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Subject: I Have to Say Something

Written By: CatwomanofV on 04/08/03 at 11:23 a.m.

I am really tired at the way some people are acting lately. If you disagree with someone in terms of politics, religion, whatever, that is fine. But, I am so tired of the nasty remarks people have been making to other people. I find it funny that people call others immature when they seem to be doing just the exact same thing. I have seen a couple of times where certain people (and you know who you are) make a joke and other people jump all over them-sometimes even as a "troll." I also find it disturbing how some people find it funny when others make nasty remarks.

I want to make a challege to ALL. Let's try to refrain from making personally snide remarks for...well, let's start with just a week and see how it goes. Let's go with that old adage of "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." Let's just try to keep it civil. Who wants to take me up on this challege?




Cat

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: L'Enfant Provocateur on 04/08/03 at 11:28 a.m.

If I recall correctly, it began to get much worse when Don Carlos appeared on the scene and began making personal comments in the 2000s board. Would it be a good time now to dig them up and see for ourselves?

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: princessofpop on 04/08/03 at 11:33 a.m.

Cat, I respect your opinion, however if you are referring to the thread that John Harvey started HIMSELF and asked for "pot shots", well then he's getting exactly what he wanted.  

Posting that stuff on HIS thread was all in fun, however, he needs to realize that if he continues to dish it out, then eventualy he's gonna get it right back.

And what people are doing on HIS thread has nothing to do with his political views.

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: L'Enfant Provocateur on 04/08/03 at 11:36 a.m.


Quoting:
... however, he needs to realize that if he continues to dish it out, then eventually he's gonna get it right back.

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I like this part of your sentence. I've heard that in reference to Raging Bull 8)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: CatwomanofV on 04/08/03 at 12:10 a.m.


Quoting:
Cat, I respect your opinion, however if you are referring to the thread that John Harvey started HIMSELF and asked for "pot shots", well then he's getting exactly what he wanted.  

Posting that stuff on HIS thread was all in fun, however, he needs to realize that if he continues to dish it out, then eventualy he's gonna get it right back.

And what people are doing on HIS thread has nothing to do with his political views.
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I am not refering to that thread. I have seen it in the thread about names and on the 2000s board.




Cat

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: CatwomanofV on 04/08/03 at 12:13 a.m.


Quoting:
If I recall correctly, it began to get much worse when Don Carlos appeared on the scene and began making personal comments in the 2000s board. Would it be a good time now to dig them up and see for ourselves?
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So, because DC started it, then you have to continue with it?




Cat

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Jerk on 04/08/03 at 12:34 a.m.


Quoting:



So, because DC started it, then you have to continue with it?




Cat
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No, you're right. It seems as if this place has succumbed to petty name-calling and over-ripe egos. Perhaps if members thought about what they are going to post more often we wouldn't have these problems. I'll be the first one to admit to that fault. I have actually curbed my 'tude quite a bit since the last time, BUT whenever I encounter obnoxious statements and obnoxious attitudes time after time after time it doesn't take too much to make the leap and return the favour.

Cccan't we just... git along ???

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Picador on 04/08/03 at 12:36 a.m.


Quoting:


No, you're right. It seems as if this place has succumbed to petty name-calling and over-ripe egos. Perhaps if members thought about what they are going to post more often we wouldn't have these problems. I'll be the first one to admit to that fault. I have actually curbed my 'tude quite a bit since the last time, BUT whenever I encounter obnoxious statements and obnoxious attitudes time after time after time it doesn't take too much to make the leap and return the favour.

Cccan't we just... git along ???
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I agree.  But when the Junior Communist Brigade plants obvious sarcastic statements to highlight his immaturity and ignorance, in a blatant attempt to bait our fellow penguins into a war of words, he'd better be prepared to face the consequences of his actions instead of whining about how much people hate him because he is the embodiment of a brick wall.

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: cs on 04/08/03 at 01:18 p.m.


Quoting:



So, because DC started it, then you have to continue with it?




Cat
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"If DC jumped off a bridge, would you follow him?"
"Yes, mom.  Right behind the FBI and CIA."
;)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 04/08/03 at 01:20 p.m.


