'm not sure) Andruw now has 42
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/28/05 at 8:56 pm
the Atlanta record is 43 held by Javy Lopez, Hank Aaron has the Braves record of 48 (Mathews might share the record, i'm not sure) Andruw now has 42
Thanks, I actually like Jones and hope he breaks the franchise record. 50 would be great :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: jiminy on 08/28/05 at 9:02 pm
Thanks, I actually like Jones and hope he breaks the franchise record. 50 would be great :)
Andruw and Smoltz are my two favorites
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/28/05 at 9:05 pm
Andruw and Smoltz are my two favorites
I love the Home Depot commercial with Smoltz :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/28/05 at 11:07 pm
Andruw and Smoltz are my two favorites
I think Andruw Jones is a great Ballplayer. I dislike Chipper Jones though. He's just a jerk.
I hope the Braves play the Cards at some point in the post season so i can harass Chipper again. ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 08/29/05 at 2:15 am
I love the Home Depot commercial with Smoltz :)
I love that commercial as well, but the one on the radio with Smoltz talking to some cartoon character is embarrassing to listen to.
As stated the Braves won today and every team in our division lost. Good.
I dislike Chipper Jones though. He's just a jerk.
What!?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/29/05 at 11:22 am
I love that commercial as well, but the one on the radio with Smoltz talking to some cartoon character is embarrassing to listen to.
As stated the Braves won today and every team in our division lost. Good.
What!?
I haven't heard that one :-\\
As for Chipper...I can't stand him either. He personally beat my Rockies in that '95 playoff series >:( He IS a great player though.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/29/05 at 12:16 pm
Thanks Jeff. We weren't quite able to sweep San Diego today though :-\\ Though I'm happy they just need 10 more wins to avoid 100 losses and are close to catching the Pirates and San Francisco,,,while The Royals are way behind the Rockies now for worst record :)
I think the Dodgers have 60 wins now...they only need 3 more wins to avoid 100 losses.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/29/05 at 12:27 pm
I think the Dodgers have 60 wins now...they only need 3 more wins to avoid 100 losses.
Show off! ;D ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/29/05 at 1:29 pm
^ ???
Angels got swept by the Devilrays over the weekend... now they TRAIL the Oakland A's by half a game. D-Rays have been doing quite well lately, in fact, since the All Star Break alone, they've won more than they've lost.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/29/05 at 1:37 pm
^ ???
Angels got swept by the Devilrays over the weekend... now they TRAIL the Oakland A's by half a game. D-Rays have been doing quite well lately, in fact, since the All Star Break alone, they've won more than they've lost.
I was just jokling with you, Jeff :) See, Colorado has to win 12 more to avoid the 100 loss season while you guys are quite a bit ahead of us. Yeah, Tampa has played well and Colorad also has an above .500 record since the All-Star break if I recall correctly? All that I want now is to not be the worst...KC looks like they've clinched that "Honor" :) and also avoid 100 losses and maybe even catch the Pirates or Giants so as not to finish worst in the NL ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: jiminy on 08/29/05 at 5:26 pm
TONIGHT'S BRAVES-NATIONALS GAME POSTPONED
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Traditional doubleheader scheduled for Wednesday at 4:35 p.m.
Tonight's game between the Washington Nationals and Atlanta Braves, scheduled for a 7:35 p.m. start, has been postponed due to inclement weather.
The game will be made up Wednesday, August 31 as part of a traditional doubleheader, beginning at 4:35 p.m., and Turner Field gates will open at 2:05 p.m. The second game of the doubleheader will begin approximately 30 minutes after the first game. Fans who have paid individual or group tickets for tonight's contest may exchange them for Wednesday's doubleheader or any regular-season Braves game in 2005 or 2006. Fans who have tickets for Wednesday are entitled to attend both games of the doubleheader.
Tonight's postponement marks just the seventh regular-season game to be called off in the eight-year history of Turner Field. The last game to be postponed was July 6, 2005
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/29/05 at 6:29 pm
TONIGHT'S BRAVES-NATIONALS GAME POSTPONED
Traditional doubleheader scheduled for Wednesday at 4:35 p.m.
Tonight's game between the Washington Nationals and Atlanta Braves, scheduled for a 7:35 p.m. start, has been postponed due to inclement weather.
The game will be made up Wednesday, August 31 as part of a traditional doubleheader, beginning at 4:35 p.m., and Turner Field gates will open at 2:05 p.m. The second game of the doubleheader will begin approximately 30 minutes after the first game. Fans who have paid individual or group tickets for tonight's contest may exchange them for Wednesday's doubleheader or any regular-season Braves game in 2005 or 2006. Fans who have tickets for Wednesday are entitled to attend both games of the doubleheader.
Tonight's postponement marks just the seventh regular-season game to be called off in the eight-year history of Turner Field. The last game to be postponed was July 6, 2005
That's always nice to hear about a traditional doubleheader. I HATE the new way they do it...what a rip >:(
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/29/05 at 11:49 pm
Rockies beat San Francisco 2-1 tonight :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/30/05 at 1:24 pm
I think the Dodgers have 60 wins now...they only need 3 more wins to avoid 100 losses.
Actually, they got their 60th win last night in Chicago against the Cubs, 9-6 (Sorry, Dagny :-[ ). I guess it was wishful thinking on my part.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 08/30/05 at 4:25 pm
Can someone explain this David Wells to me. Is he supposed to be that good of a player? He seems
to have a real attitude, now he's be fined or suspended or whatever and is having a temper tantrum.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/30/05 at 7:20 pm
Carpenter won his 19th for the Cards last night :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 08/30/05 at 9:54 pm
I've said it before. If Clemens get's rocked a few times, Carpenter is a dead cert for the Cy Young. Overall he's been more impressive than Clemens. Only thing with Clemens is he's given up less runs. In this day and age Clemens ERA is damn impressive. Carpenter pitches an all round better game though.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/30/05 at 10:20 pm
Dodgers blew a 3-1 lead in the 6th and the Cubs won 6-3. :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/31/05 at 9:59 am
Giants rallied to beat Colorado last night ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/31/05 at 1:43 pm
Giants rallied to beat Colorado last night ::)
...which is a bummer for two reasons: 1) they're one game closer to the Dodgers in the standings, and 2) they extend their lead over the Rockies
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: jiminy on 08/31/05 at 6:44 pm
Braves won game one of a double header 5 - 3, Andruw Jones had all 5 RBI including a 3 run homer
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 08/31/05 at 10:18 pm
Dodgers blanked the Cubs 7-0 earlier today... Derek Lowe pitched a complete game shutout and won his 9th of the year; I think he's gonna finish with a losing record. :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/02/05 at 3:41 am
Wow.
Braves had a 7-1 lead over the Nationals, which fell to 7-3, then the Nationals tied it in the 7th inning at 7-7.
Then in the bottom of the 10th inning, Andruw Jones hits a walk-off home run and the Braves win 8-7.
Glad they won, but it shouldn't have come to that.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/02/05 at 3:42 am
Hey a LOT of us are still smiling from last years ALCS, biggest choke in sports history ;D I respect that's your team though, it should be an interesting race the rest of the way :)
http://mossback.org/pitchers/arod.jpg
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/02/05 at 7:50 am
Wow.
Braves had a 7-1 lead over the Nationals, which fell to 7-3, then the Nationals tied it in the 7th inning at 7-7.
Then in the bottom of the 10th inning, Andruw Jones hits a walk-off home run and the Braves win 8-7.
Glad they won, but it shouldn't have come to that.
Jones is awesome!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/02/05 at 9:27 pm
My Rockies lead Jeff's Dodgers 5-1 in the bottom of the 4th.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/02/05 at 9:50 pm
Braves beat the Reds by a final score of 7-4.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/02/05 at 9:53 pm
Braves beat the Reds by a final score of 7-4.
Congrats to you and Jim....My Rockies have a 6-1 lead over Jeff's Dodgers so far, in the top of the 6th.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/03/05 at 1:04 am
Congrats to you and Jim....My Rockies have a 6-1 lead over Jeff's Dodgers so far, in the top of the 6th.
And your team ended up winning 11-3. :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/03/05 at 10:03 am
And your team ended up winning 11-3. :-\\
I was just happy to see former rookie of the year candidate Clint Barmes return from a broken collarbone, though he went 0-5. Also, it appears the stupid detractors of my Rockies will be right about at least one of the 4 things. They probably will end up last in the west but I still have hopes they won't be the worst in the NL, woerst in both leagues AND will aviod 100 losses :) Hey, you guys get 2 more games against us this weekend, so as always, good luck and may the best team win :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/03/05 at 1:11 pm
... so as always, good luck and may the best team win :)
Thanks ;)
And I think you guys will be coming back to Dodger Stadium later this month.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/03/05 at 2:39 pm
Thanks ;)
And I think you guys will be coming back to Dodger Stadium later this month.
No problem. Yeah, I'm sure you guys will turn the tables on us :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/03/05 at 8:52 pm
Braves beat the Reds again today.
Final score:
Braves: 9
Reds: 3
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/03/05 at 9:28 pm
Braves beat the Reds again today.
Final score:
Braves: 9
Reds: 3
Congrats...and you didn't miss much of the beginning of that game as Colorado finished off CSU a few minutes into it ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/04/05 at 11:01 am
No problem. Yeah, I'm sure you guys will turn the tables on us :D
Well, you guys beat us with 11 runs again... :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/04/05 at 2:26 pm
Well, you guys beat us with 11 runs again... :-\\
BUT so far today there's no score...in the 2nd ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/05/05 at 1:33 am
BUT so far today there's no score...in the 2nd ;)
Well... for the second time this year, my team gets swept by a last-place team. (The only other time was back in June, in KC against the team with the worst record.) This time it was 7-6 in ten innings.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/05/05 at 10:03 am
Well... for the second time this year, my team gets swept by a last-place team. (The only other time was back in June, in KC against the team with the worst record.) This time it was 7-6 in ten innings.
We're almost not a last place team anymore...we have the Pirates within reach in the NL :) As for you guys Jeff, I fully expect you will be breaking out the brooms for us next series :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/05/05 at 6:44 pm
The Atlanta Braves beat the New York Mets today by a final score of 4-2 thanks to a Chipper Jones home run in the bottom of the 8th inning.
Can you say 14 straight?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/05/05 at 7:07 pm
Can you say 14 straight?
If you can say NL runners up
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/05/05 at 8:09 pm
If you can say NL runners up
Hey Alchoholica, you changed your name.
Can you say most winningest team since 1991?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/05/05 at 8:15 pm
Hey Alchoholica, you changed your name.
Can you say most winningest team since 1991?
What, the Cardinals ???
I don't think they're gonna break any records this year. They're been playing with the srubs for months.
They beat the Cu**s today ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/05/05 at 8:23 pm
What, the Cardinals ???
I don't think they're gonna break any records this year. They're been playing with the srubs for months.
They beat the Cu**s today ;D
No the Braves. If you take every team's record from 1991-now and combine each year's records, the Atlanta Braves have the most wins.
Completely
Useless
Before
September
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/05/05 at 8:26 pm
No the Braves. If you take every team's record from 1991-now and combine each year's records, the Atlanta Braves have the most wins.
Completely
Useless
Before
September
Really? I guess they have always been a consistent team. Good enough to win near 100 or over.. but just not good enough to win it all.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/05/05 at 9:39 pm
The Braves can have the best record since whenever, all the division titles in a row....the questionable strike zone and on and on, all I care about is the fact they only have ONE title to brag about, but hey, they DO deserve congrats for that ;) It has been quite a while since St. Louis won it but are they still 2nd onlt to the wankees for most World Series wins??
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/05/05 at 9:55 pm
The Braves can have the best record since whenever, all the division titles in a row....the questionable strike zone and on and on, all I care about is the fact they only have ONE title to brag about, but hey, they DO deserve congrats for that ;) It has been quite a while since St. Louis won it but are they still 2nd onlt to the wankees for most World Series wins??
They are indeed.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/05/05 at 9:59 pm
They are indeed.
;) I think they have 22
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/05/05 at 11:13 pm
;) I think they have 22
The Wankees have won 26 World Series titles ::) and hopefully no more for a long time...
The second-most WS championships for any one franchise is 9... shared by the Athletics and Cardinals.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/06/05 at 1:29 pm
Oh, and the Jints beat my Dodgers 2-1 yesterday. SF took a 1-0 lead on a 5th-inning error by the third baseman, and LA later tied the game, but Brazobum gave up a run in the 8th.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/07/05 at 11:37 am
Colorado won thier 4th straight beating the division leading Padres again last night. With the 6-5 loss San Diego drops below .500 again :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/07/05 at 11:43 am
Well....the Dodgers ended a 4-game skid by beating the Jints 4-2 in the 10th, thanks to a walk-off 2-run HR by Jeff Kent; this ended the still-babyless Jints' 6-game win streak.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/07/05 at 11:48 am
Well....the Dodgers ended a 4-game skid by beating the Jints 4-2 in the 10th, thanks to a walk-off 2-run HR by Jeff Kent; this ended the still-babyless Jints' 6-game win streak.
That's always nice to hear, Jeff :) Hey, Colorado is currently and FINALLY not the worst team in the NL :D :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/07/05 at 12:10 pm
That's always nice to hear, Jeff :) Hey, Colorado is currently and FINALLY not the worst team in the NL :D :)
that's right...I think the Pirates are now...we'll be hosting them Sept.23-26
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/07/05 at 11:11 pm
that's right...I think the Pirates are now...we'll be hosting them Sept.23-26
On to the 8th....Colorado trails SD 3-2 :-\\ The Pirates did lose today though
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/08/05 at 1:42 am
The Braves swept the Mets today.
14 straight!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/08/05 at 11:28 am
Once again, the Dodgers came from behind to beat the Jints...this time it was 9-8 in 9 innings. In all three games of this series, the pitcher of record has been Yhency Brazoban.
Edit: This was their 63rd win... now they can't lose 100 games! :D Let's see if they can win 10 more to avoid losing 90...
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/08/05 at 11:44 pm
No Braves today.
And what happened to jiminy?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/09/05 at 2:03 pm
No Braves today.
And what happened to jiminy?
He got banned from the forum last week; apparently he had been posting too much offensive stuff in Playful Penguin Place... and his account, I guess, got deleted by the mods.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/09/05 at 6:34 pm
Rockies lost a close one to San Diego last night. Hopefully we can pick up a few wins over Arizona this weekend.....St. Louis continues to roll AND last night Cleveland overtook the Yanks for the wild-card lead :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/09/05 at 9:10 pm
last night Cleveland overtook the Yanks for the wild-card lead :)
Far out!! :D 8)
Yesterday the Angels beat the Red Sox to avoid a sweep and maintain a lead in the A.L. West. Today they begin a series in Chicago against the A.L. Central-leading White Sox...haven't checked the score on that one yet.
In about half an hour the Dodgers begin a weekend series at home against the N.L. West-leading Padres, who have been flirting with the .500 mark.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: bbigd04 on 09/09/05 at 11:20 pm
Indians win again tonight beating the Twins 4-2 and maintain their 1/2 game lead over the Yankees in the AL Wild Card race.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/10/05 at 4:17 pm
Well...I think the Dodgers are definitely going to finish with a losing record for the first time this millennium. They were handed another one last night, 3-1, by the Padres...
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/10/05 at 10:54 pm
Braves beat the Nationals by a final score of 4-0 today.
Magic number is now 15.
All together now: 14 straight division championchips!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: bbigd04 on 09/10/05 at 11:01 pm
The Indians win again, New York loses. Indians lead the AL Wild Card by 1.5 games. GO TRIBE!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/10/05 at 11:37 pm
My cards beat the Mets 4-2.. Jeff Suppan jacked one :o
When Albert jacks his next one, it will be the 200th of his career.. the guy is only 25 years old.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/11/05 at 1:07 pm
Yep I was happy to see my Cardinals win but not having my Rockies lose to Arizona again ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/11/05 at 11:18 pm
When Albert jacks his next one, it will be the 200th of his career.. the guy is only 25 years old.
...same age as me! :) That's amazing.. (Of course, there are some current players who are younger than me now.)
As I said on the "Last thing you saw on TV" thread, the Cleveland Indians swept the Minnesota Twinkies this evening, 12 to 4. GO TRIBE!! :D
And speaking of A.L. sweeps, the Angels completed a 3-game sweep of the Chicago White Sox earlier today, winning 6-1.
And the Dodgers took two of three from the Padres; yesterday was a 3-1 win for them (Derek Lowe got his long-awaited 10th win), and today they won 7-3 to put the Pods back at the .500 mark.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/12/05 at 7:18 am
...same age as me! :) That's amazing.. (Of course, there are some current players who are younger than me now.)
As I said on the "Last thing you saw on TV" thread, the Cleveland Indians swept the Minnesota Twinkies this evening, 12 to 4. GO TRIBE!! :D
And speaking of A.L. sweeps, the Angels completed a 3-game sweep of the Chicago White Sox earlier today, winning 6-1.
And the Dodgers took two of three from the Padres; yesterday was a 3-1 win for them (Derek Lowe got his long-awaited 10th win), and today they won 7-3 to put the Pods back at the .500 mark.
AND my Rockies and Cardinals won as well. Colorado moves back into a tie with the Pirates for worst in the NL and play at LA tonight. May the best team win, as always, Jeff :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/12/05 at 2:12 pm
AND my Rockies and Cardinals won as well. Colorado moves back into a tie with the Pirates for worst in the NL and play at LA tonight. May the best team win, as always, Jeff :)
Yep. :)
In other news, Crybaby (who was activated from the DL the other day) is expected to bat 4th in the Gints' lineup today...something that I'm NOT looking foreward to. ::) ::) :P
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Tony20fan4ever on 09/12/05 at 10:03 pm
I love the Home Depot commercial with Smoltz :)
I've never seen a Home Depot ad with Smoltz...but I have seen plenty of them with the NASCAR driver they sponsor!
At least Tony Stewart has not disappointed me this year..can't say the same for my fave NL team...The Phillies better get it together....SOON..or I have a feeling heads will roll!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Tony20fan4ever on 09/12/05 at 10:08 pm
Yep. :)
In other news, Crybaby (who was activated from the DL the other day) is expected to bat 4th in the Gints' lineup today...something that I'm NOT looking foreward to. ::) ::) :P
You mean whiny Barry "Steroid Addled" Bonds?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/13/05 at 1:28 pm
I've never seen a Home Depot ad with Smoltz...but I have seen plenty of them with the NASCAR driver they sponsor!
At least Tony Stewart has not disappointed me this year..can't say the same for my fave NL team...The Phillies better get it together....SOON..or I have a feeling heads will roll!
Yeah, it's pretty cool. He helps a young couple with thier lawn and leaves Atlanta's "A" on it :) Though I've never cared for the Braves, I do respect many of thier players, past and present. I'm glad to see Maddux back in Chicago and hope Glavine can eventually win #300. As for Smoltz, he seems like a nice guy and I'm happy to see him get another chance at starter.
I'm picking Houston, the Marlins or Phillies for the NL Wild Card.....we'll see.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/13/05 at 1:30 pm
Hey Jeff, congrats on LA beating up Colorado last night....I think you'll be giving the broom back to us :D ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/13/05 at 2:56 pm
Hey Jeff, congrats on LA beating up Colorado last night....I think you'll be giving the broom back to us :D ;)
thanks....yeah, Jeff Weaver pitched a complete game shutout last night ;)
You mean whiny Barry "Steroid Addled" Bonds?
Yes, that's exactly who I'm talking about. ::) At least he didn't add to his home run tally last night.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/14/05 at 9:44 am
Rockies scored 6 runs in the 2nd inning and held on to beat LA 6-4 last night....sorry, Jeff. AND more bad news for both of us, San Fran beat the Padres to draw within 5 games. Just the thought of seeing Baby Bonds in the post season gives me chills :P
St. Louis won and so did the Indians :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/14/05 at 4:26 pm
Rockies scored 6 runs in the 2nd inning and held on to beat LA 6-4 last night....sorry, Jeff. AND more bad news for both of us, San Fran beat the Padres to draw within 5 games. Just the thought of seeing Baby Bonds in the post season gives me chills :P
St. Louis won and so did the Indians :)
He'd only be in the postseason if the Jints win the division or the wildcard...hopfully that WON'T happen.
More bad news: the Wankees crushed the Devilrays by a landslide last night, 17-3 >:( and gained a game on the Redsox, who lost to the Jays. But I am happy about the Cardinals and Indians both winning. :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Tony20fan4ever on 09/14/05 at 8:38 pm
Braves beat the Nationals by a final score of 4-0 today.
Magic number is now 15.
All together now: 14 straight division championchips!
Hey GWBush...the Braves are getting their butts kicked by the Phillies...the Braves are folding under pressure like a rusty lawn chair...score Phils 12, Braves 4.top of the EIGHTH inning...
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/14/05 at 10:34 pm
St. Louis won
Nope, we lost.
I'm picking Houston, the Marlins or Phillies for the NL Wild Card.....we'll see.
Well considering the wild card is a crock of sheesh ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: bbigd04 on 09/15/05 at 12:33 am
The Tribe wins again, Yanks win again as well. The AL wild card will come down to the Indians and the Yanks, the A's only real chance will be winning the AL West.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/15/05 at 12:22 pm
Ah if the Indians still had Willie Mays Hayes and Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn ;)
Colorado won last night as Corey Sullivan had 4 hits, including and 8th inning 2 run homer, and Brian Fuentes picked up his 28th save. The Rockies remain a game ahead of the Pirates, who have the worst record in the NL. I hope Colorado can get at least 4 more wins to avoid 100 losses ???
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/15/05 at 1:02 pm
Ah if the Indians still had Willie Mays Hayes and Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn ;)
Colorado won last night as Corey Sullivan had 4 hits, including and 8th inning 2 run homer, and Brian Fuentes picked up his 28th save. The Rockies remain a game ahead of the Pirates, who have the worst record in the NL. I hope Colorado can get at least 4 more wins to avoid 100 losses ???
So we lost again, huh? I did see the 8th-inning homer off Yhency Brazobum that gave Coloradio an 8-7 lead...I guess they kept it. :-\\
Also, the Angels got swept by the last place Seattle Mariners...for the 2ND time this year...only this time it was in Seattle. I just hope that they can keep Oakland out of the top spot.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/15/05 at 5:53 pm
So we lost again, huh? I did see the 8th-inning homer off Yhency Brazobum that gave Coloradio an 8-7 lead...I guess they kept it. :-\\
Also, the Angels got swept by the last place Seattle Mariners...for the 2ND time this year...only this time it was in Seattle. I just hope that they can keep Oakland out of the top spot.
