About once a month I get asked by someone if a parody is available for reprint, or if a recorded version is available of a parody on the site.

I'm thinking maybe it would help if I had a list of people who were willing to write something on demand (say for a radio commercial) or better yet would write and perform a song on demand. 

A lot of the parodies on the site seem to lack contact info, and usually someone just stumbles into the site via google and has no idea what's going on.  It would be useful to be able to point them to a list like that and say "hey, I don't know if you can contact the original author, but maybe one of these people would be willing to write you something that's an even better fit for your product"

I tried to start something like that on my own recently but I would be happy to make it a group effort especially because I seem to be clueless in the marketing department.  I think something like this is certainly long overdue, and if you can figure out how to use the promptparodies.com domain that I bought for 10 dollars through google you are certainly welcome to.

So yeah, count me in as someone willing to write on demand, and now we have even more people willing to perform on demand than we did when I took the internet marketing conference gig a couple of years ago.


LYRICS

With all the damned fake commercials and special requests I've done, put me in the list of "Will Write For Hire."  8)
EDIT: Lyrics

I'm in (lyrics only). Although I have a resource that may provide the performance - I'll check and get back to you.

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Lyrics
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About once a month I get asked by someone if a parody is available for reprint, or if a recorded version is available of a parody on the site.

I'm thinking maybe it would help if I had a list of people who were willing to write something on demand (say for a radio commercial) or better yet would write and perform a song on demand. 

A lot of the parodies on the site seem to lack contact info, and usually someone just stumbles into the site via google and has no idea what's going on.  It would be useful to be able to point them to a list like that and say "hey, I don't know if you can contact the original author, but maybe one of these people would be willing to write you something that's an even better fit for your product"


I'm in since I both write on the spot (I run many contests which force me to do that), and I also record parodies I am very interested in this.

Performance & Lyrics

I'm in...for Performance & Lyrics


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I'm in: Lyrics

I've written for cash on a couple of occasions... the downside was that it wasn't me earning the cash (a charity auction of a parody).

Lyrics and performance (though there's a very limited range of what I can perform.. but if the money's there...)

Anyone else thinking that this and an amiright idle competition could be linked somehow?

Would there be someone in charge recommending writers and/or musicians to prospective clients?  Or is it just a list of people willing to write/perform? It would probably be easier for someone who has been a very active member of amiright over the past few years and knows the work of most people who have volunteered their services to make a decision than to make the client do a lot of research.

Also, for those who are willing to make recordings and primarily/exclusively use midi backing tracks, I think whether you have the rights to use those tracks in a professional recording needs to be confirmed.  A lawsuit would wipe out any profits made and then lots.  Saying "and then some" would be a gross understatement.

Would there be someone in charge recommending writers and/or musicians to prospective clients?  Or is it just a list of people willing to write/perform? It would probably be easier for someone who has been a very active member of amiright over the past few years and knows the work of most people who have volunteered their services to make a decision than to make the client do a lot of research.

Also, for those who are willing to make recordings and primarily/exclusively use midi backing tracks, I think whether you have the rights to use those tracks in a professional recording needs to be confirmed.  A lawsuit would wipe out any profits made and then lots.  Saying "and then some" would be a gross understatement.


I think if a company is intrested in hearing/reading parodies about their service then Chucky (Or somebody) would post that under the forum so we could do the research ourselves and pick out certain parodies of ours that fit the bill, or write new ones for the employer.

Yea, sure.. I'm in for both writing and performance.

I am a performer and writer of course.

I have to mention, there are licensing fees involved that would have to be paid on behalf of the bands that do my tracks and the deals I worked out, but they are VERY reasonable fees, but I am in.

I also do record for other parodists on occasion if needed, but I'd obviously be working with that parodist, which means they'd be dealing with joint parties, I understand most people who would (or at least those who have) consider me for commercial purpose have generally wanted to work with me directly and didn't want to multi-collaborate, but I can do leg work.

This is already possible (and has been done).  I think the idea is to let people interested in professional parodies know that there are amiright/inthe00s members with the ability and willingness to create said parodies and connect an employer with a song as efficiently as possible.  If the potential employer's wishes are posted on the forum then you'll get several (at least) people working on the same idea which, unless the employer is looking for more than one song, could be seen as an enormous waste of effort because working on that keeps other writers from writing what they want or writing for other employers.  Companies that don't delegate responsibility are pretty much bound to fail.

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I think if a company is intrested in hearing/reading parodies about their service then Chucky (Or somebody) would post that under the forum so we could do the research ourselves and pick out certain parodies of ours that fit the bill, or write new ones for the employer.

