...you go into the kitchen to make tea, you pour water into the kettle and walk out without switching the kettle on.

... you can't remember where you put your keys

you start replying to a post and then can't remember the point you were going to make

You walk into to room to get something and you can't remember what it is you're looking for.


... you can't remember where you put your keys


I misplace my keys at least once a day.  I'm going to start wearing them on a chain around my neck.  ;D

... you can't remember where you put your keys

You walk into to room to get something and you can't remember what it is you're looking for.

I misplace my keys at least once a day.  I'm going to start wearing them on a chain around my neck.   ;D
What keys?

...you go into the kitchen to make tea, you pour water into the kettle and walk out without switching the kettle on.





Been there, done that.


Two things that you know your getting old, your memory isn't as good as it used to be and the second one...damn, I can't remember what it is.



Cat

Been there, done that.


Two things that you know your getting old, your memory isn't as good as it used to be and the second one...damn, I can't remember what it is.



Cat
Sometimes I even forget to drink the tea once it has been made.

Stick on of those things, whatever they are, I forget what they call them, on your car antenna so that you won't report your car stolen from the parking lot because you totally forgot where you parked your car and it was there all the time  ::)

you start replying to a post and then can't remember the point you were going to make


or you start to reply to a post, have to minimize the window mid-thought (because you're at work  ;D )  and then completely forgot that you were posting. You find the minimized window hours later and wonder why you wanted to reply in the first place.

... you forget where you park and you start scavenging the parking lot, and then become hopeless after awhile  :\'(

or you start to reply to a post, have to minimize the window mid-thought (because you're at work  ;D )  and then completely forgot that you were posting. You find the minimized window hours later and wonder why you wanted to reply in the first place.


I do that all the time (because I post usually when I'm at work, too)  ;D

You type out the post in its complete form, post it, then as it is been sent you realise a mistake and you have to open it again to modify the message.

You type out the post in its complete form, post it, then as it is been sent you realise a mistake and you have to open it again to modify the message.


man that happens to me a lot. or you have to edit because you got side tracked and left out your main point

I am off for a lie down now.

...you start dropping phrases like, 'back in my day' into your conversations a little more frequently!

The older and older you get the longer the walk to school and the deeper the snow.



Cat

My Mother must be getting old when she asks where her pocketbook is and it's downstairs all that time. ::)

You morph into your mother, spouting the same nonesense to your children, and it actually makes sense to you  :o

"Because I said so, that's why"...

...when you start to work out how old the songs you hear on the radio are. For instance, Johnny Nash's I Can See Clearly Now was released in 1972, making it 35 years old.

...when you start to work out how old the songs you hear on the radio are. For instance, Johnny Nash's I Can See Clearly Now was released in 1972, making it 35 years old.
...and you do remember the record on it's first release.

...and you do remember the record on it's first release.



eeeesh! Tell me about it!  Tutti-Frutti - Little Richard, my uncle was crazy about it in his chevy with the top down and the music cranked. Drove my grandmother crazy.

you start listening to some Doo-Wop yourself from the 50's.

the one that got me was I was watching a movie (Domestic Disturbance) and in one scene a boat house/business is blown up. When I was younger I would have said COOL!  But when I watched this the first thing I said was... I hope he was insured! 

...when you start to work out how old the songs you hear on the radio are. For instance, Johnny Nash's I Can See Clearly Now was released in 1972, making it 35 years old.


...especially when you remember actually hearing said song at the time it was released! 

...especially when you remember actually hearing said song at the time it was released! 


...and especially when you had the thing when first released!

(Well, not me exactly...but it was in the household!)

...when some board members say that the first songs they remember hearing or the t.v. shows they first remember were popular when you were already married/had kids.



Cat

you start dancing to Wham's Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go.

...when some board members say that the first songs they remember hearing or the t.v. shows they first remember were popular when you were already married/had kids.



Cat
Or worse, they've never even heard of things that were really popular:  "There was a band named The Doors?  Who are the GoGo's?"

Or worse, they've never even heard of things that were really popular:  "There was a band named The Doors?  Who are the GoGo's?"


I told a friend whos about 9 years younger than me that I share a birthday with C. Thomas Howell.  She said "Who?"

Or worse, they've never even heard of things that were really popular:  "There was a band named The Doors?  Who are the GoGo's?"



Or how about people/groups who are popular now and you say "Who?"



Cat

Or how about people/groups who are popular now and you say "Who?"



Cat
I remember The Who

I remember The Who



;D ;D ;D


There was an episode of the old Buck Rogers series (I'm sure the young "whippersnappers" here will have no idea what I'm talking about). They were talking about a popular band.

Buck: Oh, they are like the Beatles.
Wilma: Who?
Buck: Not the Who, the Beatles.




Cat

... the first thing you hear when you get out of bed is various joints popping and making other weird noises.

This morning my neck made a sound which was similar to an icy branch snapping under its own weight. I layed there for a moment wondering if I had broken my neck.

Ant

I remember The Who
My Generation, indeed.

...you have trouble staying up past 9:30 at night!  :-[

...you have trouble staying up past 9:30 at night!  :-[


Yes, but look at the time you get up!  ;)

There was an episode of the old Buck Rogers series (I'm sure the young "whippersnappers" here will have no idea what I'm talking about). They were talking about a popular band.

Buck: Oh, they are like the Beatles.
Wilma: Who?
Buck: Not the Who, the Beatles.


Slappy:  Not the Beatles.  The name of the band!  Who!  Yes!  Whatta yutz!

(Slappy promptly pushes Buck aside and starts playing "Those Endearing Young Charms" on a nearby piano to show him how the gag's supposed to be done...)

... the first thing you hear when you get out of bed is various joints popping and making other weird noises.

This morning my neck made a sound which was similar to an icy branch snapping under its own weight. I layed there for a moment wondering if I had broken my neck.

Ant


My neck just made a strange cracking noise when tilting my head back.

...you have trouble staying up past 9:30 at night!  :-[
I was lead to believe the older you get, the less sleep you will need. For my own experience, it looks like you need more sleep than less.

