1999 - The Year of my Birth

Was 1999 more '90s or more '00s in your opinion?

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Geopolitically, it was clearly still 90s, but culturally, it was more 2000s. It was the first full year that overwhelmingly targeted millennials instead of Gen-X. It had things such as bright, simple clothing; anime as a serious force in western animation, nu-metal being more popular than traditional alternative rock, the Internet and AIM being in several households, the Dreamcast kickstarting the sixth generation of gaming (though the N64 and PS1 were still popular as well), cell phones overtaking pagers, poster and album cover art being much cleaner and glossier than the scroungy, unrefined style of just a few years prior; The Matrix and The Phantom Menace being the two biggest films of the year, and several significant television shows that lasted well into the 2000s, such as The Sopranos, Will & Grace, and King of Queens.

There was still a considerable amount of 90s influence through the rest of the Y2K era, but 1999 was pretty much when the basic foundations of what separated the 2000s from the 90s were first really evident. In my opinion, aside from global politics, 1999 is pretty much as culturally close to 2005 as it is to 1996.

Geopolitically, it was clearly still 90s, but culturally, it was more 2000s. It was the first full year that overwhelmingly targeted millennials instead of Gen-X. It had things such as bright, simple clothing; anime as a serious force in western animation, nu-metal being more popular than traditional alternative rock, the Internet and AIM being in several households, the Dreamcast kickstarting the sixth generation of gaming (though the N64 and PS1 were still popular as well), cell phones overtaking pagers, poster and album cover art being much cleaner and glossier than the scroungy, unrefined style of just a few years prior; The Matrix and The Phantom Menace being the two biggest films of the year, and several significant television shows that lasted well into the 2000s, such as The Sopranos, Will & Grace, and King of Queens.

There was still a considerable amount of 90s influence through the rest of the Y2K era, but 1999 was pretty much when the basic foundations of what separated the 2000s from the 90s were first really evident. In my opinion, aside from global politics, 1999 is pretty much as culturally close to 2005 as it is to 1996.

One nitpick, Will & Grace started in September 1998.

However, overall I agree with you. 1999 was more '00s than '90s culturally.

It was a weird year.

One nitpick, Will & Grace started in September 1998.

King of Queens, Sex and the City, and a handful of others also premiered in 1998, but their runs consisted far more of the 2000s than the 1990s, hence their significance. Not to mention, Seinfeld was over and The Simpsons was definitively past its golden era by 1999.

King of Queens, Sex and the City, and a handful of others also premiered in 1998, but their runs consisted far more of the 2000s than the 1990s, hence their significance. Not to mention, Seinfeld was over and The Simpsons was definitively past its golden era by 1999.

Oh yeah, I forgot that The King of Queens premiered in '98. Anyways, yeah....1999 was when a lot of great shows were either ending or over the hill.

Geopolitically, it was clearly still 90s, but culturally, it was more 2000s. It was the first full year that overwhelmingly targeted millennials instead of Gen-X.


I agree with the points you raised. In regards to generation cultures, I believe 1999 was also the final year where Gen X culture maintained some form of relevance in popular culture. Pearl Jam and The Offspring had releases which peaked within the Top 10 in multiple charts around the world, with the former having a release which peaked at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100 ("Last Kiss"). Shows such as The X-Files, Melrose Place, Clueless and Home Improvement were still on-air, although the latter three would conclude in the middle of the year. There was definitely still a minor Gen X influence at the time, in my opinion.

Honestly, the year wasn't very 2000s, but the year was still modern compared to the 90s.

Reasons why 1999 was more '00s:
* The Sopranos, Spongebob, and Family Guy all premiered at the same year. All of those shows were well known throughout the 2000s.
* Prevue Guide was changed as the TV Guide Channel on February 1, 1999, which stayed that way until it was the Pop Network in 2015.
* Jon Stewart debuts as the host of The Daily Show. He was the host until 2015, when he was replaced with Trevor Noah.
* In late 1999, PTV was replaced with PBS Kids, which is widely popular towards PBS stations to this day. Although, their 1999 bumpers were changed in 2013.
* It was the first year after Seinfeld ended, which was the most notable show in the 90s.
* Netscape already published their Mozilla code to other browser developers.
* Gen Y culture started to rise up against Gen Xers.

Reasons why 1999 could be more 90s:
* Bill Clinton was still the president of the U.S.
* Everyone either used Windows 95/98, Mac OS 8/9, or early versions of Linux with their computers.
* AOL was still dominant throughout the year, including the dot-com bubble.

Honestly, the year wasn't very 2000s, but the year was still modern compared to the 90s.

Reasons why 1999 was more '00s:
* The Sopranos, Spongebob, and Family Guy all premiered at the same year. All of those shows were well known throughout the 2000s.
* Prevue Guide was changed as the TV Guide Channel on February 1, 1999, which stayed that way until it was the Pop Network in 2015.
* Jon Stewart debuts as the host of The Daily Show. He was the host until 2015, when he was replaced with Trevor Noah.
* In late 1999, PTV was replaced with PBS Kids, which is widely popular towards PBS stations to this day. Although, their 1999 bumpers were changed in 2013.
* It was the first year after Seinfeld ended, which was the most notable show in the 90s.
* Netscape already published their Mozilla code to other browser developers.
* Gen Y culture started to rise up against Gen Xers.

Reasons why 1999 could be more 90s:
* Bill Clinton was still the president of the U.S.
* Everyone either used Windows 95/98, Mac OS 8/9, or early versions of Linux with their computers.
* AOL was still dominant throughout the year, including the dot-com bubble.

Great points bruv :).

Stuff that made it more 90's
*Clinton was still the president.
*Windows 95 and Windows 98 were examples of the most popular forms of computer usage.
*The last several classic 90's shows were still on air (Beverly Hills 90210, Frasier, Boy Meets World, Diagnosis Murder, etc)
*Dot Com Bubble still existed.
*Last year before reality TV exploded.
*Walkmans were still king over iPods (not even existing yet)
*9/11 and Iraq both didn't happen yet.

