Welcome to the archived messages from In The 00s. This archive stretches back to 1998 in some instances, and contains a nearly complete record of all the messages posted to inthe00s.com. You will also find an archive of the messages from inthe70s.com, inthe80s.com, inthe90s.com and amiright.com before they were combined to form the inthe00s.com messageboard.
If you are looking for the active messages, please click here. Otherwise, use the links below or on the right hand side of the page to navigate the archives.
Subject: Any Lord of the Rings experts out there?
Question: In “The Fellowship of the Ring”, Gandolf looses his staff and is banished to the top of the tower. Then later, he has his staff again. Will the next movie explain this? Maybe the book explains it. Can anyone shed some light on this.
Subject: Re: Any Lord of the Rings experts out there?
Quoting:
Question: In “The Fellowship of the Ring”, Gandolf looses his staff and is banished to the top of the tower. Then later, he has his staff again. Will the next movie explain this? Maybe the book explains it. Can anyone shed some light on this.End Quote
That's an excellent question! I was wondering that myself.
Hopefully someone else will fill us in.
Subject: Re: Any Lord of the Rings experts out there?
Well, he escaped on the eagle-warrior's back...maybe it was a newly-fashioned staff, or perhaps, as Gandalf the White in the later books, he no longer needed it and it was just for show so was just a generic staff.
I'm sure Philbo could shed some light on this ;)
Subject: Re: Any Lord of the Rings experts out there?
Ever notice that sometimes they have a packhorse, and sometimes they don't? When they're hiding from the birds under the rocks, no horse. Then, at the gates of Moria, a horse!
And Gandalf can get staves from anywhere.
Subject: Re: Any Lord of the Rings experts out there?
Quoting:
And Gandalf can get staves from anywhere.
End Quote
That's pretty much how I see it: a wizard's staff has no special connotation in Tolkein (even if it does have a knob on the end... no, that's Pratchett ;-)), so Gandalf could quite easily make himself another.
Phil
PS I think the horse (Ned, or something like that) is always there: when they're hiding, he's led out of shot...
Subject: Re: Any Lord of the Rings experts out there?
Quoting:
I think the horse (Ned, or something like that) is always there: when they're hiding, he's led out of shot...
End Quote
The horse's name was Bill. And they don't have time to lead him out of shot. From memory, he's not even there when Merry and Pippin are wrestling with Boromir, or when Frodo stumbles and loses the ring on the mountain ridge (there's an aerial shot of them immediately before that - no horse).
Subject: Re: Any Lord of the Rings experts out there?
Quoting:
The horse's name was Bill. And they don't have time to lead him out of shot. From memory, he's not even there when Merry and Pippin are wrestling with Boromir, or when Frodo stumbles and loses the ring on the mountain ridge (there's an aerial shot of them immediately before that - no horse).
End Quote
I imagine the film makers weren't paying close attention to the horse.. I know in the book, they buy the horse from a somewhat shady character in Bree, and they have him until they get to Moria, where they have to set him free.. Tolkien spends more time discussing the story around the horse, than some of the scenes that last ten minutes in the movie..
Subject: Re: Any Lord of the Rings experts out there?
Quoting:
I imagine the film makers weren't paying close attention to the horse.. End Quote
I agree, but that's my point, because the rest of the film is so precise, and Jackson has such an eye for detail. It's just a glaring continuity error.