On this thread, I list a group of bands, and you decide if you think they're "emo" or "not emo".

All-American Rejects
Green Day
Weezer
Simple Plan
Good Charlotte
Death Cab For Cutie
The Killers
Franz Ferdinand
Linkin Park
Modest Mouse
Presidents of the United States of America
Nine Days
Sum 41
Fall Out Boy
Dashboard Confessional
Brand New
Atreyu
Panic At The Disco
The Bravery
The Walkmen
The Postal Service
Relient K
Blink 182
Jimmy Eat World
Lit
Smash Mouth

All-American Rejects-Yes, emo pop-punk.
Green Day-Their recent work is, their whole history isn't.
Weezer-'90s alt rock that influenced emo.
Simple Plan-Emo pop-punk.
Good Charlotte-Emo pop-punk.
Death Cab For Cutie-Yes...indiemo.
The Killers-A form of indiemo.
Franz Ferdinand-Hipster music, not indiemo.
Linkin Park-Not really.
Modest Mouse-An influence, but not quite emo.
Presidents of the United States of America-I suppose so.
Nine Days-Eh.
Sum 41-No.
Fall Out Boy-Emo pop-punk.
Dashboard Confessional-Yes, very, very, very, emo.
Brand New-Pretty emo.
Atreyu-I'd suppose so.
Panic At The Disco-Very emo.
The Bravery-Somewhat.
The Walkmen-Somewhat.
The Postal Service-Indiemo in some ways.
Relient K-Not really.
Blink 182-No...an influence but still no. More '90s pop-punk.
Jimmy Eat World
Lit-No.
Smash Mouth-NO.

All-American Rejects-Yes, emo pop-punk.
Green Day-Their recent work is, their whole history isn't.
Weezer-'90s alt rock that influenced emo.
Simple Plan-Emo pop-punk.
Good Charlotte-Emo pop-punk.
Death Cab For Cutie-Yes...indiemo.
The Killers-A form of indiemo.
Franz Ferdinand-Hipster music, not indiemo.
Linkin Park-Not really.
Modest Mouse-An influence, but not quite emo.
Presidents of the United States of America-I suppose so.
Nine Days-Eh.
Sum 41-No.
Fall Out Boy-Emo pop-punk.
Dashboard Confessional-Yes, very, very, very, emo.
Brand New-Pretty emo.
Atreyu-I'd suppose so.
Panic At The Disco-Very emo.
The Bravery-Somewhat.
The Walkmen-Somewhat.
The Postal Service-Indiemo in some ways.
Relient K-Not really.
Blink 182-No...an influence but still no. More '90s pop-punk.
Jimmy Eat World
Lit-No.
Smash Mouth-NO.




I'd agree with this :)

All-American Rejects...EMO
Green Day...NOT EMO
Weezer...NOT EMO
Simple Plan...EMO
Good Charlotte...EMO
Death Cab For Cutie...NOT EMO
The Killers...NOT EMO
Franz Ferdinand...NOT EMO
Linkin Park...NOT EMO
Modest Mouse...NOT EMO
Presidents of the United States of America...NOT EMO
Nine Days...NOT EMO
Sum 41...NOT EMO
Fall Out Boy...EMO
Dashboard Confessional...EMO
Brand New???
Atreyu???
Panic At The Disco...EMO
The Bravery???
The Walkmen???
The Postal Service...EMO
Relient K...EMO
Blink 182...NOT EMO
Jimmy Eat World...EMO
Lit???
Smash Mouth...NOT EMO

All-American Rejects- Punk EMO
Green Day- Punk
Weezer- Punk
Simple Plan- Punk EMO
Good Charlotte- Punk EMO
Death Cab For Cutie- The only Pure EMO Band
The Killers- Modern Rock
Franz Ferdinand- Modern Rock
Linkin Park- Numetal
Modest Mouse- Indie, with hints of EMO
Nine Days- Pop
Sum 41- Punk
Fall Out Boy- Rock EMO/the Ghey
Dashboard Confessional- Punk EMO
Brand New- Impure EMO
Atreyu- Metal EMO
Panic At The Disco- Rock EMO Pop
The Bravery- Punk EMO
The Walkmen- Yes
The Postal Service- Indie EMO
Relient K- Christian Pop/Sh-t
Blink 182- Punk
Jimmy Eat World- Ghey
Lit- No clue
Smash Mouth- Pop

this is what i think:

All-American Rejects- emo
Green Day- not emo
Weezer- not emo
Simple Plan-emo
Good Charlotte-not emo
Death Cab For Cutie-not emo
The Killers-not emo
Franz Ferdinand-not emo
Linkin Park-emo
Modest Mouse-not emo
Presidents of the United States of America-never heard of them so I don't know
Nine Days-never heard of them
Sum 41-emo
Fall Out Boy-emo
Dashboard Confessional-emo
Brand New-emo
Atreyu-emo
Panic At The Disco-emo
The Bravery-heard of them but I haven't heard any of their songs
The Walkmen-never heard of them
The Postal Service-not emo
Relient K-umm I'm on the bubble here but I'll go with not emo
Blink 182-emo
Jimmy Eat World-again on the bubble but I'll say emo
Lit-umm I'll say emo
Smash Mouth-not emo

All-American Rejects-emo
Green Day-not emo
Weezer-not emo
Simple Plan-emo
Good Charlotte-emo
Death Cab For Cutie-emo
The Killers-not emo
Franz Ferdinand-not emo
Linkin Park-not emo
Modest Mouse-not emo
Presidents of the United States of America-not emo
Nine Days-not emo
Sum 41-emo
Fall Out Boy-emo
Dashboard Confessional-emo
Brand New-emo
Atreyu-emo
Panic At The Disco-emo
The Bravery-not emo
The Walkmen-not emo
The Postal Service-emo
Relient K-emo
Blink 182-not emo
Jimmy Eat World-emo
Lit-?
Smash Mouth-not emo

I think I'm the only person here who thinks the Killers are somewhat emo.

I think I'm the only person here who thinks the Killers are somewhat emo.


I think they're emo-ish.

All-American Rejects                                              - emo
Green Day                                                            - more pop punk than emo
Weezer                                                              - not emo
Simple Plan                                                          - earlier pop punk, now emoish
Good Charlotte                                                    - pop punk
Death Cab For Cutie                                              - emo
The Killers                                                          - not emo
Franz Ferdinand                                                  - not emo
Linkin Park                                                          - nu metal
Modest Mouse                                                    - not emo
Presidents of the United States of America              - not emo
Nine Days                                                          - haven't heard any of their music
Sum 41                                                              - combo of emo and pop punk
Fall Out Boy                                                        - emo
Dashboard Confessional                                        - emo
Brand New                                                        - emo
Atreyu                                                              - really loud emo
Panic At The Disco                                              - emo
The Bravery                                                      - emoish
The Walkmen                                                    - sort of
The Postal Service                                              - emo
Relient K                                                      - haven't heard any of their  music                           
Blink 182                                                          - pop punk
Jimmy Eat World                                                - not emo (are they still around?)
Lit                                                        - not emo (are they still  around?)                                 

my friend yesterday let me listen to this song called "Emo Kid" by 2 guys named Adam and Andrew and it's really funny.  Everything they say is pretty much true about emos.  If you want to read the lyrics go here http://www.lyricsmagnet.com/song/ADAM+AND+ANDREW/EMO+KID_lyrics_izigis.html ;D

***but I warn you that there is some crude humor but it's still funny****

my friend yesterday let me listen to this song called "Emo Kid" by 2 guys named Adam and Andrew and it's really funny.  Everything they say is pretty much true about emos.  If you want to read the lyrics go here http://www.lyricsmagnet.com/song/ADAM+AND+ANDREW/EMO+KID_lyrics_izigis.html ;D

***but I warn you that there is some crude humor but it's still funny****


With the same warning that some of y'all may want to avoid it...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1651997757427874922&q=sugar+we%27re&pl=true

For the most part I'm not sure about the actual way to classify as I'm no good at that but there're a few I'd be willing to give a definite no to the emo possibility:

Weezer
Green Day
Franz Ferdinand
POTUSA
Nine Days
Sum 41
The Walkmen
Relient K
Blink-182
Lit
Smash Mouth

I'm not saying the others listed are emo, just saying they're close enough that I can't give a definite answer. (Bravery/Killers almost made my above list but I can vaguely see where they might have small traces)

Before I rate them, please note I consider Emo and Commercial Emo to be two different things.  Commercial Emo is basically boy bands with guitars.

