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Subject: Pet Peeves
This was started before "4/11" (better known as "The Troll Incident") but I couldn't find it here. So what are your pet peeves? Mine are companies that condone deceit and lying and dirty tactics, Mike Tyson, any more O.J. stories, police brutality, and broken glasses (for the fine British folks, I meant literally ;))
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There are many, but one that stands out lately is the way the media has gotten hold of this incident with the Inglewood police. First of all, yes it was wrong, and pretty sickening to watch. But here is my problem. If you only went by what gets reported on the news, you would swear that only minorities are ever brutalized by the police in this country. Wrong is wrong, I don't care what color the victim is.
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Yes, I agree Lester. White women are brutalized too.(j/k)
But let's not turn this into a thread on police brutality or racism. We were all shocked and disgusted by what we saw. :(
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There are many, but one that stands out lately is the way the media has gotten hold of this incident with the Inglewood police. First of all, yes it was wrong, and pretty sickening to watch. But here is my problem. If you only went by what gets reported on the news, you would swear that only minorities are ever brutalized by the police in this country. Wrong is wrong, I don't care what color the victim is.
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There are many, but one that stands out lately is the way the media has gotten hold of this incident with the Inglewood police. First of all, yes it was wrong, and pretty sickening to watch. But here is my problem. If you only went by what gets reported on the news, you would swear that only minorities are ever brutalized by the police in this country. Wrong is wrong, I don't care what color the victim is.
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I say-yed-uh, Can I get a Amen-uh? Preach it, brother man-uh!
You'd also be amazed at the crimes they publicise committed by whites that minorities commit and get no press for in certain areas.
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Yes, I agree Lester. White women are brutalized too.(j/k)
But let's not turn this into a thread on police brutality or racism. We were all shocked and disgusted by what we saw. :(
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Hang on a sec J.C. It was your original post that first mentioned police brutality. You asked a question and I gave an answer. Sorry if it wasn't to your liking.
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Actually, that was one of the things I listed as pet peeves. I can start up a thread for police brutality if you like. But I only listed it as a pet peeve. Soory, you took it the wrong way. :-/
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Hang on a sec J.C. It was your original post that first mentioned police brutality. You asked a question and I gave an answer. Sorry if it wasn't to your liking.
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Actually, that was one of the things I listed as pet peeves. I can start up a thread for police brutality if you like. But I only listed it as a pet peeve. Soory, you took it the wrong way. :-/
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And that's what I listed it as... a pet peeve, in relation to media coverage.
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Ahh, media coverage. Another one of my pet peeves. ;D
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And that's what I listed it as... a pet peeve, in relation to media coverage.
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So many to mention - so little time :
This one has been covered before - but here goes again :
Take away shops that can't get your order right, that can't be bothered serving you as the spotty assistant is to busy talking to one of their friends (on either side of the counter), or are just plain slow.
Or just plain rude and ignorant people - that covers a multitude of their sins...
FB :)
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So many to mention - so little time :
This one has been covered before - but here goes again :
Take away shops that can't get your order right, that can't be bothered serving you as the spotty assistant is to busy talking to one of their friends (on either side of the counter), or are just plain slow.
Or just plain rude and ignorant people - that covers a multitude of their sins...
FB :)
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Of course, the flipside to that is when one is accosted by too many sales people...and two I am going to mention are Menard's and Kinney Shoes, (back when they were around).
Menard's has a salesperson to customer ratio of about 5-1. I was going through the store one day, and I really got ticked off by the time I got from one end of the store to another...I finally asked one of the folks if they got paid a dollar for everytime he asked somebody "Can I help you find anything?"
He, of course, said "I wish!" I mean, really-I could literally run into two salespeople in the same isle, and they could overhear me say "Just looking" to one-and the other one would ask anyway!
And when Kinney's was open at our mall, I could be walking past the store, and they would try to grab me into the store to look at shoes. If by chance I would go in, invariably I would pick a shoe, say "Give me a size 9", and off they would scurry into the backroom. They would always come back to me with 2 shoeboxes and say "I don't have a 9, but I have a size 10 and a size 7-1/2. Would you like to try them on?" What am I, Cinderella? I wear a nine! Ta ta!
