November 1988-Summer 1990: End of the late 80s/Early Early 90s (George HW Bush elected, start of Disney Renaissance) ("Neon Mullet Era")
Fall 1990-August 1992: Core Early '90s ("Sega Genesis/Super Nintendo/End of the Hair Metal Era")
September 1992-April 1994: End of the Early 90s/Early Mid 90s ("Core Grunge Era")
April 1994-August 1996: Core Mid 90s (Kurt Cobain suicide/Power Rangers/Death of Selena/OJ Trial)
September - December 1996: Beginning of the Late 90s (End of the Macarena/Jon Benet Ramesy murder)
January 1997-June 1999: Core Late 90s (Spice Girls, Boy Bands, Industrial Rock, End of Disney Renaissance, Clinton impeachment)
June 1999-September 11th 2001: End of the late 90s (Limp Bizkit, NuMetal peak, Height of Dot Com Bubble and Crash)

Parts of the 90's in their entirety and influence

The early 90's: Summer 1988 - Fall 1996
Literal definition: 1990-1992 or 1990-1993
Core period: Fall 1991 - Winter 1993
Absolute starting point: NWA's release of F Tha Police (August 9, 1988)
Absolute ending point: Popularity of PS1 rising, release of N64, Tupac's death (all throughout September 1996)
Peak year: 1992

The mid 90's: Fall 1992 - Spring 1999
Literal definition: 1993-1996 or 1994-1996
Core period: Spring 1994 - Summer 1996
Absolute starting point: Clinton's victory against George HW Bush (November 3, 1992)
Absolute ending point: the Columbine shooting (April 20, 1999)
Peak year: 1995

The late 90's: Summer 1995 - Summer/Fall 2001
Literal definition: 1997-1999
Core period: Fall 1997 - Spring 1999
Absolute starting point: Release of Windows 95 (August 24, 1995)
Absolute ending point: 9/11 (September 11, 2001)
Peak year: 1998

I don't see the need to get overly specific and technical about 90s cultural eras, but I would say these are the basic ideas  I have about how the decade is most easily defined, mostly keeping true to the chronological boundaries but trying to recognize particularly significant overall changes as well.

Early 90s (1990 to Mid 1993)

Distinguishing trends:
* House music
* In Living Colour
* Twin Peaks
* Pop Rappers like MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice
* Gulf War
* Bartmania
* CD's and cassettes roughly matched in popularity
* Peak of the Sega Genesis
* Grunge as a major counterculture, but not a mainstream standard

Mid 90s (Late 1993 to Very Early 1997)

Distinguishing trends:
* G-funk
* Alternative rock bent towards grunge
* Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers
* Pogs
* Folksy pop rock like Counting Crows, Hootie & the Blowfish, Blues Traveler, and Gin Blossoms
* Eurodance
* Jim Carrey comedies
* Peak of the Super Nintendo
* The Internet enters the mainstream but is still a novelty
* Grunge clothing
* Plaid skirts
* East vs. West Coast hip hop rivalry
* Britpop

Late 90s (Early-Mid 1997 to Early 1999)

Distinguishing trends:
* Shiny suit hip hop, primarily led by Puff Daddy/Mase-era Bad Boy Records
* No Limit Records
* 5th Generation of Gaming
* Spice Girls
* Teen horror movies
* 3rd Rock from the Sun
* Tamagotchis
* Girl power
* Pop rock starts drifting away from grunge influences and becomes more radio-tailored
* Bubblegum pop, spearheaded by Aqua's "Barbie Girl"
* Frosted, spiky hair
* Dot Com Boom
* Transition from Gen-X to millennial culture
* The Internet is definitely not going away, but not quite everybody has embraced it yet

Y2K Era (Mid 1999 to September 10, 2001)

Distinguishing trends:
* Latin Pop
* Pokémon
* Nu-Metal
* Millennial culture is now completely dominant
* Game Boy Color
* Sega Dreamcast
* Sweat pants
* Tube tops
* Peak of millennial teen pop
* The Internet is more or less standard, albeit still in its primitive stages
* Freaks & Geeks
* Cash Money Records versus Roc-A-Fella Records
* Napster
* Peak of CD music format
* Gross-out comedies

Early 90's- 1990 to September 1992.

Mid 90's- October 1992 to August 1997.

Late 90's-  September 1997 to September 2001.

I don't see the need to get overly specific and technical about 90s cultural eras, but I would say these are the basic ideas  I have about how the decade is most easily defined, mostly keeping true to the chronological boundaries but trying to recognize particularly significant overall changes as well.

Early 90s (1990 to Mid 1993)

Distinguishing trends:
* House music
* In Living Colour
* Twin Peaks
* Pop Rappers like MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice
* Gulf War
* Bartmania
* CD's and cassettes roughly matched in popularity
* Peak of the Sega Genesis
* Grunge as a major counterculture, but not a mainstream standard

Mid 90s (Late 1993 to Very Early 1997)

Distinguishing trends:
* G-funk
* Alternative rock bent towards grunge
* Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers
* Pogs
* Folksy pop rock like Counting Crows, Hootie & the Blowfish, Blues Traveler, and Gin Blossoms
* Eurodance
* Jim Carrey comedies
* Peak of the Super Nintendo
* The Internet enters the mainstream but is still a novelty
* Grunge clothing
* Plaid skirts
* East vs. West Coast hip hop rivalry
* Britpop

Late 90s (Early-Mid 1997 to Early 1999)

