1999 was very 90's in some ways. Buffy, Dawson's Creek, and Sabrina: The Teenage Witch, were still hot shows. Reality TV had not boomed yet, not until Survivor, in 2000.

You could still hear some rock music on the radio, shockingly. Album sales were still huge. Mariah Carey was  still pre-Glitter/breakdown.

It was obvious that DVD's were starting to boom, though. Everyone was talking about them. DVD commercials were EVERYWHERE. Movies had that '90's feel' all the way until 2003/2004.


Buffy, Dawson's Creek, and Sabrina: The Teenage Witch are '90s/'00s shows like most programs that began in the '90s.

Yes, 1999 was exactly like 2000. It's a fact. You know how I know? Because the Powerpuff Girls was on Cartoon Network both years. That show had such a core Y2K era vibe.


I wouldn't say exactly like 2000 but it was close.  I would say music had already mostly moved into the 2000s but not all aspect of culture did.  TV and fashion were still more in the 90s at that point.  Also, he second half of 2000 had a slightly different vibe than the first half.  The first half was the part that was identical to 1999.  I stopped wearing JNCOs and switched to cargo pants in very early 2000.  I would say the first big thing that set 2000 apart from 1999 was the Marhsall Mathers LP release by Eminem.  That album basically defined 2000.  It's all part of the greater Y2K-era though, which lasted roughly from late 1998 through fall 2001.

I wouldn't say exactly like 2000 but it was close.  I would say music had already mostly moved into the 2000s but not all aspect of culture did.  TV and fashion were still more in the 90s at that point.  Also, he second half of 2000 had a slightly different vibe than the first half.  The first half was the part that was identical to 1999.  I stopped wearing JNCOs and switched to cargo pants in very early 2000.  I would say the first big thing that set 2000 apart from 1999 was the Marhsall Mathers LP release by Eminem.  That album basically defined 2000.  It's all part of the greater Y2K-era though, which lasted roughly from late 1998 through fall 2001.


#Infinity was being sarcastic. I don't think anyone could genuinely believe that the Powerpuff Girls were the sole factor in determining how similar 1999 and 2000 were, which ever way you look at it.

But not the first few months. I have a pic of me from May 1999 which still feels classic '90s, like 1996 or 1997.

But not the first few months. I have a pic of me from May 1999 which still feels classic '90s, like 1996 or 1997.


Funny you say that, because I didn't hate music, in 1999, until May/June of that year. I hated 'Sometimes' by Britney Spears, and 'If you had my love' by Jennifer Lopez.

It was similar to 1999.

Like we've discussed time and time again, 1999 had both '90s and 2000s influences. I'm sick of these decadeology threads.


I know Shark, I agree it's become a bit too repetitive. ::)

But not the first few months. I have a pic of me from May 1999 which still feels classic '90s, like 1996 or 1997.

1999 was very similar to 1996-1997. In fact, 1999 was more similar to those years than 2001 or 2002.

It was similar to 1999.

Exactly!

https://i.imgur.com/CoWZ05t.gif

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I agree.

We all were panicking about Y2K. We thought the clocks wouldn't register 2000 and everything'd blow up! I remember seeing a Simpsons with my neighbor Eliza about it, I believe it was a Treehouse of Horror? Guess what. When New Year 2000 finally arrived, we all felt stupid. Like we really believed there'd be an Earth-shattering ka-boom because our appliances weren't programmed to go past 1999? They were designed to keep rolling with the times, never stopping.
However, we did get a hilarious SpongeBob episode. "Future! FUTURE!"

1999 was the first year I clearly remember pop culturally. It was the first year my memories were like crystal. I remember constantly hearing Believe by Cher on the radio and "You're a Superstar" by Love Inc on the radio too. I remember Britney Spears and boy bands were huge and cassette tapes were still around (I had a tape recorder I liked playing with) and of course Windows 98. Man does it feel ancient now it's crazy. Anyway I am a 2000s kid so I always place 1999 with the 2000s as I consider it part of my childhood and remember it clearly. You can't deny the whole Y2K era which leaned more towards 2000s culture started in 1998/1999. However most normies I talk to consider 1999 still very '90s.  :P

1999 was very similar to 1996-1997. In fact, 1999 was more similar to those years than 2001 or 2002.

No it wasn't lol. 1999 was nothing like 1996 or 1997 for that matter.

We all were panicking about Y2K. We thought the clocks wouldn't register 2000 and everything'd blow up! I remember seeing a Simpsons with my neighbor Eliza about it, I believe it was a Treehouse of Horror? Guess what. When New Year 2000 finally arrived, we all felt stupid. Like we really believed there'd be an Earth-shattering ka-boom because our appliances weren't programmed to go past 1999? They were designed to keep rolling with the times, never stopping.
However, we did get a hilarious SpongeBob episode. "Future! FUTURE!"


