On the Internet right now, there's a war between 90s and 2000s kids. Since those 90s elitists are spreading nonsense about their decade being the best, despite most of them being children back in the decade, and their pop culture geared towards them is just corny. I like the 90s a little bit. I wouldn't really wish to experience the 90s (except for 1999, which is where 2000s culture started to rise). But, it seems like they praise the 90s like it's the best decade ever, despite having at least a few tragic events happening during the decade (e.g. 1993 WTC bombing, O.J. Simpson murder case, Gulf War, 1991 Rodney King beating). Face it, there's no perfect decade. There's no decade where they had perfect equality, a perfect economy, world peace and perfect sorts of entertainment. Why do they still talk about this? Why? It's been almost a decade since 90s kids plagued the Internet, and no one seems to stand up for them.

To answer my own question, I can't stand 90s kids. They're pretty much an old topic that was only good in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Now, it just seems like 2000s nostalgia is starting to kick them in the ass. So, do you guys agree or disagree with me on this one?

On the Internet right now, there's a war between 90s and 2000s kids. Since those 90s elitists are spreading nonsense about their decade being the best, despite most of them being children back in the decade, and their pop culture geared towards them is just corny. I like the 90s a little bit. I wouldn't really wish to experience the 90s (except for 1999, which is where 2000s culture started to rise). But, it seems like they praise the 90s like it's the best decade ever, despite having at least a few tragic events happening during the decade (e.g. 1993 WTC bombing, O.J. Simpson murder case, Gulf War, 1991 Rodney King beating). Face it, there's no perfect decade. There's no decade where they had perfect equality, a perfect economy, world peace and perfect sorts of entertainment. Why do they still talk about this? Why? It's been almost a decade since 90s kids plagued the Internet, and no one seems to stand up for them.

To answer my own question, I can't stand 90s kids. They're pretty much an old topic that was only good in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Now, it just seems like 2000s nostalgia is starting to kick them in the ass. So, do you guys agree or disagree with me on this one?


It depends. I don't mind someone sharing their childhood experiences, I actually find them pretty enjoyable to listen to. Heck when they brag about there childhoods being the best, it still doesn't really bother me. Its when some of them claim that everything made after the 90's suck is the issue or how some of them even think decades before the 90's were horrible

It depends. I don't mind someone sharing their childhood experiences, I actually find them pretty enjoyable to listen to. Heck when they brag about there childhoods being the best, it still doesn't really bother me. Its when some of them claim that everything made after the 90's suck is the issue or how some of them even think decades before the 90's were horrible


Yeah, I can't really give a crap about people who thinks that everything made after the 90s suck, because they're probably too lazy to look up crap back then. But for people who thinks that decades before the 90s were horrible, that just sucks for them because they probably watched some golden-age cartoons from Cartoon Network back then, and most of them were made from the 40s to the 70s.

I was a 2000s kid, but I have a strong preference towards 80s and 90s trends.  They just seemed so much edgier and more creative, whereas the 2000s were fairly shallow by comparison, albeit not to the same degree as the mid-2010s.

I was a 2000s kid, but I have a strong preference towards 80s and 90s trends.  They just seemed so much edgier and more creative, whereas the 2000s were fairly shallow by comparison, albeit not to the same degree as the mid-2010s.


Wow, I thought you were a 90s kid this whole time, while you consider the 2000s to be okay. Also, do you just hate the mid 2010s because of its politics or something? To me, I find the mid 2010s to be okay, but not as good as the 2000s.

Wow, I thought you were a 90s kid this whole time, while you consider the 2000s to be okay. Also, do you just hate the mid 2010s because of its politics or something? To me, I find the mid 2010s to be okay, but not as good as the 2000s.


I was born in 1992, and most of my favorite media growing up was from the late 90s and early 2000s, but as popular culture has gotten staler over the years, I've gradually discovered my love for the 80s and rest of the 90s.

I dislike the mid-2010s for all sorts of reasons, not just politics.  The only positive thing about our current era is that more people are accepting of LGBTQ people than ever before, although media portrayal is still rather stereotyped and the community itself is still biased towards certain types of queer people over others.  Otherwise, the movies of today are mostly pretty forgettable (I don't get the hype of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which still mostly just focuses on archetypal young white guys as the main hero), the music is flat-out boring across the board, and the television shows are mostly unpleasant (how is something as claustrophobic and depressing as OITNB a comedy?).  Also, technology seems to be caught in an impasse, with nothing groundbreaking coming out anymore, and even Apple products becoming buggier for some reason.  My nostalgia for previous eras is at an all-time high.

I was born in 1992, and most of my favorite media growing up was from the late 90s and early 2000s, but as popular culture has gotten staler over the years, I've gradually discovered my love for the 80s and rest of the 90s.

I dislike the mid-2010s for all sorts of reasons, not just politics.  The only positive thing about our current era is that more people are accepting of LGBTQ people than ever before, although media portrayal is still rather stereotyped and the community itself is still biased towards certain types of queer people over others.  Otherwise, the movies of today are mostly pretty forgettable (I don't get the hype of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which still mostly just focuses on archetypal young white guys as the main hero), the music is flat-out boring across the board, and the television shows are mostly unpleasant (how is something as claustrophobic and depressing as OITNB a comedy?).  Also, technology seems to be caught in an impasse, with nothing groundbreaking coming out anymore, and even Apple products becoming buggier for some reason.  My nostalgia for previous eras is at an all-time high.


Well, maybe if you watched other shows besides OITNB, then you would get a better experience of this portion of the 2010s. I don't know how to help you with your nostalgia crisis, since I only remember the 2000s and 2010s.

Born in 1988, yes I would be considered a 90s kid, and I can't even stand myself sometimes!  8)  :-X

Born in 1988, yes I would be considered a 90s kid, and I can't even stand myself sometimes!  8)  :-X


Well, you're cool, even as a 90s kid. It's just that I can't stand the ones who constantly thinks that the 90s were the greatest decade, even though nowadays, they just talk about the late 90s.

Serious though, I find these 00s kids less annoying. Does it skip a decade or generation, or something? 90s kids, we were a bit more annoying, I don't know why. Perhaps I'm biased against my era for some reason.

Serious though, I find these 00s kids less annoying. Does it skip a decade or generation, or something? 90s kids, we were a bit more annoying, I don't know why. Perhaps I'm biased against my era for some reason.


I agree with you. There's not that much annoying little 2000s kids that seem to be assholes with other generations, although, I could admit that I was an idiot on other forums. Due to the fact that I couldn't stand the trolls, and that tell me to stop take their crap seriously. But, I think I wasn't really into their conversations anyway. That's why I joined this website, so that I can talk about 2000s nostalgia without getting pissed at anybody.

I agree with you. There's not that much annoying little 2000s kids that seem to be assholes with other generations, although, I could admit that I was an idiot on other forums. Due to the fact that I couldn't stand the trolls, and that tell me to stop take their crap seriously. But, I think I wasn't really into their conversations anyway. That's why I joined this website, so that I can talk about 2000s nostalgia without getting pissed at anybody.


Yes, those born 1995 and after are less annoying than the ones born before. I think there's a reason they call my generation Y-ners (whiners)!  ;D

Yes, those born 1995 and after are less annoying than the ones born before. I think there's a reason they call my generation Y-ners (whiners)!  ;D

Aww thanks bro! ;D

I find many of their stereotypes to be very hypocritical that's all. It doesn't really bother me that much. However, like I said they tend to be hypocritical when it comes to their rules, standards, nostalgia, childhood/age elitism, generation cutoff dates, etc.

Aww thanks bro! ;D


You barely made the grade!  ;D

I find many of their stereotypes to be very hypocritical that's all. It doesn't really bother me that much. However, like I said they tend to be hypocritical when it comes to their rules, standards, nostalgia, childhood/age elitism, generation cutoff dates, etc.


I'm half joking, I think I just meant on this website.

I'm half joking, I think I just meant on this website.


Yeah I gotcha bro! :o

You barely made the grade!  ;D

I'm curious why you chose 95 and down?

I'm curious why you chose 95 and down?


Because some of the sources tend to say that Generation Y is from 1980-1994 and Generation Z is from 1995-2009. By this definition, people who are Generation Y were old enough to clearly remember 9/11 as it was happening and had most of their core childhood years in 90's culture or millennial culture. Folks who are Generation Z either have no memory of 9/11 or only vaguely remembers it, and mostly grew up straight into technology. However, the cutoffs aren't so cut & dry. I believe that the reason why 1994 is the cutoff for Generation Y is because they were in 2nd grade when 9/11 happened being in the last group of people who could really have a huge group of people having vivid memories the event having somewhat a little effect on them. They were the last to enter elementary school before the 2000's decade started, since they entered in late 1999. Plus, they were the last to spend the majority of their core childhood or elementary school years in the millennial era late 90's/early 2000's era. Since they were in Kindergarten thru 3rd grade throughout the early 2000's when the Classes of 2000-2003 graduated, while their 4th & 5th grade years were in the mid 2000's when the Class of 2004 & 2005 graduated. Plus, 1994 were the last group of people to vote in the 2012 election, 1995-1998 are having to wait for this upcoming 2016 election.

Because some of the sources tend to say that Generation Y is from 1980-1994 and Generation Z is from 1995-2009. By this definition, people who are Generation Y were old enough to clearly remember 9/11 as it was happening and had most of their core childhood years in 90's culture or millennial culture. Folks who are Generation Z either have no memory of 9/11 or only vaguely remembers it, and mostly grew up straight into technology. However, the cutoffs aren't so cut & dry. I believe that the reason why 1994 is the cutoff for Generation Y is because they were in 2nd grade when 9/11 happened being in the last group of people who could really have a huge group of people having vivid memories the event having somewhat a little effect on them. They were the last to enter elementary school before the 2000's decade started, since they entered in late 1999. Plus, they were the last to spend the majority of their core childhood or elementary school years in the millennial era late 90's/early 2000's era. Since they were in Kindergarten thru 3rd grade throughout the early 2000's when the Classes of 2000-2003 graduated, while their 4th & 5th grade years were in the mid 2000's when the Class of 2004 & 2005 graduated. Plus, 1994 were the last group of people to vote in the 2012 election, 1995-1998 are having to wait for this upcoming 2016 election.


I don't think 1994 is the proper cut off. I don't even feel z. I see no z characteristics in me, and if so then name some.

BTW the births for millenials/Gen Y can be VERY debatable! It's not quite clear yet! You could say mid-late 90s babies are cusp!

Because some of the sources tend to say that Generation Y is from 1980-1994 and Generation Z is from 1995-2009. By this definition, people who are Generation Y were old enough to clearly remember 9/11 as it was happening and had most of their core childhood years in 90's culture or millennial culture. Folks who are Generation Z either have no memory of 9/11 or only vaguely remembers it, and mostly grew up straight into technology. However, the cutoffs aren't so cut & dry. I believe that the reason why 1994 is the cutoff for Generation Y is because they were in 2nd grade when 9/11 happened being in the last group of people who could really have a huge group of people having vivid memories the event having somewhat a little effect on them. They were the last to enter elementary school before the 2000's decade started, since they entered in late 1999. Plus, they were the last to spend the majority of their core childhood or elementary school years in the millennial era late 90's/early 2000's era. Since they were in Kindergarten thru 3rd grade throughout the early 2000's when the Classes of 2000-2003 graduated, while their 4th & 5th grade years were in the mid 2000's when the Class of 2004 & 2005 graduated. Plus, 1994 were the last group of people to vote in the 2012 election, 1995-1998 are having to wait for this upcoming 2016 election.

ALSO, not all 94ers were in 2nd grade when the attack happened some were in 1st grade! Just like I'm a fall 95 born and was in kindergarten when the tragedy happened

Born in 1988, yes I would be considered a 90s kid, and I can't even stand myself sometimes!  8)  :-X


Can you stand others who discuss the 90's?

I'm an 80's kid, and 90's kids don't really bother me as much.

ALSO, not all 94ers were in 2nd grade when the attack happened some were in 1st grade! Just like I'm a fall 95 born and was in kindergarten when the tragedy happened


Yeah like I said the cutoffs aren't cut and dry and I disagree too, I'll say one thing. I don't understand why that when the 9/11 attacks happened all 2nd-12th graders at the time qualify as Y but only the Kindergarteners and 1st graders are knocked out and are on the Z side. It's said that the last group of Y kids had the majority of their childhood in the millennial era A.K.A. late 90's/early 2000's, while everybody who had the majority core childhood in the mid 2000's & after are considered as Z.

I'd say that 1994-1997 are Generation Y/Z cusp but leaning on the Y side. 1998-2001 are Y/Z cusp but leaning towards the Z side. Everybody born in late 2001/2002 & after are pure Z.

The core Y/Z cusp folks who are like on that limbo stuck between two generations are those born in 1995 & 1996, because we were the last group of people in elementary school when 9/11 happened us being in Kindergarten & 1st grade, the rest are pure Y while everybody born in 1997+ weren't ever in mandatory school when 9/11 happened. 1995 & 1996 mostly caught the tail end of golden age cartoons on TV and were in the middle of their childhoods when those came to a close. 1995 & 1996 were the last to become teenagers in the 2000's decade A.K.A. 2008 & 2009. However, it could be said that 1994 were the last to become teenagers in a strictly core 2000's year that being 2007. Going by the 13-17 teenage rule 1994 were the last to spend the majority of their teen years in the 2000's decade as well. These are just a bunch of scenarios here. But once again, the cutoffs are not cut & dry. However, most sources say that Generation Z starts in the mid or late 90's though.

Honestly I find this generation stuff real stupid, we also have Baby Boomers and Generation X as well.

I'm curious why you chose 95 and down?


Actually, Generation Y, or Millenials, don't end until 1996 or 1997 (at the latest). So technically, you're still a Millenial.

Can you stand others who discuss the 90's?


Yes!

Yeah like I said the cutoffs aren't cut and dry and I disagree too, I'll say one thing. I don't understand why that when the 9/11 attacks happened all 2nd-12th graders at the time qualify as Y but only the Kindergarteners and 1st graders are knocked out and are on the Z side. It's said that the last group of Y kids had the majority of their childhood in the millennial era A.K.A. late 90's/early 2000's, while everybody who had the majority core childhood in the mid 2000's & after are considered as Z.

I'd say that 1994-1997 are Generation Y/Z cusp but leaning on the Y side. 1998-2001 are Y/Z cusp but leaning towards the Z side. Everybody born in late 2001/2002 & after are pure Z.

The core Y/Z cusp folks who are like on that limbo stuck between two generations are those born in 1995 & 1996, because we were the last group of people in elementary school when 9/11 happened us being in Kindergarten & 1st grade, the rest are pure Y while everybody born in 1997+ weren't ever in mandatory school when 9/11 happened. 1995 & 1996 mostly caught the tail end of golden age cartoons on TV and were in the middle of their childhoods when those came to a close. 1995 & 1996 were the last to become teenagers in the 2000's decade A.K.A. 2008 & 2009. However, it could be said that 1994 were the last to become teenagers in a strictly core 2000's year that being 2007. Going by the 13-17 teenage rule 1994 were the last to spend the majority of their teen years in the 2000's decade as well. These are just a bunch of scenarios here. But once again, the cutoffs are not cut & dry. However, most sources say that Generation Z starts in the mid or late 90's though.

Honestly I find this generation stuff real stupid, we also have Baby Boomers and Generation X as well.


Yeah us 95ers & 96ers always get the short end of the stick. But I would say were are probably the last of Gen Y, but just barely. Here's how I  see it:

1993 & 1994: Gen Y with a Minor Gen Z influence (Underclassmen in College when Z culture was forming in 2013)

1995 & 1996: Gen Y with a Major Gen Z Influence (Upperclassmen in High School when Z culture was forming in 2013)

1997 & 1998: Gen Z with a Major Gen Y Influence (Underclassmen in High School when Z culture was forming in 2013)

1999 & 2000: Gen Z with a Minor Gen Y Influence (Middle Schoolers when Z culture was forming in 2013)

2001 & After Pure Gen Z

Also a question to @mqg96 and @Eazy-EMAN1995, do you guys relate to this video at all? Because they define Gen Y as being born from the early 80s through the mid 90's, meaning we would be at the tail end.

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Also a question to @mqg96 and @Eazy-EMAN1995, do you guys relate to this video at all? Because they define Gen Y as being born from the early 80s through the mid 90's, meaning we would be at the tail end.

MybFlN0Vn3s


I need to see a Y & Z video or just a Z video too. Because some of the stuff in Y I relate to but over half of it I don't remember as the pop culture was happening live. See, I might look at a Z video and might not relate to half of the stuff on there either. Which is why I feel like I'm on the cusp. Generation Y includes the N64 which we can relate to, but I bet Generation Z will include the Wii only and forget the GameCube ever existed. You get what I'm saying tho.

The 90s kids I can't stand are those elitists. The genuine ones I appreciate as they acknowledge that every decade has its ups and downs.


Because some of the sources tend to say that Generation Y is from 1980-1994 and Generation Z is from 1995-2009. By this definition, people who are Generation Y were old enough to clearly remember 9/11 as it was happening and had most of their core childhood years in 90's culture or millennial culture. Folks who are Generation Z either have no memory of 9/11 or only vaguely remembers it, and mostly grew up straight into technology. However, the cutoffs aren't so cut & dry. I believe that the reason why 1994 is the cutoff for Generation Y is because they were in 2nd grade when 9/11 happened being in the last group of people who could really have a huge group of people having vivid memories the event having somewhat a little effect on them. They were the last to enter elementary school before the 2000's decade started, since they entered in late 1999. Plus, they were the last to spend the majority of their core childhood or elementary school years in the millennial era late 90's/early 2000's era. Since they were in Kindergarten thru 3rd grade throughout the early 2000's when the Classes of 2000-2003 graduated, while their 4th & 5th grade years were in the mid 2000's when the Class of 2004 & 2005 graduated. Plus, 1994 were the last group of people to vote in the 2012 election, 1995-1998 are having to wait for this upcoming 2016 election.
Those sources from Urban Dictionary are between 3 and 6 years old, so those are definitely not accurate. By the time this decade ends, I'm sure 2000 will be considered the last year to be a millennial.

Some people forget that generations have 2 decades. For example, our generation is the 2000s and today. Although the Z culture is rising, ours is still in full force and it end around 2020. By then, our generation will be between 20 and 40 years old.

Not only is 9/11 a defining moment, but so is the Iraq war, Obama's presidency, 2008 stock market crash, and the rise of rapid technology.

The 90s kids I can't stand are those elitists. The genuine ones I appreciate as they acknowledge that every decade has its ups and downs.
Those sources from Urban Dictionary are between 3 and 6 years old, so those are definitely not accurate. By the time this decade ends, I'm sure 2000 will be considered the last year to be a millennial.

Some people forget that generations have 2 decades. For example, our generation is the 2000s and today. Although the Z culture is rising, ours is still in full force and it end around 2020. By then, our generation will be between 20 and 40 years old.