Stuff that made it more 2000's
*Spongebob, Family Guy, The Sopranos, and Who Wants to be a Millionaire all debuted that year.
*South Park starts to gain more popularity (it also did by late '98)
*The Columbine Shooting escalates the fear of schoolyard violence and tightens zero-tolerance policies at school grounds.
*Britney, Christina Aguilera, and Jessica Simpson were relevant and popular that year.
*Broadband, though not popular at the time, gets introduced.
*First full year where Millennials truly had a profound impact on pop culture.
*Music probably started to get targeted towards younger audiences.

Verdict: Undecided

Stuff that made it more 90's
*Clinton was still the president.
*Windows 95 and Windows 98 were examples of the most popular forms of computer usage.
*The last several classic 90's shows were still on air (Beverly Hills 90210, Frasier, Boy Meets World, Diagnosis Murder, etc)
*Dot Com Bubble still existed.
*Last year before reality TV exploded.
*Walkmans were still king over iPods (not even existing yet)
*9/11 and Iraq both didn't happen yet.

Stuff that made it more 2000's
*Spongebob, Family Guy, The Sopranos, and Who Wants to be a Millionaire all debuted that year.
*South Park starts to gain more popularity (it also did by late '98)
*The Columbine Shooting escalates the fear of schoolyard violence and tightens zero-tolerance policies at school grounds.
*Britney, Christina Aguilera, and Jessica Simpson were relevant and popular that year.
*Broadband, though not popular at the time, gets introduced.
*First full year where Millennials truly had a profound impact on pop culture.
*Music probably started to get targeted towards younger audiences.

Verdict: Undecided

Another great detailed post :).

Stuff that made it more 90's
*Clinton was still the president.
*Windows 95 and Windows 98 were examples of the most popular forms of computer usage.
*The last several classic 90's shows were still on air (Beverly Hills 90210, Frasier, Boy Meets World, Diagnosis Murder, etc)
*Dot Com Bubble still existed.
*Last year before reality TV exploded.
*Walkmans were still king over iPods (not even existing yet)
*9/11 and Iraq both didn't happen yet.


Both of those events didn't happen in 2000 as well.

DVD's started becoming huge in 1999. Lots of DVD commercials too.

DVD's started becoming huge in 1999. Lots of DVD commercials too.


I forgot all about that. And I also forgot about the Euro being introduced to eleven countries.

I forgot all about that. And I also forgot about the Euro being introduced to three countries.


I didn't know that about the Euro.

I didn't know that about the Euro.


I made a mistake there.

DVD's started becoming huge in 1999. Lots of DVD commercials too.


I remember a lot of DVD players being $300+ at the time, even $500 or better.

I remember a lot of DVD players being $300+ at the time, even $500 or better.


Now you can get them off from a flea market or estate sale for a twentieth of that cost.

I've never really thought about whether it's more 90s or 2000s. It definitely had the more laid back, peacetime feel of the 90s in contrast to the uneasy and militaristic post-9/11 feel of the early 2000s. But it was also definitely the first year of mainly millennial cultural influence, which I noticed at the time but couldn't describe, aside from saying that trends started to focus on people considerably younger than me. In 1998 I was still with the times for the most part. In 1999 I was already becoming nostalgic, though I kept up with a lot of popular culture and had lots of fun for years to come. The shift was quite noticeable in 1999.

Just saying it was culturally more 2000s and politically more 90s, and then describing the cultural side in more detail, doesn't settle it as a more 2000s year because the feel of the 90s was a lot different from the 2000s. Again, it was a much more laid back, prosperous peacetime era, which I don't think the U.S. has experienced since 2001. That's a big difference.

One thing I wonder: if 1998 was the last year of clear Gen X cultural dominance, which started in the early 90s with the grunge explosion, does this mean Gen X cultural dominance only lasted about seven or eight years? 80s culture seems more boomer or boomer/X cusp in terms of TV and even music, so I wouldn't consider Gen X the largest influence until about 1992.

I've never really thought about whether it's more 90s or 2000s. It definitely had the more laid back, peacetime feel of the 90s in contrast to the uneasy and militaristic post-9/11 feel of the early 2000s. But it was also definitely the first year of mainly millennial cultural influence, which I noticed at the time but couldn't describe, aside from saying that trends started to focus on people considerably younger than me. In 1998 I was still with the times for the most part. In 1999 I was already becoming nostalgic, though I kept up with a lot of popular culture and had lots of fun for years to come. The shift was quite noticeable in 1999.

Just saying it was culturally more 2000s and politically more 90s, and then describing the cultural side in more detail, doesn't settle it as a more 2000s year because the feel of the 90s was a lot different from the 2000s. Again, it was a much more laid back, prosperous peacetime era, which I don't think the U.S. has experienced since 2001. That's a big difference.

One thing I wonder: if 1998 was the last year of clear Gen X cultural dominance, which started in the early 90s with the grunge explosion, does this mean Gen X cultural dominance only lasted about seven or eight years? 80s culture seems more boomer or boomer/X cusp in terms of TV and even music, so I wouldn't consider Gen X the largest influence until about 1992.

Interesting post. I feel that 1999 was more similar to 2001 (the year up until 9/11) than 1997.

Interesting lost. I feel that 1999 was more similar to 2001 (the year up until 9/11) than 1997.


I agree that 1999 until 9/11/2001 is its own era and can't say whether it's more 90s or 2000s. It's its own animal.

I agree that 1999 until 9/11/2001 is its own era and can't say whether it's more 90s or 2000s. It's its own animal.

