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Subject: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/03/08 at 12:31 am

In the 1980s pop music artists started using "samples" in their music.  Samples in this context are excerpts of sounds or speech from other media, such as films, television programs, political speeches, as well as other pieces of music.  These are most prevalent in industrial, electronica, and hip-hop, but some rock and pop groups use them as well.

Examples:

"What were the skies like when you were young? They ran on forever. They... When I... We lived in Arizona and the skies always had little fluffy clouds in them. And uh... They were long and clear and there were lots of stars at night. And uh... When it would rain it would all turn... It... They were beautiful, the most beautiful skies as a matter of fact. Uh... The sunsets were purple and red and yellow and on fire and the clouds would catch the colors everywhere. That's neat 'cause I used to look at them all the time when I was little. You don't see that. ...You might still see it in the desert. "
--The Orb, "Little Fluffy Clouds," 1991.  Source: Rickie Lee Jones being interviewed on PBS

"You'll forgive me if I don't stay around to watch. I just can't cope with the freaky stuff... "
--Skinny Puppy, "Draining Faces," 1985.  Source: Actor Leslie Carlson in David Cronenberg's "Videodrome."

"Like it or not, we live in times of danger and uncertainty."
--Ani DiFranco, "Joyful Girl (Danger and Uncertainty Mix" 1996. Source: Ted Kennedy at RFK's eulogy, 1968.

"Did you know, Putnam, more people are murdered at ninety two degrees Fahrenheit than any other temperature? I read an article once - lower temperatures people are easy-going, over ninety two it's too hot to move, but just ninety two, people get irritable!"
--Siouxsie and the Banshees, "92 Degrees," 1986. Source: Actor Charles Drake (as Sheriff Matt Warren) in the film "It Came from Outer Space," 1953.

"They said I was a hippie; I wasn't a hippie, I was a beatnik!"
--Cabaret Voltaire, "Whip Blow" 1985  Source: Charles Manson

"What's the matter Eddie, does it frighten you?
Does it frighten me? No, Frank, I think 'startled' is a better word."
--Ministry, "Just Like You," 1985  Source: (No clue, I wish somebody could tell me!)

Of course, artists have been adding "samples" to the mix at dating back at least to the 1960s.  Songs such as the Beatles' "I Am the Walrus" and "7 O'Clock News/Silent Night" by Simon and Garfunkel used tapes from other sources, they just weren't called "samples."  The concept itself goes back to 1948 when Pierre Schaeffer developed musique concrete method with reel-to-reel tape.  Some music wonks would argue the earliest ancester of sampling was the Futurist Luigi Russolo in the 1910s (I don't, I say it's Pierre Schaeffer). 

The problem with sampling is the artists rarely credit the source leaving the listener wondering where it came from.

What are your favorite samples? Do you know their sources?  If not, maybe somebody else does.  That's what this thread is all about!


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Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 01/03/08 at 3:48 am

I am not a fan of sampling in music. It just seems like there's a lack of creative songwriting on one's own, it seem's so unoriginal. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like they slip in some other person's lyrics into their song to fill in the gaps. There's a song that samples The Police "Every Breath I Take"  but now i can't remember if it's Sting or the samplers singing his song  ??? 

one nice piece of sampling that I do like is at the beginning of the song "Civil War" by Gun's N' Roses with the speech by the warden in the movie Cool Hand Luke...

"What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men"

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: KKay on 01/03/08 at 8:41 am

In "Screen Kiss" by Thomas Dolby actor Ed Asner says, "murder".

I don't mind sampling, as long as the artists agree and it's used to complliment not to make fun of someone.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Henk on 01/03/08 at 1:31 pm

"You don't have to say anything, and you don't have to do anything.(...). Oh, maybe just whistle. You know how to whistle, don't you? You just put your lips together and... blow."

From: To Have and Have Not (1944), starring Humphrey Bogart & Lauren Bacall.

This quote was used by Les Adams in his 1988 song "Check This Out" (under his alias L.A. Mix). Quote starts after 1:05. Note: The video is not the actual video.


The song features numerous other samples & quotes, btw...Feel free to name 'em.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/03/08 at 7:43 pm


I am not a fan of sampling in music. It just seems like there's a lack of creative songwriting on one's own, it seem's so unoriginal. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like they slip in some other person's lyrics into their song to fill in the gaps. There's a song that samples The Police "Every Breath I Take"   but now i can't remember if it's Sting or the samplers singing his song  ???   


It depends on how it's used.  Some composers make electronic music using a "palate" of sound sources.  John Oswald calls his style "Plunderphonics," whereas Noah Creshevsky uses the term "Hyperrealism."  It's not sampling, though, it's composition.  I don't think what P. Diddy did counts as sampling.  He made a new arrangement of "Every Breath You Take" and threw in some new lyrics.  It did irk me when ASCAP awarded Diddy songwriter of the year twice consecutively.  He's not a songwriter, he's what we used to call an "arranger," which was a legitimate part of the process, but it was not "writing" per se. 

"If you cut off my head, what would I say... Me and my head, or me and my body? What right has my head to call itself me? "
--Skinny Puppy, The Choke, 1986  Source: Roman Polanski as Trelkovsky in "The Tenant" (1976)

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: HawkTheSlayer on 01/04/08 at 12:07 am

More examples-

"It's worked so far, but we're not out yet."- "Bones" McCoy
"Pure energy."- Spock

(Both from Tell Me What's On Your Mind (Pure Energy)", from Information Society)

Then there's the snip of Kennedy's "Ask Not What Your Conutry Can Do For You" speech, as heard in Living Colour's "Cult Of Personality".

Some people have asked if Styx used some weird backward voice sample on their song, "Heavy Metal Poisoning". This also led to them being accused by CA. Legislature of 1984 as "using backward Satanic messages".

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 01/04/08 at 12:20 am


I am not a fan of sampling in music. It just seems like there's a lack of creative songwriting on one's own, it seem's so unoriginal. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like they slip in some other person's lyrics into their song to fill in the gaps. There's a song that samples The Police "Every Breath I Take"  but now i can't remember if it's Sting or the samplers singing his song  ??? 

one nice piece of sampling that I do like is at the beginning of the song "Civil War" by Gun's N' Roses with the speech by the warden in the movie Cool Hand Luke...

"What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men"


As Maxwell has pointed out, we're talking more about the second type of sampling (your GnR example) than the first.  There's no gain in trying to (poorly) copy someone else.  There's great gain in taking something someone else did and turning it into something new. 

The canonical example would be Pop Will Eat Itself.  If you ever danced to some weird song with a chorus of "Big Mac, Fries to Go!", you were actually listening to PWEI's Def.Con.One. 

The link I've given only lists 11 samples/lyrical references for the track, and at least one error - the preacher on "Preaching to the Perverts" was Robison, not Falwell.  Off the top of my head, he missed "...we're at Defcon one" and "Confidence is high, repeat, confidence is high..." are from the movie War Games, and I'm pretty sure that "Vote Doctor Doom!" "You know it makes sense" "It's the only choice" was from a Spider-Man cartoon.  The most complete list I can find is here.

Tracking down obscure samples is a hobby of mine, and I really miss rec.music.industrial's old "Top 1119 sample sources" lists that stopped being maintained/mirrored on sloth.org around 2004.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Badfinger-fan on 01/04/08 at 12:37 am


It depends on how it's used.  Some composers make electronic music using a "palate" of sound sources.  John Oswald calls his style "Plunderphonics," whereas Noah Creshevsky uses the term "Hyperrealism."  It's not sampling, though, it's composition.  I don't think what P. Diddy did counts as sampling.  He made a new arrangement of "Every Breath You Take" and threw in some new lyrics.  It did irk me when ASCAP awarded Diddy songwriter of the year twice consecutively.  He's not a songwriter, he's what we used to call an "arranger," which was a legitimate part of the process, but it was not "writing" per se. 

"If you cut off my head, what would I say... Me and my head, or me and my body? What right has my head to call itself me? "
--Skinny Puppy, The Choke, 1986  Source: Roman Polanski as Trelkovsky in "The Tenant" (1976)

what Diddy did? what did Diddy do?  that hurts just to say that.  songwriter of the year?  arrggg!  awards like that just become more diluted with time.


As Maxwell has pointed out, we're talking more about the second type of sampling (your GnR example) than the first.  There's no gain in trying to (poorly) copy someone else.  There's great gain in taking something someone else did and turning it into something new. 

The canonical example would be Pop Will Eat Itself.  If you ever danced to some weird song with a chorus of "Big Mac, Fries to Go!", you were actually listening to PWEI's Def.Con.One. 

The link I've given only lists 11 samples/lyrical references for the track, and at least one error - the preacher on "Preaching to the Perverts" was Robison, not Falwell.  Off the top of my head, he missed "...we're at Defcon one" and "Confidence is high, repeat, confidence is high..." are from the movie War Games, and I'm pretty sure that "Vote Doctor Doom!" "You know it makes sense" "It's the only choice" was from a Spider-Man cartoon.  The most complete list I can find is here.

Tracking down obscure samples is a hobby of mine, and I really miss rec.music.industrial's old "Top 1119 sample sources" lists that stopped being maintained/mirrored on sloth.org around 2004.
I had no idea this was an art form and a genre.  I can see how that would be fun and addicting to get into.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: KKay on 01/04/08 at 9:52 am


In "Screen Kiss" by Thomas Dolby actor Ed Asner says, "murder".

I don't mind sampling, as long as the artists agree and it's used to complliment not to make fun of someone.


That's not the right song...I can't remember which one.
Also, Robyn Hitchock did a short voiceover for Dolby on the record "the flat earth"

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: agrimorfee on 01/04/08 at 9:53 am

Mr. Bungle utilizes dialogue from David Lynch's "Blue Velvet" in "Squeeze Me Macaroni"

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: agrimorfee on 01/04/08 at 4:39 pm

Two "bands" who almost completely have utilized voice samples in their work as political and socialogical satirical statements are Negativland and EBN (aka 'Emergency Broadcast Network').

I use the term "band" in quotes, because both are in reality a collective of sound artists and radio production engineers who, while not quite musically proficient, use music to make their usually funny statements heard. Negativland is more infamous for their controversial "U2" single, which featured warped versions of "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For"--featuring an unauthorized recording of famed disc jockey Casey Kasem ranting in the studio, prompting both Kasem and U2's label Island Records to sue Negativland's record company.

Learn and hear more about Negativland here: http://www.negativland.com/
Learn more about EBN here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Broadcast_Network

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/04/08 at 8:35 pm

Negativland is one of my favorites, especially "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" w/ Raging Casey.
;D


"I'm sick and tired of hearing about all of the radicals, and the perverts, and the liberals, and the leftists, and the Communists coming out of the closet! It's time for God's people to come out of the closet, out of the churches, and change America! We must do it!"

--The Shamen, Jesus Loves Amerika (1988)  Source: James Robison, a funnymentalist preacher, 1980.

This one is great because you can hear his fist slam the podium when says "GOD'S people."

There are a bunch of Evangelical snippets in the song with sources I can't identify. (eg. Marx, Lenin, un-Christian, immoral!  De-de-de-death penalty! Righteous! Freedom, freedom, freedom!")  If you listen close at the end of the 12" mix, you can hear in the mix: "Bullsh*t! Liberal ass**le!"

Fundamentalist preachers/right-wing politicians are a favorite source for samples.  Perhaps the earliest was David Byrne and Brian Eno on the album "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts."  Examples:

"Talkin' funny and lookin' funny and talkin' bout nobody loves me, you make yourself look bad!  He'p me somebody!  You need to take a good look at yourself and SEE if you're the kind of person God wants you to be!  It's no big thing, it's a small thing what people think... There's no escape from it!  It's so high you can't get over it!  It's so low you can't get under it! It's so wide you can't get around it!  If you make your bed in HEAVEN He's there, if you make your bed in HELL He's there, He's EVERYWHERE!"  He'p me somebody...."

--Song: Help Me Somebody  Source: Rev. Paul Morton, broadcast sermon, New Orleans, 1980

"What he said, he said I'm sorry, I've made a mistake, I've committed a sin, he mada mea culpa."
-- Song:  Mea Culpa  Source: Unknown politician on the radio, New York City radio station July 1979

Unlike subsequent sampling artists, Byrne and Eno credited as best they could the sources in the album sleeve. 

"Mea Culpa" also appears in the movie "Wall Street" (1987), along with the Talking Heads' song "This Must be the Place (Naive Melody)."

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 01/06/08 at 1:01 am


"I'm sick and tired of hearing about all of the radicals, and the perverts, and the liberals, and the leftists, and the Communists coming out of the closet! It's time for God's people to come out of the closet, out of the churches, and change America! We must do it!"

--The Shamen, Jesus Loves Amerika (1988)  Source: James Robison, a funnymentalist preacher, 1980.


Ah, yeah, James Robison, and the rant was called "Wake up, America! We're All Hostages!" according to "Born Again Condescension", a USENET post I've dredged up from 1983.  Having now seen the entire quote, it's a shame nobody's used the last bit of it.  I guess that last bit about God raising up a tyrant was too tinfoil-hat-loony for even industrial musicians, at least back in the 80s :)

Anways, Robison's rant is a classic. It's also the centerpiece of Birmingham 6's Radicals (1994).  (Same portion as used by the Shamen, but ending at "and change America")

It's also briefly sampled in PWEI's Preaching to the Perverted (1989) -- "The perverts!"(loop)"The perverts!" and "coming out of the closet!" at around the 2:30 mark, immediately before the verse that begins with "This isn't love, it's just cheap entertainment...")


There are a bunch of Evangelical snippets in the song with sources I can't identify.


Back to the Shamen and Jesus Loves Amerika.
"There's no virtue in being poor.  Make money.  Succeed."
- I don't know who this guy is, but I think he's one of the earliest funders/founders of what's become the modern "Prosperity Gospel" cult. The biggest player in this market today is Joel Osteen.  If you Wiki your way back from Osteen and the PG cult, you'll eventually find its roots, and it's probably one of them. PG's a relatively recent phenomenon, and it was in its infancy in the 80s, so there aren't gonna be many sources that date back far enough to be sampled in 1988.

"Over a billion dollars voluntarily contributed to conservative religious leaders."
- This could be Pat Robertson or Bush I.  I'm probably wrong.  Sounds like it came out of a news show/interview.

Sorry, I don't recognize any of the other voices. 

Perhaps the earliest was David Byrne and Brian Eno on the album "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts."  Examples:

"Talkin' funny and lookin' funny and talkin' bout nobody loves me, you make yourself look bad!  He'p me somebody!  You need to take a good look at yourself and SEE if you're the kind of person God wants you to be!  It's no big thing, it's a small thing what people think... There's no escape from it!  It's so high you can't get over it!  It's so low you can't get under it! It's so wide you can't get around it!  If you make your bed in HEAVEN He's there, if you make your bed in HELL He's there, He's EVERYWHERE!"  He'p me somebody...."

--Song: Help Me Somebody  Source: Rev. Paul Morton, broadcast sermon, New Orleans, 1980


I don't have the Byrne/Eno track -- but that language sounds familiar.  Was it a very guttural, gritty voice with a black accent?  Occasional bursts into Howard-Dean-YEAAAAAARGHesque incoherency?  Background noises of applause and cheering?  Either of these samples ring a bell?

"What's the difference between a little lie and a big lie?" "Ain't nothin' wrong with that, ain't nothin' wrong with this..." "He don't know what he's talkin' about" / "Oh yeah, heaven on earth. Ain't no heaven on earth!"  "Come on down!"  "You ain't got nothin' but looooooooooove"?
  - Unknown preacher, Gary Clail's Tackhead Sound System, Mind at the End of the Tether, 1986

If you know the Gary Clail / Tackhead track -- is that Morton?  I've been wondering who this guy was for 20 years :)

"H.G. Wells said in his last book 'Mind at the end of the Tether', that this is the end.  He said there will never be another generation.  And today - fears, problems, bewilderments, on every side, and almost, we could say, a sense of hysteria." (all mixes) "They were living in idolatry, wickedness, lawlessness, immorality, sin, licentiousness..." (12" mix only)  "This has been an age of Freud, an age of pragmatism, behaviorism, relativism, secularism, materialism, an age when all the mphasis has been on the ingenuity of science!" (all mixes) "I am convinced that our time is desperately short... we may not have any more time!  Our time is now!  Our time is now!  Is there a way out!  Is there a way out!"  (all mixes) "Judgment!  Destruction!  Morally, this nation is on the skids" (all mixes) "Our nation is on the way down..." (12" vinyl mix only)
    - Unknown preacher, Gary Clail's Tackhead Sound System, Mind at the End of the Tether, 1986

Been wondering who this guy is too.  He sounds vaguely like Robison, but not close enough that I'd bet on it without a transcript. The subject matter is similar to the Robison rant sampled by PWEI, the Shamen, and Birmingham 6, but then... it all was, which is why it made such great fodder for sampling.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: karen on 01/11/08 at 1:31 pm

Was the 'commentary' in Paradise by the Dashboard Light from a real game?

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: agrimorfee on 01/11/08 at 4:43 pm


Was the 'commentary' in Paradise by the Dashboard Light from a real game?


per Wikipedia:

Rizzuto is also the announcer who provides the play-by-play commentary during the long spoken bridge in Meat Loaf's 1977 song "Paradise by the Dashboard Light." Ostensibly an account of a baseball sequence, it actually describes the singer's step-by-step efforts to lose his virginity. Rizzuto was reportedly unaware of the suggestive double entendre nature of his spoken contribution, and claimed to be annoyed by the song's success after he began receiving disapproving letters from clergymen. However, by the time he was given a gold record for the album, the mini-controversy had been smoothed over. "Phil was no dummy," said singer Meat Loaf. "He knew exactly what was going on, and he told me such. He was just getting some heat from a priest and felt like he had to do something. I totally understood."

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: HawkTheSlayer on 01/11/08 at 4:59 pm

Wasn't the evangelist Brother Love involved with something of this nature?

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Midas on 01/11/08 at 6:32 pm



"What were the skies like when you were young? They ran on forever. They... When I... We lived in Arizona and the skies always had little fluffy clouds in them. And uh... They were long and clear and there were lots of stars at night. And uh... When it would rain it would all turn... It... They were beautiful, the most beautiful skies as a matter of fact. Uh... The sunsets were purple and red and yellow and on fire and the clouds would catch the colors everywhere. That's neat 'cause I used to look at them all the time when I was little. You don't see that. ...You might still see it in the desert. "
--The Orb, "Little Fluffy Clouds," 1991.  Source: Rickie Lee Jones being interviewed on PBS



This is one of my favourites.  I first heard this track on KDGE-FM Dallas ("The Edge") mid-'91.  Have the CD-single. :)

A Casey Kasem countdown sample is used in the beginning of the International version of O.K.'s "Okay!".  That song has various other samples as well.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 01/16/08 at 11:47 pm

Industrial Artz, Psychotic Reaction, track 6 of their 1992 album "6 Demon Bang"

"They're at it again!  With the colored lights and the weird sounds!"
  - From the 1986 movie From Beyond, aka "H.P. Lovecraft's From Beyond".

"Give me the power, I BEG OF YOU! (thunder/lightning) (bunch of latin invocations)"
  - Presumably from Child's Play

"Can't you feel it?"

"(Various effects)"

"(electrical sound) More... / Oh right there, that's it!"

"Give me the boy and I'll let you live, do you hear me?  Give me the boy..."
  - Chucky, from the 1988 movie Child's Play

"(maniacal laughter) Sorry, man, but this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life! Oh no, they're going it at again! (more maniacal laughter)"

"You mean that's IT?!"

...and since I don't have either movie handy, does anyone know where "This thing is f*ckin heavy, man", and the (aaw-aa-aa-aaw) scream come from in track 8, Braineater?

