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Subject: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: loki 13 on 11/10/09 at 7:01 pm

This discussion started in work and I thought I'd bring it here and get a consensus from the fine members
of this forum.

In the Eagles song Hotel California, what is that you hear after he says, "Mirrors On The Ceiling." I distinctly
hear hear him say, "Depict Champagne on ice." Most people hear it as. "The Pink Champagne On Ice."

Now I'll state my case. In the previous verse it's said., So I Called to The Captain, "Please Bring me my Wine."
He Said, "We Haven't Had That Spirit Here Since Nineteen Sixtynine." Why would they have Pink Champagne
on ice when it was already stated that spirit wasn't there? So I say with the evidence at hand the correct lyric
is Depict Champagne On Ice, what say you?

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 11/10/09 at 7:39 pm

After googling it a few tiimes, it appears that the lyrics are...pink champagne.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: loki 13 on 11/10/09 at 7:45 pm


After googling it a few tiimes, it appears that the lyrics are...pink champagne.


Hi Erin,

I stand by my convictions, and as I tell my kids, I may not always be right but I'm never wrong.  ;)

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Jessica on 11/10/09 at 8:27 pm

I say "pink champagne" because champagne is entirely different from wine, so the previous lyric doesn't matter.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: loki 13 on 11/10/09 at 8:33 pm


I say "pink champagne" because champagne is entirely different from wine, so the previous lyric doesn't matter.


Champagne is nothing more than wine with bubbles.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Jessica on 11/10/09 at 8:38 pm


Champagne is nothing more than wine with bubbles.


Yes yes, I just got schooled on alcohol by my friend because I really don't give two shyts about wine and champagne.  But that leads me to the conclusion that Henley either didn't know or didn't care that they are the same beverage, hence the lyric that was sung, which was, "pink champagne on ice", making it sound like two different products.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: wildcard on 11/10/09 at 9:29 pm

I've always heard pink champagne on ice.  It does mention before that they don't have wine.  Consider the mirrors on the ceiling line and the we are all just visitors here of our on device.  The pink champagne was used to describe something nice the can lure someone into L.

One of my favorate songs       

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: gibbo on 11/11/09 at 1:25 am


This discussion started in work and I thought I'd bring it here and get a consensus from the fine members
of this forum.

In the Eagles song Hotel California, what is that you hear after he says, "Mirrors On The Ceiling." I distinctly
hear hear him say, "Depict Champagne on ice." Most people hear it as. "The Pink Champagne On Ice."

Now I'll state my case. In the previous verse it's said., So I Called to The Captain, "Please Bring me my Wine."
He Said, "We Haven't Had That Spirit Here Since Nineteen Sixtynine." Why would they have Pink Champagne
on ice when it was already stated that spirit wasn't there? So I say with the evidence at hand the correct lyric
is Depict Champagne On Ice, what say you?


You make a very compelling argument...but my Hotel California guitar songbook says "Pink Champagne On Ice"... ;D

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: mooster on 11/11/09 at 2:07 am

I hear both but that's of no help ;D

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Gis on 11/11/09 at 3:35 am

Ok the bit where he says 'please bring me my wine' he's not naming which wine he wants specifically. Just becuase they don't have that one doesn't mean they don't have others, including pink champagne!

The reply 'we haven't had that spirit here' could refer to the fact that they don't have the specific drink he was asking for (though they may have plenty of others).
I personally think it's meant to mean spirit as in attitude not alcohol.
Wine is not a spirit so why would a bartender say 'we don't have that spirit' when someone has asked for wine, they above all others would know wine isn't a spirit. 

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Jessica on 11/11/09 at 8:50 am

Or we can just conclude that this song makes no f*cking sense whatsoever and who really cares what Henley was saying.  I'm sure he didn't as long as he was making the money.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: loki 13 on 11/11/09 at 9:14 am

Okay, I get the consensus, I don't agree but that's nothing new. I guess it's just so me, to quote two other songs;
I stand alone and I won't back down.

I am not an Eagles fan and I don't own the album but did the lyrics come with the original album?