I'll reference this earlier thread:

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=55774.msg3595985#msg3595985

One weird thing is that it gave an opportunity to wear those ridiculous glasses.

http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/New-Years-Glasses-2000.jpg

One weird thing is that it gave an opportunity to wear those ridiculous glasses.

http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/New-Years-Glasses-2000.jpg


My cousin has a lamp where the lamp base is "2000" in block letters (if that makes sense). It's a nice souvenir from that era! :D

I remember wearing those!

If 2018 turns out to be more than a stock market correction, then the 1990's will look like the 1920's and 1950's in the end.

If 2018 turns out to be more than a stock market correction, then the 1990's will look like the 1920's and 1950's in the end.

What do you mean by that?  ???

1999 was the first year I clearly remember pop culturally. It was the first year my memories were like crystal. I remember constantly hearing Believe by Cher on the radio and "You're a Superstar" by Love Inc on the radio too. I remember Britney Spears and boy bands were huge and cassette tapes were still around (I had a tape recorder I liked playing with) and of course Windows 98. Man does it feel ancient now it's crazy. Anyway I am a 2000s kid so I always place 1999 with the 2000s as I consider it part of my childhood and remember it clearly. You can't deny the whole Y2K era which leaned more towards 2000s culture started in 1998/1999. However most normies I talk to consider 1999 still very '90s.  :P


In that case you would of loved 1996 then! the mid-late 90's had awesome learning resources for preschoolers  Like I had this cassette with microphone attached that would allow you to record your singing or voice recordings just push a tap in! and you could have you own recorded voice recordings on cassette oh it was the bomb!, I remember Alanis Morissette singing ironic on top of the pops (spring 1996 I believe) those were definitely my earliest memories of popular culture,                                                             

It was a fun year. Too bad I didn't enjoy it to its fullest back then.  :P

I still laugh at people who think that 1999 was more '00s than '90s. I used to think that way but I've come to my senses :-X 8).

I still laugh at people who think that 1999 was more '00s than '90s. I used to think that way but I've come to my senses :-X 8).

Are you serious?  ??? Yes 1999 was more like the 00s... That's not even a question. You shouldn't be talking considering you weren't even 1 years old that year. The real '90s ended in 1998. 1999 is definitely a lot more '00s than '90s, no question about it. But numerically it is a '90s year of course, culturally no.

Are you serious?  ??? Yes 1999 was more like the 00s... That's not even a question. You shouldn't be talking considering you weren't even 1 years old that year. The real '90s ended in 1998. 1999 is definitely a lot more '00s than '90s, no question about it. But numerically it is a '90s year of course, culturally no.


Tbh, it doesn't really matter if it was more 90s or 00s. It's not a competition and obviously it had aspects of both cultures.

Tbh, it doesn't really matter if it was more 90s or 00s. It's not a competition and obviously it had aspects of both cultures.

I can agree with that. Although I think 1999 had zero aspects of the true '90s as I see that more early and mid '90s.

Tbh, it doesn't really matter if it was more 90s or 00s. It's not a competition and obviously it had aspects of both cultures.

It doesn't matter at all but like I said I laugh at anyone who thinks that 1999 was more '00s than '90s (because this is my opinion). Notice how he says "you weren't even 1 years old that year". He always like to bring up my age and then he claims to not be ageist ::).

Anyways, Slim95 can yap all he wants, I have learned to ignore him.

I saw the 2000s culture was already in place by 1999, but honestly it's really how you see it. When it comes to analyzing an era it's not about being right or wrong. It's about whether you can at least back up what you say. Just give reason on why you think that way since pop cultural discussion is HIGHLY subjective anyways. I say the 2000 started in 1999 since a lot of trends that took place in the early 2000s never really started in the early 2000s and instead just brought over whatever was introduced at the end of '98 or '99.

This is what I think anyways. Someone else can counter my post with their reasons and they wouldn't be any less right or wrong than me.Only thing I'd consisder dead wrong is if you were to say that 1999 was like 1939 or something (well big band swing/jazz did make a comeback between '98-'01 though).

I look at it like 99' was proto 2000s....yet 90s. I don't really count 99 as the 2000s because 2000s culture wouldn't be the 00s without 9/11 and 99 came before 9/11. At least 2000 had Bush running for president and winning...somehow.

I found this post while searching through the archives. I think it's interesting.

Subject: So long, 90s!
Written By: CosmicGirl2000 on 12/30/1999 at 8:23 p.m.

Well, tommorrow is the very last day of the decade! Can you believe all that has happened within the last ten years? I mean look at 1990 compared to 1999. Back then, girls still had big hair, people wore extrememly bright neon colors, only business execs owned cell phones and pagers, computers were still primitive, and evrything seemed frivilous and neon. Now, everything is WAY more high tech, sleek, and sensible. Just take a look around next time you are out, it boggles the mind! Better yet stll, compare 1900 to 2000! Now THAT is pretty darn amazing!!!
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The last part of the paragraph makes me laugh. Now tech from 1999 is amazingly dated.

I found this post while searching through the archives. I think it's interesting.

Subject: So long, 90s!
Written By: CosmicGirl2000 on 12/30/1999 at 8:23 p.m.

