Someone before did a topic about the culture of 1997 so i thought i would do one about 1992, it seems that some people say the year had late 80 holdovers and others say that it was purely 90s. what are your opinions?

Though I do not remember it (being born in 1990), looking at family photos and such, 1992 seems to be a transitional year. The bridge year between the bright neon colors and poppy/preppy late 80s-early '90s look, and the 'grunge' look of the mid 90s; the bridge between the Hair Metal era and the Grunge era. Consider that 1992 brought us Wayne's World, a core "Hair Metal" film, and that film was extremely popular when released that year. Grunge hadn't totally taken over. Guns N' Roses performed a Pay-Per-View show broadcast live from Paris in June 1992 with guests such as Aerosmith and Lenny Kravitz--Something only MEGA famous and powerful bands could pull off, and embarked the same year on the huge Metallica/Guns co-headlining tour that summer and early Fall, and were THE big act at the '92 VMAs.

1993 was also a transitional year. You figure Aerosmith, a classic rock band, released one of the biggest selling albums of 1993. You really wouldn't see Grunge in full bloom until 1994. 1994 was the high point of the grunge look, and the last major gasp of it musically.

1993 is when you begin to see the shift, with the election of Bill Clinton, the slow ending of the early '90s recession throughout his first year in office, etc. 

IMO the '90s don't really become "THE 90s" until 1995.

It had late '80s holdovers. Even 1993 had late '80s holdovers. My parents were in their late '20s in 1992, so they clearly remember it. Sure, flannel and combat boots were in, but so were neon colors and big hair. Even music still sounded '80s. "Damn I Wish I Was Your Lover" and "Friday, I'm in Love" come to mind with '80s-sounding '90s songs. Hair metal bands were still in.

The biggest sign of this is the fact that Wayne's World was a big hit in late 1992 when it came out. That movie would've fit just as easily in 1988 or 1989. You don't really see "the '90s" as they're more commonly remembered happening until around mid 1993, with the release of Jurassic Park; around that time it begins to slowly start changing.

Someone before did a topic about the culture of 1997 so i thought i would do one about 1992, it seems that some people say the year had late 80 holdovers and others say that it was purely 90s. what are your opinions?


1992 was still an early 90s year but it began looking more like a Clinton year in July or so. People were wearing flannel prior to fall of 1992, but it wasn't paired with a Nirvana shirt. Think of 1992 as the new 1989, it gave you an idea of what was to come in the next three years. Take Disney's Aladdin, for example. It was a fairy tale like The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, both HW Bush era films. Disney's Aladdin was also the first Disney Renaissance film to be set in an actual continent like The Lion King and Pocahontas . As you can see from the sequels and TV series, Disney's Aladdin was very important to children during Clinton's first term (1993-1996).

In my honest opinion, 1993 was the first full year to be purely '90s.

When I first saw Wayne's World I thought that it came out in 1990 or 1991!

When I first saw Wayne's World I thought that it came out in 1990 or 1991!


Wayne's World was produced in 1991.

Not sure what there is to debate, 1992 unquestionably had '80s leftovers. Songs such as these would have felt completely dated by the mid to late '90s, but still had enough cultural relevance to make it to the U.S. top 10 that year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoclrsxO7kQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQSkuDWhaAo

Wayne's World was produced in 1991.


Makes perfect sense. A movie can be filmed a year or two before.

Not sure what there is to debate, 1992 unquestionably had '80s leftovers. Songs such as these would have felt completely dated by the mid to late '90s, but still had enough cultural relevance to make it to the U.S. top 10 that year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoclrsxO7kQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQSkuDWhaAo


We were still listening to artists from 1989 in 1992. '89 was still recent to most people my age. I do recall certain folks being nostalgic for everything from 1986 in that year.

Someone before did a topic about the culture of 1997 so i thought i would do one about 1992, it seems that some people say the year had late 80 holdovers and others say that it was purely 90s. what are your opinions?


Late 80s holdovers? The new pop culture of the late 80s took center stage in the early 1990s. So, there were Bret Michaels posters on the walls of teenage girls' rooms in 1992. Of course, young men were still collecting Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles action figures and trading them with friends at school in 1991. Rap fans of the early 90s were saying that new hip hop albums were their 'type of hype' or 'stupid cool'.

Who could forget this California Raisins PSA from late in 1991?:

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Spring of 1992 (very early 90s)

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https://abortionsforall.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/waynesworldposter.jpg

Summer of 1992 (still early 90s somewhat):

https://tokuheroes.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/batman_returns_poster-bullet-dodged-batman-returns-almost-had-a-bat-nipple-moment.jpeg

https://manikani2d.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/barbie-bongo-outfit.jpg

http://991.com/NewGallery/Faster-Pussycat-Whipped-374989.jpg

Fall of 1992 (it's beginning to look a lot like the mid 90s…)

https://seanmunger.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/1992-dem-convention.jpg

http://images1.musicfeeds.com.au/0de330f8f5a505e0e48427feded93e2d-640x360.png

http://wp.theoblogical.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/WindowsLiveWriter/PicketFencesSeason1DVDAnnouncedforEarly2_B6A1/picketfences%5B1%5D1.jpg

I see it as a 90s year for teens but an 80s year for adults
Teens were listening to this in 92
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM_VIATPYQc

adults were listening to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0oAyDMHOjg

I'd say that year actually had both influences.

Here are some videos from that year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgrjBmzWtG8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3OT5bhs03o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW7l6Q3EY7I

Here are also some photos

https://sophrosynean.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/1992m.jpg

http://think.stedwards.edu/camp/sites/think.stedwards.edu.camp/files/imagecache/display/08_camp%201992_93.jpg

http://www.northsantarosa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Class.jpg

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http://www.waltwhitmanhighschool.com/wwhs/classpics/1992_high.jpg

1992 is literally confusing. It's kind of funky and puffy like the 80s but it's kind of plain and straight-laced like the 90s. It truly is a transition year.

1992 is literally confusing. It's kind of funky and puffy like the 80s but it's kind of plain and straight-laced like the 90s. It truly is a transition year.
I agree. It's was a huge transformation year.

1992 is literally confusing. It's kind of funky and puffy like the 80s but it's kind of plain and straight-laced like the 90s. It truly is a transition year.


i am confused by 1992 as well. i see 1990 and 1991 with alot of 80s influences but when it comes to 1992 i can not tell if it has 80s influences or if it just early 90s influences since it is a early 90s year.

It was a gray area year. This is the best way I can describe it.

i am confused by 1992 as well. i see 1990 and 1991 with alot of 80s influences but when it comes to 1992 i can not tell if it has 80s influences or if it just early 90s influences since it is a early 90s year.


1990 and 1991 were early 90s years also. Yes, we still loved the pop cultural figures introduced in the late 80s back then. 1992 was the closest year to 1993, the first year of the mid 1990s. Naturally, it began to look more like the start of '93 in the fall of '92. I think that is what you are noticing.

Let's look at what happens when the DJ at your dance plays way too many Bobby Brown and Guy tunes. True early 90s fashion:

http://auto.img.v4.skyrock.net/8128/12418128/pics/3038638293_1_5_BknEKYgx.jpg

https://danceofthescreamers.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/parkerlewis2.jpg

Now, the result of when MTV plays way too many Pearl Jam music videos. Hello, mid 90s!:

https://fashiongrunge.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/995cls_brittany_murphy_003.jpeg?w=700

https://toastofnewyorkdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/angela-chase-fashion-6.jpg

It was a gray area year. This is the best way I can describe it.


Agreed, it was the actual Philly cheesesteak sandwiched between two delectable rolls (1991: The Greatest Year of the Early 90s and 1993: The First Year of the overly bland Mid 1990s that most 80s fans love to hate).

Needless to say, I loved 1992! It had the best of both worlds!