Distinguishing trends:
* Shiny suit hip hop, primarily led by Puff Daddy/Mase-era Bad Boy Records
* No Limit Records
* 5th Generation of Gaming
* Spice Girls
* Teen horror movies
* 3rd Rock from the Sun
* Tamagotchis
* Girl power
* Pop rock starts drifting away from grunge influences and becomes more radio-tailored
* Bubblegum pop, spearheaded by Aqua's "Barbie Girl"
* Frosted, spiky hair
* Dot Com Boom
* Transition from Gen-X to millennial culture
* The Internet is definitely not going away, but not quite everybody has embraced it yet

Y2K Era (Mid 1999 to September 10, 2001)

Distinguishing trends:
* Latin Pop
* Pokémon
* Nu-Metal
* Millennial culture is now completely dominant
* Game Boy Color
* Sega Dreamcast
* Sweat pants
* Tube tops
* Peak of millennial teen pop
* The Internet is more or less standard, albeit still in its primitive stages
* Freaks & Geeks
* Cash Money Records versus Roc-A-Fella Records
* Napster
* Peak of CD music format
* Gross-out comedies

I agree with your assessment. The others are too technical and specific.

Early 90s: Late 1988 to Mid 1993

Mid 90s: Late 1993 to Mid 1997

Late 90s: Late 1997 to Mid 1999

Y2K Era: Late 1999 to 9/10/2001

My own personal assessment though is....

The early 1990s: January 1990 until August 1993

The mid 1990s: September 1993 until September 1996

The late 1990s: October 1996 until April 1999

The Y2K/Millennium era: May 1999 until September 11, 2001 (remnants until 2003)

I don't see 1988 or 1989 as 90s. Can anyone tell me how they were 90s?

I don't see 1988 or 1989 as 90s. Can anyone tell me how they were 90s?

I don't either. 1988 and 1989 are odd end years that are different from the norm....most final 2 years of a decade is when the culture is mostly different from the decade's core culture. However, for 1988 and 1989 that is not the case.

I don't see 1988 or 1989 as 90s. Can anyone tell me how they were 90s?


There were a fair number of popular or relevant things those two years that were still relevant during the early 90s. Examples include Bush '41 as President of the United States, CD's being more popular than vinyl, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, New Edition-era new jack swing, Roseanne, Full House, Saved by the Bell, The Wonder Years, the start of the Disney Renaissance with The Little Mermaid, and certain types of songs such as "Buffalo Stance," "Cult of Personality," "It Takes Two," and especially "Back to Life." 1988 and 1989 are still easily majority 80s, however, especially since they're chronologically such. 1990, however, saw a major shift in television and global politics, plus the 90s identity slowly beginning to take form, so anywhere within or right after that year, I think, is aa reasonable starting point for the cultural 90s. Stretching it to late 1991 with the grunge explosion is unnecessary because grunge was only one of many components of 1990s culture.

Big hair peaked in 1987, maybe that's why some see 1988 and 1989 as '90's'.

Big hair peaked in 1987, maybe that's why some see 1988 and 1989 as '90's'.

That doesn't have much to do with anything because "big hair" was still widely popular in 1988 and 1989 and would remain popular until 1993.

This has been played out ad nauseam, but what the hell:

1990 to mid/late 1991 (80s 90s)

Late 1991 to late 1993 (de facto early 90s)

Late 1993 to late 1996 (mid 90s)

Late 1996 to late 1998 (de facto late 90s)

Late 1998 to mid 1999 (late late 90s)

Mid 1999 to late 2001 (turn of the millennium)

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3aqaum
How far into the 90s would a video like this with this type of music and type of look be in style?
This video is from 1987.

There were a fair number of popular or relevant things those two years that were still relevant during the early 90s. Examples include Bush '41 as President of the United States, CD's being more popular than vinyl, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, New Edition-era new jack swing, Roseanne, Full House, Saved by the Bell, The Wonder Years, the start of the Disney Renaissance with The Little Mermaid, and certain types of songs such as "Buffalo Stance," "Cult of Personality," "It Takes Two," and especially "Back to Life." 1988 and 1989 are still easily majority 80s, however, especially since they're chronologically such. 1990, however, saw a major shift in television and global politics, plus the 90s identity slowly beginning to take form, so anywhere within or right after that year, I think, is aa reasonable starting point for the cultural 90s. Stretching it to late 1991 with the grunge explosion is unnecessary because grunge was only one of many components of 1990s culture.


Looking at the 1989 and 1990 charts, it seems 1990 is a lot more 90s and a lot more "urban". But I can see how 1988 and 1989 had some of the 90s culture creeping in.

That doesn't have much to do with anything because "big hair" was still widely popular in 1988 and 1989 and would remain popular until 1993.


To me, big hair was at its peak in 1987 and 1988.  :D

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3aqaum
How far into the 90s would a video like this with this type of music and type of look be in style?
This video is from 1987.

That video wouldn't have been accepted past 1991 (maybe 1992).

To me, big hair was at its peak in 1987 and 1988.  :D

Maybe it was....however, it was still commonly worn until 1993/1994.

That video wouldn't have been accepted past 1991 (maybe 1992).


What do you think the reaction would've been in 1992 since that was a very borderline year?

What do you think the reaction would've been in 1992 since that was a very borderline year?

In 1992, most people would probably feel like the song was slightly out of wack but in 1993 most people would have been out right perplexed

I don't see the need to get overly specific and technical about 90s cultural eras, but I would say these are the basic ideas  I have about how the decade is most easily defined, mostly keeping true to the chronological boundaries but trying to recognize particularly significant overall changes as well.