Yeah, I can't imagine a company that wants to wait for a contest like decision, they generally already know what style they like to begin with, I'm with Ethan on this one buddy, I can't see that--what Chucky wants to do is have or present a ready list of writer/performers who are interested in commercial work should the demand arise so that when people contact him in the future he can say, "Yes that writer is interested", or "Yes that writer can record his work", or "No, but we have these writers/performers who can do something similar for you"

Yeah, I can't imagine a company that wants to wait for a contest like decision, they generally already know what style they like to begin with, I'm with Ethan on this one buddy, I can't see that--what Chucky wants to do is have or present a ready list of writer/performers who are interested in commercial work should the demand arise so that when people contact him in the future he can say, "Yes that writer is interested", or "Yes that writer can record his work", or "No, but we have these writers/performers who can do something similar for you"


I did not mean a contest, and I never even said a contest!
What I said is that somebody should post if an employer is intrested in our parodies so that we can post them into the thread.
Like if someone from "Pepsi" was looking for a jingle-parody and there were many people who have wrote a positive parody about Pepsi it should be noted so that the employer could take their pick of the avaible songs.
I don't think writing new ones would be possible, unless it was done within the next few days after the topic is posted, because the employer would probably want to have the parody on the spot.

I don't think that just Lyrics are going to influence a employer to buy that parody from you, because they'll still have to get a recording artist to preform your work, but if you can already perform your work, and have performed that peice the employer would probably be more willing to buy the parody off you.

First of all, there is no reason why an employer can't get lyrics from one of us and the recording from another.  That's what happened when I wrote the song for the internet marketing conference. Also, I know - or know people who know - plenty of musicians who I'm sure could and would record parody lyrics if payment was guaranteed.  The process might take a few days, but except in rare cases a competent businessperson will plan in advance and not be in an enormous rush to get a finished product.

I know an actual contest was never proposed, but if the opportunity was made public knowledge then I know that the money involved would persuade me to give it a shot no matter how unlikely it would normally be for me to write something like that and I'm sure several others would feel the same way and there could be at least as much complaining as there was regarding the results of the obsolete historical parody contests in addition to the inefficient use of talent and brainpower.

and I think last night, which was after you made your post Matthias, i further explained what Chucky was trying to do so that's taken are of

Similarly, I agree that being able to perform a song can help--if a set of lyrics is good, people ARE willing to pay for lyrics on their own.  I mean many commercial entities are willing to pay professional singers, or even the original, to sing for their commercials. . .parody has become a staple of modern advertising, everyday you see it on TV (Viva Viagra (Viva Las Vegas), Pepto Bismol Song (Macarena)) 

I think the list of those who are willing to work with/deal with commercial advertising on a writing end, on a performing end, and on both ends is an important list to have, but I know that this debate is well over so let's give it back to Chucky as I'm pretty sure he'd rather see who wants to be on this list than our healthy debate Matty ;)

Chucky: One other idea I have for you is making a contact link to you specifically for use of parody in advertising, that way it can be regulated and those that want to contact you about it are more easily able to and if you set up a form, you can control the subject so that you know in advance what it's about, but that's up to you, something tells me you want this list for yourself for when people contact you and that you aren't looking to post it on the site (though if I'm wrong that's cool too), My preferred contact info is in my profile if you need it for that list, thanks guy.

Chucky: One other idea I have for you is making a contact link to you specifically for use of parody in advertising, that way it can be regulated and those that want to contact you about it are more easily able to and if you set up a form, you can control the subject so that you know in advance what it's about, but that's up to you, something tells me you want this list for yourself for when people contact you and that you aren't looking to post it on the site (though if I'm wrong that's cool too), My preferred contact info is in my profile if you need it for that list, thanks guy.


I'm going to put a page on amIright that I can point people to, which is basically a list of authors on the site and what they do.  I guess I should have contact info next to each name (a preferred means of initial contact like a website or an email link) since I don't think every author has that on their author page.

I'll try and work on something now that I can easily make changes to on the website.  If I make it a regular static web page, I'll never remember to update the silly thing.  Let me get something up on the site, and we'll see how it should be modified from there.

here we go:

http://www.amiright.com/parody/contact-directory/

There's a submission form at the bottom of the page.  You might want to place a link on your regular author page once you're in the directory.  I should be able to automate it, but I'm lazy

I have submitted my little "resume". I hope this is something that can be edited easily, or even deleted, by the submitter or by one of your editors. (wish I had thought of that before I hit SEND...)

Before I make my submission I would like to be more clear on what the "full description" is because the description for it is confusing.

Before I make my submission I would like to be more clear on what the "full description" is because the description for it is confusing.


The small description appears in the index and at the top of the page.  It should be just plain text.

The full description appears underneath the small intro (and underneath your contact info).  It can contain HTML.

Once I approve a couple entries for the section it might become a little easier to understand.


I have submitted my little "resume". I hope this is something that can be edited easily, or even deleted, by the submitter or by one of your editors. (wish I had thought of that before I hit SEND...)


Right now it has to be edited by me, but it's easy to do.  I made the assumption that people wouldn't need to change it frequently, and there wouldn't be more than a dozen or so people listed.  Otherwise, I would need to spend more time creating a username/password type system to allow people to access it.  It can certainly be changed to that kind of setup later if it needs to be.