I was lead to believe the older you get, the less sleep you will need. For my own experience, it looks like you need more sleep than less.


I think you need the same amount of sleep but distributed differently throughout the day.  So less sleep at night but a nap after lunch for example.

I think you need the same amount of sleep but distributed differently throughout the day.  So less sleep at night but a nap after lunch for example.


Yes, that's how it is for my dad...

Yes, that's how it is for my dad...
My Dad too, and my Mum...

Slappy:  Not the Beatles.  The name of the band!  Who!  Yes!  Whatta yutz!

(Slappy promptly pushes Buck aside and starts playing "Those Endearing Young Charms" on a nearby piano to show him how the gag's supposed to be done...)



That's funny!  ;D

My Dad too, and my Mum...


Me, too.  I can only do 5 hours at a stretch ususally, then a nap or two during the day.

... you see a patch of grey hair sprouting out of your head.  :\'( (such is my case)

... you see a patch of grey hair sprouting out of your head.  :\'( (such is my case)
Grey hair started for me ages ago, but it is coming more prominent now.

Bye Bye to smooth flat bellies

... you see a patch of grey hair sprouting out of your head.  :\'( (such is my case)



I have bits of gray hair on both sides of my head and I'm only 33. ::)

Bye Bye to smooth flat bellies


Hello to "Love Handles". ;D

You walk into to room to get something and you can't remember what it is you're looking for.

I misplace my keys at least once a day.  I'm going to start wearing them on a chain around my neck.   ;D


I wear my keys around my neck (on a lanyard) and I still somehow end up misplacing them ;D

I wear my keys around my neck (on a lanyard) and I still somehow end up misplacing them ;D


How does that happen? ::)

Those cool jeans you wore in high school no longer fits you.

I found several pairs of old jeans while going through my storage and needless to say it would take a divine miracle to get into those things again!

How does that happen? ::)
There are times in your life when the keys still have to be taken off.

I wear my keys around my neck (on a lanyard) and I still somehow end up misplacing them ;D



How does that happen? ::)



All too easily    ;D

...you cannot remember the last thing your brought.

... you see a patch of grey hair sprouting out of your head.  :\'( (such is my case)



I was 15 when that happened.  :o :o :o  I started coloring my hair at 19.

YMBGOW you have been coloring your hair for so long you have no idea what your natural color is/was.



Cat

.... when you look in the mirror, and ask ... 'who's that?'

When you and your parents complain about the same thing.

When you and your parents complain about the same thing.


I know what you mean. ::)

I know what you mean. ::)


Have you guys had the "kids theses days" rant? ;D

Have you guys had the "kids theses days" rant? ;D



Yeah,that too.

Or when you say "Back In My Days"....  ;D

Have you guys had the "kids theses days" rant? ;D


I work on a college campus. I don't know if its just cuz I'm old now but man! the freshmen get dumber every year!

... you can't even see with glasses - hmm, time for a new pair, eh?  ;D

I was 15 when that happened.  :o :o :o  I started coloring my hair at 19.

YMBGOW you have been coloring your hair for so long you have no idea what your natural color is/was.



Cat


Yes, it's quite amazing when it can show up that early. It really makes you feel out of step with your real age. My mother also had that at a very young age. She said she was in high school when grey started showing. It's funny, my brother has the same patch as I do, and my mom's also showed up in a similar spot. Must be a hereditary weak spot - lol 

This article may better explain why this happens so young sometimes:

http://www.kidshealth.org/kid/grownup/getting_older/gray_hair.html

Yes, it's quite amazing when it can show up that early. It really makes you feel out of step with your real age. My mother also had that at a very young age. She said she was in high school when grey started showing. It's funny, my brother has the same patch as I do, and my mom's also showed up in a similar spot. Must be a hereditary weak spot - lol 

This article may better explain why this happens so young sometimes:

http://www.kidshealth.org/kid/grownup/getting_older/gray_hair.html


So I'll be 43 when My hair will fully turn gray? :o

When your joints and muscles start aching due to Arthur visiting (arthritis) and due to the rain and cold we've been working ourselves up to any minute now.

You think the phrase "Getting some action" means that the laxative is finally kicking in.

Have you guys had the "kids theses days" rant? ;D


I've caught myself doing this with my friends. I never dreamed I would start sounding like my parents!  :o

You know you're getting old when you stoop to tie your shoelaces and wonder what else you could do while you're down there.

... you see a patch of grey hair sprouting out of your head.  :\'( (such is my case)
I think you are only a few years older or younger than me( I am 27) and you are getting grey. I know you said because it was because of your family genes. I think grey hair could look good on a woman though depending on your original hair color and skin tone.  If you are a natural blonde having grey growing in as  your natural color shouldn;t look that bad even at your young age. If you are a natural brunette(especially a dark haired brunette) that might change your appearence too drastically.

I think you are only a few years older or younger than me( I am 27) and you are getting grey. I know you said because it was because of your family genes. I think grey hair could look good on a woman though depending on your original hair color and skin tone.  If you are a natural blonde having grey growing in as  your natural color shouldn;t look that bad even at your young age. If you are a natural brunette(especially a dark haired brunette) that might change your appearence too drastically.


I am actually a natural brunette (sometimes my hair could be classified as black because it's very, very dark brown). I am actually not really all too concerned about getting a few grey hairs. I am okay with aging gracefully. I am actually 25, so I am a bit young for this happening. But, it's all good  ;D

I've caught myself doing this with my friends. I never dreamed I would start sounding like my parents!  :o

On the same theme, when you refer to 24-year-olds as "you damn kids!"
;D

You make a list for the grocery store so you won't forget what you need but you leave the list at home.  ;D

I am okay with aging gracefully. I am actually 25, so I am a bit young for this happening. But, it's all good  ;D


25? Yeah, 'aging gracefullly' .. a great 'concept' now. When those numbers are reversed .. 52 ... I suspect you'll re-appraise the situation ... if you haven't already had a face-lift, 'boob job' 'laser eye therapy' etc; etc by then!