Well, tommorrow is the very last day of the decade! Can you believe all that has happened within the last ten years? I mean look at 1990 compared to 1999. Back then, girls still had big hair, people wore extrememly bright neon colors, only business execs owned cell phones and pagers, computers were still primitive, and evrything seemed frivilous and neon. Now, everything is WAY more high tech, sleek, and sensible. Just take a look around next time you are out, it boggles the mind! Better yet stll, compare 1900 to 2000! Now THAT is pretty darn amazing!!!
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The last part of the paragraph makes me laugh. Now tech from 1999 is amazingly dated.

High tech, sleek, and sensible it was. I was one back in 1990. In the mid 1990s, people wore plaid. I treasure 1994 with a passion. 2000 onwards made me feel nihilistic. I just don't know why.

1999 and 2000 were milennial/Y2K years, neither strictly late 90's or early 00's. I can tell you as a person who remembers pre-K and Kindergarten, the era from 1999 to Summer 2001 felt the same. Fall 2001/Spring 2002 to Summer 2003 was the true early 2000's, or in other words, the transition into core 2000's culture which was in full effect by Fall 2003. That's why 2002 was a very weird year. It was a post-9/11 year, the millennial era was over, the late 90's was truly dead (although some influences were still leftover), but at the same time 2002 wasn't core 2000's at all yet. That year was the peak of early 00's.

1999 was part of an era that I'd call the "Y2K 90's," which sums up the feel and vibe from 1998-2001. Some circa "2002" culture began creeping in, particularly in fashion and technology (DVD's & more people signed up for AOL). Skateboards made a comeback and scooters were more popular than roller blades (a very 90's thing).

The music scene wasn't exactly early 00's though. On one hand, it was loaded with bubblegum pop, starting in 1997 with Hanson and the Spice Girls and continuing on with 'N Sync, the Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Savage Garden, etc. All of that faded out in 2001 and is more associated with the late 90's than early 00's. The year 2000 was literally the final year of that trend. Rap & hip hop, OTOH, were more like 2002 than 1995. But at the same time, crunk rap of 2003-on wasn't yet popular. It was a post-grunge/post gangsta rap era, but before pop punk and crunk rap took over. Yes, there was Blink 182, but bands like them wouldn't spread like cancer until '03/'04. In many ways, 1999 was a lot less edgy and much more commercialized than the core 90's.

The brutal, postmodern "life is about nothing" theme from Seinfeld ended in early '98 and cheesy Friends was in its prime. In fact, I couldn't imagine Alanis Morisette's "Ironic" being released in 1999.  People were more fashion & image conscious than before, so you saw a lot less of the grungy look. But still, it wasn't like the emo look of '04-'05.

I say early 1999 stil had a 90s vibe simlar to 97 and 98 with the ps1 and the N64 still being seen as current gen,  wwf Raw and Heat were the two main shows in wwe until smackdown came out in August, Pokemon was out but most people played it on the og gameboy rather than the color, TLC was still active with No Scrubs. By  late 99 that's when it was Y2k at full force, with the release of the Dreamcast, Smackdown on UPN, The Rock taking over Stone Cold as the face of the wwe, Destiny Child replaced TLC as the dominant rnb girl group, More kids started getting Gameboy Colors and the scare around 2000 was at full force.

I say early 1999 stil had a 90s vibe simlar to 97 and 98 with the ps1 and the N64 still being seen as current gen,  wwf Raw and Heat were the two main shows in wwe until smackdown came out in August, Pokemon was out but most people played it on the og gameboy rather than the color, TLC was still active with No Scrubs. By  late 99 that's when it was Y2k at full force, with the release of the Dreamcast, Smackdown on UPN, The Rock taking over Stone Cold as the face of the wwe, Destiny Child replaced TLC as the dominant rnb girl group, More kids started getting Gameboy Colors and the scare around 2000 was at full force.


Didn't WCW change its logo in '99?

1999 was part of an era that I'd call the "Y2K 90's," which sums up the feel and vibe from 1998-2001. Some circa "2002" culture began creeping in, particularly in fashion and technology (DVD's & more people signed up for AOL). Skateboards made a comeback and scooters were more popular than roller blades (a very 90's thing).

The music scene wasn't exactly early 00's though. On one hand, it was loaded with bubblegum pop, starting in 1997 with Hanson and the Spice Girls and continuing on with 'N Sync, the Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Savage Garden, etc. All of that faded out in 2001 and is more associated with the late 90's than early 00's. The year 2000 was literally the final year of that trend. Rap & hip hop, OTOH, were more like 2002 than 1995. But at the same time, crunk rap of 2003-on wasn't yet popular. It was a post-grunge/post gangsta rap era, but before pop punk and crunk rap took over. Yes, there was Blink 182, but bands like them wouldn't spread like cancer until '03/'04. In many ways, 1999 was a lot less edgy and much more commercialized than the core 90's.

The brutal, postmodern "life is about nothing" theme from Seinfeld ended in early '98 and cheesy Friends was in its prime. In fact, I couldn't imagine Alanis Morisette's "Ironic" being released in 1999.  People were more fashion & image conscious than before, so you saw a lot less of the grungy look. But still, it wasn't like the emo look of '04-'05.