Who didn't want one of these then?:

https://thelalientimes.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/92polostadium.jpg

Thanks for sharing, especially that 1992 Hammond High School video (I graduated there in 2003, and boy the early 00s cutlure just wasn't nearly as fun!) That said, I see 1992 as the quintessential early '90s year. Less '80s influences than previous years, but prior to the more cynical mid-90s atmosphere with a few hints. 1991 comes close, but Michael Jackson's Dangerous and Prince's "Diamonds and Pearls" and "Cream" along with Paula Abdul still being popular still gives it a vague late '80s feel. It is also much more "down to earth" compared to the previous years with their yuppiedoms. That said, the earlier part of the '90s (mid-1993-early 1995) feels quite a bit different than the later half (mid-1995-early 1997), mostly due to the increased presence of the Internet, post-grunge, the peak of Gangsta Rap, '70s nostalgia replacing '60s nostalgia, Friends and ER becoming popular, Power Rangers starting to slip in popularity after the movie, and Britpop peaking.

Thanks for sharing, especially that 1992 Hammond High School video (I graduated there in 2003, and boy the early 00s cutlure just wasn't nearly as fun!) That said, I see 1992 as the quintessential early '90s year. Less '80s influences than previous years, but prior to the more cynical mid-90s atmosphere with a few hints. 1991 comes close, but Michael Jackson's Dangerous and Prince's "Diamonds and Pearls" and "Cream" along with Paula Abdul still being popular still gives it a vague late '80s feel. It is also much more "down to earth" compared to the previous years with their yuppiedoms. That said, the earlier part of the '90s (mid-1993-early 1995) feels quite a bit different than the later half (mid-1995-early 1997), mostly due to the increased presence of the Internet, post-grunge, the peak of Gangsta Rap, '70s nostalgia replacing '60s nostalgia, Friends and ER becoming popular, Power Rangers starting to slip in popularity after the movie, and Britpop peaking.
You're welcome. How was your school experience at Hammond High?

You're welcome. How was your school experience at Hammond High?


It wasn't too much different except for the prevalent early 00s (and the end of the "millenial era") trends that have been discussed on this board. I remember the Cha-Cha Slide during a dance, but I never went to the prom as I was more inclined toward other clubs and the school's quiz team. I wasn't that much into the "Now". I would CERTAINLY have been called a "square" if I went to HS in the 1950s or '60s.

Thanks for sharing, especially that 1992 Hammond High School video (I graduated there in 2003, and boy the early 00s cutlure just wasn't nearly as fun!) That said, I see 1992 as the quintessential early '90s year. Less '80s influences than previous years, but prior to the more cynical mid-90s atmosphere with a few hints. 1991 comes close, but Michael Jackson's Dangerous and Prince's "Diamonds and Pearls" and "Cream" along with Paula Abdul still being popular still gives it a vague late '80s feel. It is also much more "down to earth" compared to the previous years with their yuppiedoms. That said, the earlier part of the '90s (mid-1993-early 1995) feels quite a bit different than the later half (mid-1995-early 1997), mostly due to the increased presence of the Internet, post-grunge, the peak of Gangsta Rap, '70s nostalgia replacing '60s nostalgia, Friends and ER becoming popular, Power Rangers starting to slip in popularity after the movie, and Britpop peaking.


The new movies, games, shows and clothes of 1990 and 1991 saw more popularity in 1992.

https://bjamieson88.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/home-alone-2.jpg

https://aproximatelytoomanygames.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/boxshot.jpg

https://hiphopmagazinearchive.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/img629.jpg

https://unabashedlypoetic.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/90210.jpg


People definitely knew what the pop culture introduced in '90 and '91 was in 1992.

Disney's Aladdin was also the first Disney Renaissance film to be set in an actual continent like The Lion King and Pocahontas .


Not sure what exactly you mean by this? The Little Mermaid is heavily implied to take place in Denmark (the land scenes anyway) and Beauty and the Beast in France...both in Europe.

http://wp.theoblogical.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/WindowsLiveWriter/PicketFencesSeason1DVDAnnouncedforEarly2_B6A1/picketfences%5B1%5D1.jpg

What was this TV Show? ???

https://bjamieson88.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/home-alone-2.jpg

I remember this film. ↑

https://bjamieson88.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/home-alone-2.jpg

I remember this film. ↑
Now shown every Christmas on television.

Not sure what exactly you mean by this? The Little Mermaid is heavily implied to take place in Denmark (the land scenes anyway) and Beauty and the Beast in France...both in Europe.


I should have re-phrased that. I was just trying to point out how Disney's Aladdin could be thought of as a early or mid 90s movie. I should have gone with my other explanation: Disney's Aladdin was the first eponymous Disney Renaissance film and it's main characters were not white.

http://wp.theoblogical.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/WindowsLiveWriter/PicketFencesSeason1DVDAnnouncedforEarly2_B6A1/picketfences%5B1%5D1.jpg

What was this TV Show? ???


Picket Fences (1992-1996)

https://bjamieson88.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/home-alone-2.jpg

I remember this film. ↑


It gave America the toy that every child of the mid 90s had on their Christmas list :

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3vmWTYSXE50/U74smlXeBpI/AAAAAAAABmo/_SpyBHuZWiQ/s1600/Talkboy.jpg

1992 is literally confusing. It's kind of funky and puffy like the 80s but it's kind of plain and straight-laced like the 90s. It truly is a transition year.


You can say that again. Americans went from watching this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-izaX4bip0a4/TXuLtkRQXjI/AAAAAAAAdWM/DL_db207f68/s1600/reign144.jpg

To this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6hQqR5APDcc/TZfFFCkud-I/AAAAAAAACSY/b9wK0CR1aPs/s1600/ghostwriter-show.jpg

It gave America the toy that every child of the mid 90s had on their Christmas list :

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3vmWTYSXE50/U74smlXeBpI/AAAAAAAABmo/_SpyBHuZWiQ/s1600/Talkboy.jpg


What a cool gadget to have.

What a cool gadget to have.


Macaulay's fame was just about behind him when the Talkboy came out in early 1993.

1992 was the last full year of the early 90s.

You were not allowed to walk outside of the house looking like this in any part of 1993:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8420194101_9a6c39e0be.jpg

1992 was the last full year of the early 90s.

You were not allowed to walk outside of the house looking like this in any part of 1993:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8420194101_9a6c39e0be.jpg


Do you like 1993? Be honest.

Do you like 1993? Be honest.


No, not at all. Most of my favorite shows were cancelled in '93. 1993 was the first year of the 90s that felt as dull as dishwater.

The original movie characters of '93 (Mrs. Doubtfire and Surf Ninjas) were stupid compared to Vivian Ward (Pretty Woman), Kevin McClaister (Home Alone), City Slickers, Catherine Tramell (Basic Instinct), Beethoven, Cousin Vinny and Frank Slade (Scent of a Woman).

All of today's values and norms started in 1993.

1993 just didn't deliver at all.

Just look at the inventions released in 1989 until that point:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4922/1159/1600/flower%2089.jpg

https://krisfrosz133.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/powerglove.jpg

http://www.counterkicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/reebok-pump-bringback-pack-1-600x450.jpg

https://michellenolton.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/slap-bracelets.jpg

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https://cutpasteprint.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/sansic.jpg

https://eriniseclectic.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/super_soaker_50.jpg

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http://whitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crystalpep.jpg

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https://innovationextravaganza.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/mortal-kombat-addc.jpg

1993 was also the end of Michael Jackson's and Madonna's peaks in their career. Michael got in trouble with accusations of 'you know what' and Madonna's Sex book and Erotica album scared the general public (although the Sex book was released in 1992, the effects of the book and her album was still felt in 1993).

1993 was also the end of Michael Jackson's and Madonna's peaks in their career. Michael got in trouble with accusations of 'you know what' and Madonna's Sex book and Erotica album scared the general public (although the Sex book was released in 1992, the effects of the book and her album was still felt in 1993).