All-American Rejects - Commercial Emo
Green Day - No, but they're partially to blame for Emo's popularity.  Just look at their clothes.
Weezer - Not Emo, but an influence
Simple Plan - Whiny pop-punk.  They're a boy band with guitars who came out before the word Emo was being thrown around everywhere.
Good Charlotte - Pop-Punk.  Their most well known album came out in 2002.
Death Cab For Cutie - Indie Rock
The Killers - some weird New-Wave Revival music or something
Franz Ferdinand - Indie Rock
Linkin Park - Nu-Metal.  They do have A LOT of Emo tendencies, but Emo bands don't rap and have DJs.
Modest Mouse - Indie Rock
Presidents of the United States of America - Their biggest song was in the mid 90's.  Not Emo.
Nine Days - Not Emo.  I only know one of their songs and it wasn't Emo.
Sum 41 - Pop Punk
Fall Out Boy - Commercial Emo
Dashboard Confessional - Emo
Brand New - Emo
Atreyu - Metal.  They have Emo connections though, including being on the same record label as that terrible band Hawthorne Heights.
Panic At The Disco - Commercial Emo
The Bravery - see The Killers
The Walkmen - Never heard of them
The Postal Service - Indie Rock
Relient K - Commercial Emo
Blink 182 - Pop-Punk
Jimmy Eat World - Older form of Emo before it became super popular
Lit - Pop-Punk
Smash Mouth - Just plain crap

The term Emo is really overused.  Emo music is whiny, but not all whiny music is Emo.  Also, I hate the lumping together of Pop-Punk, Indie Rock, and Emo in this topic.  How would Smash Mouth be even close to Emo?

With the same warning that some of y'all may want to avoid it...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1651997757427874922&q=sugar+we%27re&pl=true



lmao that was hilarious ;D

All-American Rejects emo
Green Day punk then pop/rock
Weezer indie then pop/rock
Simple Plan just crap
Good Charlotte just crap
Death Cab For Cutie emo
The Killers indie rock/neo-wave or whatever it's called
Franz Ferdinand brit-pop revival
Linkin Park nu metal
Modest Mouse indie rock
Presidents of the United States of America definatly not emo
Nine Days ???
Sum 41 pop punk crap
Fall Out Boy post-punk
Dashboard Confessional ???
Brand New ???
Atreyu ???
Panic At The Disco ???
The Bravery ???
The Walkmen neo-wave
The Postal Service neo-wave with hints of emo
Relient K ???
Blink 182 pop punk crap
Jimmy Eat World ???
Lit alt. rock
Smash Mouth ???

On this thread, I list a group of bands, and you decide if you think they're "emo" or "not emo".

All-American Rejects
Green Day
Weezer
Simple Plan
Good Charlotte
Death Cab For Cutie
The Killers
Franz Ferdinand
Linkin Park
Modest Mouse
Presidents of the United States of America
Nine Days
Sum 41
Fall Out Boy
Dashboard Confessional
Brand New
Atreyu
Panic At The Disco
The Bravery
The Walkmen
The Postal Service
Relient K
Blink 182
Jimmy Eat World
Lit
Smash Mouth




Bolded groups are what I consider emo. 

I personally like the term "indiemo" for most indie rock out there today.

All-American Rejects- Emo
Green Day- Emo
Weezer- some what emo
Simple Plan-Emo
Good Charlotte- Very emo
Death Cab For Cutie- emo
The Killers- some what emo
Franz Ferdinand- not emo
Linkin Park-sell outs
Modest Mouse- never heard of them
Presidents of the United States of America- not emo
Nine Days-eh
Sum 41-um i would say both
Fall Out Boy- God so emo
Dashboard Confessional- Very very very emo
Brand New- Some of both
Atreyu- Not
Panic At The Disco- they sound like fall out boy yes emo
The Bravery- not emo
The Walkmen- eh
The Postal Service- sucks
Relient K-Emo
Blink 182- were good emo now
Jimmy Eat World- emo
Lit-eh
Smash Mouth-sucky

I'd like to add the following...

Bright Eyes-The ultimate indiemo.
Arcade Fire-Eh. It's definitely emo-influenced, but it's more A/C indie I suppose.
Architecture in Helsinki-Somewhat indiemo, about as much as Belle and Sebastian.
Belle and Sebastian-Somewhat indiemo.
The Strokes-It's indie hipster music, but not emo.

I'd add Hawthorne Heights and Taking Back Sunday as Emo.