Early 90s (1990 to Mid 1993)

Distinguishing trends:
* House music
* In Living Colour
* Twin Peaks
* Pop Rappers like MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice
* Gulf War
* Bartmania
* CD's and cassettes roughly matched in popularity
* Peak of the Sega Genesis
* Grunge as a major counterculture, but not a mainstream standard

Mid 90s (Late 1993 to Very Early 1997)

Distinguishing trends:
* G-funk
* Alternative rock bent towards grunge
* Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers
* Pogs
* Folksy pop rock like Counting Crows, Hootie & the Blowfish, Blues Traveler, and Gin Blossoms
* Eurodance
* Jim Carrey comedies
* Peak of the Super Nintendo
* The Internet enters the mainstream but is still a novelty
* Grunge clothing
* Plaid skirts
* East vs. West Coast hip hop rivalry
* Britpop

Late 90s (Early-Mid 1997 to Early 1999)

Distinguishing trends:
* Shiny suit hip hop, primarily led by Puff Daddy/Mase-era Bad Boy Records
* No Limit Records
* 5th Generation of Gaming
* Spice Girls
* Teen horror movies
* 3rd Rock from the Sun
* Tamagotchis
* Girl power
* Pop rock starts drifting away from grunge influences and becomes more radio-tailored
* Bubblegum pop, spearheaded by Aqua's "Barbie Girl"
* Frosted, spiky hair
* Dot Com Boom
* Transition from Gen-X to millennial culture
* The Internet is definitely not going away, but not quite everybody has embraced it yet

Y2K Era (Mid 1999 to September 10, 2001)

Distinguishing trends:
* Latin Pop
* Pokémon
* Nu-Metal
* Millennial culture is now completely dominant
* Game Boy Color
* Sega Dreamcast
* Sweat pants
* Tube tops
* Peak of millennial teen pop
* The Internet is more or less standard, albeit still in its primitive stages
* Freaks & Geeks
* Cash Money Records versus Roc-A-Fella Records
* Napster
* Peak of CD music format
* Gross-out comedies


This doesn't really have much to do with the topic at hand, but I just wanted to say that I'm glad you made that distinction between the peak of the SNES and the peak of the Genesis.

For some reason, people tend to incorrectly lump the entire 16-bit era together as a period dominated by Sega, because all people seem to remember about that era anymore is the "Genesis does what Nintendon't" ad and "Blast Processing". The truth is, like you pointed out, the 4th generation of gaming really consisted of two distinct eras. The Sega Genesis was the dominant console from late 1991 (after the debut of Sonic the Hedgehog) until roughly late 1993. Meanwhile, with the exception of Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles on Genesis, 1994 and 1995 were dominated by the Super Nintendo and it's powerhouse lineup of games.

This doesn't really have much to do with the topic at hand, but I just wanted to say that I'm glad you made that distinction between the peak of the SNES and the peak of the Genesis.

For some reason, people tend to incorrectly lump the entire 16-bit era together as a period dominated by Sega, because all people seem to remember about that era anymore is the "Genesis does what Nintendon't" ad and "Blast Processing". The truth is, like you pointed out, the 4th generation of gaming really consisted of two distinct eras. The Sega Genesis was the dominant console from late 1991 (after the debut of Sonic the Hedgehog) until roughly late 1993. Meanwhile, with the exception of Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles on Genesis, 1994 and 1995 were dominated by the Super Nintendo and it's powerhouse lineup of games.


Yeah, in the early 1990s, the Genesis had a sort of edge over Nintendo, even after the SNES was released, but then Sega started imploding with its horrible marketing choices and rushed new technology. It thought it could continue its winning streak with a "32-bit" peripheral to the Genesis and a hurried launch for the Saturn, but instead, the mid-1990s in home gaming were completely dominated by the Donkey Kong Country trilogy, which one-upped the current gaming generation with the help of a cheap Super FX chip. It's pretty ironic that during the mid-90s, an era of several failed attempts to ignite the 5th generation of gaming with flashy new technology, it was the most barebones product that turned out most successfully prior to the release of Super Mario 64 and commercial takeoff of the PlayStation.

Yeah, in the early 1990s, the Genesis had a sort of edge over Nintendo, even after the SNES was released, but then Sega started imploding with its horrible marketing choices and rushed new technology. It thought it could continue its winning streak with a "32-bit" peripheral to the Genesis and a hurried launch for the Saturn, but instead, the mid-1990s in home gaming were completely dominated by the Donkey Kong Country trilogy, which one-upped the current gaming generation with the help of a cheap Super FX chip. It's pretty ironic that during the mid-90s, an era of several failed attempts to ignite the 5th generation of gaming with flashy new technology, it was the most barebones product that turned out most successfully prior to the release of Super Mario 64 and commercial takeoff of the PlayStation.


The Sega 32X going on the market right before the Saturn launch has got to be the dumbest thing in gaming history. I mean, who's ever heard of a company competing against it's own hardware? That would be like if Nintendo put out a 64-bit add-on for the Super Nintendo just a few months before the Nintendo 64 launched. ::) ;D

My understating is that the main reason it happened was because of a divide between Sega of Japan and Sega of America. The Genesis had sold much better in America than it did in Japan, so SOJ was ready to move on to the Saturn already by 1994 while SOA wanted to keep the Genesis as it's core product a bit longer, thus the decision to create a 32-bit add-on for the Genesis as a way to extend it's life cycle.

After doing everything right in the early '90s, it's amazing how many stupid decisions Sega made in the mid-to-late '90s.

The Sega 32X going on the market right before the Saturn launch has got to be the dumbest thing in gaming history. I mean, who's ever heard of a company competing against it's own hardware? That would be like if Nintendo put out a 64-bit add-on for the Super Nintendo just a few months before the Nintendo 64 launched. ::) ;D

My understating is that the main reason it happened was because of a divide between Sega of Japan and Sega of America. The Genesis had sold much better in America than it did in Japan, so SOJ was ready to move on to the Saturn already by 1994 while SOA wanted to keep the Genesis as it's core product a bit longer, thus the decision to create a 32-bit add-on for the Genesis as a way to extend it's life cycle.

