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Subject: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/02/03 at 05:37 p.m.

Here's a party game that may work here.  
This is from the introduction: Lateral thinking puzzles are designed as a form of game for a small group, where one person knows the answer and the others try to figure it out by asking questions.  The questions can only be answered by yes, no or irrelevant.  The puzzles in this way can also be used as a form of training because they test and encourage skills in questioning, imagination, inductive reasoning and later thinking.

This is the first question:
A man and his wife went on vacation.  Two months later, the man called the police to report the location of a body near the place where he had been on holiday.  The police thanked the man and then asked why it had taken him two months to report the body.  What was the reason?

Clues:
The man was not involved in any way in the death of the person whose body he had reported.
The man had not noticed the body earlier, but did later.

Answer:
The man saw the body in the background on one of his holiday photographs.  It was two months before the film was developed.

I'll post the question.  You may ask yes, no, or irrelevant questions.  If no one gets it quickly, I'll post clues.  If the game catches on, we'll play until somebody wins.


THE STRANGER IN THE BAR
Two men went out for a drink together in a bar.  One of them looked up, saw a tall, dark stranger looking like death and drinking soda water, and pointed him out to his companion.  Startled and uneasy, the two men left and went to another bar some miles away.  After a few minutes, they looked up and saw the same sad, pale stranger drinking soda water.  Deciding to leave, they went to a third bar, which was empty except for a young couple.  However, within a few minutes, the cadaverous man appeared and, in a slow, sad voice, ordered a soda water.  Almost out of his mind, one of the men went over to him and said, "Who are you and what do you want?"  Whad did the man answer?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 05:41 p.m.

Hmmm...was the cadaverous man a police officer?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/02/03 at 05:42 p.m.

He was a bar inspector?



Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/02/03 at 05:45 p.m.

Police officer - no
Bar inspector - no
Old acquaintance - no

Clue: The two men were drinking beer while the stranger was drinking soda.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 05:47 p.m.

Was this guy some kind of an old acquaintance who just aged really badly?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 06:00 p.m.

Did dead-looking guy exhaust his drink maximum in the other bars?  :D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Banasy on 02/02/03 at 06:02 p.m.

Was he their designated driver?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: dagwood on 02/02/03 at 06:10 p.m.

Was he the man they would hit while drinking and driving?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/02/03 at 06:15 p.m.

Banasy comes close enough to give her the point.
STRANGER IN THE BAR
He said, "I am the taxi driver who has been driving you from bar to bar!"

Tally
Banasy - 1


GERTRUDE
When Getrude entered the plane she caused her own death and the deaths of 200 people.  Yet she was never blamed or criticized for her actions.  What happened?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: shazzaah on 02/02/03 at 06:15 p.m.

The stranger was  a figment of the imagination?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 06:16 p.m.

Did she fall into the gas tank from the sky?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: shazzaah on 02/02/03 at 06:18 p.m.

Was Gertrude operating another aircraft?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Banasy on 02/02/03 at 06:20 p.m.

Was Gertrude a bird?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/02/03 at 06:20 p.m.

Well, that one didn't take long!
GERTRUDE
Gertrude, a goose, had been sucked into a jet engine.


Tally -
Banasy - 1
Rice Cube - 1


FEBRUARY 1866
What happened in February 1866 that will not happen again for another two and a half million years?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 06:30 p.m.

Is this a number-based question, like based on the year's number?  ???

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/02/03 at 06:31 p.m.

I think it has to do with Leap Day. I will say that Feb. 29 will fall on a Sunday.





Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 06:32 p.m.


Quoting:

FEBRUARY 1866
What happened in February 1866 that will not happen again for another two and a half million years?

End Quote



Does it have anything to do with temperatures?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/02/03 at 06:35 p.m.


Quoting:


Does it have anything to do with temperatures?
End Quote



No.

Quoting:Is this a number-based question, like based on the year's number?End Quote


No.

Quoting:I think it has to do with Leap Day. I will say that Feb. 29 will fall on a Sunday.End Quote


No.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 06:37 p.m.

Does it involve an animal of some kind?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/02/03 at 06:38 p.m.

Does it have to do with something astronomically-such as a comet, or a the position of the Earth?




Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: shazzaah on 02/02/03 at 06:38 p.m.

Was there a total eclipse, of the sun moon and earth? I guess that would be called a total eclipse.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/02/03 at 06:47 p.m.


Quoting:
Does it have to do with something astronomically-such as a comet, or a the position of the Earth?
End Quote


Yes

Quoting:Does it involve an animal of some kind? End Quote


No

Quoting:Was there a total eclipse, of the sun moon and earth? I guess that would be called a total eclipse. End Quote


No.

Clue: It was clearly visible to man but not of man's doing.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/02/03 at 06:50 p.m.

Was it a comet?




Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 06:50 p.m.

Geez...was there a meteor shower then?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/02/03 at 06:55 p.m.


Quoting:
Was it a comet?
End Quote


No.

Quoting:Geez...was there a meteor shower then? End Quote


No.

Clue: February 1866 lacked something that other months had.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/02/03 at 06:57 p.m.

Oh, I think I know. There was no full Moon that month.




Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 07:02 p.m.

What she said :) ^

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/02/03 at 07:03 p.m.

Wow.  Cat.  Wow.
FEBRUARY 1866
There was no full moon.  January and March of that year each had two full moons -- a most unusual occurence.

Tally -
Banasy - 1
Cat - 1
Rice Cube - 1

Last one for tonight.

THE CABBIE'S REVENGE
An American tourist in London took a taxi cab.  When he reached his destination, the tourist paid the taxi driver the fare, but did not include a tip.  The taxi driver was displeased and said something to the American that ruined his whole evening.  The two men were strangers and had never met previously.  What did the cabbie say?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/02/03 at 07:05 p.m.

"This isn't where you wanted to go." ?




Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 07:05 p.m.

Hmmm...was it something about his anatomy?  :P

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 07:09 p.m.

What about a quip about the stocks in America?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/02/03 at 07:18 p.m.

When a question is open, I'll post on the quarter hour until it's answered

Quoting:What about a quip about the stocks in America?
End Quote


No

Quoting:"This isn't where you wanted to go." ?End Quote


No

Quoting:Hmmm...was it something about his anatomy?  End Quote


No

Clue: The cabbie did not insult the American.  He did not make any personal or nationalistic comment.


Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 07:21 p.m.


Quoting:


THE CABBIE'S REVENGE
An American tourist in London took a taxi cab.  When he reached his destination, the tourist paid the taxi driver the fare, but did not include a tip.  The taxi driver was displeased and said something to the American that ruined his whole evening.  The two men were strangers and had never met previously.  What did the cabbie say?
End Quote



Hmmm...did he say something about how he wasn't going to be able to feed his kids?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 07:24 p.m.

Hmmm...did he say nothing?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/02/03 at 07:34 p.m.


Quoting:Hmmm...did he say something about how he wasn't going to be able to feed his kids?
End Quote


No

Quoting:Hmmm...did he say nothing? End Quote


No

Clue: The cabbie gave the American a piece of factual information which the American did not want to hear. (We cannot tell you exactly what the cabbie said because it might ruin an evening for you too!)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/02/03 at 07:36 p.m.

Something about the metric system?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/02/03 at 07:55 p.m.

This will be my last posting on this tonight.  The answer, unless you've already guessed it, will have to wait til tomorrow.

Quoting:
Something about the metric system?
End Quote


No.

Clue: The location to which the American was driven by the cabbie is important.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/02/03 at 08:29 p.m.

Did he say that he was the only driver to go there and he wouldn't be returning?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 06:08 a.m.

Quoting:
Did he say that he was the only driver to go there and he wouldn't be returning?
End Quote


No.

Hint: What type of information spoils things?  

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Thunderbolt on 02/03/03 at 06:17 a.m.

So was he at the wrong location?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/03/03 at 06:41 a.m.

haha

He told him what happened at the end of the movie that he'd just driven the man to!

Tao

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 07:06 a.m.


Quoting:
haha

He told him what happened at the end of the movie that he'd just driven the man to!

Tao
End Quote


Bingo!  Taoist will have his point tallied when I get home from work!

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 03:40 p.m.