And My Chemical Romance.

And My Chemical Romance.


Yea them too, very emo.

I don't know how well-known they are, but I bought two CDs without having actually heard the stuff on them (I do that sometimes), one by Rocket Summer and one by Hellogoodbye... both are probably emo.

I don't know how well-known they are, but I bought two CDs without having actually heard the stuff on them (I do that sometimes), one by Rocket Summer and one by Hellogoodbye... both are probably emo.


Well hellogoodbye is a tuffy. I've only heard a couple of their songs but they don't really sound emo nor look emo. But I would say their lyrics are emoish

On this thread, I list a group of bands, and you decide if you think they're "emo" or "not emo".

All-American Rejects
Simple Plan
Good Charlotte
Fall Out Boy
Dashboard Confessional
Panic At The Disco
Relient K





I left the ones that I think are and the ones I don't know... too many people think the wrong things are emo.

Emo is probably one of the most bullsh*t music terms ever invented...along with 'Alternative', 'Indie', 'Modern/Classic Rock', 'Progressive Rock', 'Acid/anything.'

Emo is probably one of the most bullsh*t music terms ever invented...along with 'Alternative', 'Indie', 'Modern/Classic Rock', 'Progressive Rock', 'Acid/anything.'


Emo, alternative, indie, prog-rock, blues, classic rock, acid-rock, metal, punk, modern rock, new-wave... It's all rock 'n' roll as far as I'm concerned.

Emo is probably one of the most bullsh*t music terms ever invented...along with 'Alternative', 'Indie', 'Modern/Classic Rock', 'Progressive Rock', 'Acid/anything.'




Progressive rock is when a song has many different stages... much like any other song?

Alternative is basically the same as Modern rock.

Classic rock is any rock before the nineties, really...

And indie is something published by an independant company.

Progressive rock is when a song has many different stages... much like any other song?

Alternative is basically the same as Modern rock.

Classic rock is any rock before the nineties, really...

And indie is something published by an independant company.


Alternative is supposed to be 'different' from 'mainstream' (whatever that is), but often times very conventional sounding rock is termed 'alternative'. I've heard almost everything - from Green day, to Jane's Addiction, to Red Hot Chilli Peppers bandied around as 'alternative'. Alternative to what? I think we should scrap these ambigious, generalised terms and stick to Blues, Roots, Metal.etc.

Alternative is supposed to be 'different' from 'mainstream' (whatever that is), but often times very conventional sounding rock is termed 'alternative'. I've heard almost everything - from Green day, to Jane's Addiction, to Red Hot Chilli Peppers bandied around as 'alternative'. Alternative to what? I think we should scrap these ambigious, generalised terms and stick to Blues, Roots, Metal.etc.



To me, Alternative is basically like power pop, but with more depth?


Speaking of RHCP, they just played... after Nirvana...


BOTH ALTERNATIVE GROUPS! (to some people)

Emo is probably one of the most bullsh*t music terms ever invented...along with 'Alternative', 'Indie', 'Modern/Classic Rock', 'Progressive Rock', 'Acid/anything.'




To me...

Indie-Refers to 2000+ hipster music and indie label music, and maybe some late '90s stuff.
Alternative-Refers to the whole 1985-2000 "alt rock" scene...pretty varied, includes stuff ranging from Tori Amos to RHCP to Radiohead to Nirvana to Sonic Youth to maybe Oasis. 1984-2000ish in the US and 1990-2000 in Britain.
Modern Rock-New wave and post-punk and its derivatives and descendents, including synthpop and some '00s revival stuff. Late '70s and '80s, and '00s rock that is undoubtedly created by the punk revolution but is not punk.
Classic Rock-1964-1979 guitar rock. Includes prog rock, '70s stadium rock, psychedelic music and SF scene music, glam rock, folk rock, British Invasion, early heavy metal, and maybe some disco, pop, Motown, etc. Punk and new wave, though, is modern and not classic rock.
Progressive Rock-'70s guitar rock centered on extremely long songs and elaborate themes...largely British. Includes Emerson Lake & Palmer, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, etc. and in an indirect way Led Zeppelin. Also arguably includes some '90s alt rock and alt metal like Tool and Radiohead.
Emo-Includes both some indie and some pop-punk from 2001+. Gratuitously depressing, pretentious, and whiny music.
Metal-Probably the largest category of any of these...ranges from early '70s stuff like Black Sabbath through hair metal, nu metal, speed metal, real metal...
New Wave-Late '70s-Mid '80s genre that uses synthesizers and pop song construction heavily. Part of the banner of modern rock.
Punk-Another difficult term. The 1977-1982 music centered around the Sex Pistols, Siouxsie Sioux and the Banshees, the Ramones, the Clash, the Jam, the Damned...also arguably includes hardcore and, in a distant way, pop-punk from 1990+.

