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Subject: another low maintenance parody competition idea
Since the top ten lists are being eliminated here's an idea to help fill the void... The ABCs of parody tournament. The first week everyone who enters picks a parody they wrote where the parody title starts with "A"... if you don't have any you can write one or wait until another week. Everyone who has submitted a parody during the tournament is eligible to vote and voting for your own song is not allowed and purposely voting for bad songs may result in disqualification. Only one song per writer is allowed to win to give less prolific writers a better chance and add strategy into the competition. Any thoughts? If people are interested the entries will be due next friday
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Qualify that. Does "A" as used like "The" count? Interested.
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I think it'll make things much easier if everything starting with the word "a" counts as a
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Wow, I only don't have parodies that start with B, E, K, M, Q, R and Z. That's awesome http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif. On a similar note, do things that start with a letter not including an article still count as well? Just clarifying.
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Ethan, an interesting idea. It certainly couldn't hurt anybody. And it would "A"quaint us with some parodies we have probably missed over time.
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songs that start with the word "a" only can be used in the "a" round but "the" is not counted as part of a title for this.
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Hey Ethan, nice idea!
But I have one question... should Pippin and I cast a single vote as a block or should we vote separately? In a way it seems like we should cast a block vote, since we have one submission (otherwise the tournament will have one more vote per tournament than there are submissions); but on the other hand, Pip and I argue enough already, without having to try and agree on who to vote for! ;D
Let me know...
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Since the top ten lists are being eliminated here's an idea to help fill the void... The ABCs of parody tournament. The first week everyone who enters picks a parody they wrote where the parody title starts with "A"... if you don't have any you can write one or wait until another week. Everyone who has submitted a parody during the tournament is eligible to vote and voting for your own song is not allowed and purposely voting for bad songs may result in disqualification. Only one song per writer is allowed to win to give less prolific writers a better chance and add strategy into the competition. Any thoughts? If people are interested the entries will be due next friday
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It appears that you are suggesting/mandating (?) that we only vote for the song that we think is best, not the top 3 like Claude's Parody of the Month contest was/is going to be. Either way is fine with me, I just want it to be clarified.
(My recommendation would be for voting to be as Claude outlined in the Parody of the Month contest - top 3 in order. And I do like your rule about parody writers not voting for themselves.)
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this is just picking your favorite... a top three would be too much work for me for a weekly contest
both members of a duo are allowed to vote... remember you can't vote on your own song
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Good clarification, Ethan...But you know with this group I think you would find a majority, perhaps an overwhelming majority, voting for someone ELSE's parody anyway...at least that's my suspicion.
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this is just picking your favorite... a top three would be too much work for me for a weekly contest
both members of a duo are allowed to vote... remember you can't vote on your own song
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"purposely voting for bad songs may result in disqualification."
I would sure hate to be designated as the official "bad song" for the competition...I'm sure we can all see the problems with this guideline. Other than that, it's a good concept.
Now I need to figure out how I can write something that starts with "X"...
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Quoting:Pip and I argue enough already, without having to try and agree on who to vote for! ;D
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We don't argue if I do everything you say..... ???
Shuddup ;D
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We don't argue if I do everything you say..... ???
Shuddup ;D
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~ What is the sound of one hand slapping? ~
Subject: Re: another low maintenance parody competition ide
Sharp eyes, fellow Old-timer. Somehow I missed that or I would have been certain to make a smart-assed remark. Perhaps we could take a volunteer to post a really "bad parody". Of course some folks can do it on the Natural but most of the writers here would probably really have to struggle to put out something REALLY bad (I think, anyway).
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"purposely voting for bad songs may result in disqualification."
I would sure hate to be designated as the official "bad song" for the competition...I'm sure we can all see the problems with this guideline. Other than that, it's a good concept.
Now I need to figure out how I can write something that starts with "X"...
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Maybe we can make the official bad parody the "bathroom parody." Or the generic "bodily function parody" (not referring to Chris in any way) or even anything that picks on Britney Spears (too easy of a target) and so on. If there was a way to check a box saying "This author has not allowed voting on this parody" I'd volunteer for it...
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Ethan, who gets to decide which songs are "bad songs" and by what precise criteria will a song be judged to be one of those "bad songs" ?
And then who gets to decide whether a certain individual was "purposely voting" for them.....how can anyone tell whether anyone was doing anything at all "purposely" or "not purposely" ?
I hope the answer isn't "it's just obvious" or "it's just common sense", because what's obvious to one person may not be obvious to another, and what's common sense to one person may not be common sense to another.
Please don't get me wrong, Ethan, I am truly trying to help here.... I want this game to work.
I am asking all of these questions with the utmost sincerity and courtesy.....we all need to understand all of the rules with absolute clarity, don't you agree?
I'm glad you came up with this idea, Ethan - it's a great idea, and it's very generous of you to get it started up for everybody.
Thanks very much - I look forward to participating!
Johnny D ;D
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i guess i should've responded earlier... i suppose it's best if we just pretend i never said the bad song thing... most if not all people in this seem like they can be trusted to vote honestly so there shouldn't be a problem.
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i guess i should've responded earlier... i suppose it's best if we just pretend i never said the bad song thing... most if not all people in this seem like they can be trusted to vote honestly so there shouldn't be a problem.