Yeah, it held up :-\\ I just want us to be the spoilers to all the teams I don't...of which L.A. is not among them ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/15/05 at 10:57 pm
Ho hum...it looks like Bartolo Colon will be denied his 20th victory tonight, as the Detroit Tigers are torturing the Angels in Anaheim right now; on last look, it was 8-3 Detroit in the 5th inning. >:(
Meanwhile, up north, my DOdgers had a 5-1 lead on the Jints going to the bottom of the 3rd inning. ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/15/05 at 11:29 pm
Ho hum...it looks like Bartolo Colon will be denied his 20th victory tonight, as the Detroit Tigers are torturing the Angels in Anaheim right now; on last look, it was 8-3 Detroit in the 5th inning. >:(
Update on the Angels' game: it's now 8-6 in the 8th inning. :-\\ Tigers were batting.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: CatwomanofV on 09/16/05 at 11:56 am
Once again, my Mets never fail to disappoint me. Here they started September with a chance and then they blew it once again. I think they had only won something like 2 games this entire month. Looks like I am going to have to wait until next year-AGAIN!!! >:( >:( >:(
Cat
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/16/05 at 1:31 pm
Well well well..
The St Louis Cardinals can not lose the National League Central Division now.
The great thing is they did it at Wrigley Field, awwwww poor cubbies. ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/16/05 at 2:26 pm
I'll be cheering for the Cards in the postseason. ;)
Meanwhile, the Angels could not get Bartolo Colon off the hook as they hung on to lose, 8-6. However, the Dodgers beat up the Jints 7-1 and gave Derek Lowe his long-awaited 11th win of the season. :) We need to win 6 more games now to avoid 90 losses!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Tony20fan4ever on 09/16/05 at 6:35 pm
Nope, we lost.
Well considering the wild card is a crock of sheesh ;)
Not if the Phillies get a wild-card spot!...of course I'm a die-hard Phillies fan,being from Southern NJ...
But Atlantic City has a minor-league team...The AC Surf...not too shabby for minor leaguers..
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/16/05 at 6:55 pm
Not if the Phillies get a wild-card spot!
The Wild card is the thing that pisses me off the most about Baseball.
They take 2 teams, that weren't good enough to win the divisions they were in and put them in a position to win the whole darn thing.
Last year the Boston Red Sox were NOT the best team in Baseball, far from it, they were just good in the Post-Season.
I'm all for having two divisions in each league and doing away with the wild card, that'll sort the men from the boys
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/16/05 at 8:36 pm
The Wild card is the thing that pisses me off the most about Baseball.
They take 2 teams, that weren't good enough to win the divisions they were in and put them in a position to win the whole darn thing.
Last year the Boston Red Sox were NOT the best team in Baseball, far from it, they were just good in the Post-Season.
I'm all for having two divisions in each league and doing away with the wild card, that'll sort the men from the boys
I agree with you as far as the wild card goes...BUT 3 divisions is fine with me....the best team gets a 1st round bye and meets the winner of the series between the other 2 teams. The problem I had with the old 2 division thing was that Atlanta was in the NL WEST :o ::) among other things. AND if they REALLY want baseball to make more sense in the tradtional sense....do away with that STUPID DH rule in the AL. Wussies :P
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/16/05 at 10:22 pm
I agree with you as far as the wild card goes...BUT 3 divisions is fine with me....the best team gets a 1st round bye and meets the winner of the series between the other 2 teams. The problem I had with the old 2 division thing was that Atlanta was in the NL WEST :o ::) among other things. AND if they REALLY want baseball to make more sense in the tradtional sense....do away with that STUPID DH rule in the AL. Wussies :P
Do away with the DH for sure!
If your pitcher sucks with the bat then guess what.. deal with it.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/16/05 at 11:36 pm
Do away with the DH for sure!
If your pitcher sucks with the bat then guess what.. deal with it.
Yep, I posted a poll about the DH but had very few replies. Whoever created that DH rule should be flogged :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/16/05 at 11:52 pm
Coloraqdo beat Arizona 6-5 as Brian Fuentes picked up his 29th save :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: bbigd04 on 09/17/05 at 12:18 am
I agree with you as far as the wild card goes...BUT 3 divisions is fine with me....the best team gets a 1st round bye and meets the winner of the series between the other 2 teams. The problem I had with the old 2 division thing was that Atlanta was in the NL WEST :o ::) among other things. AND if they REALLY want baseball to make more sense in the tradtional sense....do away with that STUPID DH rule in the AL. Wussies :P
No way should they do away with the Wild Card, they should do away with divisions before the wild card, and just have the top 4 teams in the league make it, which is really what would be fair.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/17/05 at 12:58 am
Whatever... we just lost one in the 9th to the Jints....Duaner Sanchez walked the leadoff hitter, Edgardo Alfonso, to start off the bottom of the ninth with the game tied at four; a sacrifice bunt by Matheny got the lead runner to 2nd...the next guy hit a bloop single to win the game. ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/17/05 at 9:16 am
Cardinals lost to the Cubs....but Colorado, Cleveland and Boston won :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: CatwomanofV on 09/17/05 at 11:01 am
Whoo Hooo! The Mets beat the Braves. ;D ;D ;D
Cat
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/17/05 at 2:15 pm
No way should they do away with the Wild Card, they should do away with divisions before the wild card, and just have the top 4 teams in the league make it, which is really what would be fair.
Why not, the wild card team is undeserving, if they aren't good enough to win the division they're in then they obviously aren't one of the best teams.
The Indians are having a good year, and to be honest, deserve to be in the post season far more than the Padres, but alas, they aren't good enough to win the AL Central, so in my mind they shouldn't be in the post season.
I'd like to have it revert to the old system with an NL & AL East and an NL & AL east with the top team or top two teams going through. Or like Mark said keep the three divisions and the team with the best record get's a by. The only problem i have with that is that for instance, say the White Sox and the Cardinals both have amazing years.. the white sox win.. 110 the Cardinals win 111. It's not exactly all that fair for the White Sox to have to play 3-4 or 5 extra games is it?
The whole situation needs a lot of working out but in the last few years wildcard teams have won the World Series, this says a lot.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/17/05 at 11:16 pm
Well...Jeff Weaver joins the double-digit losses club as he allows a game-winning hit in the 8th inning to the Jints; this is our 81st loss...one more and we'll be guaranteed a losing record for the first time this millennium. ::)
In other baseball news, the Cardinals won today to clinch first place in the NL Central. I will definitely cheer for them in the postseason. (I have nothing against the Padres or any of the teams vying for the WC spot (Astros, Marlins, Phils) per se; it just appears that the Cards may have an advantage.) :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/18/05 at 1:00 pm
Angels won last night to extend their lead over Oakland to 2 games.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/18/05 at 2:10 pm
Rockies lost again to Arizona. Cleveland leads the wild-card but also onlt trails the White Sox by 3 and a half for the division lead :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/18/05 at 6:48 pm
Colorado appears ready to grab a win in Arizona, they lead 7-1 going into the bottom of the 9th.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/18/05 at 9:49 pm
Did they hang on to their lead?? ;)
I guess my team can kiss their playoff hopes goodbye...they lost one in SF today, 5-3. Now they're guaranteed to finish with a losing record for the first time in six years.
Angels beat the Tigers earlier today, also by a score of 5-3. However, when the 9th inning began, it was 5-1 in their favor. Scott Shields was not doing too good of a job; it took K-Rod to end it.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/20/05 at 8:57 am
Did they hang on to their lead?? ;)
I guess my team can kiss their playoff hopes goodbye...they lost one in SF today, 5-3. Now they're guaranteed to finish with a losing record for the first time in six years.
Angels beat the Tigers earlier today, also by a score of 5-3. However, when the 9th inning began, it was 5-1 in their favor. Scott Shields was not doing too good of a job; it took K-Rod to end it.
Yep, they hung on for the win, but lost last night to San Diego 8-7 ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/20/05 at 9:41 am
Cleveland beat Chicago's White Sox 7-5 and now trail them for the division lead by only 2 and a half games :) Also, Boston won AND the Yamks lost :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/20/05 at 9:49 am
Cleveland beat Chicago's White Sox 7-5 and now trail them for the division lead by only 2 and a half games :) Also, Boston won AND the Yamks lost :D
Are you sure about the Yamks? I thought I remember seeing on ESPN Bottomline yesterday that they won...I could be mistaken. :-\\
But I'm glad the Tribe and the Redsox both won. :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/20/05 at 10:03 am
Are you sure about the Yamks? I thought I remember seeing on ESPN Bottomline yesterday that they won...I could be mistaken. :-\\
But I'm glad the Tribe and the Redsox both won. :)
;D :-[ Yes....I made a typo AND a mistake with the score...they (The Yanks) won 3-2 :P Boston holds a half game lead.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/20/05 at 4:21 pm
;D :-[ Yes....I made a typo AND a mistake with the score...they (The Yanks) won 3-2 :P Boston holds a half game lead.
That's not good... :-\\ :-\\ Boston better start winning some more and the Yankes better start LOSING some more.....
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Mark215 on 09/20/05 at 4:48 pm
That's not good... :-\\ :-\\ Boston better start winning some more and the Yankes better start LOSING some more.....
True enough :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/20/05 at 9:02 pm
Colorado leads San Diego in the 4th inning.....15-0 :o :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/20/05 at 10:23 pm
Red Sox clobbered the Devilrays 15-2 to remain half a game ahead of the Yamkees (I spelt it like that on purpose), who were leading Baltimore 12-7 in the bottom of the 8th.
Meanwhile, I just read in today's L.A. Times sports section that the Angels will begin the '06 season in Seattle on April 3rd and play their home opener Friday April 7th against...yup, the Wankees. I read further that the Angels' interleague series will be against N.L. West teams...which means that next year's interleague matchups will be primarily in corresponding divisions for the first time since '01. That means there'll be a Braves-Yankees series during the regular season. ::) :o
So I guess the D-Rays will have to wait until 2008 to come to Dodger Stadium, and the Tribe will have to wait until 2009 to report to that locality.
Which means I was wrong here...
Two years ago we swept the season in Cleveland...so if the Dodgers played in Cleveland then, the Indians would probably come to Dodger Stadium in 2007.
It'll probably be 2009.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/20/05 at 11:34 pm
Red Sox clobbered the Devilrays 15-2 to remain half a game ahead of the Yamkees (I spelt it like that on purpose)
;D Thanks, Jeff ;)
My Rockies held on for the 20-1 victory tonight! Now they need just 1 more win to avoid the 100 loss season :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/20/05 at 11:37 pm
;D Thanks, Jeff ;)
My Rockies held on for the 20-1 victory tonight! Now they need just 1 more win to avoid the 100 loss season :D
TWENTY to ONE?! :o :o Talk about a landslide! My Dodgers were the victims of a defeat by that exact score 4 years ago to the Chicago Cubbies. :-[ By the way, I haven't checked how they've done tonite since the 3rd inning; I know Derek Lowe gave up three runs to the Dbacks in the 1st inning and it remained 3-0 Arizona into the 3rd. We won't lose 100 games this year, but we still need six more wins to avoid 90 losses.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/21/05 at 12:20 pm
TWENTY to ONE?! :o :o Talk about a landslide! My Dodgers were the victims of a defeat by that exact score 4 years ago to the Chicago Cubbies. :-Yeah, it was the biggest win in Rockies history.
Sorry to report nut Arizona beat L.A. by a final of 4-1 :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/21/05 at 4:13 pm
Yeah, it was the biggest win in Rockies history. :-\\
Good for them!! :) 8)
Sorry to report but Arizona beat L.A. by a final of 4-1 :-\\
Yes they did... Derek Lowe is most likely going to finish this season with a losing record; he is now 11-14 and has two starts left, so the best he can do now is 13-14. :-\\
On a positive note, Bartolo Colon got his 20th win last night as the Angels beat the Texas Rangers 2-1.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/21/05 at 10:30 pm
Oh no... Yankes won and Red Sox lost >:(
This means the Wankees are now the A.L. East division leaders! >:( :(
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/21/05 at 11:01 pm
Oh no... Yankes won and Red Sox lost >:(
This means the Wankees are now the A.L. East division leaders! >:( :(
That sucks but IF they end up in the World Series, I'll hope for a meltdown like when Arizona and Florida beat them ;) Also, Cleveland blanked Chicago ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/21/05 at 11:10 pm
Cleveland blanked Chicago WS ;D
That's good. 8) I wanna see the Tribe win the Wildcard, or better yet, the division. (White Sox are okay too, but I definitely wanta see the Indians in the postseason.)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/21/05 at 11:22 pm
That's good. 8) I wanna see the Tribe win the Wildcard, or better yet, the division. (White Sox are okay too, but I definitely wanta see the Indians in the postseason.)
That would be great. I also think the Braves lost :D :) My Rockies lost but it's just as well because SF won ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/21/05 at 11:34 pm
That would be great. I also think the Braves lost :D :) My Rockies lost but it's just as well because SF won ::)
I was watching the Phillies-Braves game on ESPN; Phils were ahead 6-3 until AndrUw Jones hit a three-run HR that tied the game at 6-all; i don't know what happened after that :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/22/05 at 9:39 am
I was watching the Phillies-Braves game on ESPN; Phils were ahead 6-3 until AndrUw Jones hit a three-run HR that tied the game at 6-all; i don't know what happened after that :-\\
Braves lost 10-6 in 10 innings.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/22/05 at 9:46 am
Braves lost 10-6 in 10 innings.
Oh yes, I found that out last night after I signed off for the evening. ;) But the Braves are most likely gonna win yet another division title ::) :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/22/05 at 5:16 pm
Oh yes, I found that out last night after I signed off for the evening. ;) But the Braves are most likely gonna win yet another division title ::) :-\\
Oh, okay. Yeah, I'd prefer they don't but like I've always said, they can have all the division titles they want as long as they never add to that lone World Series title ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/22/05 at 5:40 pm
Oh, okay. Yeah, I'd prefer they don't but like I've always said, they can have all the division titles they want as long as they never add to that lone World Series title ;)
...which happened ten years ago against the Tribe, who I desprately wanted to win. :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/22/05 at 5:44 pm
...which happened ten years ago against the Tribe, who I desprately wanted to win. :-\\
Yep. I remember it well. Manager Mike Hargrove was called up from Colorado Springs' Sky Sox, which at the time was Cleveland triple A affiliate, so I was really sad to see the Indians lose :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/23/05 at 1:09 pm
Dodgers got swept in Arizona...Duaner Sanchez gave up a 3-run walk-off home run in the 12th to lose 7-4. :-\\ Looks like they may be headed for their second 90-loss season as the L.A. Dodgers. :-[
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/24/05 at 6:03 pm
Last night Colorado led SF 6-0 and blew it to lose 7-6. We'll try again tonight ::)
Yankees already lost today and Boston leads 2-0 in the 7th :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/24/05 at 6:16 pm
Last night the Dodgers and the Angels both came from behind to win. :) Both teams play later on today.
Yankees already lost today and Boston leads 2-0 in the 7th :)
Excellent!! :D A win for the Sox would put them in a tie with NYY.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/24/05 at 6:22 pm
Last night the Dodgers and the Angels both came from behind to win. :) Both teams play later on today.
Excellent!! :D A win for the Sox would put them in a tie with NYY.
Yep :) AND I hope the "White" Sox lose and the Indians continue to close in as well ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/24/05 at 9:20 pm
Sunny Kim pitched a 3 hit shutout at Coors Field as the Rockies beat San Fran 6-0 :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/25/05 at 12:27 pm
Well...Erin's Pirates got their first win at Dodger Stadium since May 2, 2003, as they won 8-3...much to my dismay. :-\\ Oh well, my team's mathematically eliminated from playoff contention. We're 68-86 with eight games to play. We gotta go at least 5-3 over that stretch to avoid 90 losses...at the rate we're going it may not happen. :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/25/05 at 12:34 pm
Well...Erin's Pirates got their first win at Dodger Stadium since May 2, 2003, as they won 8-3...much to my dismay. :-\\ Oh well, my team's mathematically eliminated from playoff contention. We're 68-86 with eight games to play. We gotta go at least 5-3 over that stretch to avoid 90 losses...at the rate we're going it may not happen. :-\\
I'm sorry to hear about that, Jeff. Though I am happy that my Rockies are a agme and a half ahead of Pittsburgh from being the worst in the NL and have closed to within 4 games of you guys. What a year though, huh :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/25/05 at 12:36 pm
For the second year running.. September has been...
CARDINAL SELF DESTRUCT MONTH!
*Come down to Busch Stadium and watch your NL Central winning Cardinals get beaten from pillar to post by sub-standard teams*
;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/25/05 at 12:38 pm
I'm sorry to hear about that, Jeff. Though I am happy that my Rockies are a agme and a half ahead of Pittsburgh from being the worst in the NL and have closed to within 4 games of you guys. What a year though, huh :-\\
Yeah...we actually won 12 of our first 14 games of the season...but we went downhill from there. We should've beaten the Kansas City Royals (who have clinched the worst record already) at least once back in June. We may have to wait until 2009 to do that. :-\\
The Angels are doing well; they're 4 games ahead of the Oakland A's in the A.L. West. 8) But they still beat us 5 out of 6 times this year. ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/25/05 at 3:12 pm
Yeah...we actually won 12 of our first 14 games of the season...but we went downhill from there. We should've beaten the Kansas City Royals (who have clinched the worst record already) at least once back in June. We may have to wait until 2009 to do that. :-\\
The Angels are doing well; they're 4 games ahead of the Oakland A's in the A.L. West. 8) But they still beat us 5 out of 6 times this year. ::)
For the second year running.. September has been...
CARDINAL SELF DESTRUCT MONTH!
*Come down to Busch Stadium and watch your NL Central winning Cardinals get beaten from pillar to post by sub-standard teams*
;D
Hey, they're actually winning 2-0 in the 8th ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/25/05 at 3:14 pm
Yeah...we actually won 12 of our first 14 games of the season...but we went downhill from there. We should've beaten the Kansas City Royals (who have clinched the worst record already) at least once back in June. We may have to wait until 2009 to do that. :-\\
The Angels are doing well; they're 4 games ahead of the Oakland A's in the A.L. West. 8) But they still beat us 5 out of 6 times this year. ::)
Well, I'm just happy that the Rockies bashers were wrong about the 100 losses and the worst record :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/25/05 at 8:12 pm
Well, I'm just happy that the Rockies bashers were wrong about the 100 losses and the worst record :)
Me too. Hey, the Dodgers won today, beating the Pirates 9-2. 8) Angels lost though, as Bartolo Colon was denied his 21st victory. :-\\
Unfortunately in the A.L. East, the Wanks and Redsox remain in a tie for the lead as both teams won.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: bbigd04 on 09/25/05 at 11:05 pm
The Indians lost a tough one today 5-4, an error, the center fielder losing a ball in the sun, a home run, wild pitch, and it all added up to a loss. It was just not a good day for the tribe, coupled with Red Sox, Yankees, and White Sox wins. Hopefully we can take care of tampa bay this week.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/26/05 at 2:17 pm
The Indians lost a tough one today 5-4, an error, the center fielder losing a ball in the sun, a home run, wild pitch, and it all added up to a loss. It was just not a good day for the tribe, coupled with Red Sox, Yankees, and White Sox wins. Hopefully we can take care of tampa bay this week.
Yeah, yesterday sucked but I'm pulling for Cleveland all week. Hopefully the Yankees will not win the East OR get the wild-card. I'd love for Cleveland to overtake Chicago....we'll see :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 09/26/05 at 4:31 pm
They had Derek Jeter on "60 Minutes" last night. No matter what you think
of the Yankees there isn't any doubt he is sooooo hot!!!! ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/26/05 at 5:17 pm
The Indians lost a tough one today 5-4, an error, the center fielder losing a ball in the sun, a home run, wild pitch, and it all added up to a loss. It was just not a good day for the tribe, coupled with Red Sox, Yankees, and White Sox wins. Hopefully we can take care of tampa bay this week.
And to the Royals too.
If the Braves beat the Rockies tonight, and the Mets beat the Phillies, we will have locked the NL East. If nothing else our magic number is only two, so it's in all likelyhood going to be this week.
14 STRAIGHT!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/26/05 at 6:19 pm
In about three hours, the Dodgers and Pirates are supposed to play the finale of a four-game series, but since it's been raining today I wonder if it's gonna happen. I'm guessing the game will be played.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/26/05 at 9:26 pm
They had Derek Jeter on "60 Minutes" last night. No matter what you think
of the Yankees there isn't any doubt he is sooooo hot!!!! ::)
I can't say that but I can say that he seems like a nice guy :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/26/05 at 11:50 pm
Rockies put the Braves 14th straight division title on hold, at least until tomorrow, with a 6-5 win :) White Sox lost as well :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/27/05 at 4:09 pm
Dodgers took three out of four from Erin's Pirates as we won last night 9-4 :)
Angels reduced their magic # for clinching the A.L. West division to 2 as they beat the Oaklands 4-3; if they win tonight then they've won the division!! :D 8)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/27/05 at 11:18 pm
Well...on last check, the Angels were leading the Oakland A's 4-2 in the top of the 9th...get ready for the champagne!!
And in L.A., the Deebacks broke a scoreless tie and went up 2-0 in the 8th. >:( Guess we won't have a 15 game winner this year. :-\\ Unless Jeff Weaver starts the final game of the season Sunday in Petco Park.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/27/05 at 11:28 pm
14 STRAIGHT!!!!!!
First: the Astros
Second: the Cardinals
Then we win the world series after finishing off the Angels
My prediction.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/27/05 at 11:34 pm
^Yep, the Phils lost...so you guys have done it yet again! (No offense, but I don't much care one way or the other.) :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/28/05 at 8:52 am
In the Rockies come from behind win over Atlanta a couple nights ago, Todd Greene,a Georgia Native, hit the winning 3 run homer with his family in attendence, including his ailing father who is battling cancer.
Anyway, congrats to Atlanta and all thier fans on yet another division title. I look forward to St. Louis returning to the series though....and winning. ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/28/05 at 12:29 pm
Anyway, congrats to Atlanta and all thier fans on yet another division title. I look forward to St. Louis returning to the series though....and winning. ;)
St. Louis can't even win anymore. After clinching, they've sort of collapsed. Even players who still have something to play for, like Chris Carpenter (who wants the Cy Young), are collapsing.
How funny would it be (assuming the Astros get the wild card) if the Cardinals lost in the first round to whatever under .500 team comes out of the national league west/worst?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/28/05 at 3:09 pm
How funny would it be (assuming the Astros get the wild card) if the Cardinals lost in the first round to whatever under .500 team comes out of the national league west/worst?
I think it's gonna be the Padres who win the N.L. Worst division. They just might win it with a losing record; it is theoretically possible.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 09/28/05 at 5:30 pm
Looks like the Red Sox are going back to being the Red Sox ;D . Since I am not a Sox fan that is fine with me,
although I do love Big Papi he is everything a player should be.
http://u.univision.com/contentroot/uol/art/images/deportes/bball/2004/10/david_ortiz_mrojas3.jpg
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/28/05 at 5:44 pm
St. Louis can't even win anymore. After clinching, they've sort of collapsed. Even players who still have something to play for, like Chris Carpenter (who wants the Cy Young), are collapsing.
How funny would it be (assuming the Astros get the wild card) if the Cardinals lost in the first round to whatever under .500 team comes out of the national league west/worst?