Wouldn't surprise me if all of these samples came from these two movies (and/or 1985's Re-Animator).  Any of these ring any bells?

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: ladybug316 on 02/05/08 at 2:05 pm

What about Jane's Addiction song "Ted.... Just Admit It" where they use a snippet of Ted Kennedy denying his involvement in Chappaquiddick?

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: HawkTheSlayer on 02/07/08 at 2:35 am


Industrial Artz, Psychotic Reaction, track 6 of their 1992 album "6 Demon Bang"

"They're at it again!  With the colored lights and the weird sounds!"
  - From the 1986 movie From Beyond, aka "H.P. Lovecraft's From Beyond".

"Give me the power, I BEG OF YOU! (thunder/lightning) (bunch of latin invocations)"
  - Presumably from Child's Play

"Can't you feel it?"

"(Various effects)"

"(electrical sound) More... / Oh right there, that's it!"

"Give me the boy and I'll let you live, do you hear me?  Give me the boy..."
  - Chucky, from the 1988 movie Child's Play

"(maniacal laughter) Sorry, man, but this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life! Oh no, they're going it at again! (more maniacal laughter)"

"You mean that's IT?!"

...and since I don't have either movie handy, does anyone know where "This thing is f*ckin heavy, man", and the (aaw-aa-aa-aaw) scream come from in track 8, Braineater?

Wouldn't surprise me if all of these samples came from these two movies (and/or 1985's Re-Animator).  Any of these ring any bells?


Sounds like it, man!
I'll double-check in the next day or so. I have "Re-Animator".

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 02/26/08 at 4:11 am

Here's something obscure for y'all.

I've got something calling itself Bruce Springsteen, 57 Channels and Nothing On, (TARGO Remix).  Google is silent on it as of this writing.  It's 8:21, and it's basically Bruce's backbeat (and one or two notes of the guitar riff, plus the title line from the song), overlaid with a crowd chanting "No Justice, No Peace", with a lot of samples from news media of the time, largely centering around the LA riots, Dan Quayle, Murphy Brown, condoms, AIDS, Clinton's smoking rumor and spiked with random commercial snippets.  All from 1991-1992.  (And interestingly enough, all legal without licensing because every sample was less than two seconds long.  Very clever!)

"Let 'em know, let 'em know (what time it is?) (right!)  Let 'em know!"
- unknown, black speaker, excited/enthused

"I want a kinder, and gentler nation"
- George Herbert Walker Bush

"The fires are lightin' the skies up right now"
- unknown male speaker

"Anger burns in Los Angeles"
- female speaker, newscaster

"Frederick's of Hollywood is being looted"
- male speaker, newscaster

"Today's young people are learning a hard lesson; they are inheriting a damaged world..."
- male speaker, different newscaster

"Red sox four!  Eagles three and ten!"
- male speaker, unknown sportscaster

"It doesn't help matters when prime time TV has Murphy Brown mocking the importance of fathers."
- Presumably Dan Quayle, but it's been so long since I've heard him I forget

"Is the President out of his mind?!"
- male speaker, unknown, sounds like a pundit/commentator

"What do you have in the way of champagne?"
- male speaker, unknown

"And of course, what do we start with every morning?  Gossip, gossip, gossip!"
- Sounds a bit like Joan Rivers?

"People didn't think he was morally upright enough to be President..."
- male speaker, unknown, southern accent.

"Coming up on Nick at Night, it's Green Acres!"
- male speaker, Nick@nite announcer

"But the pictures you are about to see may not be appropriate for many viewers.  They are unavoidably, extremely graphic."
- male speaker, newscaster, sounds a lot like Dan Rather

"40% of Americans say Murphy Brown would make a better President compared to Quayle's 38%"
- female speaker, newscaster

"You have sex, you use condoms, so you don't get AIDS"
- male speaker, unknown accent,

etc. etc. etc, far too many samples to catch, and those are just a few of 'em.  Anyone remember the track and recognize any of the SoCal newscasters?

EDIT: Found/placed a couple of them:

"What I do suggest, is to use the imagination." (4:40)
- Dr. Ruth Westheimer, radio talk show host / sex therapist

"Fire all phasers" (4:50)
- William Shatner, as James T. Kirk from Star Trek.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: midnite on 03/14/08 at 12:18 am

Does the Beatles song "Revolution 9" contain any samples from previously released material?  Or was it all created for the song?

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Jack Wilson on 03/14/08 at 1:32 am

ANYTHING by Dickie Goodman

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: agrimorfee on 03/14/08 at 12:19 pm


Does the Beatles song "Revolution 9" contain any samples from previously released material?  Or was it all created for the song?


I think the trumpet fanfare sound that comes in about 1/4 of the way in was lifted from some stock recording, and the mournful chorus vocals as well. I think the extended backwards orchestra sounds came from outtakes from Sgt. Pepper.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Jack Wilson on 03/14/08 at 5:02 pm


ANYTHING by Dickie Goodman
Ok well, mostly song smaples, but there were some voice samples in some, especially in his older ones with Buchanan

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 03/15/08 at 12:16 am


Ok well, mostly song smaples, but there were some voice samples in some, especially in his older ones with Buchanan


We haven't all forgotten Dickie Goodman!  (And music samples count as good as voice samples in my book.)

Is there a good online resource for those?  And if there isn't, can you post any that you think are particularly obscure?  A lot of the songs I can get, but the voices of the politicians of the day (certainly everyone under the level of President) were admittedly before my time, and I'd never be able to identify 'em without help.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Jack Wilson on 03/15/08 at 1:07 am


We haven't all forgotten Dickie Goodman!  (And music samples count as good as voice samples in my book.)

Is there a good online resource for those?  And if there isn't, can you post any that you think are particularly obscure?  A lot of the songs I can get, but the voices of the politicians of the day (certainly everyone under the level of President) were admittedly before my time, and I'd never be able to identify 'em without help.
Hmm Ill check

Forgotten? I wasnt even around when he was, I just heardd him in the radio in 2002, actually it was an interview with his son about him when my dad had NPR on, thought hewas great so I downloaded a bunch of his stuff and have two of his CDs

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: agrimorfee on 03/18/08 at 11:06 am


We haven't all forgotten Dickie Goodman! ...
Is there a good online resource for those? 

http://www.emusic.com/album/Dickie-Goodman-Dickie-Goodman-Greatest-Hits-MP3-Download/10980449.html

Look for the CDs "Greatest Fables" Volume 1 and 2, which I guess are out of print.