THE CABBIE'S REVENGE
The American was going to a performance of the famous Agatha Christie play The Mousetrap.  The taxi dropped him outside the theater.  The spiteful taxi-driver said "X did it," where X was the name of the murderer in the play.  (We cannot state here X's name or we might ruin your future enjoyment of the play!)

Tally -
Banasy - 1
Cat - 1
Rice Cube - 1
Taoist - 1

WHERE IN THE WORLD
In what place would you find Julius Caesar, the biblical Rachel, King David, Pallas Athena (the Goddess of War), King Charlemagne, Alexander the Great, Queen Elizabeth I of England and Sir Lancelot all together?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: SamRice Gamgee on 02/03/03 at 03:43 p.m.

Are they in statue form?

Are they in a museum?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/03/03 at 03:45 p.m.

Hi Steve

I'll guess...

In a library/bookshop

Tao

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: SamRice Gamgee on 02/03/03 at 03:48 p.m.

Oh dammit.  That makes all kinds of sense now :P


Quoting:
Hi Steve

I'll guess...

In a library/bookshop

Tao
End Quote

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 03:53 p.m.


Quoting:
In a library/bookshop
End Quote


No

Quoting:Are they in statue form?End Quote


No

Quoting:Are they in a museum? End Quote


No

Clue: Their images are found together in one common place.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/03/03 at 03:56 p.m.


Quoting:

WHERE IN THE WORLD
In what place would you find Julius Caesar, the biblical Rachel, King David, Pallas Athena (the Goddess of War), King Charlemagne, Alexander the Great, Queen Elizabeth I of England and Sir Lancelot all together?


End Quote



Is this a food question?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/03/03 at 04:04 p.m.

Are these images only in the US?
Are they specific to any single nation?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 04:07 p.m.


Quoting:
Are these images only in the US?End Quote


No

Quoting:Are they specific to any single nation?
End Quote


No

Quoting:Is this a food question?End Quote


No

Clue: They are found on something which is in common use and has been for many years.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/03/03 at 04:10 p.m.

I'll guess again... (although I must admit to not being overly confident  ???)

Currency - ie pictures on coins?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 04:19 p.m.


Quoting:Currency - ie pictures on coins?
End Quote


No

Clue: They are used in the form of a game.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/03/03 at 04:21 p.m.

Hmm... It would make a pretty wierd combination for a chess set.
How about Tarot cards?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 04:27 p.m.

Did someone say... CARDS!!!  Close enough!
WHERE IN THE WORLD?
On a pack of playing cards.  The original designs for the Kings, Queens and Jacks are based on these characters.

Tally -
Taoist - 2
Banasy - 1
Cat - 1
Rice Cube - 1

I'll post the next question now, but I'm not going to respond or shoot out clues for a few hours...
SCOUT'S HONOR
A boy scout was anxious to win maximum points at his monthly inspection.  However, despite his mother's best efforts, she could not remove some blue felt-tip marker stains from his hands.  What did she do?


Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/03/03 at 04:27 p.m.

aha!

A normal deck of playing cards

Julius Caesar - King of Diamonds
Rachel - Queen of Spades
King David - King of Spades
Alexander - King of Clubs
Sir Lancelot - Jack of Clubs

I can't place the other 3 (Pallas Athena, Queen Elizabeth,
Charlemagne) , I guess you have a different source.

Good question!

<modified>
aah, you just beat me to it!

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: dagwood on 02/03/03 at 05:06 p.m.

Did she use fingernail polish?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/03/03 at 05:40 p.m.

did she put gloves on him?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/03/03 at 05:40 p.m.


Quoting:
SCOUT'S HONOR
A boy scout was anxious to win maximum points at his monthly inspection.  However, despite his mother's best efforts, she could not remove some blue felt-tip marker stains from his hands.  What did she do?

End Quote



Can she paint his hands flesh-colored?  :P

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 05:41 p.m.


Quoting:
Did she use fingernail polish?
End Quote


No

Clue: She sent him to the inspection with the marks still on his hands.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/03/03 at 05:57 p.m.


Quoting:

No

Clue: She sent him to the inspection with the marks still on his hands.

End Quote



Okay, so could she:

A) paint his hands flesh colored

B) draw stuff on his hands such that the blue marks would seem like part of a design?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 06:05 p.m.


Quoting:
Can she paint his hands flesh-colored?  :P
End Quote


No

Quoting:did she put gloves on him? End Quote


No

Quoting:A) paint his hands flesh colored

B) draw stuff on his hands such that the blue marks would seem like part of a design? End Quote


No, no

Clue: She ensured that the marks would not be seen.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/03/03 at 06:12 p.m.

She gave him something to hold so his hands wouldn't be seen. Or she told him to keep his hands in his pockets.




Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Banasy on 02/03/03 at 06:33 p.m.

Told him to stand at attention with his hands clasped behind his back.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 06:40 p.m.


Quoting:
She gave him something to hold so his hands wouldn't be seen. Or she told him to keep his hands in his pockets.
End Quote


No


Quoting:Told him to stand at attention with his hands clasped behind his back. End Quote


No.

You may be stuck on the answer.  Or, the answer may be stuck on you.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: shazzaah on 02/03/03 at 06:42 p.m.

bandaids? ;D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 06:49 p.m.

Sneaking in... under the wire... Shazzaah!
SCOUT'S HONOR
She covered the stains with a bandage strip. Nobody would remove it to check whether he had a cut.

Tally -
Taoist - 2
Banasy - 1
Cat - 1
Rice Cube - 1
Shazzaah - 1

Last one for today.  

PRICE TAG
Many shops have prices set just under a round figure, e.g., $9.99 instead of $10 or $99.95 instead of $100.  It is assumed  that this is done because the price seems lower to the consumer.  But this is not the reason the practice started.  What was the original reason for this pricing method?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Banasy on 02/03/03 at 06:53 p.m.

Because the relly old cash registers didn't have a zero?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 07:05 p.m.


Quoting:
Because the relly old cash registers didn't have a zero?
End Quote


No

Clue: A price set at 5 cents, or even 1 cent, under a round dollar amount means that a customer would be entitled to change from a bill.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Banasy on 02/03/03 at 07:13 p.m.

Because there was no state tax and the US wanted to cut down on the amount of metal coins that were be circulated because of wartime?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 07:21 p.m.


Quoting:
Because there was no state tax and the US wanted to cut down on the amount of metal coins that were be circulated because of wartime?
End Quote


No

Clue: Smart shopkeepers were trying to protect themselves from losses.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/03/03 at 08:00 p.m.

Because they wanted to only give back $1s and $5s but not $100s?  :P

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/03/03 at 08:27 p.m.

It was easier to tell the difference between coins than bills when making change?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 08:35 p.m.


Quoting:
It was easier to tell the difference between coins than bills when making change?
End Quote


No

Quoting:Because they wanted to only give back $1s and $5s but not $100s?  End Quote



I trust someone will get this right.  Trust is a wonderful thing, isn't it?  :)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/03/03 at 08:37 p.m.

Because it's a way to beat the competition without losing too much profit?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 08:49 p.m.


Quoting:
Because it's a way to beat the competition without losing too much profit?
End Quote


No

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: shazzaah on 02/03/03 at 08:50 p.m.

It breaks up the bills from even 10's 20s' etc, and therefore reducing the chances of conterfeit money?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 08:52 p.m.


Quoting:
It breaks up the bills from even 10's 20s' etc, and therefore reducing the chances of conterfeit money?
End Quote


No

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/03/03 at 08:55 p.m.

I could use another clue right about now...

It was to prevent employees from stealing round numbers of money?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/03/03 at 08:59 p.m.

it's not as easy to change the price tag to a different number?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/03/03 at 09:02 p.m.

Yes!!!!  Earl comes through!!!
The practice originated to ensure that the clerk had to open the till and give change for each transaction, thus recording the sale and preventing him from pocketing the bills.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 2
Taoist - 2
Banasy - 1
Cat - 1
Shazzaah - 1

Just the question as I head off to bed.  You guys are good enough to solve it without clues or hints.

BUTTONS
There is a reason why men's clothes have buttons on the right while women's have buttons on the left.  What is it?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/03/03 at 09:03 p.m.