After doing everything right in the early '90s, it's amazing how many stupid decisions Sega made in the mid-to-late '90s.


Good ol' James Rolfe analyzed perfectly how dumb and useless the 32X was 10 years ago (!) here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VvR_3OTxs8A

My take on the decades.

The 70's era: 1969-1986
Post-Jefferson Micky Thomas power era: 1985-present
The pre-90's 90's where it was pretty much like the 90's and the 80's were dead but the numbers didn't line up era: 1987-1988
No wait, now it's really the 90's era: 1989-1991
The Ultimate TMNT 90's era: 1990
Ok, now we're in the 90's! Nirvana changed all music forever with only two top 40 hits... The 90's!!! era: 1991-1994
Computers and stuff era: 1995-2001
The dark scary modern hannah montana jonas brothers era: late 2001-2016
Jesus Christ becomes president and saves america era: 2017-present

I'll will always be a 1998 fan!!!  8)  8)  8)

Jordan, you've got it all wrong, this is where the shifts really happened.

3761 B.C. to 1919: Ancient Era, nobody cares lol
1920 to 1945: Vintage Era, decades are a thing now, but 1945 is pretty much like the 20s.
1946 to 1965: The 1950s, everybody was rockabillying Peggy Sue style from VJ Day all the way to the rise of hippies.
1966 to 1977: The 1960s, hippies weren't common until 1966, therefore the 60s started that year. Hotel California and Rumours still have kind of a 60s feel to them.
1978 to 1984: The 1970s, hippies were finally gone.
1985 to September 23, 1991: The 1980s, pretty much the same culture all the way through, everyone wore neon clothes and listened to Poison.
September 24, 1991 to April 7, 1994: The Early 90s, once Nevermind was released in stores, everything changed and grunge was everywhere. Grunge became passé once Kurt Cobain was discovered dead.
April 8, 1994 to June, 1999: The Core 90s, people listened to gangsta rap while looking at the Internet.
July, 1999 to August, 2006: The Early 2000s, the 2000s didn't really have an identity, they were pretty much just an extension of the 90s.
September 2006 to December 2007: The Core 2000s, there was a humongous shift in late 2006 that finally ended the 90s.
January 2008 - November 7, 2016: The 2010s electropop Era, iPhones were everywhere and songs like Chris Brown's "Forever" could be heard wherever you went.
November 8, 2016: The Trump Era, whereas the 2008-2016 era was all about SJW's and hipsters, nowadays teenagers love wearing Make America Great Again hats and priding themselves on their xenophobia, racism, and misogyny.

Oh yes, but you forgot to separate 1990 from the rest of the 90's as it is the ultimate 90's year. 1990 - the year of TMNT, Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer. Otherwise, I'd say it's an excellent scientific analysis of the cultural decades.

I'll will always be a 1998 fan!!!  8)  8)  8)

What's so special about 1998? :-\\

I'll will always be a 1998 fan!!!  8)  8)  8)


Here here!

What's so special about 1998? :-\\


I mean, this picture sums up the greatness that was 1998:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/30/1412083753344_Image_galleryImage_King_jpg.JPG

I mean, this picture sums up the greatness that was 1998:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/30/1412083753344_Image_galleryImage_King_jpg.JPG
Greatness? But we all know what happened to the Titanic!

What's so special about 1998? :-\\


It's just one of my most favorite years of my life! I'm totally biased!!!  8)  8)  8)

Here here!


You're a fan of the year too!  :D  :D

I mean, this picture sums up the greatness that was 1998:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/30/1412083753344_Image_galleryImage_King_jpg.JPG


Even though the movie came out on December 19, 1997, the movie was still huge up until April, or May, of 1998. So it's still relevant to 1998.  8)

Greatness? But we all know what happened to the Titanic!


The titanic had an emotional breakdown.  :(  :(  :(

Even though the movie came out on December 19, 1997, the movie was still huge up until April, or May, of 1998. So it's still relevant to 1998.  8)
I remember it well, we had set out for a family viewing of "Titanic" at a cinema in February 1998, and all went horribly wrong for us that day and we never got to see it.

What's so special about 1998? :-\\
For me, apart from being out of work, I had freedom.

You're a fan of the year too!  :D  :D


Yep, 1998 is perhaps the year that best sums up my core childhood from 1996-2002. It was a real 90s year (the absolute height of the late 90s) and a perfect blend of old school and new school for my taste. Truly the best of both worlds.

Yep, 1998 is perhaps the year that best sums up my core childhood from 1996-2002. It was a real 90s year (the absolute height of the late 90s) and a perfect blend of old school and new school for my taste. Truly the best of both worlds.

I've seen a ton of videos and movies from 1998 and 1998 is not that different from 2017...:-X.

My take on the decades.

The 70's era: 1969-1986
Post-Jefferson Micky Thomas power era: 1985-present
The pre-90's 90's where it was pretty much like the 90's and the 80's were dead but the numbers didn't line up era: 1987-1988
No wait, now it's really the 90's era: 1989-1991
The Ultimate TMNT 90's era: 1990
Ok, now we're in the 90's! Nirvana changed all music forever with only two top 40 hits... The 90's!!! era: 1991-1994
Computers and stuff era: 1995-2001
The dark scary modern hannah montana jonas brothers era: late 2001-2016
Jesus Christ becomes president and saves america era: 2017-present


Nah, it's more like this.