All I can say is you could be right but fact remains for all the division titles Atlanta has won they have just ONE WS Title, so they basically collapse in the playoffs almost every year. If the Cards don't win I'd love to see the Indians, granted they make it, Boston or anyone else as long as it's not the Braves or the Yanks ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/28/05 at 6:43 pm
All I can say is you could be right but fact remains for all the division titles Atlanta has won they have just ONE WS Title, so they basically collapse in the playoffs almost every year. If the Cards don't win I'd love to see the Indians, granted they make it, Boston or anyone else as long as it's not the Braves or the Yanks ::)
I agree...I just hope it doesn't come down to a Braves-Wanks series. >:( It's no fun to see them together.
I'm okay with just about all the other teams that do have a shot. Cards, Indians, Padres, Red Sox...any one of them is perfectly fine with me if the Angels don't survive the playoffs.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chad09 on 09/28/05 at 6:48 pm
14 STRAIGHT!!!!!!
First: the Astros
Second: the Cardinals
Then we win the world series after finishing off the Angels
My prediction.
I'm a Huge Braves fan myself, but why on earth do you think the Angels are getting to the WS? You're nuts if you think they are getting past New York or Boston, or even Cleveland for that matter
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/28/05 at 6:53 pm
Hey, the Angels won the WS three years ago. They vanquished the Wankees in the Division Series :D and went on to wipe out the Minnesota Twinkies...and then overcame a 5-0 deficit in Game Six of the WS against the San Francisco Jints to force a game 7 and win that one. ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chad09 on 09/28/05 at 7:55 pm
Hey, the Angels won the WS three years ago. They vanquished the Wankees in the Division Series :D and went on to wipe out the Minnesota Twinkies...and then overcame a 5-0 deficit in Game Six of the WS against the San Francisco Jints to force a game 7 and win that one. ;D
Who Cares, the point is, the Angels have been "Collapsing" this past month while the Yankees and Indians have both turned it on and are now on a roll
I just pray that the Angels get eliminated in the first round so I don't have to hear from their Arrogant, Snobby, Clueless Fans with their stupid Rally Monkey. How Pathetic
They might as well just cancel the ALDS and move straight to the ALCS with the Yankees/Red Sox, atleast THAT would be entertaining
I can't stand "West Coast" Fans, such snobby attitudes
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/28/05 at 10:15 pm
I'm a Huge Braves fan myself, but why on earth do you think the Angels are getting to the WS? You're nuts if you think they are getting past New York or Boston, or even Cleveland for that matter
Who Cares, the point is, the Angels have been "Collapsing" this past month while the Yankees and Indians have both turned it on and are now on a roll
I just pray that the Angels get eliminated in the first round so I don't have to hear from their Arrogant, Snobby, Clueless Fans with their stupid Rally Monkey. How Pathetic
They might as well just cancel the ALDS and move straight to the ALCS with the Yankees/Red Sox, atleast THAT would be entertaining
I can't stand "West Coast" Fans, such snobby attitudes
Hey Chad, you need to pray a LOT harder for your Braves, man. 14 straight division titles and only 1 WS title to show for it. I'd be embarrassed ::) I can't stand the Braves but at least will admit they have talent, just not enough to get over the hump. I also admit that my Rockies are horrible and have never won anything. See that's what it's like in the real world. The Braves used to get a HUGE strike-zone to mess with and yet when ESPN aired a special showing the umps giving the advantage to Brave's pitchers, it was cather Javier Lopez who squirted tears as he denied it all. BUT back to my point.....Atlanta is NOT all that great, just like I'll be the first to admit Colorado isn't either. Sorry you've had a bad experience with California fans but just roll with it and who knows....after all the bragging about that string of division titles, Atlanta can win another title....someday ;) Meanwhile, I'm rooting for St. Louis (My all-time fave before Colorado was born), Cleveland (who is falling apart lately), and Boston....or to again summarize...as long as anyone but the Yankees or Braves win it all, I'll be happy. In closing I will wish your team the best, for your sake.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/28/05 at 11:44 pm
Also, to Guest Chad: I have been a west coast resident all my life, so please show some respect for that. I do not think I have a "snobby" attitude. However, I do wish your team well; may the best one win, whoever it may turn out to be. :-X
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chad09 on 09/29/05 at 12:10 am
Figures the Padres had to clinh the NL Worst. That's yet another bunch of Arrogant Southern California Fans we have to put up with during the playoffs
Oh well, the Cardinals will sweep them anyway
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/29/05 at 12:11 am
We shall see what happens....
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/29/05 at 7:11 am
Figures the Padres had to clinh the NL Worst. That's yet another bunch of Arrogant Southern California Fans we have to put up with during the playoffs
Oh well, the Cardinals will sweep them anyway
I'd much rather deal with them than that annoying "Tomahawk Chop" chant...oh well, here's to Atlanta going for 15 straight division titles next year ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/29/05 at 9:58 am
I'd much rather deal with them than that annoying "Tomahawk Chop" chant...oh well, here's to Atlanta going for 15 straight division titles next year ;)
I find the tomohawk chant annoying too; that's the only reason why I personally detest the Braves. ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/29/05 at 12:25 pm
I find the tomohawk chant annoying too; that's the only reason why I personally detest the Braves. ::)
Hey but I actually love that they are bragging about all those division titles. Big woop, all that and 1 ring is all they have....aaaaaa,aaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaa ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/29/05 at 2:09 pm
I just hope the Redsox win today and the Wankees lose today. If the Wankees end up winning the A.L. East divison I will http://www.inthe00s.com/smilies/puke.gif.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: CatwomanofV on 09/29/05 at 2:12 pm
I find the tomohawk chant annoying too; that's the only reason why I personally detest the Braves. ::)
That's not the ONLY reason why I personally detest the Braves.
Cat
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Comcast Sux on 09/29/05 at 2:30 pm
Thats not so much the Braves as their FANS!  :-[ ::) :-[ ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/29/05 at 5:58 pm
Thats not so much the Braves as their FANS! :-Yeah but like Cat said, that's not the ONLY reason :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/29/05 at 10:57 pm
Hmmm...seems like the Tribe is gonna have to settle for the wildcard spot; I'm hopin' that's the case. :) Too bad the Red Sox trail the NYY's by a game (both teams won today). :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/29/05 at 11:48 pm
Too bad the Red Sox trail the NYY's by a game (both teams won today). :-\\
COME ON YOU IRISH!!!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/29/05 at 11:54 pm
COME ON YOU IRISH!!!
Say what? ???
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 09/30/05 at 12:00 am
Say what? ???
::) Boston.. south side in particular.. is very much Irish.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/30/05 at 12:01 am
::) Boston.. south side in particular.. is very much Irish.
Hmmph...didn't know that. Maybe because I've never been there. :-\\ Thanks for the info. ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/30/05 at 9:02 am
I just found out that the Dodgers got swept by the Deebacks...AGAIN! >:( This may definitely be the Dodgers' first 90-loss season since losing 99 in 1992. The only way they can avoid it now is if they sweep the Padres in San Diego this weekend...in which case the Pods would win the division with a losing record, becoming the first team ever to do so.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: CatwomanofV on 09/30/05 at 11:56 am
Hmmph...didn't know that. Maybe because I've never been there. :-\\ Thanks for the info. ;)
That is why their basketball team is called the Celtics.
Cat
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/30/05 at 4:13 pm
That is why their basketball team is called the Celtics.
Cat
Your Mets shutout my Rockies last night, Cat :o
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 09/30/05 at 5:30 pm
::) Boston.. south side in particular.. is very much Irish.
Actually the Irish enclaves in Boston are South Boston (Southie) , and in Charlestown , people from Charlestown are called Townies. ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/30/05 at 6:18 pm
The only way the Yankes will NOT be in the postseason is if the Red Sox sweep 'em this weekend AND for the Tribe to sweep the White Sox.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/30/05 at 6:20 pm
The only way the Yankes will NOT be in the postseason is if the Red Sox sweep 'em this weekend AND for the Tribe to sweep the White Sox.
Really? I thought Cleveland could catch the Yankees winning 2 of 3 and NY losing 2 of 3 ??? I'm too lazy to grab the paper and figure it out ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 09/30/05 at 6:57 pm
Really? I thought Cleveland could catch the Yankees winning 2 of 3 and NY losing 2 of 3 ??? I'm too lazy to grab the paper and figure it out ::)
Well I saw that Boston and Cleveland were tied for the wildcard spot at 93-66, with the Wankees at 94-65. So if Boston wins all three games, they'll finish at 96-66, the Wanks at 94-68, and if the Indians sweep CWS, they'll finish at 96-66 as well. But if the Red Sox win two out of three from NYY, they'll end up tied at 95-67. In summary:
AL East (current):
NYY 94-65
BOS 93-66 (1 GB)
AL Wildcard (current):
BOS 93-66
CLE 93-66
And if Boston sweeps the Yankes and Cleveland sweeps the Whitesox, here's how it'll end up:
AL East:
BOS 96-66
NYY 94-68
AL Wildcard:
CLE 96-66
BOS, even though they'd also be 96-66, would technically be out of the WC because they'd win the East. Since Cleveland is in the Central Divison, the East race wouldn't matter to them.
But if the Indians sweep the White Sox, and the Red Sox take two of three, here's how it'd end up:
AL East:
BOS 95-67
NYY 95-67
AL Wildcard:
CLE 96-66 (win)
BOS/NYY 95-67...they'd probably have a playoff game to see which one would win the AL East Division.
Now if Boston wins 2 of 3 and Cleveland wins 2 of 3, then Boston, Cleveland, and NYY would all be tied at 95-67; I don't know the plans for that scenario.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/30/05 at 8:02 pm
Well I saw that Boston and Cleveland were tied for the wildcard spot at 93-66, with the Wankees at 94-65. So if Boston wins all three games, they'll finish at 96-66, the Wanks at 94-68, and if the Indians sweep CWS, they'll finish at 96-66 as well. But if the Red Sox win two out of three from NYY, they'll end up tied at 95-67. In summary:
AL East (current):
NYY 94-65
BOS 93-66 (1 GB)
AL Wildcard (current):
BOS 93-66
CLE 93-66
And if Boston sweeps the Yankes and Cleveland sweeps the Whitesox, here's how it'll end up:
AL East:
BOS 96-66
NYY 94-68
AL Wildcard:
CLE 96-66
BOS, even though they'd also be 96-66, would technically be out of the WC because they'd win the East. Since Cleveland is in the Central Divison, the East race wouldn't matter to them.
But if the Indians sweep the White Sox, and the Red Sox take two of three, here's how it'd end up:
AL East:
BOS 95-67
NYY 95-67
AL Wildcard:
CLE 96-66 (win)
BOS/NYY 95-67...they'd probably have a playoff game to see which one would win the AL East Division.
Now if Boston wins 2 of 3 and Cleveland wins 2 of 3, then Boston, Cleveland, and NYY would all be tied at 95-67; I don't know the plans for that scenario.
Thanks Jeff :) Yeah, I don't know about the tie-breaker with the Wanks and Indians :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/30/05 at 9:29 pm
Boston won! Cleveland tied it in the bottom of the 9th.....Go Indians :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/01/05 at 1:14 am
I noticed that the Indians had a golden opportunity to bring home a winning run in the bottom of the 11th with 1 out and a 1-1 tie, but then the next batter struck out and the next guy hit into a force play at 3rd to end the inning; CWS later won it in the 13th, 3-2. ::) Bummer! >:(
Oh, and the Dogders are going to lose 90 games as the L.A. Dodgers for the second time (first in 13 years), as they were handed their 90th loss in San Diego tonight...3-1. :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/01/05 at 1:27 am
South Boston (Southie) , and in Charlestown , people from Charlestown are called Townies. ;)
As i said.. ;)
There are a bunch of O'Rourks and Carricks up there i should probably hit up for Tickets at fenway ;D
Anywho.. results tonight were ALMOST.. perfect
If the Indians could have won it would have been nice
What would be lovely, is for the Indians to win the next to, Astros to lose (yes I!! am rooting for the Cubs) Phils to win like nobodys business, Yankees to take one.. or get swept.
I'd like to see 2 or 3 playoff games so the best pitches get used up first.. I'm an evil bastard ;D
Cards kicked crap out of the Reds.
Ooooohh Adam Dunn, hear me Adam, you must come to the Cardinals next year, you must replace Reggie Sanders or Larry Walker, Adam, you would be loved in St Louis.. Adam, improve your fielding percentages and we will give you loooots of money. We're paying larry walker at least 9 or 10 million of his huge contract, we'd love to give this to you and your 50 Home run hitting bat. OOooohhh Adam Dunn! ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/01/05 at 1:35 am
Okay, here's how the undecided AL races now appear:
AL East:
Red Sox 94-66
Yankees 94-66
AL Wildcard:
Red Sox/Yankees 94-66
Indians 93-67
I guess I wasn't totally right earlier...Indians could still win the next two and wind up one game ahead of the Yankes (that is, if Boston beats 'em tomorrow and Sunday). Cuz then the Sox would finish 96-66, Yankes 94-68, and the Indians 95-67. So the Tribe still has a shot!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/01/05 at 5:47 am
I always get this mixed up, but can someone explain to me how the Playoff Matchup's are Set up?
Ok, for instance, the Cardinals have the Best Record in the National League, so would they take on the team in the National League with the Worst Record? or would they take on the Wild Card Team?
I always thought it was that the Best record played the Worst Record
So that would pretty much mean that in the 1st round, the matchups would look like this...
Cardinals -vs- Padres
Braves -vs- Astros
OR, if Phillies won the Wildcard, it would be Braves -vs- Padres, Cardinals -vs- Phillies (Since you can't face a team in the playoffs that is in your same division)
White Sox -vs- Angels
Yankees or Red Sox -vs- Indians or Yankees or Red Sox
Of course, it depends on what the Angels do also, if they end up with a worse record than the Yankees/Red Sox/Indians, than they would face the White Sox in the 1st Round
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/02/05 at 10:10 am
Now it's simple...the Yanks won the East Division and Cleveland must beat the White Sox today and hope for a Boston loss to earn a 1 game playoff for the wild-card tomorrow. In the NL Philly must win and hope for a Houston loss to force a one game playoff as well. And at or near the bottom: The Royals clinched worst long ago but today Colorado must win or at least hope for a Pirate loss to either not be worst in the NL or tie with Pittsburgh. Colorado already has clinched thier worst franchise record (Thier lst season they ended 67-95).
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/02/05 at 1:41 pm
Well it looks like the Padres are NOT gonna win the N.L. Worst with a losing record; their victory over the Dodgers on Friday night was their 81st, and the Dodgers beat 'em yesterday 2-1, so the Pods' record is now 81 and 80. They will either finish at .500 (with a loss today) or two games above .500 (if they win).
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/02/05 at 3:17 pm
I'm not liking the way these playoffs are shaping up so far
As of now, this is how the playoffs will look
Red Sox @ White Sox (In Chicago)
Yankees @ Angels (In Anaheim)
Padres @ Cardinals (In St. Louis)
Astros @ Braves (In Atlanta)
First off, I was hoping the Yankees would get Home Field over those darn Angels, hopefully the Yankees can sweep them
Secondly, I'm praying that the Astros will lose and Phillies win so Phillies have a chance at the Wild Card, so that my Braves can face the Padres, which will be easier than the Astros
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/02/05 at 3:51 pm
Crap! I hate the Damn Red Sox! >:(
Thanks to them, the Angels have Home Field >:(
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/02/05 at 6:48 pm
I'm not liking the way these playoffs are shaping up so far
I'm praying that the Astros will lose and Phillies win so Phillies have a chance at the Wild Card, so that my Braves can face the Padres, which will be easier than the Astros
Sorry to tell you but, Houston won. Though I hate the Braves and Yanks...may the best teams win :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/02/05 at 8:28 pm
Sorry to tell you but, Houston won. Though I hate the Braves and Yanks...may the best teams win :)
Cool
But I'm just curious, what are your reasons for hating the Braves and Yanks?
Because it annoys me when people say "Because their fans are Annoying and Arrogant" yet they never have a problem with teams like the Cubs and Angels (Who's fans are arguably the most Arrogant in Sports). It irritates me
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/02/05 at 8:55 pm
Anyway, I'll go ahead and make my Playoff Prediction
Division Series
Yankees (Win Series 3-1)
Angels
Red Sox (Win Series 3-1)
White Sox
Braves (Win Series 3-2)
Astros
Cardinals (Win Series 3-0)
Padres
Championship Series
Yankees (Win Series 4-3)
Red Sox
Cardinals (Win Series 4-3)
Braves
World Series
Yankees (Win Series 4-2)
Cardinals
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/03/05 at 7:33 am
Cool
But I'm just curious, what are your reasons for hating the Braves and Yanks?
Because it annoys me when people say "Because their fans are Annoying and Arrogant" yet they never have a problem with teams like the Cubs and Angels (Who's fans are arguably the most Arrogant in Sports). It irritates me
You and nobody else here included, I think Yankees and Braves fans are VERY arrogant but my reasons are much deeper than that. The Braves players and announcers also come across the same, most of the players anyway. I do like Andru Jones and have respect for Smoltz though. My biggest problem is the "Whining" that goes on. A few years ago ESPN did a feature on the Atlanta "Strike Zone" and it showed how ridiculously wide the umps let it be. Catcher Javier Lopez came out crying about it and whined to no end, yet it was true! The Yankees, while I respect people like Jeter, I have NO respect for thier resident crybaby, "Pay-Rod" especially from last years ALCS when he, on national TV no less, swatted the ball out of the 1st basemans glove and actually had the stones to complain that it was a bad call when he was called out! In my book he's always been and always will be a jerk. That's enough for now though....I just woke up and could go on and on but I'll just say best of luck to your teams as I have nothing against you personally at all ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 10/03/05 at 8:21 am
The Astros play the Atlanta Braves in the 1st round of the playoffs.......again. This matchup is so damn tiring and annoying. I'm sick of the Braves being there every year.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/03/05 at 1:54 pm
The Astros play the Atlanta Braves in the 1st round of the playoffs.......again. This matchup is so damn tiring and annoying. I'm sick of the Braves being there every year.
I LOVE seeing the Braves win thier division every year and then crash and burn in the playoffs :) Though it would be nice to see some other team in there once in a while. The Braves can brag all they want about 14 straight division titles but Florida has only 2 (?) and has already won 2 World Series Titles to the Braves 1 :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/03/05 at 2:19 pm
The Astros play the Atlanta Braves in the 1st round of the playoffs.......again. This matchup is so damn tiring and annoying. I'm sick of the Braves being there every year. ÂÂ
So am I...I'd like to see one of the other four teams win that division sometime....
When the Division Series playoffs start tomorrow, I definitely want the Angels to beat the begesus out of the Wankees, just like they did three years ago. As for the Red Sox-White Sox series, either team is okay with me. Astros-Braves, I wanna see the Stros win that one (again) and lose the NLCS to the winner of the Padres-Cards series (either team is ok with me there too).
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/04/05 at 12:05 am
So.. who is going to bow down to the man with Playoff tickets for tomorrow's Cards - Padres game ;D
I'll report in when i get home.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/04/05 at 12:27 am
You and nobody else here included, I think Yankees and Braves fans are VERY arrogant but my reasons are much deeper than that. The Braves players and announcers also come across the same, most of the players anyway. I do like Andru Jones and have respect for Smoltz though. My biggest problem is the "Whining" that goes on. A few years ago ESPN did a feature on the Atlanta "Strike Zone" and it showed how ridiculously wide the umps let it be. Catcher Javier Lopez came out crying about it and whined to no end, yet it was true! The Yankees, while I respect people like Jeter, I have NO respect for thier resident crybaby, "Pay-Rod" especially from last years ALCS when he, on national TV no less, swatted the ball out of the 1st basemans glove and actually had the stones to complain that it was a bad call when he was called out! In my book he's always been and always will be a jerk. That's enough for now though....I just woke up and could go on and on but I'll just say best of luck to your teams as I have nothing against you personally at all ;)
Apparently you have never noticed Angels Fans
I swear I can't help but feel irritated when people decide to hate the Yankees and Braves for the exact same reasons that people should hate a team like the Angels, but apparently people like you have no problem with the Angels because they are in "Hollywood" and I suppose it's supposed to be "Cool and Hip" to like them. That is, unfortunately, how America is today >:(
Thankfully I can see right through it and notice that people from Southern California are Arrogant and constantly want their butts kissed, the sad part is, you all keep doing it and giving them the satisfaction. Have your fun ::)
...and may the Best Team win
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/04/05 at 9:52 am
Well I'm just sick of both the Braves and the Yankes dominating their respective East divisions year after year; and when they both make it to the World Series (which has only happened twice in the past ten years), it's no fun to watch. (In such a case, I'd root for the Braves, but I wouldn't watch it on tv or even listen to it on the radio.)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/04/05 at 2:00 pm
Cardinals lead San Diego 8-0 in the 7th inning of game 1 :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/04/05 at 3:20 pm
Even though I'm kinda rootin' for the Pods, to see the Cardinals win would be fine with me. :) After all, most everyone's scales are probably tipping in favor of them.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/04/05 at 5:31 pm
Apparently you have never noticed Angels Fans
I swear I can't help but feel irritated when people decide to hate the Yankees and Braves for the exact same reasons that people should hate a team like the Angels, but apparently people like you have no problem with the Angels because they are in "Hollywood" and I suppose it's supposed to be "Cool and Hip" to like them. That is, unfortunately, how America is today >:(
Thankfully I can see right through it and notice that people from Southern California are Arrogant and constantly want their butts kissed, the sad part is, you all keep doing it and giving them the satisfaction. Have your fun ::)
...and may the Best Team win
I really don't care about the California teams all that much. I'm a Cardinals/Rockies fan. I'm just saying that I've never, ever liked Atlanta or the Yanks but I do respect those who do. It's just kinda funny to me how Braves fans brag about those 14 straight division titles....yes a great thing but hardly worth bragging about when all you have is one Ring to count. But you're right, may the best team win....like it or not ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 10/04/05 at 5:43 pm
Red Sox 2 White Sox 12-this is about as ugly as it gets
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/04/05 at 5:48 pm
I just checked the score on the Pods-Cards game; St. Louis won it 8-5. 8)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/04/05 at 7:41 pm
Cardinals lead San Diego 8-0 in the 7th inning of game 1 :)
Bloody good game.
I got hit with a foul ball! ;D
Reggies grandslam had the old place rockin (what a way to see her out)
A good game, even if la Russa did his goddam pitching bullcrap again.
That man is NOT popular in St Louis.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/04/05 at 8:01 pm
Did you people see and hear those CLASSLESS Angel fans after Bartolo the Fat Clown nailed A-Rod in the Back with the Baseball? What a bunch of jerks those Southern California Fans are
God I hate them
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/04/05 at 8:03 pm
Did you people see and hear those CLASSLESS Angel fans after Bartolo the Fat Clown nailed A-Rod in the Back with the Baseball? What a bunch of jerks those Southern California Fans are
God I hate them
HAHA! I was laughing at that.
IMO A-Rod deserves everything he gets.
Bartolo is a clown though.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/04/05 at 10:21 pm
Thank God, the Good Guys beat the Bad Guys
Choke on it, Angels
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/04/05 at 10:24 pm
HAHA! I was laughing at that.
IMO A-Rod deserves everything he gets.
Bartolo is a clown though.
