I've said this before on the 00s forum, but it seems that people refer to early 90s things as being 90s things and not 80s things, yet early 2000s things are somehow "90s" things and not 00s things.

Everyone says Yu-Gi-Oh is a 90s phenomena. Everyone says Even Stevens is a 90s show. Everyone says Pepsi Blue is a 90s drink. Everyone says Mean Girls is a 90s movie. Everyone says Majora's Mask is a 90s game. Everyone says Deus Ex is a 90s game. Everyone says The Weekenders is a 90s cartoon. Everyone says Between the Lions is a 90s educational program. Everyone says Courage the cowardly Dog is a 90s cartoon. Everyone says Aaron Carter is a 90s icon. Some people even say freaking VANILLA COKE is a 90s drink!
http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/09/best-drinks-of-the-90s/vanilla-coke

But nobody says Pogs are an 80s phenomena. Nobody says Legends of the Hidden Temple is an 80s game show. Nobody says Sega Genesis is an 80s game console. Nobody says Sonic the Hedgehog is an 80s character. Nobody says the Simpsons is an 80s show. Nobody says Power Rangers is an 80s show. Nobody says Nirvana is an 80s band. Nobody says Pauly Shore is an 80s icon. Nobody says Aladdin is an 80s movie. etc.

Do you feel like these early 90s things could be mistaken for being "80s" at all?

Pogs are from the 80's
Nirvana is an 80's band
Sega Genesis is 80's
Sonic the Hedgehog is an 80's character
SNES is 80's
Aladdin is an 80's movie
Legends of the Hidden Temple is an 80's game show
Simpsons is an 80's show

Now you can't say nobody. :P

Genesis came out 1989.

Genesis came out 1989.


1988 in Japan!

1988 in Japan!


Very 80s! :D

Pogs are from the 80's
Nirvana is an 80's band
Sega Genesis is 80's
Sonic the Hedgehog is an 80's character
SNES is 80's
Aladdin is an 80's movie
Legends of the Hidden Temple is an 80's game show
Simpsons is an 80's show

Now you can't say nobody. :P


All of that sh*t was really 90s. All of them. lol  ;D

All of that sh*t was really 90s. All of them. lol  ;D


But Zelek keeps saying "Nobody calls any of that stuff 80's." I just did so he can't say that anymore!

On the flip side: Early 90s Guy thinks Beverly Hills 90210 is a 00's show.

Genesis came out 1989.

True, but it was most popular and relevant in the early 90s.

But Zelek keeps saying "Nobody calls any of that stuff 80's." I just did so he can't say that anymore!

On the flip side: Early 90s Guy thinks Beverly Hills 90210 is a 00's show.


Everybody calls all of that stuff OP mentioned as 90s stuff. Also, typical Early90sGuy.

Everybody calls all of that stuff OP mentioned as 90s stuff. Also, typical Early90sGuy.


But now Zelek knows at least one guy who thinks all of those things are 80's things.

Yes, very typical Early 90s Guy. ;D

Everybody calls all of that stuff OP mentioned as 90s stuff. Also, typical Early90sGuy.


If Beverly Hills 90210 were '90s, why didn't it stay in the 1990s?

If Beverly Hills 90210 were '90s, why didn't it stay in the 1990s?


https://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.jpg

If Beverly Hills 90210 were '90s, why didn't it stay in the 1990s?


Because they didn't want to cancel the show earlier, when they had a huge fanbase. It's not like it was the core 2000s once Beverly Hills, 90210 ended. It ended five months just after Y2K arrived.

Because they didn't want to cancel the show earlier, when they had a huge fanbase. It's not like it was the core 2000s once Beverly Hills, 90210 ended. It ended five months just after Y2K arrived.


Most '90s shows started in the '80s. That's why I cannot see Beverly Hills 90210 as a '90s program. The concept of the program was brand new at the time. 90210 was far more of an intense teen drama show than both Degrassi High and Degrassi Junior High put together.

I've said this before on the 00s forum, but it seems that people refer to early 90s things as being 90s things and not 80s things, yet early 2000s things are somehow "90s" things and not 00s things.

Everyone says Yu-Gi-Oh is a 90s phenomena. Everyone says Even Stevens is a 90s show. Everyone says Pepsi Blue is a 90s drink. Everyone says Mean Girls is a 90s movie. Everyone says Majora's Mask is a 90s game. Everyone says Deus Ex is a 90s game. Everyone says The Weekenders is a 90s cartoon. Everyone says Courage the cowardly Dog is a 90s cartoon. Everyone says Aaron Carter is a 90s icon. Some people even say freaking VANILLA COKE is a 90s drink!
http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/09/best-drinks-of-the-90s/vanilla-coke

But nobody says Pogs are an 80s phenomena. Nobody says Legends of the Hidden Temple is an 80s game show. Nobody says Sega Genesis is an 80s game console. Nobody says Sonic the Hedgehog is an 80s character. Nobody says the Simpsons is an 80s show. Nobody says Power Rangers is an 80s show. Nobody says Nirvana is an 80s band. Nobody says Pauly Shore is an 80s icon. Nobody says Aladdin is an 80s movie. etc.

Do you feel like these early 90s things could be mistaken for being "80s" at all?


Pogs and Sonic  are all mid '90s phenomenas, not early '90s. Legends of the Hidden Temple was a game show that first aired in the mid '90s. Power Rangers were at their height from late '93 to the summer of 1996 or so. The Simpsons were most popular in 1990. As for Sega and Grohlvana, both were '90s. Paula Shore is '90s icon. So, I do not see how anyone can mistake them for being '80s at all.

https://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.jpg


;D

Most '90s shows started in the '80s. That's why I cannot see Beverly Hills 90210 as a '90s program. The concept of the program was brand new at the time. 90210 was far more of an intense teen drama show than both Degrassi High and Degrassi Junior High put together.


Really dude? It's more intense than Degrassi High and Degrassi Junior High? Have you even seen both of those shows?

Really dude? It's more intense than Degrassi High and Degrassi Junior High? Have you even seen both of those shows?


Have you seen the 90210 episode, "The Next Fifty Years"?

I know this game is terrible, but I would say Wall Street Kid for NES is a good example of the 80s-90s crossover, as it was made in 1989 but delayed in America until June 1990.

Is this an 80s businessman, or a 90s businessman? ;D

http://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/b/be/WallStreetKidBest.gif

http://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/b/be/WallStreetKidBest.gif


My wife says the same thing to me! ;)

His name must be Jordan, too.

Have you seen the 90210 episode, "The Next Fifty Years"?


Yes, and it looks very early 90s. Did I mention that the show premiered in the early 90s?

My wife says the same thing to me! ;)

His name must be Jordan, too.

Speaking of NES, are you a bit disappointed Internet people don't seem to care about the early-mid 90s anymore and just focus on the Y2K era?

In 2008, the consoles everyone was nostalgic for were NES, SNES, Genesis, Sega Saturn, etc. Now, as the Internet's userbase gets younger, most of them only focus on PS2, N64, PS1, Gamecube, original Xbox, etc., and the 8- and 16-bit eras seem to be fading in relevance. Soon enough, by 2020, people will get nostalgic for the Wii. :o

Don't get me wrong, the y2k era was great, but the early-mid 90s need some love too, y'know?

Yes, and it looks very early 90s. Did I mention that the show premiered in the early 90s?


The show still finished in the year 2000.

I know this game is terrible, but I would say Wall Street Kid for NES is a good example of the 80s-90s crossover, as it was made in 1989 but delayed in America until June 1990.

Is this an 80s businessman, or a 90s businessman? ;D

http://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/b/be/WallStreetKidBest.gif


A 1984-1990 businessman.  ;D

The show still finished in the year 2000.


But that doesn't mean it was a 2000s show.

Speaking of NES, are you a bit disappointed Internet people don't seem to care about the early-mid 90s anymore and just focus on the Y2K era?

In 2008, the consoles everyone was nostalgic for were NES, SNES, Genesis, Sega Saturn, etc. Now, as the Internet's userbase gets younger, most of them only focus on PS2, N64, PS1, Gamecube, original Xbox, etc., and the 8- and 16-bit eras seem to be fading in relevance. Soon enough, by 2020, people will get nostalgic for the Wii. :o

Don't get me wrong, the y2k era was great, but the early-mid 90s need some love too, y'know?


Kind of. Internet people are a bit on the stupid side, though. I'm kind of glad they don't ruin my nostalgia of the early 90's. As you know, these kids like to ruin everything they touch. One of these things being the 90's. Really, people usually throw in the mid 90's when talking about 1998-2002 but I don't hear much about 1990-1992.

Nobody should be nostalgic for the Saturn, though. If they actually grew up during those times then they'd realize it's a load of sh!t.

Speaking of NES, are you a bit disappointed Internet people don't seem to care about the early-mid 90s anymore and just focus on the Y2K era?

In 2008, the consoles everyone was nostalgic for were NES, SNES, Genesis, Sega Saturn, etc. Now, as the Internet's userbase gets younger, most of them only focus on PS2, N64, PS1, Gamecube, original Xbox, etc., and the 8- and 16-bit eras seem to be fading in relevance. Soon enough, by 2020, people will get nostalgic for the Wii. :o

Don't get me wrong, the y2k era was great, but the early-mid 90s need some love too, y'know?


Hmm maybe the forums you browse skew younger. Because the 5th Gen still gets a fair amount of dislike in my circles, while no one doubts the 4th Gen.

A 1984-1990 businessman.  ;D


Wouldn't you see businessmen like this in 1991 and 1992? I know I sure did.

Wouldn't you see businessmen like this in 1991 and 1992? I know I sure did.


Probably unemployed lol.

Probably unemployed lol.


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You made me spit out my drink. Thanks.

Wouldn't you see businessmen like this in 1991 and 1992? I know I sure did.


1991 was the year when yuppiedom died.

1991 was the year when yuppiedom died.


Who the hell are you?

1991 was the year when yuppiedom died. I don't remember any business men wearing suits like that.


I grew up in Silicon Valley and I'd see Yuppies like that in 1991 and 1992. None after that, though. 


Who the hell are you?


That's the Early 90s Guy. Who else would it be?

Who the hell are you?


What?

What?


Who the fudgeing sheesh are you? Early90sGuy what does that mean?

Who the fudgeing sheesh are you? Early90sGuy what does that mean?


I'm fascinated by most things early '90s. I have a hard time getting over them.  ;D

I'm fascinated by most things early '90s.


Dude, you forgot to put back your old signature! That'd be rad!

Who the hell are you?


Let me introduce you to TheEarly90sGuy! He's a fun dude to chat with, and he can teach you a lot of history about the early 90's pop culture, politics, and society back then. He'll give you great advice!

I've said this before on the 00s forum, but it seems that people refer to early 90s things as being 90s things and not 80s things, yet early 2000s things are somehow "90s" things and not 00s things.

Everyone says Yu-Gi-Oh is a 90s phenomena. Everyone says Even Stevens is a 90s show. Everyone says Pepsi Blue is a 90s drink. Everyone says Mean Girls is a 90s movie. Everyone says Majora's Mask is a 90s game. Everyone says Deus Ex is a 90s game. Everyone says The Weekenders is a 90s cartoon. Everyone says Courage the cowardly Dog is a 90s cartoon. Everyone says Aaron Carter is a 90s icon. Some people even say freaking VANILLA COKE is a 90s drink!
http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/09/best-drinks-of-the-90s/vanilla-coke

But nobody says Pogs are an 80s phenomena. Nobody says Legends of the Hidden Temple is an 80s game show. Nobody says Sega Genesis is an 80s game console. Nobody says Sonic the Hedgehog is an 80s character. Nobody says the Simpsons is an 80s show. Nobody says Power Rangers is an 80s show. Nobody says Nirvana is an 80s band. Nobody says Pauly Shore is an 80s icon. Nobody says Aladdin is an 80s movie. etc.

Do you feel like these early 90s things could be mistaken for being "80s" at all?

Majoras Mask did come out in 2000, but 2000 was exactly like 1999 was. So I can see why people would think that.

Most of the movies released in 1990 were filmed in 1989, and most of the popular music that year was recorded in 1989. So yeah a lot of 1990's culture was quite literally also 1980s culture.

It mainly depends on popularity to me. If something was created during say 1989, but released in 1990, and also got really popular in 1990 onward than its a 1990s thing to me. Best example is Tiny Toon Adventures. It was developed between 1987-1989, but released between 1990-1992 which is when it became popular. People see that as 1990s cartoon and not a 1980s cartoon. Before 1990 Tiny Toon Adventures didn't mean anything to anyone as most didn't even know anything about it until the start of the 1990s.

Another example is a game like Jet Set Radio which was released in 2000, but developed in 1999-early 2000. Everyone's experience with the game is within 2000 onward which makes it a 2000s game and not a 1990s game.

I base things on popularity/relevance to the general public to determine on what belongs in what time period.

Most of the movies released in 1990 were filmed in 1989, and most of the popular music that year was recorded in 1989. So yeah a lot of 1990's culture was quite literally also 1980s culture.


Most things made in the fall of 1989 were released at the start of 1990, also. The stuff made in the winter and spring seasons of 1990 were not in stores until the 1990 to 1991 school year.

It mainly depends on popularity to me. If something was created during say 1989, but released in 1990, and also got really popular in 1990 onward than its a 1990s thing to me. Best example is Tiny Toon Adventures. It was developed between 1987-1989, but released between 1990-1992 which is when it became popular. People see that as 1990s cartoon and not a 1980s cartoon. Before 1990 Tiny Toon Adventures didn't mean anything to anyone as most didn't even know anything about it until the start of the 1990s.

Another example is a game like Jet Set Radio which was released in 2000, but developed in 1999-early 2000. Everyone's experience with the game is within 2000 onward which makes it a 2000s game and not a 1990s game.

I base things on popularity/relevance to the general public to determine on what belongs in what time period.


I know people who think of Tiny Toon Adventures and Captain Planet and the Planteers as '80s cartoons. A lot of people think of the early '90s as the time when "the 80s were high on themselves", so even the new shows of that period are sometimes considered as '80s cartoons depending on the person you ask.

Legends of the Hidden Temple is an 80's game show

Funny thing is, the day after you posted that, they announced a TV movie based on this show. ;D

Older viewers will probably hate it and say it "ruined their childhood", while kids will eat it up because...let's face it, kids like anything, no matter how bad or good it is.

Let me introduce you to TheEarly90sGuy! He's a fun dude to chat with, and he can teach you a lot of history about the early 90's pop culture, politics, and society back then. He'll give you great advice!


He knows a lot of knowledge.

He knows a lot of stuff he claims is knowledge, but really isn't


This is true

People have a certain image in their head of each decade's culture and it seems like they usually focus on the tail end of it (which is why you hear things like "the 80s lasted until 1992!" or "the 90s didn't end until 2004!"). It annoys me because it misrepresents what each decade was actually like (i.e. older than people's perception of it, especially the 60s, 90s, and lately the 00s).

So to answer the question, if it's something that transcends both decades then I would consider it both... but not strictly an "80s thing" because that would misrepresent both the 80s and 90s.

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Funny thing is, the day after you posted that, they announced a TV movie based on this show. ;D

Older viewers will probably hate it and say it "ruined their childhood", while kids will eat it up because...let's face it, kids like anything, no matter how bad or good it is.


I hope it's chalk full of 80's references.

That is true. Kids like like the strangest things.

A VERY fun and funny old post!http://www.inthe00s.com/archive/inthe80s/smf/1118639000.shtml

A VERY fun and funny old post!http://www.inthe00s.com/archive/inthe80s/smf/1118639000.shtml


Wow... they really didn't like the 2000s back then. I mean, what the f*ck was their problem back then? Were they trying to have every year look like the 90s? Also, I went outside sometimes. It's just that I was more comfortable watching TV or playing with my computer.

Wow... they really didn't like the 2000s back then. I mean, what the f*ck was their problem back then? Were they trying to have every year look like the 90s? Also, I went outside sometimes. It's just that I was more comfortable watching TV or playing with my computer.


I hated the 2000's back then, too, aside from the first three years which you can't even call real 2000's years.

I hated the 2000's back then, too, aside from the first three years which you can't even call real 2000's years.


'Kay. We caught a million times that you hated the real 2000s, dude.

Wow... they really didn't like the 2000s back then. I mean, what the f*ck was their problem back then? Were they trying to have every year look like the 90s? Also, I went outside sometimes. It's just that I was more comfortable watching TV or playing with my computer.


Well, it's the same thing with you not liking the 2010s. :P

Well, it's the same thing with you not liking the 2010s. :P


Well... it's more pop-culture wise on why I hate the 2010s. It'll also be politically if Donald Trump wins the presidency this year.

Nowdays the 2000s seemed to have a bit more love. Mostly just because it isn't the modern/current era. And you know the rules around here.

"It it's modern then it sucks"

- Said everyone because of their weird mentality

Now it's the 2010s getting all the hate.

'Kay. We caught a million times that you hated the real 2000s, dude.


Yeah, but I want to make sure I get the point across.


Nowdays the 2000s seemed to have a bit more love. Mostly just because it isn't the modern/current era. And you know the rules around here.

"It it's modern then it sucks"

- Said everyone because of their weird mentality

Now it's the 2010s getting all the hate.


To be fair, I still give the 2000's a ton of hate. They're for the birds. What an awful, awful time. At least the 2010's just continue the sh!ttness, the real 2000's came after the great 2000, 2001 and 2002! How do you fall from grace that hard!?!?

Nowdays the 2000s seemed to have a bit more love. Mostly just because it isn't the modern/current era. And you know the rules around here.

"It it's modern then it sucks"

- Said everyone because of their weird mentality

Now it's the 2010s getting all the hate.


But there's still people who don't like the 2000s because of politics and sh*t. Hell, there are even people who hate the 2000s because of cartoons. I really don't get on how something made for kids (or teens/adults) should be hated.

I'd say of all '80s "things" that held over strongest into the '90s was the fitness craze. It started in late 1981 with the release of Olivia Newton-John's Physical and Jane Fonda's Workout Book, and watching a handful of Gilad Janklowicz's "Bodies In Motion" fitness workout programs from 1992, the music is still VERY '80s in tone (I mean, the opening theme sounds 1984-85 '80s with the synthpop and gated drums tone).

Of course, the fitness "craze" never really went away and gradually became more '90s in tone with the synth/freestyle music giving way to techno and trance (and thenceforth '00s and '10s), but it seems like most of these early 1990s "80s things" are of course holdovers from the '80s, whether it was a movie sequel, a video game/computer console that became popular in the '80s such as the NES, or music associated with a genre or artist that was introduced or got popular in the '80s (think Damn Yankees/Michael Jackson's "Dangerous" album/Warrant's "Cherry Pie"), the continuation of a show that started in the '80s, or photos that show that it took awhile for the mood to change. However, the new stuff that was introduced in the early '90s, like Twin Peaks, SNES, Sonic, and Trolls are clearly part of that decade, as are all of the news events of the time.

Funny thing is, Family Guy had a gag involving the song "King of Wishful Thinking" when Peter and Brian travelled back to the 90s. Brian said "This is what the 90s were like" - even though that's clearly more of an 80s song to my ears! :P

I could be wrong, but I think that distinct type of "80s pop" (gated reverb, synths, trumpets, etc.) died after 1991.

Funny thing is, Family Guy had a gag involving the song "King of Wishful Thinking" when Peter and Brian travelled back to the 90s. Brian said "This is what the 90s were like" - even though that's clearly more of an 80s song to my ears! :P

I could be wrong, but I think that distinct type of "80s pop" (gated reverb, synths, trumpets, etc.) died after 1991.


I don't think anybody even listened to that song back in the mid-late 90s.

The gag might've been about how older people, like Seth, perceive the whole 90s as being like 1990 (in other words, a continuation of their beloved 80s). ;D

The gag might've been about how older people, like Seth, perceive the whole 90s as being like 1990 (in other words, a continuation of their beloved 80s). ;D


And yet they think everyone listened to that song, throughout the whole 90s. Jesus, MC Hammer (even though he was mostly popular in the early 90s) was more definitive during the 90s than that song.

I don't think anybody even listened to that song back in the mid-late 90s.


I remember hearing that song on the radio all of the time in 1994.

I remember hearing that song on the radio all of the time in 1994.


In 1994!?!?

I remember hearing that song on the radio all of the time in 1994.


But that doesn't mean everyone listened to it during the entire 90s.

But that doesn't mean everyone listened to it during the entire 90s.


Never said they did.

In 1994!?!?


Yes, most people were still listening to the new music from the early '90s in the mid '90s.

Yes, most people were still listening to the new music from the early '90s in the mid '90s.


Well yeah, but I don't remember that song being all too big on the radio.

I don't think anybody even listened to that song back in the mid-late 90s.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry4iwzS4Na0
sounds more like the late 80's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry4iwzS4Na0
sounds more like the late 80's.


Yeah, some of us already said that.

It sounds like it's from 1986, so it's outdated even by 1990 standards.  Go West did have another hit around the turn of 1993, "Faithful," which also sounded behind its time, but even it has a more advanced sound than "King of Wishful Thinking," trading in the Like a Virgin/Control/"Higher Love"-style synth backgrounds for a new-jack swing feel (though still a very outdated melodic progression for the regular early 90s).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry4iwzS4Na0
sounds more like the late 80's.


It was recorded in 1989.

It was recorded in 1989.


So, it's not quite 90's?

So, it's not quite 90's?


In terms of sound? Nope! In terms of relevancy/popularity? Yep.