Being overly helpful can be a pain, too! ;)
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Of course, the flipside to that is when one is accosted by too many sales people...and two I am going to mention are Menard's and Kinney Shoes, (back when they were around).
Menard's has a salesperson to customer ratio of about 5-1. I was going through the store one day, and I really got ticked off by the time I got from one end of the store to another...I finally asked one of the folks if they got paid a dollar for everytime he asked somebody "Can I help you find anything?"
He, of course, said "I wish!" I mean, really-I could literally run into two salespeople in the same isle, and they could overhear me say "Just looking" to one-and the other one would ask anyway!
And when Kinney's was open at our mall, I could be walking past the store, and they would try to grab me into the store to look at shoes. If by chance I would go in, invariably I would pick a shoe, say "Give me a size 9", and off they would scurry into the backroom. They would always come back to me with 2 shoeboxes and say "I don't have a 9, but I have a size 10 and a size 7-1/2. Would you like to try them on?" What am I, Cinderella? I wear a nine! Ta ta!
Being overly helpful can be a pain, too! ;)
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I agree, Banasy. If I go into a store, I will seek a salesperson if I have a question. Otherwise, leave me alone! ::)
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Of course, the flipside to that is when one is accosted by too many sales people...and two I am going to mention are Menard's and Kinney Shoes, (back when they were around).
Menard's has a salesperson to customer ratio of about 5-1. I was going through the store one day, and I really got ticked off by the time I got from one end of the store to another...I finally asked one of the folks if they got paid a dollar for everytime he asked somebody "Can I help you find anything?"
He, of course, said "I wish!" I mean, really-I could literally run into two salespeople in the same isle, and they could overhear me say "Just looking" to one-and the other one would ask anyway!
And when Kinney's was open at our mall, I could be walking past the store, and they would try to grab me into the store to look at shoes. If by chance I would go in, invariably I would pick a shoe, say "Give me a size 9", and off they would scurry into the backroom. They would always come back to me with 2 shoeboxes and say "I don't have a 9, but I have a size 10 and a size 7-1/2. Would you like to try them on?" What am I, Cinderella? I wear a nine! Ta ta!
Being overly helpful can be a pain, too! ;)
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I really hate it when you go somewhere and you are just looking, they'll say "Can I help you?" And when you really need it, they're nowhere to be found…
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I really hate it when you go somewhere and you are just looking, they'll say "Can I help you?" And when you really need it, they're nowhere to be found…
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Or when you make the mistake of accepting the offer, only to find that you know more about the product than they do.....
FB :(
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when your in the express line at the grocery store, and the person ahead of you has a shoping cart, then when they get to the checkout, they write a check. that always ticks me off (even if they have less than ten items).
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when your in the express line at the grocery store, and the person ahead of you has a shoping cart, then when they get to the checkout, they write a check. that always ticks me off (even if they have less than ten items).
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Not only that, but they stand in front of their buggies and refuse to move!
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when your in the express line at the grocery store, and the person ahead of you has a shoping cart, then when they get to the checkout, they write a check. that always ticks me off (even if they have less than ten items).
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Hey, Screwball!! That's me!!! I didn't mean to hold you up! ;D
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Not only that, but they stand in front of their buggies and refuse to move!
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Nope, not guilty of this one... but I do write checks (or swipe my check card). I never carry more than four or five dollars on me...
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My pet peeve is when it's during rushhour on the F Train and there's always a problem where the friggin'train gets stuck and I get paranoid where I think I'm gonna be late or something.train suck.They'll never get any better. -howard- 8)
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My main pet peeve - Mean people.
Mean People Suck!
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My main pet peeve - Mean people.
Mean People Suck!
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I could not agree with you more, Hairspray. ;D
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When it's a busy day at Wal-Mart and only a small number of checkout lanes are open. Why the hell do they build 20 lanes if they only use 5?
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Mine is still the same as it ever was...people who sit and smack or pop their gum....talk about driving me nuts....I either have to say something or get up and leave....thank god lately I have control over my mouth!!! ;)
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When it's a busy day at Wal-Mart and only a small number of checkout lanes are open. Why the hell do they build 20 lanes if they only use 5?
