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Subject: Parodies with author names in them
http://www.amiright.com/parody/60s/thesurfaris0.shtml
I started a discussion on this parody about my feelings of parodies about other parody authors. I generally frown on parodies that attack other parody authors, but have been letting more friendly parodies go through lately.
However, I think it makes the site a little too clique-ish, and a little intimidating to new visitors. I'm not sure if people who don't visit the site regularly (or new visitors) get any kind of value out of parodies like this. They also tend to encourage other authors to vote them higher than they would other parodies.
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
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I think it makes the site a little too clique-ish, and a little intimidating to new visitors. I'm not sure if people who don't visit the site regularly (or new visitors) get any kind of value out of parodies like this. They also tend to encourage other authors to vote them higher than they would other parodies.
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Hmm… just my 47 cents here:
One mans (or womans) subject of fun is always someone elses subject of flinch. And because of that it´s probably impossible to have a rule against subjects that turns away people that comes to the site the ”wrong” way. Even those who come to a parody the like might get the wrong first impression for various reasons.
I know, because I was one of them. I been writing parodies in my own language for a couple of years, long before I started submitting here sometime early this year, but I was actually in first contact with this site more than two, possibly three years ago, after having folled a link that a friend provived. Now that link lead to a (probably) William Tong parody about Bush. And I laughed at it and enjoyed it. And checked for more. But after having read (and enjoyed) more parodies on the same subject I left the site without bookmarking it, because I had gotten the impression that it was a political site. A mistake I didn´t realize until I came back much later and got another, fuller and more correct impression.
I don´t know how to avoid such things. And I don´t wanna see either political parodies or name-dropping parodies taken away. Maybe the idea I submitted earlier, in some thread I can´t refind now, about having a sort of category marking/sorting of parodies done already in/on the submission page could be useful.
Or maybe the 5-scale could be set to just a 4-scale for namedropping parodies. That´ll keep them out of the Top 10, if that is what you want, but will not take away the other fun with writing and reading them for those who find the subject ”musing”. :-)
That said: Everyone, look out for my ”Malcolm Higgins wrote to M” parody tomorrow. :-)
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
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They also tend to encourage other authors to vote them higher than they would other parodies.
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im not sure that the parody of whip out could have been voted lower than a five lol
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
I always enjoy searching author parodies for my name, and seeing what people say about me. That said, from the perspective of someone else looking at the site (especially the top 10 lists), seeing one of these getting the most votes would be confusing. In my opinion, other well written parodies are better than author parodies because they touch more of an audience.
I don't know. I like to see them, but maybe they could be separated somehow?
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
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I always enjoy searching author parodies for my name, and seeing what people say about me. That said, from the perspective of someone else looking at the site (especially the top 10 lists), seeing one of these getting the most votes would be confusing. In my opinion, other well written parodies are better than author parodies because they touch more of an audience.
I don't know. I like to see them, but maybe they could be separated somehow?
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They could be separated by posting them on this board instead. Good idea? Bad idea? Allowed? Disallowed? I'd much rather if I'd submitted mine on this board... but, it either wasn't here, yet, or I just didn't think of it.
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
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That said: Everyone, look out for my ”Malcolm Higgins wrote to M” parody tomorrow. :-)
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Here it is, though it is from yesterday now. ;-)
http://www.amiright.com/parody/misc/traditional294.shtml
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
Question.....what do you think of it when parodies about AmIRight drop names? I mean I did this......well, because certain people are something of pillars of AmIRight.....not just through the number of parodies....but because they're so funny.
I was thinking of doing a parody about a specific author......but I'm not so sure.....all I'll say is that there's a certain author who's first name means the name of a Prince song in another language.......so it would be to the tune of that Prince song! But maybe it ain't a good idea.....
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
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http://www.amiright.com/parody/60s/thesurfaris0.shtml
I started a discussion on this parody about my feelings of parodies about other parody authors. I generally frown on parodies that attack other parody authors, but have been letting more friendly parodies go through lately.
However, I think it makes the site a little too clique-ish, and a little intimidating to new visitors. I'm not sure if people who don't visit the site regularly (or new visitors) get any kind of value out of parodies like this. They also tend to encourage other authors to vote them higher than they would other parodies.
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8) 8)Parodies about other authorsd wouldn't bother me,but I don't think people would vote them higher just because it has the name of an author in them.If someone reading them diesn't know the person,they probable wouldn't gt it and rate it any highr.CVheers!
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
ChuckyG (and others) - I didn't get onto the site until November 10th...after this note and discussion occurred and wasn't even aware of the messageboard area until just a few days ago. I did see a couple remarks on the regular parody "Comments" referencing this topic and realized I had been somewhat guilty, albeit with good intent (cheering up an ill colleague and such). However, since being made aware I've tried to steer clear and I agree in general with the sentiment. I might occasionally make a post with Author references from this point on but I keep it in mind that it shouldn't be a regular staple of my repetoire. I'm taking a little time to look over this MessageBoard area to soak in the flavor and make some comments today.
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
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ChuckyG (and others) - I didn't get onto the site until November 10th...after this note and discussion occurred and wasn't even aware of the messageboard area until just a few days ago. I did see a couple remarks on the regular parody "Comments" referencing this topic and realized I had been somewhat guilty, albeit with good intent (cheering up an ill colleague and such). However, since being made aware I've tried to steer clear and I agree in general with the sentiment. I might occasionally make a post with Author references from this point on but I keep it in mind that it shouldn't be a regular staple of my repetoire. I'm taking a little time to look over this MessageBoard area to soak in the flavor and make some comments today.
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Well, I don't do anything to discourage it. At the time I wrote that, I think there was 5 out of maybe 35 parodies in one day that were about other parody authors, and I was a little distressed about it.
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
I'm completely with you Chuckie. The first time I saw my name in a tribute, I got all tickled because someone cared enough, and I voted big for it. Later, it bothered me, especially when I learned about the top vote list. None of my parodies are about other writers or the site, and I haven't run out of ideas yet. Mari and I did a musical tribute, but that was using original funny stuff people had written that was not "in". (Though we noticed voting for us went up afterwards, we're glad we got the notice without actually name-dropping) I think what 2nz does is great, that's what this messageboard is about. My criteria for a good parody is "What would a crowd of strangers think?" (Adult strangers in some cases)They sure wouldn't understand "The Amiright Polka" or whatever.
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
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...I think it makes the site a little too clique-ish, and a little intimidating to new visitors. End Quote
Yes - just a little bit more.
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
no offense to anyone...but putting in some one else's name is nothing more than a cheap hit...and no offense to Bob, but I really thought that "White out," was possibly the worst song I had read all year. Does this change my opinion on Bob Gomez? No, not at all, I still believe that he is a good parody writer. I mean, its not even the fact that my name isn't mentioned in it, because that I really dont care about, its just that, as Chuck put it, its too cliche-ish. I tend to look the other way when the awards start.
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
Some authors whose names are NOT mentioned in an "in-crowd" parody will undoubtedly feel left out, which is the reason that I don't write them and don't vote on them. And my name HAS been mentioned in a few. I think that some are well written, and by writers that I like. Also on my "no-no" list are songs having to do with voting, but look how popular they are (see the current #1).
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
One of the things about being a parody writer is that you are inspired by what goes on around you. That is naturally going to include this website. On my favorite political site, I am known for political parodies and sometimes posting "in" parodies. I wrote a parody dissing a poster nicknamed "Tizzy" to the tune of Tommy Roe's "Dizzy." It worked great on that site, because everybody knew the guy - he was a major annoyance. But that is not a site dedicated to parody. I think such things are less effective here - though they may give the regulars a chuckle. Several parodies have occurred to me about the voting or individual authors. I don't bother to write them, though, because they absolutely would not work outside of this forum. Further, I have written a lot of parodies I do NOT post on amiright because the subject matter is specialized. "Thank Gosh I'm a Mormon Boy" drew rave reviews when I sang it at a church function, but most folks here wouldn't get the jokes. In fact, most probably wouldn't even bother to read it. Nobody who comes to this site early on is going to bother to read an "in" parody. Even political parodies (a real staple in the field) get less notice here than pop-culture fun like "Flintstone-ian Rhapsody." That's because, heaven forbid, some people are bored by politics! OTOH, it's hard not to want to write parodies on the prowess of Malcolm Higgins and William Tong, or the frustration of being targetted by the "ones guy." And there is a tendency to want to pat yourself on the back when you reach a personal milestone. (One wonders if Mr. Tong will acknowledge his next parody as reaching the four-figure mark.) But I just think it's a little cheesy to write a "Hey, I just made it to twenty five" parody. Just Pooch's two cents on the subject.
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
I've been here since May, but I still don't know what the amiright polka is. Would someone tell me, please?
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
I made that up, Adagio. I didn't want to point out one specific work, and was tossing in a subtle Yankovic bone. Besides, I figure it's just a matter of time.
Subject: Re: Parodies with author names in them
Thanks, Rick. My point also was that I have been here almost a year and still didn't know what was being talked about. Must be an inside, inside thing, if you know what I mean.