This, to an extent.
But thinking back 1999 seemed very fake...All the music to me seemed fake. I was 9 years in 1999. I just remember things feeling a lot more "modern"...1998 in my life was a sort of transitional year - The last vestiges of the core 90s died in 1998. The happy go lucky carefree feel of the mid 90s and its Hippie vibe slowly disappeared staring around 1996 and by 1999 it was gone. There was still a careefree vibe to the air, but also a hopeful vibe as well. I remember there being a lot of cynicism, though, as well as some Y2K dread and a sort of existential "Where do we go from there?" as the realization became clear that the 90s were ending and a new era was beginning. I look at 1993-1997, parts of 1998 as being a sort of "Yay the 80s is over, woohoo, party" sort of era, with our hip sax playing President, the Macarena, people losing themselves in the "Multimedia Revolution." By 1999 the President was associated more with semen stained dresses than jazz, kids were shooting up schools, Osama Bin Laden was not yet the architect of 9/11 but his name was known to the general public. I think there was an underlying cynicism as the 90s ended. The feel good mid 90s were gone and a sort of hopeful jetlag or hopeful hangover followed. We also began to reject the 90s even as early as '99. The Hippie inspired trends were dead. Grunge was a laughing stock and deader than Disco in the late 90s and considered lame. Even stuff like Doom was a little old hat. By the middle of 2000, Bush would be nominated for the GOP revolution and even as narrow as his victory was, it was a clear rejection of Clinton and the 1990s. The party was ending in 1999. A new era was beginning.

I found this post while searching through the archives. I think it's interesting.

Subject: So long, 90s!
Written By: CosmicGirl2000 on 12/30/1999 at 8:23 p.m.

Well, tommorrow is the very last day of the decade! Can you believe all that has happened within the last ten years? I mean look at 1990 compared to 1999. Back then, girls still had big hair, people wore extrememly bright neon colors, only business execs owned cell phones and pagers, computers were still primitive, and evrything seemed frivilous and neon. Now, everything is WAY more high tech, sleek, and sensible. Just take a look around next time you are out, it boggles the mind! Better yet stll, compare 1900 to 2000! Now THAT is pretty darn amazing!!!
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The last part of the paragraph makes me laugh. Now tech from 1999 is amazingly dated.

Thats awesome to see someones view on 1990 in 1999.

I've always thought of 1999-2001/02 as it's own era that doesn't really fit in with either decade, like 2009-2011 ???.

This, to an extent.
But thinking back 1999 seemed very fake...All the music to me seemed fake. I was 9 years in 1999. I just remember things feeling a lot more "modern"...1998 in my life was a sort of transitional year - The last vestiges of the core 90s died in 1998. The happy go lucky carefree feel of the mid 90s and its Hippie vibe slowly disappeared staring around 1996 and by 1999 it was gone. There was still a careefree vibe to the air, but also a hopeful vibe as well. I remember there being a lot of cynicism, though, as well as some Y2K dread and a sort of existential "Where do we go from there?" as the realization became clear that the 90s were ending and a new era was beginning. I look at 1993-1997, parts of 1998 as being a sort of "Yay the 80s is over, woohoo, party" sort of era, with our hip sax playing President, the Macarena, people losing themselves in the "Multimedia Revolution." By 1999 the President was associated more with semen stained dresses than jazz, kids were shooting up schools, Osama Bin Laden was not yet the architect of 9/11 but his name was known to the general public. I think there was an underlying cynicism as the 90s ended. The feel good mid 90s were gone and a sort of hopeful jetlag or hopeful hangover followed. We also began to reject the 90s even as early as '99. The Hippie inspired trends were dead. Grunge was a laughing stock and deader than Disco in the late 90s and considered lame. Even stuff like Doom was a little old hat. By the middle of 2000, Bush would be nominated for the GOP revolution and even as narrow as his victory was, it was a clear rejection of Clinton and the 1990s. The party was ending in 1999. A new era was beginning.


I was also 9 that year and agree. I'm not sure that there was a complete rejection of Bill Clinton in 2000 though. Technically, Al Gore won the popular vote. It wasn't like '08 where people were dying for the end of Bush W and that was reflected in both the popular vote and electoral college. In '88, it seemed like most wanted to carry on the "Reagan 80's" into the early 90's when they elected Bush Sr. Beyond politics, '99 wasn't a strong 90's year in the way that the 70's were in '79 and the 80's in '89.

I was also 9 that year and agree. I'm not sure that there was a complete rejection of Bill Clinton in 2000 though. Technically, Al Gore won the popular vote. It wasn't like '08 where people were dying for the end of Bush W and that was reflected in both the popular vote and electoral college. In '88, it seemed like most wanted to carry on the "Reagan 80's" into the early 90's when they elected Bush Sr. Beyond politics, '99 wasn't a strong 90's year in the way that the 70's were in '79 and the 80's in '89.


