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Subject: Comments on my parodies
I like the idea of having the feature that allows people to say what they think of my songs, but I dont need people with no parodies on the site to point out every little place where a changed the origional ryme and tell ME that I never had a hit song! The first time someone gave me a flashy comment like this, I just took it, it was about "Seen the lights go out in downtown," one of my earlier ones. The writer took examples out of the song where I didnt ryme my new lines with my origional, and then he told me never to parody Billy Joel, my favorite artist, again! I replied with a responding comment.
But then, on my new one, "Scenes from amiright.com," someon again pointed out all the little errors and areas where I miss-rymed and then told me that Ive never had a hit, which as any regular would know is sooooo untrue! Now I dont need this! I dont need people with no experiance telling me that I suck! And I dont need people to tell me that Im doing soooo wrong by not ryming when, no offence, there are parodies that are much worse on the ryming. So once again I replied with a responding comment.
Is there a possible way that these comments could be filtered? If not Ill just remember to put a little something as the bottom comments on my parodies, because I like the comments...and I dont want it removed...
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
Hey Mike,
I think there's a link at the bottom that says "report inappropriate comments"...if you think someone's wronged you or is obscene or malicious or whatever.
I guess you just have to take the bad with the good, man :-/
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
I feel dumb now...I totally forgot about that link! ;D
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Hey Mike,
I think there's a link at the bottom that says "report inappropriate comments"...if you think someone's wronged you or is obscene or malicious or whatever.
I guess you just have to take the bad with the good, man :-/
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Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
Don't worry Mike, I've had the same happen
but some I deserve cuz' my pacing sucks in a lot of songs.
Well, I like your parodies still.
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
Hi Mike,
You know, when somone points out that you don't have any "hits," just remember that they most likely don't have good parodies!
Anyway, forget the mean people.
Ciao,
Klaire
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
And the guy who said that I didnt have any hits has no parodies at amiright at all...
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Hi Mike,
You know, when somone points out that you don't have any "hits," just remember that they most likely don't have good parodies!
Anyway, forget the mean people.
Ciao,
Klaire
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Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
I'll admit, I don't mind people with no parodies commenting on my stuff, in that it gives a perspective outside of myself and other parody writers. If I'm writing something and it just doesn't sound right, even if it's nitpicking, I'm curious to hear if someone thinks so.
That said...it's a big step from "missing a couple rhymes" to "grotesque/egotistical/etc...etc." It wasn't THAT bad ;D Seriously though, his comments weren't helpful at all, and anything constructive you might get out of them are lost in his blasting you away (and he must not check the top 10 lists, for what they're worth).
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
Perhaps newcomers have more subjective opinions because they're not used to parodies on amiright. And maybe they don't know better. It just makes their status as newbies more obvious.
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
well, I think what people need to keep in mind, is that your target audience isn't generally other parody writers, it's the general public. Weird Al doesn't write songs for performers to enjoy, he writes them for the general public.
While I think it's cool people write parodies for songs that would probably never get parodied professionally, you have to remember there's a reason they wouldn't get parodied by a professional. Parodies work best when people already know the original song.
I also think writing a parody, when you know the target audience only gets to read it, opposed to hearing it, does significantly alter what is going to work and what isn't.
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
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well, I think what people need to keep in mind, is that your target audience isn't generally other parody writers, it's the general public. Weird Al doesn't write songs for performers to enjoy, he writes them for the general public.
While I think it's cool people write parodies for songs that would probably never get parodied professionally, you have to remember there's a reason they wouldn't get parodied by a professional. Parodies work best when people already know the original song.
I also think writing a parody, when you know the target audience only gets to read it, opposed to hearing it, does significantly alter what is going to work and what isn't.
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I agree...because there are also words with more than one way to punounce it...and it might get confused...
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
Be more careful with your spelling and grammar too.
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
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I also think writing a parody, when you know the target audience only gets to read it, opposed to hearing it, does significantly alter what is going to work and what isn't.
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Agreed: ones that work best when sung often get worse votes; conversely, some of the highest-scoring parodies wouldn't work at all if sung to an audience. I have to admit to changing my writing style quite a bit (closer adherence to original word patterns and rhyming schemes, for example) for amiright submissions, and have a couple where I sing different words to the ones submitted (e.g. Puff), because they work better that way.
Phil
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
I know the guy who is giving all 1 votes was brought up in another string, but I thought I could cry about it here. I don't know if this has happened to anyone else, but has anyone gotten the all 1s on a song with no comments? If I really suck that badly, they least someone could do is tell WHY they suck.
This was the really bad one I guess, it's to "One Last Breath," by Creed: One Idol (the Edge). http://www.amiright.com/parody/2000s/creed37.shtmlIf someone could tell me why it's so bad, I'd appreciate it to avoid making the same mistakes again.
I also want to agree with the singing outloud vs. reading the parody. I typically have the song playing and sing over the words just to make sure everything matches. (If I read someone elses, I try to give the same consideration if I vote on it!)
Oh, I guess my U2 parody sucked too. http://www.amiright.com/parody/2000s/u29.shtml
Ciao,
Klaire
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
You don't suck THAT badly ;D It happens, more often than it should, unfortunately, but there's not much we can do about it. Chuck has talked about registering voters, but that would cut down on the number of overall votes/comments since people couldn't just surf through (the regulars on the site would be fine since we log in anyway).