Indie just means 'independent' - not belonging to a major record label. Hence should have no relation to being a 'genre.' That's why I don't like it when bands are labelled 'Indie' as if it's a genre. They shouldn't be so lazy and properly categorise them. Just avoids alot of confusion.

I keep it simple:

Alternative- Emo, Grunge, Punk, Nu Metal, and all those other sub genres
Modern Rock- Nickelback, Maroon 5, 3 Doors Down, Creed, Matchbox Twenty, Train, Coldplay, Lifehouse generally what they play on adult comtempory stations

I keep it simple:

Alternative- Emo, Grunge, Punk, Nu Metal, and all those other sub genres
Modern Rock- Nickelback, Maroon 5, 3 Doors Down, Creed, Matchbox Twenty, Train, Coldplay, Lifehouse generally what they play on adult comtempory stations


I consider most of the aforementioned A/C radio rock you mentioned to either be real '00s A/C (Maroon 5, Lifehouse, 3 Doors Down, Coldplay), all of which is sort of unto itself in its generic blandness, or post-grunge, like Nickelback, Creed, Matchbox Twenty. Nu metal is not really alt rock, IMO, and neither is pop-punk...it's all part of the great radio rock sludge.

Apparently, alt rock was too commercial so they reverted to "indie rock." To me, "indie" is a convenient term to describe the latest wave of alt rock, which includes the modern rock (new wave/post punk/synthpop) revival, the classic rock revival and current indie rock, post-rock, indiemo (Bright Eyes, etc.), emo, screamo, hardcore revival, etc. I also think that all the super-cerebral twee pop, like Architecture in Helsinki, Belle and Sebastian, The Unicorns, fits into the whole thing, and stuff like the Decembrists, Arcade Fire, etc. does too..."indie-yuppie" music.

I consider most of the aforementioned A/C radio rock you mentioned to either be real '00s A/C (Maroon 5, Lifehouse, 3 Doors Down, Coldplay), all of which is sort of unto itself in its generic blandness, or post-grunge, like Nickelback, Creed, Matchbox Twenty. Nu metal is not really alt rock, IMO, and neither is pop-punk...it's all part of the great radio rock sludge.

Apparently, alt rock was too commercial so they reverted to "indie rock." To me, "indie" is a convenient term to describe the latest wave of alt rock, which includes the modern rock (new wave/post punk/synthpop) revival, the classic rock revival and current indie rock, post-rock, indiemo (Bright Eyes, etc.), emo, screamo, hardcore revival, etc. I also think that all the super-cerebral twee pop, like Architecture in Helsinki, Belle and Sebastian, The Unicorns, fits into the whole thing, and stuff like the Decembrists, Arcade Fire, etc. does too..."indie-yuppie" music.



To me, the mid '00s rock scene is basically like this:

Clear Channel Rock: early '90s grunge (Nirvana), post-grunge (Creed), nu metal (Linkin Park), nu-punk (Blink 182), various '90s (Chili Peppers)
Indie/Modern Rock: (all of these can be collectively considered part of the Emo movement): Neo-wave (The Killers), classic rock revival (White Stripes), emo rock (Fall Out
Boy), hardcore emo/metalcore/screamo/Hot Topic rock (Atreyu), indiemo (Death Cab), smart (ass?  ;D) rock (Arcade Fire)
Pop/Top 40 Rock: Pop-punk/emo pop (Simple Plan), grunge-pop (Lifehouse)

To me, the mid '00s rock scene is basically like this:

Clear Channel Rock: early '90s grunge (Nirvana), post-grunge (Creed), nu metal (Linkin Park), nu-punk (Blink 182), various '90s (Chili Peppers)
Indie/Modern Rock: (all of these can be collectively considered part of the Emo movement): Neo-wave (The Killers), classic rock revival (White Stripes), emo rock (Fall Out
Boy), hardcore emo/metalcore/screamo/Hot Topic rock (Atreyu), indiemo (Death Cab), smart (ass?  ;D) rock (Arcade Fire)
Pop/Top 40 Rock: Pop-punk/emo pop (Simple Plan), grunge-pop (Lifehouse)



Where does the term "Clear Channel" come from?