Me? I'm aging gracefully .. but even I'm starting to think .....


You make a list for the grocery store so you won't forget what you need but you leave the list at home.  ;D


Been, there, done that (DUH!)  :-[  , slapped own face yet again  :(  ....

You make a list for the grocery store so you won't forget what you need but you leave the list at home.   ;D


I did that last week....and ended up forgetting half the things on my list!  :-[

You make a post, and you  find yourself repeating yourself in that post.





























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You are ecstatic to be able to order form the "Senior Citizens" menu.

People keep telling you "You look good for your age"

You are ecstatic to be able to order form the "Senior Citizens" menu.


But you have to be 65,Don't You?  ;D

You are ecstatic to be able to order form the "Senior Citizens" menu.



You are ecstatic to be able to use your AARP discount.




Cat

you forget what you came upstairs for.

you forget what you came upstairs for.


... but you then remember when you arrive back downstairs !

(Only to forget again, when you return upstairs ... leading to the expression, 'life is full of ups and downs' ).  :D

You're always forgetting where you put your keys.

You're always forgetting where you put your keys.


Have YOU ^ been spying on me !?  >:( Well, SOMEBODY's gotta keep those locksmith's employed !  ;D

Have YOU ^ been spying on me !?  >:( Well, SOMEBODY's gotta keep those locksmith's employed !  ;D


;D ;D ;D

you start to squint even though you have 20/20 vision.

You become known as "that old fart".

I am actually a natural brunette (sometimes my hair could be classified as black because it's very, very dark brown). I am actually not really all too concerned about getting a few grey hairs. I am okay with aging gracefully. I am actually 25, so I am a bit young for this happening. But, it's all good  ;D


Yeah, I've heard of people getting a few stray gray hairs, even as early as their late teens sometimes. I never noticed it in any of your pics, but if I didn't know I'd probably mistake it for blonde streaks, so I think it's cool. :)

The only thing I've come to despise as I've gotten older is having to shave more. I can't stand even any remote facial hair, both for the feel and the appearance (most people say the babyfaced look suits me better anyway, and I agree). I look relatively youngish for my age though, people usually don't think I'm any older than 20 or maybe 22. Whenever I mention some personal experience from the '80s that I actually lived, people kinda act surprised, lol.

You become known as "that old fart".


You wouldn't mind so much if you were referred to as that 'old VINTAGE fart' .... one for the connossieurs !

:D ;D :D

when you ask "What The Hell did you just Say"?  ;D

Yeah, I've heard of people getting a few stray gray hairs, even as early as their late teens sometimes. I never noticed it in any of your pics, but if I didn't know I'd probably mistake it for blonde streaks, so I think it's cool. :)

The only thing I've come to despise as I've gotten older is having to shave more. I can't stand even any remote facial hair, both for the feel and the appearance (most people say the babyfaced look suits me better anyway, and I agree). I look relatively youngish for my age though, people usually don't think I'm any older than 20 or maybe 22. Whenever I mention some personal experience from the '80s that I actually lived, people kinda act surprised, lol.
Uh shaving it sucks for me because I have to shave everyday. Unfotunately, because I am italian and if I don;t shave for one day I looked like I;m in the process of growing a full beard because thats how fast the hair on my face grows.

Yeah I look like I;m 22 too(thats the comment I got a couple weeks ago.) I said once to a girl who was in High School Last year that I gradusted High School in 1998 and she's like 1998! Her friend thought I was much younger than my 26-27 years old of age at the time too I think. 

I am babyfaced too but I wish I can grow a go-t because it will make me look a little more sophisicated. I have to fully shave everyday because of my job.

You hurt almost everywhere- and what doesn't hurt, doesn't work.

You hurt almost everywhere- and what doesn't hurt, doesn't work.


It worked for R.E.M. though. When 'Everybody Hurt' ... they were crying all the way to the bank !  :P  ;D

You know you must be getting old when the only thing you can think to talk about is either the weather or how the weather affects your arthritis in your joints and muscles.  Yep, that is me.  ;D

You know you must be getting old when the only thing you can think to talk about is either the weather or how the weather affects your arthritis in your joints and muscles.  Yep, that is me.   ;D


For men, it's when the only thing you can think to discuss is either:

-What laxative you used that day,
-How the Viagra affected your hair growth, or
-Who died yesterday.

you can't even remember what you did the other day. ;D

you can't even remember what you did the other day. ;D
That is true, I can cleary remember events from 30 years ago, but do struggle to recall yesterday.

That is true, I can cleary remember events from 30 years ago, but do struggle to recall yesterday.


Probably 'cause  yesterday you  were postwhoring. Which doesn't seem a great deal different to what you were doing the day before that. Or the day before that. Or the day .......... or the day ............  ;D

Probably 'cause  yesterday you  were postwhoring. Which doesn't seem a great deal different to what you were doing the day before that. Or the day before that. Or the day .......... or the day ............   ;D
I can remember the time when there was no Internet.

I can remember the time when there was no Internet.


What did you do to occupy your time then ..... in the 'dark ages' ... 'one' wonders .......

What did you do to occupy your time then ..... in the 'dark ages' ... 'one' wonders .......
I was working back then.

I was working back then.


What was your main profession ?

What was your main profession ?
Back then, I have had various trades to my life.

25? Yeah, 'aging gracefullly' .. a great 'concept' now. When those numbers are reversed .. 52 ... I suspect you'll re-appraise the situation ... if you haven't already had a face-lift, 'boob job' 'laser eye therapy' etc; etc by then!

Me? I'm aging gracefully .. but even I'm starting to think .....

Been, there, done that (DUH!)  :-[  , slapped own face yet again  :(  ....


hehe, well, I really don't want any of those procedures. I think if anything I'd consider would be if I had cottage cheese on me, lol. And, I can honestly tell my body does not look like it use to (like when I was 21) I don't know why just a few years have changed me - I actually "feel" older. Before, I always felt like a young chap - but maybe it's just cause I've gained a few extra pounts this last year.