No, but I also believe if not for Lewinsky, Gore would've won. Bush ran on a campaign of returning 'decency' to the White House. He never mentioned Clinton by name but it was clear what he meant. I know my parents went from being Clinton voters in 1996 to being Bush voters in 2000. I remember my parents referring to Gore as a "robot." My mother and sister didn't speak for a good few months over my mother's ardent support for Bush in 2000. Then, Iraq changed all that and my parents voted for Kerry in 2004. But that's later.

I just think that, by 99 people were tired of the 90s. Grunge, Neon, people I think looked back and said "thank God this era is leaving us." 99 was a 90s year and yet not. It is very strange, really. 1999 was a very different time from say, 1994....Everything changed very rapidly. If you dressed like a Grunge kid in 1999 you'd have been very behind the times. People were playing Mario Kart more than Doom in 1999. Baldur's Gate brought RPGs back into gaming, before that it was a genre for nerds...Adventure games (like Myst or Monkey Island) hit a peak in 95 and then by 99 were dead.

Look at the first Season of Family Guy. That season ran during the first half of 1999. Look how 90s it is in attitudes and feel, and yet how different it is. That was the weird contrast of 1999 for me.

I also can't see a show like Pete and Pete still running in '99.

Reruns.

Pete and Pete ended on December 28, 1996.

Reruns.

Pete and Pete ended on December 28, 1996.


What I meant was that no part of that show would have been able to fit in 1999.

And keep in mind that all of the 1996 episodes were filmed in 1995.

What I meant was that no part of that show would have been able to fit in 1999.

And keep in mind that all of the 1996 episodes were filmed in 1995.

What do you mean by "no part of that show would have been able to fit in 1999"?

What do you mean by "no part of that show would have been able to fit in 1999"?


What I meant was that the show was outdated by then.

I was also kind of surprised when people told me that the Kingworld Spotlights logo didn't look that dated by '99.

What I meant was that the show was outdated by then.

OK.

What made it outdated specifically?


I was also kind of surprised when people told me that the Kingworld Spotlights logo didn't look that dated by '99.

1999 wasn't 2005 dude.

I was also kind of surprised when people told me that the Kingworld Spotlights logo didn't look that dated by '99.


IDK, maybe on this forum where people think stuff from 2009 looks "dated" then it's probably dated. But to normies things go a lot slower. I watched a lot of 90s shows and sitcoms in the mid-2000s and while I have no recollection of the early-mid 90s, I still had no idea those shows were old. I thought they were contemporary.

OK.

What made it outdated specifically?
1999 wasn't 2005 dude.


Mostly the fashion.

Mostly the fashion.

Eh, not really. Fashion only slightly changed from the mid-late '90s.

Most people dressed the same in 1999 as they did in 1995/1996.

That glossy and shiny fashion was mostly a celebrity fashion trend.

No, but I also believe if not for Lewinsky, Gore would've won. Bush ran on a campaign of returning 'decency' to the White House. He never mentioned Clinton by name but it was clear what he meant. I know my parents went from being Clinton voters in 1996 to being Bush voters in 2000. I remember my parents referring to Gore as a "robot." My mother and sister didn't speak for a good few months over my mother's ardent support for Bush in 2000. Then, Iraq changed all that and my parents voted for Kerry in 2004. But that's later.

I just think that, by 99 people were tired of the 90s. Grunge, Neon, people I think looked back and said "thank God this era is leaving us." 99 was a 90s year and yet not. It is very strange, really. 1999 was a very different time from say, 1994....Everything changed very rapidly. If you dressed like a Grunge kid in 1999 you'd have been very behind the times. People were playing Mario Kart more than Doom in 1999. Baldur's Gate brought RPGs back into gaming, before that it was a genre for nerds...Adventure games (like Myst or Monkey Island) hit a peak in 95 and then by 99 were dead.

Look at the first Season of Family Guy. That season ran during the first half of 1999. Look how 90s it is in attitudes and feel, and yet how different it is. That was the weird contrast of 1999 for me.


It's funny looking back at the Lewinsky scandal when you now have Stormy Daniels and allegations of Russian prostitutes pissing on Trump. Man the times have changed  ;D.

I do agree that 1999, as well as 1998 and 2000 had an odd contrast to them. The movie Office Space came out in '99, which is about as quintessentially 90's as it could possibly get. Even their clothes screamed 1995. I didn't see it until years later, but I recall reading that it didn't do too well when it was released. Our "attitude" was changing by '99 and "irony" and "postmodernist" critiques were becoming cliche. What's particularly ironic about it is that if it were released in '94, it probably wouldn't have captured the draining office atmosphere of the late 90's tech boom. In the movie, they were getting ready for the switch to 2000. 1994 was the height of that 90's "life is about nothing" (Seinfeld) apathetic attitude. 

It's funny looking back at the Lewinsky scandal when you now have Stormy Daniels and allegations of Russian prostitutes pissing on Trump. Man the times have changed  ;D.