It was a horrible year that I wish to forget.

It was a horrible year that I wish to forget.


Do you hate 1993 more than any other year in the 90s?

Do you hate 1993 more than any other year in the 90s?


I hate all years of the mid 90s equally. The late 90s had more upbeat and positive music.

Someone before did a topic about the culture of 1997 so i thought i would do one about 1992, it seems that some people say the year had late 80 holdovers and others say that it was purely 90s. what are your opinions?
That was me who started that topic  ;D

Bobby got married to Whitney in '92.
https://jameebrown86.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/image03.jpg

He also turned over a new leaf and gave us this:

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It had late '80s holdovers. Even 1993 had late '80s holdovers. My parents were in their late '20s in 1992, so they clearly remember it. Sure, flannel and combat boots were in, but so were neon colors and big hair. Even music still sounded '80s. "Damn I Wish I Was Your Lover" and "Friday, I'm in Love" come to mind with '80s-sounding '90s songs. Hair metal bands were still in.


1993 didn't have as many "late '80s hangovers" as '92 did. Flannel and combat boots weren't in for the entire year.

http://whitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crystalpep.jpg

That was sure short-lived.

http://whitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crystalpep.jpg

That was sure short-lived.
I don't think we saw that over here.

http://whitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crystalpep.jpg

That was sure short-lived.


They were officially sold almost everywhere in 1993 after testing it out on the market in Dallas, Denver, Sacramento and Providence in 1992. The competition knocked it out of the park in 1993.

Pipes jean shorts were introduced in 1992:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Wm5H75m6zhE/TT39NHId-FI/AAAAAAAAA0w/peqn0N3g8Ic/s1600/R-1449183-1220555152%255B1%255D.jpg

Damn, now I have that one hit wonder, "Ditty", stuck in my head.

Am I the only one who remembers how big of a deal these shirts were at the start of 1992?:

Love Sees No Color
https://www.etsy.com/listing/120280908/1991-vintage-tshirt-love-sees-no-color#

I don't think we saw that over here.


What soda did they have in the U.K.? ???

What soda did they have in the U.K.? ???
Many.

Many.


We had this in America back in 1992:

http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/coke-2.jpg

We had this in America back in 1992:

http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/coke-2.jpg


Was this a sequel to Coke?

Was this a sequel to Coke?


It's the same New Coke from 1985.

It's the same New Coke from 1985.
A new flavour?

A new flavour?


Yes, introduced in '85 to much public outcry because it totally replaced the original Coke. After the outcry, Coca Cola re-released the original Coke under the name "Coke Classic" and rebranded the new flavor as "Coke II". It was gone by the mid-late 90s in the US, surviving only in Canada and South America until around the '00s.

LA Lights, the perfect sneakers for joggers who don't face the traffic, were released in 1992.

https://fadornotfad.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/image.jpg

Yes, introduced in '85 to much public outcry because it totally replaced the original Coke. After the outcry, Coca Cola re-released the original Coke under the name "Coke Classic" and rebranded the new flavor as "Coke II". It was gone by the mid-late 90s in the US, surviving only in Canada and South America until around the '00s.


It was just so stupid to name yourself Coke II. ::)

1993 didn't have as many "late '80s hangovers" as '92 did. Flannel and combat boots weren't in for the entire year.


I think the closest years to the 80s (1990 - 1992) had the most "late 80s holdovers" with 1990 as the most obvious one

1990 and 1991 were early 90s years also. Yes, we still loved the pop cultural figures introduced in the late 80s back then. 1992 was the closest year to 1993, the first year of the mid 1990s. Naturally, it began to look more like the start of '93 in the fall of '92. I think that is what you are noticing.

Let's look at what happens when the DJ at your dance plays way too many Bobby Brown and Guy tunes. True early 90s fashion:

http://auto.img.v4.skyrock.net/8128/12418128/pics/3038638293_1_5_BknEKYgx.jpg

https://danceofthescreamers.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/parkerlewis2.jpg

Now, the result of when MTV plays way too many Pearl Jam music videos. Hello, mid 90s!:

https://fashiongrunge.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/995cls_brittany_murphy_003.jpeg?w=700

https://toastofnewyorkdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/angela-chase-fashion-6.jpg


i was just trying to noticed what culture 1992 had more of (80s or 90s), thats all.

I think the closest years to the 80s (1990 - 1992) had the most "late 80s hangovers" with 1990 as the most obvious one


What's a late 80s hangover?

What's a late 80s hangover?


i meant Late 80s holdover

i meant Late 80s holdover


What do you mean by 'late 80s holdover'?

The picture below perfectly sums up the early 90s really:

http://theoriginalwinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/beavis-butthead.jpg

The pop cultural institutions (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, in this case) introduced in the late 80s (1987-1990) saw wild success in the early 90s (1990-1993) while new pop culture icons (Beavis and Butthead)were popping up that would go on to be what the mid 90s (1993-1996) are remembered for.

i was just trying to noticed what culture 1992 had more of (80s or 90s), thats all.


I take it the mid 80s (1984-1987) are what you mean when you bring up the 80s.
Of course, the mid 90s (1993-1996) always comes to minds of many Americans whenever they think of the 90s.


Like all early 90s years, 1992 was one half 80s and the other half 90s. It wasn't one decade over the other.

Of course, the mid 90s (1993-1996) always comes to minds of many Americans whenever they think of the 90s.
Actually, that's incorrect. There are more people than you think who think of the entire decade. in fact, I've seen people talk about the 90s all together and they include details ranging from video games, movies, toys, music, fashion, fads, tv shows, events and more.

Actually, that's incorrect. There are more people than you think who think of the entire decade. in fact, I've seen people talk about the 90s all together and they include details ranging from video games, movies, toys, music, fashion, fads, tv shows, events and more.


The powers that be usually think back to the mid 90s whenever they talk about the decade:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/Album_Whatever-_The_'90s_Pop_&_Culture_Box_cover.jpg

The powers that be usually think back to the mid 90s whenever they talk about the decade:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/Album_Whatever-_The_'90s_Pop_&_Culture_Box_cover.jpg
I dont think so. There are definitely plenty of people who speak about the entire 90s.

I dont think so. There are definitely plenty of people who speak about the entire 90s.


I wasn't talking about ordinary people when I brought up "the powers that be".

https://launchmonitor.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/remembering-the-amazing-90s-34.jpg

I wasn't talking about ordinary people when I brought up "the powers that be".

https://launchmonitor.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/remembering-the-amazing-90s-34.jpg
If they talk about the mid 90s so much, then why is Baywatch, Seinfield and Titanic on the magazine?

If they talk about the mid 90s so much, then why is Baywatch, Seinfield and Titanic on the magazine?


That promotional image for Baywatch is from the mid 1990s. I haven't looked inside of the magazine, so I have no idea if the journalist is quoting "The Soup Nazi" or not.

Titanic is the only pop cultural phenomenon from the late 90s on that cover.

Those promotional image for Baywatch is from the mid 1990s. I haven't looked inside of the magazine, so I have no idea if the journalist is quoting "The Soup Nazi" or not.

Titanic is the only pop cultural phenomenon from the late 90s on that cover.
Since the title says "Remembering the 90s", It will definitely explain more than just the mid 90s.

Since the title says "Remembering the 90s", It will definitely explain more than just the mid 90s.


That's a valid point, but what percentage went toward covering the celebrities, TV shows, movies and events of the early and late 90s in the magazine? It probably wasn't high when compared to that of the mid 90s. Then again, I have no idea because I have never picked up an issue of OK magazine in my life.

That's a valid point, but what percentage went toward covering the celebrities, TV shows, movies and events of the early and late 90s in the magazine? It probably wasn't high when compared to that of the mid 90s. Then again, I have no idea because I have never picked up an issue of OK magazine in my life.
But you have to also remember that some things are popular in two or more parts of a decade. For example, the Simpsons were on for the entire 90s. The SNES ran from 1991 to 1998/99. Sega Genesis ran from 1989 to 1997/98. Baywatch was on from 1989 to 2001. Fresh Prince ran from 1990 to 1996. So, some things from the mid 90s may have also been in the early and late 90's too.