I made a slight typo. I meant "Interesting POST" not "lost'...:D ;). However, yeah...1999 is sort of a unique year

I've never really thought about whether it's more 90s or 2000s. It definitely had the more laid back, peacetime feel of the 90s in contrast to the uneasy and militaristic post-9/11 feel of the early 2000s. But it was also definitely the first year of mainly millennial cultural influence, which I noticed at the time but couldn't describe, aside from saying that trends started to focus on people considerably younger than me. In 1998 I was still with the times for the most part. In 1999 I was already becoming nostalgic, though I kept up with a lot of popular culture and had lots of fun for years to come. The shift was quite noticeable in 1999.

Just saying it was culturally more 2000s and politically more 90s, and then describing the cultural side in more detail, doesn't settle it as a more 2000s year because the feel of the 90s was a lot different from the 2000s. Again, it was a much more laid back, prosperous peacetime era, which I don't think the U.S. has experienced since 2001. That's a big difference.

One thing I wonder: if 1998 was the last year of clear Gen X cultural dominance, which started in the early 90s with the grunge explosion, does this mean Gen X cultural dominance only lasted about seven or eight years? 80s culture seems more boomer or boomer/X cusp in terms of TV and even music, so I wouldn't consider Gen X the largest influence until about 1992.


I did seem to also notice more 80's nostalgia in 1999 too (70's nostalgia was already past its prime).

I did seem to also notice more 80's nostalgia in 1999 too (70's nostalgia was already past its prime).

But That '70s Show came out in August 1998 and would air until May 2006.

I did seem to also notice more 80's nostalgia in 1999 too (70's nostalgia was already past its prime).


70s nostalgia was still around for the most part in the late 90s.

One thing I wonder: if 1998 was the last year of clear Gen X cultural dominance, which started in the early 90s with the grunge explosion, does this mean Gen X cultural dominance only lasted about seven or eight years? 80s culture seems more boomer or boomer/X cusp in terms of TV and even music, so I wouldn't consider Gen X the largest influence until about 1992.


I think there were a lot of elements of Mid-Late 80s popular culture which were targeted at Gen X, such as glam metal and the rise of hip-hop. However, one key difference between the Gen X culture of the Mid-Late 80s and the Gen X culture of the Early-Mid 90s, is the important figures of each time period. In terms of music, most of the people who were releasing material in the Mid-Late 80s, such as Michael Jackson, Phil Collins and Madonna, were born in the 50s or Early 60s, meaning that they are Baby Boomers (or Gen Jones). A lot of the material was aimed at Gen X, but it wasn't being produced by members of the generation, which may explain why a large proportion of pop culture in this period still has a Baby Boomer feel to it.

The emergence of Grunge into the mainstream in 1991 really spearheaded the change in demographics. For the first time, popular culture was not only targeted at Gen X, but it was also predominantly produced by members of Generation X. For instance, Kurt Cobain, Billy Corgan and Noel Gallagher were all born in 1967. Personally, I would say that 1992-1996 was when Gen X culture was at it's peak, because the first signs of Millennial culture appeared in 1997 and by 1998, popular culture leaned more towards the Millennials.

I think there were a lot of elements of Mid-Late 80s popular culture which were targeted at Gen X, such as glam metal and the rise of hip-hop. However, one key difference between the Gen X culture of the Mid-Late 80s and the Gen X culture of the Early-Mid 90s, is the important figures of each time period. In terms of music, most of the people who were releasing material in the Mid-Late 80s, such as Michael Jackson, Phil Collins and Madonna, were born in the 50s or Early 60s, meaning that they are Baby Boomers (or Gen Jones). A lot of the material was aimed at Gen X, but it wasn't being produced by members of the generation, which may explain why a large proportion of pop culture in this period still has a Baby Boomer feel to it.

The emergence of Grunge into the mainstream in 1991 really spearheaded the change in demographics. For the first time, popular culture was not only targeted at Gen X, but it was also predominantly produced by members of Generation X. For instance, Kurt Cobain, Billy Corgan and Noel Gallagher were all born in 1967. Personally, I would say that 1992-1996 was when Gen X culture was at it's peak, because the first signs of Millennial culture appeared in 1997 and by 1998, popular culture leaned more towards the Millennials.


There are actually a lot of First wave Gen Xers who vastly prefer the 80s culture to the 90s culture. Especially ones born in the 60s.

There are actually a lot of First wave Gen Xers who vastly prefer the 80s culture to the 90s culture. Especially ones born in the 60s.


That's interesting, because my Dad (who was born in 1967) isn't too bothered about 80s culture and much prefers the culture of the 90s. I guess it all comes down to individual taste.

I think there were a lot of elements of Mid-Late 80s popular culture which were targeted at Gen X, such as glam metal and the rise of hip-hop. However, one key difference between the Gen X culture of the Mid-Late 80s and the Gen X culture of the Early-Mid 90s, is the important figures of each time period. In terms of music, most of the people who were releasing material in the Mid-Late 80s, such as Michael Jackson, Phil Collins and Madonna, were born in the 50s or Early 60s, meaning that they are Baby Boomers (or Gen Jones). A lot of the material was aimed at Gen X, but it wasn't being produced by members of the generation, which may explain why a large proportion of pop culture in this period still has a Baby Boomer feel to it.

The emergence of Grunge into the mainstream in 1991 really spearheaded the change in demographics. For the first time, popular culture was not only targeted at Gen X, but it was also predominantly produced by members of Generation X. For instance, Kurt Cobain, Billy Corgan and Noel Gallagher were all born in 1967. Personally, I would say that 1992-1996 was when Gen X culture was at it's peak, because the first signs of Millennial culture appeared in 1997 and by 1998, popular culture leaned more towards the Millennials.


You forgot one more guy: Layne Staley

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That's interesting, because my Dad (who was born in 1967) isn't too bothered about 80s culture and much prefers the culture of the 90s. I guess it all comes down to individual taste.

My mother was born in 1963 and slightly prefers the 1980s over the 1990s (but she likes both decades).


You forgot one more guy: Layne Staley

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RIP Layne Staley.

My mother was born in 1963 and slightly prefers the 1980s over the 1990s (but she likes both decades).
RIP Layne Staley.


My dad was born in 62 and is a firm 70s person from the TV to the music and even recalls a lot of the 60s music and considers it his own. He considers himself a pure Boomer.

My dad was born in 62 and is a firm 70s person from the TV to the music and even recalls a lot of the 60s music and considers it his own. He considers himself a pure Boomer.

My mom also loves '70s music but the '80s are her favorite decade of music.

For my mother, her musical rank by decade is this....
1) 1980s
2) 1990s
3) 1970s
4) 2000s
and then no other decade....;D.

I think there were a lot of elements of Mid-Late 80s popular culture which were targeted at Gen X, such as glam metal and the rise of hip-hop. However, one key difference between the Gen X culture of the Mid-Late 80s and the Gen X culture of the Early-Mid 90s, is the important figures of each time period. In terms of music, most of the people who were releasing material in the Mid-Late 80s, such as Michael Jackson, Phil Collins and Madonna, were born in the 50s or Early 60s, meaning that they are Baby Boomers (or Gen Jones). A lot of the material was aimed at Gen X, but it wasn't being produced by members of the generation, which may explain why a large proportion of pop culture in this period still has a Baby Boomer feel to it.

The emergence of Grunge into the mainstream in 1991 really spearheaded the change in demographics. For the first time, popular culture was not only targeted at Gen X, but it was also predominantly produced by members of Generation X. For instance, Kurt Cobain, Billy Corgan and Noel Gallagher were all born in 1967. Personally, I would say that 1992-1996 was when Gen X culture was at it's peak, because the first signs of Millennial culture appeared in 1997 and by 1998, popular culture leaned more towards the Millennials.


Yeah, it wasn't until the early 90s that there was a lot of music for X'ers by X'ers in the mainstream.

Yeah, it wasn't until the early 90s that there was a lot of music for X'ers by X'ers in the mainstream.

Sometimes, I wish I was a Gen Xer (born in either 1970, 1971 or 1972).

1999 didn't feel very 90's at all. You look at 1989 and that's still a very 80's year and, while some items of the 90's had started to pop up, it was a year that still strongly contributed to the identity and culture of it's own decade. 1999 was leading towards the next decade and contributing to build that identity more than anything else.

While 1999 seems to have both cultures, I would say it's more of the former.

*It was the last year N64 made more games. By 2000, the releases were under 20-30.
*Internet usage was about 30-40%
*Despite CDs being already common long before, cassettes were still another option.
*The rage of the new millennium
*Lucky's supermarket (or whatever it was called in other states)
*Discovery Zone
*The Surplus

While 1999 seems to have both cultures, I would say it's more of the former.

*It was the last year N64 made more games. By 2000, the releases were under 20-30.
*Internet usage was about 30-40%
*Despite CDs being already common long before, cassettes were still another option.
*The rage of the new millennium
*Lucky's supermarket (or whatever it was called in other states)
*Discovery Zone
*The Surplus


I wouldn't really add something that existed for only parts of the year.

Stuff that made it more 90's
*Clinton was still the president.
*Windows 95 and Windows 98 were examples of the most popular forms of computer usage.
*The last several classic 90's shows were still on air (Beverly Hills 90210, Frasier, Boy Meets World, Diagnosis Murder, etc)
*Dot Com Bubble still existed.
*Last year before reality TV exploded.
*Walkmans were still king over iPods (not even existing yet)
*9/11 and Iraq both didn't happen yet.

Stuff that made it more 2000's
*Spongebob, Family Guy, The Sopranos, and Who Wants to be a Millionaire all debuted that year.
*South Park starts to gain more popularity (it also did by late '98)
*The Columbine Shooting escalates the fear of schoolyard violence and tightens zero-tolerance policies at school grounds.
*Britney, Christina Aguilera, and Jessica Simpson were relevant and popular that year.
*Broadband, though not popular at the time, gets introduced.
*First full year where Millennials truly had a profound impact on pop culture.
*Music probably started to get targeted towards younger audiences.

Verdict: Undecided


Another thing I forgot - Food chains changing their logos to their modern ones, specifically BK and Pizza Hut.

I think there were a lot of elements of Mid-Late 80s popular culture which were targeted at Gen X, such as glam metal and the rise of hip-hop. However, one key difference between the Gen X culture of the Mid-Late 80s and the Gen X culture of the Early-Mid 90s, is the important figures of each time period. In terms of music, most of the people who were releasing material in the Mid-Late 80s, such as Michael Jackson, Phil Collins and Madonna, were born in the 50s or Early 60s, meaning that they are Baby Boomers (or Gen Jones). A lot of the material was aimed at Gen X, but it wasn't being produced by members of the generation, which may explain why a large proportion of pop culture in this period still has a Baby Boomer feel to it.

The emergence of Grunge into the mainstream in 1991 really spearheaded the change in demographics. For the first time, popular culture was not only targeted at Gen X, but it was also predominantly produced by members of Generation X. For instance, Kurt Cobain, Billy Corgan and Noel Gallagher were all born in 1967. Personally, I would say that 1992-1996 was when Gen X culture was at it's peak, because the first signs of Millennial culture appeared in 1997 and by 1998, popular culture leaned more towards the Millennials.


A lot of people that were involved in grunge seem to have a lot of 1964 borns too. There's probably more 1964 borns that made grunge than 1967 borns, and this is not all of them, and if you include every single person that made grunge material, the amount of Boomers and Gen X that made it seem to be about the same.

Chris Cornell (Soundgarden)
Scott Mercado (Candlebox)
Eddie Vedder (Soundgarden)
King Coffey (Butthole Surfers)
Buzz Osborne (Melvins)
Mark Lanegan (Screaming Trees)
Courtney Love (Hole)
Jimmy Chamberlin (The Smashing Pumpkins)

Neither; the Y2K era was culturally distinct from both 90s and 00s zeitgeists.

The year 1999 certainly looks "00s" when compared to 1996, but conversely 1999 looks quite a bit more 90s than 00s when compared to true 00s years like 2004-06.

Now that the 00s are firmly in the rear view mirror, 1999 looks very 90s to me, although I'm not willing to say that it's more like one decade than the other.

It was like 40 to 45% 90's to me!  :P

It was like 40 to 45% 90's to me!  :P

Me too.

Honestly, the year wasn't very 2000s, but the year was still modern compared to the 90s.

Reasons why 1999 was more '00s:
* The Sopranos, Spongebob, and Family Guy all premiered at the same year. All of those shows were well known throughout the 2000s.
* Prevue Guide was changed as the TV Guide Channel on February 1, 1999, which stayed that way until it was the Pop Network in 2015.
* Jon Stewart debuts as the host of The Daily Show. He was the host until 2015, when he was replaced with Trevor Noah.
* In late 1999, PTV was replaced with PBS Kids, which is widely popular towards PBS stations to this day. Although, their 1999 bumpers were changed in 2013.
* It was the first year after Seinfeld ended, which was the most notable show in the 90s.
* Netscape already published their Mozilla code to other browser developers.
* Gen Y culture started to rise up against Gen Xers.

Reasons why 1999 could be more 90s:
* Bill Clinton was still the president of the U.S.
* Everyone either used Windows 95/98, Mac OS 8/9, or early versions of Linux with their computers.
* AOL was still dominant throughout the year, including the dot-com bubble.


More 90s:

* Post-Cold War, pre-9/11 world

That basic factual reality should carry more weight than, say, what 1999 TV shows continued in popularity during the 00s decade.

* Post-Cold War, pre-9/11 world .

That can also be said about the year 2000.

That can also be said about the year 2000.


The year 2000 was pretty 90s too. In fact, I'd argue that 2000 was more 90s than 1990 itself... yeah, I said it.

1999/2000 were nearly identical years, and formed the core of the entire millennium zeitgeist (1996-2003).

The year 2000 was pretty 90s too. In fact, I'd argue that 2000 was more 90s than 1990 itself... yeah, I said it.

1999/2000 were nearly identical years, and formed the core of the entire millennium zeitgeist (1996-2003).

I mean....ugh. 1999 definitely wasn't core '90s but was still "more '90s" than 1999....so I guess 2000 was "more '90s" than 1990.

When people think of "the 90s," 1990 is probably the last year that comes to mind. Why? Because most of the things that defined the 90s (Bill Clinton, grunge music, post-Soviet, Internet, etc.) weren't around yet in 1990. It was basically a continuation of 1989, but with the Persian Gulf War, Mariah Carey, and a few popular 90s shows like 90210 and Fresh Prince making their debut.

When people think of "the 90s," 1990 is probably the last year that comes to mind. Why? Because most of the things that defined the 90s (Bill Clinton, grunge music, post-Soviet, Internet, etc.) weren't around yet in 1990. It was basically a continuation of 1989, but with the Persian Gulf War, Mariah Carey, and a few popular 90s shows like 90210 and Fresh Prince making their debut.

Yes, that is true.

I think 1992 was the real transition year from the cultural '80s to the '90s.  1990 was very '80s.  1991 was still predominantly '80s, though some 90sish still was starting to trickle in.  1992 was the first year where the '90s really started to arrive in force.  In 1993, the transition was complete.

I think 1992 was the real transition year from the cultural '80s to the '90s.  1990 was very '80s.  1991 was still predominantly '80s, though some 90sish still was starting to trickle in.  1992 was the first year where the '90s really started to arrive in force.  In 1993, the transition was complete.

1992 was still pretty late 80s....I should add. Not even for most of 1993 was the transition complete....it took until about September of '93 for the '90s to form it's own identity.

1992 was still pretty late 80s....I should add. Not even for most of 1993 was the transition complete....it took until about September of '93 for the '90s to form it's own identity.


1991-1992 are still very 90's but with a little 80's residue left over.

1991-1992 are still very 90's but with a little 80's residue left over.

I wouldn't say very '90s but to each his own. To me it took Bill Clinton in office a few months for the 1990s to fully come into effect and not be the "late '80s 2.0" (1990-mid 1993)

I wouldn't say very '90s but to each his own. To me it took Bill Clinton in office a few months for the 1990s to fully come into effect and not be the "late '80s 2.0" (1990-mid 1993)


Fair enough. I'd argue that by 1992, at least, with the cold war finally being over and the influence of things like grunge plus the earth tone revivals had become significant enough to consider it a new decade. New styles were taking over but you still had a bit of the 80's left.

Fair enough. I'd argue that by 1992, at least, with the cold war finally being over and the influence of things like grunge plus the earth tone revivals had become significant enough to consider it a new decade. New styles were taking over but you still had a bit of the 80's left.

Yeah, that's fair but either way....I still like the early '90s 8).

Yeah, that's fair but either way....I still like the early '90s 8).


Oh yeah! Have you seen the movie Encino Man? It totally captures that early 90's feel. 8)

Oh yeah! Have you seen the movie Encino Man? It totally captures that early 90's feel. 8)

No, I haven't seen Encino Man but I just looked at some pics and I'll probably check it out.

1991-1992 are still very 90's but with a little 80's residue left over.


1991 was not a very '90s year.  You did have '90s stuff coming in, but the predominant culture was still quite '80s.  1992 was the transition year.

The '90s is one of the few decades (the '60s being another one) where when people say "early '90s" they get a completely different image than if you say "the '90s."