I do agree that 1999, as well as 1998 and 2000 had an odd contrast to them. The movie Office Space came out in '99, which is about as quintessentially 90's as it could possibly get. Even their clothes screamed 1995. I didn't see it until years later, but I recall reading that it didn't do too well when it was released. Our "attitude" was changing by '99 and "irony" and "postmodernist" critiques were becoming cliche. What's particularly ironic about it is that if it were released in '94, it probably wouldn't have captured the draining office atmosphere of the late 90's tech boom. In the movie, they were getting ready for the switch to 2000. 1994 was the height of that 90's "life is about nothing" (Seinfeld) apathetic attitude.


Office Space came out in February of that year, right?

It's funny looking back at the Lewinsky scandal when you now have Stormy Daniels and allegations of Russian prostitutes pissing on Trump. Man the times have changed  ;D.

I do agree that 1999, as well as 1998 and 2000 had an odd contrast to them. The movie Office Space came out in '99, which is about as quintessentially 90's as it could possibly get. Even their clothes screamed 1995. I didn't see it until years later, but I recall reading that it didn't do too well when it was released. Our "attitude" was changing by '99 and "irony" and "postmodernist" critiques were becoming cliche. What's particularly ironic about it is that if it were released in '94, it probably wouldn't have captured the draining office atmosphere of the late 90's tech boom. In the movie, they were getting ready for the switch to 2000. 1994 was the height of that 90's "life is about nothing" (Seinfeld) apathetic attitude.


I have a feeling that all of the "ironic" stuff in this decade could all be part of 90's nostalgia.

Do you think that Seinfeld would have survived the early 00's or the rest of the late 90's?

I have a feeling that all of the "ironic" stuff in this decade could all be part of 90's nostalgia.

Do you think that Seinfeld would have survived the early 00's or the rest of the late 90's?


This decade's irony, mostly since 2015 on-wards is like the real life version of the National Enquirer and the Onion. It's not 90's per se, but it's own uniqueness of "up is down." Look no further than the 2016 election.

I think Seinfeld was getting a bit "unrealistic" during the final seasons. It would've ended on a lower note if it dragged on into 2002, IMO. But Kramer's Millennium party would've been great  ;D.  The classic years were definitely 1992-95. 1989-91 was a bit too early to catch on, although there's some classics in there like when they waited for a table at a Chinese restaurant.

This decade's irony, mostly since 2015 on-wards is like the real life version of the National Enquirer and the Onion. It's not 90's per se, but it's own uniqueness of "up is down." Look no further than the 2016 election.

I think Seinfeld was getting a bit "unrealistic" during the final seasons. It would've ended on a lower note if it dragged on into 2002, IMO. But Kramer's Millennium party would've been great  ;D.  The classic years were definitely 1992-95. 1989-91 was a bit too early to catch on, although there's some classics in there like when they waited for a table at a Chinese restaurant.


So it was sort of "jumping the shark" already by the later seasons?

So it was sort of "jumping the shark" already by the later seasons?


It's the typical progression for a lot of sitcoms. I personally liked all of the seasons, but I could tell towards the end that it was getting past its peak. If it kept going, it would've ended with poorer ratings. My dad taped the final episode and said that it ended at the right time.

it was similar yes, but not like 2009 where it was basically part of the next decade.

1999 was basically the same atmosphere of 2000 to an extend. They coexisted. Songs released in 1999 feel 2000.

Sisqo - Thong Song
Destiny's Child - Say My Name
Ludacris - What's Your Fantasy

1999 was basically the same atmosphere of 2000 to an extend. They coexisted. Songs released in 1999 feel 2000.

Sisqo - Thong Song
Destiny's Child - Say My Name
Ludacris - What's Your Fantasy


Was that a novelty song basically?

Was that a novelty song basically?

Basically, yes.

Was that a novelty song basically?


Yep, and it was a smash hit in the Y2K era.

Believe it or not, this joke actually used to be a thing in 2001:

http://m.quickmeme.com/meme/34n4

Was that a novelty song basically?


Thong Song will go down in history.

I still laugh at people who think that 1999 was more '00s than '90s. I used to think that way but I've come to my senses :-X 8).


Well since you were born in 1999 and I was in elementary in 1999 lol

The vibe was different, the vibe felt less dirty and gritty and more polished and upbeat

1999 wasn't a '90s year at all to me. It was the first year of 2000s culture. However everyone I know thinks 1999 is very '90s and I don't know why. So many things already changed, bubblegum pop, the internet being commonplace and traditional '90s trends being gone. 1999 is like what 2009 is to the 2000s, part of a brand new decade. Now it was part of the Y2K era still, but Y2K in general belongs to the 2000s was more than it belongs to the 1990s. 2K even means 2000, Y2K is part of the early 2000s (general 2000s culture), not the late 1990s IMO.

Well since you were born in 1999 and I was in elementary in 1999 lol

The vibe was different, the vibe felt less dirty and gritty and more polished and upbeat

You bumped this thread for no reason.

However everyone I know thinks 1999 is very '90s and I don't know why.


It’s most late Millennials that think 1999 was a ‘90s year.

They were born too late to understand that the ‘90s were about getting to the 2000s.