The Vietnam f*cks America up/Oil crisis era (early 1970s): 1969-1974

The Jimmy Carter era (mid-late 70s): 1975-1980

The Ronald Reagonomics/Middle East turns for the worst era (1980s): 1981-1988

The post Iran-Iraq War/Totally Bill's Adventure era (early 1990s): 1989-1993

The Bill Clinton/Economic "prosperity" era (1990s): 1994-2001

The Middle East has WMDs/Sopranos/GTA/Spongebob era: 2002-2009

The pre-SJW/BLM era: 2010-2012

The post-SJW/BLM era: 2013-present

Seriously, NYR, do you have any sense of humor or sarcasm? I'm not trying to be mean, but it would really help you in life if you didn't take everything obviously ridiculous so seriously.

Seriously, NYR, do you have any sense of humor or sarcasm? I'm not trying to be mean, but it would really help you in life if you didn't take everything obviously ridiculous so seriously.


As much as you tried to say you weren't mean, that really hurt my feelings. The reason why I can't precisely take most things funny in an abstract sense is because of my autism. I think maybe you should realize that since I stated that many times in my posts. My post was trying to be funny, especially towards the decades. If I was taking it literally, I would've used the same decade chart that I used for every single post I had.

I thought you were my friend Infinity, but that was honestly a dick move. Also for your information, I do have a sense of humor. I laugh at stuff like Dave Chapelle, Eddie Murphy, Jon Stewart, Angry Video Game Nerd, Internet memes, Daria (which is my favorite MTV show of all time), and others. So that honestly offended me when you said that.

I've seen a ton of videos and movies from 1998 and 1998 is not that different from 2017...:-X.


You've got to be kidding. If you had told me back in 1998 that one day I'd be able to watch movies on my telephone, I would've flipped my lid. All I had back then was a Game Boy that I couldn't play in the dark without a worm light. ;D

As much as you tried to say you weren't mean, that really hurt my feelings. The reason why I can't precisely take most things funny in an abstract sense is because of my autism. I think maybe you should realize that since I stated that many times in my posts. My post was trying to be funny, especially towards the decades. If I was taking it literally, I would've used the same decade chart that I used for every single post I had.

I thought you were my friend Infinity, but that was honestly a dick move. Also for your information, I do have a sense of humor. I laugh at stuff like Dave Chapelle, Eddie Murphy, Jon Stewart, Angry Video Game Nerd, Internet memes, Daria (which is my favorite MTV show of all time), and others. So that honestly offended me when you said that.


I'm sincerely sorry you feel gravely offended by what I just wrote, because in the long run, I think you're a genuinely nice person and I don't wish ill on you, but I also feel that learning to develop a sense of verbal humor is really healthy for yourself, and I just wish I could convey that, because it still seems like you have trouble discerning blatant sarcasm from sincere opinion. You had already not explicitly identified my "1999-2006 is the early 2000s, with ripples lasting until 2009" schtick as sarcasm, and so I couldn't tell if you were being serious or not here; since you were just trying to make a joke, I'm sorry for being mistaken.

As for your autism, I can personally empathize with you because I myself grew up not being able to read between the lines for humor, but as I learned from a lot of my bad experiences, sometimes letting free of all pretense and not being so hard on myself is not only emancipating to my self confidence, but also pivotal to others getting along with me. I may not always feel perfect, and I get frequently depressed about my struggle to find a lovergirl, but allowing myself to find humor not just in comedy shows and movies but also in everyday conversation has made a world of difference in my life at the right time, and I've really felt, knowing you for the past couple of years or so, that you could probably alleviate so much stress in your life if you did the same.

I feel that your autism should not be an excuse to not try, but rather a motivator to become even greater than ever. As far as I know, people on the spectrum are brilliant and terribly misunderstood, and they can easily apply their mental assets in order to learn, in their own way, how to overcome their personal struggles. All that really matters is that you have a decent self-awareness of your shortcomings and a heartfelt passion to conquer them.

Once again, I apogize for hurting your feelings. I just hope you can realize that I'm only trying to be kind and helpful to you in the long run, even if my constructive criticism seems harsh right now.

You've got to be kidding. If you had told me back in 1998 that one day I'd be able to watch movies on my telephone, I would've flipped my lid. All I had back then was a Game Boy that I couldn't play in the dark without a worm light. ;D


If the characters in said videos were wearing plain-Jane t-shirts, jeans, and other neutral clothing, not to mention no bowl cuts, curtained cuts, or anything else distinctly 90s, then I can see somewhat where he's coming from. Some, albeit not all films from the late 90s have lighting and resolution that still looks fairly current, especially depending on the format you're watching them on.

Once again, I apogize for hurting your feelings. I just hope you can realize that I'm only trying to be kind and helpful to you in the long run, even if my constructive criticism seems harsh right now.


I forgive you. It's just that I take most of these posts seriously since I don't feel comfortable being here. In fact, this forum feels so repetitive whenever people (such as Zelek3 and the2001) make all of these threads about the 2000s that it all looks the same. I sometimes think that I should leave this forum, since it doesn't really give me nostalgia at all.

I forgive you. It's just that I take most of these posts seriously since I don't feel comfortable being here. In fact, this forum feels so repetitive whenever people (such as Zelek3 and the2001) make all of these threads about the 2000s that it all looks the same. I sometimes think that I should leave this forum, since it doesn't really give me nostalgia at all.


You shouldn't leave, we all genuinely care about you, and it's very evident that this site gives you plenty to discuss that you do in fact enjoy, even if the boards seem mundane on certain days. You're an integral part of this community's spirit, and we would deeply miss you if you decided to depart the board forever. Here, we want to embrace, accept, support, and help you, not malign you.