Check out a preview clip of the track "The Banana Boat Story" here, which amazingly predates Negativland and Plunderphonics by 30 years.
http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=19751

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Jack Wilson on 03/18/08 at 9:57 pm


http://www.emusic.com/album/Dickie-Goodman-Dickie-Goodman-Greatest-Hits-MP3-Download/10980449.html

Look for the CDs "Greatest Fables" Volume 1 and 2, which I guess are out of print.

Check out a preview clip of the track "The Banana Boat Story" here, which amazingly predates Negativland and Plunderphonics by 30 years.
http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=19751
Theyre out of print now?

I guess I got the last copies of them!

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 03/28/08 at 12:25 am

Found this one by sheer accident today!

"The bomb will not start a chain-reaction in the water, converting it all to gas, and letting the ships on all the oceans drop down to the bottom.  It will not blow out the bottom of the sea and let all the water run down the hole. It will not destroy gravity.  I am not an atomic playboy..." ((...as one of my critics labeled me, exploding these bombs to satisfy my personal whim. ))
  - Vice Admiral W.H.P. Blandy, Commander Joint Task Force One, on the 1946-47 Operation Crossroads atomic tests at Bikini

As sampled by Steve Stevens, Atomic Playboys, (title track), 1989

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Midas on 03/28/08 at 10:17 am


Here's something obscure for y'all.

I've got something calling itself Bruce Springsteen, 57 Channels and Nothing On, (TARGO Remix).  Google is silent on it as of this writing.  It's 8:21, and it's basically Bruce's backbeat (and one or two notes of the guitar riff, plus the title line from the song), overlaid with a crowd chanting "No Justice, No Peace", with a lot of samples from news media of the time, largely centering around the LA riots, Dan Quayle, Murphy Brown, condoms, AIDS, Clinton's smoking rumor and spiked with random commercial snippets.  All from 1991-1992.  (And interestingly enough, all legal without licensing because every sample was less than two seconds long.  Very clever!)


TARGO - There's A Riot Goin' On.  It's a legit mix.  I have this 12" single.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 03/28/08 at 10:25 pm


TARGO - There's A Riot Goin' On.  It's a legit mix.  I have this 12" single.


Karma for that -- awesome work for digging that one out! 

With the benefit of hindsight, an acronym like TARGO is just about the only way to cram "57 Channels & Nothin' On (There's A Riot Goin' On)" into the title field of an ID3v1 tag, which was how I found it.

Out of curiosity, what are the other tracks like?  (Not that any answer could take it off my buy list :)

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 04/08/08 at 12:06 am

 
    (from page 1, samples from unknown fundie preachers, Gary Clail's Tackhead Sound System, Mind at the End of the Tether, 1986


Well, I haven't found any of the preacher samples, but I was able to source three Maggie Thatcher samples from Hard Left off the same album.

"....today, we've seen the hard left..."
"...violence in the streets..."
"In a free country, everyone has to choose"

- Margaret Thatcher's speech to the Conservative Party Conference, given at the Winter Gardens, Blackpool, October 11, 1985.

The originating site is a pretty comprehensive archive of her public speeches.  If you've got a Thatcher sample, their search engine is probably your best bet at sourcing it.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: agrimorfee on 04/08/08 at 10:49 am


Well, I haven't found any of the preacher samples, but I was able to source three Maggie Thatcher samples from Hard Left off the same album.

"....today, we've seen the hard left..."
"...violence in the streets..."
"In a free country, everyone has to choose"

- Margaret Thatcher's speech to the Conservative Party Conference, given at the Winter Gardens, Blackpool, October 11, 1985.

The originating site is a pretty comprehensive archive of her public speeches.  If you've got a Thatcher sample, their search engine is probably your best bet at sourcing it.


Speaking of which, Maggie puts in an appearance on Roger Waters' Radio KAOS during "Four Minutes." ("We must help to keep the peace...help to keep the peace...")

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 05/09/08 at 12:37 am

Accidental discovery:  That funky drum backbeat that skips in and out throughout the Thompson Twins' 1982 hit In The Name of Love was grabbed from Mike T's 1981 track Do It Anyway You Wanna

Or the other way around (the tracks came out within a year of each other).  But the dates on the records (and the dates on the discography websites on the web) say it was the Thompson Twins who grabbed the drum riff from of Mike T.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Midas on 05/15/08 at 10:20 am


Karma for that -- awesome work for digging that one out! 

With the benefit of hindsight, an acronym like TARGO is just about the only way to cram "57 Channels & Nothin' On (There's A Riot Goin' On)" into the title field of an ID3v1 tag, which was how I found it.

Out of curiosity, what are the other tracks like?  (Not that any answer could take it off my buy list :)


From my recollection (I haven't played it in awhile and I'm at work) all the mixes sound pretty similar except the Little Steven Mix 1 has Bruce's vocals included.  That mix has some samples that are included in the TARGO mix also.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 06/23/08 at 11:33 pm

Someone in another thread made the mistake of asking about Paul Hardcastle's 19.  It turns out there are more versions of the track out there than can be counted.  Some of them have different samples than others, and no one version that I know of has all the samples.  Since the track is effectively an instrumental, it's almost impossible for a listener to query Google or a lyrics site asking for which version of the track contains which samples. 

Until today, wherein I think I've covered about half of the songs.

Here's what I came up with:

According to Wikipedia, the Narrator was Peter Thomas, and the samples were from an ABC News documentary called Vietnam Requiem, an 1984 ABC television documentary about the post-traumatic stress disorder suffered by veterans.

Available on 12" vinyl (1985), and possibly the 1999 compilation 2-CD set Mix of the Century, although I don't know if it's the 8:30 version or the 5:25 version on one of the Discogs.com entries.

------------- crank up the sampler for the 8:30 mix  -------

Narrator: This is the story of men who are victims of war.  They fought the longest war in American history.  They all saw heavy combat in Vietnam.  Although they were all decorated for heroism, none of them received a hero's welcome.

Narrator: N-n-n-n-nineteen.  19.  19...

Veteran #1: You see a lotta destruction.  You see a lot of villages being burned, and you know people are being killed, and... you shoot into bushes and you hear screams and you know that people have been hit, but... to see someone get hit with a high-velocity steel-jacket round - designed by people, to kill other people.  There is no more obscene way to die.

Narrator:  Hundreds of thousands of men who saw heavy combat in Vietnam have been arrested since discharge.  Their arrest rate is almost twice that of non-veterans of the same age.  There are no accurate figures on how many of these men have been incarcerated, but a Veterans' Administration study concludes that the greater a vet's exposure to combat, the more likely his chance of being arrested or convicted.  This is one legacy of the Vietnam War.

Veteran #1:  They had VC that were twelve feet tall.  They captured the 25th Infantry with a bag fulla rocks.  Everybody went after Ho Chih Minh with broken bayonets.  These were the baddest dudes I ever saw in my life.