But you have to also remember that some things are popular in two or more parts of a decade. For example, the Simpsons were on for the entire 90s. The SNES ran from 1991 to 1998/99. Sega Genesis ran from 1989 to 1997/98. Baywatch was on from 1989 to 2001. Fresh Prince ran from 1990 to 1996. So, some things from the mid 90s may have also been in the early and late 90's too.


Most of these publications "take us down memory lane" with movies, fads and promotional images for TV shows from the time when they were popular or brand new.

As a side note, I must say that The Simpsons,Baywatch and The Fresh Prince of Bel Air never should have been on for that long.

I take it the mid 80s (1984-1987) are what you mean when you bring up the 80s.
Of course, the mid 90s (1993-1996) always comes to minds of many Americans whenever they think of the 90s.


Like all early 90s years, 1992 was one half 80s and the other half 90s. It wasn't one decade over the other.


when someone mentions to me about the 90s, they dont just talk about the mid 90s, they mention the whole decade.

when someone mentions to me about the 90s, they dont just talk about the mid 90s, they mention the whole decade.


Well then, how can 1992 "be more 90s" if you already see it as a 90s year?

Well then, how can 1992 "be more 90s" if you already see it as a 90s year?


they are all 90s years but im talking about what culture it had.

they are all 90s years but im talking about what culture it had.


To you, 1992 is a 90s year, so why don't you believe it mainly had 90s culture?  ::)

To you, 1992 is a 90s year, so why don't you believe it had 90s culture?  ::)


i made the 1992 thread to find out that since im a bit confused about the year itself.

i made the 1992 thread to find out that sense im a bit confused about the year itself.


That's understandable. 1992 was the last year when we wore the same clothes, watched the same movie characters (Michael Keaton as Batman), listened to the same artists, and looked at the same TV shows (The Young Riders & Anything But Love) as we did in 1989.

1992 also completely paved the way for the mid 1990s.

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If they talk about the mid 90s so much, then why is Baywatch, Seinfield and Titanic on the magazine?


probably they were part of pop culture.

1992 was still an early 90s year but it began looking more like a Clinton year in July or so. People were wearing flannel prior to fall of 1992, but it wasn't paired with a Nirvana shirt. Think of 1992 as the new 1989, it gave you an idea of what was to come in the next three years. Take Disney's Aladdin, for example. It was a fairy tale like The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, both HW Bush era films. Disney's Aladdin was also the first Disney Renaissance film to be set in an actual continent like The Lion King and Pocahontas . As you can see from the sequels and TV series, Disney's Aladdin was very important to children during Clinton's first term (1993-1996).

In my honest opinion, 1993 was the first full year to be purely '90s.


Never would have thought of 1992 as the new 1989, tell me what similarities there are between both years ?

Never would have thought of 1992 as the new 1989, tell me what similarities there are between both years ?


I would say the style of clothes changed.

That's understandable. 1992 was the last year when we wore the same clothes, watched the same movie characters (Michael Keaton as Batman), listened to the same artists, and looked at the same TV shows (The Young Riders & Anything But Love) as we did in 1989.

1992 also completely paved the way for the mid 1990s.


Interesting.. if 1992 paved the way for the mid 90s, what paved the way for a year like '92?

Never would have thought of 1992 as the new 1989, tell me what similarities there are between both years ?


For starters, all of the new pop culture introduced in the years 1990 and 1991 found more of a following in 1992. In 1989, the same thing happened with the new pop culture of 1987 and 1988.

As Howard mentioned already, the style of clothing changed in July of 1992. People of all races, creeds and nationalities were starting to wear vertical striped short sleeve hoodies, African American college sweaters, plaid sweaters and hoodie vests. In the summer of 1989, men were starting to wear workout pants, pin striped pink sweaters and those shirts with the smiley face shot in the head.

The new music of 1992 stayed on the Billboard charts for most of 1993. The new artists of 1992 all had sophomore albums released within the 1993-1996 period.

The TV shows that aired on the major networks in 1992 were the hottest shows of the mid 1990s.

For starters, all of the new pop culture introduced in the years 1990 and 1991 found more of a following in 1992. In 1989, the same thing happened with the new pop culture of 1987 and 1988.

As Howard mentioned already, the style of clothing changed in July of 1992. People of all races, creeds and nationalities were starting to wear vertical striped short sleeve hoodies, African American college sweaters, plaid sweaters and hoodie vests. In the summer of 1989, men were starting to wear workout pants, pin striped pink sweaters and those shirts with the smiley face shot in the head.

The new music of 1992 stayed on the Billboard charts for most of 1993. The new artists of 1992 all had sophomore albums released within the 1993-1996 period.

The TV shows that aired on the major networks in 1992 were the hottest shows of the mid 1990s.


I saw a website on the 80s by a guy who loved the 80s. He even had a section on the website dedicated to the early 90s (1990-1992), and he said the exact same thing as you are saying now, "the 80s died half-way through 1992."

I think he may have meant the fashion, not sure because it was such a long time ago.

Interesting.. if 1992 paved the way for the mid 90s, what paved the way for a year like '92?


Good question!
I'm going to have to get back to you on that one.

Interesting.. if 1992 paved the way for the mid 90s, what paved the way for a year like '92?


Do you mean the year that paved the way for 1992?

The TV shows that aired on the major networks in 1992 were the hottest shows of the mid 1990s.

Like Seinfeld and Friends.

Do you mean the year that paved the way for 1992?


1989?

Like Seinfeld and Friends.


No, I was thinking more along the lines of Melrose Place and Mad About You.

Do you mean the year that paved the way for 1992?

yes

1989?

Do you mean the year that paved the way for 1992?
There were still years in between?

There were still years in between?


Were you asleep in 1990 and 1991, for two years?  :D

Were you asleep in 1990 and 1991, for two years?  :D
You could say that, I finished working on a nightshift about then to be permanent days.

No, I was thinking more along the lines of Melrose Place and Mad About You.


I think people know more about Seinfeld and Friends more than Melrose Place and Mad About You.

yes


1990.

I think people know more about Seinfeld and Friends more than Melrose Place and Mad About You.


The pilots to Seinfeld and Friends did not air in the fall of 1992.

1990.

makes sense considering that it was the beginning of the 90s.

makes sense considering that it was the beginning of the 90s.


I would say 1991 was the year that paved the way for 1992.

I would say 1991 was the year that paved the way for 1992.

Always thought 1991 paved the way for 1993.

Always thought 1991 paved the way for 1993.


The start of 1992 was nothing other than a reaction to 1991.

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The rest of '92 was just the aftermath to the earliest seasons of 1992.

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You could say that, I finished working on a nightshift about then to be permanent days.


Sounds like it takes lots of energy.

1989?


You could definitely argue that 1989 was the blueprint for the years 1990, 1991 and 1992.

You could definitely argue that 1989 was the blueprint for the years 1990, 1991 and 1992.

what do you mean by blueprint?

1989?

You could definitely argue that 1989 was the blueprint for the years 1990, 1991 and 1992.

what do you mean by blueprint?
1989 was too busy closing the curtains of the 1980's.

1989 was too busy closing the curtains of the 1980's.

i kind of understand what you mean but would you say 1992 had a late 80s vibe to it since the year itself was close the 80s ?

1989 was too busy closing the curtains of the 1980's.


The summer of 1993 officially closed the curtains of the 1980s.

i kind of understand what you mean but would you say 1992 had a late 80s vibe to it since the year itself was close the 80s ?


There weren't any early 90s years that had a late 80s vibe to them. The spring of 1990 was still, technically, a part of the late 80s.

what do you mean by blueprint?