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That's something I don't understand either. There are about 30 checkout lines and not very many are open, and those that are, have people with loads waiting in them…
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That's something I don't understand either. There are about 30 checkout lines and not very many are open, and those that are, have people with loads waiting in them…
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It drives me crazy too but, I think I have at least one of the answers. Just like at Target(where I was a supervisor at the front end) it's the quality of people hired. We'd always have enough people scheduled but getting them to show up is a whole different story. If it's Saturday and it's a nice day, why show up for work?
Subject: Re: Pet Peeves
Ohhhhhhh...where to begin......LOL
I think my biggest pet peeve of all is when drivers don't use their turn signals!! Come on people....it's not rocket science here...if you're gonna turn...PUT ON YOUR INDICATOR!! I'm not Kreskin behind you!! Sheesh!! Turn signals were invented for a reason!
Thanks for letting me vent :)
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Ohhhhhhh...where to begin......LOL
I think my biggest pet peeve of all is when drivers don't use their turn signals!! Come on people....it's not rocket science here...if you're gonna turn...PUT ON YOUR INDICATOR!! I'm not Kreskin behind you!! Sheesh!! Turn signals were invented for a reason!
Thanks for letting me vent :)
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uh oh....I think I am one of those people....I never use my turn signal...only if I really need to let someone know where I am going....but to turn it on just to change lanes on the interstate...just seems like a waste of time....I get fussed to about this all the time....but I have yet to break the habit of "non-blinking" ::)
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Everything....... :)
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First of all, I have several! ;D Slow traffic when I'm in a hurry, Not enough registers open at the grocery store or at Wal-
mart. The biggest one is when others look at my magazines before I can. That one I can't explain, it just plains makes me crazy!
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... but I do write checks (or swipe my check card). I never carry more than four or five dollars on me...
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I'm that guy too, WL. Hardly ever carry cash...If I am writing a check, though, I try to have it halfway completed so by the time the cashier rings up my groceries all I have to do is enter the amount of the bill.
Of course, 'round here Express Lane is a misnomer... :-/ :P
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My pet peeve: Those drivers who think I have a bumper sticker on the front of my car that reads "Oh please pull out right in front of me. I just love to slam on brakes." HELLO?!! You're getting ready to pull out onto a 45 MPH street from a sidestreet, and I'm going 50 and about 500 feet from your path of entry. Can't you see me coming?!!? My truck is bright green for pete's sake! >:( Did ya even l :ok before pulling out, bucko? Sheesh!
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I'm that guy too, WL. Hardly ever carry cash...If I am writing a check, though, I try to have it halfway completed so by the time the cashier rings up my groceries all I have to do is enter the amount of the bill.
Of course, 'round here Express Lane is a misnomer... :-/ :P
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Me, too. I start writing my check before it is even my turn, that way all I have to do is write in the amount. If I am in the express lane, I try to have cash...even though you get out of the normal lanes quicker than the express.
I have the same problem with other drivers as you, DJ. My truck is blue with pink and light blue swirls. Not exactly invisible. Then again, this is Utah. I think we have the worst drivers per capita than any other state.
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The biggest one is when others look at my magazines before I can. That one I can't explain, it just plains makes me crazy!
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Me too! My magazines or my newspaper! I don't mind sharing, but can I please read it first??!!
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When I'm on the train and they all start staring at me.It's like they all look like zombies.Can't all people just read a book or newspaper or something besides staring at one another? No wonder people wear sunglasses these days.I don't blame them. -howard-
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My main pet peeve - Mean people.
Mean People Suck!
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What if they don't know they're mean? Do they still suck? Like that old hag in Gremlins... she probably didn't know she was mean...