Not only is 9/11 a defining moment, but so is the Iraq war, Obama's presidency, 2008 stock market crash, and the rise of rapid technology.


Even if you go in google in search in Generation Y or Generation Z, a lot of sources do say that the cutoff for Generation Y is 1994 and 1995-2010 is the core Generation Z. Another word for Generation Y is millennials, however, really when you think about it 1999 & 2000 are just numbers. It's about when the culture was significant and what really changed the whole world. The release of the internet in mid 1995 and the tragedy of 9/11 in late 2001 are the building branches of the era we are in now. They say that in order to qualify as Generation Y, you had to have mostly grown up without going straight into technology. They don't give a sheesh if you remember a time before smartphones, iPod's, broadbands, Netflix, etc. The internet in general was the building branch of all of that. We may not have had more advanced cellphones, tablets, or computers back in 2004, but the building branch known as the internet was already long around. It started out slow but it's gotten much faster as its progressed. Without the internet think of the culture that wouldn't even exist around us right now.

Being a kid of the decade and growing up are two completely different terms. Someone born in let's say 1988 for example, spent most of their elementary school, middle school, and high school years during a pre-9/11 world and can easily remember a time before the internet. Someone born in 1997 for example never touched elementary school before 9/11 and was born after the internet was released. So that's why they give 1994 as the cutoff for Generation Y and start Generation Z at 1995 because of the release of internet. Also, if you look at the video OcarinaFan96 posted, if you look at the core Generation Y nostalgic traits, the prime for remembering a huge chunk of those are 80's babies and very early 90's babies. For example, I saw Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Toy Story in there. I know what those are, however, I don't remember when those TV series/movies came out as the pop culture was happening. Buffy the Vampire Slayer lasted from 1997-2003, I was 1-7 when that TV series ran and it had no significant impact on my life. People my age may have had older brothers, sisters, or cousins who might have exposed you to that which is why you remember it, or through reruns, but without that you probably weren't watching it nor you weren't in the target audience for it when new episodes were premiering regularly.

I was in born in 1996 and I was only in Kindergarten (2001-2002) and 1st grade (2002-2003) when the millennial era was still in full effect. My 2nd-5th grade years were spent from late 2003-early 2007 when Myspace was out and the mid 2000's culture was in full effect. So I can't even consider myself as a pure Y kid nor full early 2000's kid, the peak of my childhood was from 2002-2006 when I was 6-10 and I'm a early/mid 2000's hybrid kid but leaning a little more towards the mid 2000's, however, at the same time I don't feel like a pure Z kid either. Like I said mid 90's babies (1994-1996) are right on the cusp when it comes to Y or Z. But most sources say that in order to be pure Y, you have to be born before the internet was released and the majority of people in your age range has to remember 9/11 crystal clearly as it was happening. Instead of only vaguely remembering it or having no memories of it at all. Pure Z kids don't remember a time before 9/11 nor doesn't remember 9/11 at all, and pure Z kids don't remember golden age shows or cartoons on TV, however, 1995-1997 are usually the last that can have possible memories from that time. So I consider myself as a Y/Z cusp, and no need to worry, I feel this pain too and these generation stereotypes I find to be extremely stupid or obnoxious.

Even if you go in google in search in Generation Y or Generation Z, a lot of sources do say that the cutoff for Generation Y is 1994 and 1995-2010 is the core Generation Z. Another word for Generation Y is millennials, however, really when you think about it 1999 & 2000 are just numbers. It's about when the culture was significant and what really changed the whole world. The release of the internet in mid 1995 and the tragedy of 9/11 in late 2001 are the building branches of the era we are in now. They say that in order to qualify as Generation Y, you had to have mostly grown up without going straight into technology. They don't give a sheesh if you remember a time before smartphones, iPod's, broadbands, Netflix, etc. The internet in general was the building branch of all of that. We may not have had more advanced cellphones, tablets, or computers back in 2004, but the building branch known as the internet was already long around. It started out slow but it's gotten much faster as its progressed. Without the internet think of the culture that wouldn't even exist around us right now.

Being a kid of the decade and growing up are two completely different terms. Someone born in let's say 1988 for example, spent most of their elementary school, middle school, and high school years during a pre-9/11 world and can easily remember a time before the internet. Someone born in 1997 for example never touched elementary school before 9/11 and was born after the internet was released. So that's why they give 1994 as the cutoff for Generation Y and start Generation Z at 1995 because of the release of internet. Also, if you look at the video OcarinaFan96 posted, if you look at the core Generation Y nostalgic traits, the prime for remember a huge chunk of those are 80's babies and very early 90's babies. For example, I saw Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Toy Story in there. I know what those are, however, I don't remember when those TV series/movies came out as the pop culture was happening. Buffy the Vampire Slayer lasted from 1997-2003, I was 1-7 when that TV series ran and it had no significant impact on my life. People my age may have had older brothers, sisters, or cousins who might have exposed you to that which is why you remember it, or through reruns, but without that you probably weren't watching it nor you weren't in the target audience for it when new episodes were premiering regularly.

I was in born in 1996 and I was only in Kindergarten (2001-2002) and 1st grade (2002-2003) when the millennial era was still in full effect. My 2nd-5th grade years were spent from late 2003-early 2007 when Myspace was out and the mid 2000's culture was in full effect. So I can't even consider myself as a pure Y kid nor full early 2000's kid, the peak of my childhood was from 2002-2006 when I was 6-10 and I'm a early/mid 2000's hybrid kid but leaning a little more towards the mid 2000's, however, at the same time I don't feel like a pure Z kid either. Like I said mid 90's babies (1994-1996) are right on the cusp when it comes to Y or Z. But most sources say that in order to be pure Y, you have to be born before the internet was released and the majority of people in your age range has to remember 9/11 crystal clearly as it was happening. Instead of only vaguely remembering it or having no memories of it at all. Pure Z kids don't remember a time before 9/11 nor doesn't remember 9/11 at all, and pure Z kids don't remember golden age shows or cartoons on TV, however, 1995-1997 are usually the last that can have possible memories from that time. So I consider myself as a Y/Z cusp, and no need to worry, I feel this pain too and these generation stereotypes I find to be extremely stupid or obnoxious.

Yeah,good point about Buffy and Toy Story! I recall buffy's last three seasons only cause my Mom and older cousin would watch and I remember when Toy Story 2 came out. I even had the game for the N64! 8)

Also a question to @mqg96 and @Eazy-EMAN1995, do you guys relate to this video at all? Because they define Gen Y as being born from the early 80s through the mid 90's, meaning we would be at the tail end.

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Yes I can relate to the Y side A LOT, I recall 70% of Y side of the video, there were a couple of things in there when I was a baby, that I don't recall happening live, but most of the Y side of things I of course relate to!! I mean I use to own the Disney VHS tapes, say Toy Story 2 and Matrix when first released, listened to NSYNC, Backstreet, Outkast, Green Day and Usher, watched Boy Meets World, Will & Grace, Dawson, 7th Heaven, Sabrina, Charmed, when they were still on the air! Kalsey Cuspo era Nick cartoons, etc. etc.!!

I need to see a Y & Z video or just a Z video too. Because some of the stuff in Y I relate to but over half of it I don't remember as the pop culture was happening live. See, I might look at a Z video and might not relate to half of the stuff on there either. Which is why I feel like I'm on the cusp. Generation Y includes the N64 which we can relate to, but I bet Generation Z will include the Wii only and forget the GameCube ever existed. You get what I'm saying tho.


True thats a good point. Personally I relate to the Y side pretty well but thats probably because I have older sisters and of course about half of the Y side were things that lasted even in my childhood. So about 70%. But you are right everybody's different



Yes I can relate to the Y side A LOT, I recall 70% of Y side of the video, there were a couple of things in there when I was a baby, that I don't recall happening live, but most of the Y side of things I of course relate to!! I mean I use to own the Disney VHS tapes, say Toy Story 2 and Matrix when first released, listened to NSYNC, Backstreet, Outkast, Green Day and Usher, watched Boy Meets World, Will & Grace, Dawson, 7th Heaven, Sabrina, Charmed, when they were still on the air! Kalsey Cuspo era Nick cartoons, etc. etc.!!


Yeah same here! All of those shows you mentioned I remember vividly, and of course the shows and movies my sisters grew up with they exposed me to a young age. BTW I noticed in the video that they had a fight off between the NES & N64. But don't you think the Atari 2600 would be a better choice for the ultimate Gen X console? & of course we all know the N64 was the ultimate Gen Y console lol. I used to play at cousins all the time when I was 4-7 years old!

Also one more question for both Mqg & Eazy-Man, since we are on the cusp of Gen Y/Z I was wondering if you related to this video about Generation Z?

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And after that which did you relate more to, the Y side of the first video or the second video; Gen Z video?

Yeah same here! All of those shows you mentioned I remember vividly, and of course the shows and movies my sisters grew up with they exposed me to a young age. BTW I noticed in the video that they had a fight off between the NES & N64. But don't you think the Atari 2600 would be a better choice for the ultimate Gen X console? & of course we all know the N64 was the ultimate Gen Y console lol. I used to play at cousins all the time when I was 4-7 years old!

Also one more question for both Mqg & Eazy-Man, since we are on the cusp of Gen Y/Z I was wondering if you related to this video about Generation Z?

qypKjzUOhBM


And after that which did you relate more to, the Y side of the first video or the second video; Gen Z video?


Wow. I was born in late 1999 and I don't even relate that much to the little kid on that video. Especially for the fact that I was 5 to 6 on the kid's birth year. If Generation Z is 1995-2009, then we need to separate the generation into two or three divisions.

Y side of the first video WITHOUT question!


Are you relating that to me or you?

Are you relating that to me or you?

Me, my mistake; It was meant to reply to ocarnia96! ;D

True thats a good point. Personally I relate to the Y side pretty well but thats probably because I have older sisters and of course about half of the Y side were things that lasted even in my childhood. So about 70%. But you are right everybody's different

Yeah same here! All of those shows you mentioned I remember vividly, and of course the shows and movies my sisters grew up with they exposed me to a young age. BTW I noticed in the video that they had a fight off between the NES & N64. But don't you think the Atari 2600 would be a better choice for the ultimate Gen X console? & of course we all know the N64 was the ultimate Gen Y console lol. I used to play at cousins all the time when I was 4-7 years old!

Also one more question for both Mqg & Eazy-Man, since we are on the cusp of Gen Y/Z I was wondering if you related to this video about Generation Z?

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And after that which did you relate more to, the Y side of the first video or the second video; Gen Z video?


Y side of the first video WITHOUT QUESTION!

Me, my mistake; It was meant to reply to ocarnia96! ;D


How do you see Generation Z? I just feel like Gen Z isn't really like one full generation, due to the rapid technology and culture.

Wow. I was born in late 1999 and I don't even relate that much to the little kid on that video. Especially for the fact that I was 5 to 6 on the kid's birth year. If Generation Z is 1995-2009, then we need to separate the generation into two or three divisions.


I see, yeah a difference of 5-6 years is pretty noticeable. Though thats probably the reason why I don't relate much with Gen Z because someone 5 years younger than me would be the crux of Gen Z and its a pretty noticeable gap

How do you see Generation Z? I just feel like Gen Z isn't really like one full generation, due to the rapid technology and culture.

I'd say its pretty undefined! When some people say 95 is Z I think they mean on cusp side of Y! IMO you yourself are on the tail end of Y!

Y side of the first video WITHOUT QUESTION!


Yeah same here! I think I relate more to someone 9 years older than me than someone 9 years younger. Plus I personally cannot relate to having all of this technology at a young age.

For instance if you look at the date of the video it says 2013 meaning this kid was 8 at the time. When I was 8 I didn't have a tablet, smartphone, heck not even a computer. All I personally had was my CD Player, Gameboys & Game consoles.

Yeah same here! All of those shows you mentioned I remember vividly, and of course the shows and movies my sisters grew up with they exposed me to a young age. BTW I noticed in the video that they had a fight off between the NES & N64. But don't you think the Atari 2600 would be a better choice for the ultimate Gen X console? & of course we all know the N64 was the ultimate Gen Y console lol. I used to play at cousins all the time when I was 4-7 years old!

They chose NES because it's a Nintendo console like the N64! A better comparison would have been the Sega Master System vs the Sega Dreamcast IMO!

I see, yeah a difference of 5-6 years is pretty noticeable. Though thats probably the reason why I don't relate much with Gen Z because someone 5 years younger than me would be the crux of Gen Z and its a pretty noticeable gap


I agree. Although, some 2001 babies might've caught up with some late 2000s entertainment and culture.

I agree. Although, some 2001 babies might've caught up with some late 2000s entertainment and culture.


True you got a point

Yeah same here! I think I relate more to someone 9 years older than me than someone 9 years younger. Plus I personally cannot relate to having all of this technology at a young age.

For instance if you look at the date of the video it says 2013 meaning this kid was 8 at the time. When I was 8 I didn't have a tablet, smartphone, heck not even a computer. All I personally had was my CD Player, Gameboys & Game consoles.


Even when I was 8, I just had a computer and my game consoles. I just used my computer to play flash games and watch videos, if you were wondering.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/90s_kid.png

Dude with the bayesian generator format of "X was Y year but" followed by lists of two or three "movies|songs|fashions from x|y", I just want you to upload the script to github. As performance art, it's awesome. And way funnier than the guy whos bot just bumps 100 threads a day oin the Playful Penguin Palace.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/90s_kid.png

Dude with the bayesian generator format of "X was Y year but" followed by lists of two or three "movies|songs|fashions from x|y", I just want you to upload the script to github. As performance art, it's awesome. And way funnier than the guy whos bot just bumps 100 threads a day oin the Playful Penguin Palace.


If that comic was made a few years ago, then I would get that new parents were 90s kids since the early 2010s.

I can't stand when people who are clearly '00s kids try to claim the '90s.  If you were born after 92 at the latest you are not a '90s kid.  I even saw somebody born in 2001 trying to claim being a 90s kid online one time which I thought was ridiculous.  I also think that the '90s nostalgia is going a little bit too far these days.  However, there isn't anything wrong with remembering "your" decade fondly.  A lot of people say the '80s were the greatest decade ever.  I lived through half of them but was too young to remember them vividly and will never try to claim them.  I also can not relate to childhood culture of the 2000s being that I turned 15 in 2000.  I have friends in their early twenties and it's kind of weird and makes me feel old not having a shared childhood experience with them.

I can't stand when people who are clearly '00s kids try to claim the '90s.  If you were born after 92 at the latest you are not a '90s kid.  I even saw somebody born in 2001 trying to claim being a 90s kid online one time which I thought was ridiculous.  I also think that the '90s nostalgia is going a little bit too far these days.  However, there isn't anything wrong with remembering "your" decade fondly.  A lot of people say the '80s were the greatest decade ever.  I lived through half of them but was too young to remember them vividly and will never try to claim them.  I also can not relate to childhood culture of the 2000s being that I turned 15 in 2000.  I have friends in their early twenties and it's kind of weird and makes me feel old not having a shared childhood experience with them.


Yeah, those kind of people who were actually mid or late 90s babies are just stupid whenever they say that they're 90s kid. If they claim that they watch a few shows made from the 90s, then they're still 2000s kids. Watching reruns doesn't count for them. But I never knew that early 2000s babies claim that they were 90s kids, even though they never really get to experience the actual 90s. It's stupid.

I can't stand when people who are clearly '00s kids try to claim the '90s.  If you were born after 92 at the latest you are not a '90s kid. I even saw somebody born in 2001 trying to claim being a 90s kid online one time which I thought was ridiculous.  I also think that the '90s nostalgia is going a little bit too far these days.  However, there isn't anything wrong with remembering "your" decade fondly.  A lot of people say the '80s were the greatest decade ever.  I lived through half of them but was too young to remember them vividly and will never try to claim them.  I also can not relate to childhood culture of the 2000s being that I turned 15 in 2000.  I have friends in their early twenties and it's kind of weird and makes me feel old not having a shared childhood experience with them.


If you were born after 1992 you would've only been in 1st grade or below when the 2000's decade started, no way you're a 90's kid then. Heck 1992 BARELY makes it since they were barely halfway through elementary school when 2000 began. They were 5-7 from 1997-1999 old enough to be into the pop culture geared towards kids so that's barely enough. Going by the full kid age (3-12), someone born in 1992 was 3-7 from 1995-1999 and 8-12 from 2000-2004 so that's half n' half. However, their peak lets say at the age of 6-9 would be spent from 1998-2001 so again that's half n' half. Plus they were a teenager for the 2nd half of the 2000's decade from 2005-2009 at 13-17, so 1992 is like half n' half but BARELY qualify.

So by that logic, if someone born in 1992 at the very latest could be a 90's kid being 7 years old in 1999, that means that the very latest "early 2000's kid" would be someone born in 1995 or 1996 since they were 7 or 8 in 2003.

Yeah, those kind of people who were actually mid or late 90s babies are just stupid whenever they say that they're 90s kid. If they claim that they watch a few shows made from the 90s, then they're still 2000s kids. Watching reruns doesn't count for them. But I never knew that early 2000s babies claim that they were 90s kids, even though they never really get to experience the actual 90s. It's stupid.


Yeah, early 2000's babies aren't even early 2000's kids or mid 2000's kids either, most of them would be hybrids of the late 2000's and early 2010's as kids so they're not even full 2000's kids either.

Yeah, early 2000's babies aren't even early 2000's kids or mid 2000's kids either, most of them would be hybrids of the late 2000's and early 2010's as kids so they're not even full 2000's kids either.


Well, 2000 babies are kinda more experienced as kids in the 2000s, but 2001 and 2002 babies are 00s/10s hybrids.

If you were born after 1992 you would've only been in 1st grade or below when the 2000's decade started, no way you're a 90's kid then. Heck 1992 BARELY makes it since they were barely halfway through elementary school when 2000 began. They were 5-7 from 1997-1999 old enough to be into the pop culture geared towards kids so that's barely enough. Going by the full kid age (3-12), someone born in 1992 was 3-7 from 1995-1999 and 8-12 from 2000-2004 so that's half n' half. However, their peak lets say at the age of 6-9 would be spent from 1998-2001 so again that's half n' half. Plus they were a teenager for the 2nd half of the 2000's decade from 2005-2009 at 13-17, so 1992 is like half n' half but BARELY qualify.

So by that logic, if someone born in 1992 at the very latest could be a 90's kid being 7 years old in 1999, that means that the very latest "early 2000's kid" would be someone born in 1995 or 1996 since they were 7 or 8 in 2003.


True.  I think 1992 is the very latest you could be born and legitimately call yourself a '90s kid and even they are just barely.  I think it also makes a difference in terms of whether or not you have older or younger siblings.  I wonder if mid-late 90s babies who think they are '90s kids have older siblings so maybe they think they can relate to the culture because of that. Personally, as someone born in 1985, I tend to have the closest shared experience with people born between 1983 and 1990. 