1989 was a model for 1990,1991 and 1992. In the spring of those years, a finale to a show that made its debut in the mid 1980s aired on TV (In '89, it was Miami Vice). Each summer of the early 90s had an action film based on a titular comic book (or strip) hero (Tim Burton's Batman from'89 was the ringleader). During the fall of those three years, a sitcom centering around a large family would premiere (A la "Family Matters" in '89).

1989 was too busy closing the curtains of the 1980's.


1989 was the last remaining year of good music.

1989 was the last remaining year of good music.


My parents(born in 1959 and 1965) think the same too!! :D

1989 was the last remaining year of good music.


The 80s are the last greatest decade for music. The early 90s (1990,1991 and '92) had some great selections as well. Unfortunately, the stupid mid (1993-1996) and late 90s (1996-1999) had to happen.  >:(

For that reason, the 90s will never have the title held by the 1980s.

The 80s are the last greatest decade for music. The early 90s (1990,1991 and '92) had some great selections as well. Unfortunately, the stupid mid (1993-1996) and late 90s (1996-1999) had to happen.  >:(

For that reason, the 90s will never have the title held by the 1980s.


The early 2000s had great music aswell.

There weren't any early 90s years that had a late 80s vibe to them. The spring of 1990 was still, technically, a part of the late 80s.


so what vibe did 1992 have then?

The early 2000s had great music aswell.


I highly disagree.

I disagree.


1999-2002 was still kinda cool. Late 2002-2007 was boring.

so what vibe did 1992 have then?


Early 90s vibe. :)

1999-2002 was still kinda cool. Late 2002-2007 was boring.


So you like N'SYNC and the Backstreet Boys?  8-P

Next thing you know someone will be saying 2011-2015 was still kind of cool.  ???

Some hits weren't too bad. I liked songs like "ATC-Around the World", "Lady", "The bad touch (Bloodhound Gang)", "Breathless", "The spirit of the Hawk (Rednex)", "Whenever, Wherever"...

Next thing you know someone will be saying 2011-2015 was still kind of cool.

You got me. I am still not a fan of 2014, though. Hadn't too many memorable hits.

Some hits weren't too bad. I liked songs like "ATC-Around the World", "Lady", "The bad touch (Bloodhound Gang)", "Breathless", "The spirit of the Hawk (Rednex)", "Whenever, Wherever"...


Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion.


Yes, there were worse songs.

I prefer the 80s and earlier, though. Really good music ended in the early 90s IMO.

Listening to "Another Day in Paradise" by Phil Collins at the moment...

I prefer the 80s and earlier, though. Really good music ended in the early 90s IMO.



Really good music ended in 1993. 

Really good music ended in 1993.


1994

1994


Answers will vary by age.

Really good music ended in 1977 or 1978. Unable to tolerate much after that.

Yes, there were worse songs.

I prefer the 80s and earlier, though. Really good music ended in the early 90s IMO.

Listening to "Another Day in Paradise" by Phil Collins at the moment...


"Another Day in Paradise" was actually sitting at #1 in the U.S. when the '90s hit :)

"Another Day in Paradise" was actually sitting at #1 in the U.S. when the '90s hit :)


ALF, Mama's Family and It's Garry Shandling's Show were all on the air at the time. I wouldn't call the start of 1990 "90s" exactly. It was still the late 80s.

I prefer the 80s and earlier, though. Really good music ended in the early 90s IMO.

I too also prefer the 80's and earlier.

ALF, Mama's Family and It's Garry Shandling's Show were all on the air at the time. I wouldn't call the start of 1990 "90s" exactly. It was still the late 80s.

you were saying in a earlier post that the early 90s did`nt have any "80s" in them.

you were saying in a earlier post that the early 90s did`nt have any "80s" in them.


I'm sorry to confuse you.

The 80s were nothing more than '77/1978 becoming 1990/'91.

There's a reason why people say, "1990 was still 80s".

I think god intended for 1990 to have everything from the 1980s in it. When I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING! New episodes of Thirtysomething aired that fall and Small Wonder reruns were on FOX at that time. A lost episode of Miami Vice even. Everything was there! In that respect, 1990 was 'super 80s'.

Mid 90s pop culture was introduced in 1990/'91 also : There was a Tiny Toons episode with the name "Animaniacs" in that fall, Jurassic Park was in book stores and Mariah Carey dropped her first album.

The 2000s were right around the corner, even in 1990/'91. Young black males wore baggy pants (Girbauds, but still) for the first time, Marvel's "The Punisher" was in theaters and Pioneer GPS were in stores.

Overall, 1990/'91 was the year of Turtlemania (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were VERY important to the early 90s), Parker Lewis donned a rayon shirt (It was the New Jack Swing era) and Chucky the doll officially became known as Chucky the Killer Doll (The second movie was better than the first).

I know you think of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as an "80s leftover", but they were nobodies in the late 80s (They couldn't hold a candle to the Nintendo Entertainment System in those days). The Turtles and Bart Simpson were LARGER THAN LIFE in 1990!

Recap:

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Introduced in 1987

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Huge hit in the early 90s (True early 90s pop culture - No one will think of it that way because in this Century, almost everyone is fixated on the 1980s.)

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Home Alone 2

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My Cousin Vinny

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Encino Man

2008 strongly echoes 1992.

1992 was the last year of widespread late '80s holdovers.  Certain aspects that would come to define the '90s such as hip-hop, grunge, eurodance, and certain TV shows had exploded by then, but the '80s were still holding their own.  I could be wrong but I believe cassettes were still more common than CDs in 1992.  If not, it was close to half and half. The huge political shift that year that resulted in the election of Bill Clinton was the final nail in the '80s coffin in my opinion.  Conservatism and materialism was replaced by liberalism and individualism.

I'm sorry to confuse you.

The 80s were nothing more than '77/1978 becoming 1990/'91.

There's a reason why people say, "1990 was still 80s".

I think god intended for 1990 to have everything from the 1980s in it. When I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING! New episodes of Thirtysomething aired that fall and Small Wonder reruns were on FOX at that time. A lost episode of Miami Vice even. Everything was there! In that respect, 1990 was 'super 80s'.

Mid 90s pop culture was introduced in 1990/'91 also : There was a Tiny Toons episode with the name "Animaniacs" in that fall, Jurassic Park was in book stores and Mariah Carey dropped her first album.

The 2000s were right around the corner, even in 1990/'91. Young black males wore baggy pants (Girbauds, but still) for the first time, Marvel's "The Punisher" was in theaters and Pioneer GPS were in stores.

Overall, 1990/'91 was the year of Turtlemania (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were VERY important to the early 90s), Parker Lewis donned a rayon shirt (It was the New Jack Swing era) and Chucky the doll officially became known as Chucky the Killer Doll (The second movie was better than the first).

I know you think of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as an "80s leftover", but they were nobodies in the late 80s (They couldn't hold a candle to the Nintendo Entertainment System in those days). The Turtles and Bart Simpson were LARGER THAN LIFE in 1990!

Recap:

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Introduced in 1987

http://www.strangekidsclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Turtles-Treasury-cover.png
Huge hit in the early 90s (True early 90s pop culture - No one will think of it that way because in this Century, almost everyone is fixated on the 1980s.)


WOW, a lot of older guys I talk to say the best tmnt episodes were IN the late 80s!! They told me after the first movie came out in 1990, the series jumped the shark for them. they said it became too over top and too silly. Even AVGN and nostalgia critic said the same thing. However, they did say the series started to go back up hill in season 7, then really went back uphill when the red sky episodes started!

WOW, a lot of older guys I talk to say the best tmnt episodes were IN the late 80s!! They told me after the first movie came out in 1990, the series jumped the shark for them. they said it became too over top and too silly. Even AVGN and nostalgia critic said the same thing. However, they did say the series started to go back up hill in season 7, then really went back uphill when the red sky episodes started!