Where does the term "Clear Channel" come from?


The radio company.

The radio company.


How do the two relate? From what it seems, Clear Channel plays a mix of c. 1999 holdovers. I'd add Maroon 5 and Yellowcard to the Top 40 Rock category...and stuff like James Blunt and Kelly Clarkson.

How do the two relate? From what it seems, Clear Channel plays a mix of c. 1999 holdovers. I'd add Maroon 5 and Yellowcard to the Top 40 Rock category...and stuff like James Blunt and Kelly Clarkson.


I think CC owns most of, or a ton of the stations.  Thus, I call any '90s/'00s rock station format CC rock.

Indie just means 'independent' - not belonging to a major record label. Hence should have no relation to being a 'genre.' That's why I don't like it when bands are labelled 'Indie' as if it's a genre. They shouldn't be so lazy and properly categorise them. Just avoids alot of confusion.


I think it's because a lot of indie groups sound similar.

I think it's because a lot of indie groups sound similar.


They do, they sort of have the same sort of self-aware "intelligent" sound.

They do, they sort of have the same sort of self-aware "intelligent" sound.


They can be a bit too cerebral at times. Not...sensual, for want of a better word, enough.

They can be a bit too cerebral at times. Not...sensual, for want of a better word, enough.


Yeah, I can only take very cerebral music and/or very whiny, grating music in small doses. The Talking Heads somehow managed to be both cerebral and highly funky and sensual.

Alternative is basically the same as Modern rock.


... no?

Modern Rock is, like, Soul Coughing.

... no?

Modern Rock is, like, Soul Coughing.



Soul Coughing is also considered Alternative, no?

All-American Rejects-More recently emo
Green Day-Not really, but a large influence on the emo scene
Weezer-No
Simple Plan-Suck too much to have a genre
Good Charlotte-Same as Simple Plan
Death Cab For Cutie-Emo
The Killers-Nope
Franz Ferdinand-Nope
Linkin Park-Why are they even on this list
Modest Mouse-One of those bands with emo influences, but not emo, like Coheed and Cambria
Presidents of the United States of America-Not really
Nine Days-Never heard of them.
Sum 41-Nope
Fall Out Boy-Yes, worst band I've ever heard
Dashboard Confessional-Emo, and Second worst
Brand New-A bit
Atreyu-Emo, and 3rd worst
Panic At The Disco-very emo
The Bravery-Who?
The Walkmen-Who?
The Postal Service-Not really
Relient K-No
Blink 182-No
Jimmy Eat World-Yes
Lit-Who?
Smash Mouth-Not emo, but crap

Sorry for the bump, but had to post.  This whole emo crap is ridiculous.  Since when is being sad cool?

The Walkmen aren't emo... ::)

Bump

The Walkmen aren't emo... ::)


Who are the Walkmen? lol

Who are the Walkmen? lol


Only Trimac knows... Actually, he sent me one song. It wasn't emo, but then again... what IS emo?

Only Trimac knows... Actually, he sent me one song. It wasn't emo, but then again... what IS emo?


The Walkmen only have one sound.

Soul Coughing is also considered Alternative, no?


.. Everything except teen pop, country, and rap is Alternative.

All-American Rejects  (not emo) they sound too happy
Green Day  (punk ntot emo)
Weezer  (dont know about this one maybe)
Simple Plan (emo)
Good Charlotte (emo)
Death Cab For Cutie (never heard of them sounds emo though)
The Killers (not emo)
Franz Ferdinand (not emo)  that song "beautiful" hes high on a subway  hitting ona girl _not emo at all.
Linkin Park (maybe emo on some of their songs)
Modest Mouse(never heard of them)
Presidents of the United States of America (never heard of them either)
Nine Days (not emo)
Sum 41(again punk rock not emo)
Fall Out Boy (very emo)
Dashboard Confessional(dunno maybe)
Brand New(huh?)
Atreyu (good question I dont know what happend to them this year they came all different with different hair and stuff EMO)
Panic At The Disco(not emo but bad music)
The Bravery(emo)
The Walkmen(never heard of them)
The Postal Service(?)
Relient K(no not emo)
Blink 182( travis is emo but the rest of the band no)
Jimmy Eat World(no not emo )
Lit(no idea who these guys are)
Smash Mouth(does "All star" sound like a  emo song? NO NOT EMO)