Handedness?  Like, males prefer using one hand while females prefer the other?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: shazzaah on 02/03/03 at 09:04 p.m.

Because women and men usually wear watches on the opposite arms, and if the shirts are made this way the watches won't catch on the shirt?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/03/03 at 09:27 p.m.

to make it easier to dress/undress the opposite sex?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/04/03 at 02:19 a.m.

Hi Steve

I think 80s cheerleader was close.
It's because women dressed themselves but men would be dressed by a valet.

Tao

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 06:09 a.m.

Someone has answered this one correctly, except...

I met her in a club down in north Soho...

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/04/03 at 06:12 a.m.

Quoting:
Someone has answered this one correctly, except...

I met her in a club down in north Soho...
End Quote


hmm... I assume you're referring to...
Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls.

So I got it the wrong way round?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/04/03 at 06:15 a.m.

to tell men from women? so you would know whom you're undressing?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 06:15 a.m.

Let's just say the question is still open, ripe and ready for plucking  :D

Modified to add:  I'll cut out the cute and give it to Taoist.  My source says women were the one's who were dressed by their maids, but my source is the Lateral Thinking quiz book.  If you disagree on specifics, you have the gist correct.  
Well done, Taoist.  I'll record the score when I get home.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 04:03 p.m.

BUTTONS
Most people are right-handed and find it easier to fasten a button which is on the right through a hole which is on the left.  This is why men's buttons are on the right.  When buttons were first used it was the better-off who could afford clothes with buttons.  Among this class the ladies were often dressed by maid-servants.  The servant would face the lady and so it was easier for right-handed servants to fasten buttons which were on the lady's left.

Tally -
Taoist - 3
Rice Cube - 2
Banasy - 1
Cat - 1
Shazzaah - 1

Here's an easy one.  http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/cool/cool014.gif
INSPIRED COMPOSITION
A composer of music sat looking out of a window, hoping for inspiration.  Suddenly something he saw provided him with the opening theme for a new work.  What did he see?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: shazzaah on 02/04/03 at 05:18 p.m.

His reflection?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 05:23 p.m.


Quoting:
His reflection?
End Quote


 No

Clue: He saw something which made no sound but which suggested a tune.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/04/03 at 05:30 p.m.

a constellation? using the placement of stars as notes?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 05:36 p.m.


Quoting:
a constellation? using the placement of stars as notes?
End Quote


No.

You may, of course, ask a yes-no-irrelevant question to narrow this one down a bit...

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/04/03 at 05:39 p.m.

Was it daytime?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 05:50 p.m.


Quoting:
Was it daytime?
End Quote


Yes.

Clue: He saw some creatures at rest.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/04/03 at 06:03 p.m.

He saw birds sitting on the telephone wires (which looked like a musical staff).



Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 06:14 p.m.

Wow!!!  Cat gets the point!
INSPIRED COMPOSITION
He saw some blackbirds sitting on telegraph wires.  Their positions suggested a melody line.

Tally -
Taoist - 3
Cat - 2
Rice Cube - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1

LARGE NUMBER
Assume there are approximately 5,000,000,000 (5 billion) people on earth.  What would you estimate to be the result, if you multiply together the number of fingers on every person's left hands? (For the purposes of this exercise, thumbs count as fingers, for five fingers per hand.)  If you cannot estimate the number, then try to guess how long the number would be.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/04/03 at 06:27 p.m.


Quoting:

LARGE NUMBER
Assume there are approximately 5,000,000,000 (5 billion) people on earth.  What would you estimate to be the result, if you multiply together the number of fingers on every person's left hands? (For the purposes of this exercise, thumbs count as fingers, for five fingers per hand.)  If you cannot estimate the number, then try to guess how long the number would be.


End Quote





That will be 5 billion X 10 so you would just add a zero at the end so it will be 50,000,000,000.



Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 06:32 p.m.


Quoting:
That will be 5 billion X 10 so you would just add a zero at the end so it will be 50,000,000,000.
End Quote


No

Clue: The answer can be quickly and accurately deduced.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/04/03 at 06:37 p.m.

No wait, that was dumb..


5^(5 billion)  where ^ is the exponent.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/04/03 at 06:37 p.m.

Ok, so I misread the question and I was doing it for BOTH hands-not just the left. So that would be 5 billion X 5. So it will be 25,000,000,000.



Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 07:06 p.m.


Quoting:
No wait, that was dumb..


5^(5 billion)  where ^ is the exponent.
End Quote


No

Quoting:Ok, so I misread the question and I was doing it for BOTH hands-not just the left. So that would be 5 billion X 5. So it will be 25,000,000,000.
End Quote


No

Clue: Think about the effect of actually multiplying the number of fingers on the left hands of all the people in the world, one after the other

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/04/03 at 07:08 p.m.

One.

You're an idiot ;)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 07:11 p.m.


Quoting:
One.End Quote


No, but you're on the right track

Quoting:
You're an idiot ;)
End Quote


Yes, but irrelevant  ;D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/04/03 at 07:12 p.m.

How about 5?



Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/04/03 at 07:15 p.m.

Uh...25?  

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 07:31 p.m.


Quoting:
Uh...25?  
End Quote


No

Quoting:How about 5?
End Quote


No

Clue: The calculation might start 5 x 5 x 5 x 5 x 5 x 5 x 4 x 5 x 5 x 5 x 5 x... and so on.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/04/03 at 07:33 p.m.


Quoting:

Clue: The calculation might start 5 x 5 x 5 x 5 x 5 x 5 x 4 x 5 x 5 x 5 x 5 x... and so on.
End Quote


But I just said 5^5000000000, which means 5 multiplied by itself 5 billion times...isn't that right?  ???

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/04/03 at 07:35 p.m.

2500000000000000000 (5000000000 x 50000000000)?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 07:37 p.m.

I cried because I had no gloves, until I met a man who had no... sorry.  I digress.  It's nothing.  Carry on.   :)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/04/03 at 07:40 p.m.


Quoting:
Wow!!!  Cat gets the point!
LARGE NUMBER
Assume there are approximately 5,000,000,000 (5 billion) people on earth.  What would you estimate to be the result, if you multiply together the number of fingers on every person's left hands? (For the purposes of this exercise, thumbs count as fingers, for five fingers per hand.)  If you cannot estimate the number, then try to guess how long the number would be.


End Quote



What the hell!  Are you going to assume we know how many people are normal, how many are amputees and how many have polydactyly?  GRAAAAAH!!!

Why isn't it 5^5 billion?  ???

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 07:43 p.m.

Earl, you are going to kick yourself so hard if you don't get this one... there'll be nothing like it...

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/04/03 at 07:45 p.m.

zero?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/04/03 at 07:49 p.m.

Explanation please?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 07:52 p.m.


Quoting:
zero?
End Quote



YEESSS!!!   ;D ;D ;D
LARGE NUMBER
The product of the numbers of fingers on the left hands of every person is zero.  It only takes one person to have no fingers on their left hand for the product to be zero, because anything multiplied by zero is zero.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 3
Taoist - 3
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1

Last one.  Clues and such tomorrow.
THE SINGLE FLOWER
A woman was shown into a large room which contained over a thousand flowers.  She was told that all but one of the flowers were artificial.  She had to identify the real flower, but she could not examine the flowers closely nor smell them.  She was alone in the room.  What did she do to identify the single flower?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/04/03 at 07:55 p.m.


Quoting:


YEESSS!!!   ;D ;D ;D
LARGE NUMBER
The product of the numbers of fingers on the left hands of every person is zero.  It only takes one person to have no fingers on their left hand for the product to be zero, because anything multiplied by zero is zero.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 3
Taoist - 3
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
End Quote


Lame!  Lame lame lame lame lame!

Quoting:

Last one.  Clues and such tomorrow.
THE SINGLE FLOWER
A woman was shown into a large room which contained over a thousand flowers.  She was told that all but one of the flowers were artificial.  She had to identify the real flower, but she could not examine the flowers closely nor smell them.  She was alone in the room.  What did she do to identify the single flower?

End Quote



Did she use a magnet?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/04/03 at 07:55 p.m.

Oh wait!  Can she shine a flashlight and see if the flowers turn towards the light, then she can identify the one fake one because it doesn't turn?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: shazzaah on 02/04/03 at 08:59 p.m.