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
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I know the guy who is giving all 1 votes was brought up in another string, but I thought I could cry about it here. I don't know if this has happened to anyone else, but has anyone gotten the all 1s on a song with no comments? If I really suck that badly, they least someone could do is tell WHY they suck.
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unless you get around 20 votes, the amount of votes you're getting are going to be pretty well skewed, since it doesn't take much to make the votes swing wildly.. if you don't get at least a couple dozen, I wouldn't take it too hard.. and since there's such a large amount of parodies being submitted every day now, it's getting just that much harder to get noticed and attract a lot of votes..
which of course is why the new contest is such a good idea, and why I think I'll try something similar once the amIright Idle contest is over.
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
Yeah... I know... It was just kind of was sad to see the only votes for a parody as all ones! :'( Oh well. At least I have modivation to try and work harder!
Ciao,
Klaire
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
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Yeah... I know... It was just kind of was sad to see the only votes for a parody as all ones!
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I had one of those for a while - the first three people who voted for this one http://www.amiright.com/parody/misc/willshakespeare0.shtml all gave it 1:1:1 - when you get that happening, you know that either
a) they don't know the original
b) they're giving it all 1's for a completely different reason (e.g. they're complete w*****rs) or
c) it really is that bad.
I ended up adding a comment with all the original words to prove the case - normally, though, you can't do that for copyright reasons.
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You don't suck THAT badly
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...is it possible to suck badly?
Phil
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
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...is it possible to suck badly?
Phil
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Or, is it possible to suck in a good way?
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
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Or, is it possible to suck in a good way?
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Oh, yes!
;-)
Phil
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
I'm this so-called "terrible person" who left a criticism of Mike Florio's parody "Seen the Lights Go Out on Downtown." Now, before you go believing that Mike Florio has been harrassed by people "out to get him", I would like you to take a look at my criticism. Please inform me of anything in that criticism that is incorrect. I'm of the belief that if an "artist" is going to submit his work, especially one he proclaims as a "hit" of his, he should at least have the decency to spell-check his work. The pacing in this parody was poor - mainly because pacing isn't just an assessment of whether or not the song fits with the original. The reason pacing is poor in this parody, for one, is because there is a whole extra verse that is not in the original song. If you're going to say that Billy Joel is your favorite artist, you can at least get the correct number of stanzas in the song. I'm not trying to re-criticize the parody, for I've already given my opinion on it. All I'm trying to say is that just because a regular to the site says that he's getting "cheated", doesn't necessarily mean that he is. The parody isn't a good one, and if he isn't man enough to accept the criticisms, maybe he should take the posting privilege of off his parodies. Apparently, Mr. Florio only wants to receive positive comments, to affirm his own belief that he is an elite member of this fraternal organization of sorts. Well, my friend, even the "best" have to take their lumps, and until you learn that not everyone is going to like what you do, you're just going to sound like a whiny child.
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
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Oh, yes!
;-)
Phil
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Oh my! :o
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
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I'm this so-called "terrible person" who left a criticism of Mike Florio's parody "Seen the Lights Go Out on Downtown." Now, before you go believing that Mike Florio has been harrassed by people "out to get him", I would like you to take a look at my criticism. Please inform me of anything in that criticism that is incorrect. I'm of the belief that if an "artist" is going to submit his work, especially one he proclaims as a "hit" of his, he should at least have the decency to spell-check his work. The pacing in this parody was poor - mainly because pacing isn't just an assessment of whether or not the song fits with the original. The reason pacing is poor in this parody, for one, is because there is a whole extra verse that is not in the original song. If you're going to say that Billy Joel is your favorite artist, you can at least get the correct number of stanzas in the song. I'm not trying to re-criticize the parody, for I've already given my opinion on it. All I'm trying to say is that just because a regular to the site says that he's getting "cheated", doesn't necessarily mean that he is. The parody isn't a good one, and if he isn't man enough to accept the criticisms, maybe he should take the posting privilege of off his parodies. Apparently, Mr. Florio only wants to receive positive comments, to affirm his own belief that he is an elite member of this fraternal organization of sorts. Well, my friend, even the "best" have to take their lumps, and until you learn that not everyone is going to like what you do, you're just going to sound like a whiny child.
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It wasnt your comment that really got me pissed off...And I admited to all of the things you accused me of in the responding comment...I know I was off on pacing and I added an extra verse, but I didnt think anyone would catch on...it was an earley parody of mine...The one thing that I didnt like that you did was that you read line for line in both the origional and mine and pointed out every little spot where I didnt ryme my word with the origionals and I said that if you wanna do that with every parody at amiright, be my guest, but itll take you a very very long time...
You didnt tell me that Ive "obviously never hit the charts with a song" like the person who replied to my "Scenes from amiright.com" parody...now that guy got me pissed off!
PS: I do believe that you told me to never parody Billy Joel again...I didnt enjoy that too much either...
Subject: Re: Comments on my parodies
Hey! I got some 1-1-1s today. I was really hurt on my Ryan Adams Parody to New York, New York. http://www.amiright.com/parody/2000s/ryanadams0.shtml
The other one was my Static X one:
http://www.amiright.com/parody/2000s/staticx2.shtml
If someone could tell me why they suck so much, I'd appreciate it.