As far as lyric sites and song books go, they could be wrong. History books around the world tell of
the great ride of Paul Revere but of all the riders that night Revere traveled the shortest distance and
told the least amount of people. All I am trying to say is, print a lie long enough and eventually it will
become truth.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Jessica on 11/11/09 at 9:33 am

So if Henley himself walked up to you and said, "The correct lyric is 'pink champagne on ice'", you still wouldn't believe him?

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Midas on 11/11/09 at 9:42 am

Toilet paper roll: over or under?

Coke or Pepsi?




"I hope some animal never bores a hole in my head and lays its eggs in my brain, because later you might think you're having a good idea but it's just eggs hatching."


:D

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Jessica on 11/11/09 at 9:44 am


Toilet paper roll: over or under?

Coke or Pepsi?




"I hope some animal never bores a hole in my head and lays its eggs in my brain, because later you might think you're having a good idea but it's just eggs hatching."


:D


Under and Coke. :D

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: karen on 11/11/09 at 10:31 am


Under and Coke. :D


nah, you're wrong

it's over and Pepsi

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: karen on 11/11/09 at 10:33 am


This discussion started in work and I thought I'd bring it here and get a consensus from the fine members
of this forum.

In the Eagles song Hotel California, what is that you hear after he says, "Mirrors On The Ceiling." I distinctly
hear hear him say, "Depict Champagne on ice." Most people hear it as. "The Pink Champagne On Ice."

Now I'll state my case. In the previous verse it's said., So I Called to The Captain, "Please Bring me my Wine."
He Said, "We Haven't Had That Spirit Here Since Nineteen Sixtynine." Why would they have Pink Champagne
on ice when it was already stated that spirit wasn't there? So I say with the evidence at hand the correct lyric
is Depict Champagne On Ice, what say you?


what the heck is Depict Champagne?  And how is it less spirit like than pink champagne?

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: wildcard on 11/11/09 at 10:39 am

I still  think this is a matter of a line

Taken out of context

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Dagwood on 11/11/09 at 10:44 am


Toilet paper roll: over or under?

Coke or Pepsi?




"I hope some animal never bores a hole in my head and lays its eggs in my brain, because later you might think you're having a good idea but it's just eggs hatching."


:D


Over and Pepsi  ;)

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: karen on 11/11/09 at 10:47 am


Over and Pepsi  ;)


O0

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: loki 13 on 11/11/09 at 10:51 am


what the heck is Depict Champagne?  And how is it less spirit like than pink champagne?


Depict: (v.) To represent in a picture or sculpture.

meaning the mirrors on the ceiling look like or represent champagne.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Jessica on 11/11/09 at 10:53 am


nah, you're wrong

it's over and Pepsi



Over and Pepsi  ;)


Heathens. ;D

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Red Ant on 11/11/09 at 11:12 am

The line from every lyrics site I went to:

"The pink champagne on ice"

Listening to the original album version, it definitely sounds like "depict" instead of "the pink".

Listening to some live versions, it sounds like "the pink".

The Unplugged version clears it up though - Don Henley just sings "pink champagne on ice".

Conclusion: he mumbled the line in the original, probably 'cause he was high on coke and out of TP.

I vote for "the pink" being the correct lyric. As to what was originally sung, it's about as clear as decyphering Pearl Jam lyrics.

Ant

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: karen on 11/11/09 at 11:13 am


Depict: (v.) To represent in a picture or sculpture.

meaning the mirrors on the ceiling look like or represent champagne.


Ah.  After I posted my comment I wondered if that's what it meant.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Dagwood on 11/11/09 at 1:09 pm


Heathens. ;D


And proud of it. :P ;D


I vote for Pink Champagne.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: wildcard on 11/11/09 at 1:24 pm


Depict: (v.) To represent in a picture or sculpture.

meaning the mirrors on the ceiling look like or represent champagne.


That works too then with the meaning of the song and it probably was sang both ways.  I just have always heard ink not ict on the radio.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Midas on 11/11/09 at 1:33 pm


And proud of it. :P ;D


I vote for Pink Champagne.