There were some early '90s fads that were unique to that time period and weren't '80s nor were they still cool in the Clinton '90s.  For the most part though, those things were evolved out of the '80s culture.

1991 was not a very '90s year.  You did have '90s stuff coming in, but the predominant culture was still quite '80s.  1992 was the transition year.

The '90s is one of the few decades (the '60s being another one) where when people say "early '90s" they get a completely different image than if you say "the '90s."

There were some early '90s fads that were unique to that time period and weren't '80s nor were they still cool in the Clinton '90s.  For the most part though, those things were evolved out of the '80s culture.

Yes absolutely....though I would say that 1993 was the transition year.

No, I haven't seen Encino Man but I just looked at some pics and I'll probably check it out.


I think you'll love it. 8)


1991 was not a very '90s year.  You did have '90s stuff coming in, but the predominant culture was still quite '80s.  1992 was the transition year.

The '90s is one of the few decades (the '60s being another one) where when people say "early '90s" they get a completely different image than if you say "the '90s."

There were some early '90s fads that were unique to that time period and weren't '80s nor were they still cool in the Clinton '90s.  For the most part though, those things were evolved out of the '80s culture.


Expect it was. The end of the cold war and grunge are a couple of really big things that come to my mind when I think 90's. Yes, some of the trends happening were still pretty 80's and others were exclusive to the early 90's time period but you can't deny the incoming definitive 90's culture that was happening.

I think you'll love it. 8)

I probably will. Thanks for the movie suggestion :).

I probably will. Thanks for the movie suggestion :).


No prob. ;) If you like that one check out Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure if you haven't already. One of the best movies of '89! I saw it with my brother when it came out. 8)

Expect it was. The end of the cold war and grunge are a couple of really big things that come to my mind when I think 90's. Yes, some of the trends happening were still pretty 80's and others were exclusive to the early 90's time period but you can't deny the incoming definitive 90's culture that was happening.


You tend to focus most on the early '90s in terms of what the quintessential '90s were.  I kind of do the same thing with the late' 00s, since that was my favorite part of the decade.  When you look at the big picture, 1990 and 1991 had more in common with the '80s.  1992 was a mix and 1993 was mostly '90s.  By late 1993, the '80s were completely gone.

No prob. ;) If you like that one check out Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure if you haven't already. One of the best movies of '89! I saw it with my brother when it came out. 8)

Awesome, you're lucky...you were like 7, right? I've definitely heard of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure but never watched it.

You tend to focus most on the early '90s in terms of what the quintessential '90s were.  I kind of do the same thing with the late' 00s, since that was my favorite part of the decade.  When you look at the big picture, 1990 and 1991 had more in common with the '80s.  1992 was a mix and 1993 was mostly '90s.  By late 1993, the '80s were completely gone.

1992 wasn't a mix for me. 1993 was the year where I see a mix and then yes by late 1993 the late '80s influences were finito.

You tend to focus most on the early '90s in terms of what the quintessential '90s were.  I kind of do the same thing with the late' 00s, since that was my favorite part of the decade.  When you look at the big picture, 1990 and 1991 had more in common with the '80s.  1992 was a mix and 1993 was mostly '90s.  By late 1993, the '80s were completely gone.


I think roughly 1993-1995 are the quintessential 90's, if I had to boil it down to a couple of years. Problem with the 90's is once they became definitive, the exciting factor fizzled out. 1996 is often seen as some "big year" by many on the net but in reality, it was a very bland year that was exciting as the years before or after it.

The early 90's are my favorite part, though, you're right about that. I can see 1990 was still being pretty 80's with glam metal, arena rock and new wave still being the big things but 1991 was the start of something new.


Awesome, you're lucky...you were like 7, right? I've definitely heard of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure but never watched it.


It came out pretty early in the year so I was around 6 when I saw it. I was really young when my family started taking me to the theater. I used to go with my brother all the time to see different films and later on with my sister when she got old enough. You should check that one out, too. It's got that classic late 80's feel to it! 8)

It came out pretty early in the year so I was around 6 when I saw it. I was really young when my family started taking me to the theater. I used to go with my brother all the time to see different films and later on with my sister when she got old enough. You should check that one out, too. It's got that classic late 80's feel to it! 8)

I also check it out...8).

I also check it out...8).


You won't be disappointed! 8)

I think roughly 1993-1995 are the quintessential 90's, if I had to boil it down to a couple of years. Problem with the 90's is once they became definitive, the exciting factor fizzled out. 1996 is often seen as some "big year" by many on the net but in reality, it was a very bland year that was exciting as the years before or after it.


It might depend on how old you were in '96 and what your life circumstances were like.  I liked '96 better than '95, but not as well as 1993-4 or the late '90s.  I kind of feel the same way about '06 as you do about '96.  It wasn't terrible but it was kind of bland and it was mostly everything established during 2004-05 playing itself out before things got exciting again in '07.

You won't be disappointed! 8)

I hope so 8).


1999 was still a 90s year. Any year that has Bill Clinton as president, an underlying sense of optimism for the future, and a booming economy can't be 00s.

The 90s were shot in September 2001, bled out 99% in 2003/2004, and finished bleeding out the remaining 1% in late 2006.

Besides Bill Clinton, pre-9/11, the economy and some tech.....how was 1999 "still a 90s year"?

Besides Bill Clinton, pre-9/11, the economy and some tech.....how was 1999 "still a 90s year"?

The style of the movies, TV shows, fashion, etc. in 1999 was very obviously 90s. Just watch this video and tell me it doesn't feel 90s.

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1999 was still a 90s year. Any year that has Bill Clinton as president, an underlying sense of optimism for the future, and a booming economy can't be 00s.

The 90s were shot in September 2001, bled out 99% in 2003/2004, and finished bleeding out the remaining 1% in late 2006.