Everything is better at the start. That's a known fact. Turtlemania was still in full swing in 1990, not the late 80s. I know this because I was reading the Mirage comic books back then. Yes, I saw the movie when it was playing at my local theater back in 1990!!! My cousin got a free Turtle plush after we purchased the tickets! I gave my Raphael one to him also.

Those episodes they speak of were silly because they became CBS Saturday morning cartoon characters (we were getting closer to 1993 - The Turtles weren't important to the mid 90s  :\'() after Turtlemania of 1990. In other words, the Turtles finally arrived!!! Unfortunately, CBS did not want the series to be 100% 30 minute toy commercial. Plus, soccer moms were complaining during Turtlemania of '90 about their stupid sons imitating the Turtles and hitting each other with broomsticks thinking they were Donatello. People seriously got injured back then doing stuff like that. Yes, I remember 1990 like it was yesterday.

2008 strongly echoes 1992.

1992 was the last year of widespread late '80s holdovers.  Certain aspects that would come to define the '90s such as hip-hop, grunge, eurodance, and certain TV shows had exploded by then, but the '80s were still holding their own.  I could be wrong but I believe cassettes were still more common than CDs in 1992.  If not, it was close to half and half. The huge political shift that year that resulted in the election of Bill Clinton was the final nail in the '80s coffin in my opinion.  Conservatism and materialism was replaced by liberalism and individualism.


THE 80s WERE ALL ABOUT GETTING TO 1990! NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.  EVERYTHING FROM THE 80s WAS IN 1990 FOR THAT REASON! NOTICE HOW MTV STILL STOOD FOR MUSIC TELEVISION ONLY IN ALL OF 1990 AND THE START OF 1991. LET'S SAY "THE 80S DECADE" NEVER HAPPENED, YOU COULD LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM JUST BY STAYING IN 1990. OUR IDEALS WERE THE SAME, SLANG NEVER CHANGED AND THERE WERE STILL YUPPIES WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR BRICK CELL PHONES! THE WINTER AND SPRING SEASONS OF 1991 ARE THOUGHT OF AS 80S TODAY BECAUSE 1990 HAD JUST ENDED. ONCE THE LATTER PART OF 1991 AND ALL OF 1992 CAME AROUND, IT BEGAN LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE 1993. EVERYTHING INTRODUCED IN THE EARLY 90s (1990-Start of 1993) WAS IN 1993! THE EARLY 90S ARE THOUGHT OF AS THE 80s ON STEROIDS FOR THE MOST PART BECAUSE '91 AND '92 WEREN'T TOO FAR AWAY FROM 1990 LIKE 1993 WAS. LATE 1992 WAS MOST LIKE THE START OF 1993, BUT IT'S STILL PART OF THE EARLY 90S. BUSH 1 WAS PRESIDENT, GUYS COULD STILL WEAR NEON PINK WITHOUT BEING LABELLED AS GAY AND THE NEW DISNEY PRINCESS MOVIE (ALADDIN) WAS MOST LIKE THE LITTLE MERMAID (A FLICK THAT WAS STILL IN THEATERS AT THE START OF 1990  ;)).

I'm sorry about the tone but I get tired of people talking about the 80s like they had an identity all to themselves.  >:( The 80s were one LONG transitional time, that's it. When you ignore the existence of 1978 and 1990, the 80s decade is still one of great change. The 80s are nothing more than 1978 becoming 1990!!! So those "late 80s holdovers" ::) are nothing more than early 90s pop culture icons because we didn't really know of them in the late 80s like we did in the early 90s. Look at who's on a TV Guide cover from 1991 sometime, you'll understand where I'm coming from. Ask Matt Groening which year he'd love to go back to. Spoiler alert, he's not going to say 1987. The answer will most definitely be 1990!!!  I'm guessing that Ren and Stimpy and Beavis and Butthead were "early 90s holdovers" to you. :o

I'm sure you were old enough to know how important Beavis and Butthead were to the 1993-1996 era. They were nobodies in late 1992, but they blew up in 1993 like Bart Simpson  did overnight in 1990.

EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON. THE LORD'S WORK IS IN EVERYTHING.

THE 80s WERE ALL ABOUT GETTING TO 1990! NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.  EVERYTHING FROM THE 80s WAS IN 1990 FOR THAT REASON! NOTICE HOW MTV STILL STOOD FOR MUSIC TELEVISION ONLY IN ALL OF 1990 AND THE START OF 1991. LET'S SAY "THE 80S DECADE" NEVER HAPPENED, YOU COULD LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM JUST BY STAYING IN 1990. OUR IDEALS WERE THE SAME, SLANG NEVER CHANGED AND THERE WERE STILL YUPPIES WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR BRICK CELL PHONES! THE WINTER AND SPRING SEASONS OF 1991 ARE THOUGHT OF AS 80S TODAY BECAUSE 1990 HAD JUST ENDED. ONCE THE LATTER PART OF 1991 AND ALL OF 1992 CAME AROUND, IT BEGAN LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE 1993. EVERYTHING INTRODUCED IN THE EARLY 90s (1990-Start of 1993) WAS IN 1993! THE EARLY 90S ARE THOUGHT OF AS THE 80s ON STEROIDS FOR THE MOST PART BECAUSE '91 AND '92 WEREN'T TOO FAR AWAY FROM 1990 LIKE 1993 WAS. LATE 1992 WAS MOST LIKE THE START OF 1993, BUT IT'S STILL PART OF THE EARLY 90S. BUSH 1 WAS PRESIDENT, GUYS COULD STILL WEAR NEON PINK WITHOUT BEING LABELLED AS GAY AND THE NEW DISNEY PRINCESS MOVIE (ALADDIN) WAS MOST LIKE THE LITTLE MERMAID (A FLICK THAT WAS STILL IN THEATERS AT THE START OF 1990  ;)).

I'm sorry about the tone but I get tired of people talking about the 80s like they had an identity all to themselves.  >:( The 80s were one LONG transitional time, that's it. When you ignore the existence of 1978 and 1990, the 80s decade is still one of great change. The 80s are nothing more than 1978 becoming 1990!!! So those "late 80s holdovers" ::) are nothing more than early 90s pop culture icons because we didn't really know of them in the late 80s like we did in the early 90s. Look at who's on a TV Guide cover from 1991 sometime, you'll understand where I'm coming from. Ask Matt Groening which year he'd love to go back to. Spoiler alert, he's not going to say 1987. The answer will most definitely be 1990!!!  I'm guessing that Ren and Stimpy and Beavis and Butthead were "early 90s holdovers" to you. :o

I'm sure you were old enough to know how important Beavis and Butthead were to the 1993-1996 era. They were nobodies in late 1992, but they blew up in 1993 like Bart Simpson  did overnight in 1990.

EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON. THE LORD'S WORK IS IN EVERYTHING.


Of course 1990 is going to have everything from the 80s (late 80s mainly) as it was the first year of the 90s and since 1991 and 1992 were close to 1990 you cant expect things to be alot different back then.

Of course 1990 is going to have everything from the 80s (late 80s mainly) as it was the first year of the 90s and since 1991 and 1992 were close to 1990 you cant expect things to be alot different back then.


That's not what I meant.

You're looking at 1990 all wrong!

You're talking about 1990 like its nothing but "the first year of a new decade". You would disappointed with '90 if you were expecting something completely new to pop off in that year.

I'm telling you the 80s were puzzle pieces and when put together they make up the larger picture (1990).

The 80s do not stand on their own as a decade. The 80s decade wasn't about anything all on its own. They did not have a beginning and an end. I'm telling you the 80s were nothing more than 1978 becoming 1990. The actual 80s decade LEAD to 1990!!! Nothing more, nothing less.

What happened between 1990 and 1999 wasn't as important as those two years I just mentioned. The same can be said for "the 80s decade".