Quoting:

"If DC jumped off a bridge, would you follow him?"
"Yes, mom.  Right behind the FBI and CIA."
;)
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Did he jump or was he pushed is the real question??? ;)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Don_Carlos on 04/08/03 at 01:20 p.m.

Cat, I quite agree  with you, and have tried to tone down my own rhetoric lately.  Hope you have noticed.  I have also tried to introduce a bit of levity into some threads, and joined in the levity on others, although it appears that some folks don't like my sense of humor.  But then, not everyone likes George Carlin, or Mort Sahl, or Robin Williams (not that I'm as funny as any of these guys).  Different strokes for different folks.  ;D

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Race_Bannon on 04/08/03 at 01:23 p.m.

Cat, I can understand what you are asking for, the 2000s board did get a bit heated for awhile but I think it's calming down a bit.  The reason for that heat?  War, a subject that is always accompanied by very polar and strong beliefs.  And while yes, it was a bit uncomfortable there, if you visit other boards you can view how ugly it can really get. We are a long way from that. :)  
I replied to Johns thread my opinion of his post and it's responces so I leave that portion out of this message.
I want to add for the sake of the 2000 post you are referring to, perhaps he was jumped a bit to quick and harsh, but he was new and didn't know the board well.  It's a good lesson learned to know what your saying to who before spouting off.  Then the kid blew it, his apologies started out good but then went petulent and denying, ruined the whole effect.  My response was to have fun with the original story because there was a bit of parallel to it.
Cat, we do get along pretty well, heated topics up in 2000 one minute and the next were having fun in the PPP and games board.  Even Don Carlos is posting here now and its interesting to read his politics, its great to see the fun side too.    

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Pithy Quote on 04/08/03 at 01:24 p.m.


Quoting:
Different strokes for different folks.  ;D
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That's, "It takes different strokes to move the world."

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Race_Bannon on 04/08/03 at 01:25 p.m.


Quoting:
Cat, I quite agree  with you, and have tried to tone down my own rhetoric lately.  Hope you have noticed.  I have also tried to introduce a bit of levity into some threads, and joined in the levity on others, although it appears that some folks don't like my sense of humor.  But then, not everyone likes George Carlin, or Mort Sahl, or Robin Williams (not that I'm as funny as any of these guys).  Different strokes for different folks.  ;D
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Yep DC, it's good to see you on this board too. :)  I was pointing that out in my last post and came back to find you here after it was submitted.

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Race_Bannon on 04/08/03 at 01:27 p.m.


Quoting:


Did he jump or was he pushed is the real question??? ;)
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Was it that bridge behind the "grassy knowl"? ;)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Don_Carlos on 04/08/03 at 01:40 p.m.


Quoting:


Did he jump or was he pushed is the real question??? ;)
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He Puuushed me, he puuushed me!!!  ;)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: CatwomanofV on 04/08/03 at 01:44 p.m.


Quoting:


I agree.  But when the Junior Communist Brigade plants obvious sarcastic statements to highlight his immaturity and ignorance, in a blatant attempt to bait our fellow penguins into a war of words, he'd better be prepared to face the consequences of his actions instead of whining about how much people hate him because he is the embodiment of a brick wall.
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This is an example of what I am talking about. So much for my challege for a week. You couldn't even last a day.




Cat

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Nitpick on 04/08/03 at 01:46 p.m.


Quoting:
So much for my challege for a week. You couldn't even last a day.
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"challenge"   ;)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: cs on 04/08/03 at 01:48 p.m.


Quoting:

"If DC jumped off a bridge, would you follow him?"
"Yes, mom.  Right behind the FBI and CIA."
;)
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I hope DC knows this was a little poke of fun at his mention on the FBI file on him in another thread.  I didn't intend for it to be mean.  Not totally mean, anyway. ;)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Taoist on 04/08/03 at 01:51 p.m.


