I'm not too much into American Cars. I am a big honda and Mazda guy. Honda has been dissapointing lately though. The 03 Accord redesign left me cold. Their current Acura line looks good with the TL and RL. Mazda's pretty darn good right now. The 6, 3 and RX-8 are sharp looking cars. I have seen the new MX-5 Miata and the front looks too boxy in my view. Maybe I will get used to it though. I prefer the 99-05 Miata bodystyle to the new one and the 90-97 model. The 90-97 Miata had the pop-out headlights. In my view if not for the 1990 Miata cars like the Honda S2000 and BMW Z3/Z4 would not be around. On a sidenote Nissan is probably the hottest manufacturer in the auto industry in the past few years.
I'm strictly a Chevy fan.....

I'm strictly a Chevy fan.....


what were you a couple of yrs ago when Tony drove a Pontiac ;)

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there's the boattail, thanks ;)

It's funny, because when people think of "cool" cars, Saturn is probably the last marque which comes to mind. However, next spring Saturn will introduce the "Sky" roadster, which is one of the coolest-looking GM cars I've seen in a long time, and IMO will be an instant classic. Feast your eyes:

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2007/2007-Saturn-Sky-Roadster-SA-Sunset-1920x1440.jpg
Yeah the Sky will be coming out. Also the Pontiac Solstice is another hot model that GM wants to do well. Past Saturns were well built but just boring looking. Maybe Saturn could turn it around like Mazda has recently and be thought of as "cool." Subaru did the same thing with the WRX. Subie had models like the Justy in the 90's which didn't stand out at all. The only GM divsion that is getting their cool back is Cadillac.

what were you a couple of yrs ago when Tony drove a Pontiac ;)
hey..Pontiac IS a General Motors brand!!!

There is also a Dale Earnhardt signature Monte Carlo...done as a tribute to him.

My ultimate car is unfortunately now being driven by Tony Stewart(and that's a good thing!)..and is a race car..not street legal..d@mn!

the other car of my dreams is driven by Dale Earnhardt Jr....and is also a race car...well I can always dream can't I?

hey..Pontiac IS a General Motors brand!!!


yes, but its not a chevy ;)

Yeah the Sky will be coming out. Also the Pontiac Solstice is another hot model that GM wants to do well. Past Saturns were well built but just boring looking. Maybe Saturn could turn it around like Mazda has recently and be thought of as "cool." Subaru did the same thing with the WRX. Subie had models like the Justy in the 90's which didn't stand out at all. The only GM divsion that is getting their cool back is Cadillac.
I've been hearing rumors online that Chevy is working on developing an AWD Cobalt to compete directly with the Subaru WRX and the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. If this is true, and GM can get this car out without watering it down somehow (which is all too often the case)...if GM actually campaigns it (with full factory support) in the World Rally Championship and it proves to be competitive against the WRX, Evo, and the various European models, then this means that perhaps there still is someone at GM who is in touch with what young people want and that there is still hope for the American auto industry.

AMERICA NEEDS A RALLY CAR!!!

AMERICA NEEDS A RALLY CAR!!!


so true, but first America needs to show an interest in rally racing :)

so true, but first America needs to show an interest in rally racing :)
I think that if it was promoted better over here, there'd be a great interest in rally racing. Myself, I think rally racing is 1000 times cooler than NASCAR.

I think that if it was promoted better over here, there'd be a great interest in rally racing. Myself, I think rally racing is 1000 times cooler than NASCAR.


NASCAR is so not cool.  How interesting is it to watch a car go around and around. ::)

Myself, I think rally racing is 1000 times cooler than NASCAR.



I agree, and I'll add all forms of open wheel racing, sports car and endurance racing, bike racing.