Pink Champagne for everyone!

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: gibbo on 11/11/09 at 2:41 pm


Okay, I get the consensus, I don't agree but that's nothing new. I guess it's just so me, to quote two other songs;
I stand alone and I won't back down.

I am not an Eagles fan and I don't own the album but did the lyrics come with the original album?

As far as lyric sites and song books go, they could be wrong. History books around the world tell of
the great ride of Paul Revere but of all the riders that night Revere traveled the shortest distance and
told the least amount of people. All I am trying to say is, print a lie long enough and eventually it will
become truth.



I was at two Eagles concerts .... and I swear Henley looked me in the eye and sang " Pink champagne on ice".... ;) 

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Gis on 11/11/09 at 4:29 pm


I was at two Eagles concerts .... and I swear Henley looked me in the eye and sang " Pink champagne on ice".... ;)   
Aye, aye.... ;)

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Gis on 11/11/09 at 4:58 pm


Depict: (v.) To represent in a picture or sculpture.

meaning the mirrors on the ceiling look like or represent champagne.
On a Serious note. I agree that the lyric is 'depict'  not 'pink' and have always thought that is what it is.

However I take it to mean 'depict champagne on ice' as in the mirrors actually show the reflection of a champagne bottle that is on ice below. Makes much more sense, because mirrors, even tiny mosaic ones don't look like or represent an ice bucket with a bottle of champagne in it no matter how hard you try to see it!

As I said before champagne is a wine not a spirit so I don't think that that line means there was no champagne in the hotel.

Love the song, always have, and any mention of champagne on ice gets the thumbs up in my book YUM!


Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: loki 13 on 11/11/09 at 5:18 pm


However I take it to mean 'depict champagne on ice' as in the mirrors actually show the reflection of a champagne bottle that is on ice below. Makes much more sense, because mirrors, even tiny mosaic ones don't look like or represent an ice bucket with a bottle of champagne in it no matter how hard you try to see it!


Ah, but if the mirror was cut out in the shape of bucket and bottle it would then be a depiction. Glass can be cut in any shape,
besides, a vivid imagination or help of a little substance are all you need to see anything. ;D

I didn't mean for this to turn into a song analysis, I just wanted to know what people hear in the song.

A did you know moment (According to songfacts):
The line "They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast" is a reference to Steely Dan. The bands shared
the same manager and had a friendly rivalry. The year before, Steely Dan included the line "Turn up the Eagles, the neighbors
are listening" on their song "Everything You Did."

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Howard on 11/11/09 at 6:43 pm


Toilet paper roll: over or under?

Coke or Pepsi?




"I hope some animal never bores a hole in my head and lays its eggs in my brain, because later you might think you're having a good idea but it's just eggs hatching."


:D


Over And Coke.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: karen on 11/11/09 at 6:47 pm


Over And Coke.


And you started off so well!

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Howard on 11/11/09 at 6:49 pm


And you started off so well!


What do you mean Karen?  ???

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: loki 13 on 11/11/09 at 7:02 pm

I've read about the over/under debate in one of my Bathroom Readers, It said it depends on your dominent hand.
Left handed people tend to hang the paper under while right handed people go for the over. Oddly enough,
it makes sense.  :P

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: karen on 11/11/09 at 7:04 pm


What do you mean Karen?  ???


Well I think it's over and Pepsi 

you started off right by saying over but then spoilt it by saying Coke!

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Jessica on 11/11/09 at 7:09 pm


I've read about the over/under debate in one of my Bathroom Readers, It said it depends on your dominent hand.
Left handed people tend to hang the paper under while right handed people go for the over. Oddly enough,
it makes sense.  :P


Makes sense.  I'm left handed and always put it under.  Rice is right handed and always hangs it over.

That sounds wrong for some reason...