He may have been a pain in the butt last year, but atleast this season he has kept a low profile, plus, if you noticed, he kept his cool and didn't charge the mound at all (It was a pretty hard hit to the back), instead, he actually had some class and took his base like a champ. While the crowd acted like a bunch of pansies by cheering on a guy getting hit hard with a Baseball. He could have been hit in the head really hard and the fans still would have cheered just because he plays for New York, and we all know how much those LA clowns hate New York
Anti-Americans are what they are
Oh well, Yankees Win, Hooray!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/04/05 at 10:37 pm
Well at least the Angles got two runs...it's better than nada. ::)
Did you people see and hear those CLASSLESS Angel fans after Bartolo the Fat Clown nailed A-Rod in the Back with the Baseball? What a bunch of jerks those Southern California Fans are
God I hate them
Please don't call me a jerk. I have been a southern california fan all my life, and I don't think any other CA people on here would appreciate being referred to that way. >:(
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/05/05 at 1:00 am
Anti-Americans are what they are
Because we all love the Yankees ::)
Go Vlad! ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: adam on 10/05/05 at 8:00 am
hey all you losers, just for your info, i'm going to the braves game today and they're going to kick the astros' ass...and i'm going to do the tomahawk chop as much as i want just to annoy all you fags, and don't be jealous that your team's can't set records of consecutive division titles such as atl.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 10/05/05 at 8:11 am
hey all you losers, just for your info, i'm going to the braves game today and they're going to kick the astros' ass...and i'm going to do the tomahawk chop as much as i want just to annoy all you fags, and don't be jealous that your team's can't set records of consecutive division titles such as atl.
Is there not one guest on this forum that actually knows how to use proper grammar? *shakes head in shame*. Woah, and wait, you're formulating ways to annoy a group of people you don't even know? Yep, they're the losers, alright. ::)
Beth
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/05/05 at 9:16 am
hey all you losers, just for your info, i'm going to the braves game today and they're going to kick the astros' ass...and i'm going to do the tomahawk chop as much as i want just to annoy all you fags, and don't be jealous that your team's can't set records of consecutive division titles such as atl.
I'm jealous.. that my team can't get in to the Playoffs 14 or so times in a row and only win the series once. ;D
Ya know, sheer mathamatical probability means you should have won it at least twice.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/05/05 at 12:23 pm
hey all you losers, just for your info, i'm going to the braves game today and they're going to kick the astros' ass...and i'm going to do the tomahawk chop as much as i want just to annoy all you fags, and don't be jealous that your team's can't set records of consecutive division titles such as atl.
Nice! Hey, have ALL the division titles you want...I don't care. You've got 1 pathetic WS Title to show for your 14 straight division crowns. Marlins fans can laugh at you any time as they've won 2. I'd much rather have a WS Ring than a meaningless division record streak ;D ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/05/05 at 12:25 pm
I'm jealous.. that my team can't get in to the Playoffs 14 or so times in a row and only win the series once. ;D
Ya know, sheer mathamatical probability means you should have won it at least twice.
True enough. I used to be annoyed with bragging Braves fans but now I just laugh :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/05/05 at 1:34 pm
It is bizare.
FOURTEEN TIMES! In a row, they've won that division.. it defy's logic as to why they've only won it once.
Oh well, my prediction.
Cards over the Padres
Braves over the 'stros
Whoever wins the NLCS will win the series.
The Barves don't have as good a team as the Cardinals, that's a fact, however, what with Al Reyes injured, Nunez looking a bit dodgy and of course the starting pitchers. That's something that baffles me, Carpenter basically threw away his cy young award with his last 2 starts, morris was looking at a phenominal year and self destructed, mulder has been off and on all year, marquis either shuts down the other team or they open up on him, the only consistent guy is Jeff Suppan.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/05/05 at 4:21 pm
It is bizare.
FOURTEEN TIMES! In a row, they've won that division.. it defy's logic as to why they've only won it once.
Oh well, my prediction.
Cards over the Padres
Braves over the 'stros
Whoever wins the NLCS will win the series.
The Barves don't have as good a team as the Cardinals, that's a fact, however, what with Al Reyes injured, Nunez looking a bit dodgy and of course the starting pitchers. That's something that baffles me, Carpenter basically threw away his cy young award with his last 2 starts, morris was looking at a phenominal year and self destructed, mulder has been off and on all year, marquis either shuts down the other team or they open up on him, the only consistent guy is Jeff Suppan.
It's funyy when they BRAG about it...if it were my team, I'd be embarrassed!!
My predication: Though I'd love to see St. Louis win it I really don't care who wins as long as it's not the Braves or Yankees :P
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/05/05 at 5:31 pm
^ Same here. On last check, the Astros had a 5-3 lead on the Naves going to the bottom of the 7th.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/05/05 at 5:49 pm
^ Same here. On last check, the Astros had a 5-3 lead on the Naves going to the bottom of the 7th.
Oh c'mon, it's the Atlanta Braves, winners of 14 straight division titles, and they are down 10-3 to the Astros in the bottom of the 8th! Chop-Chop ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/05/05 at 5:57 pm
Oh c'mon, it's the Atlanta Braves, winners of 14 straight division titles, and they are down 10-3 to the Astros in the bottom of the 8th! Chop-Chop ;D
That's great. I'm hoping that the Stros win.
And I'm also hoping that the Angels can force a game 4 in their series with the Yankheads by winning tonite.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/05/05 at 6:01 pm
That's great. I'm hoping that the Stros win.
And I'm also hoping that the Angels can force a game 4 in their series with the Yankheads by winning tonite.
Hey...Atlanta chopped away and scored a run to now trail 10-4 going into the 9th :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/05/05 at 6:04 pm
Hey...Atlanta chopped away and scored a run to now trail 10-4 going into the 9th :D
Hmmm...well they're down by 6 now... the odds of them coming back with three outs to go are not very likely (but ya never know).. However, it doesn't hurt for the Stros to tack on a few more insurance runs in the top of the ninth. :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/05/05 at 6:16 pm
Now it's 10-5 with 1 out as Atlanta bats....and the Red Sox lead Chicago 2-0 early.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/05/05 at 6:24 pm
Braves LOSE...Chop-CHOP....10-5 ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 10/05/05 at 9:42 pm
On the Braves vs. Astros seres---
Astros will win this series. They have become essentially a wild card franchise over the past 6 or 7 years, getting into the playoffs year after year as the wildcard team. They did win the division once, but didn't amount to anything in the playoffs. I don't think the Astros can beat St. Louis, but anything can happen.
It's great to see the Braves lose.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/06/05 at 9:46 am
In a battle of the Sox, the White ones beat the Red ones 5-4...so Boston is on the verge of early elimination as they travel to Fenway Park for game three tomorrow. :-\\
And the Angels came from behind to beat the Wankeez 5-3 last night!! :D It was 5-2 going into the ninth, but Francisco Rodriguez gave up a home run to the leadoff batter. However, he managed to get the next three guys out and win. So tomorrow they will face the Big Unit in the Bronx; let's hope that the Angels can do some damage there.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/06/05 at 10:50 am
On the Braves vs. Astros seres---
Astros will win this series. They have become essentially a wild card franchise over the past 6 or 7 years, getting into the playoffs year after year as the wildcard team. They did win the division once, but didn't amount to anything in the playoffs. I don't think the Astros can beat St. Louis, but anything can happen.
It's great to see the Braves lose.
Yeah the name calling guest must've hacked himself to pieces for now :D
In a battle of the Sox, the White ones beat the Red ones 5-4...so Boston is on the verge of early elimination as they travel to Fenway Park for game three tomorrow. :-\\
And the Angels came from behind to beat the Wankeez 5-3 last night!! :D It was 5-2 going into the ninth, but Francisco Rodriguez gave up a home run to the leadoff batter. However, he managed to get the next three guys out and win. So tomorrow they will face the Big Unit in the Bronx; let's hope that the Angels can do some damage there.
Yeah, I gave up when NY was in the lead....what a nice way to wake up, seeing that in the paper :) Boston has been down before, but I think they may be in big trouble this time. I kind of have a soft spot for the White Sox since Boston won last year and Chicago has a starting pitcher, Brandon McCarthy, who graduated from the same high school I went to here in Colorado Springs ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/06/05 at 11:31 am
I'm okay with either the Red Sox or the White Sox myself. :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/06/05 at 4:48 pm
Looks like the Cardinals are on thier way to a 2-0 lead in thier series as they lead the Padres 4-0 starting the 6th :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/06/05 at 6:06 pm
St. Louis beat San Diego 6-2 and head to California with a 2-0 series lead :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/06/05 at 7:37 pm
Mulder looks like he's back on top.
Outstanding ground ball game.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/06/05 at 10:29 pm
Mulder looks like he's back on top.
Outstanding ground ball game.
Yep! Go Cards :)
BTW, we gotta put up with the Braves fans for a while as they crushed Houston and Roger Clems tonight. Oh well, they did play great but I'm not going to have any problems with the fans until they actually win thier 2nd World Series :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/06/05 at 10:50 pm
^ Which i hope won't be for a long time. So I guess the Naves won, huh? I saw that it was 7-1 their favor in the 9th; Kyle Farnsworth was trying to close it out.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/07/05 at 12:04 am
Yep! Go Cards :)
BTW, we gotta put up with the Braves fans for a while as they crushed Houston and Roger Clems tonight. Oh well, they did play great but I'm not going to have any problems with the fans until they actually win thier 2nd World Series :D
Ya know.. i'm all for the Braves and Astros going to 5 ;D
^ Which i hope won't be for a long time. So I guess the Naves won, huh? I saw that it was 7-1 their favor in the 9th; Kyle Farnsworth was trying to close it out.
Give Farnsworth a couple years to improve his control and he is gonna be SCARY! Think the Power of Lidge added to the cool head of Gange
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/07/05 at 12:28 am
Yep! Go Cards :)
BTW, we gotta put up with the Braves fans for a while as they crushed Houston and Roger Clems tonight. Oh well, they did play great but I'm not going to have any problems with the fans until they actually win thier 2nd World Series :D
It's Pathetic that you're more worried about putting up with Braves fans than you are with Angels fans
Oh well, how are them Rockies comin' along? ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/07/05 at 12:29 am
It's Pathetic that you're more worried about putting up with Braves fans than you are with Angels fans
Oh well, how are them Rockies comin' along? ;D
Angels fans are non-entitys.. they boo A-Rod 'cus he's a jerk. trust me, A-rod could donate his entire paycheck to Tony La Russa's animal charity and he'd still get booed just stepping on the field at Busch.
Braves fan can be annoying.
We rode the Rockie's suck horse to death by July ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/07/05 at 4:24 am
All of y'all got all cocky there after that first loss, and John Smoltz comes in and shuts the Astros down. When are people going to learn, don't bet on the Braves? At the start of next year you'll hear the same broken records telling everyone why the Braves won't win the division title. It's getting more old than funny now.
Jorge Sosa pitches for the Braves on Sat. and he is a perfect 9-0 on the road.
Go Braves!
Go whoever is playing the Yankees!
Like the Rino said, the NLCS is going to be Braves-Cardinals. Braves beat the Cardinals 2 out of 3 at Turner Field and the Cardinals took 2 out of 3 at Busch. Should be really good.
First things first though, we got to remind those Astros why they are a wild card team.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/07/05 at 10:56 am
I'm hoping for a Bosox/Card series but I will see if that will happen after this weekend.
Cat
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/07/05 at 1:04 pm
I'm hoping for a Bosox/Card series but I will see if that will happen after this weekend.
Rather see a White Sox - Cards series, and i'd bet money that we will.
The Braves have good starters but they don't have a bullpen.
If Andruw Jones can be shut down then they have serious problems as Chipper, Francouer etc are quite capable of having off days.
As long as the Cards bullpen dosen't self destruct then they have the stuff to win the Series.
I'm looking at you Isringhausen!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/07/05 at 6:38 pm
Well...game three starts at Wankee Stadium in less than an hour...go Angels! (I hope they win, but The Big Unit is probably gonna shut 'em down; he had a better record during the regular season than his opponent, Paul Byrd, did.)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/07/05 at 6:42 pm
The Red Sox are now gone.
It's down to seven teams.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/07/05 at 6:47 pm
It's Pathetic that you're more worried about putting up with Braves fans than you are with Angels fans
Oh well, how are them Rockies comin' along? ;D
I'm not worried about Braves fans that bother me at all. I just think it's funny how they brag about all the division titles. As for the Rockies, first off, thier fans, including myself, admit they were bad this year but being true fans know if they can stay healthy they'll be a lot better next year. Clint Barmes was on a pace to become rookie of the year until he broke his collar-bone, the pitching is gettin better and they have an all-star closer in Brian Fuentes....and we still have Todd Helton. Lastly, I was a Cardinals fan long before the Rockies were born and still am ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/07/05 at 6:47 pm
The Red Sox are now gone.
It's down to seven teams.
So the White ones won today, huh? :-\\
Oh well... at least Boston won the WS last year, for the first time in eighty-six years.
This means that the ALCS will not be a threepeat.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/07/05 at 6:49 pm
Go whoever is playing the Yankees!
Like the Rino said, the NLCS is going to be Braves-Cardinals. Braves beat the Cardinals 2 out of 3 at Turner Field and the Cardinals took 2 out of 3 at Busch. Should be really good.
I agree with you...I am sick of the Yanks and yes, if it comes down to Cards/Braves it should be really entertaining :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/07/05 at 6:52 pm
Well...game three starts at Wankee Stadium in less than an hour...go Angels!
http://anaheim.angels.mlb.com/images/2002/08/06/5DskhCqO.jpg
So the White ones won today, huh?
Yep.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/07/05 at 8:49 pm
Chone Figgins should Burn in Hades
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/07/05 at 11:19 pm
Yankees LOSE :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/08/05 at 12:31 am
I'm right there with you....hell, I'll even buy you a ticket ;)
DAMN STRAIGHT!
That's 2 i've accumulated (yes i have a hold on series tickets) now to buy some for myself ;D
If your gonna do something.. you gotta do it right.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/08/05 at 3:54 pm
It was rained out in New York today.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/08/05 at 6:51 pm
...which means that the game will be made up tomorrow, I forget what time. :-\\
I did enjoy seeing the Wanks lose yesterday. :D Angels took an early 5-0 lead but it evaporated in the 4th inning; Yankes even went ahead 6-5, but the Angels retook the lead and kept it.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/08/05 at 8:43 pm
God, I hate Baseball. Nothing EVER goes my way....EVER >:(
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/08/05 at 9:03 pm
I Give Up
btw, Since this crap happens every single year and every team I hate ends up winning the championship, I'll just spoil it for you already. The Angels OR the Astros will end up winning the whole thing. And it will happen simply just because I hate them
When it comes to sports, God loves to Spite me
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/08/05 at 10:04 pm
Braves LOSE game 3, 7-3! 'Stros are just one game away from giving Atlanta yet another meltdown after another division title :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/08/05 at 11:01 pm
Cardinals are kicking the crap out of the Padres 5-0 :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/09/05 at 12:23 pm
Cardinals are kicking the crap out of the Padres 5-0 :)
And they completed a sweep, winning 7-4. ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/09/05 at 3:51 pm
Houston got a grand slam in the 8th and then former Rockie Brad Ausmus hit a solo shot in the 9th as the Astros have come back from 6-1 down to tie Atlanta. It's now in the bottom of the 11th :) And now it's in the 12th.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/09/05 at 4:52 pm
And on to the 15th!!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/09/05 at 5:42 pm
Longest post season game...and it continues in the 17th :o
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/09/05 at 6:02 pm
Well it took 18 innings but it was WELL worth the wait as the Braves Lose 7-6!! "America's Team" my @ss ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/09/05 at 6:05 pm
Braves lose.
Oh well, another great season in the books.
Go Cardinals.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/09/05 at 6:06 pm
Well it took 18 innings but it was WELL worth the wait as the Braves Lose 7-6!! "America's Team" my @ss ;D
Come on, don't do that. I wouldn't run it in your face if the Rockies made it to the play-offs and lost to some wild card team.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/09/05 at 6:13 pm
Come on, don't do that. I wouldn't run it in your face if the Rockies made it to the play-offs and lost to some wild card team.
That was directed soley at the guest who was calling us all names a few posts back....to you and Jiminy: I'm sorry you guys lost :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 10/09/05 at 7:34 pm
Come on, don't do that. I wouldn't run it in your face if the Rockies made it to the play-offs and lost to some wild card team.
The Astros were a wild card team, but the Braves played like the lower level wild card team. You're Braves stink. The Astros deserved to win that classic 18 inning game, and they played much better, deserving to win the series.
And they did. :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/09/05 at 7:41 pm
The Astros were a wild card team, but the Braves played like the lower level wild card team. You're Braves stink. The Astros deserved to win that classic 18 inning game, and they played much better, deserving to win the series.
And they did. :)
Yes but as a good sport, I don't knock people I like here about thier team losing. Like GW said, I wouldn't like it if my Rockies lost to some wild-card team and then had my faced rubbed in it. My hatred for the Braves goes much deeper with years and years of listening to that stupid tomohawk chant, to former catcher Lopez getting mad about a story on the Braves special strike zone, to Bobby Cox beating his wife and nothing being done, to listening to my ex brother in lasw BRAG, BRAG, BRAG about how great they are to last but not least, Atlanta being called "America's Team"....like the Cowpies, the people that think that couldn't be more wrong. But as I said, I have nothing against GW or Jiminy, just the stuff I mentioned and the "Guest" who came in bragging and calling us all names. THAT is who I sit here and laugh at now ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/09/05 at 7:45 pm
The strike zone in the game was fuc*in ridiculous. That umpire had money on the Astro's, i'm telling you right now.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/09/05 at 7:48 pm
The strike zone in the game was fuc*in ridiculous. That umpire had money on the Astro's, i'm telling you right now.
If that's true then all I can say is what comes around, goes around. Atlanta had thier special strike zone for YEARS ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/09/05 at 8:03 pm
If that's true then all I can say is what comes around, goes around. Atlanta had thier special strike zone for YEARS ::)
I'm not disputing then. I'm disputing now. I'm all about fair baseball and that was not fair baseball.
Plus, i'm all about Atlanta in that series. The Astros proved over the course of the season that they weren't as good as the Cardinals who won that division. Thus they should not be in a competition to see who is the best team in Baseball.
Clear the way Purist coming through ;D
Personally.. give me a gun and i'll sort out the problem. His name is Bud Selig and he is in co-horts with the devil.. the devil's name is Al.. Al 'The mad Hungarian' Rabawsky (sp?) and they must both be stapled to home plate ;D
I'm sorry, i get carried away, i just despise them both.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Kenlos on 10/09/05 at 8:15 pm
The Braves throw it away plain and simple. They deserved to lose it and they can't blame it on the inexperance of the rookies as the rookies for the most part are who kept them in the series in the first place. The veterans didn't come there and the bullpen continued to blow leads as it did the regular season. Good luck to the Astros in the rest of the playoffs. Also go Angels and knock off those Yankees tonight.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/09/05 at 8:18 pm
I'm not disputing then. I'm disputing now. I'm all about fair baseball and that was not fair baseball.
Plus, i'm all about Atlanta in that series. The Astros proved over the course of the season that they weren't as good as the Cardinals who won that division. Thus they should not be in a competition to see who is the best team in Baseball.
Clear the way Purist coming through ;D
Personally.. give me a gun and i'll sort out the problem. His name is Bud Selig and he is in co-horts with the devil.. the devil's name is Al.. Al 'The mad Hungarian' Rabawsky (sp?) and they must both be stapled to home plate ;D
I'm sorry, i get carried away, i just despise them both.
Thing for me is, sure I'd be upset if someone rubbed my face in it when the Rockies lost...point is, Colorado has never bragged about anything, though they haven't had much TO brag about, but I don't think our franchise would ever brag about winning division titles and only 1 ws, Atlanta goes WAY overboard trying to shove thier crap down everybody's throats....much like the Dallas Cowpies. Not many proclaim to be "America's Team"....that all :-\\
BTW it's Hrabosky ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Kenlos on 10/09/05 at 8:26 pm
Thing for me is, sure I'd be upset if someone rubbed my face in it when the Rockies lost...point is, Colorado has never bragged about anything, though they haven't had much TO brag about, but I don't think our franchise would ever brag about winning division titles and only 1 ws, Atlanta goes WAY overboard trying to shove thier crap down everybody's throats....much like the Dallas Cowpies. Not many proclaim to be "America's Team"....that all :-\\
BTW it's Hrabosky ;)
Winning 14 straight Division titles is not exactly easy as no other team in the history of any sport has won anywhere close to as many in a row as the Braves. So what they only have 1 WS title in that time, today it is much harder to win a WS than it was 20 years ago with the playoffs having been expended and such. I can promise you that if any team in any sport won 14 straight division titles (even if they only won 1 championship) they would be bragging to. The season is 162 games long and that is a long time to keep winning (considering injuries and such) and to do that 14 years in a row for 162 games each year is amazing even if they only have the one title.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/09/05 at 8:27 pm
Thing for me is, sure I'd be upset if someone rubbed my face in it when the Rockies lost...point is, Colorado has never bragged about anything, though they haven't had much TO brag about, but I don't think our franchise would ever brag about winning division titles and only 1 ws, Atlanta goes WAY overboard trying to shove thier crap down everybody's throats....much like the Dallas Cowpies. Not many proclaim to be "America's Team"....that all :-\\
BTW it's Hrabosky ;)
Hrabosky.. ok that's fine.,
Oh i don't dispute that the Braves organisation needs taking down a peg. But today, i think the Umpire had a lot to answer to.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/09/05 at 8:34 pm
Hrabosky.. ok that's fine.,
Oh i don't dispute that the Braves organisation needs taking down a peg. But today, i think the Umpire had a lot to answer to.
Hey, every year the Braves win another division title, brag about it and make that always early exit, they take themselves down a peg. I have NEVER thought much of them, just a bunch of flash and mouth, kinda like Ali...though he won a few titles :D As for the ump, I think they had a bad day but still think the game went to the deserving team. Now St. Louis can swat them aside, though I don't dislike Houston....just Clemens :P
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/09/05 at 8:48 pm
The Astros were a wild card team, but the Braves played like the lower level wild card team. You're Braves stink. The Astros deserved to win that classic 18 inning game, and they played much better, deserving to win the series.ÂÂ
And they did.  :)
Oh please. You won against the worst bullpen in the national leauge, and it took till the 18th inning.
Chris Reitsma, Joey "another grandslam" Devine, Dan Kolb, McCay McBride, et all need to get the hell out of Atlanta. How did our bullpen go from first to worst in two years.
Keep Kyle Farnsworth and Jim Brower and John Foster and get the above losers and the others I forgot OUT.
Either way, I'll have the last laugh. The Cardinals are going to crush the Astros.