Nascar right now is king of the hill in the US, and I don't see that popularity dropping any time soon, and the old saying 'win on sunday, sell on monday' means alot to car manufactures :)

NASCAR is so not cool. How interesting is it to watch a car go around and around. ::)
There is A LOT more to NASCAR than what you see...there's a science to building those race cars...and a LOT of things, like drafting,downforce, aero-push, pit crew strategy, going into turns EXACTLY the right way at at the right time...and it's not all 'round and round'...the tracks are OVALS or TRI-OVALS...short tracks(Bristol, Richmond, Martinsville) intermediate tracks(Chicagoland, California) flat tracks(Pocono, Dover, Indianapolis'the Brickyard')..and the 'restrictor plate' superfast tracks such as Daytona and Talladega..and oh yeah TWO road course tracks, Infineon and Watkins Glen.

You would also find the Indianapolis 500 boring also..it's probably just 'round and round' to you..and dirt track racing like USAC would bore you too.

There is A LOT more to NASCAR than what you see...there's a science to building those race cars...and a LOT of things, like drafting,downforce, aero-push, pit crew strategy, going into turns EXACTLY the right way at at the right time...and it's not all 'round and round'...the tracks are OVALS or TRI-OVALS...short tracks(Bristol, Richmond, Martinsville) intermediate tracks(Chicagoland, California) flat tracks(Pocono, Dover, Indianapolis'the Brickyard')..and the 'restrictor plate' superfast tracks such as Daytona and Talladega..and oh yeah TWO road course tracks, Infineon and Watkins Glen.

You would also find the Indianapolis 500 boring also..it's probably just 'round and round' to you..and dirt track racing like USAC would bore you too.
And the NASCAR Busch Series actually had a road-course race outside of the US this season...Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez in Mexico....And yes the NASCAR guys do a lot of other types of racing on their off-time...even in other countries...Tony Stewart has even raced Down Under, dirt racing.

I've been hearing rumors online that Chevy is working on developing an AWD Cobalt to compete directly with the Subaru WRX and the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. If this is true, and GM can get this car out without watering it down somehow (which is all too often the case)...if GM actually campaigns it (with full factory support) in the World Rally Championship and it proves to be competitive against the WRX, Evo, and the various European models, then this means that perhaps there still is someone at GM who is in touch with what young people want and that there is still hope for the American auto industry.

AMERICA NEEDS A RALLY CAR!!!
Well they are already have the Cobalt SS as their enthusiast model.

Well they are already have the Cobalt SS as their enthusiast model.


I hear it's a fast little car but it's far from being a rally car, the rumours that La Sine Pesroh are refering to are whether GM is going to go into the world rally championship with a factory team and then market a street version of the race car, rally racing is huge in some parts of the world such as scandanavia and europe, it just never caught on in North America though. I hope GM dives right in :)

I hear it's a fast little car but it's far from being a rally car, the rumours that La Sine Pesroh are refering to are whether GM is going to go into the world rally championship with a factory team and then market a street version of the race car, rally racing is huge in some parts of the world such as scandanavia and europe, it just never caught on in North America though. I hope GM dives right in :)
What GM needs is a standout mid-size car. The Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, and Nissan Altima are killing General Motors in that area. The Pontiac G6 which was supposed to be their import killer had lukewarm reviews by car mags. The 2000 Impala did ok for awhile but as soon as the the Japanese designed all their mid-size vehicles it was like yesterday's news. The newer Impala really doesn't stick out that that much to me.

There is A LOT more to NASCAR than what you see...there's a science to building those race cars...and a LOT of things, like drafting,downforce, aero-push, pit crew strategy, going into turns EXACTLY the right way at at the right time...and it's not all 'round and round'...the tracks are OVALS or TRI-OVALS...short tracks(Bristol, Richmond, Martinsville) intermediate tracks(Chicagoland, California) flat tracks(Pocono, Dover, Indianapolis'the Brickyard')..and the 'restrictor plate' superfast tracks such as Daytona and Talladega..and oh yeah TWO road course tracks, Infineon and Watkins Glen.

You would also find the Indianapolis 500 boring also..it's probably just 'round and round' to you..and dirt track racing like USAC would bore you too.