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My pet peeve is when it's during rushhour on the F Train and there's always a problem where the friggin'train gets stuck and I get paranoid where I think I'm gonna be late or something.train suck.They'll never get any better. -howard- 8)
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Try the metro in Paris....now that's what I call very efficient!!! 8)
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Try the metro in Paris....now that's what I call very efficient!!! 8)
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Paris?? Paris?? ??? I live in New York,sweetie.I wish I could go live in Paris.I hate working in the city.population explosion.-howard-
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I think my biggest pet peeve is being in traffic, putting on my signal to change lanes and slowing down a bit in order to fit into the traffic in the next lane, and then suddenly, the driver behind me pulls over and passes me, holding up my lane change.... Heeeello? What did you think my turn signal was on for? ::)
I also hate people who are such a friggin' hurry that they have to honk (at me or any other driver) who does not turn or pull away at a green light within a split second. I have been known to lean out my window and shout "Take a valium!" But of course that can get you shot in L.A. :-/
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Kudo's to Zella for using her turn signals!!!
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When buses are used like telephone booths.I guess I shouldn't complain cause I do it myself. -howard-
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I think my biggest pet peeve is being in traffic, putting on my signal to change lanes and slowing down a bit in order to fit into the traffic in the next lane, and then suddenly, the driver behind me pulls over and passes me, holding up my lane change.... Heeeello? What did you think my turn signal was on for? ::)
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I'm with you, Zella.
I also get annoyed at the people who are perfectly well-abled and yet believe "FIRE LANE" and "NO PARKING" were grafittied in front of the grocery store/Target/shopping center by a twelve year-old hoodlum. Yes, this kid had nothing else but a yellow can of spray paint, perfect manuscript and a vision that he could deter people from parking right in front of the store by displaying his artwork on asphalt near the storefront. In reality, his masterpiece causes chaos, illiteracy and utter disregard for the law. I'm surprised law enforcement hasn't caught on to this phenomenon...they could rake in a fortune in citation funds where I live.
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when people start staring at me when I'm on my cell.What are they looking at?like they don't do it themselves? I mean gimmie a break.They should be used to it by now.The city is swarming with em'.
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I cannot stand people with no common sense. I work at a railway station on Sundays. We put out doormats, signs to advertise upcoming events, window shades and security doors are open and they get caught without a ticket because they didn't know we were open. >:( >:(
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I must digress....
So, Reddyrules, what exactly are parramatta eels? Isn't that what killed King Henry I? ??? ::)
Okay, everyone, carry on with your peeves....
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So many to mention - so little time :
FB :)
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Well said, my friend ;)
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Well said, my friend ;)
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Ah don't start me - oh now see what you've done R&RF ! My fingers have started typing and I can't help myself !
Bus Drivers who freak out if you give them any more than a 5 dollar note, but when they change it you can see that they must be carrying hundreds of dollars in change.....
Trains that have the aircon up full blast in winter, but the same aircon seems to go on the fritz when it's 100 (of your) degrees and 99% humidity (Reddyrules, you work for QR and I hold you vicariously responsible - be prepared with an answer tomorrow - or preferably a refund for every trip I've taken under such intolerable conditions ! ;))...
The drivers on our street who think it's a runway not a road...
And back to shops in general :
When a place has a big long counter and it's packed with customers, and you do you best to point out that someone was there before you, but other people don't return the same courtesy, or
The shop assistant just serves the next person their lazy eyes fall upon....
Grrrrrrrr. I hate that. Queues annoy the crap out of me, but I'd rather stand in one and be served in the right order....
But back to the original comment, so many gripes, so little time !
FB ;)
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>:( >:( >:(People in cars who roll ver a stop sign without making a complete stop.They do a lot of that in California,and it IS illegal! >:(Cheers!
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People who,during highway travelling,HAVE to stop or slow waaaaay down.Not just for accidents--flat tires,one policeman and a motorist that got stopped(for no directionals,no doubt LOL)I have to wait and creep down the road,no dout in back of a car that burns oil >:(
BTW,directional signals are optional on new cars in this state ;D
People who try to use the express lane with a cart full of groceries.When caught they say"I didnt see the sign that says 10 items only"D'uh......
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MTA is my pet peeve."GRRR"( >:()
Howard
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Ahh, listing all my pet peeves. Just exactly what I needed to do tonight. Thanks to whoever kindly bumped this up.
