Please note: This thread is not to debate about who is a decade kid. This thread is just for the discussion of when this particular debate reached its peak. I thought this would make an interesting discussion.

What year would you say the "90's kid debate" was at its absolute peak, like when it was at its absolute worst?

2012-2013 without question.

Yeah, I know it was huge in 2012 but I stopped paying attention after that.

Whenever the late 2000's backlash began. 90's nostalgia took off way too early than it should have so that's an exception unlike previous decades for nostalgia or the upcoming 2000's decade surge.

What's to say it won't peak again?  I think we will have a HUGE resurgence in 2017.

What's to say it won't peak again?  I think we will have a HUGE resurgence in 2017.


2017 was in the past though.

Hang on... Wait.  It's 7/26/16.

Hang on... Wait.  It's 7/26/16.


You mean 7/26/18?

You mean 7/26/18?


D'oh!  I always do that.  I keep losing track of a couple years.  Last time I was sure it was 2005.  :D

I am sincerely sorry.

D'oh!  I always do that.  I keep losing track of a couple years.  Last time I was sure it was 2005.  :D


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Like 2012-2014. It kinda never went away. The parlance just changed to "Millennials vs. Gen Z" over time.

Like 2012-2014. It kinda never went away. The parlance just changed to "Millennials vs. Gen Z" over time.

I see the "90's kid debate" and "Millennials vs. Gen Z" as two different things. The former is both generationology and decadeology, the latter is just generationology.

2010-2013, pretty much the whole early 10s period. I was already seeing 90s kids vs 2000s kids debates on Youtube in 2010 and it escalated further around 2012 when it started to become mainstream in the media.

Like 2012-2014. It kinda never went away. The parlance just changed to "Millennials vs. Gen Z" over time.

But how is that the same thing though? Millennial does not equal '90s kid. The two are not mutually exclusive. There are a handful of millennials who aren't 90s kids but are 2000s kids, myself included and people born before and after me.

But how is that the same thing though? Millennial does not equal '90s kid. The two are not mutually exclusive. There are a handful of millennials who aren't 90s kids but are 2000s kids, myself included and people born before and after me.


Not trying to start a generation cutoff debate, but the most common definitions of the Millennial generation are 1980-1994 and 1981-1996.

Therefore, it would only include "early 2000's children" or "first-half-of-the-2000's children", depending on which source you use.

Not trying to start a generation cutoff debate, but the most common definitions of the Millennial generation are 1980-1994 and 1981-1996.

Therefore, it would only include "early 2000's children" or "first-half-of-the-2000's children", depending on which source you use.

I have heard it go to 2000 from many people. Anyways, it still makes my point. A person born in 1994 is not a '90s kid obviously (they are definitely a 2000s kid as you said), yet they are still a millennial. So the two are completely unrelated.

2012-2014 for sure. 90s nostalgia was everywhere and everyone wanted to be a 90s kid. maybe it's just me, but 00s kids seem a lot more chill about who is and isn't a 00s kid. even a 2005/6 born could consider the 00s their childhood and most 00s kids probably wouldn't mind.

2012-2014 for sure. 90s nostalgia was everywhere and everyone wanted to be a 90s kid. maybe it's just me, but 00s kids seem a lot more chill about who is and isn't a 00s kid. even a 2005/6 born could consider the 00s their childhood and most 00s kids probably wouldn't mind.

I would definitely mind, they would be 2010s kids, not '00s kids. They weren't even alive for half the decade so in what way can they possibly be '00s kids?

I would definitely mind, they would be 2010s kids, not '00s kids. They weren't even alive for half the decade so in what way can they possibly be '00s kids?


They probably would be those kind of kids who prefer the 2000s than the 2010s, since they didn't like the decade they were mainly a child (or anything before adolescence).

2012-2014 for sure. 90s nostalgia was everywhere and everyone wanted to be a 90s kid. maybe it's just me, but 00s kids seem a lot more chill about who is and isn't a 00s kid. even a 2005/6 born could consider the 00s their childhood and most 00s kids probably wouldn't mind.


Yeah, I certainly haven't seen any 00s born really care about the decade kid debates. I have family members born in the 2000s who are now 16-17 within high school that don't even care about whether or not they're 00s(Y2Kids as I like to call 'em sometimes :D)  or 10s kids.