She looked for the soil, or the water keeping it from wilting?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/04/03 at 09:17 p.m.

did she look for bugs?  ie. a bee buzzing around it?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/04/03 at 09:41 p.m.

80s cheerleader!

THE SINGLE FLOWER
She opened the window and a bee flew into the room.  It settled on the one true flower

Tally -
Rice Cube - 3
Taoist - 3
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1

I'll sneak one in for the American night owls and Taoist.
THE CHAMPION'S BLIND SPOT
At the dinner to celebrate the end of the Wimbledon tennis championship, the men's singles winner turned to the man next to him and said, "There is something here which you can see and all the other men can see but which I cannot see."  What was it?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/04/03 at 09:42 p.m.

His own smile?  ???

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/05/03 at 03:42 a.m.

Quoting:
I'll sneak one in for the American night owls and Taoist.
End Quote


Sorry, I've had no connection all night due to NTL  >:(

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: karen (Guest) on 02/05/03 at 03:57 a.m.

May be Rice is right.

I was going to say his face.  Same thing but different

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/05/03 at 03:15 p.m.


Quoting:
His own smile?  ???
End Quote


No

Quoting:I was going to say his face.  End Quote


No

Clue: The winner had perfect eyesight and could see as well as any other person there but, nonetheless, they could see something he could not see.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/05/03 at 04:58 p.m.

The utter humiliation of his vanquished foe?  :P

Just kidding...

But really, was it an emotion?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: dagwood on 02/05/03 at 05:25 p.m.

his eyes?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/05/03 at 05:28 p.m.

something on the back of his shirt?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/05/03 at 05:32 p.m.


Quoting:

THE CHAMPION'S BLIND SPOT
At the dinner to celebrate the end of the Wimbledon tennis championship, the men's singles winner turned to the man next to him and said, "There is something here which you can see and all the other men can see but which I cannot see."  What was it?

End Quote



The women's locker room?  ;D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: princessofpop on 02/05/03 at 08:21 p.m.

Did he have food stuck in his teeth?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/05/03 at 10:31 p.m.

Quoting:
The utter humiliation of his vanquished foe?  :P Just kidding...
End Quote


Since you're just kidding, I won't say you're on the right track

Quoting:
But really, was it an emotion?
End Quote


Irrelevant

Quoting:
his eyes?
End Quote


No

Quoting:something on the back of his shirt? End Quote


No

Quoting:Did he have food stuck in his teeth? End Quote


No

Clue: He could not see something relative to him which others could see relative to them.





Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/05/03 at 10:34 p.m.

He couldn't "see" his own sister?  ::)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/05/03 at 11:08 p.m.


Quoting:
He couldn't "see" his own sister?  ::)
End Quote



No

Clue: If the winner had lost a game, then he could not make this claim.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/05/03 at 11:11 p.m.

He couldn't see a zero on the scoreboard?  ???

Is this based at all on the scoreboard, or the tennis scoring system?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/05/03 at 11:42 p.m.

Hmmm...so wait, did he not see the force of his opponent's returns?  Since he won all the games...he wouldn't have had to see too many good returns... ???

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/05/03 at 11:49 p.m.

OH!!!  He couldn't see defeat!

::)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 02:07 a.m.

Point to Earl!
THE CHAMPION'S BLIND SPOT
Every other competitor could see someone who had beaten them.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 4
Taoist - 3
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1

Here's one for literal thinkers...

There were eight ears of corn in a hollow stump.  A squirrel can carry out three ears a day.  How many days does it take the squirrel to take all the ears of corn from the stump?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/06/03 at 06:12 a.m.

3?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 07:02 a.m.


Quoting:
3?
End Quote


No   :)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/06/03 at 07:04 a.m.

8!

1 ear of corn and 2 ears attached to his head per day
(Assuming he didn't lose an ear in a fight with a vicious penguin)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/06/03 at 07:04 a.m.

2 2/3?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 08:29 a.m.

Taoist, back on line and flying heavy!  His answer is the answer.  Tally will be updated when I get home from work.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 04:40 p.m.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 4
Taoist - 4
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1

A RIDDLE

Four men sat down to play.  
They played all night till break of day.
They played for gold and not for fun,
With separate scores for everyone.
When they came to square accounts
They all made quite fair amounts.
Can you this paradox explain?
If no one lost, how could all gain?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/06/03 at 04:42 p.m.


Quoting:

A RIDDLE

Four men sat down to play.  
They played all night till break of day.
They played for gold and not for fun,
With separate scores for everyone.
When they came to square accounts
They all made quite fair amounts.
Can you this paradox explain?
If no one lost, how could all gain?
End Quote



I've read this one before...just recently actually, it's a MindTrap question.  So I guess I should disqualify myself from this one.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 04:48 p.m.


Quoting:
I've read this one before...just recently actually, it's a MindTrap question.  So I guess I should disqualify myself from this one.
End Quote



Honorable decision, Earl.  Feel free to throw out a clue if the rest of the field gets stuck...

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/06/03 at 04:53 p.m.


Quoting:


Honorable decision, Earl.  Feel free to throw out a clue if the rest of the field gets stuck...
End Quote



You're the clue master ;)  But I did note that the answer will seem obvious when it comes out ;) ::)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 04:56 p.m.


Quoting:


You're the clue master ;)  But I did note that the answer will seem obvious when it comes out ;) ::)
End Quote



Good to see we're in tune with each other on that score...

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/06/03 at 04:57 p.m.


Quoting:


Good to see we're in tune with each other on that score...
End Quote



Oh, it's killing me!  Please oh please can I just answer it?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 05:00 p.m.


Quoting:


Oh, it's killing me!  Please oh please can I just answer it?
End Quote



You may if you wish, but if you do I'll deduct one point from your score.  ;D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/06/03 at 05:01 p.m.


Quoting:


You may if you wish, but if you do I'll deduct one point from your score.  ;D
End Quote



You tyrannical b@st@rd ;D
What if I conducted a sales pitch to you?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 05:06 p.m.

Just as long as you aren't wearing a Speedo... pitch away
http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/cool/cool031.gif

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/06/03 at 05:08 p.m.

NO SPEEDOS PLEASE!!!

okay, are they playing gold-mine?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/06/03 at 05:08 p.m.

The four men were musicians in a band ;)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 05:13 p.m.

Earl!  Man, I so should take a point away, and I can be talked into it... but, anyhow
A RIDDLE
For the music they played
Each band member was paid

Tally -
Rice Cube - 4
Taoist - 4
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1

BAD IMPRESSION
A man entered a city art gallery and did terrible damage to some very valuable Impressionist paintings.  Later that day, instead of being arrested, he was thanked by the curator of the art gallery for his actions.  How come?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/06/03 at 05:20 p.m.

I'm guessing that the man's a firefighter, who came into the (burning) gallery and sprayed water over the paintings.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 05:26 p.m.

Point Tangle!

He was a firefighter who, in the course of putting out a fire, sprayed the room and paintings with water.  He had indeed damaged the paintings, but saved them and others from complete destruction.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 4
Taoist - 4
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
Tangle - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1

THE ANIMAL
At the Carlton Club, Alan Quartermaine was telling one of his stories.  "When the animal emerged from the lake I could see that its four knees were wet," he said.  Marmaduke, who had walked into the room at that very point, then interrupted, "I know what kind of an animal that was."  How did he know and what kind of animal was it?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/06/03 at 05:28 p.m.

Quoting:


THE ANIMAL
At the Carlton Club, Alan Quartermaine was telling one of his stories.  "When the animal emerged from the lake I could see that its four knees were wet," he said.  Marmaduke, who had walked into the room at that very point, then interrupted, "I know what kind of an animal that was."  How did he know and what kind of animal was it?


End Quote



An elephant.  Elephants are the only animals with four knees.

Sorry about the question before, I couldn't resist :D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 05:35 p.m.