Narrator: N-n-n-n-nineteen.  19.  19...

(instrumental break, sampled scream, instrumental break)

Female background singers: "Destruction - d-d-d-d-d-es-des

Soldier: I looked at this guy and asked him what to do.  He'd been hit, right below his eye.  The side of his face was blown away.  He wasn't fallin', was just... standin'... and he kinda half-turned, and fell.  (And he kinda half-turned, and fell.)  And then we came back and we were different, and everybody wants to know "God, what happened to those guys over there"...

Veteran #2:  There's gotta be somethin' wrong somewhere.

Veteran #1:  ...We did what we had to do...

Veteran #2:  There's gotta be somethin' wrong somewhere.

Veteran #1:  And people wanted us to be ashamed - of what it made us.

Veteran #2:  They have no idea what it meant for five, ten years now.  All we want to do is come home.

Veteran #1:  Why?

Veteran #2:  All we want to do is come home.

Veteran #1:  What did we do it for?

Veteran #2:  All we want to do is come home.

Veteran #1:  Was it worth it?

---------------- fade out out at 4:44, then fade back in with -----------------

Samples:  "And then we came back, and we were different..." to the end of the song.  Just the tail endsamples, over an ambient background.

---------------- fade back out at 5:25, then back in with ---------------------

Narrator: This is the story of men who are victims of war.  They fought the longest war in American history.  They all saw heavy combat in Vietnam.  Although they were all decorated for heroism, none of them received a hero's welcome.

Narrator: Unlike Vietnam, World War 2 saw America unite behind her fighting men.  The two wars were just as different on the front lines as they were back home. 

(n-n-n-n-ninteteen...)

Narrator:  Hundreds of thousands of men who saw heavy combat in Vietnam have been arrested since discharge.  Their arrest rate is almost twice that of non-veterans of the same age.  There are no accurate figures on how many of these men have been incarcerated, but a Veterans' Administration study concludes that the greater a vet's exposure to combat, the more likely his chance of being arrested or convicted.  This is one legacy of the Vietnam War.

(instrumental break)

Female background singers:  All those who remember the war, they won't forget what they've seen.  Destruction, of men in their prime, whose average age was 19.  (d-d-d-d-d-destruction...)

Narrator:  After WW2, the men came home together, in troop ships, often less than 48 hours after jungle combat. ((( yes, that's exactly how it's sampled.  The re-recorded version is a re-reading of the original sample, or it says what the original Narrator meant. )))  Perhaps the most dramatic difference between WW2 and Vietnam was coming home.  (None of them received a hero's welcome.  None of them.  N-n-n-n-n-one-of-them-rec-none of them received a hero's welcome...  n-n-n-none of them...)

Veteran #1:  And then we came back and we were different, and everybody wants to know "God, what happened to those guys over there"...

Veteran #2:  There's gotta be somethin' wrong somewhere.

Veteran #1:  ...We did what we had to do...

Veteran #2:  There's gotta be somethin' wrong somewhere.

Veteran #1:  And people wanted us to be ashamed - of what it made us.

Veteran #2:  They have no idea what it meant for five, ten years now.  All we want to do is come home.

Veteran #1:  Why?

Veteran #2:  All we want to do is come home.

Veteran #1:  What did we do it for?

Veteran #2:  All we want to do is come home.

Veteran #1:  Was it worth it?

------------ end song, 8:30.  The fades in/out could indicate an 8:30 mix, or three separate tracks on a 12" vinyl intended to be played continuously ------

But that version still doesn't cover all the samples from the interview. 

From a 4:26 "Extended" mix:

Narrator:  In 1965, Vietnam seemed like just another foreign war, but it wasn't.  It was different in many ways.  In World War Two, the average age of the combat soldier was 26.  In Vietnam, he was 19.  In-in-in-in-in Vietnam, he was 19.  n-n-n-ninteen.

Newscaster:  The heaviest fighting of the past two weeks continued today, 25 miles northwest of Saigon.

Veteran #1:  I wasn't really sure what was goin' on.

Narrator:  nn-n-n-ninteen.

Veteran #1:  I wasn't really sure what was goin' on.

Narrator:  In Vietnam, the combat soldier typically served a 12-month tour of duty, but was exposed to hostile fire almost every day.

Newscaster:  In Saigon, a US military spokesman said today more than 700 enemy troops were killed last week in that sensitive border area.  Throughout all of South Vietnam, the enemy lost a total of 2689 soldiers. 

Female background singer:  All those who remember the war, they won't forget what they've seen.  Destruction, of men in their prime, whose average age was 19.  (d-d-d-d-d-destruction...)

Narrator: This is the story of men who are victims of war.  They all saw heavy combat in Vietnam. 

Narrator:  According to a Veteran's Administration study, half of the Vietnam combat veterans suffer from what psychiatrists call Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.  Many vets complain of alienation, rage, or guilt.  Some succumb to suicidal thoughts.

Narrator:  This is one legacy of the Vietnam war.  They fought the longest war in American history.  None of them received a hero's welcome.

Sample:  (( Difficult-to-decipher Army military cadence ))

Narrator:  Vietnam
Newscaster:  Saigon
Narrator:  Vietnam
Newscaster:  Saigon
Narrator:  Purple heart
Newscaster:  Saigon
Veteran #1:  I wasn't really sure what was goin' on.
Narrator:  n-n-n-n-nintenteen

Sample:  (( various military effects ))

Narrator:  Almost 800,000 men are still fighting the Vietnam War.

-----------------

There's a 12" mix at 5:16.  No references to arrest records or troop ships.  But it does have one more sample from Veteran #1:

Veteran #1:  You're 18 years old and you're wearin' somebody's brains around on your shirt because they got their head blown off right next to you.  And that's not supposed to affect you.  I can never understand that.  What would scare me, is if we were to send a group of eighteen-year-olds 12,000 miles away, and subject them to a year of that obscenity, and have them not be affected.  That's what we're fighting.

----------------------

The Disconet version (7:54) features the original Narrator, cuts the four words "That's what we're fighting" from the "brains all over your shirt" sample, but adds one more sample:

Newscaster:  With the release of the last American prisoners by North Vietnam today, the final contingent of US troops in South Vietnam boarded planes and flew out of Saigon.

-----------------

And that still isn't it! 

There must have been some legal difficulties (or someone noticed a mistake in the source documentary), because there's a 6:20 "Dance Mix" that contains the same samples, but all of the Narrator's lines have been re-read by a different narrator.  The re-recorded voice has an edge to his voice that indicates that he's very aware of why he's reading the Narrator's lines.