All-American Rejects: NO
Green Day: NO
Weezer: NO
Simple Plan: FAVE, NO
Good Charlotte: YES!!!
Death Cab For Cutie: YES!!!
The Killers: NO
Franz Ferdinand: NO
Linkin Park: NO
Modest Mouse: NO
Presidents of the United States of America:
Nine Days: No
Sum 41: Haven't heard any of their stuff
Fall Out Boy: YES!!!!!!!
Dashboard Confessional: Haven't heard any... But Maybe
Brand New: Haven't heard any
Atreyu: Haven't heard any
Panic At The Disco: NO!!!
The Bravery: Haven't Heard Any
The Walkmen: Haven't Heard Any
The Postal Service: Haven't Heard Any
Relient K: Haven't Heard Any
Blink 182: No
Jimmy Eat World: No
Lit: Haven't Heard Any
Smash Mouth: No

NOT EMO:
Green Day
Weezer
Simple Plan
Good Charlotte
Death Cab For Cutie
The Killers
Franz Ferdinand
Linkin Park
Modest Mouse
Presidents of the United States of America
Nine Days
Sum 41
Relient K (very close to being emo because I hate this band)
Blink 182
Jimmy Eat World
Lit
Smash Mouth

EMO:
All-American Rejects
Fall Out Boy
Dashboard Confessional
Brand New
Atreyu
Panic At The Disco
The Bravery
The Postal Service (Barely)

Trust me, I know my emo.

Since I'm bored, and I've never done this before:


On this thread, I list a group of bands, and you decide if you think they're "emo" or "not emo".

All-American Rejects: Yes, especially with the vocals and lyrical nature. 
Green Day: No, although American Idiot may appeal to some Emo fans.
Weezer: While they're sort of a '90s band who later picked up some elements, no.
Simple Plan: Yes, a pop/punkified version.
Good Charlotte: From what I've heard, see above.
Death Cab For Cutie: Haven't heard 'em enough to know.
The Killers: No. More indie rock meets new wave revival.
Franz Ferdinand: Slightly. What the Killers may sound like with Emo elements.
Linkin Park: No, nu metal turned slightly '00s alternative.
Modest Mouse: Don't know enough.
Presidents of the United States of America: Wasn't "Lump" from 1994? ;D So, no.
Nine Days: pre-emo in a way, yes.
Sum 41: Sort of. More early '00s pop/punk
Fall Out Boy: YES!
Dashboard Confessional: YES!
Brand New: Don't know?
Atreyu: ?
Panic At The Disco: From what I know, they're more indie.
The Bravery: No, more like an alt rock-ified Killers
The Walkmen: ?
The Postal Service: Can't say fully, but they're more new wave revival. So maybe a little?
Relient K: ?
Blink 182: No, but part of the pop/punk late '90s wave that laid the groundwork for it.
Jimmy Eat World: Yes. While they're more varied than the average band of that nature, I think they were the first majorly popular Emo act. They're to Emo in 2002 what Bon Jovi was to hair metal in 1986/'87.
Lit: Nah, late '90s alternative pop/punk.
Smash Mouth: Not at all, more like surf-tinged late '90s alt pop

The most emo group of all is not even mentioned here (My Chemical Romance).

My Old list:

All-American Rejects...EMO
Green Day...NOT EMO
Weezer...NOT EMO
Simple Plan...EMO
Good Charlotte...EMO
Death Cab For Cutie...NOT EMO
The Killers...NOT EMO
Franz Ferdinand...NOT EMO
Linkin Park...NOT EMO
Modest Mouse...NOT EMO
Presidents of the United States of America...NOT EMO
Nine Days...NOT EMO
Sum 41...NOT EMO
Fall Out Boy...EMO
Dashboard Confessional...EMO
Brand New???
Atreyu???
Panic At The Disco...EMO
The Bravery???
The Walkmen???
The Postal Service...EMO
Relient K...EMO
Blink 182...NOT EMO
Jimmy Eat World...EMO
Lit???
Smash Mouth...NOT EMO

My new list:

All-American Rejects semi-emo, but not as much as I used to think, they're most pop/rock now.
Green Day not emo, but liked by emo fans
Weezer some emo-ish songs, but not a true emo band
Simple Plan semi-emo, more pop-punk really
Good Charlotte semi-emo, more pop punk
Death Cab For Cutie emo-ish indie rock
The Killers not emo, but can appaeal to emo fans
Franz Ferdinand not emo
Linkin Park c'mon lol
Modest Mouse not emo
Presidents of the United States of America not emo
Nine Days not emo, a/c soft rock
Sum 41 emo-ish punk
Fall Out Boy emo
Dashboard Confessional emo
Brand New who?
Atreyu I've read that they're "screamo", whatever that means.
Panic At The Disco emo
The Bravery not emo, they're basically the same exact thing the killers are
The Walkmen who?
The Postal Service emo-ish indie stuff
Relient K emo
Blink 182 emo-ish punk
Jimmy Eat World emo
Lit emo-ish punk
Smash Mouth no definitely no

My Old list:

All-American Rejects...EMO
Green Day...NOT EMO
Weezer...NOT EMO
Simple Plan...EMO
Good Charlotte...EMO
Death Cab For Cutie...NOT EMO
The Killers...NOT EMO
Franz Ferdinand...NOT EMO
Linkin Park...NOT EMO
Modest Mouse...NOT EMO
Presidents of the United States of America...NOT EMO
Nine Days...NOT EMO
Sum 41...NOT EMO
Fall Out Boy...EMO
Dashboard Confessional...EMO
Brand New???
Atreyu???
Panic At The Disco...EMO
The Bravery???
The Walkmen???
The Postal Service...EMO
Relient K...EMO
Blink 182...NOT EMO
Jimmy Eat World...EMO
Lit???
Smash Mouth...NOT EMO

My new list:

All-American Rejects semi-emo, but not as much as I used to think, they're most pop/rock now.
Green Day not emo, but liked by emo fans
Weezer some emo-ish songs, but not a true emo band
Simple Plan semi-emo, more pop-punk really
Good Charlotte semi-emo, more pop punk
Death Cab For Cutie emo-ish indie rock
The Killers not emo, but can appaeal to emo fans
Franz Ferdinand not emo
Linkin Park c'mon lol
Modest Mouse not emo
Presidents of the United States of America not emo
Nine Days not emo, a/c soft rock
Sum 41 emo-ish punk
Fall Out Boy emo
Dashboard Confessional emo
Brand New who?
Atreyu I've read that they're "screamo", whatever that means.
Panic At The Disco emo
The Bravery not emo, they're basically the same exact thing the killers are
The Walkmen who?
The Postal Service emo-ish indie stuff
Relient K emo
Blink 182 emo-ish punk
Jimmy Eat World emo
Lit emo-ish punk
Smash Mouth no definitely no


My list and your new one are pretty similar.

Overall, do you think pop/punk is emo? Alot of those bands seemed to sorta inspire it and share the same lyrical content. As well as sometimes whiny singing (which isn't necesarilly a knock on it since I like some of those bands).

I think the 1997-2003 wave of commercial, suburban pop/punk inspired the 2004+ emo craze, with, say Good Charlotte, Simple Plan and Jimmy Eat World being sorta both. Despite sharing some common ground, I think the former had to be there first for Emo to become big. Like, I couldn't see Fallout Boy coming out of nowhere in the late '90s and being that popular without Blink 182 and the like.

My list and your new one are pretty similar.

Overall, do you think pop/punk is emo? Alot of those bands seemed to sorta inspire it and share the same lyrical content. As well as sometimes whiny singing (which isn't necesarilly a knock on it since I like some of those bands).

I think the 1997-2003 wave of commercial, suburban pop/punk inspired the 2004+ emo craze, with, say Good Charlotte, Simple Plan and Jimmy Eat World being sorta both. Despite sharing some common ground, I think the former had to be there first for Emo to become big. Like, I couldn't see Fallout Boy coming out of nowhere in the late '90s and being that popular without Blink 182 and the like.


Yeah from what I've sampled of those various groups, I've come to the conclusion now that they're basically go along with emo, even though that label was not used then really, I think they fit in with it though they aren't the true emo that say My Chemical Romance is. They set the stage as early emo for today's emo.

Hahahaha! How did Modest Mouse even get on here? They're definitely NOT emo. Not... at all, actually. Not even close!

Even their more polished last album is too happy to be emo. :P