Earl!
THE ANIMAL
Marmaduke knew that the only animal with four knees is the elephant

Tally -
Rice Cube - 5
Taoist - 4
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
Tangle - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1

Last one for a while tonight.
UNSPOKEN UNDERSTANDING
A deaf-and-dumb man went into a subway.  He walked up to the cashier's booth and gave the cashier a dollar.  The subway tokens cost 40 cents each.  The cashier gave the man two tokens.  Not a word was said, nor any sign given.  How did the cashier know that the man indeed wanted two tokens?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/06/03 at 05:38 p.m.

Because the man needed to round-trip?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/06/03 at 05:39 p.m.

Because the man was with a friend?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/06/03 at 05:40 p.m.

Because the man was very very fat ;D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 05:51 p.m.


Quoting:
Because the man needed to round-trip?
End Quote


No


Quoting:Because the man was with a friend? End Quote


No

Quoting:Because the man was very very fat End Quote


No

Clue: The man did want two tokens, and the cashier was able to correctly deduce this.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/06/03 at 05:52 p.m.

For him and his hearing-ear dog?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/06/03 at 06:01 p.m.

He gave him a slip of paper that said 2 tokens?

BTW, Giraffes have 4 knees too, the back ones just bend backwards ;D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/06/03 at 06:03 p.m.


Quoting:
BTW, Giraffes have 4 knees too, the back ones just bend backwards ;D
End Quote



Those aren't the knees ;)  Those are the heels...if you look closely, giraffes, like horses, walk on their toes...

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/06/03 at 06:05 p.m.


Quoting:
For him and his hearing-ear dog?
End Quote


No

Quoting:He gave him a slip of paper that said 2 tokens?End Quote


No

Clue: Nothing was written or signed.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/06/03 at 06:05 p.m.

The guy takes a big handful of change from his pocket, including exactly 40 cents. However, he ends up passing a dollar across.

Or possibly (and more simply) the dollar is in the form of 2 50-cent pieces, assuming you have those in the States.

(Conceding that the dog is probably right, but clutching at straws)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 03:30 a.m.

Tangle!
UNSPOKEN UNDERSTANDING
He gives the cashier four quarters, from which the cashier correctly deduces that the man wants two 40-cent tokens.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 5
Taoist - 4
Cat - 2
Tangle - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1

ESCAPE
A man was trapped on an island in the middle of a large and deep lake.  He could not swim and had no boat or means of making one.  He waited deperately for help, but none came.  Eventually he managed to escape.  How?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: karen (Guest) on 02/07/03 at 03:47 a.m.

Was it in Africa and he waited for the water to dry up in the heat?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/07/03 at 04:04 a.m.

Was it a salt lake? - ie he simply walked

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 04:21 a.m.


Quoting:
Was it in Africa and he waited for the water to dry up in the heat?
End Quote


No

Quoting:Was it a salt lake? - ie he simply walked End Quote


No

Clue: He did not attract or receive help in the form of a boat or a plane.  He crossed the lake under his own power.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/07/03 at 04:57 a.m.

Q: Did he recieve help of any kind from someone else?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 06:39 a.m.


Quoting:
Q: Did he recieve help of any kind from someone else?
End Quote


No.  But he was lucky he had shelter.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/07/03 at 06:47 a.m.

did he use the shelter as a raft?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 06:51 a.m.


Quoting:
did he use the shelter as a raft?
End Quote



No.  I'm from Minnesota and I got the answer right away  :D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: princessofpop on 02/07/03 at 06:53 a.m.

He waited for the lake to freeze & walked across the ice?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 07:19 a.m.


Quoting:
He waited for the lake to freeze & walked across the ice?
End Quote



Correct!   Tallying will be done when I get home from work.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 03:27 p.m.

ESCAPE
He walked over the frozen lake.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 5
Taoist - 4
Cat - 2
Tangle - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
PrincessOfPop - 1

HIS WIDOW'S SISTER
It was reported in the paper that Jim Jones had married his widow's sister.  How did he do this?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/07/03 at 03:28 p.m.

You want to know how he married the widow's sister, or how he advertised it in the paper?  ???

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: princessofpop on 02/07/03 at 03:32 p.m.

Isn't Jim dead if he has a widow?  

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/07/03 at 03:33 p.m.


Quoting:
Isn't Jim dead if he has a widow?  
End Quote



Yeah, that too.  :P

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/07/03 at 03:33 p.m.

'had' being past tense....
Jim was a bigamist, a fact discovered after his death

or

Jim was a Priest

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 03:42 p.m.


Quoting:
You want to know how he married the widow's sister, or how he advertised it in the paper?  ???
End Quote


Yes

Quoting:Isn't Jim dead if he has a widow?   End Quote


Yes

Quoting:
Jim was a bigamist, a fact discovered after his death
or
Jim was a Priest End Quote


No - no

Clue: When Jim Jones died, his wife became a widow.


Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/07/03 at 03:43 p.m.

The newspaper was dated, and Jim had married his wife's sister in secret before she found out and murdered him?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/07/03 at 03:43 p.m.

Jim married his wife's sister before his death!

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 03:49 p.m.


Quoting:
Jim married his wife's sister before his death!

End Quote



Explain.  Tentative yes...

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: princessofpop on 02/07/03 at 03:50 p.m.

Was Jim married to the reporters sister in law?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/07/03 at 03:50 p.m.

Were the sisters twins, so that Jim married the wrong twin?  :D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/07/03 at 03:51 p.m.

Jim married his wife's sister, either as a bigamist, or as the priest presiding over the ceremony.
Then he died.
The statement 'Jim married his wife's sister' being true after the event of his death!

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 03:55 p.m.


Quoting:
Was Jim married to the reporters sister in law?
End Quote


No

Quoting:Were the sisters twins, so that Jim married the wrong twin? End Quote


No

Quoting:Jim married his wife's sister, either as a bigamist, or as the priest presiding over the ceremony.
Then he died.
End Quote


No

Clue: No bigamy is involved, and no life after death.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/07/03 at 03:58 p.m.

Married widow's sister... bah... :P

Um...He married the sister first, divorced her, then married the widow, before he died.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/07/03 at 03:59 p.m.

He was married to the sister, got divorced, then married his widow?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 04:04 p.m.


Quoting:
Married widow's sister... bah... :P

Um...He married the sister first, divorced her, then married the widow, before he died.
End Quote



CLOSE ENOUGH!  Nice lateral thinking, Earl.
HIS WIDOW'S SISTER
Jim Jones married Ella in 1820.  She died in 1830.  In 1840 he married Ella's sister, Mary.  She became his widow when he died in 1850.  So in 1820 he had married his widow's sister.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 6
Taoist - 4
Cat - 2
Tangle - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
PrincessOfPop - 1

LIGHT YEARS AHEAD
If you could travel faster than the speed of light, then you could catch up with the light which radiated from your body some time ago.  You would then be able to see yourself as you used to be when you were younger.  Although faster-than-light travel is impossible, at least at this time, how can we catch up with the light that we radiated earlier and see ourselves directly--as we used to be? (Such captured images as photographs, movies and videotape do not count.)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/07/03 at 04:06 p.m.

Look into a mirror!

The further away the mirror, the older the image is!
e.g. If the mirror was 1 lightyear (9460419744600 km) away, you would see yourself as you were 2 years ago

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/07/03 at 04:07 p.m.


Quoting:
LIGHT YEARS AHEAD
If you could travel faster than the speed of light, then you could catch up with the light which radiated from your body some time ago.  You would then be able to see yourself as you used to be when you were younger.  Although faster-than-light travel is impossible, at least at this time, how can we catch up with the light that we radiated earlier and see ourselves directly--as we used to be? (Such captured images as photographs, movies and videotape do not count.)

End Quote



Wow, this is complex...

How about running backwards as your spaceship is going the other way?  :)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/07/03 at 04:09 p.m.

call the Raelians to clone you?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 04:11 p.m.


Quoting:
Look into a mirror!
End Quote


Yes!  (What took you so long to answer?)
LIGHT YEARS AHEAD
Yes-- if you look in a mirror than you see light which left your body a finite time ago and has been reflected to reach your eyes.  You see yourself as you were -- not as you are!

