OK, folks. Your help is much appreciated. Us Mods decided to once again leave it up to you.

Funny, Hairspray, I was just about to write you an instant message to enquire as to how your mind was progressing in the matter.

We gave him lots of chances to behave on the previous software. He didn't abide.

I'm going to phrase the next part of my statement badly, Hairspray, and I hope that you understand it in the way it is intended.

I think sometimes (in previous incarnations of the board), we got people banned for a lot less than what Andrew has put the board through. Whether this has to do with the fact that annoying people are becoming much less intelligent nowadays, I have no idea, but that's beside the point.

Having given him the chance this time, (though some were not sure it was initially him), we now know that he cannot continue like this.

I apologise for this post. It's not my usual kind of wonderful happy post, and I understand if you edit or delete it, but I think that nothing's going to work unless we give him a full ban.

Sorry. :(

I apologise for this post.

None necessary. Any and all opinions are welcome, provided the Forum Guidelines are followed, of course.

Sorry if I come off as a bad guy for saying this...

Had Andrew/MasterSplinter not been so sneaky/deceitful in his methods in returning to the messageboard, or had at least tried NOT to continue the behavior (multiple/duplicate posts, not responding to posts, etc.) that got him banned before, I would say give him a chance. At least if he were really trying…
Andrew needs some professional help, or needs better help then he is receiving and don’t believe this board or members on it are able to provide him any relief from his problems, probably just the opposite. Venting his fears, anger, problems here (and not to a qualified therapist) may be more harmful to him in the long run.
I don’t believe that members of the board should suffer because of his problems (if he is not willing to get treatment) as a result of mental illness if it requires us to be inconvenienced, annoyed or distracted from participating in the group. It’s simply not fair to others, and not what the purpose of this board/forum is for.

I’m sorry to say it, but if he is unable to conform to the rules of the messageboard and respect others, then he doesn’t belong in the group.

Andrew, please seek out some help or better help ASAP.
We all will be glad to see you return here once you have gained some control over your life.

I was just beginning to suspect this towards the end of last week.

I am still undecided about whether to ban him.  Until the middle of the week I didn't really notice many problem posts.  This shows, to me, that maybe some of the lesson had been learnt.  However, I guess a ban is a ban and we wouldn't welcome back other banned people just cos we'd changed the software.

Last time he was here I voted not to ban him. Now, he writes inflammatory posts about his psychiatrists ('if only I could get hold of his number and address I will beat the s..t out of him' - how wrong is this?) and about his parents ('they gave me OCD, I work full time but I give my parents nothing, I said to them 'I owe them nothing and nothing is what I owe' - how pathetic and disrespectful!).

I also agree with GumbyPiz, if MasterSplinter was straight-forward about his identity, I'm sure we could give the man another try.

All I can say is 'This could have been a lot better for you, Andrew but you spoiled it.'  :-\\

I say if he broke forum rules after being given a warning - then he should be banned. ???

Sorry if I come off as a bad guy for saying this...

Had Andrew/MasterSplinter not been so sneaky/deceitful in his methods in returning to the messageboard, or had at least tried NOT to continue the behavior (multiple/duplicate posts, not responding to posts, etc.) that got him banned before, I would say give him a chance. At least if he were really trying…
Andrew needs some professional help, or needs better help then he is receiving and don’t believe this board or members on it are able to provide him any relief from his problems, probably just the opposite. Venting his fears, anger, problems here (and not to a qualified therapist) may be more harmful to him in the long run.
I don’t believe that members of the board should suffer because of his problems (if he is not willing to get treatment) as a result of mental illness if it requires us to be inconvenienced, annoyed or distracted from participating in the group. It’s simply not fair to others, and not what the purpose of this board/forum is for.

I’m sorry to say it, but if he is unable to conform to the rules of the messageboard and respect others, then he doesn’t belong in the group.

Andrew, please seek out some help or better help ASAP.
We all will be glad to see you return here once you have gained some control over your life.



I agree 100% with gumbypiz.  Andrew/Master Splinter needs professional help to gain some control of his life.  We cannot provide that on this board.

I think he should be banned...he is very disruptive and this new violent turn is very disturbing.

