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Subject: Question about voting
To ChuckyG or anyone else that may know how this works...
If several people get 5.00/17, for example, what determines who is listed first in the voting results? I notice that sometimes one person will be in the Top 10, but another with the same score will be listed as 11 or 12. Is it by who gets their votes first? This may have been asked and answered before I was around. Thanks!
Subject: Re: Question about voting
I'm not Chucky, but if you go to one of the voting result pages it talks about a special algorithm, much like the one used by IMDb, that ranks the parodies not just based on the vote quality but also on vote quantity. So a parody with 5.00/20 will get more weight than a parody with 5.00/15, or a parody with 4.50/20 will get more weight than a parody with 5.00/10.
Hope that helps :)
Subject: Re: Question about voting
Rice, thanks, I understand that part, but what I'm not clear on is if several votes are exactly the same, then what determines which of those votes is higher on the chart?
Subject: Re: Question about voting
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Rice, thanks, I understand that part, but what I'm not clear on is if several votes are exactly the same, then what determines which of those votes is higher on the chart?
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Not 100% sure, but I think it's reverse alphabetical order by original title.
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Nope, just had a look at voting results for pacing and that's definitely not it. ???
Subject: Re: Question about voting
Melhi, We're sorry, but that's wrong. But thanks for playing "Guess how exact ties are treated in the 'amiright.com' vote rankings". I'd give you the 'Home Version', but I guess that's what all of us are doing. Anyway, my GUESS is that it's based on the DATES the parodies are entered, oldest get higher ranking, etc., at least until they go away (which they will do FIRST, due to the rules). But I didn't try to test it out. Just a guess...but I am curious now. WELL, I JUST TESTED IT OUT ON "5.00/17" AND "4.94/17" and I can tell you my speculation was INCORRECT (give me the "Home Version", too, please, I guess). So we are still out in the wilderness of this question. Anybody else got any bright ideas??
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Not 100% sure, but I think it's reverse alphabetical order by original title.
Modifying to add:
Nope, just had a look at voting results for pacing and that's definitely not it. ???
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Subject: Re: Question about voting
Hi guys,
Here's the voting system according to IMDb.com:
The formula for calculating the top 250 films gives a true Bayesian estimate:
weighted rank (WR) = (v ÷ (v+m)) × R + (m ÷ (v+m)) × C
where:
R = average for the movie (mean) = (Rating)
v = number of votes for the movie = (votes)
m = minimum votes required to be listed in the top 250 (currently 1250)
C = the mean vote across the whole report (currently 6.9)
note: for this top 250, only votes from regular voters are considered.
Subject: Re: Question about voting
This is AmIRight's voting schema:
A Note About Scoring:
Scores are tabulated daily. Scores are weighted. The more votes, and the better the votes, the better you do. Hence someone with a high score and few votes doesn't do as well as someone with a lot of votes and a lower score. I use a Bayesian estimate, which is the same grading system the IMDB.COM uses for it's top 250 movies listing.
This is from the voting results page that you can see on the left sidebar of AmIRight's main page. I believe that a parody must have a minimum of 10 votes to qualify for charting, but you'd have to ask the Emperor Penguin himself :)
Subject: Re: Question about voting
To Jan:
I can't answer your question, but I wanted to show that I think Chucky's rating system is fair and I don't see any bias for or against certain parodies. But maybe you saw something I didn't, I've never actually seen two parodies get the EXACT same votes, which would, by this system, tie them for the same spot on the charts.
Once again, I'm sure Chucky could answer it, but Watt and I have been submitting here for a while and we've always thought the voting and rating system to be fair.
Sorry I couldn't be more help :-/
Subject: Re: Question about voting
Thanks for the information :D. I'm not questioning if it is fair; I am absolutely certain it is. Right now four people have a score of (5.00/16) for pacing, so I was just curious about what determines the order they are listed. But no big deal.
Subject: Re: Question about voting
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Thanks for the information :D. I'm not questioning if it is fair; I am absolutely certain it is. Right now four people have a score of (5.00/16) for pacing, so I was just curious about what determines the order they are listed. But no big deal.
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Wow! That is pretty coincidentalish :)
Subject: Re: Question about voting
Jan & Rice, Yeah, the ties happen quite often, actually...at least in the WEEKLY voting stats. I guess we will have to await word from or inquire with Emperor Chucky for a definitive answer here. Although further speculation might be fun I'm all out of Speculatives to throw out there. I had wondered about it before but never enough to inquire. Yeah, everything on the site is fair enough as far as I'm concerned. I'm just real glad it's here at all so that we can show our stuff and get feedback to hone whatever skills we might have and so that we can read and enjoy the works of a lot of other really funny & talented folks.
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Thanks for the information :D. I'm not questioning if it is fair; I am absolutely certain it is. Right now four people have a score of (5.00/16) for pacing, so I was just curious about what determines the order they are listed. But no big deal.
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Subject: Re: Question about voting
the offical word about ties is, I have no idea. I guess it's alphabetical by some field, or maybe random. Technically, those people would be tied, but according to the database, it will save their actual position they received, (won't adjust and say tie for 2nd or something), so the author voting counts will be off a little.
I don't look at the top ten lists very often, so I wasn't even aware this was happening. I suppose I should try and figure out a fair way of scoring ties if this happens often. I'm pretty sure though, that'll take a decent amount of work to resolve (several areas would need to be adjusted).