Tally -
Rice Cube - 6
Taoist - 5
Cat - 2
Tangle - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
PrincessOfPop - 1

Last one for the next couple of hours.  
THE NEWSPAPER
Jim and Joe were fighting, so their mother punished them by making them both stand on the same sheet of yesterday's newspaper until they were ready to make up.  She did this in such a way that neither of the boys could touch the other.  How did she manage to do this?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 02/07/03 at 04:13 p.m.

she put the newspaper in a doorway and closed the door so each boy was on a different side of the door.  My mom actually did this to my brothers!

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/07/03 at 04:13 p.m.


Quoting:

Last one for the next couple of hours.  
THE NEWSPAPER
Jim and Joe were fighting, so their mother punished them by making them both stand on the same sheet of yesterday's newspaper until they were ready to make up.  She did this in such a way that neither of the boys could touch the other.  How did she manage to do this?


End Quote



Did she cut the newspaper at all?

If so she can either have them stand on separate pieces of the same paper, or just make a wall with the newspaper or something :P

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/07/03 at 04:14 p.m.


Quoting:
she put the newspaper in a doorway and closed the door so each boy was on a different side of the door.  My mom actually did this to my brothers!
End Quote



Blast!  I thought of that just as I posted my other answer ;)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/07/03 at 04:14 p.m.

Quoting:
What took you so long to answerEnd Quote


It took me 2 minutes!
And that was because my NTL broadband is more narrow than Kate moss at the moment  ::)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 04:15 p.m.


Quoting:
she put the newspaper in a doorway and closed the door so each boy was on a different side of the door.  My mom actually did this to my brothers!
End Quote



A big thumbs up on this one, 80s!  I'll post the tally in a couple of hours.  :D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 08:42 p.m.

THE NEWSPAPER
She slid the sheet of newspaper under a door.  The boys stood on either side of the door but on the same piece of paper.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 6
Taoist - 5
Cat - 2
Tangle - 2
80s Cheerleader - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
PrincessOfPop - 1

LIGHT WORK
There are 3 light switches outside a room.  They are connected to three light bulbs inside the room.  Each switch can be set in the on position or the off position.  Your are allowed to set the switches and then to enter the room once.  You then have to determine which switch is connected to which bulb.  How do you do it?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/07/03 at 08:45 p.m.


Quoting:
LIGHT WORK
There are 3 light switches outside a room.  They are connected to three light bulbs inside the room.  Each switch can be set in the on position or the off position.  Your are allowed to set the switches and then to enter the room once.  You then have to determine which switch is connected to which bulb.  How do you do it?

End Quote



Can he see inside the room while setting the switches?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 09:01 p.m.


Quoting:


Can he see inside the room while setting the switches?
End Quote



No

Clue: With just two bulbs and two switches it would be easy.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/07/03 at 09:07 p.m.

Okay...so it's a math-type problem...

If he flips on all the switches BEFORE entering the room, then goes into the room and unscrews one of the lightbulbs to leave two (without shocking himself) then flips the switches around to determine the sequence of lights because he can peek in the door but NOT enter it...then that'll solve the problem.  But it feels like cheating.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/07/03 at 09:10 p.m.

It is cheating.

Clue.  Light bulbs give off light.  What else do they do when they're on?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/07/03 at 09:11 p.m.

They give off heat.  So could he rig the switches to register heat?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: BabyeyesJ on 02/08/03 at 03:47 a.m.

He turns 2 of the switches on and leaves one on longer than the other then goes in the room and feels the bulbs to see which is the hotter one of them then he can determine which switch goes to which bulb. The one switch thats not turned on the bulb will be cold and the other 2 he can tell cause if you leave one on longer than the other the bulb wil be hotter than the other.
if this makes any sense.  :P ;D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/08/03 at 05:29 a.m.

I think Babyeyes got this right, but to clarify

Leave switch A Off
Switch B ON
Switch C On for a few minutes, then off

When you enter the room, the bulb that's lit is B, the cold bulb is A and the hot bulb is C

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 08:53 a.m.

Babyeyes J!
Although Taoist explained it better than the book does, for consistency:
LIGHT WORK
You set switches A and B on and switch C off.  You wait a few minutes and then switch B off.  You then enter the room.  The bulb which is on is connected to A.  The cold bulb which is off is connected to C  The warm bulb which is off is connected to B

Tally -
Rice Cube - 6
Taoist - 5
Cat - 2
Tangle - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
PrincessOfPop - 1
BabyEyes J - 1

WHAT A BORE!
An office worker has a colleague in her office outstaying his welcome.  She can see that he is not inclined to leave any time soon.  Concerned about his feelings, how does she manage to get rid of him without offending him?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 10:26 a.m.


Quoting:
WHAT A BORE!
An office worker has a colleague in her office outstaying his welcome.  She can see that he is not inclined to leave any time soon.  Concerned about his feelings, how does she manage to get rid of him without offending him?

End Quote



Tell him there's a movie out that he might want to watch?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 10:37 a.m.


Quoting:
Tell him there's a movie out that he might want to watch?
End Quote



No

Clue: The woman arranges an interruption, but no one else is involved.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/08/03 at 10:38 a.m.

She calls her work phone from her mobile!

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 10:41 a.m.

She takes him out for coffee?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 10:54 a.m.

Taoist, my brother in White Wolfenism!
WHAT A BORE!
She has a cellular phone in her pocket.  Discreetly, she presses a button on it that causes it to give a test ring.  She pretends that she has been awaiting an important call that she must take.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 6
Taoist - 6
Cat - 2
Tangle - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
PrincessOfPop - 1
BabyEyes J - 1

This next one must be true, because it's pretty specific.  Methink mayhaps you'll have to ask some incisive questions to get it right:
SOVIET PICTURES
During the dark days of the Soviet Union, purges took place following which experts in photography would doctor photographs to remove individuals who had been purged.  How was one expert caught out?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 10:57 a.m.


Quoting:
This next one must be true, because it's pretty specific.  Methink mayhaps you'll have to ask some incisive questions to get it right:
SOVIET PICTURES
During the dark days of the Soviet Union, purges took place following which experts in photography would doctor photographs to remove individuals who had been purged.  How was one expert caught out?
End Quote



Did he forget to take out the shadow of the purgee?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 11:15 a.m.


Quoting:
Did he forget to take out the shadow of the purgee?
End Quote


No

Clue: A fault was found in the photograph which proved it had been tampered with.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 11:17 a.m.


Quoting:
Clue: A fault was found in the photograph which proved it had been tampered with.
End Quote



Well, duh ::)

Did it fail to reflect light at some area?  Because photograph paper is glossy...

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/08/03 at 11:18 a.m.

Did he forget to remove a reflection in a mirror?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 02:51 p.m.


Quoting:
Well, duh ::)
Did it fail to reflect light at some area?  Because photograph paper is glossy...
End Quote


No

Quoting:Did he forget to remove a reflection in a mirror? End Quote


No

Clue:  A fault was discovered by a Count.  Or, a fault was discovered by a count.  

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/08/03 at 02:54 p.m.

The expert removed someone from a group of known size, such as a football team

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 04:16 p.m.

That sounds right...

How about leaving a chair behind where there should've been a guy sitting there?  :P

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 04:32 p.m.


Quoting:
The expert removed someone from a group of known size, such as a football team
End Quote


Yes, but incomplete.

Quoting:How about leaving a chair behind where there should've been a guy sitting there?  End Quote


No.

No clues left, but what questions can you formulate to get the answer to this one?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 04:35 p.m.

Uh...

There were no shadows and no reflections...

So were there any remnants of the deleted purgee at all?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 04:36 p.m.


Quoting:
So were there any remnants of the deleted purgee at all?
End Quote



YES!!!  Excellent question.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 04:39 p.m.

Were there any easily observable discrepancies?  Like a shoe, or a violin, something like that?  Or was it obscure?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 04:40 p.m.


Quoting:
Were there any easily observable discrepancies?  Like a shoe, or a violin, something like that?  Or was it obscure?
End Quote


Yes, yes and no.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 04:41 p.m.

Were there any people actually in this photograph?  

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 05:06 p.m.


Quoting:
Were there any people actually in this photograph?  
End Quote



Taoist wrote: The expert removed someone from a group of known size, such as a football team

The answer was Yes, but incomplete

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 05:08 p.m.

Was the purgee a political figure?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 05:11 p.m.


Quoting:
Were there any people actually in this photograph?  
End Quote


Yes, people sat for the photograph.