2012-2013 school year, that's when all the drama regarding Derrick Guitierrez and jflemingification was going on.

I have heard it go to 2000 from many people. Anyways, it still makes my point. A person born in 1994 is not a '90s kid obviously (they are definitely a 2000s kid as you said), yet they are still a millennial. So the two are completely unrelated.

Not trying to start a generation cutoff debate, but the most common definitions of the Millennial generation are 1980-1994 and 1981-1996.

Therefore, it would only include "early 2000's children" or "first-half-of-the-2000's children", depending on which source you use.


What he means is that if you were to using the common generational span which is 81'-96'/97', then most of the generation would either be actual 90s kids, and or kids of the later half of the 1980s or first half of the 2000s, which were mathematically and culturally close to the 90s. Overall, the Millennial era of kid culture spanned from roughly 1988 to 2005.

To answer the thread topic, 2013-2014 seems about right. I vividly remember kids in class claiming that we were 'the last of the 90s kids', merely because we were technically the last to somewhat remember it (1999 to be exact), but of course that seems laughable looking back ;D (and 80s babies mercilessly made fun of us because of that, damn they were cruel...)

To answer the thread topic, 2013-2014 seems about right. I vividly remember kids in class claiming that we were 'the last of the 90s kids', merely because we were technically the last to somewhat remember it (1999 to be exact), but of course that seems laughable looking back ;D (and 80s babies mercilessly made fun of us because of that, damn they were cruel...)


The whole thing was already troubling and toxic by 2012.

The whole thing was already troubling and toxic by 2012.


True. But I think it peaked around 2014ish. It sharply declined (thankfully) in 2015. Nowadays I see more and more people becoming nostalgic of the 'early 2000s'. However, like Millennium mentioned in a thread she created, many 80s babies are now claiming that we 90s babies have 'no right to claim the 2000s' as our decade. Its like the goal post keeps moving. Mark my words, 80s babies will be trying to claim the 2010s decades as the time of their YA years and that '90s babies truly DID NOT experience the 2010s in ALL ITS GLORY' ;D.

True. But I think it peaked around 2014ish. It sharply declined (thankfully) in 2015. Nowadays I see more and more people becoming nostalgic of the 'early 2000s'. However, like Millennium mentioned in a thread she created, many 80s babies are now claiming that we 90s babies have 'no right to claim the 2000s' as our decade. Its like the goal post keeps moving. Mark my words, 80s babies will be trying to claim the 2010s decades as the time of their YA years and that '90s babies truly DID NOT experience the 2010s in ALL ITS GLORY' ;D.


The whole SJW vs. Alt-right thing, which is absolutely more dangerous and toxic, is probably was the reason why it declined....

The whole SJW vs. Alt-right thing, which is absolutely more dangerous and toxic, is probably was the reason why it declined....


That and the rise in Millennial bashing & 'Generationology' In which I unfortunately contributed in :-X

That and the rise in Millennial bashing & 'Generationology' In which I unfortunately contributed in :-X


You were the worst offender of contributing to generationology on Personality Cafe 2-3 years ago!  ;D
Hell, you even started coming up with your own fairy-tale definitions for generations, like "Hunger Games Generation" and perhaps a few others.  ;D
But it's fine, I'm not innocent either in this regard.

You were the worst offender of contributing to generationology on Personality Cafe 2-3 years ago!  ;D
Hell, you even started coming up with your own fairy-tale definitions for generations, like "Hunger Games Generation" and perhaps a few others.  ;D
But it's fine, I'm not innocent either in this regard.


LOL, We all Were Knees Deep into that sh!t ;D. We all calmed down thankfully. I'll bite hear and there, but overall I try to just avoid those discussions. Same cam be said with the 'KiDecadology' debates ;D.