When heartburn becomes more frequent after eating.

I can remember the time when there was no Internet.



What did you do to occupy your time then ..... in the 'dark ages' ... 'one' wonders .......



I was working back then.



What was your main profession ?



Back then, I have had various trades to my life.


(Sighs ! ... thinks ... Now why did I ever think I was gonna get a straight answer ?  ::) As usual, there he is, 'ducking and weaving' .... ).  ::)


Hey, Philip ! You weren't one of these, were you ?


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Hand over your money, if you know what's good for you !

???  :D

I can remember the time when there was no Internet.


I'd say 1997 was the first "internet year", so anyone over about 14 can technically remember that, lol.

Of course it took about 8 years for it to go from a hot new thing that only a few people had for office use (back when they called it "the Information Superhighway") around 1993/'94, to becoming a standard by the early 2000s. But I'm talking about when it generally went from being a novelty to getting immersed in the culture and being a part of most people's lives.

Uh shaving it sucks for me because I have to shave everyday. Unfotunately, because I am italian and if I don;t shave for one day I looked like I;m in the process of growing a full beard because thats how fast the hair on my face grows.

Yeah I look like I;m 22 too(thats the comment I got a couple weeks ago.) I said once to a girl who was in High School Last year that I gradusted High School in 1998 and she's like 1998! Her friend thought I was much younger than my 26-27 years old of age at the time too I think. 

I am babyfaced too but I wish I can grow a go-t because it will make me look a little more sophisicated. I have to fully shave everyday because of my job.

I've tried growing it out a few times in the past, but it doesn't look right, because it's mostly stubble. I don't think I could ever convincingly look like ZZ Top, lol. Yeah, whenever I mention some personal experience I had in the '80s, people often say "Whoa how can you remember that, you're too young", etc. I don't smoke or drink myself, but if I buy them for a friend occasionally, I always get carded.

You must be getting old when you get tired when you are not supposed to and wide awake when it's time to go to sleep.  Darn you wacky sleep patterns!  *shakes fist in the air menacingly at my own hormones*

You must be getting old when you get tired when you are not supposed to and wide awake when it's time to go to sleep.  Darn you wacky sleep patterns!  *shakes fist in the air menacingly at my own hormones*


Those damned hormones  >:( . ... and don't they complain when you try to walk away without paying !  ;D

Those damned hormones  >:( . ... and don't they complain when you try to walk away without paying !  ;D


I wouldn't know.  ;D

I wouldn't know.  ;D


Neither would I. Well, not the non-payment part !  ??? :o ;D

I can remember the time when there was no Internet.


I think it was before the early 90's.

you find yourself using phrases like "when I was your age" or "back in my day"

you find yourself using phrases like "when I was your age" or "back in my day"


We didn't use phrases like those ^ ... at least, not back in my day.

you find yourself using phrases like "when I was your age" or "back in my day"


We didn't use phrases like those ^ ... at least, not back in my day.

Or if you're like me, you refer to it as "In my younger days", or "When I was a single man......"

You know you are getting old when the kids you used to shake your head at are shaking their heads at kids.  ;)

you start bringing urine bottles everywhere you go. ;D

Yeah, whenever I mention some personal experience I had in the '80s, people often say "Whoa how can you remember that, you're too young", etc. Yeah I was talking to some guys who were like 45-46 years old like a year or a year and a half ago and I said something about the group "The Commodores" being Lionel Richie's old band because Lionel was the singer for the Commodores(as you know) and one of the guys said how did you know about "The Commodores"? I remember hearing some of the Commodores later stuff on the radio when I was like really young like "Lady(You Bring Me Up.)"

Yeah I got carded once when I was 24 years old in 2004 at this place down at the Jersey Shore once.

You must be getting old when...getting carded before buying alcohol or entering a casino is a GOOD thing (you tell yourself that you actually look young enough that they thought you just might be under 21.) 

You must be getting old when...getting carded before buying alcohol or entering a casino is a GOOD thing (you tell yourself that you actually look young enough that they thought you just might be under 21.) 


Yes. I wouldn't mind getting 'carded'. It used to irritate me. Now .... I'd LOVE it,  LOVE it ... LOVE IT !

you start to squint even when you have 20/20 vision.

Yes. I wouldn't mind getting 'carded'. It used to irritate me. Now .... I'd LOVE it,  LOVE it ... LOVE IT !


I hate it when I get carded to buy lotto tickets.... I'm almost forty freakin' years old! Although at the amusement parks I always win the guess my age contests! But my graying hair is starting to betray me now.

I hate it when I get carded to buy lotto tickets.... I'm almost forty freakin' years old! Although at the amusement parks I always win the guess my age contests! But my graying hair is starting to betray me now.



Do they ask for Photo ID?

Do they ask for Photo ID?


Yeah they think I'm lying when I tell them they guessed wrong.  When I was in my twenties they would guess I was 16 now that I'm in my 30s they guess 20s.

I hate it when I get carded to buy lotto tickets.... I'm almost forty freakin' years old! Although at the amusement parks I always win the guess my age contests! But my graying hair is starting to betray me now.



The day will come when this no longer happens ^ ... and you will miss it. Believe it, or not .

People accuse you of certain bodily functions, and you haven't done that in YEARS.

People accuse you of certain bodily functions, and you haven't done that in YEARS.


^ Farted ?  ???  < Thinks  ??? ... he ^ needs to see a doctor !  :P ;D

you see the first signs of gray hair in your 30's.

you think ... 'Oh yeah' 'I'd better take that pill'. Then you forget. Then you remember. Then you forget etc; etc;. Many hours later, you turn off the light, go to bed, lie down, start to relax ..... then remember you STILL haven't taken that pill .......... so you have to get up, switch the light back on .. and make a special effort !  >:(

... and ... this has happened more than one time / two times / three times ....  >:( :( :\'(

you see the first signs of gray hair in your 30's.