Quoting:Was the purgee a political figure? End Quote


Irrelevant

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: princessofpop on 02/08/03 at 05:49 p.m.

Was the purgee smoking and they left the smoke from his cigarette in the picture?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 06:00 p.m.


Quoting:
Was the purgee smoking and they left the smoke from his cigarette in the picture?
End Quote


No

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 08:05 p.m.

Was it in a hall with a set number of chairs (historically) yet one chair was missing?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 08:09 p.m.


Quoting:
Was it in a hall with a set number of chairs (historically) yet one chair was missing?
End Quote


Let's break that question down:
Were there chairs? Yes
Were there a certain number of chairs? Yes
Is that important? Yes
Were there any chairs missing? No

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 08:13 p.m.

Then there was an empty chair and two guys were cradling an empty space in between them... ?  It must have been obvious.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 08:18 p.m.


Quoting:
Then there was an empty chair and two guys were cradling an empty space in between them... ?  It must have been obvious.
End Quote



:D
Were there more than one person photographed?  Yes, a number more.
Was there a table? Yes
Were there chairs? Yes
Was there a photograph of an empty chair? No
Hint: The photograph was taken with a wide-angle lens

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 08:20 p.m.

Okay, wait...is it possible that the guy doctored the part OVER the table, but forgot the part UNDER the table?  ???

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: princessofpop on 02/08/03 at 08:21 p.m.

Was there a leg or a limb left in the picture that they failed to remove?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 08:29 p.m.

WooHoo!  We got a tie! (Princess said the magic word "limb.)
SOVIET PICTURES
In a group of ten Soviet officials photographed sitting around a table there were eleven pairs of eet underneath the table.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 7
Taoist - 6
Cat - 2
Tangle - 2
PrincessOfPop - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
BabyEyes J - 1

UNKNOWN CHARACTER
A recluse who had lived for many years in a small community was charged with a serious crime.  He knew nobody in the area.  Whom did he call as a character witness?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 08:30 p.m.


Quoting:


UNKNOWN CHARACTER
A recluse who had lived for many years in a small community was charged with a serious crime.  He knew nobody in the area.  Whom did he call as a character witness?
End Quote


His mailman?


Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: princessofpop on 02/08/03 at 08:31 p.m.

hmmm...maybe another "personality" that he had.  As in split personality?

or maybe "god as his witness"?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 08:42 p.m.


Quoting:
His mailman?
End Quote


No

Quoting:hmmm...maybe another "personality" that he had.  As in split personality? End Quote


No

Clue: He called someone who did not know him.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: princessofpop on 02/08/03 at 08:45 p.m.

Does it have anything to do with the type of crime he was charged with?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 08:49 p.m.

The census taker dude?  ???

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: princessofpop on 02/08/03 at 08:52 p.m.


Quoting:
The census taker dude?  ???
End Quote



oooohh that was gooood rice!  ;D

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 08:53 p.m.


Quoting:
Does it have anything to do with the type of crime he was charged with?
End Quote


No


Quoting:The census taker dude?  End Quote


No

Clue: By calling this person he hoped to prove he was not a bad character.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 08:54 p.m.

Is the character witness some kind of an expert?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: princessofpop on 02/08/03 at 08:59 p.m.

A psyhic?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 09:04 p.m.


Quoting:
Is the character witness some kind of an expert?
End Quote


irrelevant

Quoting:A psyhic? End Quote


No

Hint:  Think of something Eric Clapton and Bob Marley share in common.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 09:06 p.m.

A drug addict?  ???

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: princessofpop on 02/08/03 at 09:18 p.m.

The Sheriff that he shot?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 09:24 p.m.


Quoting:
The Sheriff that he shot?
End Quote



But he didn't shoot the deputy... ::)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/08/03 at 09:30 p.m.

The sheriff!!!!!!!!
UNKNOWN CHARACTER
He called the local sheriff, who had never heard of him.  He used this as proof of his good character.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 7
Taoist - 6
PrincessOfPop - 3
Cat - 2
Tangle - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
BabyEyes J - 1

Now for the I'm-leaving-now Taoist question:
GASOLINE PROBLEM
A man's car runs out of gasoline.  His car tank holds exactly 13 gallons.  He has three empty unmarked containers which hold 3 gallons, 6 gallons and 11 gallons.  Using only these containers at the gas station, how can bring back exactly 13 gallons?  He is not allowed to buy more than 13 gallons and dispose of the extra.


Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 09:48 p.m.

Now if the gas station has an accurate gauge he should just buy 11 gallons in the 11 tank and 2 gallons in the other tank ::)

I'll think of a better answer if that's not the case after I eat...

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/08/03 at 10:38 p.m.

This problem is impossible.  6 is a multiple of 3.  If it were a five gallon tank, I could do it in a heartbeat.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Banasy on 02/08/03 at 11:02 p.m.


GASOLINE PROBLEM
A man's car runs out of gasoline.  His car tank holds exactly 13 gallons.  He has three empty unmarked containers which hold 3 gallons, 6 gallons and 11 gallons.  Using only these containers at the gas station, how can bring back exactly 13 gallons?  He is not allowed to buy more than 13 gallons and dispose of the extra.End Quote



He puts 3 gallons in the 3 gallon container, 6 gallons in the 6 gallon container, and 4 gallons in the 11 gallon container. I saw nowhere in the problen that stated that each container hadto hold the amount specified...only that between the 3 he gets 13 gallons.

And if they are unmarked, they are probably not approved for gas use...in which case he calles AAA to tow his butt with the containers in his trunk.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: JonnyP on 02/09/03 at 07:42 a.m.

Fill the 6 gallon one up full, then half fill the other two. 1.5+6+5.5 = 13. Next....

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/09/03 at 01:40 p.m.


Quoting:
Now if the gas station has an accurate gauge he should just buy 11 gallons in the 11 tank and 2 gallons in the other tank ::)

End Quote



Yep.
GASOLINE PROBLEM
The man uses the meter at the gas pump to measure out exactly 13 gallons.  He puts 11 gallons in the large container and 2 gallons into one of the others.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 8
Taoist - 6
PrincessOfPop - 3
Cat - 2
Tangle - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
BabyEyes J - 1

THE COCONUT MILLIONAIRE
A man buys coconuts at $5 a dozen and sells them at $3 a dozen.  As a result of this he becomes a millionaire.  How come?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 01:46 p.m.

He made coconut pudding out of each coconut?

So that each coconut can make a dozen coconut puddings...

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/09/03 at 02:23 p.m.

Different dollars is my guess - he buys them in Fiji dollars, Eastern Carribbean dollars or whichever and sells them in American dollars, making his profit that way.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/09/03 at 03:02 p.m.


Quoting:
Different dollars is my guess - he buys them in Fiji dollars, Eastern Carribbean dollars or whichever and sells them in American dollars, making his profit that way.
End Quote


No


Quoting:He made coconut pudding out of each coconut?
End Quote


No

Clue: He lost money on every coconut he sold.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 03:03 p.m.

Was this a stock thing, and was he selling short the coconut stocks?  ???

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/09/03 at 03:07 p.m.

Hmm. He offered discount coconuts to people frequenting his otherwise somewhat expensive store?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Thunderbolt on 02/09/03 at 03:09 p.m.

Did he grow more coconuts from them?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/09/03 at 03:17 p.m.


Quoting:
Was this a stock thing, and was he selling short the coconut stocks?  ???
End Quote


No

Quoting:Hmm. He offered discount coconuts to people frequenting his otherwise somewhat expensive store? End Quote


No

Quoting:Did he grow more coconuts from them? End Quote


No

Clue: He did not make money by any related activity.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 03:19 p.m.

Blast...

Okay, lost money on each coconut, no related activity...

Hmmm...

Did he employ others in his coconut venture?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/09/03 at 03:33 p.m.

He's a billionaire when he starts out!

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/09/03 at 03:39 p.m.


Tangle untangles the puzzle!
THE COCONUT MILLIONAIRE
The man is a philanthropist who bought great quantities of coconuts to sell to poor people at prices they could afford.  He started out as a billionaire, but lost so much money in his good works that he became a millionaire!