I think he should be banned...he is very disruptive and this new violent turn is very disturbing.
I agree. The violent tones in some of his posts are scary. :-\\

I agree 100% with gumbypiz.  Andrew/Master Splinter needs professional help to gain some control of his life.  We cannot provide that on this board.


I hear you, but does that mean that everyone who is not a mental-health professional should "ban" him IRL?  ???

With all due respect I am NOT the same person as
Andrew.

But, I do NOT wish to be banned. I am conforming to the rules.

With all due respect I am NOT the same person as
Andrew.

But, I do NOT wish to be banned. I am conforming to the rules.


Master,

I think people here are specifically upset with you making violent, threatening remarks about wanting to do bodily harm to a member of the health care community.  I believe that "making threatening comments" is a violation of the "Terms and Conditions" of this message board.

Does anyone know where I can find the T&C for this board?  I looked but could not find...

LB

He has seemed to have changed a bit since last time, but he is still repetitive!!! He is still venting about the medical profession and now his parents and some shrink he wants dead for putting him in a psych ward overnight (I personally think he needs to go back) .Check the OCD thread.  He needs help more than he needs to be on this board.  This just seems to be his place of venting.  I say ban him.....again.

I will say that he is right (somewhat) that he is not Andrew Coolest Talking Walnut Dude, but there is so much that is the same too and the violent tones are certainly a need of concern, but how would keeping him on this board help him....maybe someone should report him or something.

Master,

I think people here are specifically upset with you making violent, threatening remarks about wanting to do bodily harm to a member of the health care community.  I believe that "making threatening comments" is a violation of the "Terms and Conditions" of this message board.

Does anyone know where I can find the T&C for this board?  I looked but could not find...

LB


I would also say that making threatening remarks would be against the terms and conditions of his ISP too.

This is a tough call and I had trouble with it the first time around too. But, it is obvious that this guy needs some serious help-help that we can't provide for him here. I really don't know what the best course of action is.




Cat

Give him another chance; thats why i voted please dont ban him.

But, MasterSplinter, this is your last chance.

I cant believe we have this problem...again.BAN HIM...before he comes up with more of his"whats your favorite police car or dinosaur posts"

While I believe that there are certain other people who pose just as much a problem on this board who have not been dealt with (and who have also been banned before) as MasterSplinter, I think he should go, and so should other people who cause problems on these message boards.

But since we're on the subject of MasterSplinter...I do agree that he does need some serious help before he causes harm to himself or someone else. Threatening violence against someone in a public forum (even if it's not against someone on the forum) is serious, and someone should step in and do something. I think he needs to be more than banned. He should be reported to his ISP, and they can deal with him accordingly.

Absolutely Vile

I cant believe we have this problem...again.BAN HIM...before he comes up with more of his"whats your favorite police car or dinosaur posts"


I don't think this poll is being held because of police car or dinosaur threads.  There are plenty of threads like that on these boards.

This is truly, truly sad when a person have to disguise themselves under another nickname.  I agree, seek professional help.  It's for your own good.  You seem to annoy everyone here so go away.  :-\\

Last time he was here I voted not to ban him. Now, he writes inflammatory posts about his psychiatrists ('if only I could get hold of his number and address I will beat the s..t out of him' - how wrong is this?) and about his parents ('they gave me OCD, I work full time but I give my parents nothing, I said to them 'I owe them nothing and nothing is what I owe' - how pathetic and disrespectful!).

I also agree with GumbyPiz, if MasterSplinter was straight-forward about his identity, I'm sure we could give the man another try.

All I can say is 'This could have been a lot better for you, Andrew but you spoiled it.'  :-\\
:o :o :oHmmmmmm....he was sympathetic to his mother the last time. ::) ::) ::)

:o :o :oHmmmmmm....he was sympathetic to his mother the last time. ::) ::) ::)


It seems to me that he feels and does things that suit his own ends.  :-\\

I don't think this poll is being held because of police car or dinosaur threads.  There are plenty of threads like that on these boards.


That is a true point. In the 80s section a long time ago, I made up a thread and just simply wrote 'I LOVE NEON'.  ;D

With all due respect I am NOT the same person as
Andrew.

But, I do NOT wish to be banned. I am conforming to the rules.


I preferred AndrewCoolestDude to MasterSplinter.