I found my first gray hairs when I was 23.  :(

I found my first gray hairs when I was 23.  :(


My first ... probably in my mid/ late 40's. :( Still about 90 % brown though !  8)

you see the first signs of gray hair in your 30's.

I found my first gray hairs when I was 23.  :(


I started graying at 18 but only at the top of my head. Whenever I bent over I shocked people with my "crown"

I started graying at 18 but only at the top of my head. Whenever I bent over I shocked people with my "crown"


Your crown ? Queen Snozberries ?

Your crown ? Queen Snozberries ?


Lol  I am the self proclaimed Queen of All Things.... so.... hey I go by TQ so maybe the TQ stands for The Queen  ;)

Q

Lol  I am the self proclaimed Queen of All Things.... so.... hey I go by TQ so maybe the TQ stands for The Queen  ;)

Q


Well, hopefully for your sake ... you're not also a 'drama queen'. Those OTHER 'drama queens' would not like your proclamation. I am the drama queen of drama queens. No I am !  >:( No I am !  >:( >:(  (etc; etc;  ::) )

;D

Well, hopefully for your sake ... you're not also a 'drama queen'. Those OTHER 'drama queens' would not like your proclamation. I am the drama queen of drama queens. No I am !  >:( No I am !  >:( >:(   (etc; etc;  ::) )

;D


nope that's definately not me

you begin to feel the cold more, even when you are still wearing thick clothing.

you say...I still can't hear you,Could you speak up?  ;D

you say...I still can't hear you,Could you speak up?  ;D
Pardon?

Pardon?


I still can't hear you?  ;D

I still can't hear you?  ;D
Let me find my ear-trumpet.

Let me find my ear-trumpet.


You mean hearing aid?

You mean hearing aid?
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/941/670265.JPG

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/941/670265.JPG  ??? "Hello! Can you HEAR me ? Have you been alright ? Through all those lonely, lonely, lonely nights .... ?"

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/941/670265.JPG  ??? "Hello! Can you HEAR me ? Have you been alright ? Through all those lonely, lonely, lonely nights .... ?"
At least Beethoven had one.

At least Beethoven had one.


Which conjures up yet another ELO song ..... 'Roll over Beethoven' !

Which conjures up yet another ELO song ..... 'Roll over Beethoven' !
I would think that Beethoven has rolled over many a time...

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/941/670265.JPG  ??? "Hello! Can you HEAR me ? Have you been alright ? Through all those lonely, lonely, lonely nights .... ?"


That's what I'd say. I'd tell you everything
If you'd pick up that telephone yeah yeah yeah


(Awesome ELO song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRJQLzc-bco

That's what I'd say. I'd tell you everything
If you'd pick up that telephone yeah yeah yeah


(Awesome ELO song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRJQLzc-bco


Hey, how you feeling? Are you still the same? Don't you realise the things we did we did ... were for real ... not a dream ! I just can't believe ... they've all faded out of view.

Yes ... that album 'A new world record' ... one of my fave's ... and one I particularly think of when I want to lift my mood !

As for 'Telephone Line' ... that's one I hope to put on my mobile one day ... to be the song my phone rings to. That opening electronic ring ... so pertinent / cool !

you say...I still can't hear you,Could you speak up?  ;D

Pardon?

I still can't hear you?  ;D

Let me find my ear-trumpet.

You mean hearing aid?

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/941/670265.JPG  ??? "Hello! Can you HEAR me ? Have you been alright ? Through all those lonely, lonely, lonely nights .... ?"


YOU KNOW YOU'RE GETTING OLD WHEN.... you know what an ear trumpet is  ;D

As for 'Telephone Line' ... that's one I hope to put on my mobile one day ... to be the song my phone rings to. That opening electronic ring ... so pertinent / cool !




That would a cool one to ring to.

I was thinking about putting Sheena Easton's "Telephone" on mine, but it's too much effort

When you look at any guy under 30, no matter how good he looks, all you see is "pablum"

You refer to everyone as "sweetie", "sweet cheeks", or "sonny-boy".

You keep freezing  bottles  full of beer accidentally .. 'cause you lose all track of time.  >:(  Again, and again, and again .........  :-[ :( :\'(

:\'(
^ Mr Mister 'crying into his beer'. Well, that's one way to thaw it out !  :D

You keep freezing  bottles  full of beer accidentally .. 'cause you lose all track of time.  >:(   Again, and again, and again .........  :-[ :( :\'(

:\'(
^ Mr Mister 'crying into his beer'. Well, that's one way to thaw it out !  :D


I've done that with sodas.

I've done that with sodas.


http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=26661.msg1373971;boardseen#new

Well the only thing that saved me doing it yet again ... was somebody posting in the above topic 'What kind of beer do you like' ... which came up in my 'Show new replies to your posts'. That jogged my memory. Had that poster not posted, another mini -Titanic sinker would have been born !

when You call people Sir Or madam. ;D

You wake up feeling like the night before, and you didn't do anything.

you find out half your hair is missing. ;D

You refer to everyone as "sweetie"...


I don't necesarilly think that's a sign of getting older. Even if people do typically say it to someone who is younger than they are (either that or, say someone who's just really close to them).

Just personally I love when older women call me that. I always have. ;)

you find out half your hair is missing. ;D


.... and you're combing the other half over to hide that gigantic bald patch ?  ;D

That inner young person wants to go out somewhere (maybe a bar that is having a Halloween celebration - just to be around festive people) but the majority of the rest of your body can't really be bothered as it's too much effort to turn off the computer, get dressed, get in the car, drive somewhere... I'm a real party animal - I can hardly stand myself.  ;D

That inner young person wants to go out somewhere (maybe a bar that is having a Halloween celebration - just to be around festive people) but the majority of the rest of your body can't really be bothered as it's too much effort to turn off the computer, get dressed, get in the car, drive somewhere... I'm a real party animal - I can hardly stand myself.  ;D


Do it ! If there's still time. I reckon that would be a LOT more fun ! Seeing people in funny costumes, letting their hair down .. (fun as this site is ...).

You refer to everyone as "sweetie", "sweet cheeks", or "sonny-boy".