By the looks of it, VH1's "I Love the 80s" series has destroyed society.

There really isn't an "80s decade", 1980-1989 was nothing more than one large transitional time period. It didn't end in 1989, 1990 WAS the finish spot on the game board.

Why do you think the Fresh Prince of Bel Air premiered in the fall of 1990 and not in the 80s? ;)
Will Smith was still The Fresh Prince, but he was acting (like he would be doing from 1999 to NOW) for the first time in that year.

That's not what I meant.

You're looking at 1990 all wrong!

You're talking about 1990 like its nothing but "the first year of a new decade". You would disappointed with '90 if you were expecting something completely new to pop off in that year.

I'm telling you the 80s were puzzle pieces and when put together they make up the larger picture (1990).

The 80s do not stand on their own as a decade. The 80s decade wasn't about anything all on its own. They did not have a beginning and an end. I'm telling you the 80s were nothing more than 1978 becoming 1990. The actual 80s decade LEAD to 1990!!! Nothing more, nothing less.

What happened between 1990 and 1999 wasn't as important as those two years I just mentioned. The same can be said for "the 80s decade".

By the looks of it, VH1's "I Love the 80s" series has destroyed society.

There really isn't an "80s decade", 1980-1989 was nothing more than one large transitional time period. It didn't end in 1989, 1990 WAS the finish spot on the game board.

Why do you think the Fresh Prince of Bel Air premiered in the fall of 1990 and not in the 80s? ;)
Will Smith was still The Fresh Prince, but he was acting (like he would be doing from 1999 to NOW) for the first time in that year.


Very interesting.

I don't completely agree though about the end game and I also don't believe 1990 was the finish spot on the game board.  The end of the 80s were marked by two events, the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the election of Bill Clinton in 1992.

That's not what I meant.

You're looking at 1990 all wrong!

You're talking about 1990 like its nothing but "the first year of a new decade". You would disappointed with '90 if you were expecting something completely new to pop off in that year.

I'm telling you the 80s were puzzle pieces and when put together they make up the larger picture (1990).

The 80s do not stand on their own as a decade. The 80s decade wasn't about anything all on its own. They did not have a beginning and an end. I'm telling you the 80s were nothing more than 1978 becoming 1990. The actual 80s decade LEAD to 1990!!! Nothing more, nothing less.

What happened between 1990 and 1999 wasn't as important as those two years I just mentioned. The same can be said for "the 80s decade".

By the looks of it, VH1's "I Love the 80s" series has destroyed society.

There really isn't an "80s decade", 1980-1989 was nothing more than one large transitional time period. It didn't end in 1989, 1990 WAS the finish spot on the game board.

Why do you think the Fresh Prince of Bel Air premiered in the fall of 1990 and not in the 80s? ;)
Will Smith was still The Fresh Prince, but he was acting (like he would be doing from 1999 to NOW) for the first time in that year.


everyone is entitled to there own opinions

everyone is entitled to there own opinions


You'll never understand what the early 90s truly were by looking at 1990 like that.

I'm sorry about the tone but I get tired of people talking about the 80s like they had an identity all to themselves.  >:( The 80s were one LONG transitional time, that's it. When you ignore the existence of 1978 and 1990, the 80s decade is still one of great change.


We are always in transition.  I don't disagree with you but you could say the same thing about the 1990s.  They were a long transitional time to get us from 1990 to 2000.  It wouldn't be wrong to look at them that way especially as many cultural changes as there were throughout the '90s (far more than the 1980s). 

Very interesting.

I don't completely agree though about the end game and I also don't believe 1990 was the finish spot on the game board.  The end of the 80s were marked by two events, the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the election of Bill Clinton in 1992.


Both of those events really lead to 1993. '93 was the year when most of America officially moved on from early 90s pop culture to mid 90s pop culture. For that reason alone, 1993 could be thought of the first real year of the 90s. Everyone had the idea of what the 90s were in 1993. They were a time of boring edgy movies (Alive), extreme sports (look at the 1993 movie Airborne), flannel and the return of soulful R&B singers.

We are always in transition.  I don't disagree with you but you could say the same thing about the 1990s.  They were a long transitional time to get us from 1990 to 2000.  It wouldn't be wrong to look at them that way especially as many cultural changes as there were throughout the '90s (far more than the 1980s).


True, but I'd say the 90s were one long transitional time to get us from 1990 to 1999. Just about everything that was popular in the the 2000s (Spongebob, Family Guy and Britney Spears) decade was in the year 1999 alone. 1990 was officially old by 1999. Young people in 1999 wouldn't be able to fan thin why the teens of 1990 were listening to Brother Beyond, wearing EYE BLINDING NEON (completely different from that of the 1960s) and looking at cheesy horror movie monsters like Maniac Cop (the sequel hit in 1990).

1990 was officially old by 1999.


Yes, and that's the reason why mid 80s borns and early 90s borns usually think differently about the 90s.

Yes, and that's the reason why mid 80s borns and early 90s borns usually think differently about the 90s.


I agree.  I cringe when I see a YouTube video about the '90s that was obviously done by somebody born around 1993 and celebrates early 2000s culture as if it was the '90s.

Yes, and that's the reason why mid 80s borns and early 90s borns usually think differently about the 90s.



I agree.  I cringe when I see a YouTube video about the '90s that was obviously done by somebody born around 1993 and celebrates early 2000s culture as if it was the '90s.
Not all early 90s babies do that. I'm sure they can remember 90s pop culture without it spilling into the 00s. In fact, they most likely remember 2/3 of the decade. I would mostly see someone born in the late 90s putting 00s trends as 90s.

Not all early 90s babies do that. I'm sure they can remember 90s pop culture without it spilling into the 00s. In fact, they most likely remember 2/3 of the decade.


Yes, that's true, because you are actually interested in that decade and in remembering stuff. A lot of people, even the ones my age, also tend to ignore memories from being 4-8 and concentrate on 8-13. If early 90ers do that, they will probably associate the 90s more with the 98-01 era... 

Yes, that's true, because you are actually interested in that decade and in remembering stuff. A lot of people, even the ones my age, also tend to ignore memories from being 4-8 and concentrate on 8-13. If early 90ers do that, they will probably associate the 90s more with the 98-01 era...
Oh. I understand clearly. I can now see why some people think that. If more would talk about their entire childhood and not just the 8-13 period, then their memories would be more 90s than 00s.

You'll never understand what the early 90s truly were by looking at 1990 like that.

you were the one that said in a earlier post that 1990 set up the early 90s, read your earlier posts.

Both of those events really lead to 1993. '93 was the year when most of America officially moved on from early 90s pop culture to mid 90s pop culture. For that reason alone, 1993 could be thought of the first real year of the 90s. Everyone had the idea of what the 90s were in 1993. They were a time of boring edgy movies (Alive), extreme sports (look at the 1993 movie Airborne), flannel and the return of soulful R&B singers.

This is very true

you were the one that said in a earlier post that 1990 set up the early 90s, read your earlier posts.


I'm very sorry about that. I was thinking of shows like "In Living Color" (new episodes aired in 1993/ Jim Carey, Jamie Foxx and J.LO were big time celebrities in 1999), Tiny Toons (the videos were in stores in 1993/ Wendy's had kids meal toys in 1999) and the Power Drenched/Super Soaker 50 (Cory Matthews held one of these in a 1993 episode of "Boy Meets World"/The most powerful Super Soaker ever - The CPS 2700 Constant Pressure System was sold in 1999).