True. But I think it peaked around 2014ish. It sharply declined (thankfully) in 2015. Nowadays I see more and more people becoming nostalgic of the 'early 2000s'. However, like Millennium mentioned in a thread she created, many 80s babies are now claiming that we 90s babies have 'no right to claim the 2000s' as our decade. Its like the goal post keeps moving. Mark my words, 80s babies will be trying to claim the 2010s decades as the time of their YA years and that '90s babies truly DID NOT experience the 2010s in ALL ITS GLORY' ;D.

lmfao that wouldn't surprised me at all. I could see them trying to claim it because of people like Kendrick Lamar & Drake  ;D

You were the worst offender of contributing to generationology on Personality Cafe 2-3 years ago!  ;D
Hell, you even started coming up with your own fairy-tale definitions for generations, like "Hunger Games Generation" and perhaps a few others.  ;D
But it's fine, I'm not innocent either in this regard.


I don't think that any of us were innocent in that regard.

I would say the early 2010s in general was when the 90s kid craze exploded everywhere.

More like 2009-2012, if you look at the 90s/00s tribute videos between then, alot of people would have serious debates about who is a 90s kid or not.

True. But I think it peaked around 2014ish. It sharply declined (thankfully) in 2015. Nowadays I see more and more people becoming nostalgic of the 'early 2000s'. However, like Millennium mentioned in a thread she created, many 80s babies are now claiming that we 90s babies have 'no right to claim the 2000s' as our decade. Its like the goal post keeps moving. Mark my words, 80s babies will be trying to claim the 2010s decades as the time of their YA years and that '90s babies truly DID NOT experience the 2010s in ALL ITS GLORY' ;D .

Nah in the future we 2000s babies will claim the 2010s as our decade, as of right now most of us aren't claiming it since most of us are just wanna be kids of the previous decade.

More like 2009-2012, if you look at the 90s/00s tribute videos between then, alot of people would have serious debates about who is a 90s kid or not.


It peaked in 2012-2013. CapoBayPirate97, Black Panther, and I were all there when it happened.

It peaked in 2012-2013. CapoBayPirate97, Black Panther, and I were all there when it happened.

I think 2009-2012 was its peak seeing from the videos and comments i saw.

It peaked in 2012-2013. CapoBayPirate97, Black Panther, and I were all there when it happened.

Was this a one time event?

They probably would be those kind of kids who prefer the 2000s than the 2010s, since they didn't like the decade they were mainly a child (or anything before adolescence).

Lol, i was born in 2004 and i like the 2010s because i simply spent my childhood in it and i'm glad i spent my childhood in the 2010s also, oh also we call them the "le wrong generation" people.

Was this a one time event?


I apologize for the confusion, but no. CapoBayPirate97, Black Panther, and I were fighting against 90's kid trolls on the internet, most notably an individual with the pseudonym "Derrick Gutierrez".

I apologize for the confusion, but no. CapoBayPirate97, Black Panther, and I were fighting against 90's kid trolls on the internet, most notably an individual with the pseudonym "Derrick Gutierrez".

Wow, do you know Derricks youtube channel?

Wow, do you know Derricks youtube channel?


He went by "DarknessDudeNotCrazy", "JohnnyTimeHaveFun" (or something like that), and several other names throughout 2012 and 2013.

You claim the decade after the one you were born in....even if you were born in 1980, 1990 or 2000

80s baby = 90s kid
90s baby = 00s kid
00s baby = 10s kid

This was never a debate when I was growing up. I was born in November 1985 and can't remember a minute of the 80s....my memories go back to about spring 1990 and don't get Vivid until around summer 1991....I'm clearly a 90s kid, not 80s.

You claim the decade after the one you were born in....even if you were born in 1980, 1990 or 2000

80s baby = 90s kid
90s baby = 00s kid
00s baby = 10s kid

This was never a debate when I was growing up. I was born in November 1985 and can't remember a minute of the 80s....my memories go back to about spring 1990 and don't get Vivid until around summer 1991....I'm clearly a 90s kid, not 80s.

Not the point of this thread. Take this discussion somewhere else.

You claim the decade after the one you were born in....even if you were born in 1980, 1990 or 2000

80s baby = 90s kid
90s baby = 00s kid
00s baby = 10s kid

This was never a debate when I was growing up. I was born in November 1985 and can't remember a minute of the 80s....my memories go back to about spring 1990 and don't get Vivid until around summer 1991....I'm clearly a 90s kid, not 80s.