I worked with a woman who called me Sugar Bear.... I freakin' hated that!

All the names in your "little black book" end in M.D.

.... and you're combing the other half over to hide that gigantic bald patch ?  ;D


Thank God at my age I don't have that YET! ;D

you get tired of partying,going to clubs but just want to work and earn a paycheck.

another night in with 'Mr.s  Palmer' and her '5 lovely daughters' seems like a good option !  :o ;D

another night in with 'Mr.s  Palmer' and her '5 lovely daughters' seems like a good option !  :o ;D


How old are they?  ::) ???

How old are they?  ::) ???


Uhm. Not that young anymore.  :-[ In fact, I think I can reasonably say they're very close to MY age ... very very close ! Somehow, I feel extremely close/ a strong bond  to them !  :P ;D :D

You know a woman is old when she has 5 boyfriends. She needs Will Power to get her up in the morning so she can go visit John. Then she is visited by Arthur Itis and Charlie Horse. She finally goes to sleep with Ben Gay.



Cat

You fart, and you see a dust cloud.

Uhm. Not that young anymore.  :-[ In fact, I think I can reasonably say they're very close to MY age ... very very close ! Somehow, I feel extremely close/ a strong bond  to them !  :P ;D :D


Can't be THAT close? ???

...your taste buds begin to go.

...your taste buds begin to go.


 



About 75 percent of what we perceive as taste actually comes from our sense of smell. The odor molecules from food give us most of our taste sensation. Taste buds can only distinguish four tastes: bitter, sour, salty, and sweet.



The average person can discriminate between 4,000 to 10,000 different odor molecules. And we know that age takes a much greater toll on smell than on taste. Scientists have found that the sense of smell begins to decrease after age 60. Women at all ages generally have a much better sense of smell than men of the same age.


^ Extract from a site.

About 75 percent of what we perceive as taste actually comes from our sense of smell. The odor molecules from food give us most of our taste sensation. Taste buds can only distinguish four tastes: bitter, sour, salty, and sweet.



The average person can discriminate between 4,000 to 10,000 different odor molecules. And we know that age takes a much greater toll on smell than on taste. Scientists have found that the sense of smell begins to decrease after age 60. Women at all ages generally have a much better sense of smell than men of the same age.

Is this extract from a website trying to say that women smell better than men?

Is this extract from a website trying to say that women smell better than men?


Here's the link: http://www.supermarketguru.com/page.cfm/299

I'd say  generally  ... they  smell better than men .. smell better in the sense of pleasant. Body odours / perfumes, etc;

Their sense of smell is generally much better than a man's. Good for tasting/ enjoying food ... but not so good for unpleasant smells.

I won't go there ....  :-X





















http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/images/smilies/fart.gif

^ Sorry, I lied !  :P ;D

Here's the link: http://www.supermarketguru.com/page.cfm/299

I'd say  generally  ... they  smell better than men .. smell better in the sense of pleasant. Body odours / perfumes, etc;

Their sense of smell is generally much better than a man's. Good for tasting/ enjoying food ... but not so good for unpleasant smells.

I won't go there ....  :-X





















http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/images/smilies/fart.gif

^ Sorry, I lied !  :P ;D
...mmmm... strokes chin

you're sounding just like your Father.

you're sounding just like your Father.
Then you realised you should had listened to your father.

Then you realised you should had listened to your father.


I know I should.

The only thing you talk about is-

"You know who died yeaterday?"

When you can remember politicians who said 'read my lips'  'no new taxes !' ..... and it turned out to be true !  :(
























??? Hey ! I don't feel so gloomy suddenly .... as that's never happened during MY lifetime .... so ... I can't be THAT old !  :P  8)  ;D

The only thing you talk about is-

"You know who died yeaterday?"


Or the minute you walk in the door you say "Ok,Who died"?

...everyone around you is younger.

...everyone around you is younger.


Then you say Damn,I must be getting old.  ;D

Or the minute you walk in the door you say "Ok,Who died"?


Nah, that just happens when you take your shoes off. ;D

Or the minute you walk in the door you say "Ok,Who died"?
I am always checking the obits in the newspaper or online.

I am always checking the obits in the newspaper or online.


I always come home for hoping of some bad news.

I always come home for hoping of some bad news.
I do not wish for bad news, but it is first you read.

Or the minute you walk in the door you say "Ok,Who died"?



Nah, that just happens when you take your shoes off. ;D


... or .... you 'drop your guts' ? (a la lola ...  ???  8-P  :P ).  :D

I do not wish for bad news, but it is first you read.


You never know what goes on when you're not home.

You never know what goes on when you're not home.
Like today, there is a huge fire over at the other side of London.

Like today, there is a huge fire over at the other side of London.


Who started it?

You realize your butt's dragging so low, you can moon people without lifting your skirt/dropping your trousers.

You realize your butt's dragging so low, you can moon people without lifting your skirt/dropping your trousers.


time to get new pants,Wayne. ;D

You realize your butt's dragging so low, you can moon people without lifting your skirt/dropping your trousers.


So, there ARE advantages to getting old ! ^    ;D

YMBGOW.....you smell like Alan's feet, when his shoes come off.  :D ;D :D

YMBGOW.....you smell like Alan's feet, when his shoes come off.  :D ;D :D


At least I change my socks on a daily basis these days ... and they're generally all cotton or close to.  Years back ... when I was a bit slack in this regard ... they honked to where even I'd need a clothes peg !  Especially after coming out of those running shoes .  8-P

At least I change my socks on a daily basis these days ... and they're generally all cotton or close to.  Years back ... when I was a bit slack in this regard ... they honked to where even I'd need a clothes peg !  Especially after coming out of those running shoes .   8-P
Did you use the technique of throwing the socks to the wall, if the socks fell to the fallyou would wear them, but if they stuck to the wall you would wash them?

your privates hang low and wobble to and fro. ;D

your privates hang low and wobble to and fro. ;D


They wobble, they swing ... they wobble, they swing ...