You shouldn't leave, we all genuinely care about you, and it's very evident that this site gives you plenty to discuss that you do in fact enjoy, even if the boards seem mundane on certain days. You're an integral part of this community's spirit, and we would deeply miss you if you decided to depart the board forever. Here, we want to embrace, accept, support, and help you, not malign you.


I agree. But I don't think I really enjoy most of these threads now. I just wish I could happily post on these forums once again, since it's not as great as it used to be.

All of you guys were SPOT ON!!! :)

So many of these threads are just a bunch of lists. Is this the result of using PowerPoint, or that writing code has had on society? There's a list of years and each list is followed by a list of things from that year (or influential that year) and these lists are used to define early, late, core, peak etc. I think the growing autism in society is cultural in origin, the result of formalizing everything to the point where even people's thinking becomes almost mechanical, like a process chopped up into discrete parts for the sake of tweaking it. Meanwhile there have been no definitive conclusions about how best to sort out different periods of time.

So many of these threads are just a bunch of lists. Is this the result of using PowerPoint, or that writing code has had on society? There's a list of years and each list is followed by a list of things from that year (or influential that year) and these lists are used to define early, late, core, peak etc. I think the growing autism in society is cultural in origin, the result of formalizing everything to the point where even people's thinking becomes almost mechanical, like a process chopped up into discrete parts for the sake of tweaking it. Meanwhile there have been no definitive conclusions about how best to sort out different periods of time.


They aren't all just lists, and even plenty that are are sarcastic. Some of us have talked more thoroughly and personally about the evolution of popular culture than just a bunch of years.

I also think it's really unfair to negatively generalize lists as an autistic phenomenon. Organization is actually a positive thing, at least if you can expand upon your definitions as more than just vague statements, i.e. "2002 still had a 90s vibe," and nothing else.

So many of these threads are just a bunch of lists. Is this the result of using PowerPoint, or that writing code has had on society? There's a list of years and each list is followed by a list of things from that year (or influential that year) and these lists are used to define early, late, core, peak etc. I think the growing autism in society is cultural in origin, the result of formalizing everything to the point where even people's thinking becomes almost mechanical, like a process chopped up into discrete parts for the sake of tweaking it. Meanwhile there have been no definitive conclusions about how best to sort out different periods of time.


Signs of autism show up at 1-3 years of age, before anyone has learnt PowerPoint or coding, so I don't think the two are related.

Signs of autism show up at 1-3 years of age, before anyone has learnt PowerPoint or coding, so I don't think the two are related.


You can be a numbers geek and not be on the spectrum, just as you can have autism and not exhibit any stereotypes about people with autism.

So many of these threads are just a bunch of lists. Is this the result of using PowerPoint, or that writing code has had on society? There's a list of years and each list is followed by a list of things from that year (or influential that year) and these lists are used to define early, late, core, peak etc. I think the growing autism in society is cultural in origin, the result of formalizing everything to the point where even people's thinking becomes almost mechanical, like a process chopped up into discrete parts for the sake of tweaking it. Meanwhile there have been no definitive conclusions about how best to sort out different periods of time.


I'm pretty much the only autistic person (aside from TheKid99) in this forum. Hell, I sometimes takes this lists seriously compared to the other users. Although I don't think a lot of autistic people would enjoy talking about these kinds of lists, since this is mostly a nostalgic forum.


Signs of autism show up at 1-3 years of age, before anyone has learnt PowerPoint or coding, so I don't think the two are related.


You could still be diagnosed with autism at ages 1-3 and still have the ability to do PowerPoint presentations or coding.

Oh, I know! I'm just saying that coding or using PowerPoint doesn't lead to autism. As if if we removed those things then autism wouldn't exist.  :-X

Oh, I know! I'm just saying that coding or using PowerPoint doesn't lead to autism. As if if we removed those things then autism wouldn't exist.  :-X


lol yeah

But autistic people pretty much have more interests than just coding or PowerPoint. I for one have a fascination with computers (specifically Windows PCs) since I was 3. However, I was diagnosed with autism before I became obsessed with technology. So it didn't really matter if computers gave me autism or not.

You've got to be kidding. If you had told me back in 1998 that one day I'd be able to watch movies on my telephone, I would've flipped my lid. All I had back then was a Game Boy that I couldn't play in the dark without a worm light. ;D

If you did the same thing to me in 2006....I would of done the same thing. What's your point? ??? I didn't say that life was the same but in the grand scheme of things life is not that different now than it was in 1998.


If the characters in said videos were wearing plain-Jane t-shirts, jeans, and other neutral clothing, not to mention no bowl cuts, curtained cuts, or anything else distinctly 90s, then I can see somewhat where he's coming from. Some, albeit not all films from the late 90s have lighting and resolution that still looks fairly current, especially depending on the format you're watching them on.

Fashion is always evolving...that doesn't mean that life now is drastically different from 1998.

If you did the same thing to me in 2006....I would of done the same thing. What's your point? ??? I didn't say that life was the same but in the grand scheme of things life is not that different now than it was in 1998.
Fashion is always evolving...that doesn't mean that life now is drastically different from 1998.


Are you trolling? :o

If you did the same thing to me in 2006....I would of done the same thing. What's your point? ??? I didn't say that life was the same but in the grand scheme of things life is not that different now than it was in 1998.
Fashion is always evolving...that doesn't mean that life now is drastically different from 1998.


I really liked the cartoons at that time, so perhaps that should be taken into account. I'm a big cartoon guy, so good cartoons are a big deal to me, and a big chunk of why I like 1998 so much. Also, I did say I'm highly biased towards that era of my life, personally, sometimes annoyingly so.  :-X  :-X  :-X

And also, mainstream music was way better in 1998, at least in my eyes.