Tally -
Rice Cube - 8
Taoist - 6
PrincessOfPop - 3
Tangle - 3
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
BabyEyes J - 1

DISREPUTABLE
A man was born before his father, killed his mother and married his sister.  Yet he was considered normal by all those who knew him.  How come?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 03:41 p.m.


Quoting:
DISREPUTABLE
A man was born before his father, killed his mother and married his sister.  Yet he was considered normal by all those who knew him.  How come?
End Quote



Was he a priest?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Thunderbolt on 02/09/03 at 03:42 p.m.

Maybe nobody knew him anymore.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/09/03 at 03:44 p.m.

That last one was a real bolt from the blue when it came to me!

Not sure about the mother part of this one, but here goes...

His father was present at his birth, and his mother died in childbirth. He went on to become a priest, and performed the marriage ceremony for his sister and her husband.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/09/03 at 03:51 p.m.

Tangle!  Does he have the steam to make it before the dreaded 20th page cutoff?
DISREPUTABLE
He was born in the presence of his father.  His mother died at the birth.  He became a pastor and married his sister to her husband.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 8
Taoist - 6
Tangle - 4
PrincessOfPop -3
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
BabyEyes J - 1

AN AMERICAN SHOOTING
One American man shot dead another American man in full view of many people.  The two men had never met before and did not know each other.  Neither was a policeman nor a criminal.  The man who shot and killed the other man was not arrested or charged with any crime.  Why not?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 03:53 p.m.

Was this in a movie, in a movie theater?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/09/03 at 03:56 p.m.

During the American Civil War?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/09/03 at 04:00 p.m.

Tangle!
AN AMERICAN SHOOTING
This happened during the American Civil War.  The men were soldiers in the opposing armies.

Tally -
Rice Cube - 8
Taoist - 6
Tangle - 5
PrincessOfPop -3
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
BabyEyes J - 1

KING GEORGE
King George the Third of England suffered a temporary bout of madness.  A movie was made in England on this subject.  It was entitled "The Madness of George III," but this name was changed for American audiences.  Why?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 04:03 p.m.

Because Americans don't know who George III is?  :P

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/09/03 at 04:03 p.m.

The story I heard was that foolish Americans would assume it was the third installment of a series.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 04:05 p.m.


Quoting:
The story I heard was that foolish Americans would assume it was the third installment of a series.
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Yeah, what Tangle said. :P

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/09/03 at 04:10 p.m.

Tangle again!
KING GEORGE
It was believed that many cinema-goers would mistakenly think it was the third in a series of movies, and would not go to see it because they had missed the first two.  It was released as "The Madness of King George."

Tally -
Rice Cube - 8
Taoist - 6
Tangle - 6
PrincessOfPop -3
Cat - 2
Banasy - 1
Shazzaah - 1
80s Cheerleader - 1
BabyEyes J - 1

THE FLAW IN THE CARPET
A man bought a very expensive oriental carpet in a reputable carpet shop in a Middle Eastern country.  After he had bought it he found that it had a flaw.  He took it back to the shop.  It was agreed that there was a flaw in the carpet but the shopkeeper refused to take back the carpet or give any kind of refund or reduction in price.  Why not?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/09/03 at 04:11 p.m.

He found out the hard way that it wasn't fireproof?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 04:24 p.m.

He didn't have his receipt?  :P

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/09/03 at 04:28 p.m.

A slightly more reasonable guess than my last wine-inspired one - the flaw was deliberately introduced to make the carpet unique?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/09/03 at 05:46 p.m.

Quoting:He found out the hard way that it wasn't fireproof? End Quote


No

Quoting:He didn't have his receipt?End Quote


No

Quoting:The flaw was deliberately introduced ...? End Quote


Yes

Quoting:The flaw was deliberately introduced to make the carpet unique?End Quote


No

Clue: The shop explained that, although there was a flaw in the carpet, it was not the result of an error or mistake.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/09/03 at 05:49 p.m.

OK, so it's the carpet equivalent of an artist's signature or trademark? (he said, hoping that in vino there is indeed veritas)  ;)

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 05:51 p.m.

Maybe time to start a new thread ;)

I'd say that there were artistic holes put into the carpet.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/09/03 at 05:53 p.m.


Quoting:
Maybe time to start a new thread ;)
End Quote



Yes, I'm a frayed this one's nearly over.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/09/03 at 05:54 p.m.


Quoting:
Maybe time to start a new thread ;)End Quote


We'll have one more question after this one, and then maybe a Son of Lateral Thinking...

Quoting:I'd say that there were artistic holes put into the carpet.
End Quote


No

Quoting:OK, so it's the carpet equivalent of an artist's signature or trademark? End Quote


No

Clue:  The carpet makers were devout Muslims.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 05:56 p.m.

Was there a dead dude with his beard woven into the carpet?  :o

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/09/03 at 05:59 p.m.

The "flaw" was Arabic writing?




Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Tangle on 02/09/03 at 06:01 p.m.

Knackered if I know, and time for bed. As a last gasp I'll guess that it's to do with Islamic design not showing images per se - flaws are deliberately introduced to avoid this?

Goodnight all!

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/09/03 at 06:05 p.m.

No, no, and no.  
Why would devout Muslims deliberately introduce flaws into carpets?

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/09/03 at 06:12 p.m.

They wrote the word "Flaw" in Arabic.





Cat

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 07:37 p.m.

The flaw was deliberately introduced because the artist felt nobody should be perfect but God or Allah or whatever.  ???

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/09/03 at 07:55 p.m.

And the Lateral Thinking Champion is....


Rice Cube!!!!!

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Crazy Don on 02/09/03 at 09:03 p.m.

This is beyond comprehension; I hope Hairspray locks up this thread I don't understand!

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Indy Gent on 02/09/03 at 09:39 p.m.

We don't agree much, Don. But I agree with you here. I hope we do better on the second part. :-/

Quoting:
This is beyond comprehension; I hope Hairspray locks up this thread I don't understand!
End Quote

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Rice Cube on 02/09/03 at 09:44 p.m.


Quoting:
This is beyond comprehension; I hope Hairspray locks up this thread I don't understand!
End Quote


Quoting:
We don't agree much, Don. But I agree with you here. I hope we do better on the second part. :-/

End Quote



Don and Indy:

I know I haven't been on this board nearly as long as you two claim, but let's give the moderator the benefit of the doubt and pretend Hairspray just maybe, MAYBE overlooked this thread because rarely do quiz threads end up at page 20.

By the way, the fact that the two of you actually give a shiitake mushroom about how long a thread gets is almost pitiful.

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Indy Gent on 02/09/03 at 10:23 p.m.

I really don't give a shiitake mushroom about the length of this thread. I do give a shiitake mushroom that this thread is even on the quizzes forum instead of the PBG. It doesn't help that Don and myself are strictly face-value guys and don't feel like "thinking outside the box" as the smarter people have been quoted as saying. But I do feel that if Hairspray made the rule to keep a thread at 20 pages, the rule should apply to everyone. That's why we have two or more threads of the same catagory. I am glad you are enjoying your "smart people quiz", but don't belittle everyone else for not thinking the same as you.

Quoting:
By the way, the fact that the two of you actually give a shiitake mushroom about how long a thread gets is almost pitiful.
End Quote

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Steve_H on 02/10/03 at 01:04 a.m.

It's just a game. It's just a messageboard.  I put it on this board because it seems more a Quiz than a Board Game.  

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Indy Gent on 02/10/03 at 02:10 a.m.

If you feel this is a quiz, I'm not stopping you. It's just it doesn't feel like a quiz. Actually I find it ingenious in a way. Maybe I'm just a little frustrated that I haven't gotten anything right on any of your quizzes.

Quoting:
It's just a game. It's just a messageboard.  I put it on this board because it seems more a Quiz than a Board Game.  
End Quote

Subject: Re: Lateral Thinking

Written By: Taoist on 02/10/03 at 04:12 a.m.

Steve

I hope you do another of these, I enjoyed it (despite the timezone problems)
I apologise for my absence over the weekend, this is  because, unfortunately, I subscribe to Satan's own ISP (NTL) who didn't consider it necessary to actually provide me with a service  >:(
A situation I intend to rectify within the month!

Tao