Quoting:
I hope DC knows this was a little poke of fun at his mention on the FBI file on him in another thread.  I didn't intend for it to be mean.  Not totally mean, anyway. ;)
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I get my own back...
I keep a file on the FBI ;D

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Don_Carlos on 04/08/03 at 01:53 p.m.


Quoting:

I hope DC knows this was a little poke of fun at his mention on the FBI file on him in another thread.  I didn't intend for it to be mean.  Not totally mean, anyway. ;)
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And I thought it was very cute  ;) no offense taken  ;D

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: cs on 04/08/03 at 01:56 p.m.


Quoting:


And I thought it was very cute  ;) no offense taken  ;D
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See?  I'm not just a be-yach.  I'm a pretty good smarta$$ too. ;D

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: cs on 04/08/03 at 01:57 p.m.


Quoting:


He Puuushed me, he puuushed me!!!  ;)
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Good one DC!
Nice to see you somewhat "un-stressed" in a thread. ;)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Don_Carlos on 04/08/03 at 02:07 p.m.


Quoting:

Good one DC!
Nice to see you somewhat "un-stressed" in a thread. ;)
End Quote



Well, if you all want to keep me unstressed, just make sure my woman has "treated me nice" and I have a nice glass of Baccardi select next to me while I type.   ;)  I DO have a lighter side  ;D

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: cs on 04/08/03 at 02:25 p.m.


Quoting:


Well, if you all want to keep me unstressed, just make sure my woman has "treated me nice"   End Quote


I can't help you with that one!

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Paul_S. on 04/08/03 at 11:29 p.m.


Quoting:
I am really tired at the way some people are acting lately. If you disagree with someone in terms of politics, religion, whatever, that is fine. But, I am so tired of the nasty remarks people have been making to other people. I find it funny that people call others immature when they seem to be doing just the exact same thing. I have seen a couple of times where certain people (and you know who you are) make a joke and other people jump all over them-sometimes even as a "troll." I also find it disturbing how some people find it funny when others make nasty remarks.

I want to make a challege to ALL. Let's try to refrain from making personally snide remarks for...well, let's start with just a week and see how it goes. Let's go with that old adage of "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." Let's just try to keep it civil. Who wants to take me up on this challege?

Cat
End Quote



Hey Cat, I with you on refraining from immature behavior, personal or snide remarks.  

But I doubt I'll be able to post on these boards any longer in a little while.  I'm sure to get banned soon for speaking my mind.

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Don_Carlos on 04/09/03 at 02:16 p.m.


Quoting:


Hey Cat, I with you on refraining from immature behavior, personal or snide remarks.  

But I doubt I'll be able to post on these boards any longer in a little while.  I'm sure to get banned soon for speaking my mind.
End Quote



To begin with, Paul, I don't think Cat was asking for more censorship, so I don't think that anyone here is asking for any kind of litmus test regarding political opinions.  I certainly don't.  BUT,  I have made snide remarks about other posters, and I have been called a liar by one.  I have been known to mis-remember facts, but when I assert that I am a college professor and am doubted, I am being called a liar.  I think that is uncalled for, insulting, and if this was 1803, would result in pistols at 40 paces.  I know you did not question my verasity (so I certainly don't demand satisfaction from you ;D)
But it is that kind of insulting, condescending, patronizing rhetoric that Cat wants us to avoid.  

Keep speaking your mind - please!  Some will agree, some will disagree.  But once your ideas are on the table (my undergraduate group discussion professor said) they are no longer YOUR ideas.  His message was, disown them, listen to what others have to say, and re-think.  I think that is the rational way to proceed, don't you?

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Gis on 04/10/03 at 02:51 a.m.


Quoting:


To begin with, Paul, I don't think Cat was asking for more censorship, so I don't think that anyone here is asking for any kind of litmus test regarding political opinions.  I certainly don't.  BUT,  I have made snide remarks about other posters, and I have been called a liar by one.  I have been known to mis-remember facts, but when I assert that I am a college professor and am doubted, I am being called a liar.  I think that is uncalled for, insulting, and if this was 1803, would result in pistols at 40 paces.  I know you did not question my verasity (so I certainly don't demand satisfaction from you ;D)
But it is that kind of insulting, condescending, patronizing rhetoric that Cat wants us to avoid.  