The Newscaster's samples, and Vet #1's samples, are original; only the Narrator's samples were re-recorded.  Both the "arrest" line and the "troop ship" lines are re-recorded, and the "troop ship" line has been corrected to say "After WW2, the men came home together in troop ships, but the Vietnam vet often arrived home within 48 hours of jungle combat."  (Which is what was meant in the original, although I don't know whether the mistake was on the part of the Narrator or a quick edit by Hardcastle to fit the line into the bars of music.  It sounds a lot like the Narrator made a mistake, although I'd have to see the original documentary to make that official.)

----------------------

Last, but not least, and by "Least", I mean that I don't speak German or French, I know there are versions with the Narrator's (and some of the Newscaster's lines) transcribed into German, and another version with the same thing done in French.  I gotta draw the line at transcription somewhere, dammit.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: whistledog on 06/23/08 at 11:34 pm

Not sure if this one counts, but in Los Del Rio's painfully overplayed hit 'Macarena', they sample Alison Moyet's laugh as originally heard in the 1982 hit 'Situation' by Yaz

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 06/24/08 at 1:43 am


Not sure if this one counts, but in Los Del Rio's painfully overplayed hit 'Macarena', they sample Alison Moyet's laugh as originally heard in the 1982 hit 'Situation' by Yaz


Yes, it counts.

Even if it's close to -- but not -- the same laugh that shows up both in Birmingham 6's Birmingham 6 (Track 1 from their 1994 album "Mindhallucination") and the laugh that immediately followed the zipper-pull from Motley Crue's She Goes Down (Track 9 from their 1989 album "Dr. Feelgood").  Because I just checked, and I'm not sure whether to be disappointed or relieved. 

(Alcohol, randomized playlists, and this message board.  Enough said.  What has been heard, cannot be unheard.  I swear to God I'm not making it up.)

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 07/15/08 at 11:35 pm

And I can top that.

I did not expect "Bang, Nine, Automatic", and a verse or two from Ice-T's The Hunted Child, track 10 off The Iceberg / Freedom of Speech, to be sped up to the point that Ice-T sounds like Alvin the Chipmunk, and then sampled into a techno cover of Enya's Orinoco Flow.

But there it is.  Orinoco's Groove came out in 1998, and appears on a compilation called Hit Explosion Vol. 1 - 1999.

Sometimes the samples we discover aren't stranger than we imagine.  Sometimes they're stranger than we can imagine.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Bobby on 07/23/08 at 9:17 am

Three of my favourite house songs featuring samples are Coldcut's 'Doctorin' the house', Bomb the Bass's 'Beat Dis' and 'Pump up the volume' by M/A/R/R/S.

Beat Dis starts with the sample; 'The names have been changed to protect the innocent . . .' and then does a countdown from 5 to 1 - presumably from Thunderbirds?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-FrRccfy5U

There are far too many samples in 'Doctorin' the house' to recall  . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAoCkVkcMr8

Another old song from 1987 featuring samples is 'Pump up the volume' by M/A/R/R/S . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGPhUr-T6UM

If anyone can let me know the samples to any of these tracks, that would be well cool.  8)

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: agrimorfee on 07/23/08 at 1:04 pm

Kid Koala...Girl Talk...Avalanches...all of their works are created from extensive unauthorized samples.

Avalanches' big hit "Frontier Psychiatrist" definitely includes dialogue from a 60s Walt Disney movie (possilbly The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes) in its opening moments before the drum kicks in, but I have no idea where the rest of it comes from.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 07/23/08 at 11:31 pm


Beat Dis starts with the sample; 'The names have been changed to protect the innocent . . .' and then does a countdown from 5 to 1 - presumably from Thunderbirds?


The countdown is from Thunderbirds.  The "names have been changed" sample is from the TV version of Dragnet.

According to this thread from 2006, the sample "You play Russian Roulette this way" is from a snippet of dialogue that nobody was able to track down.  (We're smarter than that, right? :)  Its most recent appearance was in Junkie XL's Russian Roulette, but Bomb the Bass sampled it in 1988's Beat Dis, and Zinno sampled it the very next year in 1989's Russian Roulette.  (Anyone up on their late-80s movie sample trivia?)


There are far too many samples in 'Doctorin' the house' to recall  . . .


Gift for understatement.  There are... a lot of references to plastic man / plastic men in both pop music and in movie history, and I still couldn't source enough of 'em to solve the song.


Another old song from 1987 featuring samples is 'Pump up the volume' by M/A/R/R/S . . .


(Don't know who "Yo all you homeboys out in the Bronx / this one's for you" was.  The voice is tantalizingly familiar.  Some movie?)

"That's right, this has gotta be the greatest record of the year!" is definitely Wolfman Jack

The "Brothers and sisters!" in the MARRS track (and everywhere else in rap, dance, and house music, but most notably in Public Enemy's "Rebel without a Pause", where it's followed by "I don't know what this world is coming to") is none other than Jesse Jackson (!) introducing the Soul Children, at the Wattstax concert of 1972.

"Mars needs women!" is, of course, from the B-movie Mars Needs Women.

The deeper I dig, the more I realize we've barely scratched the surface of even the most popular sample-based tracks, never mind the obscure ones.

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Henk on 07/24/08 at 12:27 am

OK, analyze this! ::)

Hithouse - Jack To The Sound Of The Underground

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: whistledog on 07/24/08 at 9:58 pm

^ I have the 12" single of that.  It is pretty tricky to decipher all the samples used

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: whistledog on 07/24/08 at 10:09 pm

♦ In the 2004 hit The Love of Richard Nixon by Manic Street Preachers, Nixon is sampled at the end ...

"In all the decisions I have made in my public life, I have always tried to do what was best for the nation.  I have never been a crook!"


♦ In the 1987 hit Dragnet by The Art of Noise (from the film of the same name), samples were used of Dan Aykroyd's dialog from the film.  In the version heard during the opening credits of the film, samples of Tom Hanks' voice were also used ...

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Midas on 07/24/08 at 10:26 pm


OK, analyze this! ::)

Hithouse - Jack To The Sound Of The Underground


Well, not all of them, but...

"On the double" - from Nia Peeples' "Trouble"...

Sounds like there's some non-vocal stabs from Prince's "Batdance" in the track as well...

Don't know if the "No Good" lyrics originated here but is used later in Prodigy's "No Good (Start The Dance)"...

"Yeah you know house!" - I have that on the intro of the Hot Tracks mix of Beatmasters feat. Cookie Crew's "Rok Da House" but it could have been sampled elsewhere...

And then there's some scratching of that "Ahhh...this stuff is realllly fresh!" sample from Fab 5 Freddy's "Change the Beat".

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Henk on 07/25/08 at 12:04 am


Don't know if the "No Good" lyrics originated here but is used later in Prodigy's "No Good (Start The Dance)"...