Even if you go in google in search in Generation Y or Generation Z, a lot of sources do say that the cutoff for Generation Y is 1994 and 1995-2010 is the core Generation Z. Another word for Generation Y is millennials, however, really when you think about it 1999 & 2000 are just numbers. It's about when the culture was significant and what really changed the whole world. The release of the internet in mid 1995 and the tragedy of 9/11 in late 2001 are the building branches of the era we are in now. They say that in order to qualify as Generation Y, you had to have mostly grown up without going straight into technology. They don't give a sheesh if you remember a time before smartphones, iPod's, broadbands, Netflix, etc. The internet in general was the building branch of all of that. We may not have had more advanced cellphones, tablets, or computers back in 2004, but the building branch known as the internet was already long around. It started out slow but it's gotten much faster as its progressed. Without the internet think of the culture that wouldn't even exist around us right now.

Being a kid of the decade and growing up are two completely different terms. Someone born in let's say 1988 for example, spent most of their elementary school, middle school, and high school years during a pre-9/11 world and can easily remember a time before the internet. Someone born in 1997 for example never touched elementary school before 9/11 and was born after the internet was released. So that's why they give 1994 as the cutoff for Generation Y and start Generation Z at 1995 because of the release of internet. Also, if you look at the video OcarinaFan96 posted, if you look at the core Generation Y nostalgic traits, the prime for remembering a huge chunk of those are 80's babies and very early 90's babies. For example, I saw Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Toy Story in there. I know what those are, however, I don't remember when those TV series/movies came out as the pop culture was happening. Buffy the Vampire Slayer lasted from 1997-2003, I was 1-7 when that TV series ran and it had no significant impact on my life. People my age may have had older brothers, sisters, or cousins who might have exposed you to that which is why you remember it, or through reruns, but without that you probably weren't watching it nor you weren't in the target audience for it when new episodes were premiering regularly.

I was in born in 1996 and I was only in Kindergarten (2001-2002) and 1st grade (2002-2003) when the millennial era was still in full effect. My 2nd-5th grade years were spent from late 2003-early 2007 when Myspace was out and the mid 2000's culture was in full effect. So I can't even consider myself as a pure Y kid nor full early 2000's kid, the peak of my childhood was from 2002-2006 when I was 6-10 and I'm a early/mid 2000's hybrid kid but leaning a little more towards the mid 2000's, however, at the same time I don't feel like a pure Z kid either. Like I said mid 90's babies (1994-1996) are right on the cusp when it comes to Y or Z. But most sources say that in order to be pure Y, you have to be born before the internet was released and the majority of people in your age range has to remember 9/11 crystal clearly as it was happening. Instead of only vaguely remembering it or having no memories of it at all. Pure Z kids don't remember a time before 9/11 nor doesn't remember 9/11 at all, and pure Z kids don't remember golden age shows or cartoons on TV, however, 1995-1997 are usually the last that can have possible memories from that time. So I consider myself as a Y/Z cusp, and no need to worry, I feel this pain too and these generation stereotypes I find to be extremely stupid or obnoxious.


That's true. Some sources do say that Gen Y ends at 1994; however, those sources are about 4/5 years old. Today's sources now have 2000 being the latest cutoff with a few others saying the cutoff are with the current 18 year olds. I think what those sources are saying is that those born between 1995 and 2000 are Y/Z cuspers as while they don't remember 9/11, they recall a time before rapid technology.

I've seen that video that OcarinaFan96 posted a while back. I was able to relate to many things on the Y side especially Dawson's Creek. I remember the theme song very well despite being in elementary school during its run. Another one is 7th Heaven. Although I wasn't the target audience, I still watched it (As a kid, not only I watched cartoons, but even the primetime shows). Heck, I even watched friends when it was still current.

True.  I think 1992 is the very latest you could be born and legitimately call yourself a '90s kid and even they are just barely.  I think it also makes a difference in terms of whether or not you have older or younger siblings.  I wonder if mid-late 90s babies who think they are '90s kids have older siblings so maybe they think they can relate to the culture because of that. Personally, as someone born in 1985, I tend to have the closest shared experience with people born between 1983 and 1990.


If they really have siblings that were 90s kids, then their siblings would've slapped some sense into them, and said that they're 2000s kids.

I can't stand when people who are clearly '00s kids try to claim the '90s.  If you were born after 92 at the latest you are not a '90s kid. I even saw somebody born in 2001 trying to claim being a 90s kid online one time which I thought was ridiculous.  I also think that the '90s nostalgia is going a little bit too far these days.  However, there isn't anything wrong with remembering "your" decade fondly.  A lot of people say the '80s were the greatest decade ever.  I lived through half of them but was too young to remember them vividly and will never try to claim them. I also can not relate to childhood culture of the 2000s being that I turned 15 in 2000.  I have friends in their early twenties and it's kind of weird and makes me feel old not having a shared childhood experience with them.

In the first bold statement, that would mean that the C/O 2012 would be the first to be considered a 2000s kid as the C/O 2011 had '92 babies in it.

For the second, other than the early 00s, i can't relate to the rest of the 00s childhood as I was an adolescent BTT the core portion kicked in.


If you were born after 1992 you would've only been in 1st grade or below when the 2000's decade started, no way you're a 90's kid then. Heck 1992 BARELY makes it since they were barely halfway through elementary school when 2000 began. They were 5-7 from 1997-1999 old enough to be into the pop culture geared towards kids so that's barely enough. Going by the full kid age (3-12), someone born in 1992 was 3-7 from 1995-1999 and 8-12 from 2000-2004 so that's half n' half. However, their peak lets say at the age of 6-9 would be spent from 1998-2001 so again that's half n' half. Plus they were a teenager for the 2nd half of the 2000's decade from 2005-2009 at 13-17, so 1992 is like half n' half but BARELY qualify.

So by that logic, if someone born in 1992 at the very latest could be a 90's kid being 7 years old in 1999, that means that the very latest "early 2000's kid" would be someone born in 1995 or 1996 since they were 7 or 8 in 2003.


And the first half. Even though they weren't 13 until 2005, they were adolescents themselves from 2002-04. Once a person reaches double digits, the childhood is already over as the individual begins to transition from childhood to adolescence (which begins at 10/11) When my friends and I were 10, yes we were still doing child-like things, but we were also more aware of our surroundings and the pop culture.


If they really have siblings that were 90s kids, then their siblings would've slapped some sense into them, and said that they're 2000s kids.
I have to disagree with that. There are some people who do consider their younger siblings to be a 90s kid. Moreover, another factor is that the siblings could be close in age.

In the first bold statement, that would mean that the C/O 2012 would be the first to be considered a 2000s kid as the C/O 2011 had '92 babies in it.


Well someone born in 1992 in the Class of 2011 would have been born from September-December 1992 so technically speaking they would've been 6 throughout most of 1999 and hardly 7 that year. Plus they don't turn 13 until late 2005 so that's mathematically more time in the 2000's spent as a kid than the 90's. They were 4 1/2 when September arrived and had to wait another year, so they are tied with most 1993 born's. Really I was talking about September 1991-August 1992 who'd be the last group of 90's kids, but at the same time they're 2000's kids too. Late 1991-1992 born's are the ultimate hybrids of the late 90's/early 2000's. By the time you get to late 1992/early 1993 born's you were a kid for more of the 2000's than the 90's. You may be an adolescent at the age of 10-12, but that doesn't mean you won't feel like a kid anymore. On average most people's childhood peaks around Kindergarten thru 5th grade but the 2nd half of Kindergarten thru the 1st half of 5th grade are your full time years in elementary school. Someone born in late 1992-1993 was just transitioning from preschool to Kindergarten throughout 1998. They were 6 in 1999 throughout the 2nd half of Kindergarten thru 1st half of 1st grade. But late 1992-1993's 2nd half of 1st grade thru the rest of elementary school was spent from 2000-early 2004. So it's impossible for a 1993 born to be more of a 90's kid than 2000's kid. Now when I think about it, the Class of 2011 (late 1992-1993) are like the ultimate core early 2000's kids being 7-10 from 2000-2003. It makes sense even if you go like this.

Kindergarten (Class of 1999)

1st grade (Class of 2000)

2nd grade (Class of 2001)

3rd grade (Class of 2002)

4th grade (Class of 2003)

5th grade (Class of 2004)

For Class of 2011, the early 2000's classes graduated their 1st-4th grade years of elementary school and are right in the center as perfect kids of the time.

That's true. Some sources do say that Gen Y ends at 1994; however, those sources are about 4/5 years old. Today's sources now have 2000 being the latest cutoff with a few others saying the cutoff are with the current 18 year olds. I think what those sources are saying is that those born between 1995 and 2000 are Y/Z cuspers as while they don't remember 9/11, they recall a time before rapid technology.

I've seen that video that OcarinaFan96 posted a while back. I was able to relate to many things on the Y side especially Dawson's Creek. I remember the theme song very well despite being in elementary school during its run. Another one is 7th Heaven. Although I wasn't the target audience, I still watched it (As a kid, not only I watched cartoons, but even the primetime shows). Heck, I even watched friends when it was still current.


95 ers(like my self) and 96ers that I speak to WITHOUT QUESTION remember the September 11 attacks! Hell even 97ers and possibly 98ers could as well.

I can't stand when people who are clearly '00s kids try to claim the '90s.  If you were born after 92 at the latest you are not a '90s kid.  I even saw somebody born in 2001 trying to claim being a 90s kid online one time which I thought was ridiculous.  I also think that the '90s nostalgia is going a little bit too far these days.  However, there isn't anything wrong with remembering "your" decade fondly.  A lot of people say the '80s were the greatest decade ever.  I lived through half of them but was too young to remember them vividly and will never try to claim them.  I also can not relate to childhood culture of the 2000s being that I turned 15 in 2000.  I have friends in their early twenties and it's kind of weird and makes me feel old not having a shared childhood experience with them.

Well, Chris I think the reason they say those things is probably because some 90s series were STILL on the air and hell, some even lasted through 03-04ish! A lot of late 90s things cared off into the decade too! So that's probably a big reason!

Well someone born in 1992 in the Class of 2011 would have been born from September-December 1992 so technically speaking they would've been 6 throughout most of 1999 and hardly 7 that year. Plus they don't turn 13 until late 2005 so that's mathematically more time in the 2000's spent as a kid than the 90's. They were 4 1/2 when September arrived and had to wait another year, so they are tied with most 1993 born's. Really I was talking about September 1991-August 1992 who'd be the last group of 90's kids, but at the same time they're 2000's kids too. Late 1991-1992 born's are the ultimate hybrids of the late 90's/early 2000's. By the time you get to late 1992/early 1993 born's you were a kid for more of the 2000's than the 90's. You may be an adolescent at the age of 10-12, but that doesn't mean you won't feel like a kid anymore. On average most people's childhood peaks around Kindergarten thru 5th grade but the 2nd half of Kindergarten thru the 1st half of 5th grade are your full time years in elementary school. Someone born in late 1992-1993 was just transitioning from preschool to Kindergarten throughout 1998. They were 6 in 1999 throughout the 2nd half of Kindergarten thru 1st half of 1st grade. But late 1992-1993's 2nd half of 1st grade thru the rest of elementary school was spent from 2000-early 2004. So it's impossible for a 1993 born to be more of a 90's kid than 2000's kid. Now when I think about it, the Class of 2011 (late 1992-1993) are like the ultimate core early 2000's kids being 7-10 from 2000-2003. It makes sense even if you go like this.

Kindergarten (Class of 1999)

1st grade (Class of 2000)

2nd grade (Class of 2001)

3rd grade (Class of 2002)

4th grade (Class of 2003)

5th grade (Class of 2004)

For Class of 2011, the early 2000's classes graduated their 1st-4th grade years of elementary school and are right in the center as perfect kids of the time.
Not exactly. Remember that there are some people who were born in early-mid 1992 that were part of the C/O of 2011. Conversely, those born later that same year were even part of the C/O 2010. Also, keep in mind that it depends on the state, school district, and the person. A 1992 baby could have been in middle school in 2002 as a 5th grader. Heck, the same individual could have been in elementary in 2003 as a 6th grader.

Well they can. When people are in MS, they aren't doing kiddy activities anymore. They are now doing youth/adult things such as attending parties, hanging with friends in general, dating, and even working  (Yes, there are jobs for people under 16).

I looked at your list and while it's accurate, it would still depend on the state, school district and the person as it can vary.


95 ers(like my self) and 96ers that I speak to WITHOUT QUESTION remember the September 11 attacks! Hell even 97ers and possibly 98ers could as well.

Right. I don't why those sources make that claim. Memories can start from age 3 meaning almost all 90s babies can/could remember 9/11 as it happened. Furthermore, even if some kids can't remember the event, it still affected them one way or another.

I can't stand when people who are clearly '00s kids try to claim the '90s.  If you were born after 92 at the latest you are not a '90s kid.  I even saw somebody born in 2001 trying to claim being a 90s kid online one time which I thought was ridiculous.  I also think that the '90s nostalgia is going a little bit too far these days.  However, there isn't anything wrong with remembering "your" decade fondly.  A lot of people say the '80s were the greatest decade ever.  I lived through half of them but was too young to remember them vividly and will never try to claim them.  I also can not relate to childhood culture of the 2000s being that I turned 15 in 2000.  I have friends in their early twenties and it's kind of weird and makes me feel old not having a shared childhood experience with them.

Well, you and I  have some differences in childhood pop culture! Your's being NES/SNES, Sega Genesis, Nickelodeon's prime, Fox Kid's prime, early Kids WB, Disney afternoon cartoons, first couple of Disney renaissance films, WWF hogan and Bret Hart era's. Mine being N64 and Gamecube, PS1 and PS2, Dreamcast and XBOX, Cartoon Network's prime, Toonami, Nickelodeon Kalsey Cuscpo era, Toon Disney, Disney Channel's hey day, Later Fox kids, millennium era Kids WB, Disney Saturday Morning, LATER Disney Renaissance films/ early 00s post Renaissance Disney pics, WWF Attitude and WWE Ruthless Aggression years.

Overall, I think I relate better to you mid 80s babies A LOT more than mid 00s babies, that's for sure!!!

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True.  I think 1992 is the very latest you could be born and legitimately call yourself a '90s kid and even they are just barely.  I think it also makes a difference in terms of whether or not you have older or younger siblings.  I wonder if mid-late 90s babies who think they are '90s kids have older siblings so maybe they think they can relate to the culture because of that. Personally, as someone born in 1985, I tend to have the closest shared experience with people born between 1983 and 1990. 

You could even call 1992ers -1996ers millennium era kids!!! 1992ers-94ers peak millennium era kids and late 1994ers-96ers being peak early 00s kids!!
They should call themsleves millennium kids instead of 90s kids!

For 90s kids! You COULD say elder 90s kids were born from 1982-1985. 1986-1988/89ers being the peak 90s kids, and 1989-1991ers being the youngest.

Not exactly. Remember that there are some people who were born in early-mid 1992 that were part of the C/O of 2011. Conversely, those born later that same year were even part of the C/O 2010. Also, keep in mind that it depends on the state, school district, and the person. A 1992 baby could have been in middle school in 2002 as a 5th grader. Heck, the same individual could have been in elementary in 2003 as a 6th grader.

Well they can. When people are in MS, they aren't doing kiddy activities anymore. They are now doing youth/adult things such as attending parties, hanging with friends in general, dating, and even working  (Yes, there are jobs for people under 16).

I looked at your list and while it's accurate, it would still depend on the state, school district and the person as it can vary.
Right. I don't why those sources make that claim. Memories can start from age 3 meaning almost all 90s babies can/could remember 9/11 as it happened. Furthermore, even if some kids can't remember the event, it still affected them one way or another.

That means they would have most likely started school late at age 6 or had started school at 5 but gotten held back at some point. Most early-mid 1992 born's were 5 in 1997 to start Kindergarten that year and graduated high school in 2010 at 18 or 17 1/2. But yeah I see what you're saying though, it varies from person to person or school district.

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The first group would be remembered by those born in the 80's, the second group would be remembered by those born in the early to mid 90's.

The first group would be remembered by those born in the 80's, the second group would be remembered by those born in the early to mid 90's.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! So those saying their 90s kids is false their millennium era kids!!

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! So those saying their 90s kids is false their millennium era kids!!


OH, and one more thing. I can recall Cartoon Cartoons (when new episodes were still premiering regularly), the newest Nicktoons, One Saturday Morning (including reruns on Toon Disney), Zoog Disney (vaguely but I still remember that logo clearly though), Nintendo 64, the Anime (if you're referring to Toonami on weekdays from 1997-2003), and most of those movies you got in as well.

However, the other stuff like The WB programming (man I wished I was smart enough to watch the shows instead of just Kids WB), WWE Attitude Era (I wasn't into that when I was that young unfortunately), FOX Kids (hardly ever watched this), and Ultimate R&B (I probably heard it on the radio many times when I was little but not aware of it). I honestly don't remember being into exclusively though.

OH, and one more thing. I can recall Cartoon Cartoons (when new episodes were still premiering regularly), the newest Nicktoons, One Saturday Morning (including reruns on Toon Disney), Zoog Disney (vaguely but I still remember that logo clearly though), Nintendo 64, the Anime (if you're referring to Toonami on weekdays from 1997-2003), and most of those movies you got in as well.

However, the other stuff like The WB programming (man I wished I was smart enough to watch the shows instead of just Kids WB), WWE Attitude Era (I wasn't into that when I was that young unfortunately), FOX Kids (hardly ever watched this), and Ultimate R&B (I probably heard it on the radio many times when I was little but not aware of it). I honestly don't remember being into exclusively though.

Yesss, I actually consider myself and you a millennium era kid too, but the early 2000s were yours and mine's peak kid years!!

Yesss, I actually consider myself and you a millennium era kid too, but the early 2000s were yours and mine's peak kid years!!


Well for me, I consider myself as a hybrid of the early 2000's and mid 2000's as a kid. Since I was 5-10 from 2001-2006. I just consider myself a hybrid of two periods so I had the best of both worlds. Two different eras brought out the best moments of my childhood. Whether it's pop culturally or personally. I wouldn't want to be born earlier or later than where I am.

You could even call 1992ers -1996ers millennium era kids!!! 1992ers-94ers peak millennium era kids and late 1994ers-96ers being peak early 00s kids!!
They should call themsleves millennium kids instead of 90s kids!

For 90s kids! You COULD say elder 90s kids were born from 1982-1985. 1986-1988/89ers being the peak 90s kids, and 1989-1991ers being the youngest.


This right here! Yeah I usually just consider myself a early-mid 00's kid, but millennium kid does sound pretty badass. I guess I could make the claim that I am one since I could remember 1999 pretty well and I was in my peak childhood when the era was ending in 2003. BTW do you guys believe there are two parts to the millennia era like I do?

Personally I think the late 1997-mid 01' is the first half while late 01'-early 04' is the second half. We would've spent most of our peak childhoods in the second half of the millennia period aka early 00's, our early childhoods in the first half aka late 90's, & later childhoods in the core 00's or mid 00's!  8)

And yeah I agree with mqg being born in early 1996 is pretty darn amazing!  :D :D :D

This right here! Yeah I usually just consider myself a early-mid 00's kid, but millennium kid does sound pretty badass. I guess I could make the claim that I am one since I could remember 1999 pretty well and I was in my peak childhood when the era was ending in 2003. BTW do you guys believe there are two parts to the millennia era like I do?

Personally I think the late 1997-mid 01' is the first half while late 01'-early 04' is the second half. We would've spent most of our peak childhoods in the second half of the millennia period, our early childhoods in the first half, & later childhoods in the core 00's!  8)

And yeah I agree with mqg being born in early 1996 is pretty darn amazing!  :D :D :D

Yes, being born in fall 1995; that feels AMAZING! However, I feel like a weird hybird kid of the millennium period and the early 00s (late 2001-mid 04)!  Since I was an older kid in the mid 00s and a young adolescent in the late 00s! I'm not as nostalgic for those eras as I am for the previous periods!! I liked being an older kid in the mid 00s but it WASN'T like it was before!! Being a young teen in the late 00s was alright, a fresh experience, but I went through some stuff!!

Yes, being born in fall 1995; that feels AMAZING! However, I feel like a weird hybird kid of the millennium period and the early 00s (late 2001-mid 04)!  Since I was an older kid in the mid 00s and a young adolescent in the late 00s! I'm not as nostalgic for those eras as I am for the previous periods!! I liked being an older kid in the mid 00s but it WASN'T like it was before!! Being a young teen in the late 00s was alright, a fresh experience, but I went through some stuff!!


Yeah my favorite time as a kid was my peak childhood in the early 00's (2001-2004), but I do get very nostalgic of the 1999-2001 period as well plus 2004-2006 were my big kid years and those were very fun!

You mentioned that you liked the late 00's, well for me despite the falling economy and pop culture starting to fall off (IMO) I had a lot fun in my personal life in the late 00's, it was a great time to be a tween/early teen, with an exception with late 2009 as 2009-2012 was very dark time for my personal life.

However since 2013 and graduating H.S in 2014 my life has been much better!

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I agree with your chart; however, isn't there more to being a kid than just cartoons and video games? I mean i did those things in the photos from both sides and they were fantasic, but I was also doing much more. As a kid, I rode bikes; i went to the park with family and friends; i played freetime sports; i went swimming to the beach and the pool and more. I say that's more important as you are doing more than being inside.


This right here! Yeah I usually just consider myself a early-mid 00's kid, but millennium kid does sound pretty badass. I guess I could make the claim that I am one since I could remember 1999 pretty well and I was in my peak childhood when the era was ending in 2003. BTW do you guys believe there are two parts to the millennia era like I do?

Personally I think the late 1997-mid 01' is the first half while late 01'-early 04' is the second half. We would've spent most of our peak childhoods in the second half of the millennia period aka early 00's, our early childhoods in the first half aka late 90's, & later childhoods in the core 00's or mid 00's!  8)

And yeah I agree with mqg being born in early 1996 is pretty darn amazing!  :D :D :D


I agree with the first bold. It sounds awesome.

In the second bold, that would mean most of my peak was more in the first half of the millennial era considering that I began my core childhood as the time frame started. During most of the second half, it was over and I was already entering puberty and adolescence.

As for your question, I say there is two portions of the millennial era. The reason is that many things from the first half disappeared and new things ushered in within the second half.


That means they would have most likely started school late at age 6 or had started school at 5 but gotten held back at some point. Most early-mid 1992 born's were 5 in 1997 to start Kindergarten that year and graduated high school in 2010 at 18 or 17 1/2. But yeah I see what you're saying though, it varies from person to person or school district.
I have a question for you. For your graduation class, was there any people who were outside of the range (Like were there people born early-mid 1995 and late 1996 within the class)?

I agree with your chart; however, isn't there more to being a kid than just cartoons and video games? I mean i did those things in the photos from both sides and they were fantasic, but I was also doing much more. As a kid, I rode bikes; i went to the park with family and friends; i played freetime sports; i went swimming to the beach and the pool and more. I say that's more important as you are doing more than being inside.

I guess I was mainly using pop culture to try to state differences between just being a child in the decade and growing up in the decade!

True.  I think 1992 is the very latest you could be born and legitimately call yourself a '90s kid and even they are just barely.  I think it also makes a difference in terms of whether or not you have older or younger siblings.  I wonder if mid-late 90s babies who think they are '90s kids have older siblings so maybe they think they can relate to the culture because of that. Personally, as someone born in 1985, I tend to have the closest shared experience with people born between 1983 and 1990.
Oh that's great. Mines slightly overlaps yours as we both can relate to late 80s babies; however, my shared experiences go with people born between 1988/89 and 1997/98.


I guess I was mainly using pop culture to try to state differences between just being a child in the decade and growing up in the decade!

No I understand. It's good that you did that. There's definitely a difference between being a kid and growing up within  a decade. While my childhood was mostly during the millennial era, my adolescence was during the 2000s.

I agree with your chart; however, isn't there more to being a kid than just cartoons and video games? I mean i did those things in the photos from both sides and they were fantasic, but I was also doing much more. As a kid, I rode bikes; i went to the park with family and friends; i played freetime sports; i went swimming to the beach and the pool and more. I say that's more important as you are doing more than being inside.

I agree with the first bold. It sounds awesome.

In the second bold, that would mean most of my peak was more in the first half of the millennial era considering that I began my core childhood as the time frame started. During most of the second half, it was over and I was already entering puberty and adolescence.

As for your question, I say there is two portions of the millennial era. The reason is that many things from the first half disappeared and new things ushered in within the second half.
I have a question for you. For your graduation class, was there any people who were outside of the range (Like were there people born early-mid 1995 and late 1996 within the class)?


Yeah your peak would've been between the years 1998-2001 when you was 5-8 years old, so mostly in the first half of the millennial era. My peak was spent between the years 2001-2004, so mostly the second half of the millennial era.

Also to answer your question being part of the class of 14', yeah there were a few who got held back and were supposed to graduate in 13' and I knew a few born in late 96' who had good grades and thus were able to graduate with 14' as well. I'm from NJ Btw, and In my town the cutoff is September. So for my class that would be October of 1995 to September of 1996

Yeah your peak would've been between the years 1998-2001 when you was 5-8 years old, so mostly in the first half of the millennial era. My peak was spent between the years 2001-2004, so mostly the second half of the millennial era.

Also to answer your question being part of the class of 14', yeah there were a few who got held back and were supposed to graduate in 13' and I knew a few born in late 96' who had good grades and thus were able to graduate with 14' as well. I'm from NJ Btw, and In my town the cutoff is September. So for my class that would be October of 1995 to September of 1996

Mine was June 1995- July 1996 with SOME fall 96 born!

Oh that's great. Mines slightly overlaps yours as we both can relate to late 80s babies; however, my shared experiences go with people born between 1988/89 and 1997/98.
No I understand. It's good that you did that. There's definitely a difference between being a kid and growing up within  a decade. While my childhood was mostly during the millennial era, my adolescence was during the 2000s.


I think for me I could easily relate equally to someone 5-6 years younger (2001 & 2002) and someone 5 or 6 years older (1990 & 1991) however my actual peers would be those born from late 1991 - mid 2000, basically someone 4 years (or close to it) older and 4 years younger

Mine was June 1995- July 1996 with SOME fall 96 born!


Thats cool! Yeah certain states have different cutoff points and if you live in NJ its even more confusing having different cutoff points depending on the township you live in!

I think for me I could easily relate equally to someone 5-6 years younger (2001 & 2002) and someone 5 or 6 years older (1990 & 1991) however my actual peers would be those born from late 1991 - mid 2000, basically someone 4 years (or close to it) older and 4 years younger

I consider my peers to be born between 1989 and 1998!! with 92-97ers being my main peers!! I also relate to 80s babies MUCH MUCH more than the 00s babies!!

I consider my peers to be born between 1989 and 1998!! with 92-97ers being my main peers!! I also relate to 80s babies MUCH MUCH more than the 00s babies!!


Thats cool! Yeah I probably would relate better with a 89er than a 03er. Even though the 89er would be more of a core 90's kid I think the fact that I had a 90's like experience growing up thanks to older siblings and cousins, plus being a millennial kid when the most 'tech' you had was a simple mp3 and a fliphone at best, and of course many shows an 89er grew up with (Rugrats & DBZ to name a couple & when they were still making new episodes) I grew up with as well. So yeah an 89er would be cool in my book  ;) an 03er, ehh well...

Yeah your peak would've been between the years 1998-2001 when you was 5-8 years old, so mostly in the first half of the millennial era. My peak was spent between the years 2001-2004, so mostly the second half of the millennial era.

Also to answer your question being part of the class of 14', yeah there were a few who got held back and were supposed to graduate in 13' and I knew a few born in late 96' who had good grades and thus were able to graduate with 14' as well. I'm from NJ Btw, and In my town the cutoff is September. So for my class that would be October of 1995 to September of 1996



Mine was June 1995- July 1996 with SOME fall 96 born!


Oh that's cool for both of you. The 2014 class here in California was December 1995 to November 1996 with some out of the range. We were one of the few states with a late cutoff before it was changed a few years ago.

To EazyEman, whats's it like to have an August cutoff?


I consider my peers to be born between 1989 and 1998!! with 92-97ers being my main peers!! I also relate to 80s babies MUCH MUCH more than the 00s babies!!
This. I feel like I can relate to someone born in 1986 more than someone born in 2000 (except for family).


I think for me I could easily relate equally to someone 5-6 years younger (2001 & 2002) and someone 5 or 6 years older (1990 & 1991) however my actual peers would be those born from late 1991 - mid 2000, basically someone 4 years (or close to it) older and 4 years younger
I say 6/7 years is a good amount to relate to a person without feeling out of touch.

I was class of 2011 and born in August of 1992, and yet a fair portion of my class was still a bit older than me (and no, they didn't repeat a grade).  I think those born before September are likelier to be in the younger range of the higher class, while those born after are likelier to be in the older range of the lower class, at least that's my experience.

I think I relate more to mid-late 90s babies, since I actually remember 2002 and 2003, and I remember a time where people wasn't obsessed with tablets. Even though the entire 2000s didn't have computer tablets like iPads.

I think I relate more to mid-late 90s babies, since I actually remember 2002 and 2003, and I remember a time where people wasn't obsessed with tablets. Even though the entire 2000s didn't have computer tablets like iPads.


Wait weren't you born in late 99'? You don't relate to people born in the early 00's?

The golden rule is 6 years later or 6 years before you was born. So for me that would be class of 2008 at the very earliest and class of 2020 at the very latest. My main peers would be the class of 2010-Class of 2018.

Since you was born in 99' your peers would be the class of 2011 at the earliest and Class of Class of 2023 at the very latest. Your main peers would be the Class of 2013-Class of 2021

Wait weren't you born in late 99'? You don't relate to people born in the early 00's?

The golden rule is 6 years later or 6 years before you was born. So for me that would be class of 2008 at the very earliest and class of 2020 at the very latest. My main peers would be the class of 2010-Class of 2018.

Since you was born in 99' your peers would be the class of 2011 at the earliest and Class of Class of 2023 at the very latest. Your main peers would be the Class of 2013-Class of 2021


Well, I could say that I relate to 2000 babies, but not 2001 or 2002 babies. You also just proven my point that I relate more to mid-late 90s babies, along with 2000 babies by putting in their graduation class years.

Well, I could say that I relate to 2000 babies, but not 2001 or 2002 babies. You also just proven my point that I relate more to mid-late 90s babies, along with 2000 babies by putting in their graduation class years.


So you don't relate to someone only 2 or 3 years younger than you? I mean I guess everybody's different. I have friends 2-3 years younger and while there are a few differences in how we grew up (for instance I was more of a early 00's kid while they were more like mid 00's kids) we could relate pretty well. So it's pretty weird to think that someone only a few years younger than you would be much different. Plus you was born in late 99' so it's even much closer age gap than if you was born in like earl-mid 99. You technically closer in age to most people born in 2001 & 2002 than most people born in 1995 & 1996. But hey Idk you personally so whatever floats your boat I guess...

So you don't relate to someone only 2 or 3 years younger than you? I mean I guess everybody's different. I have friends 2-3 years younger and while there are a few differences in how we grew up (for instance I was more of a early 00's kid while they were more like mid 00's kids) we could relate pretty well. So it's pretty weird to think that someone only a few years younger than you would be much different. Plus you was born in late 99' so it's even much closer age gap than if you was born in like earl-mid 99. You technically closer in age to most people born in 2001 & 2002 than most people born in 1995 & 1996. But hey Idk you personally so whatever floats your boat I guess...


Okay, I had some friends who were born in 2001, but I really didn't hang out with them that much.

Okay, I had some friends who were born in 2001, but I really didn't hang out with them that much.


Technically almost all of 2001 is only 1 year younger than your actual age. So some of 2001 is closer to your birth date than some of 1998. I was born in early 1996 and my highest range is 1992 and my lowest range is 2000. However, this seems to change once you get older and the generation gap feels closer. As a kid or teen in elementary school, middle school, and even high school too you may not feel like you relate to folks younger than you because you want to be as distant from the lower grades as possible, but everyone has felt that way before when we were at that point. We have to lead the younger ones up then it's your turn eventually, because the folks older than us had to lead us before.

I consider my peers to be born between 1989 and 1998!! with 92-97ers being my main peers!! I also relate to 80s babies MUCH MUCH more than the 00s babies!!


Speaking about the 2000's & such, I saw this video the other day and it scared the crap out of me. I never knw people our age... well watch the video for yourself

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Speaking about the 2000's & such, I saw this video the other day and it scared the crap out of me. I never knw people our age... well watch the video for yourself

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I'm kinda surprised that there's teens today that never heard of flip phones. Hell, I've heard of flip phones around the mid 2000s, and I was only a little kid back then.

Speaking about the 2000's & such, I saw this video the other day and it scared the crap out of me. I never knw people our age... well watch the video for yourself

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How did it scare you, I've definitely had a flip phone before, I had one in 7th grade, how could a teen reaction video be like this? You know the details or folks' ages?

How did it scare you, I've definitely had a flip phone before, I had one in 7th grade, how could a teen reaction video be like this? You know the details or folks' ages?


Well, the teens that are shown on the video were born from 1995-97. So, they're like your age range.

I'm kinda surprised that there's teens today that never heard of flip phones. Hell, I've heard of flip phones around the mid 2000s, and I was only a little kid back then.


The scary thing is that these guys are my age and they've never owned (or in some cases never used) a fliphone before. My first phone was a crappy Nokia Brick when I was 12 in 7th grade, then a standard fliphone on my 8th grade graduation, a standard cell phone that looked a lot like a Blackberry for my 15th birthday, a crappy Android when I was 16 in the summer of 2012 and finally my current phone an iphone 5s that I got for my 18th birthday lol

The scary thing is that these guys are my age and they've never owned (or in some cases never used) a fliphone before. My first phone was a crappy Nokia Brick when I was 12 in 7th grade, then a standard fliphone on my 8th grade graduation, a standard cell phone that looked a lot like a Blackberry for my 15th birthday, a crappy Android when I was 16 in the summer of 2012 and finally my current phone an iphone 5s that I got for my 18th birthday lol


I have an iPhone 5C that I got for Christmas in 2014.

The scary thing is that these guys are my age and they've never owned (or in some cases never used) a fliphone before. My first phone was a crappy Nokia Brick when I was 12 in 7th grade, then a standard fliphone on my 8th grade graduation, a standard cell phone that looked a lot like a Blackberry for my 15th birthday, a crappy Android when I was 16 in the summer of 2012 and finally my current phone an iphone 5s that I got for my 18th birthday lol


That doesn't make any sense, I remember back in 6th & 7th grade a BUNCH of folks that had flip phones at the time. My 8th grade year is when I started noticing people with less flip phones and more sliding phones or Blackberries. Anyways, here's some other scary Teen React videos as well. Now I'll admit my first console was the Gamecube, however, Super Smash Bros. Melee was a lot better than the original Super Smash Bros. and that's a fact unless you're rose colored blinded, however, I actually prefer Mario Kart 64 over Double Dash due to its classic original feel. I played MK64 many times at my children's church service when I was 5, 6, & 7 before I owned Double Dash.

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The scary thing is that these guys are my age and they've never owned (or in some cases never used) a fliphone before. My first phone was a crappy Nokia Brick when I was 12 in 7th grade, then a standard fliphone on my 8th grade graduation, a standard cell phone that looked a lot like a Blackberry for my 15th birthday, a crappy Android when I was 16 in the summer of 2012 and finally my current phone an iphone 5s that I got for my 18th birthday lol


I haven't watched this one yet, but I'm curious if any late 90's ones that run through the early 2000's are mentioned in this one.

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I haven't watched this one yet, but I'm curious if any late 90's ones that run through the early 2000's are mentioned in this one.

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I've seen this video and most of them ran in the heart of the 90's, so its understandable if they didn't know a few of them

I'm kinda surprised that there's teens today that never heard of flip phones. Hell, I've heard of flip phones around the mid 2000s, and I was only a little kid back then.


Yeah I don't believe it.  We have only really been in the smartphone era since 2010.  Late 90s babies should remember flip phones.

Yeah I don't believe it.  We have only really been in the smartphone era since 2010.  Late 90s babies should remember flip phones.


I'm a late 1999 baby and I actually remember and owned a flip phone owned. The last time that I used a flip phone was around early 2008. I wouldn't say that I used it for calling people. I used it for recording videos (it was a camera phone, if you were wondering).

Speaking about the 2000's & such, I saw this video the other day and it scared the crap out of me. I never knw people our age... well watch the video for yourself

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I can't believe those kids didn't understand the flip phone generation.

I can't believe those kids didn't understand the flip phone generation.


Well, I wouldn't say that they didn't understand the flip phone generation. It's just that some of them never really used or owned a flip phone in their life. So, it's not their fault that they didn't had a flip phone back then.

I haven't watched this one yet, but I'm curious if any late 90's ones that run through the early 2000's are mentioned in this one.

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I'm surprised most of the kids knew the 90's theme songs.

I'm surprised most of the kids knew the 90's theme songs.


Well, maybe they known those shows by watching reruns of it.

Speaking about the 2000's & such, I saw this video the other day and it scared the crap out of me. I never knw people our age... well watch the video for yourself

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Damn. That's weird. I cant even understand how they don't remember the cell phone craze. They were in the age range when they were highly popular.


That doesn't make any sense, I remember back in 6th & 7th grade a BUNCH of folks that had flip phones at the time. My 8th grade year is when I started noticing people with less flip phones and more sliding phones or Blackberries. Anyways, here's some other scary Teen React videos as well. Now I'll admit my first console was the Gamecube, however, Super Smash Bros. Melee was a lot better than the original Super Smash Bros. and that's a fact unless you're rose colored blinded, however, I actually prefer Mario Kart 64 over Double Dash due to its classic original feel. I played MK64 many times at my children's church service when I was 5, 6, & 7 before I owned Double Dash.

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I saw the first one a while back and the second one just now and I wonder how they don't remember N64 being popular. There are some people their age who did play those at the end of the N64's run. I know not everyone plays video games, but people would at least know about the older consoles.



I haven't watched this one yet, but I'm curious if any late 90's ones that run through the early 2000's are mentioned in this one.

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I watched most of it and no, the shows that were being shown are within the core 90s. I do have to say that they knew a few of the shows as they recalled watching them back then.

Speaking about the 2000's & such, I saw this video the other day and it scared the crap out of me. I never knw people our age... well watch the video for yourself

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This was confusing.... they should know what it is!! ;D ;D ;D  They SHOULD have used people who are 13,14,and 15, born between 2000-2002!!

This was confusing.... they should know what it is!! ;D ;D ;D  They SHOULD have used people who are 13,14,and 15, born between 2000-2002!!


Well, it's not like every baby born from 1995 to 1997 would actually know what a flip phone was back then.

That doesn't make any sense, I remember back in 6th & 7th grade a BUNCH of folks that had flip phones at the time. My 8th grade year is when I started noticing people with less flip phones and more sliding phones or Blackberries. Anyways, here's some other scary Teen React videos as well. Now I'll admit my first console was the Gamecube, however, Super Smash Bros. Melee was a lot better than the original Super Smash Bros. and that's a fact unless you're rose colored blinded, however, I actually prefer Mario Kart 64 over Double Dash due to its classic original feel. I played MK64 many times at my children's church service when I was 5, 6, & 7 before I owned Double Dash.

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Well, to be fair most of the kids in this video were probably just toddlers when they came out!!! REMEMBER I'm almost 20, Mario Kart 64 and the original smash bros are from my early childhood!!!

I haven't watched this one yet, but I'm curious if any late 90's ones that run through the early 2000's are mentioned in this one.

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Most of the sitcoms listed are from the core 90s!! so it's well done!!

That doesn't make any sense, I remember back in 6th & 7th grade a BUNCH of folks that had flip phones at the time. My 8th grade year is when I started noticing people with less flip phones and more sliding phones or Blackberries. Anyways, here's some other scary Teen React videos as well. Now I'll admit my first console was the Gamecube, however, Super Smash Bros. Melee was a lot better than the original Super Smash Bros. and that's a fact unless you're rose colored blinded, however, I actually prefer Mario Kart 64 over Double Dash due to its classic original feel. I played MK64 many times at my children's church service when I was 5, 6, & 7 before I owned Double Dash.

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Yeah it pains me to say this, because I mainly played the 64 smash bros back in the day. But yes Meele was the best EVER!!!!!!!!!! That was incredible, playing that with my cousins from 8-10!

Well, it's not like every baby born from 1995 to 1997 would actually know what a flip phone was back then.


Honestly, almost everybody born from 1995 to 1997 knew what a flip phone was. Heck for a lot of people my age that would have been our first cell phones.

Well, it's not like every baby born from 1995 to 1997 would actually know what a flip phone was back then.


Yes they should, I was actually there in middle school, you would've been called "slow" if you didn't know what that was at the time. I was in middle school from late 2007-early 2010 and I'm pretty sure a lot of people were still using flip phones then. Maybe not later in my middle school years but earlier definitely yes. I had one in 7th grade which was my first one.

The clamshell design has also been used in the Nokia Communicator series, with the first model released in 1996. Early models were very expensive and Nokia did not adopt the traditional clamshell phone design until 2004.

Clamshells were, as of early 2009, the most popular form factor for cellular phones in the U.S. However, with the advent of smartphones, they have lost ground to phones with slide-out keyboards, and touchscreen slate phones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_(form)

That urks me as well! 'You was born in 1996, therefor you have no right to claim the N64 was your childhood!' or bullsheesh like that. Also its very hypocritical (especially for older 90's kids) for these same guys to say we have no right to claim things like N64 or PS1 (even though these things blend into the early 00's) but yet these same people will claim that 'the NES was the golden age of video games'.

Didn't you guys just call us out on claiming something 'before our time'?


Yeah, that's pretty stupid because it seems like, on average, most kids start playing video games at a fairly young age. For most people my age, the NES was the first console that we played as kids, even though it launched in the states a year or so before we were born. I was just a toddler during the dominant days of games like SMB1, SMB3 and the first LoZ, but I still consider myself to have "grown up" with them as they were the titles I cut my gaming teeth on back in the early '90s.

It's the same for my younger brother, who was born in 1991. He grew up playing my Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis, and has a lot of fond memories of those consoles even though they both launched before he was born. I see no reason why someone born in 1996 couldn't have played an N64 or PS1 for the first time at age four or five, when both of those systems were still selling fairly well. Actually, around here Wal-Mart was still selling N64 consoles and games as late as 2002-03.

Yeah, that's pretty stupid because it seems like, on average, most kids start playing video games at a fairly young age. For most people my age, the NES was the first console that we played as kids, even though it launched in the states a year or so before we were born. I was just a toddler during the dominant days of games like SMB1, SMB3 and the first LoZ, but I still consider myself to have "grown up" with them as they were the titles I cut my gaming teeth on back in the early '90s.

It's the same for my younger brother, who was born in 1991. He grew up playing my Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis, and has a lot of fond memories of those consoles even though they both launched before he was born. I see no reason why someone born in 1996 couldn't have played an N64 or PS1 for the first time at age four or five, when both of those systems were still selling fairly well. Actually, around here Wal-Mart was still selling N64 consoles and games as late as 2002-03.

Kids could have played on handed down consoles like that. Just because there are newer things doesn't mean the old isn't kept. 

What era was she referring to? ???


The aughts. She really liked the mid and late 2000's rap.

Kids could have played on handed down consoles like that. Just because there are newer things doesn't mean the old isn't kept.


Exactly, and that goes for more than just video games as well. One of my favorite shows growing up was The Flintstones. Even though it came out over 20 years before I was born, I still used to watch the reruns on Cartoon Network all the time, and therefore always associated it with my own childhood.

Exactly, and that goes for more than just video games as well. One of my favorite shows growing up was The Flintstones. Even though it came out over 20 years before I was born, I still used to watch the reruns on Cartoon Network all the time, and therefore always associated it with my own childhood.


Same here, a lot of classic cartoons that were pass down from my parents or even grandparents too were played on Cartoon Network in the early 2000's, especially back in 2001 & 2002 I remember seeing those reruns on there some occasions. I still claim those to be apart of my childhood and I see that folks born around the 40's-60's don't find anything wrong with that.

Yeah, that's pretty stupid because it seems like, on average, most kids start playing video games at a fairly young age. For most people my age, the NES was the first console that we played as kids, even though it launched in the states a year or so before we were born. I was just a toddler during the dominant days of games like SMB1, SMB3 and the first LoZ, but I still consider myself to have "grown up" with them as they were the titles I cut my gaming teeth on back in the early '90s.

It's the same for my younger brother, who was born in 1991. He grew up playing my Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis, and has a lot of fond memories of those consoles even though they both launched before he was born. I see no reason why someone born in 1996 couldn't have played an N64 or PS1 for the first time at age four or five, when both of those systems were still selling fairly well. Actually, around here Wal-Mart was still selling N64 consoles and games as late as 2002-03.


So true, I have a sister born in 2003, and I remember playing my Nintendo DS a lot back in 2007 and she knew how to play Mario Kart DS very well. No joke she knew how to drive correctly and put out items on at the right time, at 4 years old! That would be like somebody born in 1996 playing Mario Kart 64 on the Nintendo 64 or playing Pokemon on the Gameboy Color back in 2000, and 2000 was still a strictly 5th generation gaming year. Now maybe a 4 year old may not be good in story mode or platform games like a 7 year old could be but still you never know. It's proven that kids can start playing basic video games as early as 3 or 4 years old. While 6th generation was in full swing by late 2001/early 2002, it's not like everybody switched over right away on the day of the releases. You're correct that 2003 was the year 5th generation was discontinued, so everybody born in the mid 90's & earlier were definitely old enough to remember 5th generation in its prime. Especially if you had older brothers, sisters, or cousins who influenced you at a young age. I don't understand why people's memories are that bad.

Oh gosh, imagine what's gonna be like when aughts nostalgia hits it big in the early '20s. Those people are going to be going like "Proud to Be a 2000's Teen!" It's going to be even more ridiculous, and they'll be like to 2010's youth: "My youth was better than yours! We had emo, scene, nu metal, Avril Lavigne, 50 Cent, Pimp My Ride, American Idol, Survivor, crunk music, and Nickelback!!!"  ::)

I'm baby-barfing just thinking about it. My '80s-born older sister said to me this past summer "Hip-Hop isn't what it used to be.." *facepalm*


The nostalgia for the '00s will probably be centered more on kid culture than teen culture, so Baltmorian will be in luck.  Even today, the "90s kid" obsession is more centered around things that were popular for kids and early adolescence during that decade and not what was popular for teenagers.

And I agree that hip-hop isn't what it used to be nor is EDM.

Yeah, that's pretty stupid because it seems like, on average, most kids start playing video games at a fairly young age. For most people my age, the NES was the first console that we played as kids, even though it launched in the states a year or so before we were born. I was just a toddler during the dominant days of games like SMB1, SMB3 and the first LoZ, but I still consider myself to have "grown up" with them as they were the titles I cut my gaming teeth on back in the early '90s.

It's the same for my younger brother, who was born in 1991. He grew up playing my Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis, and has a lot of fond memories of those consoles even though they both launched before he was born. I see no reason why someone born in 1996 couldn't have played an N64 or PS1 for the first time at age four or five, when both of those systems were still selling fairly well. Actually, around here Wal-Mart was still selling N64 consoles and games as late as 2002-03.


Thanks! Yeah I grew up with the 5th generation consoles during the tail end of the the generation and the very beginning of the 6th generation.

For instance I got my Gameboy Color in Christmas of 2000 & my Gameboy Advanced SP for my 7th birthday in 2003.

Likewise I got my PS1 for my 5th birthday in 2001 & my PS2 in Christmas of 2003.

So true, I have a sister born in 2003, and I remember playing my Nintendo DS a lot back in 2007 and she knew how to play Mario Kart DS very well. No joke she knew how to drive correctly and put out items on at the right time, at 4 years old! That would be like somebody born in 1996 playing Mario Kart 64 on the Nintendo 64 or playing Pokemon on the Gameboy Color back in 2000, and 2000 was still a strictly 5th generation gaming year. Now maybe a 4 year old may not be good in story mode or platform games like a 7 year old could be but still you never know. It's proven that kids can start playing basic video games as early as 3 or 4 years old. While 6th generation was in full swing by late 2001/early 2002, it's not like everybody switched over right away on the day of the releases. You're correct that 2003 was the year 5th generation was discontinued, so everybody born in the mid 90's & earlier were definitely old enough to remember 5th generation in its prime. Especially if you had older brothers, sisters, or cousins who influenced you at a young age. I don't understand why people's memories are that bad.


Exactly! Of course I didn't grow up with the PS1/N64 during their absolute peak, but I atleast caught the tail end of the generation. Many people tend to forget that the years 2000 & 2001 were still solidly part of the 5th generation.

Sure the Dreamcast came out in 99', PS2  in 00', & Gamecube & Xbox in 01', but they were still regularly making PS1/N64 games for both of those years. I could vouch for this because I remember when I got my PS1 in 2001 & the countless amount of games coming out that same year.

Sure the PS2 was already out, but most people just used it for a DVD player lol. It wasn't until late 01'/2002 when there were worthwhile games for the PS2, GC, & Xbox and that meant the 6th generation was now in full swing. But even then not everybody jumped on ship right away.

I didn't even get a PS2 until late 03', and by then the consoles was at its peak in popularity.

I didn't even get a Gamecube until late 05', towards the tail end of its lifecycle

Exactly! Of course I didn't grow up with the PS1/N64 during their absolute peak, but I atleast caught the tail end of the generation. Many people tend to forget that the years 2000 & 2001 were still solidly part of the 5th generation.

Sure the Dreamcast came out in 99', PS2  in 00', & Gamecube & Xbox in 01', but they were still regularly making PS1/N64 games for both of those years. I could vouch for this because I remember when I got my PS1 in 2001 & the countless amount of games coming out that same year.

Sure the PS2 was already out, but most people just used it for a DVD player lol. It wasn't until late 01'/2002 when there were worthwhile games for the PS2, GC, & Xbox and that meant the 6th generation was now in full swing. But even then not everybody jumped on ship right away.

I didn't even get a PS2 until late 03', and by then the consoles was at its peak in popularity.

I didn't even get a Gamecube until late 05', towards the tail end of its lifecycle


You're on point. The same thing can be said for the transition from 6th generation to 7th generation (which lasted for millions of years lol). There's many people born in the early 2000's who have the right to claim 6th generation (PS2, GC, XBOX) as a part of their childood. Just because the first 7th generation console (XBOX 360) out in late 2005 doesn't mean 2005 was a 7th generation year. 2005 and even 2006 were still strictly 6th generation gaming years. May not have been the peak of 6th generation like 2004 was but those were still 6th generation gaming years when games for those consoles were still being released regularly and playing at home with your friends with a large variety of gaming was still at the height of popularity. The Wii and the PS3 didn't debut until very late 2006. I didn't get a Wii until Christmas 2007, and likewise 2007 was the first full year 7th generation was in full swing. 2008 was the year most 6th generation games and consoles got discontinued if I'm correct.

The aughts. She really liked the mid and late 2000's rap.


I, as an older guy enjoyed the mid to late 80's rap era.

Thanks! Yeah I grew up with the 5th generation consoles during the tail end of the the generation and the very beginning of the 6th generation.

For instance I got my Gameboy Color in Christmas of 2000 & my Gameboy Advanced SP for my 7th birthday in 2003.

Likewise I got my PS1 for my 5th birthday in 2001 & my PS2 in Christmas of 2003.


I grew up with the first generation.

Exactly! Of course I didn't grow up with the PS1/N64 during their absolute peak, but I atleast caught the tail end of the generation. Many people tend to forget that the years 2000 & 2001 were still solidly part of the 5th generation.

Sure the Dreamcast came out in 99', PS2  in 00', & Gamecube & Xbox in 01', but they were still regularly making PS1/N64 games for both of those years. I could vouch for this because I remember when I got my PS1 in 2001 & the countless amount of games coming out that same year.

Sure the PS2 was already out, but most people just used it for a DVD player lol. It wasn't until late 01'/2002 when there were worthwhile games for the PS2, GC, & Xbox and that meant the 6th generation was now in full swing. But even then not everybody jumped on ship right away.

I didn't even get a PS2 until late 03', and by then the consoles was at its peak in popularity.

I didn't even get a Gamecube until late 05', towards the tail end of its lifecycle


I didn't get a PS3 until 2007.

Exactly! Of course I didn't grow up with the PS1/N64 during their absolute peak, but I atleast caught the tail end of the generation. Many people tend to forget that the years 2000 & 2001 were still solidly part of the 5th generation.

Sure the Dreamcast came out in 99', PS2  in 00', & Gamecube & Xbox in 01', but they were still regularly making PS1/N64 games for both of those years. I could vouch for this because I remember when I got my PS1 in 2001 & the countless amount of games coming out that same year.

Sure the PS2 was already out, but most people just used it for a DVD player lol. It wasn't until late 01'/2002 when there were worthwhile games for the PS2, GC, & Xbox and that meant the 6th generation was now in full swing. But even then not everybody jumped on ship right away.

I didn't even get a PS2 until late 03', and by then the consoles was at its peak in popularity.

I didn't even get a Gamecube until late 05', towards the tail end of its lifecycle

EXACTLY. I got my N64 in 1999, Gameboy color in 1999, Dreamcasr in 2000, gameboy advanced in 2001, the original XBOX not until like 06 my 11th bday.
I got my Ps2 2002/2003ish. The irony is that's when the 6th gen peaked in popularity. I remember, especially where I lived, 2001 was STILL pretty much 5th gen. Hell the generation was discontinued in 2003!!! So; in the early 00s, kids around me were playing with both 5th and 6th gen systems during those years, primary kindergarten and 1st grade!

You're on point. The same thing can be said for the transition from 6th generation to 7th generation (which lasted for millions of years lol). There's many people born in the early 2000's who have the right to claim 6th generation (PS2, GC, XBOX) as a part of their childood. Just because the first 7th generation console (XBOX 360) out in late 2005 doesn't mean 2005 was a 7th generation year. 2005 and even 2006 were still strictly 6th generation gaming years. May not have been the peak of 6th generation like 2004 was but those were still 6th generation gaming years when games for those consoles were still being released regularly and playing at home with your friends with a large variety of gaming was still at the height of popularity. The Wii and the PS3 didn't debut until very late 2006. I didn't get a Wii until Christmas 2007, and likewise 2007 was the first full year 7th generation was in full swing. 2008 was the year most 6th generation games and consoles got discontinued if I'm correct.

I could have gotten a Wii , Christmas of 06, but I chose the original XBOX. :)  The Wii seemed like a MAJOR downgrade from the gamecube. 8-P  As a matter of fact the original XBOX is the final system I associate with my childhood. If I had gotten the Wii that Christmas it would have been a different story! ;)

I didn't get a PS3 until 2006.

That was it's launch year!! ;D  I did not even get mine until 2009 Christmas.

Same here, a lot of classic cartoons that were pass down from my parents or even grandparents too were played on Cartoon Network in the early 2000's, especially back in 2001 & 2002 I remember seeing those reruns on there some occasions. I still claim those to be apart of my childhood and I see that folks born around the 40's-60's don't find anything wrong with that.

I like to associate the loony tunes, Tom & Jerry, and Classic Disney cartoons with my kids years as well, since I watched them on CN and Zoog Disney vault; even though it was mainly my grandparents generation, I myself even associates the Disney afternoon shows with my childhood, since I watched those reruns on Toon Disney kindergarten-2nd grade.

The aughts. She really liked the mid and late 2000's rap.

WOW!! :-\\  Seriously? ??? I figured she would prefer the glam and bling bling rap of the early 00s more than that outdated crank and snap rap music. 8-P

but yet these same people will claim that 'the NES was the golden age of video games'.

To be fair, They were the youngest to play with the NES. It lasted in popularity till 1990/91.

WOW!! :-\\  Seriously? ??? I figured she would prefer the glam and bling bling rap of the early 00s more than that outdated crank and snap rap music. 8-P


Well, she was in her 20's when that happened, so that's what she's gonna like most as that is how her tastes formed. This link explains everything based on age-based music listening preferences:

http://m.mic.com/articles/96266/there-s-a-magic-age-when-you-find-your-musical-taste-according-to-science

Going by this then our musical tastes have yet to peak, since we're the same age and we're both not even 20 years old yet.

I could have gotten a Wii , Christmas of 06, but I chose the original XBOX. :)  The Wii seemed like a MAJOR downgrade from the gamecube. 8-P  As a matter of fact the original XBOX is the final system I associate with my childhood. If I had gotten the Wii that Christmas it would have been a different story! ;)


What do you have now?

That was it's launch year!! ;D  I did not even get mine until 2009 Christmas.


I just decided to trade in my PS2 for an upgrade to PS3 and the PS3 offered me more.

The nostalgia for the '00s will probably be centered more on kid culture than teen culture, so Baltmorian will be in luck.  Even today, the "90s kid" obsession is more centered around things that were popular for kids and early adolescence during that decade and not what was popular for teenagers.

And I agree that hip-hop isn't what it used to be nor is EDM.


Probably in the early 2020's, but the second half of the '20s will most likely be revolved around the stuff that your generation was into. We're already moving away from the '90s kid thing and we're gradually moving towards what was big among Generation X. And besides, why should it be centered around the kid culture? Why not the adult stuff?

It depends. If you mean '00s hip-hop then I really don't want that back. EDM was barely around in the aughts. Now, I do like gangsta rap, conscious hip-hop, and hip-hop soul ('90s genres) and I do want them to come back. Ditto for eurodance, house, and freestyle.

Probably in the early 2020's, but the second half of the '20s will most likely be revolved around the stuff that your generation was into. We're already moving away from the '90s kid thing and we're gradually moving towards what was big among Generation X. And besides, why should it be centered around the kid culture? Why not the adult stuff?

It depends. If you mean '00s hip-hop then I really don't want that back. EDM was barely around in the aughts. Now, I do like gangsta rap, conscious hip-hop, and hip-hop soul ('90s genres) and I do want them to come back. Ditto for eurodance, house, and freestyle.


Because some teenagers (like me) are already nostalgic about their childhood, and they just feel like they want to be to that decade they grew up with.

On the Internet right now, there's a war between 90s and 2000s kids. Since those 90s elitists are spreading nonsense about their decade being the best, despite most of them being children back in the decade, and their pop culture geared towards them is just corny. I like the 90s a little bit. I wouldn't really wish to experience the 90s (except for 1999, which is where 2000s culture started to rise). But, it seems like they praise the 90s like it's the best decade ever, despite having at least a few tragic events happening during the decade (e.g. 1993 WTC bombing, O.J. Simpson murder case, Gulf War, 1991 Rodney King beating). Face it, there's no perfect decade. There's no decade where they had perfect equality, a perfect economy, world peace and perfect sorts of entertainment. Why do they still talk about this? Why? It's been almost a decade since 90s kids plagued the Internet, and no one seems to stand up for them.

To answer my own question, I can't stand 90s kids. They're pretty much an old topic that was only good in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Now, it just seems like 2000s nostalgia is starting to kick them in the ass. So, do you guys agree or disagree with me on this one?


I can't fathom how anyone is nostalgic for the late '90s in this decade.


New in 1997:

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Still here today:

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I can't fathom how anyone is nostalgic for the late '90s in this decade.


New in 1997:

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Still here today:

https://raisethemwell.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/multisag.jpg


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So, teens today would still wear some 90s trends? I guess this decade is running out of ideas for trends.

I can't fathom how anyone is nostalgic for the late '90s in this decade.


New in 1997:

https://raisethemwell.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/multisag.jpg


Still here today:

https://raisethemwell.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/multisag.jpg


8-P


Sagging has actually gone down in popularity since 2011ish. Most guys typically (yes that includes guys into the urban look) have their pants in normal form now.

Sagging has actually gone down in popularity since 2011ish. Most guys typically (yes that includes guys into the urban look) have their pants in normal form now.


Really? I see some people sagging their pants, and it's almost late 2015.

Really? I see some people sagging their pants, and it's almost late 2015.


Emphasis on "Some". Most people I know (even the swaggies) are trying to imitate the hipster look which generally keeps pants around their waists. The trend hasn't died, but it's as relevant for guys as flared jeans are for girls

Emphasis on "Some". Most people I know (even the swaggies) are trying to imitate the hipster look which generally keeps pants around their waists. The trend hasn't died, but it's as relevant for guys as flared jeans are for girls


:( Well, it's not like I actually give a crap about this decade's pop culture and trends.

Emphasis on "Some". Most people I know (even the swaggies) are trying to imitate the hipster look which generally keeps pants around their waists. The trend hasn't died, but it's as relevant for guys as flared jeans are for girls


Remember back in the late 2000's and early 2010's, the "Ralph Lauren POLO SWAG", "Rocawear SWAG", "Nike SWAG", "Aeropostale SWAG", "Levi's SWAG", etc. thing that was going on. When name brands was a huge thing in a certain style you'd have those clothes on. Like depending on the culture you were apart of you'd wear that Ralph Lauren polo a certain way. You make sure the color of your undershirt matched the color of the Ralph Lauren polo sign on your shirt and you'd have your polo shirt buttoned halfway so the undershirt would show. Sometimes you wouldn't wear an undershirt under the polo shirt, or tuck in it, or you would button the polo shirt all the way. If you had Rocawear pants or another brand, you'd sag those so the logos would be showing, but with Levi's you'd probably wouldn't do that unless you wanted to. All of this has gone downhill since 2012 or 2013 and people have been wearing whatever they want to now, or in a hipster style. You're correct.

So, teens today would still wear some 90s trends? I guess this decade is running out of ideas for trends.


It was a '00s trend introduced in the '90s.

It was a '00s trend introduced in the '90s.


Even though they're still keeping it as of today.

I can't fathom how anyone is nostalgic for the late '90s in this decade.


New in 1997:

https://raisethemwell.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/multisag.jpg


Still here today:

https://raisethemwell.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/multisag.jpg


8-P


I don't know why they find this style cool?  ::)

:( Well, it's not like I actually give a crap about this decade's pop culture and trends.


I'm in the same boat as you.

Remember back in the late 2000's and early 2010's, the "Ralph Lauren POLO SWAG", "Rocawear SWAG", "Nike SWAG", "Aeropostale SWAG", "Levi's SWAG", etc. thing that was going on. When name brands was a huge thing in a certain style you'd have those clothes on. Like depending on the culture you were apart of you'd wear that Ralph Lauren polo a certain way. You make sure the color of your undershirt matched the color of the Ralph Lauren polo sign on your shirt and you'd have your polo shirt buttoned halfway so the undershirt would show. Sometimes you wouldn't wear an undershirt under the polo shirt, or tuck in it, or you would button the polo shirt all the way. If you had Rocawear pants or another brand, you'd sag those so the logos would be showing, but with Levi's you'd probably wouldn't do that unless you wanted to. All of this has gone downhill since 2012 or 2013 and people have been wearing whatever they want to now, or in a hipster style. You're correct.


This is true! Name brands in general (with the exception of Forever 21) have fallen down BIG TIME! I actually remember throughout my middle school years in the late 00's and a good chunk of my high school years in the early 10's, when if you didn't wear Abercrombie & Fitch (this was mostly for girls though), Hollister(especially those Neon Hollister shirts), Aero, American Eagle, Forever 21, Ecko (especially Ecko hoodies), or Ed Hardy (especially the Ed Hardy T shirts with rhinestone embellished on it) you were considered uncool.

However That all changed throughout the 2012-2013 school year. I actually vividly remember stuff like American Eagle, Aero & Hollister still being cool for much of 2012-2013 school year (not so much Abercrombie though...). However towards the second half of the school year I noticed more and more kids ditching the prep look of the 2000's & early 10's, or their various trends from their subcultures; in favor of the growing popularity of the hipster look. Most of the emo/scene kids were already starting to imitate the indie look. Plus the swaggies (while still wearing obnoxious snap backs lol) were not sagging their pants as much as before.

By 2013-2014, we were officially in the 10's (fashion wise) as pratically all the former cliques; scenes, preps, gangstas, skaters, etc; just said 'screw it!' and all tried to be 'individualistic'. However in a way it sort of back fired and it almost seems like everybody is trying to be a hipster these days. Me and ArticFox both notice, you could check out what we are refferring to here:

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=52142.0

Its a very interesting forum post I suggest you guys check out!

Even though they're still keeping it as of today.


True, but I don't think it will around for much longer.

Actually, I find that I can relate fairly well to mid '90s babies these days, even as an '87er. I've met a couple guys born in 1995 and '96 through my work, and we get along just fine. They can't really relate to earlier '90s fads like pogs or 16-bit gaming, but we talk about alot of the stuff I was into as a preteen/teen like Toonami, WWF/WCW wrestling, Pokemon, the N64, etc.

Even for people as much as 8 years older than you, there can still be some "overlap" between their late childhood years and your early childhood years. It reminds me of back when I got my first job, and the guy I worked with was born in 1979 and considerably older than me. At first I thought we wouldn't have much in common, but we were able to get closer thanks to some shared experiences from his early '90s middle school days like playing NES and watching "Disney Afternoon" shows like Ducktales and Darkwing Duck.
This. Now I wasn't born in the mid 90s, but just like the others have said, I can relate to you late 80s babies very well. I have a few friends born in that period and there wasn't that many differences between me and them at all. In fact, we can relate to being an adolescent during the 00s; we all remember a time on Nickelodeon before Spongebob; heck, I can even relate to them on doing more activities as a kid than just being inside watching TV and playing video games.


I relate ALOT better to you 80s babies than the 00s ones, that's for damn sure! They just feel like COMPLETELY different people.
This 100%. It just feels so weird now that those born in the early 00s are either in HS or MS.


Same. This is the era of Toon Disney that I mostly grew up with.

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Speaking of this, you also want to know what else bugs me about 90's kids, when 90's kids say that "only 2000's kids claim things from the 90's as theirs because they know deep down inside their generation is so bad." I find this quote very hypocritical. I bet there were tons of stuff from the 80's that 90's kids claimed as theirs too, like Mario, and yes Mario was predominately an 80's thing since it became big at the time first. It's been popular in every decade really but if a 90's kid come sits here and says that "well Mario is a straight up 90's thing." and they say "I love it how 2000's kids claim Mario from our time when they didn't get to experience it in its prime", then I find that to be one of the most hypocritical, idiotic quotes I've ever heard of. I could come up with other scenarios and pop cultural fads too that 90's kids definitely try to take from the 80's. Many things from the late 80's carried onto the early 90's while many things from the late 90's carried onto to the early 2000's, so that's not a bad thing especially if you were a kid at the time.
That quote comes from that during the 2000s, there were lots of chaos. Yes, they are hypocrites when they say that; however, they are correct in a way where the atmosphere had changed significantly because of the events that occurred. I can remember when the world was laid-back and we weren't much paranoid as we are now. Additionally, these "90s kids" keep forgetting that they are part of the same generation as we are. They are Millennials/Gen Y themselves, not Gen X. Heck, they don't even represent the genuine 90s kids. Those "90s kids" are just some people who are arrogant and too blinded to know there positives and negatives in all decades. There is a huge difference between them.


See people, how there was already nostalgia for the 90's going on as early as Spring 2006, believe it or not, as long as I've been on the internet, there's hardly been any 80's nostalgia or 80's kids making fun of the 90's decade as much as 90's nostalgia has been out there or 90's kids making fun of the 2000's decade for a very long time. It doesn't matter if it's early 90's, mid 90's, late 90's, or early 2000's getting lumped with the 90's, people will still make sure it's related to the 90's and it's absolutely as distant as possible from the post 9/11 period or post-2003/2004 period. This thread will be 10 years old this school year, hard to believe. This might be another part of the reason why the 90's nostalgia took off too early as well. There were people saying that the 90's were the golden era as early as this time. Where do I see the 80's folks? Even 70's babies talking about how being a teenager in the 90's was such much better then compared to the time as well.
You don't. The difference between them and the "90s kids" are that the first group didn't go around telling others that their childhood were awful and theirs were perfect. Second, unlike the latter, the former acknowledges that every decade has its ups and downs.


Yeah that urks me as well. Speaking about 90's kids bashing 00's kids heres this forum I found all they way back in 2006 of 90's kids bitching about kids back then.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=787794

Notice how a lot of them don't really give legitimate argument points just, "Oh my god these kids have video games, there childhoods must suck!!!!!!!"
I've seen that thread before some months ago and it's a virus. First of all, the users in that thread are solely incorrect. Much of what they are talking about actually didn't appear until later. Video games have existed since the 70s, so that's very inaccurate.


Yes and they lie ON A CONSTANT DAILY BASIS!!!! >:( >:( >:(  IT IS ANNOYING!! >:( 8-P  But the people on there, MOST of them are just trolls who have no lives anyway.
Only those who are "90s kids." The genuine ones are totally different.




That urks me as well! 'You was born in 1996, therefor you have no right to claim the N64 was your childhood!' or bullsheesh like that. Also its very hypocritical (especially for older 90's kids) for these same guys to say we have no right to claim things like N64 or PS1 (even though these things blend into the early 00's) but yet these same people will claim that 'the NES was the golden age of video games'.

Didn't you guys just call us out on claiming something 'before our time'?
You do have that right. You experienced playing the 5th generation games and it shaped you significantly. Those "90s kids" have no right that use those statements towards anyone.


Oh gosh, imagine what's gonna be like when aughts nostalgia hits it big in the early '20s. Those people are going to be going like "Proud to Be a 2000's Teen!" It's going to be even more ridiculous, and they'll be like to 2010's youth: "My youth was better than yours! We had emo, scene, nu metal, Avril Lavigne, 50 Cent, Pimp My Ride, American Idol, Survivor, crunk music, and Nickelback!!!"  ::)

I'm baby-barfing just thinking about it. My '80s-born older sister said to me this past summer "Hip-Hop isn't what it used to be.." *facepalm*
;D ;D ;D ;D

I have to say your sister is wrong about that. Hip-hop has improved the since 2000s ended although not all today's rappers are talented. Most of the last decade's rap was cheesy and awful. There wasn't many rappers speaking from their soul, mind or even their heart. It was almost the same thing on most songs. 90s rap songs had that similar content, but they did it in a funny way.

Here an example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsRjNXSG2GY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-aVrSCU0qw

I don't know why they find this style cool?  ::)

Some of them wear more than one pair of pants just to hold them up! Third picture across on the bottom row.  8-P


This is true! Name brands in general (with the exception of Forever 21) have fallen down BIG TIME! I actually remember throughout my middle school years in the late 00's and a good chunk of my high school years in the early 10's, when if you didn't wear Abercrombie & Fitch (this was mostly for girls though), Hollister(especially those Neon Hollister shirts), Aero, American Eagle, Forever 21, Ecko (especially Ecko hoodies), or Ed Hardy (especially the Ed Hardy T shirts with rhinestone embellished on it) you were considered uncool.

However That all changed throughout the 2012-2013 school year. I actually vividly remember stuff like American Eagle, Aero & Hollister still being cool for much of 2012-2013 school year (not so much Abercrombie though...). However towards the second half of the school year I noticed more and more kids ditching the prep look of the 2000's & early 10's, or their various trends from their subcultures; in favor of the growing popularity of the hipster look. Most of the emo/scene kids were already starting to imitate the indie look. Plus the swaggies (while still wearing obnoxious snap backs lol) were not sagging their pants as much as before.

By 2013-2014, we were officially in the 10's (fashion wise) as pratically all the former cliques; scenes, preps, gangstas, skaters, etc; just said 'screw it!' and all tried to be 'individualistic'. However in a way it sort of back fired and it almost seems like everybody is trying to be a hipster these days. Me and ArticFox both notice, you could check out what we are refferring to here:

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=52142.0

Its a very interesting forum post I suggest you guys check out!

I don't know about the boys as much, but girls were given so much grief for not dressing how everyone thought they should. Everyone was so quick to whip out a label for someone wearing one item that was part of a subculture. Like you were an alternative person for wearing a studded belt or bracelet once despite the rest of your outfit and it's just WTF. Now I see teenagers mixing and matching different types of accessories and to me it looks like lines between subcultures have really blurred. It's also nice to see the downward trend of name brand importance because it really is a stupid thing to be elitist about. There are nicer outfits to be put together when they don't have some logo announcing where it came from.

I will say into my 20's I was buying American Eagle jeans out of habit and comfort because they tended to fit with room to spare and I didn't feel like going everywhere to hunt for a pair of pants. Name brands certainly aren't of better quality than the non, as I've found many shirts shrink, fade, and peel. Plus hoodies don't stay soft if you launder them and the sleeve ends start to form holes.

I will say into my 20's I was buying American Eagle jeans out of habit and comfort because they tended to fit with room to spare and I didn't feel like going everywhere to hunt for a pair of pants. Name brands certainly aren't of better quality than the non, as I've found many shirts shrink, fade, and peel. Plus hoodies don't stay soft if you launder them and the sleeve ends start to form holes.


I still wore American Eagle logo t-shirts pretty regularly up until about 2012 when they changed their style.  I really don't care for modern American Eagle.  Ironically, I really like today's Abercrombie & Fitch.  Not the logo shirts but some of the polos and muscle tees.

I still wore American Eagle logo t-shirts pretty regularly up until about 2012 when they changed their style.  I really don't care for modern American Eagle.  Ironically, I really like today's Abercrombie & Fitch.  Not the logo shirts but some of the polos and muscle tees.

I was buying their hoodies, but then discovered cheaper and warmer fur lined ones at Sears in the men's department. Theirs even have designs and patterns, not just solid with words.

I still wore American Eagle logo t-shirts pretty regularly up until about 2012 when they changed their style. I really don't care for modern American Eagle.  Ironically, I really like today's Abercrombie & Fitch.  Not the logo shirts but some of the polos and muscle tees.


Yeah I noticed that 2012 was a very changeful year in that regard. For instance I remember tons of people during the 2012-2013 school year still wearing Hollister, American Eagle, Aero. But by the end of the school year in 2013 it already seemed kind of tacky to wear name brands like that

Some of them wear more than one pair of pants just to hold them up! Third picture across on the bottom row.  8-P
I don't know about the boys as much, but girls were given so much grief for not dressing how everyone thought they should. Everyone was so quick to whip out a label for someone wearing one item that was part of a subculture. Like you were an alternative person for wearing a studded belt or bracelet once despite the rest of your outfit and it's just WTF. Now I see teenagers mixing and matching different types of accessories and to me it looks like lines between subcultures have really blurred. It's also nice to see the downward trend of name brand importance because it really is a stupid thing to be elitist about. There are nicer outfits to be put together when they don't have some logo announcing where it came from.

I will say into my 20's I was buying American Eagle jeans out of habit and comfort because they tended to fit with room to spare and I didn't feel like going everywhere to hunt for a pair of pants. Name brands certainly aren't of better quality than the non, as I've found many shirts shrink, fade, and peel. Plus hoodies don't stay soft if you launder them and the sleeve ends start to form holes.


At this point, they should walk around with just underwear.  ::)

On the Internet right now, there's a war between 90s and 2000s kids. Since those 90s elitists are spreading nonsense about their decade being the best, despite most of them being children back in the decade, and their pop culture geared towards them is just corny. I like the 90s a little bit. I wouldn't really wish to experience the 90s (except for 1999, which is where 2000s culture started to rise). But, it seems like they praise the 90s like it's the best decade ever, despite having at least a few tragic events happening during the decade (e.g. 1993 WTC bombing, O.J. Simpson murder case, Gulf War, 1991 Rodney King beating). Face it, there's no perfect decade. There's no decade where they had perfect equality, a perfect economy, world peace and perfect sorts of entertainment. Why do they still talk about this? Why? It's been almost a decade since 90s kids plagued the Internet, and no one seems to stand up for them.

To answer my own question, I can't stand 90s kids. They're pretty much an old topic that was only good in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Now, it just seems like 2000s nostalgia is starting to kick them in the ass. So, do you guys agree or disagree with me on this one?


Trust me, you are not alone.

'90s kids love this show:

https://asparkofmoonlight.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/the-secret-world-of-alex-mack.jpg

Children of the '80s and early '90s had the original:

https://hotteahotbooks.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/out-of-this-world-evie-stopping-time-with-her-fingers.jpeg

Children of '90s, '00s and '10s can't live without these "monsters":

https://personalspotlights.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/pokemon.jpg

'80s and early to mid '90s kids are fond of their predecessors:

https://gamesrevisiteddotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/kirby-dream-land-game-boy.jpg

https://mikescollection.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/bb-seahorse.jpg

The years '78 to the start of 1993 were better than '93-'99, IMO.

Trust me, you are not alone.

'90s kids love this show:

https://asparkofmoonlight.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/the-secret-world-of-alex-mack.jpg

Children of the '80s and early '90s had the original:

https://hotteahotbooks.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/out-of-this-world-evie-stopping-time-with-her-fingers.jpeg

Children of '90s, '00s and '10s can't live without these "monsters":

https://personalspotlights.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/pokemon.jpg

'80s and early to mid '90s kids are fond of their predecessors:

https://gamesrevisiteddotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/kirby-dream-land-game-boy.jpg

https://mikescollection.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/bb-seahorse.jpg

The years '78 to the start of 1993 were better than '93-'99, IMO.


I still own Kirby's Dream Land. :)

I still own Kirby's Dream Land. :)


It's a classic in my book.

Trust me, you are not alone.

'90s kids love this show:

https://asparkofmoonlight.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/the-secret-world-of-alex-mack.jpg

Children of the '80s and early '90s had the original:

https://hotteahotbooks.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/out-of-this-world-evie-stopping-time-with-her-fingers.jpeg

Children of '90s, '00s and '10s can't live without these "monsters":

https://personalspotlights.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/pokemon.jpg

'80s and early to mid '90s kids are fond of their predecessors:

https://gamesrevisiteddotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/kirby-dream-land-game-boy.jpg

https://mikescollection.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/bb-seahorse.jpg

The years '78 to the start of 1993 were better than '93-'99, IMO.


I could say that kids from the late 90s enjoyed Pokemon.

I don't know why they find this style cool?  ::)


Baggy Clothes Are Becoming Fashionable With Teens (1993 Report)


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I still wore American Eagle logo t-shirts pretty regularly up until about 2012 when they changed their style.  I really don't care for modern American Eagle.  Ironically, I really like today's Abercrombie & Fitch.  Not the logo shirts but some of the polos and muscle tees.


I like some of their shirts, as well as American Eagle, but much of their stuff is quite plain. The pants are also way too low on the waist! I want my pants to actually sit on my waist, or close to it. I will however say that their styles are far classier than what they had available in the early aughts. That stuff was just trashy.

I could say that kids from the late 90s enjoyed Pokemon.


You're right! So many children of the '90s discovered Pokemon in 1998. Then, Pokemania hit in 1999 around the time of Pokemon: The First Movie.

You're right! So many children of the '90s discovered Pokemon in 1998. Then, Pokemania hit in 1999 around the time of Pokemon: The First Movie.

Yea, I discovered Pokemon in 1999 and then Digimon and Dragon Ball Z in 2000.

I never had a bad encounter with 90s kids. I only experienced being annoyed with people born in 95 and onwards trying to claim being 90s kids, not admitting being actually 2000s kids.

I never had a bad encounter with 90s kids. I only experienced being annoyed with people born in 95 and onwards trying to claim being 90s kids, not admitting being actually 2000s kids.

94ers and even 93ers are just as much ''00s kids'' as I am.

94ers and even 93ers are just as much ''00s kids'' as I am.


If you were at elementary school at some point during the decade you are a kid of that decade, even if you spent most of your years in the previous one or if you are a hybrid. Someone born in 1991 still spent their 2nd half of 3rd grade through all of 4th & 5th grade in the early 2000's. They are still 2000's kids too, despite most of their childhood being spent in the late 90's.

Can someone tell me why people are so proud of being "90's kids?" I was a teenage for half of the decade (13 in 1995 and 17 in 1999) and I consider myself a teen of that era because my teenage years are more important and nostalgic to me than my childhood. Surely, they must of had decent teen years even if they took place in the 2000's. Most of them seem to be born in early 90's, anyway, so I don't see how kids born in the same decade as them are less "significant" when either of them wouldn't of been old enough to fully absorb the culture of the time.

94ers and even 93ers are just as much ''00s kids'' as I am.


Oh, no. I meant on another site I used to be active in. Their are these few users that instantly praise the 90s and act cocky in the process.

I was born in 1988 and I consider myself mostly a 80s/2000s kid because in the 90's I didn't listen to music except for 80's hits like Billie Jean and Money For Nothing. I was following pop culture more in the 2000's. But both 00's and 90's pop and dance music was crap. Thank god for 2008-2011, the music improved. And 2012 and 2013 had the best music out of any era I remember. :)

They can be a bit cocky sometimes, but I can't blame 'em. The '90s were rad.  ;D

I can't stand today's kids.  ::)

I can't stand today's kids.  ::)


It seems off-topic from this thread, but I agree with you. I actually feel sad than annoyed from 2010s kids. They're basically more tech-savvy than 2000s kids, live in a time where YouTube is dominated with them and they're probably the first decade of kids were they barely watch any live TV. I mean, the only things they watch are Netflix, Hulu and YouTube to keep them entertained from crap.

It seems off-topic from this thread, but I agree with you. I actually feel sad than annoyed from 2010s kids. They're basically more tech-savvy than 2000s kids, live in a time where YouTube is dominated with them and they're probably the first decade of kids were they barely watch any live TV. I mean, the only things they watch are Netflix, Hulu and YouTube to keep them entertained from crap.


They got their own technology to keep them entertained.

It depends. I don't mind someone sharing their childhood experiences, I actually find them pretty enjoyable to listen to. Heck when they brag about there childhoods being the best, it still doesn't really bother me. Its when some of them claim that everything made after the 90's suck is the issue or how some of them even think decades before the 90's were horrible


Oh god, I agree with this. They talk smack about the 80s and the 00s, and act like the 90s were some perfect decade. I don't remember any 80s kids acting like this in the 00s. Sure they were nostalgic, but I don't remember them shoving their nostalgia in my face the way the 90s kids do to kids nowadays.

I was a 2000s kid, but I have a strong preference towards 80s and 90s trends.  They just seemed so much edgier and more creative, whereas the 2000s were fairly shallow by comparison, albeit not to the same degree as the mid-2010s.


I partially agree, though some 90s kids act as if the 90s were the best decade ever. They even go as far as to disregard the the decades prior to the 90s (like the 70s and 80s). I don't remember any 80s kids being this obsessive in the 00s. I do think that the 90s were definitely a creative time, and that the mid 2010s suck. However, I do think that things could improve in the future. We shouldn't act like the best is over.

Oh god, I agree with this. They talk smack about the 80s and the 00s, and act like the 90s were some perfect decade. I don't remember any 80s kids acting like this in the 00s. Sure they were nostalgic, but I don't remember them shoving their nostalgia in my face the way the 90s kids do to kids nowadays.
This. They are the first ones to do that. Not one time when 80s nostalgia was happening were the kids of that time saying that everyone else's childhood were awful. It's sad that these "90s kids" think they represent 90s nostalgia when they are actually in the minority. It's gladly that I have encountered 90s kids who don't go around telling other people that their childhood sucked. There's a difference between them and those arrogant ones. Real 90s kids clearly understood that the decade itself was perfect (and never was) like others. every decade has positives and negatives.

True.  I think 1992 is the very latest you could be born and legitimately call yourself a '90s kid and even they are just barely.  I think it also makes a difference in terms of whether or not you have older or younger siblings.  I wonder if mid-late 90s babies who think they are '90s kids have older siblings so maybe they think they can relate to the culture because of that. Personally, as someone born in 1985, I tend to have the closest shared experience with people born between 1983 and 1990.


I actually think that 1991 is the very latest one can be born, to be considered a 90s kid, and even that's stretching it.

Not exactly. Remember that there are some people who were born in early-mid 1992 that were part of the C/O of 2011. Conversely, those born later that same year were even part of the C/O 2010. Also, keep in mind that it depends on the state, school district, and the person. A 1992 baby could have been in middle school in 2002 as a 5th grader. Heck, the same individual could have been in elementary in 2003 as a 6th grader.

Well they can. When people are in MS, they aren't doing kiddy activities anymore. They are now doing youth/adult things such as attending parties, hanging with friends in general, dating, and even working  (Yes, there are jobs for people under 16).

I looked at your list and while it's accurate, it would still depend on the state, school district and the person as it can vary.
Right. I don't why those sources make that claim. Memories can start from age 3 meaning almost all 90s babies can/could remember 9/11 as it happened. Furthermore, even if some kids can't remember the event, it still affected them one way or another.


Class years are not always an accurate way of determining childhood. From what I remember, you said were born in September 1993. I'm only a month younger than you, but since I barely missed the cutoff date I ended up starting Kindergarten in 1999. Also, I have friends born in 1994, who started school when they were 4 in 1998. I knew a guy born in 1992, who didn't start school until 1998. So I feel birth years are more important than grade years.

Class years are not always an accurate way of determining childhood. From what I remember, you said were born in September 1993. I'm only a month younger than you, but since I barely missed the cutoff date I ended up starting Kindergarten in 1999. Also, I have friends born in 1994, who started school when they were 4 in 1998. I knew a guy born in 1992, who didn't start school until 1998. So I feel birth years are more important than grade years.
I understand. It definitely depends on the person his/herself. What state do you live in? and that happened with me as well. Since where I attended school had a December cutoff, I had friends who were 4 and 6 when they began kindergarten in their respective year.

I understand. It definitely depends on the person his/herself. What state do you live in? and that happened with me as well. Since where I attended school had a December cutoff, I had friends who were 4 and 6 when they began kindergarten in their respective year.


Yeah that must be it! I lived in Illinois when I started Kindergarten, and the cutoff date at the time, was September 1. I remember my mom tried to slip me into Kindergarten in 1998, but they said I was barely missed the cutoff. I remember when I moved to California, the cutoff date at the time was December 1. In 4th grade, my classmates were convinced that I was either held back or started kindergarten late. Even when I explained to them that it was different in Illinois. Yep, that sure was fun  :-\\

I actually think that 1991 is the very latest one can be born, to be considered a 90s kid, and even that's stretching it.

I think the 2009 class in general is the latest. I never say I'm a decade kid. If anyone asks me, I just say I mainly grew up in the 2000s.

Yeah that must be it! I lived in Illinois when I started Kindergarten, and the cutoff date at the time, was September 1. I remember my mom tried to slip me into Kindergarten in 1998, but they said I was barely missed the cutoff. I remember when I moved to California, the cutoff date at the time was December 1. In 4th grade, my classmates were convinced that I was either held back or started kindergarten late. Even when I explained to them that it was different in Illinois. Yep, that sure was fun  :-\\

Me being in Missouri, August-July was usually the cutoff.

I think the 2009 class in general is the latest. I never say I'm a decade kid. If anyone asks me, I just say I mainly grew up in the 2000s.


Yeah, I don't really call myself a decade kid either.

I just think that was pretty awkward to talk about in this forum. I don't seem to like myself as a 2010s teen, but if 90s kids are going to cause havoc yet again in the 2020s, with their proud 2000s teen heritage, then we're screwed.


I don't think that's going to happen. If it does, people will be less likely to take them seriously, since many of them will be entering their 40s in the decade. Plus, it's possible the 2020s will be so good, that the 90s kids will actually enjoy something that's not from their childhood.

Damn. That's weird. I cant even understand how they don't remember the cell phone craze. They were in the age range when they were highly popular.

I saw the first one a while back and the second one just now and I wonder how they don't remember N64 being popular. There are some people their age who did play those at the end of the N64's run. I know not everyone plays video games, but people would at least know about the older consoles.


It kind of makes sense. I don't remember when the SNES was popular. I vaguely remember some older cousins and uncles playing on an SNES, but I didn't start playing games till I got an N64 in 1999 (which miraculously still works well after 16 years)

I don't think that's going to happen. If it does, people will be less likely to take them seriously, since many of them will be entering their 40s in the decade. Plus, it's possible the 2020s will be so good, that the 90s kids will actually enjoy something that's not from their childhood.


Early 2000s nostalgia is already going strong.

Maybe its just because I live in a small town but where I live the night club plays mostly early '00s hip-hop, not today's music.

Millennials aren't the first generation to do this though.  Boomers were very nostalgic for the 1950s during the '70s and '80s and some of them today still won't shut up about how great the '50s were.

Early 2000s nostalgia is already going strong.

Maybe its just because I live in a small town but where I live the night club plays mostly early '00s hip-hop, not today's music.

Millennials aren't the first generation to do this though.  Boomers were very nostalgic for the 1950s during the '70s and '80s and some of them today still won't shut up about how great the '50s were.


This is true. I know tons of people, much like me, who are very nostalgic for the early 2000's. I think a lot of the reason the nostalgia is so strong is because most people group it in with the 90's.

My uncle does that sh*t. He thinks the 50's were superior times when humanity peaked and "ever since 1960, society has been going downhill". Funny thing is, is that he was born in 1956 of all years. 

Speaking of 90s kids. I never read in history books of the 1890s kids criticizing the 1900s kids for their childhoods

Speaking of 90s kids. I never read in history books of the 1890s kids criticizing the 1900s kids for their childhoods


Not comparable. Completely different day and time. No technology on screens including TV's not being invented yet to be exposed to the mainstream pop culture outside. People were in farms and had so much duties and other things to do in life than care about that.

So the 1890s kids had no time to say that "1900s kids are lazy for riding in cars while they rode in Horse Carriages"

Culture was completely different around the turn of the 20th century.  It wasn't as youth focused.  It really wasn't until the jazz age that it became so and wasn't until the 1950s that it became to the extreme as it is today.

Why was it that during the 1940s they had 1890s nostalgia instead of 1900s decade nostalgia

Emphasis on "Some". Most people I know (even the swaggies) are trying to imitate the hipster look which generally keeps pants around their waists. The trend hasn't died, but it's as relevant for guys as flared jeans are for girls


And let's be honest, how can anyone complain about sagging (which is declining), in an era where the ridiculously lame hipster style is dominating fashion? I know we only have a year or two before it finally loses steam, but the fact that hipster fashion has gotten so popular in the first place, still boggles my mind.

Why was it that during the 1940s they had 1890s nostalgia instead of 1900s decade nostalgia


That was during the 1920s...people looked back to the "Gay Nineties" which were anything but gay with terrible economic strife for much of the country.  Still, people were nostalgic for what they perceived to be a simpler, more innocent time.

The 1920s were also the first decade of rapidly changing popular culture since the end of the Victorian era.  The 1900s and 1910s were very similar culturally, with the exception of WWI during the latter part of the decade and its impact on the culture.  In the 1920s, older people realized they were in a world that was different than the one they grew up in, fueling the "Gay Nineties" nostalgia.

That was during the 1920s...people looked back to the "Gay Nineties" which were anything but gay with terrible economic strife for much of the country.  Still, people were nostalgic for what they perceived to be a simpler, more innocent time.

The 1920s were also the first decade of rapidly changing popular culture since the end of the Victorian era.  The 1900s and 1910s were very similar culturally, with the exception of WWI during the latter part of the decade and its impact on the culture.  In the 1920s, older people realized they were in a world that was different than the one they grew up in, fueling the "Gay Nineties" nostalgia.


Yeah, that's something I always found weird about the whole "Gay Nineties" thing. There were numerous films made in the '20s, '30s and even '40s glorifying the 1890's as this simple, carefree time, but it was actually a pretty horrible decade, particularly in the United States, which was hit hard by the Panic of 1893, and rocked by the subsequent high unemployment and labor unrest. There was also the rise of the anarchist movement around this time, which culminated with the assassination of President William McKinley in 1901.

I suppose you could say that this is similar to how some '90s nostalgists pretend like terrorism in America was unfathomable before 2001, and completely ignore events like the OKC bombing, Atlanta Olympic Park bombing and the '93 WTC bombing.

I don't think that the twenty year rule didn't start until the 1970s, when people started to look back at the 1950's.

I don't think that the twenty year rule didn't start until the 1970s, when people started to look back at the 1950's.


Yeah that makes sense, especially since Happy Days debuted in the 70's.

I don't think that the twenty year rule didn't start until the 1970s, when people started to look back at the 1950's.



Agreed!

I suppose you could say that this is similar to how some '90s nostalgists pretend like terrorism in America was unfathomable before 2001, and completely ignore events like the OKC bombing, Atlanta Olympic Park bombing and the '93 WTC bombing.


To be fair, most terrorism on American soil during the '90s was homegrown.  The OKC bombing and the Olympic bombing were perpetrated by radical right wingers with no connection to Islamic terrorism.  It wasn't until 9/11 that Islamic terrorism began to be taken seriously.

I would say the true dark side of the '90s was inner-city gang violence (especially during the first half of the decade), drugs, and school violence.  Overall though, the decade represented good times for a vast majority of Americans, very different from the 1890s which were bad economic times.  Looking at history, those days were every bit as bad as the 1930s depression.  The difference was there was a rapid recovery in the late 1890s as opposed to the drawn out depression that happened in the 1930s.

Maybe its simply the much more prosperous 1898 and 1899 that people were nostalgic for?  Sometimes a few good or significant years can represent an entire decade in people's minds.  One of the most recent examples of this was the 1960s.  Most of what people think of when they think of "The Sixties" happened in the latter part of the decade, from 1966 through 1970.

Class years are not always an accurate way of determining childhood. From what I remember, you said were born in September 1993. I'm only a month younger than you, but since I barely missed the cutoff date I ended up starting Kindergarten in 1999. Also, I have friends born in 1994, who started school when they were 4 in 1998. I knew a guy born in 1992, who didn't start school until 1998. So I feel birth years are more important than grade years.


Wow. We're the same age, but I started Kindergarten in 1996, three years before you. It's definitely not an accurate measure. I think Canadian school years take people born from March of the year to the February of next year. It would explain why my class was full of '92 borns, and I'm two grades ahead of my brother born March '94.

Maybe its simply the much more prosperous 1898 and 1899 that people were nostalgic for?  Sometimes a few good or significant years can represent an entire decade in people's minds.  One of the most recent examples of this was the 1960s.  Most of what people think of when they think of "The Sixties" happened in the latter part of the decade, from 1966 through 1970.

I think the Gay Nineties were simply attractive for being pre-Progressive Age and still the Victorian Age, so the decade's culture was seen as lavish, tempered, and holistic as opposed to the decadent, haphazard, rowdy, and rapidly advancing atmosphere of the 20s and 30s.  Art Nouveau was at its height, Dvorak symphonies were popular, fashion was still opulent, and the uncommonly sincere Grover Cleveland was President of the United States - unpopular during his second term amidst the economic depression, he later emerged as a role model of dignity and ethic to people living in a post-Progressive world.

I agree with your sentiments about the 60s.  People really forget that the 60s were defined heavily by things such as these:

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Personally, I think 1962 is the most appropriate starting point for the beginning of the overall sixties.  The assassination of JFK and Beatles' arrival to America were really just what marked the start of the core 60s.  You could even make arguments going back as early as 1959 for the beginning of the 60s, due to that year seeing the Day the Music Died, a complete revolution in jazz with albums like Kind of Blue and The Shape of Jazz to Come, the premieres of Bonanza, Dennis the Menace, and The Twilight Zone; Castro's invasion of Cuba, and the first traces of 60s fashion begin to really emerge.  1962, however, was when women's fashion was unmistakably 60s, Marilyn Monroe passed away, surf rock became popular, the first James Bond movie came out, The Beatles released Love Me Do in their native Britain, Green Onions popularized the electric organ, The Supremes released their first LP, The Beverly Hillbillies premiered on television, and JFK was finally emerging as a successful president after a rocky first year.  Other things such as Hanna-Barbera's golden age, shows like The Dick Van Dyke Show and The Avengers, and laid-back modal jazz were already in bloom by the time 1962 arrived, even with 12-bar rock & roll still dominant (though no longer at its best).  I think people focus heavily on the late 60s because of its culture's continued relevance today, but the 1960s as a whole were far more complex than that, ultimately resembling the second half of the 50s much more than the 70s (even the late 60s retained a lot of the classic 60s elements).

I think the '60s and '00s are comparable in that their culture changed gradually from the previous decade and it will always be very disputed as to when the cultural '60s actually began.  By saying this, I don't mean that the '60s and '00s were culturally similar as the '10s is more similar to the '60s in that regard.  In terms of transition from the previous decade however, it was pretty gradual.

Personally, I place the start of the cultural '60s with the assassination of JFK.  Before that, there wasn't much difference from the late 1950s.  Things such as 12-bar rock & roll, malt shops, teen culture, the golden age of family-oriented TV, WASP culture, decline of Jazz, pre-Vietnam escalation, etc.  I also believe the quintessential years of the decade were the hippie/counterculture years of the late '60s, and not the middle part of the decade.

I think the '60s and '00s are comparable in that their culture changed gradually from the previous decade and it will always be very disputed as to when the cultural '60s actually began.  By saying this, I don't mean that the '60s and '00s were culturally similar as the '10s is more similar to the '60s in that regard.  In terms of transition from the previous decade however, it was pretty gradual.

Personally, I place the start of the cultural '60s with the assassination of JFK.  Before that, there wasn't much difference from the late 1950s.  Things such as 12-bar rock & roll, malt shops, teen culture, the golden age of family-oriented TV, WASP culture, decline of Jazz, pre-Vietnam escalation, etc.  I also believe the quintessential years of the decade were the hippie/counterculture years of the late '60s, and not the middle part of the decade.


Both of those decades also had:

Gruesome Atrocities in the beginning of the decade (JFK Assassination and 9/11)

Controversial Wars (Vietnam & Iraq)

Monumental Civil Rights Moments (Civil Rights Act of 64' and Voters Right Act of 65' & Lawrence v. Texas in 03' and The Election of Barack Obama in 08')

Technological Advancements (The Standard of Television, Record Players, and Rise in Color TV in the 60's; The Standard of Internet, Cell Phones, and Rise in HDTV in the 00's)

Dynamic TV Shows (The Twilight Zone in the 60's and The Sopranos in the 00's)

I think the '60s and '00s are comparable in that their culture changed gradually from the previous decade and it will always be very disputed as to when the cultural '60s actually began.  By saying this, I don't mean that the '60s and '00s were culturally similar as the '10s is more similar to the '60s in that regard.  In terms of transition from the previous decade however, it was pretty gradual.

Personally, I place the start of the cultural '60s with the assassination of JFK.  Before that, there wasn't much difference from the late 1950s.  Things such as 12-bar rock & roll, malt shops, teen culture, the golden age of family-oriented TV, WASP culture, decline of Jazz, pre-Vietnam escalation, etc.  I also believe the quintessential years of the decade were the hippie/counterculture years of the late '60s, and not the middle part of the decade.


The things you listed remained popular during much of the mid-60s as well.  The new culture introduced in the early 60s should not be underestimated; from our modern point of view, the early 60s were hardly distinguishable from the late 50s because of the musical similarities and continuation of certain 50s stereotypes, but really, the entire period from 1959 to November 22, 1963 produced a lot of things that were extremely significant at the time and comfortably distinguished the present day from the late 50s.  It saw several passings of 50s icons, between Buddy Holly, Billie Holiday, Marilyn Monroe, etc., as well as the premieres of several monumental television shows that were not a part of 50s culture.  Just imagine The Twilight Zone premiering in 1959, The Flintstones premiering in 1960, or the first James Bond movie coming out in 1962; this was a different age than had produced I Love Lucy, the golden age of John Ford westerns, and Buddy Holly and the Crickets.

I also don't think jazz really declined in the 60s; 1959 is largely considered the best year for the genre, and it so influenced a lot of music in the 60s, even if much of it simply accompanied major films.  What would the iconic theme songs to The Pink Panther, Get Smart, and the like, plus a lot of general film and television background accompaniments be without the influence of Kind of Blue?  It's because of 1959 that jazz survived as an important part of popular culture, albeit in different forms than it had been from the 20s to the 50s.  Rock and roll may have taken over the pop charts, but modal jazz was quite key to the 60s atmosphere.

John F. Kennedy becoming President of the United States was also a huge part of the sixties, as not only did he pave the way for the onslaught of Great Society reforms under Johnson, he and his wife became fashion icons and brought a sense of empowerment to the youth culture, which would later come into play by the later years of the decade; even the televised 1960 debates were an important part of JFK's legacy to the 60s.  People remember John and Jackie Kennedy more fondly than they do Lyndon B. Johnson.  During the Kennedy administration, New Frontier programs such as the Peace Corps were established, the black civil rights movement started to become especially turbulent (thus setting the stage for the race riots that occurred later in the decade), and America began to commit more heavily to Vietnam, despite the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution still not having been issued.

As I stated earlier, fashion in the early 60s was quite distinct from the 50s, especially by 1962 in particular.  With the huge presence of flipdos and bright, solid-colored dresses, it was closer that year to 1969 than it was to 1955 or even 1957.  I see the Bridgette Bardot and Jackie Kennedy looks as being more definitive to the 1960s overall than the long-haired, grizzled hippie fashions of the late 60s, which largely continued into the first half of the 70s, anyway.  They were more established in all sectors of society and not just the bustling counterculture.

I definitely agree that 60s culture peaked late in the decade - 1967 is the decade's quintessential year, in my opinion - but the more I examine the early 60s, the more I realize they were actually a vital and overlooked part of the decade as a whole, even though hippies, the Beatles, psychedelic rock, etc. weren't huge things yet.  In the same way the second half of the 1950s seems to be the only part of that decade signed out for nostalgia parties, 60s parties tend to have a skewed focus on stuff from the latter half of the decade, even though in reality the first few years of the decade produced a ton of significant culture and represent the 60s atmosphere a lot more than people give credit for.

John F. Kennedy becoming President of the United States was also a huge part of the sixties, as not only did he pave the way for the onslaught of Great Society reforms under Johnson, he and his wife became fashion icons and brought a sense of empowerment to the youth culture, which would later come into play by the later years of the decade; even the televised 1960 debates were an important part of JFK's legacy to the 60s.  People remember John and Jackie Kennedy more fondly than they do Lyndon B. Johnson.  During the Kennedy administration, New Frontier programs such as the Peace Corps were established, the black civil rights movement started to become especially turbulent (thus setting the stage for the race riots that occurred later in the decade), and America began to commit more heavily to Vietnam, despite the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution still not having been issued.


Kennedy becoming president was indeed a huge part of the decade. But the reason why Chris and myself place the assassination as the beginning of the 60s culturally, was because America was still kinda seen in that Leave it to Beaver and Ozzie and Harriet aspect. I know that society was losing it's innocence during the 1962 and 1963 years, but after kennedy's death was the increase of the civil right's movement, British Invasion, and then the generation gap.
There was also one city data user who said the things I've just said. And he was SPOT ON with his views on the subject. Similar to him, I associate the 60s with LBJ, British Invasion, hippies, civil rights, Vietnam, 1968 democratic convection, drug overdoses, distrust towards government, beginning of the new hollywood era of movies, protests, and assassinations.

Kennedy becoming president was indeed a huge part of the decade. But the reason why Chris and myself place the assassination as the beginning of the 60s culturally, was because America was still kinda seen in that Leave it to Beaver and Ozzie and Harriet aspect. I know that society was losing it's innocence during the 1962 and 1963 years, but after kennedy's death was the increase of the civil right's movement, British Invasion, and then the generation gap.
There was also one city data user who said the things I've just said. And he was SPOT ON with his views on the subject. Similar to him, I associate the 60s with LBJ, British Invasion, hippies, civil rights, Vietnam, 1968 democratic convection, drug overdoses, distrust towards government, beginning of the new hollywood era of movies, protests, and assassinations.


The thing is, a lot of stereotyped 60s culture was not even that prevalent until the late part of the decade (1967-ish) and was still relevant for a roughly equal amount of time during the early 70s.  Even during the mid-60s, society was still quite vintage; there's a reason Pet Sounds was such a flop upon its initial release, in spite of its eventual, monumental influence on rock and roll.  I won't deny that a full 60s atmosphere isn't complete without psychedelic drugs, counterculture, Vietnam protests, and Great Society programs, which is why my pick for quintessential 60s year is chronologically later than for most decades.  However, these things are only part of the entire picture.  You simply can't leave out things like JFK, the golden age of spy movies and television, vibrantly patterned fashion and interior designs, surf rock, modal jazz, James Brown, the March on Washington, the golden age of Motown, Bridgette Bardot-inspired hairdos, The Flintstones, and the civil rights movements, as they were all a huge part of 1960s culture on an overall level and, for the most part, did not leak heavily the 70s, nor were they established during any point in the 50s.

I can definitely see why somebody would categorize 1959-1961 as just a 50s extension, since 60s culture had not yet made enough of a name for itself during that period of transition, but I think all of 1963 and even the second half of 1962 are definitely classic 60s.  Otherwise, it would be the same thing as saying 1993 was still the 80s just because Y2K-era breakthroughs like the Internet and fifth generation video games weren't popular at all yet.  Like I stated earlier, the assassination of Kennedy was really more what ushered in the mid-60s, not the beginning of the cultural decade altogether.  Even with the death of Kennedy, as well as the imminent advent of Beatlemania, pop culture for the most part didn't completely change.  Things like surf rock, The Flintstones, James Bond movies, flip-dos, beehives, bangs, James Brown, modal jazz, Motown, and civil rights unrest, all prominent in the early 60s, pressed on unaffected.  Even a lot of pop music still retained that vaguely 50s, Silent Generation-geared style.

I think a major reason why the early 60s are so underrated in terms of cultural influence is really generational.  Far and large, only stuff that peaked in the later years of the 60s still resonates with younger people, while the early part of the decade is simply lumped together with the 50s for retaining that vintage atmosphere, despite the fact that society for most people was actually not that different in the 60s compared to the 50s, despite what was going on in the streets and the popular counterculture.  The sixties should not just be confined to the narrow, nostalgia-tinted view of it when really there were far more dimensions to it than just "rebellion, experimentation."

Kennedy becoming president was indeed a huge part of the decade. But the reason why Chris and myself place the assassination as the beginning of the 60s culturally, was because America was still kinda seen in that Leave it to Beaver and Ozzie and Harriet aspect. I know that society was losing it's innocence during the 1962 and 1963 years, but after kennedy's death was the increase of the civil right's movement, British Invasion, and then the generation gap.
There was also one city data user who said the things I've just said. And he was SPOT ON with his views on the subject. Similar to him, I associate the 60s with LBJ, British Invasion, hippies, civil rights, Vietnam, 1968 democratic convection, drug overdoses, distrust towards government, beginning of the new hollywood era of movies, protests, and assassinations.


This.

Most people look at shows like "Leave it to Beaver" is depicting '50s culture, but the show ran from 1957-1963, so it actually had a slightly longer run in the '60s than it did the '50s.  Culture really started to change at a much faster pace after the Kennedy assassination.  There is a much bigger difference between 1963 and 1968 than 1963 and 1958.

This.

Most people look at shows like "Leave it to Beaver" is depicting '50s culture, but the show ran from 1957-1963, so it actually had a slightly longer run in the '60s than it did the '50s.  Culture really started to change at a much faster pace after the Kennedy assassination.  There is a much bigger difference between 1963 and 1968 than 1963 and 1958.


How about the Andy Griffith Show? ;D

How about the Andy Griffith Show? ;D


A lot of people today don't realize that the Andy Griffith show was a nostalgic callback to the 1930s.  It doesn't accurately depict life in the 1950s and 1960s when the show was made.  A lot of people today reference the show as how things were in the '50s and how things would be so great if we could simply return America to Mayberry.  However, Mayberry never existed and the time period the show calls back to is not an era that anybody in their right mind would want to return to.  While there was a sense of innocence and community during the depression era, as depicted in the show, that was because of the terrible times that most Americans were enduring.

This.

Most people look at shows like "Leave it to Beaver" is depicting '50s culture, but the show ran from 1957-1963, so it actually had a slightly longer run in the '60s than it did the '50s.  Culture really started to change at a much faster pace after the Kennedy assassination.  There is a much bigger difference between 1963 and 1968 than 1963 and 1958.


I definitely agree that culture transformed more quickly during the former period than the latter, but there were still a lot of significant changes from 1959 to that fateful day.  Even if the early 60s are more similar to the late 50s than late 60s (I don't think late 1962 is closer to 1958 than the mid-60s), it still had plenty of distinct culture of its own that would continue to be relevant during the rest of the decade as well.  It wasn't just the late 50s, part 2, especially considering Buddy Holly, Billie Holiday, and Marilyn Monroe all passed away during the transition between the late 50s and early 60s.  Even the Beatles were already popular in their native Britain in late 1962 thanks to Love Me Do.  You can't say an entire new decade began just because a shift in or out of a middle sub era was larger than the shift leading into the early part of a decade.  That would be like saying the mid-late 90s shift was the beginning of the 2000s or the end of World War II was the beginning of the 50s proper.

Personally, I would say the early 60s took over fully around 1961, when John F. Kennedy became President of the United States and a fair amount of 60s shows were now on television, and ended with the President's assassination on November 22, 1963.  Still, the autumn of 1962, during which things like James Bond, 60s-style pop, and flip-dos became more popular, was pretty comfortably 60s regardless, even if it was more old school 60s than new school 60s, in the same way there's a divide between the grunge/gangsta rap/Sega 90s and the teen pop/Y2K/Internet 90s.

I actually feel similarly about the early 60s as I do about the early 80s.  Despite the election of Reagan (who's early term can be paralleled to the JFK administration from the opposite side of the political spectrum), the early 80s in general were a lot more similar, culturally, to the late 70s than the mid-80s, due to the fact that almost everything that defined the period was already fairly popular in the late 70s.  1982 may have been the peak of the Atari video game craze, but second generation video games were already a serious deal going back to late 70s titles like Space Invaders, Galaxian, and Asteroids.  Journey and Styx may have released their most popular albums in 1981, while Toto's magnum opus was from 1982, but all three bands were certainly no strangers to the late 70s either, when all achieved chart success.  Even new wave, often seen as ushering in the true 80s via MTV, was pretty significant in 1979 when The Cars, Blondie, M, and The Knack were sizzling up the charts, not to mention new wave was even bigger in Great Britain.  It really wasn't until autumn 1982 that the 1980s came fully into their own and the aforementioned late 70s/early 80s hybrid culture began to modernize.  Still, I consider 1981 an 80s year because of the little things such as the Reagan inauguration, release of Raiders of the Lost Ark, peak of the Atari, release of Donkey Kong Arcade, and launch of MTV, even though on an overall level, it was really closer to 1978 than 1984.

I definitely agree that culture transformed more quickly during the former period than the latter, but there were still a lot of significant changes from 1959 to that fateful day.  Even if the early 60s are more similar to the late 50s than late 60s (I don't think late 1962 is closer to 1958 than the mid-60s), it still had plenty of distinct culture of its own that would continue to be relevant during the rest of the decade as well.  It wasn't just the late 50s, part 2, especially considering Buddy Holly, Billie Holiday, and Marilyn Monroe all passed away during the transition between the late 50s and early 60s.  Even the Beatles were already popular in their native Britain in late 1962 thanks to Love Me Do.  You can't say an entire new decade began just because a shift in or out of a middle sub era was larger than the shift leading into the early part of a decade.  That would be like saying the mid-late 90s shift was the beginning of the 2000s or the end of World War II was the beginning of the 50s proper.

I definitely understand what you are saying here.  I think time and the significance of the cultural changes in the late '60s overshadows the early '60s, which did have its own culture.  The Beatles for instance were a truly '60s phenomenon, but there is a difference between their early songs and their later songs that come out during the hippie/counterculture era.  One could almost say the '60s were a split decade, but the second half being the primary focus of nostalgia.  The '50s are somewhat similar with most nostalgia focused on the teen culture during the second half of the decade.


Personally, I would say the early 60s took over fully around 1961, when John F. Kennedy became President of the United States and a fair amount of 60s shows were now on television, and ended with the President's assassination on November 22, 1963.  Still, the autumn of 1962, during which things like James Bond, 60s-style pop, and flip-dos became more popular, was pretty comfortably 60s regardless, even if it was more old school 60s than new school 60s, in the same way there's a divide between the grunge/gangsta rap/Sega 90s and the teen pop/Y2K/Internet 90s.


Good analogy comparing the '60s to the '90s.  I have always thought this way as well, with the early '90s having a completely different feel to the latter two thirds of the decade.  Not completely '80s yet still different from the latter '90s.

It's for the same reason I so strongly disagree with people who say the '10s began in 2008.  We don't know what themes will define the rest of the decade and in 2020 we all could look back at 2008-2012 differently than we do now.