I don't know what causes autism, but I remember reading that back in the 1960's, there were already people with it, probably way longer back, too.

If you did the same thing to me in 2006....I would of done the same thing. What's your point? ??? I didn't say that life was the same but in the grand scheme of things life is not that different now than it was in 1998.


I think it depends on how you look at it. If you're comparing it to the 1800's then no it's not that different. We still had cars, planes and computers back in 1998. But, some of the ways we live have changed since 1998, particularly the way we consume entertainment.

For example, if I wanted to watch a particular show in 1998, I had to look through a TV Guide to find out when it was coming on, then either set up my VCR to record the show at that exact time, or be sitting in front of my TV set when it aired or I was out of luck. Now I don't even have to DVR a show anymore to watch it. I can use apps like Hulu to watch something on demand whenever I want to.

Again, we're not talking about massive changes, but the average person's way of life certainly is somewhat different than it was in 1998. Many of the small things you did back then (like making sure you had change in your pocket for the payphone, or buying TV Guides, or going to Blockbuster, or even being able to smoke inside restaurants) have gone by the wayside.

I personally think YouTube and Wikipedia are the two most changeful phenomena since the rise of the Internet itself because they've made it dramatically easier to consume and discover mountains of information and media that previously would've required you to talk to friends or scan through a book. Their impact stretches well beyond all the little things that the Internet made obsolete.

I think it depends on how you look at it. If you're comparing it to the 1800's then no it's not that different. We still had cars, planes and computers back in 1998. But, some of the ways we live have changed since 1998, particularly the way we consume entertainment.

For example, if I wanted to watch a particular show in 1998, I had to look through a TV Guide to find out when it was coming on, then either set up my VCR to record the show at that exact time, or be sitting in front of my TV set when it aired or I was out of luck. Now I don't even have to DVR a show anymore to watch it. I can use apps like Hulu to watch something on demand whenever I want to.

Again, we're not talking about massive changes, but the average person's way of life certainly is somewhat different than it was in 1998. Many of the small things you did back then (like making sure you had change in your pocket for the payphone, or buying TV Guides, or going to Blockbuster, or even being able to smoke inside restaurants) have gone by the wayside.


And not many people go to Blockbuster anymore!  :P

Are you trolling? :o

Trolling? Why would I be trolling? ???


I think it depends on how you look at it. If you're comparing it to the 1800's then no it's not that different. We still had cars, planes and computers back in 1998. But, some of the ways we live have changed since 1998, particularly the way we consume entertainment.

For example, if I wanted to watch a particular show in 1998, I had to look through a TV Guide to find out when it was coming on, then either set up my VCR to record the show at that exact time, or be sitting in front of my TV set when it aired or I was out of luck. Now I don't even have to DVR a show anymore to watch it. I can use apps like Hulu to watch something on demand whenever I want to.

Again, we're not talking about massive changes, but the average person's way of life certainly is somewhat different than it was in 1998. Many of the small things you did back then (like making sure you had change in your pocket for the payphone, or buying TV Guides, or going to Blockbuster, or even being able to smoke inside restaurants) have gone by the wayside.

Yeah, that's essentially my point. I never said that life was the same now as it was in 1998 but if you're comparing 1988 to 2017 vs 1998 to 2017 then 1998 is closer to 2017 than 1988. I'm thinking that you guys are looking too deep into my statement or maybe it's because I was only conceived in 1998 and did not get to experience 1998 :P.

I agree. But I don't think I really enjoy most of these threads now. I just wish I could happily post on these forums once again, since it's not as great as it used to be.


The one thing that has annoyed me in recent times about inthe00s, is the over saturation of threads (and posts) which are about the year 2006. I don't want to name names (i'm not referring to you), but the dribble about January-September 2006 being the "real 2000s" and September-December 2006 being the "fake 2000s" is really starting to become ridiculous. That joke stopped being funny a few months ago, there's no need to repeat it on every single thread which may relate to 2006 or the Late 2000s.

Imagewise, things look the same since 1992/1993, on a big scale.

Yeah, that's essentially my point. I never said that life was the same now as it was in 1998 but if you're comparing 1988 to 2017 vs 1998 to 2017 then 1998 is closer to 2017 than 1988. I'm thinking that you guys are looking too deep into my statement or maybe it's because I was only conceived in 1998 and did not get to experience 1998 :P.


I get what you're saying, and I pretty much agree with it. I'll admit that my perspective on this is probably a little bit skewed. Our family did not get a computer or a cell phone until 1999, so to me 1998 is the last year of my life that is pretty much 100% "old school". My life in 1998 really was no different than an 11-year-old living in 1988, except that I had better video games. On the other hand, if you had the internet and a cell phone in 1998, obviously that would not be the case.

Imagewise, things look the same since 1992/1993, on a big scale.

1992 and 1993 are much less similar to 2017 than 1998.

I get what you're saying, and I pretty much agree with it. I'll admit that my perspective on this is probably a little bit skewed. Our family did not get a computer or a cell phone until 1999, so to me 1998 is the last year of my life that is pretty much 100% "old school". My life in 1998 really was no different than an 11-year-old living in 1988, except that I had better video games. On the other hand, if you had the internet and a cell phone in 1998, obviously that would not be the case.

OK, I think that we essentially agree :).