According to Wikipedia:
"The original sample "You're no good for me, I don't need nobody" is by Kelly Charles and comes from the single "You're No Good For Me" (1987, London Records LONX153)."

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Henk on 07/25/08 at 12:22 am

Hithouse (Peter Slaghuis, RIP) also did Move Your Feet To The Rhythm Of The Beat


...more sampling to figure out.

All I have found so far is that the "It's worked so far but we're not done yet" sequence is probably from a Star Trek episode (words uttered by Bones).

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 07/25/08 at 12:43 am


Hithouse - Jack To The Sound Of The Underground


"Say kids, what time is it" - from American 50s TV series Howdy Doody, also sampled elsewhere.


Hithouse - Move Your Feet To The Rhythm of the Beat


The boing-boing-boing sample at around 1:00 in the 4:07 remix is from Dead or Alive, You Think You're A Man.

I wish I knew who did "Aaw, you bastards / ?? by my side / ?? ?? / ?? ?? / Don't be so f*in serious!", but I've heard that sample sped up in at least one other track.  Unfortunately, I can't remember the track either.  Big help I am!  Duh....

But if you're talking Trek, you're talking nerd, and that means you're talking my language.

"It is useless to resist us..."
  - Sounds vaguely like Capt. James T. Kirk, Star Trek, from the episode Mirror, Mirror, but don't quote me on that.

It's "worked so far, but we're not out yet."
  - Doctor Leonard "Bones" McCoy, Star Trek, from the episode I, Mudd.
  (...which also appears in Information Society's "What's on your mind", and the "Pure energy" sample is also the Doctor...)

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Midas on 07/25/08 at 9:40 am




"It is useless to resist us..."
  - Sounds vaguely like Capt. James T. Kirk, Star Trek, from the episode Mirror, Mirror, but don't quote me on that.



That sample is also used at the beginning of the Space Age Mix of Information Society's "Walking Away".

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Bobby on 07/25/08 at 7:55 pm


The countdown is from Thunderbirds.  The "names have been changed" sample is from the TV version of Dragnet.

According to this thread from 2006, the sample "You play Russian Roulette this way" is from a snippet of dialogue that nobody was able to track down.  (We're smarter than that, right? :)  Its most recent appearance was in Junkie XL's Russian Roulette, but Bomb the Bass sampled it in 1988's Beat Dis, and Zinno sampled it the very next year in 1989's Russian Roulette.  (Anyone up on their late-80s movie sample trivia?)

Gift for understatement.  There are... a lot of references to plastic man / plastic men in both pop music and in movie history, and I still couldn't source enough of 'em to solve the song.

(Don't know who "Yo all you homeboys out in the Bronx / this one's for you" was.  The voice is tantalizingly familiar.  Some movie?)

"That's right, this has gotta be the greatest record of the year!" is definitely Wolfman Jack

The "Brothers and sisters!" in the MARRS track (and everywhere else in rap, dance, and house music, but most notably in Public Enemy's "Rebel without a Pause", where it's followed by "I don't know what this world is coming to") is none other than Jesse Jackson (!) introducing the Soul Children, at the Wattstax concert of 1972.

"Mars needs women!" is, of course, from the B-movie Mars Needs Women.

The deeper I dig, the more I realize we've barely scratched the surface of even the most popular sample-based tracks, never mind the obscure ones.


Thank you very much for your help, Foo Bar - karma on the way . . .  :)

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Bobby on 07/25/08 at 7:57 pm


"Say kids, what time is it" - from American 50s TV series Howdy Doody, also sampled elsewhere.


Ah! That sample features in Doctorin' the House, one of the three tracks I mentioned above.

"Say kids, what time is it
IT'S TIME FOR HOUSE!"

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Henk on 07/26/08 at 1:08 am


I wish I knew who did "Aaw, you bastards / ?? by my side / ?? ?? / ?? ?? / Don't be so f*in serious!", but I've heard that sample sped up in at least one other track.  Unfortunately, I can't remember the track either.  Big help I am!  Duh....


Some of the blanks are "This time, honey / This time, baby" - or at least that's what it sounds like to me.

I was thinking...If Mr Slaghuis sampled Kelly Charles for his first success, why not sample her again? I just guessing of course, but it could be another Kelly Charles song.

Karma for helping me out on some of the other samples. :)

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 08/05/08 at 12:39 am

Seeing as how the Dark Knight has a new movie out, it's probably time to dredge up Batman's presence in samples.  The top three Batman tracks that come to mind are from 1989; all feature house beats overlaid with tons of Batman samples.

So if you're coming across this post because you're trying to figure out which of those nameless dance tracks featured those Batman samples you remembered so well... you've probably come to the right place.

1) BOSE, Batman (The Original Swing), from 1989's Spread the Word is the one you've probably heard.  Widespread club and alternative/dance radio play.

2) B.A.T. (Balearic Acid Techno)'s "BAT in my House" (and many remixes, including the acid house track "Aciiid Bat In My House") followed it up.  If you're looking for a Batman remix and it wasn't BOSE's track, it's probably this one.  Somewhat widespread club play.

3) DJ Dakeyne's Bat Groove is the long shot of Batman sample-heavy mixes.  Released via the DMC remix service, release 80-1 (September 1989), you probably only heard this if you were at a club in the late 80s where the DJ subscribed to the Disco Mix Club remix service.

All three tracks feature dozens of samples from the first Batman movie, and all three tracks include the sample "Atomic batteries to power... turbines to speed..."

OK, so what other Batman-derived tracks have I missed?

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: agrimorfee on 08/05/08 at 10:02 am




OK, so what other Batman-derived tracks have I missed?


Prince's Bat Dance, of course... :D (yeah, I know that's not what you were drivin' at...couldn't resist...)

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: Foo Bar on 08/06/08 at 12:18 am


Prince's Bat Dance, of course... :D (yeah, I know that's not what you were drivin' at...couldn't resist...)


Maybe not... but it counts.  Besides, it probably got more airplay than all three of the tracks I mentioned put together.  (Now you've got me wondering how often "music specifically created for a movie" actually makes the transition from soundtrack to mainstream airplay.  Probably not very often.)

Subject: Re: Sampling: Voice samples in music

Written By: agrimorfee on 08/06/08 at 10:53 am


Maybe not... but it counts.  Besides, it probably got more airplay than all three of the tracks I mentioned put together.  (Now you've got me wondering how often "music specifically created for a movie" actually makes the transition from soundtrack to mainstream airplay.  Probably not very often.)

Not very often nowadays, but as long as there have been movies, there's been songs or music from the movies on the radio.

Axel F from Beverly Hills Cop. My Heart Will Go On from Titanic. And don't forget the classic musicals of the 30s-50s.

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