"The 80s decade" formed 1990.
The middle part and fall to winter of 1990 can be thought of as a part of the 90s because the 90s were all about putting together 1999. Other people think of 1991-1999 as 90s years because '91-'99 seem more like one great big reaction to the events of 1990. Take the Turtlemania of 1990 for example. The first film is the highest grossing independent comic book movie ever made. Once the Turtles became very popular in the summer of 1990, more people started inventing independent comic book heroes like Spawn and The Men In Black. If Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman never invented the Turtles, there could never be rip-offs like Disney's Gargoyles, Street Sharks and Biker Mice From Mars (they returned in the 00s - The 90s were all about getting to 1999. So, some of the new cartoon characters of the 90s seeped into the 2000s). None of the new independent comic book characters and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles rip-offs were ever as successful as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. What does that tell you?  ;)
The Spawn toyline lasted well into the 2000s (I'm a comic book junkie), though.

However, they did say the series started to go back up hill in season 7, then really went back uphill when the red sky episodes started!


Do you like the Red Sky episodes, yourself?

Seasons 4,5 and 6 weren't as strong as the first three seasons because Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman thought the cartoon was the driving force of the franchise. So naturally, the first animated incarnations of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles became caricatures of themselves and defeated the villains without the use of the weapons more and more.

After the 7th season got low ratings, Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman finally came to the conclusion that the 1990 movie is why so many people became fans of the Turtles. The show stayed on for a few more years (emphasis on the word 'few') after that, but it was too late. The Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers were all of the rage by then. The Turtles were NEVER popular like they were in 1990 ever again. Even today, most Baby Boomers think of the Turtles as "so 1990". The 90s decade was all about pulling away from 1990.

Even AVGN and nostalgia critic said the same thing.


Nostalgia Critic used to tickle my funny bone, but he sounds ignorant most of the time also.

He asked why all the kids of Saved By the Bell were still wearing 80s clothing when they were in the 90s. Doug must have been a youngster in the years 1990,1991 and 1992 because THAT WAS THE DUMBEST COMMENT NOSTALGIA CRITIC EVER MADE! I stopped watching his videos after that. No one knew what "90s clothing" was in 1990. We wore what was recent at the time (biker shorts, Z. Cavaricci, trenchcoats, real neon and tank tops) because we didn't know any better!

I bet the Nostalgia Critic is one of those people who thinks there is an "80s decade", "90s decade" and so on. :o No "decade" (I hate that word, it's so very stupid) has an identity, they are just filler for the most part. As bchris02 puts it, "We are always in transition."

Nostalgia Critic used to tickle my funny bone, but he sounds ignorant most of the time also.

He asked why all the kids of Saved By the Bell were still wearing 80s clothing when they were in the 90s. Doug must have been a youngster in the years 1990,1991 and 1992 because THAT WAS THE DUMBEST COMMENT NOSTALGIA CRITIC EVER MADE! I stopped watching his videos after that. No one knew what "90s clothing" was in 1990. We wore what was recent at the time (biker shorts, Z. Cavaricci, trenchcoats, real neon and tank tops) because we didn't know any better!

I bet the Nostalgia Critic is one of those people who thinks there is an "80s decade", "90s decade" and so on. :o No "decade" (I hate that word, it's so very stupid) has an identity, they are just filler for the most part. As bchris02 puts it, "We are always in transition."


Yea AVGN(James) and Doug(Nostalgia Critic) are about the same age 33/34 ish. They were about 9-12 during the early 90s years.

Do you like the Red Sky episodes, yourself?

Seasons 4,5 and 6 weren't as strong as the first three seasons because Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman thought the cartoon was the driving force of the franchise. So naturally, the first animated incarnations of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles became caricatures of themselves and defeated the villains without the use of the weapons more and more.

After the 7th season got low ratings, Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman finally came to the conclusion that the 1990 movie is why so many people became fans of the Turtles. The show stayed on for a few more years (emphasis on the word 'few') after that, but it was too late. The Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers were all of the rage by then. The Turtles were NEVER popular like they were in 1990 ever again. Even today, most Baby Boomers think of the Turtles as "so 1990". The 90s decade was all about pulling away from 1990.


The 2003 series introduced me to the turtles! I was a big fan of it when it was on fox kids/fox box! I didn't discover the 87 series until 2006! When I first saw the red sky episodes yeah back then I liked them. But I haven't seen the original 87 series in years!!

The 2003 series introduced me to the turtles! I was a big fan of it when it was on fox kids/fox box! I didn't discover the 87 series until 2006! When I first saw the red sky episodes yeah back then I liked them. But I haven't seen the original 87 series in years!!


Good thing you said the first ever cartoon was the '87 series. I cringe whenever someone calls the original series "80s". The first animated Turtles came out in December of 1987. How in the hell could it possibly be "80s"? December of 1987 was TOO close to 1990. The cartoon spent most of its duration in "the 1990s decade".

Good thing you said the first ever cartoon was the '87 series. I cringe whenever someone calls the original series "80s". The first animated Turtles came out in December of 1987. How in the hell could it possibly be "80s"? December of 1987 was TOO close to 1990. The cartoon spent most of its duration in "the 1990s decade".


Yes, the final three seasons are very '90s in tone (even Season 7 is sort of on the fence between '80s/'90s feeling), but I've read of fans tuning out of the show in Season 5 (Fall 1991) due to a decline in action and the point where the show got too goofy, and this especially came true for Season 6, when Batman: The Animated Series began (which feels mid-90s to me despite beginning in '92, since this eventually lead to the New Batman Adventues in 1997 and Batman: Beyond in 1999, with other mid-90s shows like X-Men and Spider-Man becoming hits due to B:TAS's success.

If TMNT just went 65 episodes like many shows did, it would have been an '80s series in its entirety, and CBS could have elected to have a live-action series following the success of the movie since the movie changed the way fans thought of the franchise, and when they went back to the cartoon, they increasingly saw it as "for little kids", with CBS neutring down making it worse. If anything, DuckTales (which premeired in September 1987) is a show I see more commonly thought of as '90s due to it airing on The Disney Afternoon block into 1992 and airing on The Disney Channel/Toon Disney later that decade. Many TMNT fans when they think of a '90s series for that franchise pick The Next Mutation since its a natural progression of the movies and basically sum up the '90s Live Action universe, even if there are some fans who don't belive of its progression. Sesame Steet also introduced a new Calypso-theme that year which lasted until 1998. Even though Clinton wasn't yet in office, his campaign was in full swing. Johnny Carson leaving the Tonight Show is another sign of the Baby Boom generation of pop culture yielding to Gen X. Even for the show Growing Pains, the final season with the Rockapella theme (think Carmen Sandiego) senses that the '80s were a memory then. The mood was to change away from the 1990-91 recession and sow the seeds for the big economic boom of the mid-late '90s, and many creative ideas came about in 1992.

Yes, the final three seasons are very '90s in tone (even Season 7 is sort of on the fence between '80s/'90s feeling), but I've read of fans tuning out of the show in Season 5 (Fall 1991) due to a decline in action and the point where the show got too goofy, and this especially came true for Season 6, when Batman: The Animated Series began (which feels mid-90s to me despite beginning in '92, since this eventually lead to the New Batman Adventues in 1997 and Batman: Beyond in 1999, with other mid-90s shows like X-Men and Spider-Man becoming hits due to B:TAS's success.


Turtlemania of '90 was the best and worst thing to happen to the franchise. I've noticed that most TV shows jump the shark after 3 seasons. There were still some unforgettable episodes of Season 4, but they were few and far in between.The toyline stopped making sense after 1990 also. The Turtles cannot be ninjas and hockey players! I guess the creators got really greedy after the Turtles were the number best selling toy for the Christmas of 1990.

Johnny Carson leaving the Tonight Show is another sign of the Baby Boom generation of pop culture yielding to Gen X. Even for the show Growing Pains, the final season with the Rockapella theme (think Carmen Sandiego) senses that the '80s were a memory then. The mood was to change away from the 1990-91 recession and sow the seeds for the big economic boom of the mid-late '90s, and many creative ideas came about in 1992.

True, as we were leaving 1990 , more pop culture icons of 1999 were showing up in each and every year. '92 was my last favorite year because it was the last time when you could where the same clothes you wore in 1990 an not be laughed at.