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Subject: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: philbo_baggins on 01/08/04 at 10:24 a.m.


In all the parody competitions I’ve entered here at amiright, there’s been problems in the later stages as interest has waned with two or three contestants left.  I wouldn't mind running the next competition somewhat along these lines –

First round – open entry: anyone can submit a parody of their own.

Second and all subsequent rounds – these will be themed (precise themes to be decided at a later date, but themes for ALL rounds decided and advertised in advance before the competition starts: I’ve a few ideas, but probably not enough just yet).  The criterion for entry in all subsequent rounds is to vote on all the parodies from the previous round – i.e. there would need to be an entry form which contained a 1-5 voting schema for each of the entries in the previous round.

When the deadline date for round 2 passes, the votes for round one will be collated and points allocated as in F1 – 10 points first place, 8 second, then 6, 4, 3, 2 and 1 (if there are only a couple of parodies entered, then they’ll get lots of points!), and so on through the weeks – I’d guess having a round every two weeks might work best.

A running league table of authors will be kept – there is no compulsion to take part in every round, but if you do, you gain twice over: being able to vote your own parodies, and being more likely to get some points.  It also means that authors can join in mid-way, and have a chance of catching up if others lose interest.

Final round (say, the tenth round) votes would be open to anybody who had submitted a parody in any of the other rounds, as no parody would be required.

Extra interest could possibly be gained by highlighting the best-supported author (not necessarily the leader because of the points system), or pointing out how individual authors are voting their own vs other people’s parodies (but not showing exactly who voted how much for each parody).

The submission form would look something like this:

Round 1:
Theme: your parody this time should be to a tune by The Beatles
URL of your parody submission: xxxxx

Round 2..x-1:
Theme: your parody this time should be about the colour “green”

URL of your parody submission: xxxxx

ParodyAuthor12345
Parody title as linkAuthor nameOOOOO
Parody title as linkAuthor nameOOOOO
Parody title as linkAuthor nameOOOOO

(note links should pop-up in new window)


Scoresheet should look like this:

At the end of round X, the standings are:


AuthorNumber of entriesAverage ScoreTotal Points
Name 174.028
Name 244.518
Name 353.216

etc.

What do you guys think?

Any ideas for themes?  A theme could be either a subject for parodies, a particular original artist or even a specific song (think of the range of parodies done for supercalifragilisticexpialidocious or Bo Rap, for example).  There needs to be a range of easy and difficult themes.

I'll not be around till Monday, so have a think about it over the weekend...

Phil

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: Ethan Mawyer on 01/08/04 at 10:44 a.m.

sounds interesting even though i can't say i completely understand how this works but maybe it'll become more clear when it actually starts

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: S.T.G. on 01/08/04 at 12:38 a.m.

it seems confusing, but I would like to see it happen.

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: adagio on 01/09/04 at 08:58 a.m.

I'm with you too.  I'm sure it will clear up once the competition begins.

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: jreuben on 01/09/04 at 03:30 p.m.

I'm in.  I'm pulling for a beer category.

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: Johnny_D on 01/09/04 at 04:59 p.m.


Brainstorming some theme ideas....

(1) First, subjects/topics:

MEDICAL PROCEDURES (we already had "Rectal Exam Week")
STUPID HUMAN TRICKS
PET PEEVES
CONSPIRACY THEORIES
THINGS YOU FIND ON THE SIDEWALK
THINGS YOU FIND ON THE BEACH
THINGS THAT MAKE YOU ITCH
DOGS
CATS
WAYS TO ANNOY PEOPLE
PEOPLE WHO ARE ANNOYING
DOGS THAT ARE ANNOYING
CAR ALARMS
THE WEATHER
DIET FADS
FRATERNITY OR SORORITY HAZING
THINGS LITTLE KIDS SAY
TRYING TO GROW THE PERFECT LAWN
SHOPPING
HAGGLING WHEN BUYING A CAR
CHEATING ON EXAMS
HOW TO SUCCEED IN SCHOOL WITHOUT REALLY TRYING
HOW TO SUCCEED IN DATING WITHOUT REALLY TRYING
HOW TO SUCCEED, IN GENERAL, WITHOUT REALLY TRYING
SHORTCUTS AND TRICKS AND CLEVER WAYS TO BEAT THE SYSTEM

(2) Next, particular original artists...warning, warning, these are ideas comin' from a 45-year-old guy who's into the 60's/70's/80's/90's music primarily... you younger folks, come on, jump in here and let your voices be heard, too, please!