It’s most late Millennials that think 1999 was a ‘90s year.

They were born too late to understand that the ‘90s were about getting to the 2000s.


Family Guy, pre-Movie Spongebob, post-Zordon, pre-Disney Power Rangers, pre-serious Britney Spears, Digimon, Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?, The Sopranos, American Pie, Dreamcast, and Pokemania should be enough clues to confirm the correct answer to the OP's question. A big shift in graphic design to a more "21st century futurist" look. Napster's prime. Even late '90s trends like The Spice Girls, Tamagotchi, Titanic, Big Bad Beetleborgs, The Next Mutation, Hanson, Rachel cuts, and Beanie Babies were passe or on their final stages.

But on the other hand, you still had VHS more popular than DVD, CD sales at their highest level ever, Friends and Frasier right at the midpoint of its run, Clinton still President, an optimistic pre-9/11 atmosphere, CRT monitors even if LCDs were primitively available, and "the '70s" being the nostalgic decade of choice. IMO it was the "tricky year" between being dependably '90s or '00s, with a very "Xennial" tone to it. It's like saying "summer is here" when you've still have a few weeks of school left, yes, by many measures, the features of the season are there, but you still don't truly understand what the atmosphere is like until you've fully arrived at it. 1999 was a year of anticipation rather one of exhalation like 2000 and beyond were.

I just remember the fashion--so much holographic stuff. Everyone was holographic. I remember one girl had a holographic eyeliner and put it on EVERY GIRL she found. I know I had it on.

1999 wasn't a '90s year at all to me. It was the first year of 2000s culture. However everyone I know thinks 1999 is very '90s and I don't know why. So many things already changed, bubblegum pop, the internet being commonplace and traditional '90s trends being gone. 1999 is like what 2009 is to the 2000s, part of a brand new decade. Now it was part of the Y2K era still, but Y2K in general belongs to the 2000s was more than it belongs to the 1990s. 2K even means 2000, Y2K is part of the early 2000s (general 2000s culture), not the late 1990s IMO.


It was the 90's, but watered down with some pre-00s culture creeping in. Bubblegum pop literally defined the late 90's -- late '97 - early '01. It wasn't like '95, but neither was it like '05.

1999 wasn't a '90s year at all to me. It was the first year of 2000s culture. However everyone I know thinks 1999 is very '90s and I don't know why. So many things already changed, bubblegum pop, the internet being commonplace and traditional '90s trends being gone. 1999 is like what 2009 is to the 2000s, part of a brand new decade. Now it was part of the Y2K era still, but Y2K in general belongs to the 2000s was more than it belongs to the 1990s. 2K even means 2000, Y2K is part of the early 2000s (general 2000s culture), not the late 1990s IMO.


It was definitely no where near as 90's as 1995, but 9/11 didn't happen yet, Clinton was still the president, and emo was still practically nonexistent.

It was definitely no where near as 90's as 1995, but 9/11 didn't happen yet, Clinton was still the president, and emo was still practically nonexistent.


ALL OF THIS. 1999-2001 is part of the Y2K Era, neither mostly 90s nor 00s, about half n half.

It was the 90's, but watered down with some pre-00s culture creeping in. Bubblegum pop literally defined the late 90's -- late '97 - early '01. It wasn't like '95, but neither was it like '05.



It was definitely no where near as 90's as 1995, but 9/11 didn't happen yet, Clinton was still the president, and emo was still practically nonexistent.

https://i.imgur.com/45WW0wy.gif

1999 is a 90's year because "The 1990s (pronounced "nineteen-nineties" and abbreviated as the "Nineties") was a decade of the Gregorian calendar that began on January 1, 1990, and ended on December 31, 1999."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s

1999 is a 90's year because "The 1990s (pronounced "nineteen-nineties" and abbreviated as the "Nineties") was a decade of the Gregorian calendar that began on January 1, 1990, and ended on December 31, 1999."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s

^^^

Surprised people are still debating on this. Doesn't really matter as it's not like what we say is really gonna change what 1999 was like. We can give our thoughts on what it FELT like, but we 1999 is still 1999 no matter what. How it seemed from our opinions isn't really relevant anymore. I see 1999 as more 2000s, but someone else could see it as more 1990s-like. But in the end how we see it won't change the year or change anything.

I've said before and I'll say it again, 1995 and 1999 were the peak 90s years. Both years, just going by films alone, capture the zeitgeists of their particular cultural eras. Even though pop culture doesn't change overnight (usually), the changeover from December 31st 1999 to January 1st 2000 was perhaps the biggest leap socially ever, because of so many factors present (religious, social, cultural). As long as we were in 1999, we were in the present. As soon as the calendar changed to 2000, we were in "the future." We had arrived at a point that our grandparents or our great grandparents dreamt of and our parents grew up fascinated by. Even though the pop culture didn't immediately change, I believe the atmosphere changed almost immediately - as if the entirety of the Western world took a great leap into a new era; not merely a change of year, decade or even century but a change of Millennium.