14 straight!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Kenlos on 10/09/05 at 8:52 pm
Hey, every year the Braves win another division title, brag about it and make that always early exit, they take themselves down a peg. I have NEVER thought much of them, just a bunch of flash and mouth, kinda like Ali...though he won a few titles :D As for the ump, I think they had a bad day but still think the game went to the deserving team. Now St. Louis can swat them aside, though I don't dislike Houston....just Clemens :P
I admit bragging isn't cool, but at the same time knocking fans and their favorite teams is even lower. And no offense but thats what a couple of you have been guilty of. And I am sure if you thought about it you would agree. Talking crap about people and there teams would potentially get you put in hospital in some cities like New York or even in Philly. Bragging doesn't hurt anyone, its just annoying. Knocking people and their teams just isn't cool.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Kenlos on 10/09/05 at 8:55 pm
Oh please. You won against the worst bullpen in the national leauge, and it took till the 18th inning.
Chris Reitsma, Joey "another grandslam" Devine, Dan Kolb, McCay McBride, et all need to get the hell out of Atlanta. How did our bullpen go from first to worst in two years.
Keep Kyle Farnsworth and Jim Brower and John Foster and get the above losers and the others I forgot OUT.
Either way, I'll have the last laugh. The Cardinals are going to crush the Astros.
14 straight!
I disgree with some of that. I would keep Reitsma around because he struggled do to a nagging injury he played through, before the enjory he did pretty well. Also I would keep Devine around. Yeah he had a bad couple outings in this series but give me a break the kid was just in college four months ago. Take anyone from college straight to pros in a matter of months and I am willing to bet the results wont be that different no matter how good they are. Devine has potential give him a little time in the minors to mature and learn how to play at the big league level and then bring him back.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/09/05 at 8:57 pm
If that's true then all I can say is what comes around, goes around. Atlanta had thier special strike zone for YEARS ::)
He is not joking.  One ball almost hit Juilo Franco in the face and it was a strike.
The worst call though was that first baseball in the the eight inning.  Franco's foot was clearly on the bag.
But a 6-1 lead going into the eight.
Bases loaded with one out for the Braves in the 13th
The Braves deserved to lose that game, even with the betting on baseball umpires.
Winning 14 straight Division titles is not exactly easy as no other team in the history of any sport has won anywhere close to as many in a row as the Braves.  So what they only have 1 WS title in that time,
Exactly!  Winning a devision proves you're the best in that respective division for 162 games.  Winning a world series proves you were the hottest team for two weeks.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: RockandRollFan on 10/09/05 at 8:59 pm
Winning 14 straight Division titles is not exactly easy as no other team in the history of any sport has won anywhere close to as many in a row as the Braves. So what they only have 1 WS title in that time, today it is much harder to win a WS than it was 20 years ago with the playoffs having been expended and such. I can promise you that if any team in any sport won 14 straight division titles (even if they only won 1 championship) they would be bragging to. The season is 162 games long and that is a long time to keep winning (considering injuries and such) and to do that 14 years in a row for 162 games each year is amazing even if they only have the one title.
I admit bragging isn't cool, but at the same time knocking fans and their favorite teams is even lower. And no offense but thats what a couple of you have been guilty of. And I am sure if you thought about it you would agree. Talking crap about people and there teams would potentially get you put in hospital in some cities like New York or even in Philly. Bragging doesn't hurt anyone, its just annoying. Knocking people and their teams just isn't cool.
I'm NOT knocking GW or Jiminy...my comments were directed directly at the "guest" who called everyone some really horrible things. When my Denver Broncos went to 3 Super Bowls in 5 years in the early Elway years, I didn't hear any of our fans Bragging about how great that was. The goal was to WIN the Super Bowl. Also, Atlanta most likely wouldn't have won the 14 straight because the Montreal Expos were leading the division in 1994 when that darn strike came along....who knows ??? I'm not cutting down the fans, I'm just expressing my being annoyed by all thier "hype" can be put to rest for yet another year ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Kenlos on 10/09/05 at 9:14 pm
I'm NOT knocking GW or Jiminy...my comments were directed directly at the "guest" who called everyone some really horrible things. When my Denver Broncos went to 3 Super Bowls in 5 years in the early Elway years, I didn't hear any of our fans Bragging about how great that was. The goal was to WIN the Super Bowl. Also, Atlanta most likely wouldn't have won the 14 straight because the Montreal Expos were leading the division in 1994 when that darn strike came along....who knows ??? I'm not cutting down the fans, I'm just expressing my being annoyed by all thier "hype" can be put to rest for yet another year ;)
I wasn't necessarily referring to you, and I definitely wasn't saying you were going after GW or Jiminy. I mean you even mentioned above about not liking to knock other people and their teams. But there are people on here who are guilty of it. I understand venting flustrations and annoyances, shoot thats half the point of message boards, but I there have been some people who have gone a little overboard at times. And I don't even mean just towards the Braves either, the Braves just tend to be the main target.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/09/05 at 9:51 pm
Angels broke a scoreless tie in the top 6th against Shawn Chacon with 2 runs and the Yankes answered with 1 run in the bottom. Then things began to turn ugly in the 7th; I have no idea what's goin' on now.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/09/05 at 10:13 pm
Aww nuts...Yanks win, 3-2. >:( Now the series goes back to Anaheim for a decider tomorrow. I feel bad for the guys on both teams; they're not gonna get much rest unless it's on the airplane to L.A.; I would imagine they're all tired right now. It's just after 11PM on the East Coast, and I would imagine that their plane is scheduled to leave in a few hours. :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Banished Penguin on 10/10/05 at 12:16 pm
I wasn't necessarily referring to you, and I definitely wasn't saying you were going after GW or Jiminy. I mean you even mentioned above about not liking to knock other people and their teams. But there are people on here who are guilty of it. I understand venting flustrations and annoyances, shoot thats half the point of message boards, but I there have been some people who have gone a little overboard at times. And I don't even mean just towards the Braves either, the Braves just tend to be the main target.
I know what you mean....but it's all relative now as I have been banished for whatever reason ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/10/05 at 3:22 pm
I sure hope the Angels win tonight. If they don't, then I'll be rooting for the White Sox all the way.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/10/05 at 4:37 pm
I know what you mean....but it's all relative now as I have been banished for whatever reason ::)
RockandRollFan? How did you get banned?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/10/05 at 10:34 pm
It looks like the Yankees are about done, thank God.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Tam on 10/10/05 at 11:11 pm
^ that was enlightening!
Thank goodness the Spankies are out! Here's hoping maybe that the Astros can pull a horseshoe out their butts and defeat the Cards!
{yeah right!} ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 10/10/05 at 11:16 pm
God, You people are so blind and you don't even realize it. Just keep rooting for and kissing the butts of these Californians, I'm sure they love every minute of you Brown Nosers worshiping the ground they walk on
This is why I despise the Human Race. You're all Pathetic
WTF??
Erin :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 10/10/05 at 11:25 pm
God, You people are so blind and you don't even realize it. Just keep rooting for and kissing the butts of these Californians, I'm sure they love every minute of you Brown Nosers worshiping the ground they walk on
This is why I despise the Human Race. You're all Pathetic
Er......what? ???
You're so guest-worthy.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/10/05 at 11:35 pm
God, You people are so blind and you don't even realize it. Just keep rooting for and kissing the butts of these Californians, I'm sure they love every minute of you Brown Nosers worshiping the ground they walk on
This is why I despise the Human Race. You're all Pathetic
SIT DOWN SHUT UP!
SIT DOWN SHUT UP!
Hello I'm from New York and i'm what we refer to as an 'October Fan'.
Angels played good defensive baseball and defeated Money Inc.
Go Sox! Go Cards!
I wanna Chicago - St Louis world series, that way i have the opportunity to go to two games ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: whistledog on 10/10/05 at 11:40 pm
This is why I despise the Human Race. You're all Pathetic
There's no call for that. Please apologize
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: thenewwavechick on 10/10/05 at 11:46 pm
God, You people are so blind and you don't even realize it. Just keep rooting for and kissing the butts of these Californians, I'm sure they love every minute of you Brown Nosers worshiping the ground they walk on
This is why I despise the Human Race. You're all Pathetic
I hope you apoogize to ALL the Californians here who post here because this is one of the most offensive things I've read. And you're no part of the human race if you say something so rediculous as that. >:(
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/11/05 at 10:04 am
It looks like the Yankees are about done, thank God.
I was watching the game last night. I was SO HAPPY to see the Angels beat the begesus out of those Yankeez.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/11/05 at 1:46 pm
So the Angels fly to Chicago to begin the ALCS tonight; game starts at roughly 5:00 my time. I'd like to see the Angels win, since they're a California team, but I'm okay with the White Sox. (After all, they haven't won a pennant in 46 years and a World Series Title in 88 years.)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/11/05 at 3:26 pm
Ugh! Carpenter vs Pettitte
:o
That's gonna be a hell of a pitching battle.
Ya know, even if i wasn't a Cardinal fan i'd still want the Astro's to get the snot knocked out of em.
The wild card is a retarded scenario, over the year the astros proved they weren't as good as the Cardinals, yet still get in to the playoffs ??? explain that to me.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/11/05 at 3:31 pm
Ugh! Carpenter vs Pettitte
:o
That's gonna be a hell of a pitching battle.
Ya know, even if i wasn't a Cardinal fan i'd still want the Astro's to get the snot knocked out of em.
The wild card is a retarded scenario, over the year the astros proved they weren't as good as the Cardinals, yet still get in to the playoffs ??? explain that to me.
And explain why the San Diego Padres got into the playoffs ;) If the wild card did not exist, the Padres would have gotten in and the Astros would have stayed out despite being an obviously superior team.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/11/05 at 3:42 pm
And explain why the San Diego Padres got into the playoffs ;) If the wild card did not exist, the Padres would have gotten in and the Astros would have stayed out despite being an obviously superior team.
And then there'd only be three teams...which would make things difficult. That's why they pick the team with the best second-place record, so that they'll have a power of two to work with.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/11/05 at 4:59 pm
And explain why the San Diego Padres got into the playoffs ;) If the wild card did not exist, the Padres would have gotten in and the Astros would have stayed out despite being an obviously superior team.
Personally.. it's a travesty the Padres were allowed in, but that's beside the point, their division is so weak if you had pitched and i'd batted we would have won it.
My problem with the wild card is this.
The whole idea of the World Series is to show who the Best team in Baseball is. Any team can win a short series, any! Last year over the course of the season the Cardinals were the best team in baseball but during the playoffs, the Red Sox played better and won it. Did they deserve to win it based on their performance in the playoffs? Yes. Were they the best team that year? No.
Personally i am in favour of scrapping the whole 3 divisions bollocks, as i said earlier the NL West is ridiculously weak and the AL west isn't exactly strong. Have an Eastern & Western division on both Leagues. But when i say Western Divison i don't just mean the west coast, i mean pretty much up to Chicago. I won't get bogged down in details but because there are far more teams on the east coast obviously things have to be proportional.
Anyway then you have the two winners from each league and have a 4 team Playoff to decide the VERY best team.
The only reason there is a wild card is to add two extra teams so that there are more games on for the Playoffs. It's about M-O-N-E-Y not sport.
The Astros are a good team.. ok.. maybe not, the Astros have an AMAZING pitching staff and it shows, they had a better record than the winner of the NL West, but ya know, Tough shi* they're not in the NL West.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/12/05 at 2:41 am
Personally.. it's a travesty the Padres were allowed in, but that's beside the point, their division is so weak if you had pitched and i'd batted we would have won it.
I agree with that. The West was terrible this year for some reason.
Anyway then you have the two winners from each league and have a 4 team Playoff to decide the VERY best team.
The only reason there is a wild card is to add two extra teams so that there are more games on for the Playoffs. It's about M-O-N-E-Y not sport.
The biggest reason the wild card was implemented was because of 1993. That year, the NL had two divisions and Atlanta beat out SF for the division title, 104 victories to 103 or something like that. The winner of the other division did not have nearly as many wins. Therefore the wild card is not a money-only tool, it ensures that the teams with the best records will get into the playoffs.
The Astros are a good team.. ok.. maybe not, the Astros have an AMAZING pitching staff and it shows, they had a better record than the winner of the NL West, but ya know, Tough shi* they're not in the NL West.
The Astros also have a pretty good offense and used that to knock off the Braves.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/12/05 at 11:49 am
The Angels took game 1 of the ALCS last night with a 3-2 victory over the White Sox; Paul Byrd pitched well. 8) Despite having seen three different stadiums in the last three days alone, the Angels managed to pull another win out.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/12/05 at 11:55 am
The Angels took game 1 of the ALCS last night with a 3-2 victory over the White Sox; Paul Byrd pitched well. 8) Despite having seen three different stadiums in the last three days alone, the Angels managed to pull another win out.
I was kind of surprised about that myself. After having been in NY, then L.A. and now Chicago-I'm surprised that all of them haven't been asleep on the field.
Cat
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/12/05 at 12:02 pm
I was kind of surprised about that myself. After having been in NY, then L.A. and now Chicago-I'm surprised that all of them haven't been asleep on the field.
Cat
I know. They were initially supposed to play game 4 in N.Y. on Saturday, then travel back to Anaheim on Sunday for game 5, but Saturday was rained out, so they had to move the schedule. :-\\ They had to travel between the cities during the graveyard shift; for all I know, they probably slept on the plane...or in their hotel rooms during the day.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/12/05 at 12:11 pm
I agree with that. The West was terrible this year for some reason.
The biggest reason the wild card was implemented was because of 1993. That year, the NL had two divisions and Atlanta beat out SF for the division title, 104 victories to 103 or something like that. The winner of the other division did not have nearly as many wins. Therefore the wild card is not a money-only tool, it ensures that the teams with the best records will get into the playoffs.
The Astros also have a pretty good offense and used that to knock off the Braves.
I can see your point, the team with a better record 'should' get in, but the current system means they don't. It's unfair but lots of things are.
IMO, every team in the NL needs to play every other team in the NL an equal number of times, same with the AL.
None of this shorter series nonsense.
Let me break it down.
In English football (soccer) each team in the division plays every other team twice, three points are awarded for a win, one for a draw, none for a loss. There is NEVER any dispute as to who wins.
The Astros have a poor offense, Berkman can kill the ball but he can be inconsistent.
The pitching staff is the key but as Clemens showed. You can post a 1.8 ERA but if your team can't score runs you won't win.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/12/05 at 12:59 pm
Baseball is different, it's very division heavy. This means the schedule is skewed towards division rivalries.
The playoff system in baseball seems fine as it is. The playoffs are more for seeding, and as history shows, the team that gets hot at the right time will become the champion. Is this fair? No, but it does provide for monumental upsets and great sports memories.
If you hate short series, you'd hate the football and NCAA basketball playoffs even more, because they are single elimination. They put less emphasis on who is the better team overall, and more towards whichever team will execute well at the right moment. That is why we have great moments like Villanova over Georgetown or UConn over Duke, and why it is possible for crappy teams like the 1993-1994 Chargers to make it to the Super Bowl and get destroyed by the 49ers ;)
I never said that the system was fair, I'm just providing reasons for the way that it is.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/12/05 at 10:05 pm
How about the Cardinals' suicide squeeze play? That was really pretty for small ball fans :)
The White Sox won in major controversy. Pierzynski should have struck out legitimately, but even the TV replays showed that the ball maybe skimmed the dirt before definitely being caught by the catcher. The catcher thought it was the last out of the inning, threw the ball to the mound, and Pierzynski, thinking fast, goes to first anyway, and is safe because the ump thought the catcher caught it on a short hop. A pinch runner, a stolen base and a double later, the Sox win. Big time controversy.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/12/05 at 10:07 pm
The Astros have lost game one.  I hope those wildcard pretenders get swept so badly that it makes little kids in Houston cry.  (Obviously I don't mean that, but I still want the Astros to get beaten badly.)
Cardinals: 5
Astros: 3
The Astros also have a pretty good offense and used that to knock off the Braves.
Huh?  The Astros have a horrible offense.  They just broke out in that series.  And the White Sox just won.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/12/05 at 10:26 pm
Huh?  The Astros have a horrible offense.  They just broke out in that series.  And the White Sox just won.
Obviously the offense was good enough to make the playoffs and beat the Braves based on the current system ;)
Even the White Sox are confused about what the hell happened in that game. The Angels catcher was probably negligent anyway, because he assumed it was a strikeout and tossed away the ball, thus removing any opportunity of throwing Pierzynski out. Oh well.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/12/05 at 11:13 pm
Baseball is different, it's very division heavy. This means the schedule is skewed towards division rivalries.
The playoff system in baseball seems fine as it is. The playoffs are more for seeding, and as history shows, the team that gets hot at the right time will become the champion. Is this fair? No, but it does provide for monumental upsets and great sports memories.
If you hate short series, you'd hate the football and NCAA basketball playoffs even more, because they are single elimination. They put less emphasis on who is the better team overall, and more towards whichever team will execute well at the right moment. That is why we have great moments like Villanova over Georgetown or UConn over Duke, and why it is possible for crappy teams like the 1993-1994 Chargers to make it to the Super Bowl and get destroyed by the 49ers ;)
I never said that the system was fair, I'm just providing reasons for the way that it is.
Again, i understand the system and can see some benefits to it, if it was up to me though, there would be changes.
How about the Cardinals' suicide squeeze play? That was really pretty for small ball fans :)
They lay down a lot. If you enjoy real technical Baseball, watch more Cards games.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/12/05 at 11:15 pm
Again, i understand the system and can see some benefits to it, if it was up to me though, there would be changes.
You would need to make sure that the divisions were set up fair and that the two best teams, by record, in each league MUST make the playoffs.
They lay down a lot. If you enjoy real technical Baseball, watch more Cards games.
I like opposite-field slappers, hit-and-runs, and sacrifice plays. I think they are much more exciting than the home run ball. Although a timely home run a la Fisk in Game 6 is always exciting.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/12/05 at 11:21 pm
You would need to make sure that the divisions were set up fair and that the two best teams, by record, in each league MUST make the playoffs.
I like opposite-field slappers, hit-and-runs, and sacrifice plays. I think they are much more exciting than the home run ball. Although a timely home run a la Fisk in Game 6 is always exciting.
Yeah.. have an equal (if possible) number of teams in each division and have an equal number of games against every other team in the same League as you. Screw the AL - NL Mid season Games, save them for the Playoffs, keep it exciting.
Thus at the end of the year the two teams on top will have had to prove they were the very best.
I have no problem with guys hitting em outta the park. Hell Albert, Jim, Reggie and Larry do it all the time, however i find it more exciting when things get a bit closer.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/12/05 at 11:25 pm
Yeah.. have an equal (if possible) number of teams in each division and have an equal number of games against every other team in the same League as you. Screw the AL - NL Mid season Games, save them for the Playoffs, keep it exciting.
Thus at the end of the year the two teams on top will have had to prove they were the very best.
Why not merge the leagues and get rid of the designated hitter? Then you could incorporate the excitement of interleague play while doing it your way.
I don't think there are enough teams in baseball to create enough divisions to ensure that you get an even number of teams into the playoffs, AND ensure that the best teams by record get into the playoffs.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/12/05 at 11:33 pm
Why not merge the leagues and get rid of the designated hitter? Then you could incorporate the excitement of interleague play while doing it your way.
I don't think there are enough teams in baseball to create enough divisions to ensure that you get an even number of teams into the playoffs, AND ensure that the best teams by record get into the playoffs.
To merge the leagues would be an interesting concept, but it'll never happen. Too many differences.
I'd like to see an expansion to be honest.
I think there are enough teams (although as i say i'd like to see more) it would just be a case of making sure there was an even number of games against every other team.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/12/05 at 11:37 pm
To merge the leagues would be an interesting concept, but it'll never happen. Too many differences.
I'd like to see an expansion to be honest.
I think there are enough teams (although as i say i'd like to see more) it would just be a case of making sure there was an even number of games against every other team.
In that case, you should probably forget about divisions and just make it so that the top four teams in each league make the playoffs and are seeded based on record. That does sound fair but would destroy a lot of traditional rivalries because the schedule is now diluted.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/12/05 at 11:39 pm
In that case, you should probably forget about divisions and just make it so that the top four teams in each league make the playoffs and are seeded based on record. That does sound fair but would destroy a lot of traditional rivalries because the schedule is now diluted.
It's a case of finding that balance between Fairness and Traditional 'A Games'.
If there were enough teams there could be a relegation promotion system which would shake things up!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/12/05 at 11:41 pm
If there were enough teams there could be a relegation promotion system which would shake things up!
Explain how!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/13/05 at 3:13 am
Who'll be where in 2006
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
10/11/05
The Braves face a few big questions regarding their potential free agents and arbitration-eligible players. Here's an early forecast from Braves beat writer David O'Brien:
FREE AGENTS
RHP-Kyle Farnsworth, Lacks the résumé for Braves to pay what he'll command
1B-Julio Franco, Elbow hindered him second half, but he'll return in 1B platoon
SS-Rafael Furcal, Braves need, want him, but price is about to soar on open market
OF-Todd Hollandsworth, Looked old in brief stint with Braves; won't be back
OF-Brian Jordan, Sentimental favorite and leader, but too creaky for roster spot
C-Eddie Perez, Chronic shoulder problem signals end of his career
RHP-John Thomson*,Good pitcher, but Braves have younger, cheaper options
ARBITRATION-ELIGIBLES
RHP-Jim Brower, Solid work in playoffs doesn't overshadow poor season; he's gone
C-Johnny Estrada, McCann's rise could lead Braves to listen to Estrada trade offers
2B-Marcus Giles, Could double $2.4 million salary, but seems a lock to return
RHP-Dan Kolb, A resounding failure in his first  and only  season with Braves
LHP-Horacio Ramirez, Shaky season but still highly regarded; likely No. 4 or 5 starter
RHP-Chris Reitsma, Too expensive to keep after making $1.65 million in uneven '05
RHP-Jorge Sosa, Biggest surprise of '05, likely third or fourth starter in '06
BEST OF THE ROOKIES
C-Brian McCann, Very impressive as rookie, he'll play plenty in '06
RF-Jeff Francoeur, New face of the franchise will be lineup fixture for years
LF-Ryan Langerhans, Solid all-around player who could be lineup regular in '06
OF Kelly Johnson, Likely fourth OF in 2006; would draw trade interest if made available
RHP-Joey Devine, Big league numbers ugly, but reliever has undeniable talent
RHP-Kyle Davies, He'll compete for a rotation spot in spring training
INF-Pete Orr, Scrappy utility man hit .300 in full season with Braves
RHP-Blaine Boyer, If elbow is OK, he'll be in the opening day bullpen
RHP-Anthony Lerew, Braves like him as starter or reliever; he'll compete for spot
INF-Wilson Betemit, Hit .305 and played steady defense when Chipper was hurt
LHP-Macay McBride, Baby-faced Georgian should be in opening day bullpen
3B-Andy Marte, If there's no spot for him, could be attractive trade piece
LHP-Chuck James, Another undersized lefty who could compete for a spot
*$4.75 million team option on Thomson's contract for 2006 with $500,000 buyout
Link
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: karen on 10/13/05 at 3:49 am
Explain how!
I'm guessing that Andy is thinking along the lines of the way football (soccer) works here in the UK. At all levels there are divisions with several teams playing. At the end of the season two or three teams that finish bottom of Division 1 will be relegated into Division 2 and the top two or three teams of Division 2 will be promoted into Division 1 for the next season. To add interest in the national league (where Manchester United, Liverpool etc play) they have play offs where the third and fourth from the top of Division 2 play the third and fourth from the bottom of Division 1. I'm not sure that this happens in the local regional leagues.