In absolutely NO particular order:

ELTON JOHN
BILLY JOEL
STING
REM
THE GRATEFUL DEAD
THE BEATLES
ELVIS PRESLEY
ELVIS COSTELLO
DEVO
BLONDIE
THE GO-GO'S
THE B-52'S
VARIOUS MOVIE SOUNDTRACKS
VARIOUS BROADWAY SHOW TUNES
VARIOUS TELEVISION SHOW TUNES
THE MOODY BLUES
THE FOUR TOPS
THE TEMPTATIONS
FOREIGNER
LED ZEPPELIN
YES
REO SPEEDWAGON (their name is so stupid, it's hilarious)
BOB DYLAN
ARLO GUTHRIE
PETER, PAUL, AND MARY
THE ASSOCIATION
THE BEACH BOYS
JAN AND DEAN
DURAN DURAN
J GEILS BAND
THE ALLMAN BROTHERS
THE DOOBIE BROTHERS
THE EAGLES
TALKING HEADS
CROSBY STILLS NASH ( & YOUNG )
JEFFERSON AIRPLANE / JEFFERSON STARSHIP
ROY ORBISON
GEORGE HARRISON
PAUL MCCARTNEY
JOHN LENNON
RINGO STARR
THE ROLLING STONES
VARIOUS BRITISH INVASION/MERSEY-BEAT GROUPS

(3) And possible specific songs:

SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIUS (Mary Poppins) or however you spell that crazy word...perhaps the rule could be that you are not permitted to use anything that rhymes with that word, or that begins with "SUPER", but it must have the same exact pacing as that word (i.e. number of syllables and rhythm)

BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY (Queen) (Oh Mama Mia, Mama Mia, Mama Mia, not again!)....this one has been done SO much by SO many people, myself included, that perhaps the rule could be that you are not permitted to use ANY WORDS FROM THE ORIGINAL SONG, AT ALL.

STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN (Led Zeppelin).....again, perhaps the rule could be that you are not permitted to use ANY WORDS FROM THE ORIGINAL SONG, AT ALL.

LOSING MY RELIGION (REM)

BLACK MAGIC WOMAN (Santana)

CITY OF NEW ORLEANS (Arlo Guthrie)

THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND (Woody Guthrie, Pete Seeger)

CHIM CHIM CHER-EE (Mary Poppins)

A WHITER SHADE OF PALE (Procul Harum)

HELP (The Beatles)

EIGHT DAYS A WEEK (The Beatles)

FOOL ON THE HILL (The Beatles)

I GET BY WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS (The Beatles)

NIGHTS IN WHITE SATIN (The Moody Blues)

MOONDANCE (Van Morrison)

BREAK ON THROUGH TO THE OTHER SIDE (The Doors)

LIGHT MY FIRE (The Doors)

WHIP IT (Devo)

JOCKO HOMO (Devo)

IN CARS (Gary Neuman)

PSYCHO KILLER (Talking Heads)

LIFE DURING WARTIME (Talking Heads) - this one could be extremely difficult

BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE (Talking Heads)

TAKE ME TO THE RIVER (Talking Heads)

HAMMER AND A NAIL (Indigo Girls)

VENTURA HIGHWAY (America)

SISTER GOLDEN HAIR (America)

TIN MAN (America)

And ..... of course ......

AMERICAN PIE (Don McLean)







Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: Johnny_D on 01/09/04 at 05:10 p.m.


Quoting:

Brainstorming some theme ideas....

(1) First, subjects/topics:

MEDICAL PROCEDURES (we already had "Rectal Exam Week")
STUPID HUMAN TRICKS
PET PEEVES
CONSPIRACY THEORIES
THINGS YOU FIND ON THE SIDEWALK
THINGS YOU FIND ON THE BEACH
THINGS THAT MAKE YOU ITCH
DOGS
CATS
WAYS TO ANNOY PEOPLE
PEOPLE WHO ARE ANNOYING
DOGS THAT ARE ANNOYING
CAR ALARMS
THE WEATHER
DIET FADS
FRATERNITY OR SORORITY HAZING
THINGS LITTLE KIDS SAY
TRYING TO GROW THE PERFECT LAWN
SHOPPING
HAGGLING WHEN BUYING A CAR
CHEATING ON EXAMS
HOW TO SUCCEED IN SCHOOL WITHOUT REALLY TRYING
HOW TO SUCCEED IN DATING WITHOUT REALLY TRYING
HOW TO SUCCEED, IN GENERAL, WITHOUT REALLY TRYING
SHORTCUTS AND TRICKS AND CLEVER WAYS TO BEAT THE SYSTEM

(2) Next, particular original artists...warning, warning, these are ideas comin' from a 45-year-old guy who's into the 60's/70's/80's/90's music primarily... you younger folks, come on, jump in here and let your voices be heard, too, please!

In absolutely NO particular order:

ELTON JOHN
BILLY JOEL
STING
REM
THE GRATEFUL DEAD
THE BEATLES
ELVIS PRESLEY
ELVIS COSTELLO
DEVO
BLONDIE
THE GO-GO'S
THE B-52'S
VARIOUS MOVIE SOUNDTRACKS
VARIOUS BROADWAY SHOW TUNES
VARIOUS TELEVISION SHOW TUNES
THE MOODY BLUES
THE FOUR TOPS
THE TEMPTATIONS
FOREIGNER
LED ZEPPELIN
YES
REO SPEEDWAGON (their name is so stupid, it's hilarious)
BOB DYLAN
ARLO GUTHRIE
PETER, PAUL, AND MARY
THE ASSOCIATION
THE BEACH BOYS
JAN AND DEAN
DURAN DURAN
J GEILS BAND
THE ALLMAN BROTHERS
THE DOOBIE BROTHERS
THE EAGLES
TALKING HEADS
CROSBY STILLS NASH ( & YOUNG )
JEFFERSON AIRPLANE / JEFFERSON STARSHIP
ROY ORBISON
GEORGE HARRISON
PAUL MCCARTNEY
JOHN LENNON
RINGO STARR
THE ROLLING STONES
VARIOUS BRITISH INVASION/MERSEY-BEAT GROUPS

(3) And possible specific songs:

SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIUS (Mary Poppins) or however you spell that crazy word...perhaps the rule could be that you are not permitted to use anything that rhymes with that word, or that begins with "SUPER", but it must have the same exact pacing as that word (i.e. number of syllables and rhythm)

BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY (Queen) (Oh Mama Mia, Mama Mia, Mama Mia, not again!)....this one has been done SO much by SO many people, myself included, that perhaps the rule could be that you are not permitted to use ANY WORDS FROM THE ORIGINAL SONG, AT ALL.

STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN (Led Zeppelin).....again, perhaps the rule could be that you are not permitted to use ANY WORDS FROM THE ORIGINAL SONG, AT ALL.

LOSING MY RELIGION (REM)

BLACK MAGIC WOMAN (Santana)

CITY OF NEW ORLEANS (Arlo Guthrie)

THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND (Woody Guthrie, Pete Seeger)

CHIM CHIM CHER-EE (Mary Poppins)

A WHITER SHADE OF PALE (Procul Harum)

HELP (The Beatles)

EIGHT DAYS A WEEK (The Beatles)

FOOL ON THE HILL (The Beatles)

I GET BY WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS (The Beatles)

NIGHTS IN WHITE SATIN (The Moody Blues)

MOONDANCE (Van Morrison)

BREAK ON THROUGH TO THE OTHER SIDE (The Doors)

LIGHT MY FIRE (The Doors)

WHIP IT (Devo)

JOCKO HOMO (Devo)

IN CARS (Gary Neuman)

PSYCHO KILLER (Talking Heads)

LIFE DURING WARTIME (Talking Heads) - this one could be extremely difficult

BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE (Talking Heads)

TAKE ME TO THE RIVER (Talking Heads)

HAMMER AND A NAIL (Indigo Girls)

VENTURA HIGHWAY (America)

SISTER GOLDEN HAIR (America)

TIN MAN (America)

And ..... of course ......

AMERICAN PIE (Don McLean)








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QUICK NOTE of explanation - when I say that a rule could be that you are not allowed to use any words from the original song at all, I don't mean literally that you can't use, for example, the word "the" if the original song contains the word "the" .... what I mean is that you can't have words in your parody that are the same words in the same place as they appear in the original song (except for simple words like "the" and prepositions, etc).  

Example:  If you were doing a parody of Bo Rap, you would not be allowed to replace "Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth" with "Gotta leave your balls behind the plate, Babe Ruth", but you would be allowed to replace it with "Gonna cleave your ball-peen mind with laced vermouth".

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: Mike_Florio on 01/10/04 at 10:20 p.m.

Ill do it...I need work! ;D

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: Jack_Wilson on 01/11/04 at 05:08 p.m.

Ill do it too, sounds fun!!!!! ;D

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: philbo_baggins on 01/12/04 at 03:50 a.m.

Maybe I went too far into the detail: it'll be obvious how it works once it's running.

To summarize, there'll be no elimination - a Formula One-type scoring based on who "wins" each round

Also, there will be no separate judges: the criterion for entry in all except the first round will be to vote for all the songs in the previous round.

I've got very little time at the moment to get it moving, so I thought I'd put this up as a bit of a flyer to get some ideas in: I'd like to have the format completely sorted before starting, so everyone knows what's coming.

Firstly - how many rounds do you think we should have?  I'd suggest either 10, 13 or even a full F1 19 rounds (though maybe that is a few too many)...

Phil

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: ChuckyG on 01/13/04 at 09:58 a.m.


Quoting:
Maybe I went too far into the detail: it'll be obvious how it works once it's running.

To summarize, there'll be no elimination - a Formula One-type scoring based on who "wins" each round

Also, there will be no separate judges: the criterion for entry in all except the first round will be to vote for all the songs in the previous round.

I've got very little time at the moment to get it moving, so I thought I'd put this up as a bit of a flyer to get some ideas in: I'd like to have the format completely sorted before starting, so everyone knows what's coming.

Firstly - how many rounds do you think we should have?  I'd suggest either 10, 13 or even a full F1 19 rounds (though maybe that is a few too many)...

Phil
End Quote



Having read both this and the inital explanation, I have to say, it looks like an interesting way of doing things. You mention that people can vote their own parody, but I don't think that's a very good idea, since most people are just going to give themselves a high score (if the person didn't think it was good, why would they submit it?).  

I like the idea that the people writing the parodies are also the only ones voting, it lessens the impact of people trying to game the votes by using bogus email accounts, or getting their friends to send in votes, etc.

I think 10 rounds is a good round number. It also wouldn't heavily penalize people who miss a week for one reason or
another.

Depending on the number of entries, it may be time consuming for the person running it, to tally the votes each week.

If this gets off the ground, make sure whoever is running it, submits each weeks posting to the news section of the front page of amiright so people know about it.

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: philbo_baggins on 01/14/04 at 05:22 a.m.


Quoting:
Depending on the number of entries, it may be time consuming for the person running it, to tally the votes each week.
End Quote


My intention was to write something to do it for me... in theory this would be completely automated - I will probably end up doing a simple email form and write something to parse the incoming emails; also automatic generation of the HTML for the subsequent week's submissions.

wrt the voting side of things, yes, people will probably vote their own ones highly - this will be the same for everyone, so it'll even out, and will be a spur to ensure you enter every round.  Besides, it'll be easier to write that way ;-)

Phil

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: Wolveroses on 01/15/04 at 09:31 a.m.

I just submitted a song for all this mess

Original: Beatles / Yesterday
Parody: Wolveroses / Just Last Year

I'll leave the link when it's up.

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: Ethan Mawyer on 01/15/04 at 10:20 a.m.

i'm not sure but i think the beatles first round thing was just an example and we won't know wha the 1st round is until we know what all the rounds are... if i'm wrong then i really should get started writing a beatles parody

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: philbo_baggins on 01/15/04 at 12:27 a.m.

You're right, Ethan - I'm not starting anything just yet.  I want to be able to get submission forms worked out, for a start (basically, I want to cut down my admin workload), but I thought I'd float the idea first.

Phil

Subject: Re: A New Year's Parody Competition

Written By: Wolveroses on 01/16/04 at 01:34 p.m.

ok well maybe i misunderstood you, i submitted the parody anyways, here it is

http://www.amiright.com/parody/60s/beatles160.shtml

is there is a change I guess I could write another, after all, it will put another song onto mylist:)