Regardless of what you just said, I still think that NASCAR is boring.  Everything you just wrote means that it would be interesting to drive in NASCAR.  None of those things make NASCAR more intersting to watch.  Oh, and you may want to go back and read my post over because I didn't say the cars go around in circles.  Just because the tracks are oval or tri-oval does not mean the the cars don't go around the track over and over and over and over and over and over.  Around doesn't just mean going in a circle.

Regardless of what you just said, I still think that NASCAR is boring.  Everything you just wrote means that it would be interesting to drive in NASCAR.  None of those things make NASCAR more intersting to watch.  Oh, and you may want to go back and read my post over because I didn't say the cars go around in circles.  Just because the tracks are oval or tri-oval does not mean the the cars don't go around the track over and over and over and over and over and over.  Around doesn't just mean going in a circle.
Well I guess we differ about NASCAR...I'll just agree to disagree. Other types of racing bore me to tears. All the soooo-PC team order stuff in Formula One, road rallies, stuff like that is not my cup of Java...I love three-wide, drafting, beatin' and bangin', short-track mayhem, avoiding TBO(The Big One),pushing a teammate to the front of the pack with a nudge of the bumper..giving him a win..that's racing to me. That's what rocks my (sports) world.
Of course this is coming from a MAJOR Dale Earnhardt Sr(RIP) fan...

I agree, and I'll add all forms of open wheel racing, sports car and endurance racing, bike racing.

Nascar right now is king of the hill in the US, and I don't see that popularity dropping any time soon, and the old saying 'win on sunday, sell on monday' means alot to car manufactures :)
I love NASCAR. That will NEVER EVER change. Yes I've seen other types of racing, but IMO NASCAR beats 'em all. And I stated my reasons in another post.

What GM needs is a standout mid-size car. The Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, and Nissan Altima are killing General Motors in that area. The Pontiac G6 which was supposed to be their import killer had lukewarm reviews by car mags. The 2000 Impala did ok for awhile but as soon as the the Japanese designed all their mid-size vehicles it was like yesterday's news. The newer Impala really doesn't stick out that that much to me.


I think GMs biggest mistake recently is ending production of the camaros and firebirds, it looks like they are going to build a retro styled camaro for 07, I haven't heard much about it lately but that was the last I heard. They really missed the boat on this one, mustangs are selling like hotcakes and now they have to play catch-up :)

I think GMs biggest mistake recently is ending production of the camaros and firebirds, it looks like they are going to build a retro styled camaro for 07, I haven't heard much about it lately but that was the last I heard. They really missed the boat on this one, mustangs are selling like hotcakes and now they have to play catch-up :)
What about the new Dodge Charger...it looks horrible in my opinion, does no justice to the ORIGINAL Dodge Charger....What was DaimlerChrysler thinking!!

I loved the original Camaro, a couple guys I went to high school with had 'em.

What about the new Dodge Charger...it looks horrible in my opinion, does no justice to the ORIGINAL Dodge Charger....What was DaimlerChrysler thinking!!

I loved the original Camaro, a couple guys I went to high school with had 'em.


I agree about the new charger, and if you the liked the 67-69 camaros you should like the new one, if it happens :)

What about the new Dodge Charger...it looks horrible in my opinion, does no justice to the ORIGINAL Dodge Charger....What was DaimlerChrysler thinking!!

I loved the original Camaro, a couple guys I went to high school with had 'em.
I like the new Charger..not something I would buy but at least it looks distinctive without being ugly. I don;t care for the styling of the Chrysler 300.

I like the new Charger..not something I would buy but at least it looks distinctive without being ugly. I don;t care for the styling of the Chrysler 300.


I don't think the Charger is bad looking either.

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I took quite a few other photos at the auto show, but I didn't feel that they were appropriate for the "Show Us What You Look Like" thread because, well, I wasn't in them. Not to mention that I didn't mean for that thread to get too far off topic so I dug around and dusted off this old dinosaur. And so, without further ado, here's the rest of my pics from the 2006 Greater Kansas City International Auto Show:

Another view of the Camaro concept: