What do you guys think? I've read variously that '80 is a Gen X year, a Millenial year, or a transition year between the two generations?

From what I've read it's on the X side of cusp, but would have more millenial traits. Transition year would be the way to describe it, but it's still got to fall under one or the other.

What do you guys think? I've read variously that '80 is a Gen X year, a Millenial year, or a transition year between the two generations?


Generation X.  The first year to be considered Millennials are the graduating class of 2000, born in 1982.  If the early '80s borns are cuspers, then I would consider them on the X side of the cusp.

1980-born with older (+4 years) siblings = more X
1980-born with younger or no siblings = more towards Y

Generation X.  The first year to be considered Millennials are the graduating class of 2000, born in 1982.  If the early '80s borns are cuspers, then I would consider them on the X side of the cusp.

1981 is first of the millenials.

Late X with SOME millennial characteristics, but still late X!

Late X with SOME millennial characteristics, but still late X!

They'd have been out of high school in 1998, which means their senior year ('97/'98) had predominately Y culture. Their college years/late teens and early 20's would have been strictly under Y culture and they would have been of age to fully partake in it. Grade school age was still X culture and they were a hybrid of 80's/90's children, having turned 10 in 1990. They really lean mostly towards Y life experience wise.

They'd have been out of high school in 1998, which means their senior year ('97/'98) had predominately Y culture. Their college years/late teens and early 20's would have been strictly under Y culture and they would have been of age to fully partake in it. Grade school age was still X culture and they were a hybrid of 80's/90's children, having turned 10 in 1990. They really lean mostly towards Y life experience wise.


When I think of 'Y-culture' of the 1998-2001 era, I think primarily of the boy bands and artists like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera.  I know this was incredibly popular if you were in elementary or middle school then, but were people in their early 20s partaking of that culture?  I didn't have any older siblings but my perception is the Generation-X culture hung on in high schools and colleges for a bit longer.

I was 24 when Justin Bieber and One Direction hit the scene and none of my peers cared for them.  Teenagers loved them though.

When I think of 'Y-culture' of the 1998-2001 era, I think primarily of the boy bands and artists like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera.  I know this was incredibly popular if you were in elementary or middle school then, but were people in their early 20s partaking of that culture?  I didn't have any older siblings but my perception is the Generation-X culture hung on in high schools and colleges for a bit longer.

I was 24 when Justin Bieber and One Direction hit the scene and none of my peers cared for them.  Teenagers loved them though.


Even in 1998-2001, there were still alternatives. I can picture Generation Xers being the target demographic of artists like the Goo Goo Dolls, Matchbox 20, Puff Daddy, and Sarah McLachlan and people like that.

When I think of 'Y-culture' of the 1998-2001 era, I think primarily of the boy bands and artists like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera.  I know this was incredibly popular if you were in elementary or middle school then, but were people in their early 20s partaking of that culture?  I didn't have any older siblings but my perception is the Generation-X culture hung on in high schools and colleges for a bit longer.

I was 24 when Justin Bieber and One Direction hit the scene and none of my peers cared for them.  Teenagers loved them though.

Probably not teen pop of that sort, but the rock songs that came out (the artist Kid Rock was popular) and quite a bit of the rap they wouldn't have been too old to like.


Even in 1998-2001, there were still alternatives. I can picture Generation Xers being the target demographic of artists like the Goo Goo Dolls, Matchbox 20, Puff Daddy, and Sarah McLachlan and people like that.

Or that. There are plenty Yers who like that music too because they were of age to really notice music.

I would say Late Gen X with a major Millennial influence.

For instance people born in 80' were kids for much of the 80's and were at the peak of their childhoods (age 7) during the last 100% 1980's year, 1987. Plus it was the last Gen X child centric year. 1988 was the first year when child centric culture was more Gen Yish since the Disney Renaissance began that year, animation in general started to enter a new golden age (which continued through the 90's & early 00's) & video games were now entering their peak in popularity thanks to the NES.

When I think of the early-mid 80's they still have that ancient, animation dark age, Bronze Age of video games, type of feel, definitely more on the Gen X side. However the late 80's-90's-early 00's seem like a golden age from almost everything Pop cultural wise, more Gen Yish.

Another thing to note is that 1980ers were the last to spent most of their youth during the X culture (albeit barely). Typically your youth is considered to be from age 11-22(aka middle school, high school, & college years).

So a 80 born person would've been age 11-16 during the late X era (1991-1996) age 17 for the X/Y transition in 1997 and age 18-22 during the early Y culture. So 1980 borns would be X/Y hybrids but slightly leaning more towards X. If you break it by school years it would probably look like this:

1991-1992 X
1992-1993 X
1993-1994 X
1994-1995 X
1995-1996 X
1996-1997 XY Leaning towards X
1997-1998 XY Leaning towards Y
1998-1999 Y
1999-2000 Y
2000-2001 Y
2001-2002 Y

So that would be 6 school years during the X culture and 5 school years during the Y culture!

Definitely Generation Y.  People born in 1980 were still preteens during the rise of grunge and gangsta rap, and were instead still watching Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and playing Genesis or Nintendo/Super Nintendo at the time.  They wouldn't have been high schoolers until after Kurt Cobain died, new music genres like pop punk and britpop were becoming popular, and the Internet was first becoming relevant.  Like people born around my time, those born in 1980 grew up with classic video games and cartoons, before advancing towards a technologically wired and cosmopolitan period as they grew older.

What do you guys think? I've read variously that '80 is a Gen X year, a Millenial year, or a transition year between the two generations?


You are more likely to be a Generation X guy, since you would be an adult around 1998.

I consider them the first year of Y.

I was born in 1974 so I'm considered Gen X.

Definitely Generation Y.  People born in 1980 were still preteens during the rise of grunge and gangsta rap, and were instead still watching Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and playing Genesis or Nintendo/Super Nintendo at the time.  They wouldn't have been high schoolers until after Kurt Cobain died, new music genres like pop punk and britpop were becoming popular, and the Internet was first becoming relevant.  Like people born around my time, those born in 1980 grew up with classic video games and cartoons, before advancing towards a technologically wired and cosmopolitan period as they grew older.


I think the fact that they were pre teens in the early 90's and teens for most of the core 90's (anything before 1997/8) is why I would consider them Gen X, but just slightly though. However a more accurate term for people born from circa 1977-1984 would be Generation X/Y or the MTV Generation

Gen X, end of thread.

To be a millennial, you had to have been in the school system during the 1999-00 school year.  This puts the birth years from 1982-1995.  Born after 1995 and you are generation Z.  Before and you are generation X.

A 1980 born is a true 80s kid and doesn't have much of a shared childhood with '90s kid millennials.  They would have been teenagers during the grunge and gangsta rap eras, a hallmark of GenX culture.

Gen X, end of thread.

To be a millennial, you had to have been in the school system during the 1999-00 school year.  This puts the birth years from 1982-1995.  Born after 1995 and you are generation Z.  Before and you are generation X.

A 1980 born is a true 80s kid and doesn't have much of a shared childhood with '90s kid millennials.  They would have been teenagers during the grunge and gangsta rap eras, a hallmark of GenX culture.


I was agreeing with you until you said 1995 was the last Millennial Year. Why is 1995 the last?

I was agreeing with you until you said 1995 was the last Millennial Year. Why is 1995 the last?


Initially, "Millennials" was the name given to the generation that was school-age in the year 2000, which I think is a great definition.  These are people who grew up during the transition from analog to digital.  People born after 1995 likely have little if any memories of the pre-Internet society.  The official definition has been expanded to include birth years into the early 2000s, but I think the experience of somebody born in 1996 who grew up during the '00s was quite different from somebody born in 86 who grew up in the '90s.

Initially, "Millennials" was the name given to the generation that was school-age in the year 2000, which I think is a great definition.  These are people who grew up during the transition from analog to digital.  People born after 1995 likely have little if any memories of the pre-Internet society.  The official definition has been expanded to include birth years into the early 2000s, but I think the experience of somebody born in 1996 who grew up during the '00s was quite different from somebody born in 86 who grew up in the '90s.


Ok, but I was school aged in 2000. I was pre school during the 1999-2000 school year, pre k in 2000-2001, heck I entered elementary school Sept 01, just days before 9/11. I think 1996 could qualify as well. Especially since most of their childhood years were spent mostly in the early 00's during the Web 1.0 era

Ok, but I was school aged in 2000. I was pre school during the 1999-2000 school year, pre k in 2000-2001, heck I entered elementary school Sept 01, just days before 9/11. I think 1996 could qualify as well. Especially since most of their childhood years were spent mostly in the early 00's during the Web 1.0 era


Good points.

Gen X, end of thread.

To be a millennial, you had to have been in the school system during the 1999-00 school year.  This puts the birth years from 1982-1995.  Born after 1995 and you are generation Z.  Before and you are generation X.

A 1980 born is a true 80s kid and doesn't have much of a shared childhood with '90s kid millennials.  They would have been teenagers during the grunge and gangsta rap eras, a hallmark of GenX culture.


No, the last people to be in the school system during the 1999-2000 school year were those born in 1994, they were in Kindergarten during the 1999-2000 school year. Plus, 1994 is usually the cutoff for Y because the internet being released in 1995 is the start of Z. Preschool and pre-K is not that much different, and neither of the two are mandatory school. 1995 was in pre-K during the 1999-2000 while 1996 were in preschool at the same time. Also, keep in mind that people born in 1995 & 1996 were the only Z members who were in mandatory school under the school system when 9/11 happened, being in Kindergarten and 1st grade. 1984-1994 born's were the Y members in 2nd-12th grade when 9/11 happened. Honestly, I feel like 1995 & 1996 borns don't belong to any generation, we're like on the Y/Z cusp side where everything pop culturally always changes during our duration everywhere we've gone throughout our lives. Being stuck between 2 completely different generations.

Ok, but I was school aged in 2000. I was pre school during the 1999-2000 school year, pre k in 2000-2001, heck I entered elementary school Sept 01, just days before 9/11. I think 1996 could qualify as well. Especially since most of their childhood years were spent mostly in the early 00's during the Web 1.0 era


Even though, not most, somebody born in 1996 would've only been in 2nd grade when the early 2000's ended, so we're hybrids of the early 2000's & mid 2000's but barely qualify. Just like 1992 when they were in 2nd grade when 2000 hit. I'm not counting anything before Kindergarten or after 5th grade when I do this.

Even though, not most, somebody born in 1996 would've only been in 2nd grade when the early 2000's ended, so we're hybrids of the early 2000's & mid 2000's but barely qualify. Just like 1992 when they were in 2nd grade when 2000 hit. I'm not counting anything before Kindergarten or after 5th grade when I do this.


I mean peak childhood which would be age 5-9. So for most 96ers that would be 2001, 2002, & 2003 which were all early 00's years. 2004 & 20005 were the mid 00's of our peak and even then, 2004 was still considered the Web 1.0 era since social media for the most part was still not standard or popular & Dial up was sti commonly used (though this was dying down fast). So the only peak year that was Web 2.0 for most 96ers would be 2005, 2006 & 2007 aka out late childhoods would be Web 2.0 as well, but it's your peak years that are more important in finding out where you fall generational wise. So because of that I think 1996 could still qualify as Y but just barely

I mean peak childhood which would be age 5-9. So for most 96ers that would be 2001, 2002, & 2003 which were all early 00's years. 2004 & 20005 were the mid 00's of our peak and even then, 2004 was still considered the Web 1.0 era since social media for the most part was still not standard or popular & Dial up was sti commonly used (though this was dying down fast). So the only peak year that was Web 2.0 for most 96ers would be 2005, 2006 & 2007 aka out late childhoods would be Web 2.0 as well, but it's your peak years that are more important in finding out where you fall generational wise. So because of that I think 1996 could still qualify as Y but just barely


I'd say 6-9 childhood can peak, including 10 for some as well if they still feel like a "kid", but 5 is debatable though, because in the year 2001, depending on most 1996's birthdays, most of them were only transitioning over from preschool to Kindergarten and still learning some basics, which is a stretch for many people, or some born in the late part of the year might have been 4 most of the year and didn't start Kindergarten until late 2002, but it depends on most districts though. I guess it varies from person to person though. I consider 2001 as the transitioning year in my life when I was transitioning out from early childhood to core childhood, and by 2002, my childhood was in its peak full time. Any years that I was out of elementary school at some point I don't consider as apart of my core kid years, that's just me. Like for example 2007 I was still in elementary school for the first part of the year but later on I was going to middle school so I eliminate that out, while in 2001 I was still in preschool for half of the year and just starting Kindergarten, so I eliminate that as well. 2002-2006 at 6-10 was truly my peak because I was in elementary school full time and most of my core childhood memories come from that time. Plus, it varies, but a lot of people still consider age 5 as the oldest "preschool" age to 2-4, but at the same time it can be the first core school kid age as well if you started school early. Like how could someone born in August 1996 be 4 1/2 for most of the year just transitioning over to Kindergarten could say their childhood peaked throughout all of 2001? But their childhood doesn't peak in 2005 or 2006? Just saying but you know its all subjective though. It's definitely ok with me if you or many other folks believe that your childhood peaked at 5, especially since you had older siblings or cousins in your family.

I'd say 6-9 childhood can peak, including 10 for some as well if they still feel like a "kid", but 5 is debatable though, because in the year 2001, depending on most 1996's birthdays, most of them were only transitioning over from preschool to Kindergarten and still learning some basics, which is a stretch for many people, or some born in the late part of the year might have been 4 most of the year and didn't start Kindergarten until late 2002, but it depends on most districts though. I guess it varies from person to person though. I consider 2001 as the transitioning year in my life when I was transitioning out from early childhood to core childhood, and by 2002, my childhood was in its peak full time. Any years that I was out of elementary school at some point I don't consider as apart of my core kid years, that's just me. Like for example 2007 I was still in elementary school for the first part of the year but later on I was going to middle school so I eliminate that out, while in 2001 I was still in preschool for half of the year and just starting Kindergarten, so I eliminate that as well. 2002-2006 at 6-10 was truly my peak because I was in elementary school full time and most of my core childhood memories come from that time. Plus, it varies, but a lot of people still consider age 5 as the oldest "preschool" age to 2-4, but at the same time it can be the first core school kid age as well if you started school early. Like how could someone born in August 1996 be 4 1/2 for most of the year just transitioning over to Kindergarten could say their childhood peaked throughout all of 2001? But their childhood doesn't peak in 2005 or 2006? Just saying but you know its all subjective though. It's definitely ok with me if you or many other folks believe that your childhood peaked at 5, especially since you had older siblings or cousins in your family.


I thought 10 was already a childhood year, since you don't really become a preteen until the age of 11. Since when did anybody say that they don't feel like a kid at age 10? I still felt like one when I was 10.

I thought 10 was already a childhood year, since you don't really become a preteen until the age of 11. Since when did anybody say that they don't feel like a kid at age 10? I still felt like one when I was 10.


Exactly, that's my point, who cares if you're biologically an adolescent at 10 or not, you're still a kid in elementary school throughout 4th grade & 5th grade. I never thought of myself as an older kid, adolescent, or preteen when I was 10 in 2006, just a regular kid as my childhood was still at its peak. I was having fun with my Nintendo DS and going on all those fun rides and restaurants at Disney World and I still felt innocent.

Exactly, that's my point, who cares if you're biologically an adolescent at 10 or not, you're still a kid in elementary school throughout 4th grade & 5th grade. I never thought of myself as an older kid, adolescent, or preteen when I was 10 in 2006, just a regular kid as my childhood was still at its peak. I was having fun with my Nintendo DS and going on all those fun rides and restaurants at Disney World and I still felt innocent.


I don't think you're an adolescent at age 10, if you're a boy. I can get that signs of puberty can catch up to girls around 10 to 11. But to boys, puberty usually happens when you're 11 or 12.

I don't think you're an adolescent at age 10, if you're a boy. I can get that signs of puberty can catch up to girls around 10 to 11. But to boys, puberty usually happens when you're 11 or 12.


That's very true, girls do seem to hit puberty earlier than boys. It wasn't until around my 7th grade year when I truly started hitting puberty. I was 12 1/2 at the time and I had gotten so much taller compared to 6th grade when I was still pretty short, by the time I was 14 my voice had gotten much deeper. Throughout most of the time I was 12 and half of 13 my voice was still high despite me getting taller.

To answer the question of this thread, I'd say that 1980 born's are Generation X/Y, but to be honest I can't really tell what side they are leaning on, it's confusing to me because I can't tell you how the culture was like at that time since I wasn't really around. However, they did graduate high school in 1998 though, which is considered as the first FULL millennial year (1997 was transition from core 90's to millennial), but you can't forget all of their middle school and most of their high school years were spent when there was still strictly X culture either. Plus, most of their core childhood years were in the mid to late 80's while they're overlapped in the early 90's (which was an extension of the late 80's culture anyway.) Almost all of their core teen years were spent in the cultural 90's years.

I don't think you're an adolescent at age 10, if you're a boy. I can get that signs of puberty can catch up to girls around 10 to 11. But to boys, puberty usually happens when you're 11 or 12.
Well actually, puberty can begin for anyone between 9 and 13. There are early bloomers and late bloomers. Many features that happen within puberty occurs randomly. For example, height can happen first while breasts enlarge later. While you and Mqg are correct on the average puberty scale, it has been shifting to where now it can start earlier than before. You guys also have to keep in mind that there are other factors such as weight, race, and disability. I read some stats one day and it stated that people who are Black and Hispanic are most likely to begin puberty earlier than whites by 1 or 2 years. That's why puberty can happen to anyone between the ages of 9 and 13.

I knew guys who had facial hair before they entered HS. Heck, there were even guys who began growing in height before the 5th grade. What's more is that I knew girls who had breast buds during MS. Just like childhood, it will vary from person to person.

From what I've read it's on the X side of cusp, but would have more millenial traits. Transition year would be the way to describe it, but it's still got to fall under one or the other.


Does it though? I think there's a chunk of years between every generation that could be considered both. There's no such thing has a hard cutoff when it comes to this, just rough approximations.

I agree with the person who said going by the kids in the school system (K-12) during the '99-'00 school year makes for the best barometer, at least for the birth years that should be considered indisputable, although if I've done my math right I believe the birth years are more like late 1981 to mid 1994. But that also depends on the various cutoff dates from region to region. Kids slightly younger who were at least cognizant of their own existence at that time (mid '90s borns) are on the cusp between Y/Z and would be strongly influenced by Y culture. The college students at the time can be considered on the cusp too (ca. late '77-81?) although most of their growing up experience leaned more X.

Well actually, puberty can begin for anyone between 9 and 13. There are early bloomers and late bloomers. Many features that happen within puberty occurs randomly. For example, height can happen first while breasts enlarge later. While you and Mqg are correct on the average puberty scale, it has been shifting to where now it can start earlier than before. You guys also have to keep in mind that there are other factors such as weight, race, and disability. I read some stats one day and it stated that people who are Black and Hispanic are most likely to begin puberty earlier than whites by 1 or 2 years. That's why puberty can happen to anyone between the ages of 9 and 13.

I knew guys who had facial hair before they entered HS. Heck, there were even guys who began growing in height before the 5th grade. What's more is that I knew girls who had breast buds during MS. Just like childhood, it will vary from person to person.


I can tell that people can go through puberty earlier, but what does people's weight and disability have to do with puberty? All you got to back up your claim was telling us that black and Hispanic people can go through puberty a year or two before whites.

Well actually, puberty can begin for anyone between 9 and 13. There are early bloomers and late bloomers. Many features that happen within puberty occurs randomly. For example, height can happen first while breasts enlarge later. While you and Mqg are correct on the average puberty scale, it has been shifting to where now it can start earlier than before. You guys also have to keep in mind that there are other factors such as weight, race, and disability. I read some stats one day and it stated that people who are Black and Hispanic are most likely to begin puberty earlier than whites by 1 or 2 years. That's why puberty can happen to anyone between the ages of 9 and 13.

I knew guys who had facial hair before they entered HS. Heck, there were even guys who began growing in height before the 5th grade. What's more is that I knew girls who had breast buds during MS. Just like childhood, it will vary from person to person.


I see what you're saying, it varies by a person's development, heck you'll have some people who'll be tall throughout most of elementary school but by late middle school/early high school they'll stop growing and you'll end up passing them lol, but I'm American American (black) and even I didn't hit puberty until I was 12 1/2 in 7th grade.

I think preteen includes late childhood and early adolescence. To me it's like 8-13.

I think preteen includes late childhood and early adolescence. To me it's like 8-13.


To me, your preteen years are like 11-12. 8-10 is just your last peak childhood years.

Does it though? I think there's a chunk of years between every generation that could be considered both. There's no such thing has a hard cutoff when it comes to this, just rough approximations.

I agree with the person who said going by the kids in the school system (K-12) during the '99-'00 school year makes for the best barometer, at least for the birth years that should be considered indisputable, although if I've done my math right I believe the birth years are more like late 1981 to mid 1994. But that also depends on the various cutoff dates from region to region. Kids slightly younger who were at least cognizant of their own existence at that time (mid '90s borns) are on the cusp between Y/Z and would be strongly influenced by Y culture. The college students at the time can be considered on the cusp too (ca. late '77-81?) although most of their growing up experience leaned more X.


What I bolded here is true. I was born in early 1996 and I'm on the Y/Z Cusp but slightly leaning on the Y side because I could remember:

The analog-digital transition

Life during the Web 1.0 Era

When cartoon channels like Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, & Toon Disney were in their golden/silver ages

The tail end of Clinton's presidency and the beginning of Bush presidency

Was in pre school in the 1999-2000 school year

Entered mandatory school right before 9/11 & remember a world before hand

Was in the peak of my childhood in 2003 when I was age 7, aka early 2000's


However I also have Z traits such as

Being born after the release of the internet

Growing up in the 2000's as a whole

Spending my High School years in the 10's

etc...
etc...

To me, your preteen years are like 11-12. 8-10 is just your last peak childhood years.


I go by this:

Age 1-3 Toddler Years

Childhood Age 3-11
Age 3-4 Early Childhood Years

Age 5-9 Peak Childhood Years
(Age 7 - Peak of Childhood)
Age 10-11 Late Childhood Years

Youth Age 11-22
Age 11-12 Tween Years

Age 13-14 Young Teen Years

Age 15-16 Core Teen Years
(Age 16 1/2 - Peak of Youth)
Age 17-18 Late Teen Years

Age 19-20 Partial Legal Young Adult Years

Age 21-22 Legal Young Adult Years

Emerging Adult Age 22-34

Age 22-24 Post College Years

Age 25-27 Quater Life Crisis Years

Age 28-31 YUPPIE Years

Age 32-34 Post Yuppie Years

Middle Aged Years Age 34-55

And so on (I'm not good with this stuff pass 34)

I go by this:

Age 1-3 Toddler Years

Childhood Age 3-11
Age 3-4 Early Childhood Years

Age 5-9 Peak Childhood Years
(Age 7 - Peak of Childhood)
Age 10-11 Late Childhood Years

Youth Age 11-22
Age 11-12 Tween Years

Age 13-14 Young Teen Years

Age 15-16 Core Teen Years
(Age 16 1/2 - Peak of Youth)
Age 17-18 Late Teen Years

Age 19-20 Partial Legal Young Adult Years

Age 21-22 Legal Young Adult Years

Emerging Adult Age 22-34

Age 22-24 Post College Years

Age 25-27 Quater Life Crisis Years

Age 28-31 YUPPIE Years

Age 32-34 Post Yuppie Years

Middle Aged Years Age 34-55

And so on (I'm not good with this stuff pass 34)


I think you're only going by your own personal experience. 16.5 is the peak of youth? Perhaps to you, but I didn't think so when I was 16. If anything, the older I get, the more I'm enjoying my life. I feel way better about myself and my life at 19 compared to when I was 16. Are you one of those "peaked in high school" guys?

Exactly, that's my point, who cares if you're biologically an adolescent at 10 or not, you're still a kid in elementary school throughout 4th grade & 5th grade. I never thought of myself as an older kid, adolescent, or preteen when I was 10 in 2006, just a regular kid as my childhood was still at its peak. I was having fun with my Nintendo DS and going on all those fun rides and restaurants at Disney World and I still felt innocent.

I was starting to feel like an older kid when I turned 10 in 2005. I DEFINITELY felt like an older  kid when I turned 11 in 06!

Good points.

Some good points you made too Chris! I feel like I'm on the weird cusp side of things regarding Gen Y!

Does it though? I think there's a chunk of years between every generation that could be considered both. There's no such thing has a hard cutoff when it comes to this, just rough approximations.

I agree with the person who said going by the kids in the school system (K-12) during the '99-'00 school year makes for the best barometer, at least for the birth years that should be considered indisputable, although if I've done my math right I believe the birth years are more like late 1981 to mid 1994. But that also depends on the various cutoff dates from region to region. Kids slightly younger who were at least cognizant of their own existence at that time (mid '90s borns) are on the cusp between Y/Z and would be strongly influenced by Y culture. The college students at the time can be considered on the cusp too (ca. late '77-81?) although most of their growing up experience leaned more X.

Yup yup!

I can tell that people can go through puberty earlier, but what does people's weight and disability have to do with puberty? All you got to back up your claim was telling us that black and Hispanic people can go through puberty a year or two before whites.
These articles will tell you.

http://www.webmd.com/children/guide/causes-symptoms?page=1

lhttp://www.acnetreatment.net/puberty-in-kids-with-developmental-disabilities/

Here are more articles about Blacks and Hispanics entering puberty earlier.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/251762.php

http://capitaldistrictvitalitycenter.com/blog/2015/04/why-are-girls-starting-puberty-so-early-these-days/


I see what you're saying, it varies by a person's development, heck you'll have some people who'll be tall throughout most of elementary school but by late middle school/early high school they'll stop growing and you'll end up passing them lol, but I'm American American (black) and even I didn't hit puberty until I was 12 1/2 in 7th grade.
For some reason, it didn't happen me. I began growing tall in the 4th grade and ever since then no one in my family or almost all of my friends has surpassed me. I'm taller than all of them.  Not only that, but I've been over the average height for a long time.

I was starting to feel like an older kid when I turned 10 in 2005. I DEFINITELY felt like an older  kid when I turned 11 in 06!
Same here. When I was turning 10 in 2003, I couldn't believe I was entering my double digits. It seemed from there that my childhood was over especially since I was in puberty at that same time.

Same here. When I was turning 10 in 2003, I couldn't believe I was entering my double digits. It seemed from there that my childhood was over especially since I was in puberty at that same time.

Pretty ironic and eerie that when I got to 10 and 11 I started losing interest in Disney channel, Kids WB, and Cartoon Network! And I watched more and more mature networks FULL TIME!

Gen X, end of thread.

To be a millennial, you had to have been in the school system during the 1999-00 school year.  This puts the birth years from 1982-1995.  Born after 1995 and you are generation Z.  Before and you are generation X.


A 1980 born is a true 80s kid and doesn't have much of a shared childhood with '90s kid millennials.  They would have been teenagers during the grunge and gangsta rap eras, a hallmark of GenX culture.

1982-1995... It just feels too damn short, compared to Gen X 1965-1980/81! People nowadays are even starting to say Millennials are from 1982-2000!

No, the last people to be in the school system during the 1999-2000 school year were those born in 1994, they were in Kindergarten during the 1999-2000 school year. Plus, 1994 is usually the cutoff for Y because the internet being released in 1995 is the start of Z. Preschool and pre-K is not that much different, and neither of the two are mandatory school. 1995 was in pre-K during the 1999-2000 while 1996 were in preschool at the same time. Also, keep in mind that people born in 1995 & 1996 were the only Z members who were in mandatory school under the school system when 9/11 happened, being in Kindergarten and 1st grade. 1984-1994 born's were the Y members in 2nd-12th grade when 9/11 happened. Honestly, I feel like 1995 & 1996 borns don't belong to any generation, we're like on the Y/Z cusp side where everything pop culturally always changes during our duration everywhere we've gone throughout our lives. Being stuck between 2 completely different generations.

You could make a strong argument were the awkward and lost middle children!! Even though I still consider myself part of the millenial generation! Lol

I was born in 1974 so I'm considered Gen X.

Yup you're even considered pure x!

I was born in fall of 1995 and fall SLIGHTLY in the cusp of Y/Z. Similar to ocarinafan, I relate to the Y side more WITHOUT QUESTION!
I was in pre school and pre K in the 1999/00 and 2000/01 school years! (Also due to my late birthday even turned 5 during the 00-01 school year)
Started mandatory school BEFORE the September 11th attacks!
Remember the last few years of the Disney Renaissance
Recall Cartoon Networks prime and Nicks "sliver" age
Watched Fox kids before it became fox box and abc Saturday morning before abc kids
Recall clinton still being in office before bush took over!
Got into gaming during 5th generation
Early childhood was in the VERY late 90s
Even watched WB and other prime time shows with family!
Was an early teen during the very late 00s!


Being some MINOR z traits
High school in the early 10s
College in the mid 10s
Mainly GREW UP in the 00s

Pretty ironic and eerie that when I got to 10 and 11 I started losing interest in Disney channel, Kids WB, and Cartoon Network! And I watched more and more mature networks FULL TIME!
That's what I felt at that time. The only ones I still watched as I aging was Nickelodeon and CN. The rest were shows with mature content.

I was born in fall of 1995 and fall SLIGHTLY in the cusp of Y/Z. Similar to ocarinafan, I relate to the Y side more WITHOUT QUESTION!
I was in pre school and pre K in the 1999/00 and 2000/01 school years! (Also due to my late birthday even turned 5 during the 00-01 school year)
Started mandatory school BEFORE the September 11th attacks!
Remember the last few years of the Disney Renaissance
Recall Cartoon Networks prime and Nicks "sliver" age
Watched Fox kids before it became fox box and abc Saturday morning before abc kids
Recall clinton still being in office before bush took over!
Got into gaming during 5th generation
Early childhood was in the VERY late 90s
Even watched WB and other prime time shows with family!
Was an early teen during the very late 00s!


Being some MINOR z traits
High school in the early 10s
College in the mid 10s
Mainly GREW UP in the 00s


Everything in bold I can perfectly recall too wooo hooo!  :o ;)

Everything in bold I can perfectly recall too wooo hooo!  :o ;)

That's EXACTLY why you're on the cusp too. And yes I consider you a LATE Millennial leaning towards the y side! 1997 and 1998 babies lean more towards the Z side! I wonder where kids born in 1999 and 2000 fit?

Gen X, end of thread.

To be a millennial, you had to have been in the school system during the 1999-00 school year.  This puts the birth years from 1982-1995.  Born after 1995 and you are generation Z

There are a lot of 81ers who graduated in 2000.

Here's how I see it:

1977-1983 XY cusp

1984-1994 pure Y

1995-2001 YZ cusp

I don't think you're an adolescent at age 10, if you're a boy. I can get that signs of puberty can catch up to girls around 10 to 11. But to boys, puberty usually happens when you're 11 or 12.


puberty didn't hit till my early to mid teens.

I go by this:

Age 1-3 Toddler Years

Childhood Age 3-11
Age 3-4 Early Childhood Years

Age 5-9 Peak Childhood Years
(Age 7 - Peak of Childhood)
Age 10-11 Late Childhood Years

Youth Age 11-22
Age 11-12 Tween Years

Age 13-14 Young Teen Years

Age 15-16 Core Teen Years
(Age 16 1/2 - Peak of Youth)
Age 17-18 Late Teen Years

Age 19-20 Partial Legal Young Adult Years

Age 21-22 Legal Young Adult Years

Emerging Adult Age 22-34

Age 22-24 Post College Years

Age 25-27 Quater Life Crisis Years

Age 28-31 YUPPIE Years

Age 32-34 Post Yuppie Years

Middle Aged Years Age 34-55

And so on (I'm not good with this stuff pass 34)


After age 40- middle age crisis. ;D

Same here. When I was turning 10 in 2003, I couldn't believe I was entering my double digits. It seemed from there that my childhood was over especially since I was in puberty at that same time.


When I started to reach my 30's I couldn't believe it and when I reached 40 I was saying to myself "Where did all the time go"?  :o

I think you're only going by your own personal experience. 16.5 is the peak of youth? Perhaps to you, but I didn't think so when I was 16. If anything, the older I get, the more I'm enjoying my life. I feel way better about myself and my life at 19 compared to when I was 16. Are you one of those "peaked in high school" guys?


I'm just using math. 22-11 is 11. 11 divided by 2 is 5.5. So add age 11 plus 5.5 and thats 16.5. So for most people that would be their Junior years of high school. However everybody is different on what they find nostalgic or enjoyable, so your not forced to like the peak of your youth if you prefer your time right now (which I prefer being 19 over 16 any day of the week)

I was born in fall of 1995 and fall SLIGHTLY in the cusp of Y/Z. Similar to ocarinafan, I relate to the Y side more WITHOUT QUESTION!
I was in pre school and pre K in the 1999/00 and 2000/01 school years! (Also due to my late birthday even turned 5 during the 00-01 school year)
Started mandatory school BEFORE the September 11th attacks!
Remember the last few years of the Disney Renaissance
Recall Cartoon Networks prime and Nicks "sliver" age
Watched Fox kids before it became fox box and abc Saturday morning before abc kids
Recall clinton still being in office before bush took over!
Got into gaming during 5th generation
Early childhood was in the VERY late 90s
Even watched WB and other prime time shows with family!
Was an early teen during the very late 00s!


Being some MINOR z traits
High school in the early 10s
College in the mid 10s
Mainly GREW UP in the 00s


I relate to all of these! I would also add a few more:

Remembering the Web 1.0 Era (1991-2004)

Last to grow up with VHS

Remember when physical media like CD's/Cassettes were desired

When people had boomboxes

A time before cars had wifi, GPS systems, DVD systems, heck even CD drives

Your first social media site most likely being myspace

etc.

Given 16 as the peak for teenage years, the point that a generation might identify with pop culture around that age, and that labels for pop culture span across a decade or so, then the oldest Gen-Xer would have been born around 1964 and the youngest around 1974.

I think you're only going by your own personal experience. 16.5 is the peak of youth? Perhaps to you, but I didn't think so when I was 16. If anything, the older I get, the more I'm enjoying my life. I feel way better about myself and my life at 19 compared to when I was 16. Are you one of those "peaked in high school" guys?


I feel like the peak of youth and peak of your teenage years are two completely different stages. I wouldn't put a 16 year old still in his or her sophomore/junior year in high school in the same boat as a 19 year old who could be in college, work, or the military. All of these mathematical peak ages, what biology says about your development, or any of that another stuff I don't care about. An age is just a number. Development depends on the person or family's history which is more important in my book. There's no given fact to when someone's childhood, teenage, or adult years peak or whatever. It depends on the individual person's experiences. But yeah I see what you're saying though. I consider the peak of childhood to be your full time elementary school years 6-10 (2002-2006 for me), I consider the peak of your teenage years to be 14-17 (2010-2013 for me), and I consider the peak of your youth or coming of age to be 18-21 (2014-2017 for me). However, once again, this is not a fact, and I'm enjoying college myself too.

These articles will tell you.

http://www.webmd.com/children/guide/causes-symptoms?page=1

lhttp://www.acnetreatment.net/puberty-in-kids-with-developmental-disabilities/


But it's not like those who have disabilities will get their puberty delayed. I looked through the article and what I find important is that those who have autism/Aspergers may need emotional support. What does that have to do with people who have autism, will get their puberty delayed? Hell, I'm autistic and I was okay with my puberty when I was 11. Even though I get through tough emotional times, but that's it.

I relate to all of these! I would also add a few more:

Remembering the Web 1.0 Era (1991-2004)

Last to grow up with VHS

Remember when physical media like CD's/Cassettes were desired

When people had boomboxes

A time before cars had wifi, GPS systems, DVD systems, heck even CD drives

Your first social media site most likely being myspace

etc.


I remember when people had boomboxes.

But it's not like those who have disabilities will get their puberty delayed. I looked through the article and what I find important is that those who have autism/Aspergers may need emotional support. What does that have to do with people who have autism, will get their puberty delayed? Hell, I'm autistic and I was okay with my puberty when I was 11. Even though I get through tough emotional times, but that's it.
Well that depends on the person. Autistic people aren't the only ones who are more affected by puberty. Others who have OCD, wheelchair-bound, ADD/ADHD, or even being severely disabled are also affected by it as well. Furthermore, not only does puberty get delayed in some disabled people, but it even begins early in others.

Here are more articles about this.

http://www.familylives.org.uk/advice/your-family/special-educational-needs/puberty-and-disabled-teens/

http://www.articles.complexchild.com/nov2008/00084.pdf

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As for the topic, I have seen this question on a few other sites. I have say that they are both, but they leaning slightly more X considering their childhood was during most of the 80s and very early 90s. In addition, their adolescence took place for the rest of the X pop culture. BTT the 1980ers started college in late 1998, the Y culture was in full force making their college days occur during the beginning and would most likely have finished in 2002 or 2003.

With the chart OcarinaFan provided, it looks like this.

1991-1992 X
1992-1993 X
1993-1994 X
1994-1995 X
1995-1996 X
1996-1997 XY Leaning towards X
1997-1998 XY Leaning towards Y
1998-1999 Y
1999-2000 Y
2000-2001 Y
2001-2002 Y

In the chart, there are 6 X years and 5 Y years which means that 1980 babies are definitely both, but they are slightly more X.

Does it though? I think there's a chunk of years between every generation that could be considered both. There's no such thing has a hard cutoff when it comes to this, just rough approximations.

I agree with the person who said going by the kids in the school system (K-12) during the '99-'00 school year makes for the best barometer, at least for the birth years that should be considered indisputable, although if I've done my math right I believe the birth years are more like late 1981 to mid 1994. But that also depends on the various cutoff dates from region to region. Kids slightly younger who were at least cognizant of their own existence at that time (mid '90s borns) are on the cusp between Y/Z and would be strongly influenced by Y culture. The college students at the time can be considered on the cusp too (ca. late '77-81?) although most of their growing up experience leaned more X.

There is always a cusp, but when people say which generation they belong to, they say either "I'm this generation," or "I'm that generation." Traits can lean more towards one or another, or be an even mix, but when giving it a name it has to go somewhere.


I feel like the peak of youth and peak of your teenage years are two completely different stages. I wouldn't put a 16 year old still in his or her sophomore/junior year in high school in the same boat as a 19 year old who could be in college, work, or the military. All of these mathematical peak ages, what biology says about your development, or any of that another stuff I don't care about. An age is just a number. Development depends on the person or family's history which is more important in my book. There's no given fact to when someone's childhood, teenage, or adult years peak or whatever. It depends on the individual person's experiences. But yeah I see what you're saying though. I consider the peak of childhood to be your full time elementary school years 6-10 (2002-2006 for me), I consider the peak of your teenage years to be 14-17 (2010-2013 for me), and I consider the peak of your youth or coming of age to be 18-21 (2014-2017 for me). However, once again, this is not a fact, and I'm enjoying college myself too.

Peak of any part of life is a very individual experience. The milestone ages for some are a big deal too. Personally the peak of my childhood was 8-11, peak teenage years were 15-18, and peak young adult was 20-22.


That's EXACTLY why you're on the cusp too. And yes I consider you a LATE Millennial leaning towards the y side! 1997 and 1998 babies lean more towards the Z side! I wonder where kids born in 1999 and 2000 fit?

'99 is Y side of cusp but BARELY.
2000 is early Z.

Why I say that is because it has to be on one side of the fence or the other. The end of the 90's borns are Y in name only, but culturally completely Z. 2000 was the beginning of a new era too.


Given 16 as the peak for teenage years, the point that a generation might identify with pop culture around that age, and that labels for pop culture span across a decade or so, then the oldest Gen-Xer would have been born around 1964 and the youngest around 1974.

Disagree because there are late bloomers and early bloomers, plus alot of pre teens are very immersed in pop culture. 1974 is still X, cusp being the late years.


I'm more Degeneration X

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/1/20/16/anigif_enhanced-buzz-13074-1358717058-1.gif :D

You and wrestling! I've got two words for you...SUCK IT!  ;D

'99 is Y side of cusp but BARELY.
2000 is early Z.

Why I say that is because it has to be on one side of the fence or the other. The end of the 90's borns are Y in name only, but culturally completely Z. 2000 was the beginning of a new era too.


I agree with this!

Culturally to be Gen Y you would have had to have most or a significant portion of your peak childhood (age 5/6-9) in the late 80's, 1990's, or early 00's. More specifically 1988-2003, the Gen Y Child Centric Era.

Age 7 - Age 7 1/2 being the absolute peak of someones childhood (so your summer of 2nd grade and 2nd grade itself). So by that definiton culturally Gen Y would begin in 1980 or 1981 and end in 1995 or 1996.

Depending on the definition It could be defined as:

1980-1995

1981-1996

1980-1994

1981-1997

or

1980-1996.



So lets say Gen X is 1965(or late 1964)-1980 & Gen Y is 1981(or late 1980)-1996 culturally, 15 years for both generations. Well then for Generation Y or Millennials, it would probably look like this:

Late 1980-1984 Would be Early Gen Y with some X traits

Late 1984-1992 Would be Peak Gen Y with almost all Y traits

Late 1992-1996 Would be Late Gen Y with some Z traits


However demographic wise the echo boom actually ended in 2000. Plus they were the last to be born in the 2nd millennium so they are the last of the millennial generation (aka the last to be born in the 2nd millennium).

So if we go by the 1980/1-2000 definition it would most likely look like this:

Late 1980-1986 Would be Early Gen Y (aka might be mostly Gen Y but with Gen X traits)

Late 1986-1996 Would be Peak Gen Y (almost 100% Y traits)

Late 1996-2000 Would be late Gen Y (Might be mostly Y with Z traits)



2001 in both cases regardless if its culture wise or its demographic wise, are the first true Gen Zers.



Take your pick on which definition you prefer! (Note I'm not saying these definitions are 100% accurate, but from what I researched and studied, and from life experiences these were the most accurate I could think of)

There is always a cusp, but when people say which generation they belong to, they say either "I'm this generation," or "I'm that generation." Traits can lean more towards one or another, or be an even mix, but when giving it a name it has to go somewhere.

'99 is Y side of cusp but BARELY.
2000 is early Z.

Why I say that is because it has to be on one side of the fence or the other. The end of the 90's borns are Y in name only, but culturally completely Z. 2000 was the beginning of a new era too.


Go type in "Generation Z" on google images or go to the majority of the pages. Not the word "millennial", I'm talking about just flat out "Generation Z" itself without anything added extra to it. The majority of the sources are leaning towards 1995-2009. Because the release of the internet in 1995, which is causing generations to be much shorter now due to the fast pacing and fast growing technology. If the website doesn't immediately say that it starts in 1995, they'll mention it somewhere else in the article or another link. They don't care if you remember a time before iPod's, cell phones, digital cable, HDTV's, or any more advanced technology, or if you didn't have it in your early childhood or something unlike someone born 5-10+ years after you, because the release of the internet in 1995 (the building branch) and the tragic event of 9/11 is what changed society into a more technologically advanced era we live in today. I'm not joking when I say this, you hardly see articles give another specific year other than 1995. It might say roughly mid 90's, late 90's, or early 2000's, but when the majority of the sources pick a specific year, it'll strictly say Generation Y ends in 1994 and/or Generation Z starts in 1995. As we all know, it's not a given fact when Generation Y and when Generation Z starts, because a lot of folks born in the mid to late 90's, especially those born in 1995, 1996, and even 1997 to has A LOT of Generation Y influences, and that's going to happen because we're barely any years younger than the core Generation Y group of people. Once they give a cutoff and the start of a new generation, that's when the transition period begins. I believe the reason why Generation Z starts at 1995 is because of not only the internet, it's because once you get to 1995 the transition begins. 1995 & 1996 were at the tail beginning of elementary school when 9/11 happened and were at the tail end of tons of other Y traits and witnessed the beginning of Z traits. It's all an opinion on how generations work, but the majority of the sources are leaning towards 1995-2009 when referring to "Generation Z".


Peak of any part of life is a very individual experience. The milestone ages for some are a big deal too. Personally the peak of my childhood was 8-11, peak teenage years were 15-18, and peak young adult was 20-22.


Ladies and gentlemen, this, and THIS is why the peak of childhood comes down to people's individual experiences, preferences, and how they were influenced growing up. By that logic I'd have NO early 2000's years in my peak, even me having crystal clear memories at age 7 is not in there which were one of the best years of my childhood looking back. One thing I've noticed is that when the majority of people describe their childhood peaks, I always see age 8 in there. If someone includes 5-7, but not 10-11, they'll make sure they include 8 in there. If someone believes that 10-12 was in their peak but not 5-7, they'll make sure age 8 is in there. That's why I think age 8 is like you're ultimate peak key age you gotta be and that determines what kid of the decade you're apart of. Which is why I went with 6-10 with 8 being right in the middle. It also makes sense because most people at age 8 are halfway through elementary school, or finishing 2nd grade about to start 3rd grade that year.

Ladies and gentlemen, this, and THIS is why the peak of childhood comes down to people's individual experiences, preferences, and how they were influenced growing up. By that logic I'd have NO early 2000's years in my peak, even me having crystal clear memories at age 7 is not in there which were one of the best years of my childhood looking back. One thing I've noticed is that when the majority of people describe their childhood peaks, I always see age 8 in there. If someone includes 5-7, but not 10-11, they'll make sure they include 8 in there. If someone believes that 10-12 was in their peak but not 5-7, they'll make sure age 8 is in there. That's why I think age 8 is like you're ultimate peak key age you gotta be and that determines what kid of the decade you're apart of. Which is why I went with 6-10 with 8 being right in the middle. It also makes sense because most people at age 8 are halfway through elementary school, or finishing 2nd grade about to start 3rd grade that year.

Yeah 7 and 8 are probably the most defining childhood years!

Ladies and gentlemen, this, and THIS is why the peak of childhood comes down to people's individual experiences, preferences, and how they were influenced growing up. By that logic I'd have NO early 2000's years in my peak, even me having crystal clear memories at age 7 is not in there which were one of the best years of my childhood looking back. One thing I've noticed is that when the majority of people describe their childhood peaks, I always see age 8 in there. If someone includes 5-7, but not 10-11, they'll make sure they include 8 in there. If someone believes that 10-12 was in their peak but not 5-7, they'll make sure age 8 is in there. That's why I think age 8 is like you're ultimate peak key age you gotta be and that determines what kid of the decade you're apart of. Which is why I went with 6-10 with 8 being right in the middle. It also makes sense because most people at age 8 are halfway through elementary school, or finishing 2nd grade about to start 3rd grade that year.


This! I agree with you that age 8 is definitely peak, 7 as well. Hence why I I believe age 7 1/2 to age 8 is your absolute peak. It's mathematically in the middle plus most people typically get the most nostalgic of those two years. So IMO 2nd grade, the summer of 2nd grade and the summer of 3rd grade are all apart of your peak childhood give or take by a few months.

So for most people born in 1996 that would be the 2003-2004 school year, which numerically is mid 2000's, but culturally the early 00's side of the millennium/Aol era. (Remember while most of 2004 was the core 00's, early 04' still leaned slightly more towards the early 00's, plus it's part of the 03-04 school year)

This! I agree with you that age 8 is definitely peak, 7 as well. Hence why I I believe age 7 1/2 to age 8 is your absolute peak. It's mathematically in the middle plus most people typically get the most nostalgic of those two years. So IMO 2nd grade, the summer of 2nd grade and the summer of 3rd grade are all apart of your peak childhood give or take by a few months.

So for most people born in 1996 that would be the 2003-2004 school year, which numerically is mid 2000's, but culturally the early 00's side of the millennium/Aol era. (Remember while most of 2004 was the core 00's, early 04' still leaned slightly more towards the early 00's, plus it's part of the 03-04 school year)

So for me being born in fall of 95, my ABSOLUTE peak is fall 2002-summer 04 right? ???
Since I was 7 1/2 and 8 in 2003. I guess, 2003 was my absolute peak year in childhood? :-\\  Then, cool!!! :D

Go type in "Generation Z" on google images or go to the majority of the pages. Not the word "millennial", I'm talking about just flat out "Generation Z" itself without anything added extra to it. The majority of the sources are leaning towards 1995-2009. Because the release of the internet in 1995, which is causing generations to be much shorter now due to the fast pacing and fast growing technology. If the website doesn't immediately say that it starts in 1995, they'll mention it somewhere else in the article or another link. They don't care if you remember a time before iPod's, cell phones, digital cable, HDTV's, or any more advanced technology, or if you didn't have it in your early childhood or something unlike someone born 5-10+ years after you, because the release of the internet in 1995 (the building branch) and the tragic event of 9/11 is what changed society into a more technologically advanced era we live in today. I'm not joking when I say this, you hardly see articles give another specific year other than 1995. It might say roughly mid 90's, late 90's, or early 2000's, but when the majority of the sources pick a specific year, it'll strictly say Generation Y ends in 1994 and/or Generation Z starts in 1995. As we all know, it's not a given fact when Generation Y and when Generation Z starts, because a lot of folks born in the mid to late 90's, especially those born in 1995, 1996, and even 1997 to has A LOT of Generation Y influences, and that's going to happen because we're barely any years younger than the core Generation Y group of people. Once they give a cutoff and the start of a new generation, that's when the transition period begins. I believe the reason why Generation Z starts at 1995 is because of not only the internet, it's because once you get to 1995 the transition begins. 1995 & 1996 were at the tail beginning of elementary school when 9/11 happened and were at the tail end of tons of other Y traits and witnessed the beginning of Z traits. It's all an opinion on how generations work, but the majority of the sources are leaning towards 1995-2009 when referring to "Generation Z".

Ladies and gentlemen, this, and THIS is why the peak of childhood comes down to people's individual experiences, preferences, and how they were influenced growing up. By that logic I'd have NO early 2000's years in my peak, even me having crystal clear memories at age 7 is not in there which were one of the best years of my childhood looking back. One thing I've noticed is that when the majority of people describe their childhood peaks, I always see age 8 in there. If someone includes 5-7, but not 10-11, they'll make sure they include 8 in there. If someone believes that 10-12 was in their peak but not 5-7, they'll make sure age 8 is in there. That's why I think age 8 is like you're ultimate peak key age you gotta be and that determines what kid of the decade you're apart of. Which is why I went with 6-10 with 8 being right in the middle. It also makes sense because most people at age 8 are halfway through elementary school, or finishing 2nd grade about to start 3rd grade that year.

I have googled Generation Z and there is no agreed upon year. It's easiest to say 2000 as the cutoff because of the new millenium. Plus 20 years apart in age between people and their children is at least full generation apart.

8 is when the clearest memories I have began. 7 is a little fuzzy to me. I don't consider 8 the height of or the best of my childhood. Not every kid is 8 starting the 3rd grade either, some are 9. 9 is the last year of your single digit years before you're at the age where you may be close to middle school depending on the situation.

I have googled Generation Z and there is no agreed upon year. It's easiest to say 2000 as the cutoff because of the new millenium. Plus 20 years apart in age between people and their children is at least full generation apart.

8 is when the clearest memories I have began. 7 is a little fuzzy to me. I don't consider 8 the height of or the best of my childhood. Not every kid is 8 starting the 3rd grade either, some are 9. 9 is the last year of your single digit years before you're at the age where you may be close to middle school depending on the situation.

WOW, 7 is fuzzy!?? :o :-\\  Do you recall when you were 4,5, or 6?

WOW, 7 is fuzzy!?? :o :-\\  Do you recall when you were 4,5, or 6?

Not 4 or 5, 6 barely. 7 was first grade and I remember only a few school things.

Not 4 or 5, 6 barely. 7 was first grade and I remember only a few school things.

Probably because it was longer ago than when I was 4, 5, 6, or 7! ;)  OR maybe my memory is really good. :)  I recall ALL of those years greatly! 8)

Not 4 or 5, 6 barely. 7 was first grade and I remember only a few school things.


Honestly my memories before I turned 6 in 2002 are all fuzzy and blurry. Age 6 & up is crystal clear to me, like all the pop culture geared towards kids, TV shows, movies, cartoons, etc. I watched, I can remember all of it when I was 6 years old easily back in 2002. When I was 5 in 2001 I know I got into some stuff but it's faint and I barely remember it. Like I remember spending the night with my cousins in Mississippi in Spring 2001, my 5th birthday at Chuck Cheeses, Vacation Bible Summer School 2001, my first day of Kindergarten, my first time ever watching Cartoon Network, my first day at my Grandma's new house, when my parents replaced the CRT-TV with a big huge screen TV, and all of that other stuff in 2001 I did but it's not as clear to me, it's fuzzy. 2002 is like crystal clear to me and I can recall everything I did throughout that year. The family events like my aunts wedding, Spring Break 2002 when I was sick from Kindergarten for 2 weeks and I went to Sarasota, FL for my first beach trip ever my whole life, I played Flag Football, all the Lego toys I built, how gold Cartoon Network was throughout that year, and all the movies I saw at the theaters crystal clearly throughout 2002. I was 5 to 6 in Kindergarten, 6 to 7 in 1st grade, 7 to 8 in 2nd grade, and 8 to 9 in 3rd grade. I feel like how well I can remember when I was 8 years old is not that much different from how well I can remember being 6 & 7. However, age 9 & 10 is a lot clearer to me than 6-8. I can understand age 6 can be tough for some people, but I'm extremely surprised you can't remember when you were 7 well. That sounds like yesterday to me. When I talk about memories, it doesn't have to be extremely vivid, as time goes on you may not think about those times and it becomes faint, but as long as you can remember the movies you saw as a kid, the pop culture geared towards kids, the field trips you went on during your elementary school years, the toys you played with, etc. then you're find in my book. Honestly when it comes to my experiences, age 10 for me in 2006 was the highest peak of my childhood when it comes to my personal life and all the activities & vacations (like Disney World) I went to throughout that Summer. I have a 3 page essay on why Summer 2006 was the best summer of my life when I was 10. However, when it comes to the pop culture geared towards kids, movies, toys, and TV shows/cartoons I watched and loved as a kid, then that definitely goes to age 7 in 2003 for me, I have so many fun memories from at the time. I understand memories and best highlights varies from person to person though.

I have googled Generation Z and there is no agreed upon year. It's easiest to say 2000 as the cutoff because of the new millenium. Plus 20 years apart in age between people and their children is at least full generation apart.

8 is when the clearest memories I have began. 7 is a little fuzzy to me. I don't consider 8 the height of or the best of my childhood. Not every kid is 8 starting the 3rd grade either, some are 9. 9 is the last year of your single digit years before you're at the age where you may be close to middle school depending on the situation.


If there's no agreed year, like I said some comment or somebody will mention roughly mid 90's, late 90's, or early 2000's somewhere else, and yes it's all an opinion where Y ends and where Z starts, however, when most sources give a specific year for the "Generation Z" term itself, most are leaning towards 1995. Even most of the google images say 1995-2009 when you type in plain "Generation Z". Really whether 2000 is the end of the the 90's, start of 2000's decade, end of 20th century, start of 21st century or not. 1999 is just a number, 2000 is just a number, 2001 is just a number, and so on. It's really about when the culture was relevant and when it changed, and most sources say that the release of the internet in 1995 and the tragic event of 9/11 is what changed society into a more over technologically advanced world. Most core Generation Y members were born before the internet was released and/or were already in grade school for some time when 9/11 happened old enough to have vivid memories of it. But yeah, most sources are hostile for when Y starts and Z ends, but as of now, in the future most businesses are leaning towards 1995-2009 until further notice. Once kids born in the 2000's decade start graduating in the late 2010's-mid 2020's, then the generation gaps might become less noticeable but we'll have to see in due time. I was born in 1996 BTW, and I have to go through this excruciating pain of sources and websites telling me that I'm apart of Generation Z and not Y, I'm not ashamed of it. Honestly I feel like a Y/Z cusp hybrid. I look at Generation Y stereotypes, I relate half n' half with it but not all of it. Then I look at Generation Z stereotypes and it's HORRIBLE what they give us, they treat us like we're so bad or something and I'm like I didn't have all these tablets or iPhones when I was 9 years old. However, I do relate to some, like growing up in the 2000's decade only, or being born after the release of the internet. But in the end we just have to see how it goes. I strongly disagree with the way Generation Z is set up, I think the cutoff for Generation Y should be after whoever was in mandatory school when 9/11 happened, or whoever was born before 9/11, but as I said nothing we can do about it for now.

I agree with this!

So lets say Gen X is 1965(or late 1964)-1980 & Gen Y is 1981(or late 1980)-1996 culturally, 15 years for both generations. Well then for Generation Y or Millennials, it would probably look like this:


Actually 16 years. 1980 is 15 years after 1965. So if 1965 is the first year, and 1980 is last, then the span would be 16 years.

Actually 16 years. 1980 is 15 years after 1965. So if 1965 is the first year, and 1980 is last, then the span would be 16 years.


Yeah your right!

Disagree because there are late bloomers and early bloomers, plus alot of pre teens are very immersed in pop culture. 1974 is still X, cusp being the late years.


Hence, '64 to '74.

Here's another way of looking at it:

Boomers: 1946-1964

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers

Gen X: early '60s to early '80s, '65 to '84, '61 to '81, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X

Gen Y: early '80s to early 200s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials

To avoid the overlap, and given

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation#List_of_generations

we can have 15 years for Boomers or add WW2:

Boomers: 1946-1960 or 1941-1960

Gen X: 1961-1980

Gen Y: 1981-2000

Finally, most members of Degeneration X are from Gen X.

Here's another way of looking at it:

Boomers: 1946-1964

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers

Gen X: early '60s to early '80s, '65 to '84, '61 to '81, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X

Gen Y: early '80s to early 200s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials

To avoid the overlap, and given

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation#List_of_generations

we can have 15 years for Boomers or add WW2:

Boomers: 1946-1960 or 1941-1960

Gen X: 1961-1980

Gen Y: 1981-2000

Finally, most members of Degeneration X are from Gen X.


Thats a interesting way of dividing it! You could also do it like this:

b. 1965-1969 - Early Gen X/Main Brat Pack Generation

b. 1970-1975 - Core Gen X/Main Heathers Generation

b. 1976-1980 - Late Gen X/Main Clueless Generation

b. 1981-1985 - Early Gen Y/Main American Pie Generation

b. 1986-1991 - Core Gen Y/Main Mean Girls Generation

b. 1992-1996 - Late Gen Y/Main Twilight Generation

b. 1997-2001 - Early Gen Z/Main Hunger Games Generation

b. 2002 & After Pure Z

I usually set aside two decades for each generation (generally the min. time in which individuals start raising a family), making up five decades for the previous century. Thus, we'd have something like the Lost Generation, followed by the Silent Ones, the Boomers, Gen-Xers, and Millennials.

Thats a interesting way of dividing it! You could also do it like this:

b. 1965-1969 - Early Gen X/Main Brat Pack Generation

b. 1970-1975 - Core Gen X/Main Heathers Generation

b. 1976-1980 - Late Gen X/Main Clueless Generation

b. 1981-1985 - Early Gen Y/Main American Pie Generation

b. 1986-1991 - Core Gen Y/Main Mean Girls Generation

b. 1992-1996 - Late Gen Y/Main Twilight Generation

b. 1997-2001 - Early Gen Z/Main Hunger Games Generation

b. 2002 & After Pure Z


So I would be The Heathers Generation? ???

Thats a interesting way of dividing it! You could also do it like this:

b. 1965-1969 - Early Gen X/Main Brat Pack Generation

b. 1970-1975 - Core Gen X/Main Heathers Generation

b. 1976-1980 - Late Gen X/Main Clueless Generation

b. 1981-1985 - Early Gen Y/Main American Pie Generation

b. 1986-1991 - Core Gen Y/Main Mean Girls Generation

b. 1992-1996 - Late Gen Y/Main Twilight Generation

b. 1997-2001 - Early Gen Z/Main Hunger Games Generation

b. 2002 & After Pure Z


Lol this is pretty cool but honestly I couldn't get into the Twilight series though. It's cool and all but it wasn't my favorite and I dazed off after the first movie. Even I enjoyed Harry Potter much better than those. I honestly enjoy the Hunger Games Trilogy much better and I'm looking forward to Mocking Jay Part 2 this November!

I think I've already mentioned this before, but to me anybody who was in mandatory school when 9/11 happened should automatically qualify as Generation Y. I don't understand why most sources don't go with this but honestly that's how I think it should be. However, the truth is no matter what our opinions are about the generations, is that all over the internet the most accurate sources, websites, and images cutoff Generation Y at 1994 and starts Generation Z at 1995 because of the release of the internet, and I'm not talking about the word "millennial" I'm talking about when it strictly uses the terms "Generation Y" or "Generation Z". If the website doesn't immediately say it starts at 1995, it'll make sure it's mentioned somewhere else right away. Most businesses and accurate information are leaning towards Generation X as 1965-1979, Generation Y as 1980-1994, and Generation Z as 1995-2009, which are all 15 year periods.

Thats a interesting way of dividing it! You could also do it like this:

b. 1965-1969 - Early Gen X/Main Brat Pack Generation

b. 1970-1975 - Core Gen X/Main Heathers Generation

b. 1976-1980 - Late Gen X/Main Clueless Generation

b. 1981-1985 - Early Gen Y/Main American Pie Generation

b. 1986-1991 - Core Gen Y/Main Mean Girls Generation

b. 1992-1996 - Late Gen Y/Main Twilight Generation

b. 1997-2001 - Early Gen Z/Main Hunger Games Generation

b. 2002 & After Pure Z


Um no. As someone born in 1995 I HATE Twilight! It's so stupid! As a matter of fact, I associate Twilight with people born in the 80s/early 90s. There were many girls I knew who were around my age who didn't care for Twilight at all. I'm definitely part of the Hunger Games generation. I'd probably say the 1997-2001 group is more Divergent than Hunger Games (mid '90s babies), even though I like that too.

Other than that I pretty much agree with the list except I'd move 1975 over to the late Generation X group as part of the Main Clueless Generation.

Um no. As someone born in 1995 I HATE Twilight! It's so stupid! As a matter of fact, I associate Twilight with people born in the 80s/early 90s. There were many girls I knew who were around my age who didn't care for Twilight at all. I'm definitely part of the Hunger Games generation. I'd probably say the 1997-2001 group is more Divergent than Hunger Games (mid '90s babies), even though I like that too.

Other than that I pretty much agree with the list except I'd move 1975 over to the late Generation X group as part of the Main Clueless Generation.


Yeah, same here, I never understood the appeal of it when it was going on, Hunger Games is so much better, and that's even if you read the books too and not just watch the movies. Now granted maybe it was just you but I do remember many people near my age who loved Twilight too trust me because I was in middle school and I remember people who got into it up until the final movie in early high school, however I'd consider myself as a part of the Hunger Games generation too. I loved it when I first saw the movie in 2012 and I can't wait until this upcoming part 2, I thought the Hunger Games was the perfect series to follow up after the Harry Potter trilogy ended the previous year.

Yeah, same here, I never understood the appeal of it when it was going on, Hunger Games is so much better, and that's even if you read the books too and not just watch the movies. Now granted maybe it was just you but I do remember many people near my age who loved Twilight too trust me because I was in middle school and I remember people who got into it up until the final movie in early high school, however I'd consider myself as a part of the Hunger Games generation too. I loved it when I first saw the movie in 2012 and I can't wait until this upcoming part 2, I thought the Hunger Games was the perfect series to follow up after the Harry Potter trilogy ended the previous year.


Well I get where you are coming from. But it doesn't matter if you liked it or not, it's just what was popular for most of our middle school and high school years. Therefore it represents anybody who was in high school in the late 00's/early 10's to a tea.

But I do agree, I enjoy the hunger games series much more, but the series represents our half of our high school and the other half our college years.

While the Twilight craze began when we were in 7th grade with the first movie and ended when we were Juniors in HS with the last movie, thats a pretty big chunk of our youth period, and If you are like me you would agree that the absolute peak of your youth period (the entire period typically being age 11 through age 22) is usually your high school years.

So the Twilight craze was going on for most of our middle school and high school years, thus it represents what was popular.

In 10 years, when I look back on my high school years, movie series like Twilight, tv shows like Breaking Bad, video game systems like the PS3, the peak in popularity of facebook, and music like electropop & dubstep, would come to mind to what defined my high school years in the early 10's!

Whatever is popular now such as the last two Hunger Games films & Divergent, tv shows like House of Cards, video game systems like the PS4, the peak in popularity of twitter, & modern day electropop & edm, is what would come to mind to what defined my college years in the mid 10's!

I think I've already mentioned this before, but to me anybody who was in mandatory school when 9/11 happened should automatically qualify as Generation Y. I don't understand why most sources don't go with this but honestly that's how I think it should be. However, the truth is no matter what our opinions are about the generations, is that all over the internet the most accurate sources, websites, and images cutoff Generation Y at 1994 and starts Generation Z at 1995 because of the release of the internet, and I'm not talking about the word "millennial" I'm talking about when it strictly uses the terms "Generation Y" or "Generation Z". If the website doesn't immediately say it starts at 1995, it'll make sure it's mentioned somewhere else right away. Most businesses and accurate information are leaning towards Generation X as 1965-1979, Generation Y as 1980-1994, and Generation Z as 1995-2009, which are all 15 year periods.

that's pretty ridiculous!!  they're making it one short generation!! Ocarnia's list was PERFECT!!!

Also, basically the class of 1999 was pretty much the last gen x class IMO.

that's pretty ridiculous!!  they're making it one short generation!! Ocarnia's list was PERFECT!!!


Yeah I know, I think it's ridiculous too but that's how most accurate sources are labeling us no matter how our opinions about the generations are. Most businesses until further notice are starting Generation Z at 1995 just because of the stupid timing the government or whoever decided to release the internet. Not everybody has to agree that the release of the internet should be the final be all, although that did impact society though and is causing generations to become much shorter now due to more fast paced technology. Personally I believe that everybody who was in mandatory school when 9/11 happened should automatically qualify as Generation Y. That's just me.

Yeah I know, I think it's ridiculous too but that's how most accurate sources are labeling us no matter how our opinions about the generations are. Most businesses until further notice are starting Generation Z at 1995 just because of the stupid timing the government or whoever decided to release the internet. Not everybody has to agree that the release of the internet should be the final be all, although that did impact society though and is causing generations to become much shorter now due to more fast paced technology. Personally I believe that everybody who was in mandatory school when 9/11 happened should automatically qualify as Generation Y. That's just me.


I agree! Also have you guys noticed more and more sources stating the age range as 18-34? However could it just be because 18-34 is typically the young adult range...

I agree! Also have you guys noticed more and more sources stating the age range as 18-34? However could it just be because 18-34 is typically the young adult range...


I don't think it's a mere coincidence, since everybody in grade school now were young children during a time that the Internet was already fully established and advanced mobile technology was already on the rise.  The current high school seniors, born in 1997-1998, were only about 7-9 years old when popular YouTube shows like Smosh and the Angry Video Game Nerd came out during the 2005-2006 school year, and so a great deal of them would have experienced YouTube as a primary means of entertainment while still in their core childhoods.  Whereas Generation Y witnessed the rise of the Internet throughout grade school, Generation Z pretty much lived and breathed it from the beginning, causing their lives and mindsets to be far less living room-centric and much more cybernetic.

A generation is usually twenty years because 15 is too young an age to have children.

I don't think it's a mere coincidence, since everybody in grade school now were young children during a time that the Internet was already fully established and advanced mobile technology was already on the rise.  The current high school seniors, born in 1997-1998, were only about 7-9 years old when popular YouTube shows like Smosh and the Angry Video Game Nerd came out during the 2005-2006 school year, and so a great deal of them would have experienced YouTube as a primary means of entertainment while still in their core childhoods. Whereas Generation Y witnessed the rise of the Internet throughout grade school, Generation Z pretty much lived and breathed it from the beginning, causing their lives and mindsets to be far less living room-centric and much more cybernetic.


This is very true! I actually saw this YouTube comment the other day where this girl said, "Back when I was 7-8 years old, I used to watch Angry Joe & Smosh all day long! Those were the days, kids these days won't understand that!".

I felt so old after reading that because first of all when I was 7-8 YouTube didn't even exist. Heck thats widely considered the tail end of the Web 1.0 era, and many people back then were still using dial up even back then! By the time YouTube became massively popular, when I was 10, I was already in my tweens, transitioning into middle school, and starting to use the internet more regularly like I do today.

So for most of my core childhood years, I only used the internet to play flash games & research something for a project. I was usually playing outside, playing my PS1 or PS2, or watching tv which at a time online video wasn't even mainstream AT ALL. So its pretty weird when I see a big difference in how I interact with certain things compared to guys 3-4 years younger than myself...

A generation is usually twenty years because 15 is too young an age to have children.


some kids could get pregnant after 15.

This is very true! I actually saw this YouTube comment the other day where this girl said, "Back when I was 7-8 years old, I used to watch Angry Joe & Smosh all day long! Those were the days, kids these days won't understand that!".

I felt so old after reading that because first of all when I was 7-8 YouTube didn't even exist. Heck thats widely considered the tail end of the Web 1.0 era, and many people back then were still using dial up even back then! By the time YouTube became massively popular, when I was 10, I was already in my tweens, transitioning into middle school, and starting to use the internet more regularly like I do today.

So for most of my core childhood years, I only used the internet to play flash games & research something for a project. I was usually playing outside, playing my PS1 or PS2, or watching tv which at a time online video wasn't even mainstream AT ALL. So its pretty weird when I see a big difference in how I interact with certain things compared to guys 3-4 years younger than myself...


Wikipedia is inaccurate so I'm not sure if this is true, but what #Infinity says makes sense. Youtube was founded in February 2005 but according to the website it wasn't launched and available to everybody until November 2005. I would have been in 4th grade about to turn 10 when that happened. I didn't start using Youtube regularly until about 2007 when I was 11. So yeah, if this is the case, then Class of 2015 (1996-1997) would be the last group of people to have the majority of their elementary school years without Youtube. Class of 2016 (1997-1998) and on had most or all of their elementary school years and core childhood when social media got real big.

Throughout the whole time we were 7 & 8 like you said there was no such thing as Youtube, heck even most of the time we were 7 there was no Myspace either. Also as for flash games online you're right, before those social media sites existed we would usually go to the kid stations' websites or other toy merchandise websites to play flash games. You watch commercial ad's on TV back then and at the end of each ad you didn't see "Twitter", "Youtube", or "Facebook" icons and people pressing on tablets, they'd put more afford into the commercials and people were not zombified on their tablets, screens, or computers like today, they were more active. 

some kids could get pregnant after 15.
Even younger... ?

A generation is usually twenty years because 15 is too young an age to have children.

When I was younger a generation was considered to be at 25 years.

Thats a interesting way of dividing it! You could also do it like this:

b. 1965-1969 - Early Gen X/Main Brat Pack Generation

b. 1970-1975 - Core Gen X/Main Heathers Generation

b. 1976-1980 - Late Gen X/Main Clueless Generation

b. 1981-1985 - Early Gen Y/Main American Pie Generation

b. 1986-1991 - Core Gen Y/Main Mean Girls Generation

b. 1992-1996 - Late Gen Y/Main Twilight Generation

b. 1997-2001 - Early Gen Z/Main Hunger Games Generation

b. 2002 & After Pure Z

Oh no. I was still a teenager when both American Pie and Mean Girls was a big deal and classmates were either born in '85 or '86. Those two years should go together.


some kids could get pregnant after 15.

Physically it's possible, but that's not the point. 20 is a nice even number and you're for sure considered "grown" at that age as far as being through with high school and no longer in your teens. Plus after 20 is when alot of people have kids and such.

Oh no. I was still a teenager when both American Pie and Mean Girls was a big deal and classmates were either born in '85 or '86. Those two years should go together.
Physically it's possible, but that's not the point. 20 is a nice even number and you're for sure considered "grown" at that age as far as being through with high school and no longer in your teens. Plus after 20 is when alot of people have kids and such.


You do got a point on that one! In that case it could be rearranged like
this:

1981-1986 Early Gen Y-Late 80's/Early 90's kids-Millennium Era Teens

1987-1990 Core Gen Y-Core 90's Kids-Core 00's Teens

1991-1996 Late Gen Y-Late 90's/Early 00's Kids-Late 00's/Early 10's Teens

(Note I am not saying that this is 100% accurate)

You do got a point on that one! In that case it could be rearranged like
this:

1981-1986 Early Gen Y-Late 80's/Early 90's kids-Millennium Era Teens

1987-1990 Core Gen Y-Core 90's Kids-Core 00's Teens

1991-1996 Late Gen Y-Late 90's/Early 00's Kids-Late 00's/Early 10's Teens

(Note I am not saying that this is 100% accurate)
I don't really consider myself an early 2010s teen. I consider myself to be purely a 2000s teen with slight 2010s overlap, and just to balance this whole thing out, the core of a generation is supposed to be the longest group so 1986-1991 would be accurate for peak generation y along with the fact that I've heard some people on here say that 85' borns still have some grain of Gen X traits while those born from 1986-1991 are pretty much 100 percent percent y. People born in 1992 are still 100 percent y but only slightly off the parameters for peak Y since they graduated high school in 2010. I know you said it is not a 100 percent accurate, but I just thought I'd share my view of how peak generation y is set up.

I don't really consider myself an early 2010s teen. I consider myself to be purely a 2000s teen with slight 2010s overlap, and just to balance this whole thing out, the core of a generation is supposed to be the longest group so 1986-1991 would be accurate for peak generation y along with the fact that I've heard some people on here say that 85' borns still have some grain of Gen X traits while those born from 1986-1991 are pretty much 100 percent percent y. People born in 1992 are still 100 percent y but only slightly off the parameters for peak Y since they graduated high school in 2010. I know you said it is not a 100 percent accurate, but I just thought I'd share my view of how peak generation y is set up.


Yeah your are right about that. You could also see it like this:

1981-1984 Early Gen Y-Core Late 80's Kids

1985-1992 Core Gen Y-Core 90's Kids

1993-1996 Late Gen Y-Core Early 00's Kids


The way I see it wherever you spent most of age 5-9/10 give or
take is the peak of your childhood usually.


So the 81-84ers were the late 80's group since their peaks were mostly or started in the late 80's.

85ers-92ers, while yes there's a difference between a early 90's kid born in 85/6 and a late 90's kid born in 91/2, there peaks were both mostly in the 90's!

93ers-96ers peaks were mostly or a good chunk spent in the early 00's so they would be the late Y group that grew up in the last stand of Gen Y child centric culture

A generation is usually twenty years because 15 is too young an age to have children.


Most parents have children around 30, though.

Most parents have children around 30, though.


My Mother had me when she was 29.