--Scott Stapp and Creed is my biggest pet peeve at the moment. Part of the reason may be because their songs are overplayed and annoying, but I hate how Scott Stapp thinks he's Jesus or something in all his videos. Also, that annoying clay man that always is rising out of the ground. Come to think of it, almost ALL their videos look the same. Oh, and I used to be a Creed fan, but I'm not any more, so I'm better now.
--People who constantly quote movies I have never seen before. It's okay if someone tells me a funny line or two once in awhile, but I have a friend who does this ALL OF THE TIME. He will describe the whole scene, tell me "this guy did this, and then she said this, and he said this", while he expects me to LISTEN. I don't even smile and nod anymore. If I WANTED to hear lines from your stupid movies that you always quote, I would watch them MYSELF. But there is no need to, because you have just told me the whole freaking thing.
--People who expect me to carry on a conversation with them on instant messaging while they abbreviate every possible word that they can. "2" and "U" and "R" don't really bother me; I do that too sometimes. But when you talk lyke this!!!!111 omg!!! dat iz SO anoying!!!!!!11111111111111
--People who leave their broken (and sometimes unbroken) golf tees just lie around on the tee-off box of the golf course. Why leave your crap lie around? There is a little cup that holds broken tees, in case you haven't noticed yet.
--People who don't brush their teeth. If I don't have to talk to you, fine. But when you speak right into my face, I have to look away from you. And then you ask "why are you looking away?" Urgh.
--People who talk to me on AOL when I have an away message on. If you want to leave me some messages for me to read when I get back, fine, please do so. But, please, PLEASE do not expect me to carry on a conversation with you while I'm away! "Hello? HELLO??!?!?! ARE U THERE!?!!!!!!!?!??!111111111 Hello?? HELLO?????" While my away message keeps blinking up--haven't you noticed yet?
Ah. Other than that, I'm a really easy person to get along with. ;D
Thanks, I needed to vent. More later, probably. :-/
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A lot of things get on my nerves. My brother and sister annoy me, my parents bug me too, I can't stand reality TV and the Pirates are going to have a sub .500 season again.
But you want to know what really bugs the bejezzus out of me? War. It really puts a damper on my day, I mean, nothing sucks more than war. Am I right, folks?
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My pet peeve is injustice on any level.
The British man Tony Martin was protecting his home from a burgular by shooting him in the leg. He has just been released from a prison sentence - me personally I thought shooting someone was a bit drastic, but as long as it dettered him from the property, and it didn't kill him, I feel that Martin needed to protect it.
What was worse was that the burgular was trying to sue Martin for 'his lessened sex life'. Of course, it didn't get any attention from the courts.
I think Tony Martin should not have gone to jail. :-/
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Almost four pages and no one has brought up one of the most annoying things that nearly everyone has to deal with:
YOUR BOSS
For example, I have a supervisor named Richard who is a fat, condescending CENSORED who apparently believes that I need seven minutes of lecturing to understand a simple instruction. Also, there's another guy, David (who thankfully I don't have to deal with very often), who looks just like the boss from Office Space, but not as smarmy. David is more of the loud, cheerful, obnoxious type.
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The British man Tony Martin was protecting his home from a burgular by shooting him in the leg. He has just been released from a prison sentence - me personally I thought shooting someone was a bit drastic, but as long as it dettered him from the property, and it didn't kill him, I feel that Martin needed to protect it.
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I think Tony Martin should not have gone to jail. :-/
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What the press (especially the Mail) doesn't like to say: Tony Martin had had his gun license revoked - the shotgun he used was held illegally. He fired through a closed door, so he wouldn't necessarily have known it was burglars: you could argue he was lucky that it was a burglar he killed - and yes, he did kill one of them: he was in prison for manslaughter.
I've said this before in several different places: Tony Martin isn't a martyred hero, scared and defending his own property - he's a psychopath who was lucky it was a bad guy he hit, otherwise he'd have been up for murder.
Having said that, the law suit against him is pretty ridiculous.
My biggest pet peeve (are peeves easy to keep as pets, I wonder) would probably be tabloid newspapers: their hypocrisy, their intrusiveness and their constant printing of inaccuracies.