(Andy and other Brits I know that the top division is now not Division 1 but the Premier League or something. I just though that would confuse the issue)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/13/05 at 1:44 pm
I'm guessing that Andy is thinking along the lines of the way football (soccer) works here in the UK. At all levels there are divisions with several teams playing. At the end of the season two or three teams that finish bottom of Division 1 will be relegated into Division 2 and the top two or three teams of Division 2 will be promoted into Division 1 for the next season. To add interest in the national league (where Manchester United, Liverpool etc play) they have play offs where the third and fourth from the top of Division 2 play the third and fourth from the bottom of Division 1. I'm not sure that this happens in the local regional leagues.
(Andy and other Brits I know that the top division is now not Division 1 but the Premier League or something. I just though that would confuse the issue)
Essentially, except you haven't quite grasped the playoff idea, your talking about how they do it in Italy ;)
Essentially you would have 10 teams in the NL Division One and 10 teams in the NL Division 2.
The top 2 teams from the NL Division one would go in to the post season.
The Bottom team or bottom two teams would be relegated to Division 2.
The top team from Division 2 would be promoted and either the second placed team would be promoted.. or.. to increase revenue, have a 7 game series between 2nd and 3rd place and the winner of that goes up.
Same in the AL.
It's totally different and i don't know if i'd like to see it, but it would shake things up.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Roy O on 10/13/05 at 10:55 pm
LOL, you're mighty Cardinals just got punked, 4-1. It would have been a shut out game had Pujols not hit that homer. Roy Oswalt owns you guys.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/13/05 at 11:21 pm
The way you explain it, it sounds like the bulk of the teams in the league, especially in your Division 2, will have decreased incentive for fans to go to games since they know that their team doesn't have a shot at the postseason this year. This would be bad for baseball.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/13/05 at 11:23 pm
So now both of the LCSes are tied at 1 game apiece. Each team has won exactly one game thus far.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/13/05 at 11:27 pm
Could have been 2-0 Cards if Jim Edmonds had produced :(
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/14/05 at 11:24 am
There was an article in my local newspaper this morning that said that Houston was ahead in the series 2-0. :o I guess the person who wrote the article (from the AP) hasn't been following the series. I was going to post a link about it but on the paper's website, it wasn't there. They must have pulled it knowing it was wrong.
It was a shame of what happened to Reggie Sanders last night. I hope he is ok. I hate to see any player get hurt (except if it is Roger Clements or John Rocker).
Cat
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/14/05 at 2:57 pm
The way you explain it, it sounds like the bulk of the teams in the league, especially in your Division 2, will have decreased incentive for fans to go to games since they know that their team doesn't have a shot at the postseason this year. This would be bad for baseball.
As i said, i wouldn't want it personally, but it would be an interesting experiment.
There was an article in my local newspaper this morning that said that Houston was ahead in the series 2-0. :o I guess the person who wrote the article (from the AP) hasn't been following the series. I was going to post a link about it but on the paper's website, it wasn't there. They must have pulled it knowing it was wrong.
It was a shame of what happened to Reggie Sanders last night. I hope he is ok. I hate to see any player get hurt (except if it is Roger Clements or John Rocker).
I think Reggie is alright. Cards were listless last night :P
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/14/05 at 9:44 pm
Top of the 8th in Anaheim...still 5-2 Sox. :-\\ Kelvim Escobar is pitching for the Halos.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/14/05 at 10:27 pm
SOX WIN SOX WIN!
Outstanding.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/14/05 at 10:28 pm
Final score: White Sox 5, Angels 2. ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/14/05 at 10:29 pm
Final score: White Sox 5, Angels 2. ::)
;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/14/05 at 10:32 pm
;D
If the White Sox end up winning the series, that's okay with me. However, I am rootin for the Angels because they're a local team. As for the NLCS, I'm hoping that the Cardinals win that one. ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/14/05 at 10:35 pm
If the White Sox end up winning the series, that's okay with me. However, I am rootin for the Angels because they're a local team. As for the NLCS, I'm hoping that the Cardinals win that one. ;)
Nice job mate, ya know who the good guys are.
I have a soft spot for the White Sox.
A) They're not the Cubs
B) They're a proper working class side
C) They have a weel built side
D) They're not the Cubs
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/14/05 at 10:37 pm
Like I said, the White Sox are okay with me. If they should make it to the World Series, it'll be their first WS appearance in 46 years (they lost to the Dodgers that time).
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/14/05 at 11:04 pm
Plus, if the White Sox do somehow manage to win, it would stick it to the Cubs and their fans
Then guess who would be the only team left not to win a Championship in like 80+ Years?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/14/05 at 11:07 pm
Plus, if the White Sox do somehow manage to win, it would stick it to the Cubs and their fans
Then guess who would be the only team left not to win a Championship in like 80+ Years?
hehehehe, correctamundo.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/15/05 at 5:51 am
You guys want a Nice little example of just how Arrogant the Angels fans are? Check this out
http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/thread?forumID=16&threadID=2526731&lastPostID=14831661
God, I swear you Californians just shouldent even exist. Cocky Jerks, you sit here and insult anyone who isn't from California by calling them Fat and Un-Pretty
You Californians think your all Beautiful and Cool don't you? Why does anyone from outside of California even like Californians? It truely Boggles my freaking mind
Take a hint people, californians are A-Holes who don't like us regular people from the Mid-West or East Coast simply because we don't live the same lifestyle as them, and apparently we aren't as pretty as them
I guess Californians are better people than everyone else. Sheesh, no wonder other countires Hate America, because of you Jerks who ruin the whole entire country for us
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/15/05 at 10:48 am
ummmm.....that wouldn't be MY team ;)
Andy, ever realize that you look quite similar to Lackey from the Angels? I'll have to see if I can find a picture.....
GODDAMIT YOU SOD!!!!
That came up over dinner last night.
Everybody says that!!! Everybody, they taunt me!! He's ugly!!
DAMMITTTT!!! Shurrup :(
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/15/05 at 3:08 pm
Sorry :(
;D
It's alright. Im guess it's true when three different sets of people commet.
He's ugly though.. isn't he :(
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/15/05 at 6:24 pm
The meltdown of the Cardinals continues. Astros lead the series 2-1.
For the first time in my life, I root for the Cardinals, and now for the first time this season, they suck.
Go Cardinals!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/15/05 at 7:30 pm
The meltdown of the Cardinals continues. Astros lead the series 2-1.
For the first time in my life, I root for the Cardinals, and now for the first time this season, they suck.
Go Cardinals!
Cheers mate.
The bats have been silenced :P
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 10/15/05 at 10:19 pm
:)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 10/15/05 at 10:27 pm
On nearly every message board I go to, there is always Astros hate out there. I don't know why. No one is rooting for the Astros outside of Texas. It's not like the Astros are loaded up with a bunch of d*cks and dirty players, or like they have a history as being an annoying team to hate like the Yankees. Strangely enough, I don't hate the St. Louis Cardinals, even though this is the second year in a row we play them in the NLCS and the fact that we are division rivals. I still don't hate them, I'm more indifferent to the Cardinals.ÂÂ
The Atlanta Braves would be the only team that comes close to registering some hate in me, and that's because they always win so much, and there has been a long history of the Astros meeting the Braves in the playoffs every year. ÂÂ
I need to stand up for the Astros, and support the guys. I gotta huge kick out of seeing Nolan Ryan throw the opening pitch of Game 3 of the NLCS.
8)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/15/05 at 10:44 pm
I wouldn't be happy just yet. It ain't over by a long shot.
Let's go Cardinals.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/15/05 at 10:51 pm
On nearly every message board I go to, there is always Astros hate out there. I don't know why. No one is rooting for the Astros outside of Texas. It's not like the Astros are loaded up with a bunch of d*cks and dirty players, or like they have a history as being an annoying team to hate like the Yankees. Strangely enough, I don't hate the St. Louis Cardinals, even though this is the second year in a row we play them in the NLCS and the fact that we are division rivals. I still don't hate them, I'm more indifferent to the Cardinals.
The Atlanta Braves would be the only team that comes close to registering some hate in me, and that's because they always win so much, and there has been a long history of the Astros meeting the Braves in the playoffs every year.
I need to stand up for the Astros, and support the guys. I gotta huge kick out of seeing Nolan Ryan throw the opening pitch of Game 3 of the NLCS.
... and i don't hate the Astros.. i still hope Albert unloads on you guys though ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/16/05 at 12:56 am
I don't hate the Astros either, but I'd like to see the Cardinals win the series just because. No special reason.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/16/05 at 5:09 am
Here are some more Middle School Hijinx by those Classy Angels Fans
http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/thread?forumID=16&threadID=2533101&lastPostID=14865681
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/16/05 at 12:29 pm
I'd like to see a Cardinals-White Sox World Series.....the people here in IL wouldn't KNOW what to do ;D
;D
It's weird going through middle Illinois. Springfield is split red and blue ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/16/05 at 3:31 pm
I'd like to see a Cardinals-White Sox World Series.....the people here in IL wouldn't KNOW what to do ;D
In that event, I'd probably cheer for the White Sox (sorry, Cardinal fans :-[) because they last won a WS 88 years ago, so they're overdue for one.
If the Angels do manage to pull out a win (which seems rather unlikely now), I'd cheer for them whether they play the Astros OR the Cards.
If it's Astros-White Sox, then I'd go for the White Sox.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/16/05 at 6:41 pm
the people here in IL wouldn't KNOW what to do ;D
Um......root for the White Sox? An Illinois team vs. a Missouri team.
It doesn't matter, the Cardinals are about to fall down in the series 3-1. The Cardinals' meltdown continues. It's going to be Astros-White Sox, just like Roger Clemens' mother said.
As much as I hate rooting for an American leauge team because of their wussy DH rule, if it's White Sox-Astros, I'm rooting for the White Sox. I'll root for the Cardinals over anyone else though.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 10/16/05 at 8:01 pm
:)
I hesitate to gloat until the NLCS is officially over. But I gotta love my boys chances with Andy Petitte on the mound Monday.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 10/16/05 at 8:08 pm
You gotta wonder what Cardinals skipper Tony La Russa and Jim Edmonds were thinking to drop so many f-bombs at the umps though. They had every oppurtunity to win that game against the Astros, but they just melted down.
If I was a Cardinal fan, I would be really ticked off with Jim Edmonds getting himself thrown out like that, his team was only down one run in the 8th inning....but alas I'm not fan of those red birds, and I'm giddy that the Astros won again.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/16/05 at 8:19 pm
You gotta wonder what Cardinals skipper Tony La Russa and Jim Edmonds were thinking to drop so many f-bombs at the umps though. They had every oppurtunity to win that game against the Astros, but they just melted down.
If I was a Cardinal fan, I would be really ticked off with Jim Edmonds getting himself thrown out like that, his team was only down one run in the 8th inning....but alas I'm not fan of those red birds, and I'm giddy that the Astros won again.
I've said it before and i'll say it again, Jimmy ain't too smart.
Oh well, Go Sox ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/16/05 at 8:39 pm
No way in hell the Astros are going to win the world series.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 10/16/05 at 10:10 pm
Never,....say,....never.
No way in hell, but they'd win every way on Earth.  ;)
I want the 'Stros to wrap up Game 5 before they start thinking World Series just yet. Though it's so close you can almost taste it. If the Cards win Monday, they would be right back in this series, going back to St. Louis and it would be the same damn situation of last year, having Game 6 and 7 in St. Louis. So Monday is a must win for the Astros.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/16/05 at 10:47 pm
THANK YOU LORD!!!!!!!!!!
The Angels are GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Tanya1976 on 10/16/05 at 10:49 pm
Yay, Sox!!!!!!!! I'm probably the long person in CA saying that. I'm not a Cali native, so I don't care!!!! Yay, Sox!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/16/05 at 10:50 pm
THE WHITE SOX WIN THE PENNANT!
THE WHITE SOX WIN THE PENNANT!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/16/05 at 11:13 pm
SHEESH!!! You should check out what the tickets are going for on ebay.....in 1 minute, one set jumped from $1.04 to $760....and those are the CHEAPEST I saw :o
www.stubhub.com
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/16/05 at 11:16 pm
and i quote...
Rather see a White Sox series and i'd bet money that we will.
I'm right there with you....hell, I'll even buy you a ticket ;)
www.stubhub.com ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/17/05 at 9:09 am
Cards haven't made it there yet, sweets ;)
Cheat!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/17/05 at 12:41 pm
HUH ??? What did I cheat at?
I was only kiddin like
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/17/05 at 12:56 pm
AMEN!!!!!
I am sort of bummed about the Angels not surviving the ALCS :-[, but by the same token it's okay with me that the White Sox have won the pennant and are going to the WS. After all, they haven't been in a WS since 1959, so they are overdue for one. I'll be cheering for them next weekend. 8)
The only California team that I really don't care for is the Giants; I would only cheer for them when they play the Yankees.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/17/05 at 2:32 pm
I am sort of bummed about the Angels not surviving the ALCS :-I would only cheer for them when they play the Yankees.
Gotta love the Jealousy ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 10/17/05 at 3:59 pm
I'm for the White Sox because Ozzie Guillen supports Venezualan President Hugo Chavez. I hope the Astros don't make it 'coz that team is chock full 'o rednecks.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/17/05 at 4:09 pm
I will root for the White Sox regardless of who wins the NL pennant. But I am hoping that the Cardinals can win tonight to stay alive. Otherwise, the Astros will be playing in their first World Series ever, and will become the seventh wildcard team to reach the WS.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/17/05 at 4:23 pm
I will root for the White Sox regardless of who wins the NL pennant. But I am hoping that the Cardinals can win tonight to stay alive. Otherwise, the Astros will be playing in their first World Series ever, and will become the seventh wildcard team to reach the WS.
Which makes a mockery of the system.
I'm still firmly against the wild card.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/17/05 at 4:33 pm
I'm for the White Sox because Ozzie Guillen supports Venezualan President Hugo Chavez. I hope the Astros don't make it 'coz that team is chock full 'o rednecks.
Oh, that's Healthy, hate on an entire culture of people ::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 10/17/05 at 5:13 pm
Oh, that's Healthy, hate on an entire culture of people ::)
Well...I like socialists and Venezuelans. I don't care for rednecks, but I tell you, they didn't care for me first!
::)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/17/05 at 10:24 pm
Wow.
If I was a Cardinals fan, I'd probably be investing some money in a hat, sunglasses and a fake beard right now.
Astros are a regional team, but they did beat the Braves (with the umpire's help in game 4.) I fully believe that the White Sox are the better team and will kill them in the world series.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/17/05 at 10:34 pm
Wow.
If I was a Cardinals fan, I'd probably be investing some money in a hat, sunglasses and a fake beard right now.
Astros are a regional team, but they did beat the Braves (with the umpire's help in game 4.) I fully believe that the White Sox are the better team and will kill them in the world series.
...
who said that, i see no Cardinals fans here.. what's that? :P
Ladies and Gentlemen, time to tell Bud Selig what i think of him.
Dear Bud,
You fudgeing moron. I'm so happy a wild card team has made the world series yet again. It's great that we now reward mediocrity in Baseball. I'm glad that we now reward not only the teams that play the best over 162 games but also the teams that get hot towards the end of the year.
Bud, i'm so happy that your fudgein TV cork smokers get a few extra prime time games every year at the expense of well built teams. Every tom, dick and Harry knows that anybody can win a short series. The idea of playing 162 games is to find out who the best teams are. fudge it, let's just play 2 and be done with it. Yankees @ Fenway and Red Sox @ Yankee stadium. But hey, let's repeat that 150 times a year. That's what you want isn't it Bud you old bastard, you fudgein retarded dick!
Let's reward a loser. A loser, they lost, over the season (ya know, those games that are supposed to sort the men from the boys) they proved THEY WERE NOT AS GOOD! Sure, in August and September, they were on fire. August.. and... September. It's not just a 2 month season Bud.
With regards, A.Rock.
P.S If a fudgein Englishman can see the faults with what you've done to our beautiful game then think what everyone else thinks. Cork Smoker! Go suck some New York Bat!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/17/05 at 10:46 pm
Holy sh**! Three run homer by Albert in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and two strikes gives the Cardinals a one run lead. I don't believe that!
I take back what I said. Go Cardinals!
Edited: The three run homer run off that overrated closer Lidge wins it for the Cardinals. Final score is 5-4 St. Louis.
Now back to St. Louis!!!!!!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/17/05 at 10:51 pm
Holy sh**! Three run homer by Albert in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and two strikes gives the Cardinals a one run lead. I don't believe that!
I take back what I said. Go Cardinals!
Edited: The three run homer run off that overrated closer Lidge wins it for the Cardinals. Final score is 5-4 St. Louis.
No back to St. Louis!
OH.. MY..GOD!! HOLY sheesh!!!
THAT WAS HUGE! He hit it out of the damn park!
I stand by what i said about Bud Selig but Damn!
That's it! The commentators said it right, they just refuse to die!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/18/05 at 1:53 am
If a wild card team can take the best team in the NL to the brink, then they deserve to be there. Even if it is the Astros :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 10/18/05 at 6:27 am
This is exactly why I held off celebrating until the NLCS was officially over. Check my previous posts, I said it.ÂÂ
Astros fans are used to this kind of crap happening. But even as a fan who is used to this kind of BS happening, this is still just unbelievable. 1 out from the World Series, and 2 strikes away, and then this...How can the Red Sox, Cubs, or White Sox dare to think they are cursed? At least they have all been to a World Series, and actually won one at some point in their franchise history. And at least those teams are more loved nationally then the Astros. It's always like "ahhh, the Cubs/Red Sox/White Sox, how cute, they're lovebale losers". With the Astros, nationally it's always like, "who cares about those guys".
This is the worst loss I've ever had with any team in any sport, on ANY level. Hindsight is 20/20 and one might wonder why Albert Pujols wasn't walked in that situation, but whatever. If the Astros lose Game 6, then I think the series is basically over, because I can't see them winning Game 7 in St. Louis. What really scares me is that when the Cardinals won that game, they just treated it like a day at the office, they barely celebrated or anything. It didn't even seem to phase them that they just came back from death.
:P
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/18/05 at 9:41 am
If a wild card team can take the best team in the NL to the brink, then they deserve to be there. Even if it is the Astros :D
Any team can take any team to the brink in Baseball, that's what is great about the game. That's also why we play 162 games in the season.
The wild card rewards a team that is currently hot. At the end of the season there are almost always 2-3 teams fighting for the wildcard. Whoever is hot and has the best schedule will win it. Fact!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/18/05 at 10:14 am
Keep your fingers crossed for me....I'm going to try and get tickets at noon for game 2 :)
Lucky sod!
Here you had to enter your name in to the draw.
8 of us did and none of us got drawn :P
I might still be able to score Tickets but it will be tough.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/18/05 at 11:43 am
Any team can take any team to the brink in Baseball, that's what is great about the game. That's also why we play 162 games in the season.
The wild card rewards a team that is currently hot. At the end of the season there are almost always 2-3 teams fighting for the wildcard. Whoever is hot and has the best schedule will win it. Fact!
Maybe they should shorten the season then to make the "hotness" factor moot ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/18/05 at 11:44 am
Maybe they should shorten the season then to make the "hotness" factor moot ;)
;D If it could be done, Bud Selig would do it. Anything to reward Mediocrity.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/18/05 at 11:53 am
Which makes a mockery of the system.
I'm still firmly against the wild card.
So should we have four divisions in each league? ??? I don't know how that would work out. ::)
I have no problem with the WC spot; after all, with only three division winners in a league, not all of them would get to compete in the play offs, which wouldn't be fair.
By the way, I did see the game last night; I'm glad that Albert Pujols managed to keep the series alive. 8) Now the Cardinals have to win game six to force a decider.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/18/05 at 11:54 am
I don't believe, in the past few years, the Giants, Angels, Marlins, Red Sox, or Astros were "mediocre".
The playoffs in all of the professional sports are not meant to reward only the so-called "best" teams.  They are set up to reward the best teams by seeding them higher in the round robin, but anyone who makes the playoffs because of their record will have a chance, however slim, to win the championship.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/18/05 at 11:58 am
4 minutes and counting....
until what??
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/18/05 at 12:03 pm
I don't believe, in the past few years, the Giants, Angels, Marlins, Red Sox, or Astros were "mediocre".
The playoffs in all of the professional sports are not meant to reward only the so-called "best" teams. They are set up to reward the best teams by seeding them higher in the round robin, but anyone who makes the playoffs because of their record will have a chance, however slim, to win the championship.
Again, the point i'm making is this.
The wild card does not reward the team that plays best over the whole year yet is unlucky.
It rewards a mediocre to decent team who happen to get hot at the end of the year.
In July the Astros were something like 10 games under .500 In August and September they could argue a case for being the best team in Baseball. They got hot. That's it, they didn't play the best through the season.
4 minutes and counting....
Get that phone ready ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/18/05 at 12:06 pm
And as many pundits have said, it doesn't matter what happens during the season, it matters only what happens in the postseason. If the Cardinals, for example, can't come back against the Astros, then they do not deserve to win anyway.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/18/05 at 12:10 pm
And as many pundits have said, it doesn't matter what happens during the season, it matters only what happens in the postseason. If the Cardinals, for example, can't come back against the Astros, then they do not deserve to win anyway.
The don't really deserve to win, the Astros pitching staff have silenced their bats.
Of course what happens in the post season is what's important. But as i've said so many times before, only the division winners should have a chance. The wild card is a team that got hot, not.. a division winner.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/18/05 at 12:11 pm
The don't really deserve to win, the Astros pitching staff have silenced their bats.
Of course what happens in the post season is what's important. But as i've said so many times before, only the division winners should have a chance. The wild card is a team that got hot, not.. a division winner.
But then, like I said, to have a playoff between three division winners is complicated; numbers that aren't powers of two are hard to work with. :-\\
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/18/05 at 12:15 pm
Having a system with just division winners doesn't work, as I have previously shown.  Plus baseball will lose excitement and revenue by reducing the number of teams allowed in the postseason.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/18/05 at 12:16 pm
Having a system with just division winners doesn't work, as I have previously shown. Plus baseball will lose excitement and revenue by reducing the number of teams allowed in the postseason.
I am just a pureist. I know it would lose all the October Fans and the sport would suffer. The wild card is going to be here for a long long time, i just have to get over my objection to it. But can you at least see where i'm coming from on this one?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/18/05 at 12:17 pm
But then, like I said, to have a playoff between three division winners is complicated; numbers that aren't powers of two are hard to work with. :-\\
It's not just that...it's the fact that if you only went with division winners, you do not guarantee that the teams with the two best records in the league get into the playoffs.  Giants were kept out by the virtue of the Braves winning in 1993, and if the wild card hadn't been instituted, the 1997 Marlins would not have made the playoffs despite having the second best record in the NL.  Is that really fair?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/18/05 at 12:19 pm
It's not just that...it's the fact that if you only went with division winners, you do not guarantee that the teams with the two best records in the league get into the playoffs. Giants were kept out by the virtue of the Braves winning in 1993, and if the wild card hadn't been instituted, the 1997 Marlins would not have made the playoffs despite having the second best record in the NL. Is that really fair?
Don't forget....in 1993 the Braves were part of the NL West division, which is why they edged the Jints for the playoffs. We only had two divisions (West and East) up to that point.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/18/05 at 12:21 pm
I am just a pureist. I know it would lose all the October Fans and the sport would suffer. The wild card is going to be here for a long long time, i just have to get over my objection to it. But can you at least see where i'm coming from on this one?
Then let's try something that is already in the system: the one-game playoff if two teams are tied at the top of the division.  Let's say the Cardinals and the Astros were tied at the top of the division at the end of the season and the Astros won, despite losing the season series 11-5.  Wild card = both teams get in.  No wild card = Cardinals don't get in, despite having a better head-to-head record, and arguably the better team would have to wait until next year.  Especially in a "playoff series" that is even shorter than the division round.  What do you say to that?  ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/18/05 at 12:21 pm
Don't forget....in 1993 the Braves were part of the NL West division, which is why they edged the Jints for the playoffs. We only had two divisions (West and East) up to that point.
That's why they created the wild card system.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/18/05 at 12:25 pm
That's why they created the wild card system.
True. They made three divisions (West, Central, East) prior to starting the 1994 season. Had there been no strike that year, the wildcard spot would have been used for the first time. (And the Braves probably would have found a way to knock off the Expos to win the East division. ::))
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/18/05 at 12:26 pm
Then let's try something that is already in the system: the one-game playoff if two teams are tied at the top of the division. Let's say the Cardinals and the Astros were tied at the top of the division at the end of the season and the Astros won, despite losing the season series 11-5. Wild card = both teams get in. No wild card = Cardinals don't get in, despite having a better head-to-head record, and arguably the better team would have to wait until next year. Especially in a "playoff series" that is even shorter than the division round. What do you say to that? ;)
It's not the same thing. I'm not too keen on the playoff for a tie either. I think the teams ought to be decided on their record against each other. But it's still not the same thing, if you have the two teams tied then both of them obviously have at least semi-decent records. One of them should go through.
I understand the analogy and appreciate that it is a conundrum but it's a different scenario.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/18/05 at 1:31 pm
I HATE MY CABLE COMPANY >:( >:( >:( I had 4 tickets and the f'ing cable crashed when I was putting in my credit card info >:( >:( >:( >:(
YOUR KIDDING ME!
Goddamit!
I'd demand some sort of Monetary compensation.
Can you prove you had them?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/18/05 at 1:35 pm
No, they don't give you a confirmation until you enter the payment info :( They weren't great seats, but they WERE seats and they didn't cost an arm and a leg (they were bleacher seats so it was $560 for all 4.....I can't even find a SINGLE seat for $560 in the nosebleed section now :()
:(
www.stubhub.com
It's your only chance, trust me. That's where i got my NLCS tickets from.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/18/05 at 1:44 pm
Oh, I can find tickets all over the place, but they're around $1000 each.....I don't love the Sox quite THAT much ;)
United Way are doing a thing i have entered.
Might be able to get tickets for about $250.
:)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/18/05 at 3:29 pm
In Chicago???
I found some online for $770 (4 available) so if I bought them and sold the extra 2 for about $2600, that's what I'd end up paying for them ;D ;D ;D
Hehehe
No, here in St Louis, if they make the Series then it's on.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/18/05 at 5:57 pm
Get a room, you crazy Lovebirds :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: karen on 10/19/05 at 5:46 am
Having a system with just division winners doesn't work, as I have previously shown.  Plus baseball will lose excitement and revenue by reducing the number of teams allowed in the postseason.
Are you saying that fans won't go and watch their team if they have nothing to play for? Then they are not really fans are they?
Having regional divisions and having a system of promotion/demotion keeps the excitement up at the end of the season. You can then have a separate knock cup or something if you need 'excitement' in the post season. If they are still playing why is it called post season? sounds a bit of an oxymoron to me.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/19/05 at 12:30 pm
^ That is what I am saying, because Americans are more bandwagonish and fickle than most. Kansas City and Tampa Bay, among other MLB teams, regularly suffer in attendance. Even storied franchises like Philadelphia (despite winning only one World Series in like 800 years :P ) are suffering as well, and most of this is because the team does not perform.ÂÂ
A better example would be the Florida Marlins. When the owner "bought" the World Series in 1997, the attendance was off the charts in Pro Player Stadium, but the following year after the fire sale of all the team's talent, the attendance dropped drastically because the team went from good to suck almost overnight. This is the epitome of bandwagonism.
By expanding the playoffs to allow for the wild card, the league has taken advantage of the bandwagon effect to boost attendance in cities that otherwise would have no interest.
In many American sports there is an exhibition period called the "preseason" for general managers to figure out which players will fit the team's system best, the "regular season" in which teams battle for position in the playoffs, and the "postseason" which ultimately decides the champion for the year.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: PaperGirl on 10/19/05 at 10:54 pm
HOLY TOLEDO! World Series here we come!
Bonus points to anyone who can tell the the meaning of the first part of what I said....
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 10/19/05 at 11:22 pm
FINALLY!!!!!
;D
ASTROS WIN THE PENNANT!!!!!
ASTROS IN THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!
Now, I can gloat over all the OTHER National League losers. No one can question the Astros now, going into St. Louis and defeating the Cardinals in Bush Stadium after that heartbreaking loss in Game 5. No one can claim the Astros are mere poseurs. Coming back after that horrible defeat, is the stuff of....champions.
Right now, I'm not even thinking about winning or losing the World Series, I'm just so f-ing happy we are FINALLY there.
:D
:)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/19/05 at 11:24 pm
GO SOX!
Hey, congrats to the Astros.. they outplayed the Cardinals through the series.
Hey Bud Selig.. COME TO ST LOUIS YOU CORK SMOKING ASS FUKER!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: PaperGirl on 10/19/05 at 11:25 pm
FINALLY!!!!!
;D
ASTROS WIN THE PENNANT!!!!!
ASTROS IN THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!
Now, I can gloat over all the OTHER National League losers. No one can question the Astros now, going into St. Louis and defeating the Cardinals in Bush Stadium after that heartbreaking loss in Game 5. No one can claim the Astros are mere poseurs. Coming back after that horrible defeat, is the stuff of....champions.
Right now, I'm not even thinking about winning or losing the World Series, I'm just so f-ing happy we are FINALLY there.
:D
:)  ÂÂ
A FRIGGING MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/19/05 at 11:56 pm
FINALLY!!!!!
;D
ASTROS WIN THE PENNANT!!!!!
ASTROS IN THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!
ÂÂ
All I can say is that I'm happy for the Astros (even though I wasn't cheering for them in the LCS). 8) :-\\ Now there are only five teams that have never reached the WS (Rangers, Nationals (who started out as the Expos), Mariners, Rockies, and Devilrays...hopefully one of them will make it someday). I'll be cheering for the White Sox this year, though.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/20/05 at 1:19 am
I think it will be a very comparable matchup pitching-wise, but I don't know how the respective offenses will respond. I guess the Cardinals didn't have the will to win this year, but the Astros most certainly did, and did it with oomph.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/20/05 at 2:26 am
Well, I'm not exactly "Happy" for the Astros (Afterall, they beat my Braves, and their fans werent exactly that classy during this year and last years series')
If i'm happy for anyone, I guess it's Jeff Bagwell, but that's it
Oh well, Go Sox! 8)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: PaperGirl on 10/20/05 at 9:03 am
I've been watching since before Biggio and Bagwell joined the club, and I seriously have to say...I really think that after they win the Series....they will retire.
C'mon....what better way to go?
The Rangers are now the MLB team to go the LONGEST without ever making it this far..and as for the Devil Rays...well, they arent even 10 years old...give them time.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/20/05 at 12:30 pm
They haven't won yet. The White Sox have insane pitching this postseason. I think it will be close.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/20/05 at 12:34 pm
They haven't won yet. The White Sox have insane pitching this postseason. I think it will be close.
Think it'll go seven games? ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/20/05 at 12:35 pm
More likely 5 or 6. I think whoever gets the 2-1 lead will win out because the other team will be demoralized.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/20/05 at 12:40 pm
I didn't expect last year's to be a sweep... I cheered for Boston all the way.
We shall see about this year's WS. ;) :o
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/20/05 at 1:16 pm
Sox in 5 games.
The only guy on the Astros pitching staff better than the Sox starters is Oswalt. Oswalt is probably the best pitcher in the majors.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Kenlos on 10/20/05 at 1:53 pm
In other news Braves pitching coach (now former pitching coach) Leo Mazzone has signed a new deal with the Baltimore Orioles.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: TarzSp on 10/20/05 at 1:57 pm
White Sox in 6 Games
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 10/20/05 at 2:06 pm
White Sox in 6 Games
DITTO-----GO SOX!!!!!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/20/05 at 2:08 pm
Is that WS for White Sox or World Series??? ;)
World Series. Sorry...I guess it can be ambiguous at times. :-[ Especially this year. I never refer to the Red Sox as RS for short, however.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/20/05 at 3:55 pm
I actually ran a simulation last night (because I'm a nerd :P) to see if the Cardinals could have come back from a 5-1 deficit in the 9th with the lineup they had. Took me 18 tries to finally tie the game and have Pujols win it with a blast in the bottom of the 10th. So it was a foregone conclusion that the Astros would have won anyway, and even if Wheeler had faltered, there was no way the Cards could have come back against Lidge with those odds.
I think I'll run a simulation for the World Series too.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: grammar patrol on 10/20/05 at 4:28 pm
LOL, you're mighty Cardinals just got punked, 4-1. It would have been a shut out game had Pujols not hit that homer. Roy Oswalt owns you guys.
Uhm...I don't think that the word "punk" can be a verb. I looked it up in my f*** and wagnalls, and it could only be used as a noun and an adjective. So there
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 10/20/05 at 4:42 pm
Uhm...I don't think that the word "punk" can be a verb. I looked it up in my f*** and wagnalls, and it could only be used as a noun and an adjective. So there
Go away
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: PaperGirl on 10/20/05 at 5:22 pm
I was just playing with ya ;) White Sox....World Series.....an omen, perhaps ???
SHEEEEEUUUSSHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: PaperGirl on 10/20/05 at 5:23 pm
Uhm...I don't think that the word "punk" can be a verb. I looked it up in my f*** and wagnalls, and it could only be used as a noun and an adjective. So there
Better tell Ashton Kutcher that. He made a pretty good living Punking people.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/20/05 at 7:21 pm
Uhm...I don't think that the word "punk" can be a verb. I looked it up in my f*** and wagnalls, and it could only be used as a noun and an adjective. So there
..
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/20/05 at 10:41 pm
For anyone who cares:
I was curious as to what might transpire in the Astros-White Sox Series, so I did a simulation of the best-of-7 on EA's MVP Baseball 2005 on Manager Mode. Unfortunately the game doesn't allow for updated rosters to be used in this mode, so there is no Willy Tavarez on the Astros and no Iguchi for the Sox. I'm using Bagwell as the DH while in Chicago and Berkman as the first baseman in Houston. Frank Thomas is hurt and he sucks anyway so I'm leaving him off the simulation.
I COULD play all seven or whatever games myself, but I'm so good against the computer that whichever team I take control of will win 17-3 or something ludicrous like that.
Game 1: Astros 6, ChiSox 5
Astros score 3 runs in the top of the 8th to go ahead after the Sox belted back-to-back homers against Gallo. Contreras was left in the game a few pitches too many because I was retarded. Lidge got the save.
Game 2: ChiSox 8, Astros 4
Astros jumped on Buehrle really early with a 3-0 lead and go up 4-0 by the top of the 6th, but the Sox roar back with a couple homers to make it 4-3, then score 5 unanswered runs in the next two innings. Hermanson and Politte combine for two perfect innings of relief. Buehrle is unusually wild, giving up 6 walks.
Game 3: ChiSox 16, Astros 6
The Sox knocked out Oswalt with 8 runs in the first two innings and cruise to victory. The Astros made it interesting with three quick runs off Takatsu in the bottom of the ninth, but it wasn't to be. Garland scattered 8 hits over 6 innings and gave up 3 runs, striking out 6.
Game 4: ChiSox 6, Astros 5
In a see-saw game, the ChiSox strike first in the opening frame, the Astros answer and go ahead in the 5th on a 3-run homer by Berkman, and the Sox tie the game in the seventh on two homers. Ross Gload comes on as a pinch hitter and belts the game winner. Hermanson gets the save after a decent relief effort by Diaz, and Qualls loses his second game of the series.
Game 5: Astros 4, ChiSox 2
Clemens shuts down the Sox and the Astros win on the strength of Everett's 2-run jack in the bottom of the second inning. Lidge gets his second save of the series. The ChiSox are forced to clinch in Chicago, which I guess is okay.
Game 6: ChiSox 6, Astros 2
The Sox clinch their first World Series title in a bajillion years. The Astros go up 2-0 on Buehrle in the first, but Dye answers with a solo homer in the bottom of the inning and the Sox tack on another run to tie it in the second. The score remains the same until Konerko belts a two-run homer to put the Sox up for good. The Sox add two more insurance runs and Buehrle pitches a complete game for the win.
Not that it will really happen, but it could.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/20/05 at 10:46 pm
...We'll see what does happen. ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/20/05 at 10:48 pm
Have you noticed that in every World Series, there's always that requisite ass-whupping game where one team outscores the other by 20? It's very interesting to me.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/20/05 at 10:55 pm
Have you noticed that in every World Series, there's always that requisite ass-whupping game where one team outscores the other by 20? It's very interesting to me.
I remember that in 2001, Game 6, the Deebacks gave the Yankes a good spanking, 15-2, and won the next day (outsmarting Mariano Rivera). And in Game 5 of the '02 Series, the Gints beat the Angels by a 16-4 landslide (but the Halos came back in Games 6 and 7 to win the Series). I can't remember some of the scores in the '03 Series (in which the Florida Marlins beat the Yankes in six games) to know if there were any @ss-whuuping games. Same with last year, altho the Cards never led in any game.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: PaperGirl on 10/21/05 at 9:28 am
I'll just wait and watch the real thing to see what happens. 8)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: joedeertae on 10/21/05 at 1:42 pm
Go Astros!
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/9968/stros5pl.jpg
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/21/05 at 1:46 pm
As I always say, may the best team win. ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: joedeertae on 10/21/05 at 1:58 pm
As I always say, may the best team win. ;)
Thanks nally ;) ;) ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: PaperGirl on 10/21/05 at 10:21 pm
Some idiot called into the radio station this morning (they were talking about how Cubs & White Sox fans keep ripping on each other) and said that despite Mayor Daley's supposed love of the White Sox, the city doesn't seem to be getting behind them as much as they did the Cubs last year in the playoffs....his case in point was the Sears Tower & Hancock Building last year installing blue lights in support....to which the host replied "Well, the main color of the White Sox is Black....the other is White....what do you suggest they change them to?"....the guy didn't get it so the deejay said "Just look at it this way....when the lights are off, they're black...when they're on, they're white....so, it looks like they're supporting them year round....it's the Cubs fans who should be complaining" ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 10/23/05 at 6:12 am
Go Astros!
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/9968/stros5pl.jpg
Well, they went ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/23/05 at 12:58 pm
Some idiot called into the radio station this morning (they were talking about how Cubs & White Sox fans keep ripping on each other) and said that despite Mayor Daley's supposed love of the White Sox, the city doesn't seem to be getting behind them as much as they did the Cubs last year in the playoffs....his case in point was the Sears Tower & Hancock Building last year installing blue lights in support....to which the host replied "Well, the main color of the White Sox is Black....the other is White....what do you suggest they change them to?"....the guy didn't get it so the deejay said "Just look at it this way....when the lights are off, they're black...when they're on, they're white....so, it looks like they're supporting them year round....it's the Cubs fans who should be complaining" ;D ;D ;D
Something like that happened to us back in England. One of the local radio stations sports chappies was an avid forest fan and when it came to for the City - Forest game (which is a very very heated fixture.. unlike you Yanks with your 'rivalrys' people die when it comes to football ;)) anywho.. he was going on and on about it and how Forest would win because they were superior etc. He was attacked and had this piss kicked out of him the night before the match ;D Kinda shows you the difference between British and American sports dosen't it.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/23/05 at 6:04 pm
Sox won last night 5-3... Game Two kicks off in less than an hour... Go White Sox!!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/23/05 at 6:21 pm
Question: What does everyone think about having the World Series just that a WORLD series? There are leagues in Japan and South America. Why not invite them into the U.S. World Series? I'm not too sure what the logistics should be-the winner of our series plays the winner of the Japanese league or something like that.
Comments?
Cat
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Dagwood on 10/23/05 at 7:01 pm
Good idea, Cat. The Japanese have some pretty good players...they would probably kick our butts. ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/24/05 at 1:24 am
Baseball started out in the United States in the latter part of the 19th Century. The World Series didn't come about until the American League was established in the 1900s and the NL champions invited the AL champions to play a series to decide the true champion of the "world" since nobody else played baseball at the time. Even now, the best players in the world come to the Major League Baseball to play. So even though it's only played in the USA, the World Series is aptly named because it showcases the best talent in the world.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/24/05 at 10:06 am
Baseball started out in the United States in the latter part of the 19th Century. The World Series didn't come about until the American League was established in the 1900s and the NL champions invited the AL champions to play a series to decide the true champion of the "world" since nobody else played baseball at the time. Even now, the best players in the world come to the Major League Baseball to play. So even though it's only played in the USA, the World Series is aptly named because it showcases the best talent in the world.
Hmmm...I didn't know that. I always wondered the story behind the term "World" Series.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/24/05 at 11:57 am
Baseball started out in the United States in the latter part of the 19th Century. The World Series didn't come about until the American League was established in the 1900s and the NL champions invited the AL champions to play a series to decide the true champion of the "world" since nobody else played baseball at the time. Even now, the best players in the world come to the Major League Baseball to play. So even though it's only played in the USA, the World Series is aptly named because it showcases the best talent in the world.
But, there was a time when it was played outside the U.S. I can't remember the year but the Toranto Blue Jays were playing.
Cat
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/24/05 at 12:14 pm
But, there was a time when it was played outside the U.S. I can't remember the year but the Toronto Blue Jays were playing.
Cat
The Toronto Blue Jays played in the World Series in 1992 (against the Braves) and again in 1993 (against the Phillies). They won both times. :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/24/05 at 12:22 pm
The Toronto Blue Jays played in the World Series in 1992 (against the Braves) and again in 1993 (against the Phillies). They won both times. :)
Thanks. I could have looked it up but was too lazy.
Cat
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/24/05 at 12:23 pm
Thanks. I could have looked it up but was too lazy.
Cat
No problem. ;) I remember watching both serieses.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/24/05 at 12:29 pm
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050618/050618_whiteSox_vmed_8p.widec.jpg
Up...Up...UP! GONE!
Next comes the real challenge. The machine known as Roy Oswalt.
Nice to see Lidge get rocked several nights in a row. Cards beat up on him a couple times and thankfully the Sox are now as well.
I like Lidge but i don't want him to be too good. ;D
Here's an interesting little article. http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051021&content_id=1256643&vkey=ps2005news&fext=.jsp
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/24/05 at 12:32 pm
I saw the game last night. The Sox were one out away from winning it, but the Stros tied it up in the top of the ninth with a two-out double by the veteran Jose Vizcaino (who'd had two stints as a Dodger), and then Scott Podsednik hit a walk-off solo home run to win it 7-6.
Even in the rain, they were able to play. When they play in Houston tomorrow night, at least that stadium will have a retractable roof in case there's rain there.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/24/05 at 12:37 pm
I saw the game last night. The Sox were one out away from winning it, but the Stros tied it up in the top of the ninth with a two-out double by the veteran Jose Vizcaino (who'd had two stints as a Dodger), and then Scott Podsednik hit a walk-off solo home run to win it 7-6.
Even in the rain, they were able to play. When they play in Houston tomorrow night, at least that stadium will have a retractable roof in case there's rain there.
Vizcaino the Cardinal killer. Jose Vizcaino and Jeff Kent need to make their own team, the two of them together could beat the Cards ;D I think they both batted something like .550 against Carpenter and Mulder in '05.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/24/05 at 12:46 pm
Vizcaino the Cardinal killer. Jose Vizcaino and Jeff Kent need to make their own team, the two of them together could beat the Cards ;D I think they both batted something like .550 against Carpenter and Mulder in '05.
Both have been with the Dodgers. Kent led the Dodgers this year in home runs. Vizcaino, I remember when he was first a Dodger; I believe he was in the game 15 years ago against the Braves that went 12 innings and lasted 5 hours.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: CatwomanofV on 10/24/05 at 1:19 pm
That grand slam last night was mighty pretty.
Cat
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/24/05 at 1:47 pm
But, there was a time when it was played outside the U.S. I can't remember the year but the Toranto Blue Jays were playing.
Cat
Yes, and that was about 90 years after the World Series came into existence ;) I think the name has more to do with tradition than anything.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 10/24/05 at 2:47 pm
Question: What does everyone think about having the World Series just that a WORLD series? There are leagues in Japan and South America. Why not invite them into the U.S. World Series? I'm not too sure what the logistics should be-the winner of our series plays the winner of the Japanese league or something like that.
Comments?
Cat
Once again I will come through with my fountain of useless knowledge. The Series was started by a Newspaper called "The World" . Since they sponsored it, they called it "The World" Series of Baseball. ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/24/05 at 5:22 pm
Once again I will come through with my fountain of useless knowledge. The Series was started by a Newspaper called "The World" . Since they sponsored it, they called it "The World" Series of Baseball. ;)
THAT makes sense!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/24/05 at 5:50 pm
That grand slam last night was mighty pretty.
Cat
And it was hit by Paul Konerko, a former Dodger.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/24/05 at 10:39 pm
^Nice avatar ;)
Interesting that Podsednik never hit a homer this season, but has hit 2 in the post-season. And, the guy that caught the Konerko homer got invited into the "inner sanctum" of the park and received an autographed bat (though if it's the bat he hit it with is under investigation) and ball in return for the actual home run ball....it's ALL OVER the news today ::)
Thanks.. :) Are you talking about the Shakira picture or the animated dolphins in my sig line?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/25/05 at 12:15 am
BTW, BU, I like yours too.....you finally came to your senses ;D
Already explained this one.
My hatred for the wildcard is so strong that if it came to it.. You'd see a Cubbies logo up there.. no wait.. scratch that. Cubbies v a Wildcard team.. You'd see a noose ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/25/05 at 1:08 am
Wow. The Padres would probably be putting up a better fight than the Astros.
It does my heart good to watch the Astros and their overrated closer Brad Lidge lose. I hope they get swept.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: joedeertae on 10/25/05 at 7:38 am
Well, they went ;)
:P :-X
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: joedeertae on 10/25/05 at 7:59 am
Wow. The Padres would probably be putting up a better fight than the Astros.
It does my heart good to watch the Astros and their overrated closer Brad Lidge lose. I hope they get swept.
How do you figure Lidge is overrated with 103 strikeouts, 23 walks and 42 saves? He's a good as any of the closers in the game.