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: wildcard on 11/11/09 at 9:05 pm

over the pepsi   

Want a little soda yum, soda yum       
Let me open fridge and find
Cherry Cola                     

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Dagwood on 11/11/09 at 10:04 pm


I've read about the over/under debate in one of my Bathroom Readers, It said it depends on your dominent hand.
Left handed people tend to hang the paper under while right handed people go for the over. Oddly enough,
it makes sense.  :P


I love the Bathroom Readers...they are fun reading. :D

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: gibbo on 11/11/09 at 10:10 pm


Well I think it's over and Pepsi 

you started off right by saying over but then spoilt it by saying Coke!


I was under until I gor married and was advised that I (and my Mum) were incorrect and it has been over ever since!  From what I can tell under has less chance of the paper being caught and pulled (making a mess ....especially when younger children are involved)..while over is easier for me to get a hold of the paper (the wall does not get in the way).  Very scientific stuff.... ;)

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: loki 13 on 11/13/09 at 5:41 pm

Hotel California was played on the radio again today which sparked this discussion all over again. I told the guys
in work what the consensus of this forum was and was told that so many people can't be wrong. I told them
I disagreed and they could be wrong but I was reminded by the one guy who agrees with me that I not the
best authority on correctly hearing lyrics. I've never heard the obvious misheard lyrics such as There's a
Bathroom on the right,
or 'Scuse me While Kiss This Guy, or Chucky's own Hold Me Closer Tony
Danza.
However, to this day I still hear Big Ol' Jam At The Lighthouse instead of Big Ol' Jet Airliner,
Memories Of Elvis Are Playing In The Band instead of Tambourines And Elephants and When The
Tooth Is Gone You realize
instead of When The Truth Is Found To Be Lies. I guess he's right, it will be
pink champagne from here on out.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: wildcard on 11/13/09 at 7:44 pm

Well that's what I hear on the radio, but like I said, it could have been written and or sang with diplict because it fits.  I have problems matching what I hear and making sence with any lyrics I find on Hearts Magic Man. 

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Tam on 11/13/09 at 8:21 pm

Well Kevin, I am odd woman out here.

I know I really must hear some of the funkiest things, because I have always and forever thought it said:
"Mirrors on the ceiling, they picked champagne on ice"

Yes, I realize it makes no sense whatsoever - but I figured they were all so stoned that it didn't matter to them, it fit and so they left it. ;D

Apparently I now have to change my singing lyrics to say "pink" or "depict"... I am so confused!!! :D ;D ;D

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: loki 13 on 11/13/09 at 9:03 pm


Well Kevin, I am odd woman out here.

I know I really must hear some of the funkiest things, because I have always and forever thought it said:
"Mirrors on the ceiling, they picked champagne on ice"

Yes, I realize it makes no sense whatsoever - but I figured they were all so stoned that it didn't matter to them, it fit and so they left it. ;D

Apparently I now have to change my singing lyrics to say "pink" or "depict"... I am so confused!!! :D ;D ;D


Well at least you heard the picked part and not pink, forget the last line of my last post, the debate is on again.  ;D

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Tam on 11/13/09 at 9:06 pm


Well at least you heard the picked part and not pink, forget the last line of my last post, the debate is on again.  ;D

;D

I currently have my Best Of cd in the rom, burning to iTunes... I want to hear it right now! lol

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: mooster on 11/13/09 at 10:22 pm


Well Kevin, I am odd woman out here.

I know I really must hear some of the funkiest things, because I have always and forever thought it said:
"Mirrors on the ceiling, they picked champagne on ice"

Yes, I realize it makes no sense whatsoever - but I figured they were all so stoned that it didn't matter to them, it fit and so they left it. ;D

Apparently I now have to change my singing lyrics to say "pink" or "depict"... I am so confused!!! :D ;D ;D


You're confused?! I also hear 'we drink champagne on ice'  :D ;D

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: wildcard on 11/14/09 at 12:23 am

I was in you tube for a while until it became rediculosly slow and kept hearing pink until I got to one with (original)  the or da piink, but an extra sylable.  Haven't come across anything with an ict sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qlORj0n2M&feature=related

I'll read how to embed this and see if I can figure it out, but for right now, here's where it is

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Tam on 11/14/09 at 12:36 am

^ fixt.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: wildcard on 11/14/09 at 1:08 am

^ I was working on it Tam, so next time let me just try to myself
  Though I may be slow I learn in the doing way
  Frustrated in middle of the night
  To learn for next day

anyway, I don't hear ict. 