I don't really consider myself an early 2010s teen. I consider myself to be purely a 2000s teen with slight 2010s overlap, and just to balance this whole thing out, the core of a generation is supposed to be the longest group so 1986-1991 would be accurate for peak generation y along with the fact that I've heard some people on here say that 85' borns still have some grain of Gen X traits while those born from 1986-1991 are pretty much 100 percent percent y. People born in 1992 are still 100 percent y but only slightly off the parameters for peak Y since they graduated high school in 2010. I know you said it is not a 100 percent accurate, but I just thought I'd share my view of how peak generation y is set up.

What X traits would '85 have?

some kids could get pregnant after 15.


Yes, but most don't.

Most parents have children around 30, though.


I'm thinking of a global average and across five generations. Is it around 25 today, with 20 during the '60s and '70s?

What X traits would '85 have?
I'm actually trying to figure this out myself. I've just heard by some others on this site that 85ers seem to have the last birth year to have some grain of x traits, probably because they were the last to enter high school in the 90s, but then again they started high school in the 1999-2000 school year when y culture was already in full swing, so I'm not too sure about 85ers having X traits.

I don't think people born after 1983 have any X traits.

I'm actually trying to figure this out myself. I've just heard by some others on this site that 85ers seem to have the last birth year to have some grain of x traits, probably because they were the last to enter high school in the 90s, but then again they started high school in the 1999-2000 school year when y culture was already in full swing, so I'm not too sure about 85ers having X traits.


We were of age during the mid 90s when we were reaching 10,11,12, etc... if that helps

I'm actually trying to figure this out myself. I've just heard by some others on this site that 85ers seem to have the last birth year to have some grain of x traits, probably because they were the last to enter high school in the 90s, but then again they started high school in the 1999-2000 school year when y culture was already in full swing, so I'm not too sure about 85ers having X traits.

I just entered my early teens in the late 90's and that wasn't high school. I was 4 on the last 80's year and can't remember it. I doubt even a person born in 1983 would remember much of the late 80's. Those born in '82 and '81 could.

I just entered my early teens in the late 90's and that wasn't high school. I was 4 on the last 80's year and can't remember it. I doubt even a person born in 1983 would remember much of the late 80's. Those born in '82 and '81 could.


Those born in 1981 and 1982 should definitely remember the late 80's no doubt. Someone born in 1983 should remember 1988 and 1989 very clearly but yeah most of their core childhood memories would've been in the early 90's though.

I don't think people born after 1983 have any X traits.


I agree 150%!!

I think the last to have any X traits, would be 84 borns since their peak childhoods began in the 80's & were in school when the Berlin Wall Fell. But they are still mostly Yers.

1975 & 1976: The Last Core Gen Xers

1977 & 1978: Gen X with a slight Y influence

1979 & 1980: Gen X with a major Y influence

1981 & 1982: Gen Y with a major X influence

1983 & 1984: Gen Y with a minor X influence

1985 & 1986: The First Core Gen Yers

Thats a interesting way of dividing it! You could also do it like this:

b. 1965-1969 - Early Gen X/Main Brat Pack Generation

b. 1970-1975 - Core Gen X/Main Heathers Generation

b. 1976-1980 - Late Gen X/Main Clueless Generation

b. 1981-1985 - Early Gen Y/Main American Pie Generation

b. 1986-1991 - Core Gen Y/Main Mean Girls Generation

b. 1992-1996 - Late Gen Y/Main Twilight Generation

b. 1997-2001 - Early Gen Z/Main Hunger Games Generation

b. 2002 & After Pure Z

My Dad was born in 1959(Late boomer), so I guess he's apart of the Saturday Night Fever generation? ;D

My Dad was born in 1959(Late boomer), so I guess he's apart of the Saturday Night Fever generation? ;D


Lol pretty much!

My dad was born in 49', so he's a pure boomer. Fought in Vietnam, knew friends who were anti war protestors, was friends with a few hippies, etc.

My mom was born in 57', so she's in a similar case with your dad. She was more of a 70's teen and a 80's young adult, she was in college when Grease & Saturday Night Fever were out, and she gets really nostalgic of the disco days of the mid-late 70's and the new wave days of the early-mid 80's. She was also a big fan of Michael Jackson & Madonna, especially since she's around their age

Lol pretty much!

My dad was born in 49', so he's a pure boomer. Fought in Vietnam, knew friends who were anti war protestors, was friends with a few hippies, etc.

My mom was born in 57', so she's in a similar case with your dad. She was more of a 70's teen and a 80's young adult, she was in college when Grease & Saturday Night Fever were out, and she gets really nostalgic of the disco days of the mid-late 70's and the new wave days of the early-mid 80's. She was also a big fan of Michael Jackson & Madonna, especially since she's around their age


Hmm.. I never knew that your dad was THAT old when you were born.

If you include the Baby Boom it would probably look like this:

1946-1950: Older Baby Boomers/Main Vietnam Generation

1951-1956: Core Boomers/Were Teens & Young Adults During the Vietnam Era & Disco Era

1957-1964: Late Boomers/Main Disco Generation

Hmm.. I never knew that your dad was THAT old when you were born.


Lol well I'm the youngest of all 80's babies. They had me at 46 & 38 (they have late bdays). I have 4 older sisters

Oldest born in 1978 (though she's from a different father)

Second Oldest in 1985

Second Youngest 1986

Youngest in 1991

Then me in 1996

Lol well I'm the youngest of all 80's babies. They had me at 46 & 38 (they have late bdays). I have 4 older sisters

Oldest born in 1978 (though she's from a different father)

Second Oldest in 1985

Second Youngest 1986

Youngest in 1991

Then me in 1996


Huh, I never knew that you the oldest siblings that were adults in your childhood, including your early teens.

I'm thinking of a global average and across five generations. Is it around 25 today, with 20 during the '60s and '70s?


My Mother had me before 30.

Gen X. 1981 is also Gen X.

Celebrities like James Rolfe (b. 1980) and Doug Walker (b. 1981) seem to have had a very "X" upbringing.

Gen X. 1981 is also Gen X.

Celebrities like James Rolfe (b. 1980) and Doug Walker (b. 1981) seem to have had a very "X" upbringing.

I though nostalgia critic was born in 82? ???

http://i.imgur.com/YlLKf6B.png

According to here, no. Maybe he just said "I'm 34" in a recent video because his 35th birthday hasn't passed yet.

I did find it rather weird when Kanye West (b. 1977) said on the MTV Awards that "we're all millennials here".

What he said could be interpreted two ways: either he's merely saying he's hip and "down with the kids", or he's going by those wack-ass, dated definitions from like 1999 that say Gen Y starts in 1974! :o

Gen X. 1981 is also Gen X.

Celebrities like James Rolfe (b. 1980) and Doug Walker (b. 1981) seem to have had a very "X" upbringing.
I say they're in between. For one, their adulthood was pretty much after 2000 and their friends along with them brought up the Millennial pop culture which would emerge in the late 90s.


I did find it rather weird when Kanye West (b. 1977) said on the MTV Awards that "we're all millennials here".

What he said could be interpreted two ways: either he's merely saying he's hip and "down with the kids", or he's going by those wack-ass, dated definitions from like 1999 that say Gen Y starts in 1974! :o
I find it weird as well. Maybe he didn't feel like an Xer back then or the first statement you said. Otherwise, there's no way those from the late 70s could be Yers (unless today's definitions are going with Plurals at 1995 and not 2001.) 

I say they're in between. For one, their adulthood was pretty much after 2000 and their friends along with them brought up the Millennial pop culture which would emerge in the late 90s.
I find it weird as well. Maybe he didn't feel like an Xer back then or the first statement you said. Otherwise, there's no way those from the late 70s could be Yers (unless today's definitions are going with Plurals at 1995 and not 2001.)

Back then? He said it like a year ago, that's not that long ago. ;D

It's rather weird looking at those older definitions for Gen Y, with some of them starting as early or 1974 or 75!!!! :o Even if you go by the starting date of Gen X as being 1961, that still only leaves you with a 12-13 year generation!!! That simply doesn't fit at all, I'm glad those dates have been phased out.

For me:
1946-1964 - Boomers
1965-1981 - Gen X
1982-2000 - Millennials
2001+ - Plurals

Simples.

Back then? He said it like a year ago, that's not that long ago. ;D

It's rather weird looking at those older definitions for Gen Y, with some of them starting as early or 1974 or 75!!!! :o Even if you go by the starting date of Gen X as being 1961, that still only leaves you with a 12-13 year generation!!! That simply doesn't fit at all, I'm glad those dates have been phased out.

For me:
1946-1964 - Boomers
1965-1981 - Gen X
1982-2000 - Millennials
2001+ - Plurals

Simples.
I meant that when it was the 90s, he probably didn't feel like a Xer because people his age at the time were in high school and college. Furthermore, during that same period, they could have watched those teen movies like American Pie, Varsity Blues, She's All That and Can't Hardly Wait as well.

Yeah, it's so weird. It makes you wonder why back in the 90s, those from the 70s were considered Yers in the first place?

Yeah, it's so weird. It makes you wonder why back in the 90s, those from the 70s were considered Yers in the first place?

The only explanation I can think of is overshooting. ;D

The only explanation I can think of is overshooting. ;D
what do you mean by that?

In their arrogance, marketers overestimated the number of Gen Y years.

In their ignorance, marketers overestimated the number of Gen Y years.
That's probably why the generation is really large because some marketers think it's over 20 years when it's not. In fact, it was too early to even say who is considered the Y generation. I've even seen some comments and watched some Youtube videos from some of the people (who are considered Zers at the 1995 definition) and they say they've seen what the Millennials have went through (which means they don't see themselves as one) and want more privacy.

I did find it rather weird when Kanye West (b. 1977) said on the MTV Awards that "we're all millennials here".

What he said could be interpreted two ways: either he's merely saying he's hip and "down with the kids", or he's going by those wack-ass, dated definitions from like 1999 that say Gen Y starts in 1974! :o

I found that to be VERY strange too.. I hope he meant the first one you interpreted. Cause the guy may be a bit immature, but he's still an Xer.

Wait, this is confusing now!

I was born in 1980, in September. I was still 19 in 2000 because I have a late birthday. So what does that make me?

You're Gen X.

1980 and 1981 are Gen X years, in my (and many others') opinion. 1961-1981 or 1965-1981 are the popular Gen X birth ranges.

1980 and 1981 is XY cusp.

I don't believe in the concept of "People who have only a very small age difference, yet there's no generational connection." Cusps make more sense to me.

Wait, this is confusing now!

I was born in 1980, in September. I was still 19 in 2000 because I have a late birthday. So what does that make me?
I say you're both because you had experienced secondary school during the X pop culture and that your college career took place during the early Millennial generation timeframe.

Moreover, other factors include you were eligible to vote in 2000; you were pretty much out of the general audience for pop culture after 2003; you never could vote for Bill Clinton; last, your adulthood was truly after 9/11.