It's because you don't like him isn't it? ;)
"Lidge had been lights out during a four-month span of June 15 through October 16, converting 29 of 30 save chances and posting a 1.63 ERA in 47 games. He allowed just two homers over that stretch before allowing two in his last two appearances."
and if you think THAT does your heart good, just wait till the Astros win the World Series... we'll see how much good that does yer ticker... :P
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/25/05 at 8:26 am
and if you think THAT does your heart good, just wait till the Astros win the World Series... we'll see how much good that does yer ticker... :P
You do know the Astros have lost two out of two, right? ;)
I want the Astros to lose simply because they caused the Braves to lose. Especially after that first base umpire said Julio Franco's foot wasn't on the bag, when it should have been a double play in the eight inning in game four.
I hate to say, but I hope the Astros lose so bad that it makes little kids in Houston cry.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: joedeertae on 10/25/05 at 9:08 am
You do know the Astros have lost two out of two, right? ;)
Not an easy task I admit, but it can (and will) be done. ;)
I hate to say, but I hope the Astros lose so bad that it makes little kids in Houston cry.
;D ;D ;D LOL... Dude! that's pretty harsh. It's even worse now that I have honestly laughed out loud!
That's pretty darn funny I have to say... ;D
You can't blame the Astros for what the umps have brought to the game. I have seen quite a few bad calls during the NL Championship and the World Series, but at least they haven't been one sided.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: PaperGirl on 10/25/05 at 11:11 am
Amen to that one...
I can't wait for tonight....back at home...with all that support behind us....
I spent the ENTIRE span of game 2 carving a pumpkin with the Astros logo....hubby thought I was nuts...but I didnt care. ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/25/05 at 11:16 am
The dolphins....have there always been 3 sets or was it just my computer messing up?
BTW, BU, I like yours too.....you finally came to your senses ;D
Actually there was only one set, but I placed three copies of it side by side so it looks like they run together.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 10/25/05 at 2:01 pm
And it was hit by Paul Konerko, a former Dodger.
He hit the game winning run against the Red Sox, and he is from Massachusetts.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/25/05 at 2:22 pm
So game three is tonight. I'd like to see the White Sox win it all, but if the Astros win at least once, the series will go on and I'll have more time to enjoy it. Houston might win tonight with Roy Oswalt on the mound.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 2:01 am
You Astros fans must be pissed now.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/26/05 at 5:33 am
If you put the Padres aside, the Astros had the worst record of any team to make the playoffs, in all the majors too, not just the NL. It's really showing too.
This game was really nice. The Astros had a big lead and blew it and lost it after a very long extra inning game. Sound like game 4 of the NLDS this year? What goes around comes around.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 11:50 am
If you put the Padres aside, the Astros had the worst record of any team to make the playoffs, in all the majors too, not just the NL. It's really showing too.
Yeah, that's because the rest of the NL sucked.
This game was really nice. The Astros had a big lead and blew it and lost it after a very long extra inning game. Sound like game 4 of the NLDS this year? What goes around comes around.
That's because Garner inexplicably let Oswalt stay in there to be fed to the wolves in that one inning where he threw like 80 pitches. The guy didn't have a break, his arm had to be jello.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/26/05 at 12:13 pm
Yeah, that's because the rest of the NL sucked.
Yeah, let's ignore the records and the season series and pretend the Astros were/are really better than the Braves and the Cardinals because they beat them in a short series. Both the Braves and the Cardinals, even if you include the playoffs, beat the Astros more than the Astros beat them. Come on the Astros are blowing it. Not even the Padres could do any worse than losing three out of three.
In other news, some race warlord on the radio was saying the Astros are going to lose because they have no black players.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 12:16 pm
Yeah, let's ignore the records and the season series and pretend the Astros were/are really better than the Braves and the Cardinals because they beat them in a short series. Both the Braves and the Cardinals, even if you include the playoffs, beat the Astros more than the Astros beat them. Come on the Astros are blowing it. Not even the Padres could do any worse than losing three out of three.
That's not what the playoffs are about. In many sports, the playoffs are a way of seeding the teams by record so that the best teams can whup on the worst teams. Most of the time, the top seed can destroy the 8th seed...sometimes, there are surprises. They could have been the best team in the regular season, but if they choke, then they prove that maybe they aren't the best team after all. And that is what makes a sports "upset" so great.
In other news, some race warlord on the radio was saying the Astros are going to lose because they have no black players.
Hmmm. They're sorta black. The guy who gave up the game winning homer and walked in the insurance run sure looked black to me.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/26/05 at 12:25 pm
Yeah, let's ignore the records and the season series and pretend the Astros were/are really better than the Braves and the Cardinals because they beat them in a short series. Both the Braves and the Cardinals, even if you include the playoffs, beat the Astros more than the Astros beat them. Come on the Astros are blowing it. Not even the Padres could do any worse than losing three out of three.
;D Very good.
I've said it before so many damn times. GW, i dare say you'll agree with this.
The wildcard team, is the team that was best in September.. and usually August. There are almost always 2-3 teams competeing for the wild card and whoever get's hot wins it. Fact! That hot streak in previous years has carried on to the Post Season. We've seen wild card teams win several times. (and the godawful second place world series a few years back) The Astros were on a hot streak, from about midway through august until a couple of weeks ago, they were probably the best team in baseball. THAT'S A TWO MONTH PERIOD! We play 162 games, no 50.
I'm not anti-astro, i don't have a problem with them, but to pretend that the Astros were a better team than the Cardinals or the Braves is lunacy. (Of the Bud Selig variety) Anybody can win a short series, any team can beat any other team.
I realise i come off sounding like a sore loser here, but.. i'm trying not to be. The Astros played moderatly better baseball in the NLCS and won. They didn't however play better than the Braves, but i'm not going to go in to the atrocious umpire decisions in that series (or the NLCS 15-3 in the Astros favour)
Once again, i will clarify.
The Houston Astros finished in second place. They went on a hot streak and won some games. This does not make them the best team in the Major Leagues and does not make them the best team in the National League. It makes them the best team in September.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 12:34 pm
The wildcard team, is the team that was best in September.. and usually August. There are almost always 2-3 teams competeing for the wild card and whoever get's hot wins it. Fact! That hot streak in previous years has carried on to the Post Season. We've seen wild card teams win several times. (and the godawful second place world series a few years back) The Astros were on a hot streak, from about midway through august until a couple of weeks ago, they were probably the best team in baseball. THAT'S A TWO MONTH PERIOD! We play 162 games, no 50.
So why don't the so-called "best" teams stay hot to keep pace? That implies that they aren't the best.
I'm not anti-astro, i don't have a problem with them, but to pretend that the Astros were a better team than the Cardinals or the Braves is lunacy. (Of the Bud Selig variety) Anybody can win a short series, any team can beat any other team.
They were better in that short series. If anybody can win a short series, then percentages will support the Braves or the Cardinals winning out. That did not happen, which again, implies that the Braves and Cardinals weren't better than the Astros.
I realise i come off sounding like a sore loser here, but.. i'm trying not to be. The Astros played moderatly better baseball in the NLCS and won. They didn't however play better than the Braves, but i'm not going to go in to the atrocious umpire decisions in that series (or the NLCS 15-3 in the Astros favour)
The Cardinals were the "best" team in baseball this year and lost when it counted most. This is not characteristic of being the "best", is it?
Once again, i will clarify.
The Houston Astros finished in second place. They went on a hot streak and won some games. This does not make them the best team in the Major Leagues and does not make them the best team in the National League. It makes them the best team in September.
And they're in the World Series and the "best" teams are not. Oh poo.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/26/05 at 12:37 pm
Can we all agree that the AL DH rule sucks?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 12:38 pm
Can we all agree that the AL DH rule sucks?
I hate the DH. Let the pitcher flail!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/26/05 at 12:40 pm
So why don't the so-called "best" teams stay hot to keep pace? That implies that they aren't the best.
They were better in that short series. If anybody can win a short series, then percentages will support the Braves or the Cardinals winning out. That did not happen, which again, implies that the Braves and Cardinals weren't better than the Astros.
The Cardinals were the "best" team in baseball this year and lost when it counted most. This is not characteristic of being the "best", is it?
And they're in the World Series and the "best" teams are not. Oh poo.
Getting hot isn't a case of being better or having better players. Streaks. Jim Edmonds is the epitome of a streak player. He'll jack 3 homers and bat in 10 RBI's in a week, then he'll be silent for a week.
It's not a percentage thing, you can't base the ability to win on Statistics alone. Statistically the Yankees could win 150 games a year. The players they have are statistically capable of doing amazing things, but they don't, at least not all at once. Same with teams. The Cards have the ability to put 15 runs on the boards, they don't always do it.
There is an element of luck in baseball. When a player swings the bat, he has a vague idea of where the ball is going, usually has a decent idea on how hard he hit it.. however, if the ball drops over the wall, or is caught be the guy in centre field, is all a matter of luck.
They also won 103 when it counted ;)
Can we all agree that the AL DH rule sucks?
Oh god yes
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 12:52 pm
The only pitchers who hit decently that I know of are Carlos Zambrano, Mike Hampton, and that one dude on the Brewers who is in the bullpen but pinch hits regularly...forgot his name.  He hit a couple homers off the bench though.
Most pitchers just bunt, which I think is a waste, but considering how pathetic they are in putting the ball in play, it does make sense.
Getting hot isn't a case of being better or having better players. Streaks. Jim Edmonds is the epitome of a streak player. He'll jack 3 homers and bat in 10 RBI's in a week, then he'll be silent for a week.
It's not a percentage thing, you can't base the ability to win on Statistics alone. Statistically the Yankees could win 150 games a year. The players they have are statistically capable of doing amazing things, but they don't, at least not all at once. Same with teams. The Cards have the ability to put 15 runs on the boards, they don't always do it.
There is an element of luck in baseball. When a player swings the bat, he has a vague idea of where the ball is going, usually has a decent idea on how hard he hit it.. however, if the ball drops over the wall, or is caught be the guy in centre field, is all a matter of luck.
They also won 103 when it counted ÂÂ
So by your logic, the "best" team in baseball this year, the Cardinals, were just a slightly streakier and luckier team than the Astros, who beat them when it actually counted.  The 103 victories does count, because it gave them high seeding, but they couldn't get the prize.  How does that make you feel?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/26/05 at 12:56 pm
The only pitchers who hit decently that I know of are Carlos Zambrano, Mike Hampton, and that one dude on the Brewers who is in the bullpen but pinch hits regularly...forgot his name. He hit a couple homers off the bench though.
Most pitchers just bunt, which I think is a waste, but considering how pathetic they are in putting the ball in play, it does make sense.
So by your logic, the "best" team in baseball this year, the Cardinals, were just a slightly streakier and luckier team than the Astros, who beat them when it actually counted. The 103 victories does count, because it gave them high seeding, but they couldn't get the prize. How does that make you feel?
Jason Marquis can bat. He's not great but if he wasn't a picture i bet he could play first base.
Yes, they were luckier. Luck has a lot to do with it as i said. The astros are a decent team, and yeah, they won the most important games i just don't think they should be in there because they didn't win enough games all year. You could put the Pittsburgh Pirates or the Kansas city royals in the Playoffs and they could win. Dosen't matter, the point is, only 1st place teams should be in it.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 1:03 pm
Jason Marquis can bat. He's not great but if he wasn't a picture i bet he could play first base.
Yes, they were luckier. Luck has a lot to do with it as i said. The astros are a decent team, and yeah, they won the most important games i just don't think they should be in there because they didn't win enough games all year. You could put the Pittsburgh Pirates or the Kansas city royals in the Playoffs and they could win. Dosen't matter, the point is, only 1st place teams should be in it.
But the first place teams couldn't hang with the Astros, so your statement has no objectivity.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/26/05 at 1:07 pm
But the first place teams couldn't hang with the Astros, so your statement has no objectivity.
I already made the point that any team can beat any team on any given occasion. We play 162 games to ensure that cream rises to the top. Play another series and it may well have finished Braves/ Cards 4 - 0 Astros. Ya don't know. I'd have no complaint if the Braves won 4-0 in the NLCS over the Cards.. or if Houston had been in the NL West or something. But they weren't.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/26/05 at 1:10 pm
Yeah, that's because the rest of the NL sucked.
They sure did. ::) ::)
I watched most of the game on TV last night, but turned it off after the 13th inning was over; I was getting tired. But I did listen to the rest of it on the radio before I went to bed. Even though I'm rooting for the White Sox, I wasn't expecting them to win last night's game... but they did.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/26/05 at 1:11 pm
Does it really matter?  No matter which argument you use, the Astros are not the best.  They are probably going to get swept tonight and give the White Sox their first world series since 1917.
The only thing Astro fans need are paper bags.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 1:13 pm
I already made the point that any team can beat any team on any given occasion. We play 162 games to ensure that cream rises to the top. Play another series and it may well have finished Braves/ Cards 4 - 0 Astros. Ya don't know. I'd have no complaint if the Braves won 4-0 in the NLCS over the Cards.. or if Houston had been in the NL West or something. But they weren't.
They did rise to the top, and the Astros knocked them down.  The Astros had a better record than the NL West Champion Padres, who were dismantled by the Cards.  The Astros in turn whupped on the Cardinals, albeit a wounded team, but still formidable. ÂÂ
The reason the 162 games are played isn't just to find out who gets the best record, but to seed the teams in the playoffs.  Part of the excitement of the sport comes from the possibility that a lower seeded team can eliminate the top seed.  It creates the David vs. Goliath underdog role that lots of people enjoy.  What's wrong with that?  Especially if the underdog just proved that they are more than capable?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 1:14 pm
Does it really matter?  No matter which argument you use, the Astros are not the best.  They are probably going to get swept tonight and give the White Sox their first world series since 1917.
The only thing Astro fans need are paper bags.
They aren't the best, as the Sox are quickly proving. But they also proved that the Cardinals aren't the best either. Nor the Braves ;)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/26/05 at 1:16 pm
The only thing Astro fans need are paper bags.
;D
Refunds for thursday night as well
They did rise to the top, and the Astros knocked them down. Â The Astros had a better record than the NL West Champion Padres, who were dismantled by the Cards. Â The Astros in turn whupped on the Cardinals, albeit a wounded team, but still formidable. Â
The reason the 162 games are played isn't just to find out who gets the best record, but to seed the teams in the playoffs. Â Part of the excitement of the sport comes from the possibility that a lower seeded team can eliminate the top seed. Â It creates the David vs. Goliath underdog role that lots of people enjoy. Â What's wrong with that? Â Especially if the underdog just proved that they are more than capable?
See, the Padres pissed me off this year. Teams do however play a majority of games against teams in their division and the Padres whooped the piss out of the other teams in the west.
You raise a point. The cardinals were hamperd by Injury but that isn't an excuse.
I don't think we're going to agree on this one.
It's a luck thing. I believe because any team can get lucky, only the teams the deserving teams (i.e the division winners) should be in there.
It's like having Tiger woods win the Masters by 11 strokes and then making him go in a playoff against the second placed guy. It's retarded.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 1:22 pm
How can you argue that the Astros aren't deserving though? They got in based on the system in place and proved that they more than deserved to go to the World Series through ACTION.
It's like having Tiger woods win the Masters by 11 strokes and then making him go in a playoff against the second placed guy. It's retarded.
The way golf is set up, that will never happen. But in baseball, it can, and the Astros beat a team that was 11 games up in the division ;)
But let's say the Cardinals had a record of .520 and the Yankees had a record of .750 and both made the World Series. Would you have issues with the Cardinals sweeping the Yankees?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 10/26/05 at 2:17 pm
I hate the DH. Let the pitcher flail!
That and intentional walks, I hate them, every pitch should be an honest pitch
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 3:00 pm
That and intentional walks, I hate them, every pitch should be an honest pitch
There should be a quota on intentional walks per game. If they exceed the quota, it should be a penalty of one base, like a balk.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 4:39 pm
For anyone who cares:
I was curious as to what might transpire in the Astros-White Sox Series, so I did a simulation of the best-of-7 on EA's MVP Baseball 2005 on Manager Mode. Unfortunately the game doesn't allow for updated rosters to be used in this mode, so there is no Willy Tavarez on the Astros and no Iguchi for the Sox. I'm using Bagwell as the DH while in Chicago and Berkman as the first baseman in Houston. Frank Thomas is hurt and he sucks anyway so I'm leaving him off the simulation.
I COULD play all seven or whatever games myself, but I'm so good against the computer that whichever team I take control of will win 17-3 or something ludicrous like that.
Game 1:  Astros 6, ChiSox 5
Astros score 3 runs in the top of the 8th to go ahead after the Sox belted back-to-back homers against Gallo. Contreras was left in the game a few pitches too many because I was retarded. Lidge got the save.
Game 2:  ChiSox 8, Astros 4
Astros jumped on Buehrle really early with a 3-0 lead and go up 4-0 by the top of the 6th, but the Sox roar back with a couple homers to make it 4-3, then score 5 unanswered runs in the next two innings. Hermanson and Politte combine for two perfect innings of relief. Buehrle is unusually wild, giving up 6 walks.
Game 3: ChiSox 16, Astros 6
The Sox knocked out Oswalt with 8 runs in the first two innings and cruise to victory. The Astros made it interesting with three quick runs off Takatsu in the bottom of the ninth, but it wasn't to be. Garland scattered 8 hits over 6 innings and gave up 3 runs, striking out 6.
Game 4: ChiSox 6, Astros 5
In a see-saw game, the ChiSox strike first in the opening frame, the Astros answer and go ahead in the 5th on a 3-run homer by Berkman, and the Sox tie the game in the seventh on two homers. Ross Gload comes on as a pinch hitter and belts the game winner. Hermanson gets the save after a decent relief effort by Diaz, and Qualls loses his second game of the series.
Game 5: Astros 4, ChiSox 2
Clemens shuts down the Sox and the Astros win on the strength of Everett's 2-run jack in the bottom of the second inning. Lidge gets his second save of the series. The ChiSox are forced to clinch in Chicago, which I guess is okay.
Game 6: ChiSox 6, Astros 2
The Sox clinch their first World Series title in a bajillion years. The Astros go up 2-0 on Buehrle in the first, but Dye answers with a solo homer in the bottom of the inning and the Sox tack on another run to tie it in the second. The score remains the same until Konerko belts a two-run homer to put the Sox up for good. The Sox add two more insurance runs and Buehrle pitches a complete game for the win.
Not that it will really happen, but it could.
Wow, the simulation sorta worked, eh?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 10:17 pm
OooooOOOOOoooooooh...
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 10:30 pm
Ooooh! Ooooh! Life! :D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 10:38 pm
AwwwWWWWWwwwwwww......bummer.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 10:45 pm
Why the hell is Rowand bunting on those crappy ass pitches? And why'd he bunt on an 0-2 count??
That was retarded.
In fact, why is he bunting at all? He's a power hitter, you don't bunt with your power hitters. Bah.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 10:53 pm
Oooh, more life.
Now THAT was a good bunt. Good Ausmus.
And now Burke is in for Everett. He should have been in the entire game, I mean, he hit the lights out against StL, right?
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 10:58 pm
Uribe caught that!?! How Jeteresque.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/26/05 at 11:07 pm
How appropriate that the clinching game was a pitchers' duel. I can't believe that Uribe actually made that out, it looked reeeeeeeeeeeeeally close. Or that diving catch either.
Great game, better than the demoralizing blowout I would have expected based on sports history :)
Sorry for spamming.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/26/05 at 11:21 pm
SOX WIN SOX WIN SOX WIN!
Ok, enough of that.
Marvelous game to cap a very good series.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Meghan88 on 10/26/05 at 11:38 pm
I still love the Astros. They did well considering the circumstances.
Awesome Job guys!
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/27/05 at 8:51 am
Considering WHAT circumstances ??? The umps? The fact that the dome was ordered to remain open (which, btw, there is already a lawsuit filed against Selig ::))?
I have an e-mail i'll have to send you. The full argument against selig.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: GWBush2004 on 10/27/05 at 9:24 am
I heard something on the radio that was funny. While listening to the local sports station, 680 "the fan" WCNN, they read some column that said that depite the White Sox winning the world series, the Cubs are still the most-loved team by Chicago residents. ;D I wish I could find the column on the internet, but searches are yielding nothing.
Let's see:
2004 world series: Boston Red Sox. First one since 1918.
2005 world series: Chicago White Sox. First one since 1917.
So I guess the pattern means the Cubs are next.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/27/05 at 1:05 pm
Personally, I don't see the Cubs winning a WS in my lifetime....
Maybe not, but I do wanna see 'em win one. :-\\
I was watching the game last night, and was stunned (for lack of a better word) at how the Astros got so many guys on base, but couldn't cash any of 'em in. I'm glad the CWS won; they were overdue for a championship. :)
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/27/05 at 1:11 pm
Maybe not, but I do wanna see 'em win one. :-\\
The cubs.. winning a world series, would mark the start of the apocalypse ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: PaperGirl on 10/27/05 at 4:25 pm
I guess I should be releived....my 3rd tattoo was riding on the Series...
But I;m not. I still love my boys....they played an amazing Series.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: STAR70 on 10/27/05 at 5:12 pm
The cubs.. winning a world series, would mark the start of the apocalypse ;D
too late, the BoSox have already started the countdown
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Rice_Cube on 10/27/05 at 6:05 pm
Personally, I don't see the Cubs winning a WS in my lifetime....
Their best shot was in 2003. If they had beat the Marlins, they had a decent shot at the Yankees, but they choked and self-destructed.
If the lineup stays the same, Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez are excellent hitters and Nomar should stay healthy this time around (yeah, right) and he had been playing well since he got off the DL, so maaaaaaaaaaybe...
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: Alchoholica on 10/28/05 at 12:26 pm
Their best shot was in 2003. If they had beat the Marlins, they had a decent shot at the Yankees, but they choked and self-destructed.
If the lineup stays the same, Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez are excellent hitters and Nomar should stay healthy this time around (yeah, right) and he had been playing well since he got off the DL, so maaaaaaaaaaybe...
Nomar hasn't been Normar for about 2 years now.
Ramirez will be an interesting one to see.
Derek Lee played so far over his head this year it wasn't funny. I like the guy and think he is a very good ball player.. But man, the Cubbie fans are gonna have a shock in store when he reverts back to regular derek lee ;D
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: nally on 10/28/05 at 4:42 pm
Their best shot was in 2003. If they had beat the Marlins, they had a decent shot at the Yankees, but they choked and self-destructed.
If the lineup stays the same, Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez are excellent hitters and Nomar should stay healthy this time around (yeah, right) and he had been playing well since he got off the DL, so maaaaaaaaaaybe...
I would've liked to have seen a Cubs-Red Sox series two years ago. In which event I would root for CHC.
Subject: Re: 2005 Baseball season
Written By: danootaandme on 10/31/05 at 4:58 pm
Theo Epstein, the youngest manager in baseball, and the guy who brought the Red Sox to the Series
has resigned in the eleventh hour. They had even announced that it was a done deal, but he never
did. It wasn't the money, it was autonomy. All the fans are in a dither, personally I think he may be
going wiath Manny, wherever that may be(the Mets?)