It's not a matter of autism (at least then they have an excuse and everyone knows to go easy on them and help them out), it's just a matter of people who know better but don't make an effort to stop being annoying and posting stupid sh!t about "duh gennurrationz cartoon network bumburz reprezented da 80s in 2005" over and over and over again. Even worse is when people dig up ancient topics about the same current topics just to give their two cents. ::)

The one thing that has annoyed me in recent times about inthe00s, is the over saturation of threads (and posts) which are about the year 2006. I don't want to name names (i'm not referring to you), but the dribble about January-September 2006 being the "real 2000s" and September-December 2006 being the "fake 2000s" is really starting to become ridiculous. That joke stopped being funny a few months ago, there's no need to repeat it on every single thread which may relate to 2006 or the Late 2000s.


I know people like me here and I agree with that, but this is the sole reason why I don't like being in these forums. Literally almost everything that people talk about is the downfall of the 2000s, which really pisses me off because I love that decade to bits. It also makes it extremely boring for people who don't care for 2006.

The one thing that has annoyed me in recent times about inthe00s, is the over saturation of threads (and posts) which are about the year 2006. I don't want to name names (i'm not referring to you), but the dribble about January-September 2006 being the "real 2000s" and September-December 2006 being the "fake 2000s" is really starting to become ridiculous. That joke stopped being funny a few months ago, there's no need to repeat it on every single thread which may relate to 2006 or the Late 2000s.



I know people like me here and I agree with that, but this is the sole reason why I don't like being in these forums. Literally almost everything that people talk about is the downfall of the 2000s, which really pisses me off because I love that decade to bits. It also makes it extremely boring for people who don't care for 2006.

I agree wholeheartedly with the both of you.

I wish more people here would open up talk about the mid 80's to mid 90's, even a bit of late 70's/early 80's, rather than discussing everything 1997-present ad nauseam. ::) And not just debates about the changes all the time, just discussions about what things we liked during that time. I could easily talk about my favorite albums, clothes and movies from 1985 or 1992 or 1987. Whatever. Sharing memories is cool, too. There are times when I've posted in a year-related thread with a memory of mine only to have the rest of the thread continue with "da shiff begun dis year becuz cartoon nickelodin changed dah bummburr". So lame. ::)

I wish more people here would open up talk about the mid 80's to mid 90's, even a bit of late 70's/early 80's, rather than discussing everything 1997-present ad nauseam. ::) And not just debates about the changes all the time, just discussions about what things we liked during that time. I could easily talk about my favorite albums, clothes and movies from 1985 or 1992 or 1987. Whatever. Sharing memories is cool, too. There are times when I've posted in a year-related thread with a memory of mine only to have the rest of the thread continue with "da shiff begun dis year becuz cartoon nickelodin changed dah bummburr". So lame. ::)

Exactly ;D. It gets annoying.

I wish more people here would open up talk about the mid 80's to mid 90's, even a bit of late 70's/early 80's, rather than discussing everything 1997-present ad nauseam. ::) And not just debates about the changes all the time, just discussions about what things we liked during that time. I could easily talk about my favorite albums, clothes and movies from 1985 or 1992 or 1987. Whatever. Sharing memories is cool, too. There are times when I've posted in a year-related thread with a memory of mine only to have the rest of the thread continue with "da shiff begun dis year becuz cartoon nickelodin changed dah bummburr". So lame. ::)


I want to talk about the 1920s and 1930s!  8) Music was good until it went down the toilet in the late 1950s. (Until it got good again in the 2010s). It would be cool if people could share their personal memories from then too

Early '90s (Neon era): 1990-1992

* The Simpsons premieres
* Super Nintendo Entertainment System is released in the United States
* Pop rappers MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice

Mid '90s (Ravewear/Grunge period): 1993 - 1995

* Bill Clinton takes office
* Kurt Cobain commits suicide
* OJ trial


Late '90s (Nautica/Tommy Hilfiger era) : 1996-1998

* Spice Girls
* Macarena
* Boy Bands

Trolling? Why would I be trolling? ???
Yeah, that's essentially my point. I never said that life was the same now as it was in 1998 but if you're comparing 1988 to 2017 vs 1998 to 2017 then 1998 is closer to 2017 than 1988. I'm thinking that you guys are looking too deep into my statement or maybe it's because I was only conceived in 1998 and did not get to experience 1998 :P.


Distance is probably around the same.

You won't see a teenage male heartthrob anywhere with a bowl cut today like you would if you took a time machine to 1998.

Similarly, I doubt you'd see mullets then too.

Distance is probably around the same.

You won't see a teenage male heartthrob anywhere with a bowl cut today like you would if you took a time machine to 1998.

Similarly, I doubt you'd see mullets then too.

Yeah but looking at both 1988 and 1998 and comparing them to 2017. 1998 is much closer to 2017 than 1988. Of course, life now isn't the same as 1998 (1998 was pre-9/11, US economy was in a surplus, the Web wasn't in the state it is in now)...however, 1988 was before the end of the Cold War, Soviet Union still exists, the Web is not even a thing, vinyls are still popular more than CDs, the Internet is not available to the public (only the US military and other foreign governments), etc.

Yeah but looking at both 1988 and 1998 and comparing them to 2017. 1998 is much closer to 2017 than 1988. Of course, life now isn't the same as 1998 (1998 was pre-9/11, US economy was in a surplus, the Web wasn't in the state it is in now)...however, 1988 was before the end of the Cold War, Soviet Union still exists, the Web is not even a thing, vinyls are still popular more than CDs, the Internet is not available to the public (only the US military and other foreign governments), etc.


1988 was also the last year before the Fall of the Berlin Wall.

Don't forget about music tapes.

https://tristanlouthrobins.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/cassette-tape.jpg

1988 was also the last year before the Fall of the Berlin Wall.

Don't forget about music tapes.

https://tristanlouthrobins.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/cassette-tape.jpg

Yep, you're correct.