I think all three apply to 2000 as well.  The economy wasn't quite as good in 2000 as it was in 1999, but it was still a very good year for most people.  Our first step away from the late '90s was George W. Bush's inauguration in 2001 and the subsequent recession we went into that spring.  The final nail in the coffin was 9/11.  Some residual '90s holdovers continued to die off until around 2006.

The style of the movies, TV shows, fashion, etc. in 1999 was very obviously 90s. Just watch this video and tell me it doesn't feel 90s.

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Fashion? TV shows? Movies?......that's a negative. Besides 1990, 1999 is the least '90s year :o.

It might depend on how old you were in '96 and what your life circumstances were like.  I liked '96 better than '95, but not as well as 1993-4 or the late '90s.  I kind of feel the same way about '06 as you do about '96.  It wasn't terrible but it was kind of bland and it was mostly everything established during 2004-05 playing itself out before things got exciting again in '07.


1996 was my freshman year of high school. Really, I have a lot of good memories from that year. I started going to shows (before that, in 1995, I saw Green Day and The Offspring playing big venues but now I started seeing bands like Pennywise, NoFX and numerous smaller underground bands in clubs) and went to my first Warped Tour. It's just when I look back at the movies, television and albums released that year, I can't help but feel that things kinda got stale and weren't as exciting as 1994 and 1995. 

1996 was my freshman year of high school. Really, I have a lot of good memories from that year. I started going to shows (before that, in 1995, I saw Green Day and The Offspring playing big venues but now I started seeing bands like Pennywise, NoFX and numerous smaller underground bands in clubs) and went to my first Warped Tour. It's just when I look back at the movies, television and albums released that year, I can't help but feel that things kinda got stale and weren't as exciting as 1994 and 1995.


I was in 5th grade in 1996.  I was in my second year of college though in 2006.  I think '06 was a great year for movies but the music that year was missing something compared to 2004-05 and 2007.  So I definitely understand how you feel about 1996, even though that wasn't my personal experience during it.

Everyone look at this HD...yes HD video of New York City in 1993
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You could still see the late 80s influence but it was fading. It's also weird for me a person born 6 years after this and always seeing the 1990s and decades before it in 480p to now see it in crystal clear HD :o.

1999 was still a 90s year. Any year that has Bill Clinton as president, an underlying sense of optimism for the future, and a booming economy can't be 00s.

The 90s were shot in September 2001, bled out 99% in 2003/2004, and finished bleeding out the remaining 1% in late 2006.

You think 90s culutre lasted THAT long bro... ???  If not for Clinton being in office and 9/11 not happening, this year would be the first cultural 00s year. But it's a millennium era year instead.
I still believe 1998 was the end of the 90s era. For many reasons. I already know Slim95 agrees with me.

You think 90s culutre lasted THAT long bro... ???  If not for Clinton being in office and 9/11 not happening, this year would be the first cultural 00s year. But it's a millennium era year instead.
I still believe 1998 was the end of the 90s era. For many reasons. I already know Slim95 agrees with me.

I agree with you in bold. BTW, I've heard a lot about you Eric. Welcome back! :).

I agree with you in bold. BTW, I've heard a lot about you Eric. Welcome back! :) .

Nice to meet you too ReignMan.
I've gone back and read your past comments. It'll be GREAT to debate and discuss things with you! :)  And let me guess you were born in 1999? ::)

Nice to meet you too ReignMan.
I've gone back and read your past comments. It'll be GREAT to debate and discuss things with you! :)  And let me guess you were born in 1999? ::)

Yes, I was born in 1999 ;D. And let me guess you were born in 1995? ::)

Yes, I was born in 1999 ;D . And let me guess you were born in 1995? ::)

yup! ;) ;D

yup! ;) ;D

;D BTW, which month? (I heard you was born in late '95)

;D BTW, which month? (I heard you was born in late '95)

well... yeah October. ;D ;D ;D ;)

well... yeah October. ;D ;D ;D ;)

OK, gotcha ;) (I was born in July 1999).

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OK, gotcha ;) (I was born in July 1999).

Wow if that is true, then you would been the youngest people I went to HS with. Well... here in Missouri, our cut off is August-July, used to be September-August before 1991.

-Wow if that is true, then you would been the youngest people I went to HS with. Well... here in Missouri, our cut off is August-July, used to be September-August before 1991.

That's cool. The youngest people I'm in HS with are born in 2002 :( but I don't interact with Freshman, no way ;D.

That's cool. The youngest people I'm in HS with are born in 2002 :( but I don't interact with Freshman, no way ;D .

My senior year there were a ton of freshman on my chess team and the youngest there was born in April 1999. Him and my tennis teammate were the ONLY people that age I interacted with during my years there.  :o So I had a soft spot for them and treated (those that didn't annoy me ;D), considering how I was viewed and treated during my freshman year!  >:(

My senior year there were a ton of freshman on my chess team and the youngest there was born in April 1999. Him and my tennis teammate were the ONLY people that age I interacted with during my years there.  :o So I had a soft spot for them and treated (those that didn't annoy me ;D), considering how I was viewed and treated during my freshman year!  >:(

LOL, the Freshman at my school are like babies ;D...fresh faced, naive and for some...very annoying ;).

LOL, the Freshman at my school are like babies ;D...fresh faced, naive and for some...very annoying ;).


I talk with some of my freshmen at high school and they look like 6th graders.

LOL, the Freshman at my school are like babies ;D ...fresh faced, naive and for some...very annoying ;) .

Yup I've seen what they look like in my town around here. They just keep looking younger and younger as the years are going by.... :o :o :o
My freshman year, the senior chicks looked like GROWN  women and they were only 3, HELL 2 1/2 years older than I was. :D

I talk with some of my freshmen at high school and they look like 6th graders.

Damn, it's crazy but they change real quick.