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Tam on 11/14/09 at 10:03 am


^ I was working on it Tam, so next time let me just try to myself
   Though I may be slow I learn in the doing way
   Frustrated in middle of the night
  To learn for next day

anyway, I don't hear ict. 




Sorry Girl. ;)
I see someone needing help and I automatically offer my services! But I will be sure to step back from here on out! 8)

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Tam on 11/14/09 at 10:09 am


Well at least you heard the picked part and not pink, forget the last line of my last post, the debate is on again.  ;D


I thought I had it figured last night.
When I pulled out The Best of cd last night to load on iTunes, I noticed there is a booklet in the cd case. I pulled it out thinking "YES! The lyrics have to be in here..." and of course they aren't. All the boys do is talk about how the song came about or meanings in the song. I was a sad panda!


You're confused?! I also hear 'we drink champagne on ice'  :D ;D


And that works too! ;)
I think it is because of the little "dey" sound in front of what others think sounds like pink.
I mean, obviously, if it was sung "pink" in concert, then it must be so, although perhaps like I said before, they were so stoned when they originally wrote it, they can't remember what the word(s) is/are. Just like their "warm smell of colitas" - colitas meaning the smell of maryjane. ;) ;D

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: wildcard on 11/14/09 at 10:35 am


Sorry Girl. ;)
I see someone needing help and I automatically offer my services! But I will be sure to step back from here on out! 8)


I'd be in a rush to help with anything I could too.


The drink works, but it's been pink in my head for so long and it's much eaiser to hear the difference in vowel sounds. 

Ann, how come you're hard of hearing with speech and you can hear all this? 

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Philip Eno on 11/14/09 at 10:51 am

My vote is for Pink Champagne.

...and that is the welcome you get at the Hotel California.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Ashkicksass on 11/15/09 at 9:00 pm

I've always thought it was pink champagne, but I love the idea of "mirrors on the celing depict champagne on ice."  That's such a cool and different way of looking at it.

Let me ask this question - why does someone have to be right?  That's what's so awesome about art and music - we all take something different from it.  I take different things from the same song all the time depending on where I am in my life.  I love that.  So it doesn't really matter who is right and who is wrong.  The important thing is that you enjoy the song.

I also loved Gis' interpretation of the line "we haven't had that spirit here since 1969" being more about a general attitude and less about a drink.  I've always taken it that way too.  Just like the whole idea of "Hotel California" is more of mentality than an actual place.  "You can check out any time you like but you can never leave." 

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Jessica on 11/15/09 at 10:52 pm


I've always thought it was pink champagne, but I love the idea of "mirrors on the celing depict champagne on ice."  That's such a cool and different way of looking at it.

Let me ask this question - why does someone have to be right?  That's what's so awesome about art and music - we all take something different from it.  I take different things from the same song all the time depending on where I am in my life.  I love that.  So it doesn't really matter who is right and who is wrong.  The important thing is that you enjoy the song.

I also loved Gis' interpretation of the line "we haven't had that spirit here since 1969" being more about a general attitude and less about a drink.  I've always taken it that way too.  Just like the whole idea of "Hotel California" is more of mentality than an actual place.  "You can check out any time you like but you can never leave." 



I just thought they were smoking something.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Gis on 11/16/09 at 8:10 am


I just thought they were smoking something.
But isn't that when you are meant to get all deep and meaningful?  ;)

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: Jessica on 11/16/09 at 11:04 am


But isn't that when you are meant to get all deep and meaningful?  ;)


No, I usually just want to eat more. ;D

When I used to smoke stuff.  Yeah.

Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: karen on 11/16/09 at 2:27 pm


Under and Coke. :D


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Subject: Re: Depict or Pink Champagne?

Written By: mooster on 11/17/09 at 2:36 am


Just like their "warm smell of colitas" - colitas meaning the smell of maryjane. ;) ;D


I've always wondered what a colitas was - now I know  8)

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