Phil
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I thought that was pretty well known. I mean, if I, an uninformed and not-that-bright American, know it, it can't be too unknown.
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I have too many of them but here are my top 3:
1. Fakes...'nuff said
2. Snobby cliques consisting of VERY FEW PEOPLE
3. And the biggest one of all: *drumroll please* People who think they know everything and convince the whole world they are a genius but in all reality THEY DON'T KNOW SH*T!!!! >:(
On the bright side, these people are obviously not going very far in life...and we shall laugh at their calamity! ;D HA!
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I have too many of them but here are my top 3:
1. Fakes...'nuff said
2. Snobby cliques consisting of VERY FEW PEOPLE
3. And the biggest one of all: *drumroll please* People who think they know everything and convince the whole world they are a genius but in all reality THEY DON'T KNOW SH*T!!!! >:(
On the bright side, these people are obviously not going very far in life...and we shall laugh at their calamity! ;D HA!
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At least I agree with #3. ::)
Howard
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3. And the biggest one of all: *drumroll please* People who think they know everything and convince the whole world they are a genius but in all reality THEY DON'T KNOW SH*T!!!! >:(
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I take offense.
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How do you tell the difference between the wannabe geniuses who annoy you with their pseudo brains, and the ones that actually are smarter than you that you're just jealous of?
I feel more confident in myself when someone tries to be smart and fails. I feel really uncomfortable when someone is obviously much smarter than me (i.e. A Shakespearean actress/musician/brilliant author/better than me in all my strengths)
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How do you tell the difference between the wannabe geniuses who annoy you with their pseudo brains, and the ones that actually are smarter than you that you're just jealous of?
I feel more confident in myself when someone tries to be smart and fails. I feel really uncomfortable when someone is obviously much smarter than me (i.e. A Shakespearean actress/musician/brilliant author/better than me in all my strengths)
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Oh trust me, this certain person I'm talking about was just trying to show off the brains he didn't have. He FLUNKED out of one of those *smart* math&science schools and came to ours thinking he knew everything there is to know.
The most ANNOYING thing was when he kept trying to argue with all of us "church-goers" about the Bible. Like he was saying why he didn't agree with the book of Revelation...using stuff that ain't even IN Revelation....it's like...."Oh, you mean you disagree with the book of JOB?" Yeah, try actually reading your Bible before trying to make an argument.
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What the press (especially the Mail) doesn't like to say: Tony Martin had had his gun license revoked - the shotgun he used was held illegally. He fired through a closed door, so he wouldn't necessarily have known it was burglars: you could argue he was lucky that it was a burglar he killed - and yes, he did kill one of them: he was in prison for manslaughter.
I've said this before in several different places: Tony Martin isn't a martyred hero, scared and defending his own property - he's a psychopath who was lucky it was a bad guy he hit, otherwise he'd have been up for murder.
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If what you are saying is correct Philbo Baggins, I will humbly correct myself. I had no idea of those facts - bloody papers. >:(
I still don't like injustice on any level.
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I feel more confident in myself when someone tries to be smart and fails. I feel really uncomfortable when someone is obviously much smarter than me (i.e. A Shakespearean actress/musician/brilliant author/better than me in all my strengths)
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There is a lot of truth in that, John.
Self-confidence is an issue with a lot of people (including myself) but I think that we can all learn from everybody. I've just learned something about Tony Martin tonight that I didn't know previously but I don't feel humiliated because I've got the wrong end of the stick.
We can learn from others and in return they can learn from us.
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I thought that was pretty well known. I mean, if I, an uninformed and not-that-bright American, know it, it can't be too unknown.
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I only know what I read, Kenny. The papers can be very biased and only release facts that support their cause (there was a poll in Britain that said about 66% of people think Martin shouldn't have been in jail). This indicates that a lot of people in Britain are as clueless as I am.
What are you trying to suggest by saying that you are an 'uninformed and not-that-bright American'? Are you really believing that or are you being rhetorical to make a point of my ignorance? If you are making a point about my ignorance then you should take into consideration that 'human beings make mistakes'.