???  :-\\  I feel a song coming on ...



    Swing low, sweet chariot
    Coming for to carry me home
    Swing low, sweet chariot
    Coming for to carry me home





Gestures that sometimes accompany the song

Here is one version of the gestures for the chorus as done by rugby union fans, Hash House Harriers and US air force fighter pilots:


    Swing low: Hand clasped and fingers interlocked motion with arms
    sweet: kiss fingers and blow kiss
    chariot:' snapping invisible reins and shaky voice as if riding in a chariot

    coming: make a masturbatory gesture
    for: hold up four fingers
    to: hold up two fingers
    carry: cradle arms as if carrying baby
    me: point to self
    home: make arc over head with arms


< Leaves the 'mighty Eno' to explain the almost unexplainable to Howard ...

;D

They wobble, they swing ... they wobble, they swing ...

???  :-\\   I feel a song coming on ...



   





< Leaves the 'mighty Eno' to explain the almost unexplainable to Howard ...

;D
The explaining will be done later.

There is a Rugby Song to the tune of the Hornpipe.

"Do your ##### hang low,
do they dangle to and fro,
can you tie 'em a knot,
can you tie 'em in a bow"

I think there are more words to it.

It's

Do your ears hang low
do they wobble to and fro
can you tie them in a knot
can you tie them in a bow
can you throw them over your shoulder
like a regimental soldier
do your ears hang low

It's

Do your ears hang low
do they wobble to and fro
can you tie them in a knot
can you tie them in a bow
can you throw them over your shoulder
like a regimental soldier
do your ears hang low
Thanks for filling me in there...

...and how did you know?

Thanks for filling me in there...

...and how did you know?


Because the ear version is one we sang at Guide campfires.

Alan's post about socks reminds me of another song

Black socks, they never get dirty
the longer you wear them the stronger they get
sometimes I think I might wash them
but something inside me says no, not yet, not yet, not yet

It's

Do your ears hang low
do they wobble to and fro
can you tie them in a knot
can you tie them in a bow
can you throw them over your shoulder
like a regimental soldier
do your ears hang low



I remember that.



As some people reminded me in another thread: YMBGOW you find it flattering to be carded.



Cat

Hell, I find it flattering if people remember my name properly!

Hell, I find it flattering if people remember my name properly!


"I'm getting hard of hearing" "What was that ^ 'Wine' ?    http://forum.pc-freakz.com/style_emoticons/default/wine.gif  Oh 'Wayne' !  :-[  "Sorry" !  :-[

:P

You must be getting old when...taking your car to the car wash actually sounds exciting

You must be getting old when...taking your car to the car wash actually sounds exciting


Could be. If it's washed by a bunch of chicks ... and their t-shirts get wet ?

Could be. If it's washed by a bunch of chicks ... and their t-shirts get wet ?
in our dreams Al, in our dreams and also on spring break B-movies, but not in real life. we aren't that lucky.  I'm just happy to be driving a clean car nowadays  ;D

when you can listen to talk radio without going insane.

when someone types this ----> YMBGOW -------> and spend several minutes trying to figure out what it means  ;D

You're excited because you can finally order off the Senior Citizen's Menu.

You're excited because you can finally order off the Senior Citizen's Menu.
Some chip shops in the UK offer cheaper Fish and Chips for Senior Citizens on a certain day of the week.

You're excited because you can finally order off the Senior Citizen's Menu.


and you're how old?  ???  ;D

... you're overjoyed  that your dentures stay in your mouth unlike that last time in public when they were deposited on your 'Big Mac'.

and you're how old?  ???   ;D
I have to wait ten years yet.

Aah yes . and I think you qualify for an all day cheap travel ticket too ?

Aah yes . and I think you qualify for an all day cheap travel ticket too ?
Yes I am, two of my friends already qualify for the Travel Pass and both of them shoot around London all the time.

Yes I am, two of my friends already qualify for the Travel Pass and both of them shoot around London all the time.


Your friends. They're with the rifle association ?

Your friends. They're with the rifle association ?
Sniping from station to station on The Tube.

Sniping from station to station on The Tube.


They should go to Japan ... enjoy the 'bullet' train.

They should go to Japan ... enjoy the 'bullet' train.
Hence the name?

Seriously though, I am looking to forward to the Travel Pass and I will get out more.

You're excited because you can finally order off the Senior Citizen's Menu.


or you ask for the senior discount at Ross "Department" store

you can lose weight by chasing a toddler round the house, picking her up and picking up items after she's dropped them. 

AS you grow older, it become more difficult to lose weight.

... you're overjoyed  that your dentures stay in your mouth unlike that last time in public when they were deposited on your 'Big Mac'.

Or, like the case of Peter Falk, your glass eye doesn't pop out, and end up in someone's soup.

AS you grow older, it become more difficult to lose weight.


Yeah,That happens.

... you're overjoyed  that your dentures stay in your mouth unlike that last time in public when they were deposited on your 'Big Mac'.



Or, like the case of Peter Falk, your glass eye doesn't pop out, and end up in someone's soup.



I really hate when that happens.



Cat

AS you grow older, it become more difficult to lose weight.


That can be extremely frustrating.  :(

...your grandchildren have more teeth than you do.

...your grandchildren have more teeth than you do.
...you can purchase your own teeth!

...you can purchase your own teeth!


online,perhaps?

online,perhaps?
From the dentist would be better.

From the dentist would be better.


How much would one pair cost?

How much would one pair cost?
On the NHS (if you can get them) free.

You listen to your favorite oldies station b/c they play the good songs from the 60s & 70s (<--- sorry) and then you hear an 80's song come on... 

You listen to your favorite oldies station b/c they play the good songs from the 60s & 70s (<--- sorry) and then you hear an 80's song come on... 


That's when you know you're getting old.

You listen to your favorite oldies station b/c they play the good songs from the 60s & 70s (<--- sorry) and then you hear an 80's song come on... 
Then I wish for more 60s and 70s songs...

you start singing tunes from the 50's.  :o

you start singing tunes from the 50's.  :o
At least old tunes anyway.