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If one person votes for a song that everybody else thinks is a terrible song, without explaining why they voted for that song that everyone else thinks is bad, would that suggest to you, Ethan, that that one person is not voting honestly?
If so...why?
Johnny D :)
Subject: Re: another low maintenance parody competition ide
it would be nice if someone explained their reasoning after making a controversial choice if they were asked to... but i'm not disqualifying anyone based on voting
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it would be nice if someone explained their reasoning after making a controversial choice if they were asked to... but i'm not disqualifying anyone based on voting
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Fair enough.
However... IMHO... I do not believe that any of us should consider any player's voting-choice to EVER be controversial, so long as it is a choice made from the songs entered in the game.
I just can't imagine taking this game so seriously as to ever consider any player's voting-choice "controversial" !!
I mean come on, really, it's a GAME, isn't it? It's a form of "play", right?
Can't we all just agree ahead of time to let go of the entire concept of "controversy" for the sake of playing this game together? I already have. I invite everyone else to join me!
Peace
Johnny D :)
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Well, the top ten lists were just for fun, too, right? But apparently some people took them too seriously and screwed it up for the rest of us. There's nothing wrong with trying to protect the integrity of the game but if you can't prove anything, I agree it's wrong to take any official action. However, if somebody does do something that everyone else feels is fishy, people may naturally be inclined to sanction them somehow in the future--in a non-proveable way, of course.
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Well, the top ten lists were just for fun, too, right? But apparently some people took them too seriously and screwed it up for the rest of us. There's nothing wrong with trying to protect the integrity of the game but if you can't prove anything, I agree it's wrong to take any official action. However, if somebody does do something that everyone else feels is fishy, people may naturally be inclined to sanction them somehow in the future--in a non-proveable way, of course.
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Yeah, you're right, Claude...oh well...I guess all I can do is make my pitch asking everybody to simply be grown-up and mature about what's only a frickin' game.
Johnny D
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Yeah, you're right, Claude...oh well...I guess all I can do is make my pitch asking everybody to simply be grown-up and mature about what's only a frickin' game.
Johnny D
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I totally agree Johnny, and I have a feeling we'll have a lot fewer problems with all the voting done out in the open. Like Chuck says, there's always a way for someone to cheat, but hopefully it'll just be a lot harder to get away with. Most people here are pretty mature though.
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Hyuck! Grown up, hmmm....? I'll try Johnny. Naw, seriously, I think this group can handle it without inducing any real trauma on each other. But it is interesting watching us try and organize a game with ground rules. Remember doing this for baseball or "over-the-line" as kids? It usually worked out OK then, too.
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Yeah, you're right, Claude...oh well...I guess all I can do is make my pitch asking everybody to simply be grown-up and mature about what's only a frickin' game.
Johnny D
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Maybe we can make the official bad parody the "bathroom parody." Or the generic "bodily function parody" (not referring to Chris in any way) or even anything that picks on Britney Spears (too easy of a target) and so on. If there was a way to check a box saying "This author has not allowed voting on this parody" I'd volunteer for it...
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For The Worst Amiright Parody Of ALL TIME, I nominate the recent submission about eating cats.
MM
Subject: Re: another low maintenance parody competition ide
If I want to enter the contest can I just submit my parody right in the "ABCs of Parodies Round 'Whatever'" topic, or do I have to enter somewhere else first?
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as long as the round is still going on you can enter in the thread for that round
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Personally, I don't think anybody has entered a "bad" song. They were all worthy of 4s or higher IMO. The voting would be for which one we thought was above and beyond. Just because your song got no votes doesnt mean it's "bad." Sometimes it's just personal preference- if you like baseball, but hate golf, you'll lean toward the baseball parody. If there are 2 parodies that are tied, with one more vote picking the win, but they're both about subjects the voter doesnt know well, he/she can and will probably vote for a completely different parody
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Ethan - Have you given any thought to letters of the alphabet like Q, X and Z? As it is this contest will take 6 months to complete with 26 letters in the alphabet and 26 weeks making half a year. There are going to be some fairly long weeks with Q, X and Z being the letter of the week. Maybe what you should do is when you get to week "P" make it both P and Q and when you get to week "W" just make it the rest of the alphabet - "W", "X", "Y" and "Z" in one group. This would end the contest in 22 weeks.
Also do you plan on doing anything with the weekly winners like having a runoff of all the winning songs? All the winners could be posted and make it a vote for the best three in order. Number 1 gets 3 votes, 2 gets 2 and 3 gets 1. Total up the votes on each song and the song with the highest number of points wins the overall.
Just some thoughts about the contest. Can we have a discussion on this please?
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As long as we can put "X" in there somewhere, I would be for whatever plan. Several of us here have parodies starting with X and would like to enter them.
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the post i wrote before saying there will be an "x" round must have been buried so i'll say it again... there will be a round for every letter of the alphabet
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Also do you plan on doing anything with the weekly winners like having a runoff of all the winning songs? All the winners could be posted and make it a vote for the best three in order. Number 1 gets 3 votes, 2 gets 2 and 3 gets 1. Total up the votes on each song and the song with the highest number of points wins the overall.
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I believe that Ethan planned to have a run-off of the winners in six months. Right, Ethan? And I was just joking about the x. I knew that had already been decided by Ethan.