1999 was the big, existential, questioning, excited, optimistic, cautious party which brought the 20th century and 1,900 years of modern history to a close. 2000, even by my own memory, just "felt" like a totally different time. Like we all had crossed some invisible bridge together from which there was no turning back. 

Eh, not really. Fashion only slightly changed from the mid-late '90s.

Most people dressed the same in 1999 as they did in 1995/1996.

That glossy and shiny fashion was mostly a celebrity fashion trend.


This is half true I would say. Most people still probably had half the stuff they were wearing in 1996 in their closets in 1999. But there were some things that you'd have worn proudly in 1996 that you wouldn't have been caught dead in in 1999. I do remember as well that year by year, guys' hair was getting shorter and shorter, fashion (both among the kids and adults) was becoming more preppy and 'corporate' and while you had post-grunge on the radio, the purposely grungy look people of all ages adopted in the mid 90s was a punchline by 1999. Early episodes of Family Guy and the Sopranos openly mock grunge type music. Rap was now right alongside Rock as an established genre, becoming popular even in the white suburbs and had shown it wasn't going away. I don't know that Rap's presence was as pervasive in 1996 as in 1999.

Also, look at MTV. The changeover from the mid 90s where Headbanger's Ball was still a thing to TRL being around and huge in '99. It was vastly important. Any artist or video shown on there in '99 had their songs go to #1.

Also, the years were very different psychologically. I can't speak so much to what people were feeling in 1996, but I do remember a big cautiously optimistic yet apprehensive sense of 'where do we go now' as 2000 got closer and closer.

This is half true I would say. Most people still probably had half the stuff they were wearing in 1996 in their closets in 1999. But there were some things that you'd have worn proudly in 1996 that you wouldn't have been caught dead in in 1999. I do remember as well that year by year, guys' hair was getting shorter and shorter, fashion (both among the kids and adults) was becoming more preppy and 'corporate' and while you had post-grunge on the radio, the purposely grungy look people of all ages adopted in the mid 90s was a punchline by 1999. Early episodes of Family Guy and the Sopranos openly mock grunge type music. Rap was now right alongside Rock as an established genre, becoming popular even in the white suburbs and had shown it wasn't going away. I don't know that Rap's presence was as pervasive in 1996 as in 1999.

Also, look at MTV. The changeover from the mid 90s where Headbanger's Ball was still a thing to TRL being around and huge in '99. It was vastly important. Any artist or video shown on there in '99 had their songs go to #1.

Also, the years were very different psychologically. I can't speak so much to what people were feeling in 1996, but I do remember a big cautiously optimistic yet apprehensive sense of 'where do we go now' as 2000 got closer and closer.


You forgot about Beavis and Butthead.

What about them? They were off the air.

As far as 99 things, you had a comeback of adventure movies with the Mummy, boy bands and girl groups huge, stuff like Limp Bizkit and Papa Roach was huge, Eminem was on his way to the top. All this stuff was around but not nearly as present in 94/95/96.

Compare Woodstock 94 to the 99 version.

99 for me is just the culmination of the 90s, not even in the end of the year sense. Everything the 90s threw out (animated sitcoms, animated teenage satires, pop punk, industrial, modern rap, curtained haircuts, a disaster movie Renaissance, etc) all came to a head in 1999.

I remember the year well. It's one of the weirdest years I can remember because so much was going on. No one knew what the 00s would hold so there was this holding to of 90s things.

I can't speak for everyone else of course, but for me, the 1990s ended on January 1, 1999.  It seemed to be nothing but Y2K and the new millennium after that. It may have still been a part of the 90s on the calendar, but it was something totally different to me than the rest of the decade.

I can't speak for everyone else of course, but for me, the 1990s ended on January 1, 1999.  It seemed to be nothing but Y2K and the new millennium after that. It may have still been a part of the 90s on the calendar, but it was something totally different to me than the rest of the decade.


I cosign but the 90s y2k was different from the 2000s y2k so 99 was still kind of distinctive from the 00.

I can't speak for everyone else of course, but for me, the 1990s ended on January 1, 1999.  It seemed to be nothing but Y2K and the new millennium after that. It may have still been a part of the 90s on the calendar, but it was something totally different to me than the rest of the decade.

That's very arbitrary, in my opinion.

That's very arbitrary, in my opinion.


Which is why I said that I couldn’t speak for anyone else. This was just my personal experience.

Anyone feel 1999's atmosphere was a little darker  than 2000's?

Anyone feel 1999's atmosphere was a little darker  than 2000's?
Seems to be an incredibly upbeat year full of hype/thrill for the future, dont really think I would qualify it as dark ???

Seems to be an incredibly upbeat year full of hype/thrill for the future, dont really think I would qualify it as dark ???

Let me phrase it this way because I wasn't trying to describe either year as dark. Did 2000 feel more upbeat than 1999?

Anyone feel 1999's atmosphere was a little darker  than 2000's?


I think it was. 99 had y2k anxiety. 00 had y2k exhalation.

The 90s was darker than the 00s in general although it had a lot fewer reasons to be.