At least old tunes anyway.


or music your Father listened to.

or music your Father listened to.
...and Grandfather?

...and Grandfather?


Or Great Grandfather?  :o

Or Great Grandfather?  :o
It is rare to met and talk to your Great Grandfather, but I know what you mean.

It is rare to met and talk to your Great Grandfather, but I know what you mean.


He passed away 34 years ago.

He passed away 34 years ago.
My Great Grandfathers died ages ago.

You listen to your favorite oldies station b/c they play the good songs from the 60s & 70s (<--- sorry) and then you hear an 80's song come on... 



Or worse: Growing up, there was a top 40 station & the oldies station. Now the oldies station is playing the stuff you use listen to on the top 40 station.


It is rare to met and talk to your Great Grandfather, but I know what you mean.


I was there to celebrate my great-grandfather & great-grandmother's 60 wedding anniversary. Unfortunately, both are no longer with us.  :\'( :\'( :\'(



Cat

I was there to celebrate my great-grandfather & great-grandmother's 60 wedding anniversary. Unfortunately, both are no longer with us.  :\'( :\'( :\'(



Cat
That must had been a wonderful occasion.

Forgive me from asking this form of a question. Were you at an age to truly appreciate the great-grandparents?

That must had been a wonderful occasion.

Forgive me from asking this form of a question. Were you at an age to truly appreciate the great-grandparents?



Oh yeah. I was about 7 or 8 when we lost both of them.  I have a lot of memories of both of them. I worshipped my great-grandfather. I thought he was the just the greatest (no pun intended). I remember the last time I saw my great-grandmother. My great-grandfather had already passed away at this point and she was living in a retirement community. They had a little store which they sold their crafts and there was this stuff turtle sitting in the window of the store. My great-grandmother noticed me staring at that  turtle. She had them open the store (since it was Sunday) so she could get me the turtle. That turtle is still sitting in my bed room-and I ALWAYS think of my great-grandmother every time I look at him. There are many things that I don't know about them that I would love to know. I do get a few stories from my grandmother.


Sorry to go off-but you asked and I start thinking about the two of them.



Cat

Oh yeah. I was about 7 or 8 when we lost both of them.  I have a lot of memories of both of them. I worshipped my great-grandfather. I thought he was the just the greatest (no pun intended). I remember the last time I saw my great-grandmother. My great-grandfather had already passed away at this point and she was living in a retirement community. They had a little store which they sold their crafts and there was this stuff turtle sitting in the window of the store. My great-grandmother noticed me staring at that  turtle. She had them open the store (since it was Sunday) so she could get me the turtle. That turtle is still sitting in my bed room-and I ALWAYS think of my great-grandmother every time I look at him. There are many things that I don't know about them that I would love to know. I do get a few stories from my grandmother.


Sorry to go off-but you asked and I start thinking about the two of them.



Cat
Wonderful. Being around 7 years, it is not the age you start asking about life when they were young. It is the deepest regret of my youth, but with the innocence of childhood, the child just does not know.

I think it's flat out weird when people YOUNGER than you start seeming not so different. Like it was only a few years ago that people who I only had a little time on (born around 1985) made me feel kinda old - since some of them didn't understand or like things I grew up with, or treated the '80s like they were "before their time".

Shoot, now I've seen people around that age who seem like they should be my elders! ;D

Oh I know what makes me feel old:

Remember in 1998 when Gas was 99 Cents a gallon.

Oh I know what makes me feel old:

Remember in 1998 when Gas was 99 Cents a gallon.


lol me too... I remember 97 cents... hey I think you know you're old when you're looking for the cents symbol on the keyboard... guess we don't use them anymore?  ;D

you start to answer one post see another answer that and then totally forget about the first post you were gonna comment on!


Also you're sitting in film class (as a transitional adult student or whatever they called it...) and they are about to screen The Color Purple and the stupid 18 year old behind you says.. Isn't that that really old movie with Prince?  >:(

You read posts like this:
Quote from Sugar168 i got real into watching LHOTP back in 97 during the summer...then at the end of summer i told my mom i would need to tape the show so i didn't miss the ending and my mom told me what happened...i was like how did you know? i had no clue that it was an old show...i thought it was new show and got mad when i found out it wasn't...she still brings that up to me often...

buses weren't so overcrowded.

You read posts like this:


I've gotten into alot of things secondhand too, it's all good. ;) There were lots of '80s movies that I didn't know existed or didn't come to enjoy until the '90s. Even alot of music, and I've listened to that practically before I could walk lol.

start singing an old song from the early 60's.

Oh I know what makes me feel old:

Remember in 1998 when Gas was 99 Cents a gallon.



lol me too... I remember 97 cents... hey I think you know you're old when you're looking for the cents symbol on the keyboard... guess we don't use them anymore?  ;D



I got one even worse that that. I remember my mother putting in a dime or 20 cents worth of gas into the car-and this was a station wagon, too-probably didn't get that great gas mileage.



Cat

you hear cracks in your body. :o

you hear cracks in your body. :o



...and you haven't even moved....  ;D

People refer to you as "sir" and not "kid"  :(

People refer to you as "sir" and not "kid"  :(



???    :-\\



Not necessarily!
















Arise .........






















http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2699/sirbabykm6.jpg

^ 'Sir Baby !'  :D ;D :D

...and you haven't even moved....  ;D



Well mine moved.

...when you think there is another thread on this very same subject.

...when you think there is another thread on this very same subject.



There Is?

There Is?
...there are two threads (at least)

...there are two threads (at least)


I must be getting old.

I must be getting old.
A popular thread to grow old with?

A popular thread to grow old with?


must have gray hair.

must have gray hair.
Having grey hair is a give-away.

Having grey hair is a give-away.


and you know you're getting old.

and you know you're getting old.
I have accepted it now.

I have accepted it now.


I'm trying to accept it.

I'm trying to accept it.
At one stage you will, you body will simply tell you so.

At one stage you will, you body will simply tell you so.


later on in life?