Age 8 is the peak of being a kid "IMO" and when you add 10 to that you get your HS graduation year at age 18, therefore, that makes 1982-1991 or the HS classes of 2000-2009 the kids who had more of their childhood in the 90's than the 80's or 00's. Same goes for 1992-2001 or classes of 2010-2019 who spent more childhood in the 00's than 90's or 10's. As for your arbitrary definition which is just as arbitrary as mine, it depends on your definition of a "kid". If being a child under a parents home in middle school and high school still counts as a "kid", then you might have a point, but if we're only talking about the biological definition of a kid, like a kid in elementary school, then you're wrong.  Oh, and your group of people (yes mid 80's born's) started the 90's kid debate, whether you want to admit it or not.

Age 8 is the peak of being a kid "IMO" and when you add 10 to that you get your HS graduation year at age 18, therefore, that makes 1982-1991 or the HS classes of 2000-2009 the kids who had more of their childhood in the 90's than the 80's or 00's. Same goes for 1992-2001 or classes of 2010-2019 who spent more childhood in the 00's than 90's or 10's. As for your arbitrary definition which is just as arbitrary as mine, it depends on your definition of a "kid". If being a child under a parents home in middle school and high school still counts as a "kid", then you might have a point, but if we're only talking about the biological definition of a kid, like a kid in elementary school, then you're wrong.  Oh, and your group of people (yes mid 80's born's) started the 90's kid debate, whether you want to admit it or not.

Take this debate somewhere else. That's obviously not the point of my thread.

Take this debate somewhere else. That's obviously not the point of my thread.


Responding to him, not you. I respond to anyone I would like to unless the mods tell me not to do so, otherwise you don't control what I bring to the table this site.  8)

Responding to him, not you. I respond to anyone I would like to unless the mods tell me not to do so, otherwise you don't control what I bring to the table this site.  8)

Well, if you're going to ignore the fact that this thread was supposed to be about when the debate reached its peak, not who is a 90's or 2000's kid, at least post this somewhere else where it's actually talked about.

Well, if you're going to ignore the fact that this thread was supposed to be about when the debate reached its peak, not who is a 90's or 2000's kid, at least post this somewhere else where it's actually talked about.


BTW, if you (or others) want to see my opinion on this topic, click on these posts here. I actually meant to post this on this thread a week ago but.... here you go

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=58434.msg3738553#msg3738553

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=58434.msg3739039#msg3739039

When the late 2000's recession and the late 2000's (Bush) backlash started happening, that's when people really began to miss the 90's and started hating on the 2000's a lot, this led to the whole 90's nostalgia pages followed by 90's kids debates and who's a "90's kid" and who's not, and then you have the elitists and ageists making fun of people who loved the 2000's and making people ashamed of reminiscing the 2000's who loved the decade. The 90's arguments and debates started in the late 2000's, but it peaked in the early 2010's in general. Since a lot of late 90's cultural fads and icons lasted through the early 2000's, you had 90's kid elitists who would throw the early 2000's in with the 90's and only claim the 2000's decade to be "2004-2009" and they claimed that "everything after 2003 sucks" blah blah blah. So all of this caused a lot of confusion all over the internet and all of these stupid and idiotic buzzfeed pages and YouTube videos that contains so much misinformed/false information about the 90's and 2000's. It's like people will only focus on what impacted the 90's/early 2000's and 2010's, and they'll forget the underrated pop cultural moments the 2000's offered, and yes, the 2000's did have some cultural identity issues compared to previous decades (this is for another thread), but that didn't mean the decade was totally bad.

Responding to him, not you. I respond to anyone I would like to unless the mods tell me not to do so, otherwise you don't control what I bring to the table this site.  8)

Ok, that was a bit ignorant. All the OP wants is to focus on the point of her thread & stay on topic. Just like you normally would on any other online thread. Plain & simple! :)

Ok, that was a bit ignorant. All the OP wants is to focus on the point of her thread & stay on topic. Just like you normally would on any other online thread. Plain & simple! :)

EXACTLY! I didn't smite him for responding to someone, I did it because I said right before that it wasn't the point of my thread but he still continued talking about it anyway. Yes, I don't control what he can say or do, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore the point of the thread completely. It's just rude.

I'm probably going to lock this thread now to avoid more drama.