The full description appears underneath the small intro (and underneath your contact info).  It can contain HTML.

Once I approve a couple entries for the section it might become a little easier to understand.

Right now it has to be edited by me, but it's easy to do.  I made the assumption that people wouldn't need to change it frequently, and there wouldn't be more than a dozen or so people listed.  Otherwise, I would need to spend more time creating a username/password type system to allow people to access it.  It can certainly be changed to that kind of setup later if it needs to be.


Yeah, because I didn't even think of linking past work in that box... :-[. When I'm ready, I'll just get you/an editor to delete it and I will resubmit. Not a biggie, of course. Thanks, Chuck!

(hey participants, karmalize the man if you havne't already...)

Yeah, because I didn't even think of linking past work in that box... :-[. When I'm ready, I'll just get you/an editor to delete it and I will resubmit. Not a biggie, of course. Thanks, Chuck!

(hey participants, karmalize the man if you havne't already...)


not a problem.

I noticed I had some wrong information still in the form from the template I used when building it, as well as some other issues.

Basically everyone who has submitted so far has made mistakes due to my oversights, and can just email me or resubmit their whole entry.

BAD -> need a website link or email for the contact link
Matthias -> your full description and intro description are the same, which looks bad.
Agrimorfee -> you know already


I'm still working out the kinks with the formatting too... still a little too plain on the contact pages

Would it be easier for people, if the intro paragraph was only used in the index?

I need to limit the number of characters for that intro box as well. Something under 300 or so I guess.

Would it be easier for people, if the intro paragraph was only used in the index?

I need to limit the number of characters for that intro box as well. Something under 300 or so I guess.


I like what you did with mine. If that's what you are asking, go with it.

I like what you did with mine. If that's what you are asking, go with it.


I was asking if I should change that, but if you like it, then I guess it should stay.

This will become more visible at some point, right?

This will become more visible at some point, right?


yes.  Going to add it to the navigation structure shortly, as well as mention it on the front page of the site and a few other spots.

One request:

"Phil Alexander can be contacted via their website"

I'm not entirely sure when I became a plural.. the other thing is that it's an email address (with an AT rather than @) 'cause I get more than enough spam from open email addresses on the web.  If the text read "<author name> can be contacted <here>" with the word "here" as the appropriate link, that would work both ways.

...and any chance you could change mine into a mailto: even without the @ sign?

yes.  Going to add it to the navigation structure shortly, as well as mention it on the front page of the site and a few other spots.


I wondered what happened to this...turns out that it got misplaced in the navigation structure and it is listed in the "real lyrics" section with a description that doesn't fit at all.

I wondered what happened to this...turns out that it got misplaced in the navigation structure and it is listed in the "real lyrics" section with a description that doesn't fit at all.


I was thinking about this last week too, it's on my short list of things to fix this week.

I don't even see it in the real lyrics section... you'll have to let me know where you're seeing it there. 

It was in the full site navigation list, under the parody section.

http://www.amiright.com/sitemap.shtml

4th in real lyrics, which is under parody

I don't even see it in the real lyrics section... you'll have to let me know where you're seeing it there. 


You fixed it, good job. Um, I made a big booboo...I need to change the date of my Bachelor's Degree to 1992, it's not 1989. Let me know if I need to totally resubmit. Sorry, Chuck...thanks.

It was in the full site navigation list, under the parody section.

http://www.amiright.com/sitemap.shtml

4th in real lyrics, which is under parody


forgot all about that page, it's generated automatically from a script.  I fixed the issue with the configuration file and it's in the right spot now.  The other navigation areas have it now too.  I still need to add it to the FAQ and the main parody index section.

forgot all about that page, it's generated automatically from a script.  I fixed the issue with the configuration file and it's in the right spot now.  The other navigation areas have it now too.  I still need to add it to the FAQ and the main parody index section.


These are certainly good first steps - the directory won't just lie there once it's added to the FAQ and main parody index section, will it? I think that there is enormous potential if the directory is treated not as merely a list of writers who can be asked to write parodies for other people but more like a business so that the list is actively publicized both to the general public and to potentially interested parties such as singing telegram companies and radio comedy syndicates and whoever is doing the advertising (above and beyond something like mentioning it on a personal site, which everyone in the directory should be doing) would get a share of the money that comes in. Sure, it sounds ambitious, but is  succeeding through actively seeking clients in search of parodies any less realistic than getting 55,000 parodies submitted to one site in less than eight years?

These are certainly good first steps - the directory won't just lie there once it's added to the FAQ and main parody index section, will it?


my only plans for it, was to have a list to send people to when I get asked about stuff like that.  I'm not sure I can do more with it than that really.

The paragraph in the parody section with links to the different parody-related parts of the site could have a sentence about the directory and a link pointing to it, couldn't it? That doesn't seem like it would be much trouble to do.