Yup I've seen what they look like in my town around here. They just keep looking younger and younger as the years are going by.... :o :o :o
My freshman year, the senior chicks looked like GROWN  women and they were only 3, HELL 2 1/2 years older than I was. :D

Senior chicks are ALWAYS banging :D.

Damn, it's crazy but they change real quick.
Senior chicks are ALWAYS banging :D .

Yup. the 2011 and 2013 senior chicks were SWEET!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Yup. the 2011 and 2013 senior chicks were SWEET!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

LOL, funnily enough most senior girls in my HS are OK but some are definitely banging :D :D.

Damn, it's crazy but they change real quick.


Some even sound like they're still kids.


Senior chicks are ALWAYS banging :D.


True. Junior and Senior girls always look pretty.

Some even sound like they're still kids.

True. Junior and Senior girls always look pretty.

I sounded sort of sounded like a kid in 9th grade but that changed REAAAL quick.

I wonder how senior chicks in college look like? :D :D :D :D.

You think 90s culutre lasted THAT long bro... ???  If not for Clinton being in office and 9/11 not happening, this year would be the first cultural 00s year. But it's a millennium era year instead.
I still believe 1998 was the end of the 90s era. For many reasons. I already know Slim95 agrees with me.


I agree. I think 1997 and 1998 were the real late 90s era.

The end of 1998 through mid 2001 was an era of its own.

I agree. I think 1997 and 1998 were the real late 90s era.

The end of 1998 through mid 2001 was an era of its own.

Yeah, the Millennium/Y2K era and vibe.

I agree. I think 1997 and 1998 were the real late 90s era.

The end of 1998 through mid 2001 was an era of its own.

Yeah, the Millennium/Y2K era and vibe.
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Yup the Millennium era. The era of Y2K, American Pie, Brittney Spears, NSYNC, Matrix, Columbine, Ally McBeal, Buffy, latin pop craze, Eminem & DMX, etc.

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Yup the Millennium era. The era of Y2K, American Pie, Brittney Spears, NSYNC, Matrix, Columbine, Ally McBeal, Buffy, latin pop craze, Eminem & DMX, etc.

Ironically, my least favorite era in the past 20-30 years.

Yup. the 2011 and 2013 senior chicks were SWEET!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


I agree completely. But what about 2012 senior chicks?  ???

I agree completely. But what about 2012 senior chicks?  ???

and what about college senior chicks? I still need that answered.

I agree completely. But what about 2012 senior chicks?  ???

Well... lets just say they looked weirder and more ''rougher around the edges''
They weren't anywhere NEAR as pretty as the ones the graduated right before or right after sorry bruh. ;D ;D ;D

and what about college senior chicks? I still need that answered.


Nicccceeee. Very niccceee. 8)

Nicccceeee. Very niccceee. 8)

Yep. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

I agree completely. But what about 2012 senior chicks?  ???


Ahem ahem aren't you too old for this discussion?  :-X

Nicccceeee. Very niccceee. 8)


Yep. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Thank you both 8).

Ahem ahem aren't you too old for this discussion?  :-X


You are never too old for senior college chicks.  ;)

You are never too old for senior college chicks.  ;)


He was talking about senior high school. ;D

I'm just messin'

You are never too old for senior college chicks.  ;)


He is an alpha male for sure. He gets all of 'em.

He was talking about senior high school. ;D

I'm just messin'


lol.

Although senior high school and college chicks are both hot.


He is an alpha male for sure. He gets all of 'em.


Damn straight he does.

Although senior high school and college chicks are both hot.

That is VERY true :D :D :D.

Ahem ahem aren't you too old for this discussion?  :-X


Too old? I wasn't aware I could simultaneously be 23 in both 2012 and 2017.  ::)

Too old? I wasn't aware I could simultaneously be 23 in both 2012 and 2017.  ::)

I'm 17 and 9 months old, lol.

If Pitbull were to read this, he'd be laughing!

"All these little boyz talkin to talk about ladies
I say 'ha!' youz da suckaz who pay me
I be gettin all the women naked
You be sittin round da daycare
Mr. Worldwide! Ladies from the east and west
And when I leave the hotel room, they say pit youz da best"

Too old? I wasn't aware I could simultaneously be 23 in both 2012 and 2017.  ::)


Did you know it's illegal to have teenage nudes of yourself?  :o

I'm not sure at what point it becomes pervy for a guy to assess the looks of high school girls, but I'm pretty sure I'm past that age, so I'll just keep my mouth shut!

A (soon to be) 30-year-old guy ogling 16-year-olds is not cool! :-\\

I'm not sure at what point it becomes pervy for a guy to assess the looks of high school girls, but I'm pretty sure I'm past that age, so I'll just keep my mouth shut!

A (soon to be) 30-year-old guy ogling 16-year-olds is not cool! :-\\

True but we were also taking about college senior chicks (females ages 21-22). A 29/30 year old male liking on a 21/22 year old female is not weird.

1999 to 2003 is its own era.

1999 to 2001 is its own era.

Fixed for ya! ;)

Fixed for ya! ;)


No!! :D  :(

I'm not sure at what point it becomes pervy for a guy to assess the looks of high school girls, but I'm pretty sure I'm past that age, so I'll just keep my mouth shut!

A (soon to be) 30-year-old guy ogling 16-year-olds is not cool! :-\\
I will be honest with you. It really seems to be the norm because there are girls who enjoy having older men regardless of the latter being in college, post college 20s, 30s and so on.

1999 to 2001 is its own era.


I call them the very early 2000s (Millennium/y2k era).

I call them the very early 2000s (Millennium/y2k era).

Yup.

I call them the very early 2000s (Millennium/y2k era).


I simply call them as the pre-9/11 early 2000s, but the Y2K era seems more fitting.

1999 still felt more like the 90s to me than like the 2000s, but I think the Y2K era is its own entity.