Keep speaking your mind - please!  Some will agree, some will disagree.  But once your ideas are on the table (my undergraduate group discussion professor said) they are no longer YOUR ideas.  His message was, disown them, listen to what others have to say, and re-think.  I think that is the rational way to proceed, don't you?

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College professor!!
So you are one of them !Back,back I say(hisses and makes sign of cross) It's your sort that give me work to do and keep me away from the internet !! You and those darn students......
Incase you weren't aware I work in a university library ;D  

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: John_Harvey on 04/10/03 at 11:36 a.m.

I have something to say: "Banana".... Thank you.

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: QueenAmenRa on 04/10/03 at 04:24 p.m.

Did I do anything, guys?  :-[  Cuz ya know sometimes my tourette/epileptic personality will possess the Real Ruth...  ::)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Race_Bannon on 04/10/03 at 05:16 p.m.


Quoting:
Did I do anything, guys?  :-[  Cuz ya know sometimes my tourette/epileptic personality will possess the Real Ruth...  ::)
End Quote

Of course not. :)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: QueenAmenRa on 04/10/03 at 05:48 p.m.

Yay! Ok cuz sometimes people will *yell* at me so I don't know if I'm one of those people Cat's talkin bout or not. Oh well

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Don_Carlos on 04/10/03 at 06:06 p.m.


Quoting:

College professor!!
So you are one of them !Back,back I say(hisses and makes sign of cross) It's your sort that give me work to do and keep me away from the internet !! You and those darn students......
Incase you weren't aware I work in a university library ;D  
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No, I didn't know that you were a U. librarian.  Now that I do, I think... no I know I love ;D  I always tell my students that our reference librarians should become their best friends on campus.  I'v taught at 5 different colleges (3 part time - 2 full time) and have never encountered a librarian who wasn't well informed and ready and willing to be helpful.  The one where I am now - since 1986 - even arranged for me to get microfilm from the Library of Congress.  Shipped to a little known prof at a little known state college in a little known state.  I'm sure you are just as dedicated.  So, for all the students and all the faculty that you help, thanks  ;D

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Don_Carlos on 04/10/03 at 06:10 p.m.


Quoting:
I have something to say: "Banana".... Thank you.
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A great Woody Allen film - I think his best  ;D Viva la revolucion  ;) (hope these smilies are ok with everybody ;D)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Don_Carlos on 04/10/03 at 06:14 p.m.

Personally, I think Cat posted this thread on the wrong board.  As I see it, most of the people she was aiming it at (myself excluded - mea culpa) don't show up here.  And the beat goes on.

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: John_Harvey on 04/10/03 at 08:42 p.m.

Actually the movie was "Bananas" not "Banana", but it was a most enjoyable movie. Ahem.

Castro-esque guy: "Every child under the age of sixteen... is now sixteen. Everyone in the country must change their underwear every hour on the hour... and they must wear them on the outside so that they may be checked!"

Allen: "The man's gone mad with power!"

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Gis on 04/11/03 at 02:05 a.m.



Quoting:


No, I didn't know that you were a U. librarian.  Now that I do, I think... no I know I love ;D  I always tell my students that our reference librarians should become their best friends on campus.  I'v taught at 5 different colleges (3 part time - 2 full time) and have never encountered a librarian who wasn't well informed and ready and willing to be helpful.  The one where I am now - since 1986 - even arranged for me to get microfilm from the Library of Congress.  Shipped to a little known prof at a little known state college in a little known state.  I'm sure you are just as dedicated.  So, for all the students and all the faculty that you help, thanks  ;D
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Now if only I could get my swell head through the door I could go and do some work !! :)

Subject: Re: I Have to Say Something

Written By: Don_Carlos on 04/12/03 at 01:36 p.m.


Quoting:


Now if only I could get my swell head through the door I could go and do some work !! :)
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Do I detect a bit of false modesty, or is it embarasment at a compliment  ???  ;)  I really did mean what I said.  You librarians are terrific.  ;D